OSU everyone should learn the strogest karate you should follow my advice i train kyokushin i tell you no one will want to mess with you no metter what.
@TheFighterman15 It doesn't matter the style it depends on the individual there is no strong karate all karate styles are strong like I said it depends on the individual.
To everybody who thinks their style is better than the others. I'm just gonna say it's not the style but the person behind it. It's how well you apply the moves & how much you push yourself.
every one who´s practicing knock down karate is part of the worlds greatest family. shin-kyokushin,seidokan,ashihara,oyama ryu,shindokan it doesn´t matter. we are all brothers of the greatest martial art ever to exist.thanx to oyama sosai for giving this great legacy to us.OSU!!!
(Kimi ha) nan nen ni Kyokushin no renshu o shimasuka? (Kimi ha) Yudansha ka Mudansha desuka? Doko de Kyokushin no renshu o shimasuka? Boku ha Okinawa ken de Kyokushin no karate no renshu o shimashita. (Kimi no) Nihongo ga josu desuka? Osu
Good luck with your Japanese. I train in the Japanese Martial Arts in Japan. My Youtube channel is about the Japanese Martial Arts and Japanese language and culture as it applies to the Martial Arts. I have a series were I go to Japanese Martial Arts schools in Chugoku Chiho Japan. What rank are you in Kyokushin now? Osu
@SkyCutterFan17 - they don't punch to the face ONLY in competiton because it's FULL CONTACT BARE KNUCKLE tournaments - not faggy ass shotokan tournaments. If you're a shotokan practitioner - try sparring with a kyokushin fighter - you'd get killed!!!!
@SkyCutterFan17 - hey dickhole - this is what you said "Shotokan has elusive footwork unlike Kyokushin very forward Shotokan is in and out Attacks Kyokushin lack punching in the face." I explained the lack of punching to the face (tournament only) - and shit-okan elusive footwork??? Only a pussy faggot that NEVER fought full contact - would say something as asnine as that.
@gomergilligan I could see that your very ignorant little kid but you should never disrespect any style like I said it all comes down to the individual just because its full-contact doesn't make any other style useless eveything has a strength and weakness.
@SkyCutterFan17 - yep - you should've said that in the first place instead of dissing Kyokushin and elevating shit -okan. You're right - it is the individual - but honestly - the ONLY people shit-okan fighters beat - are OTHER shit-okan fighters.
@gomergilligan Little boy I wasn't disrespecting Kyokushin I was just giving facts about it Shotokan can beat anybody as well as Kyokushin it all comes down to the individual.
@gomergilligan Due in shotokan your bones get harder. You really don't get tthat overconfidence can be a bad thing. No style is superior to another. Like me personally I'm not really into boxing but just because I know shotokan doesn't necessarily mean that I can beat any pro boxer.
The stupidity of thinking that kyokushin is 90% "taking a shot" is unbelievable, kyokushin fighters like the ones in the clip are very skilled karatekas not just guys who can take a shot. Admittedly it is a big part of kyokushin but there is also an awful lot of skill involved
@Scobehunter666 Im sure they didnt mean it doesnt require skill, its just that the fighters are CLEARLY taking hits and have to be very, very conditioned for it. Because, as demonstrated, koykushin is a power MA.
@shibukisama Go back its never too late, gives you strong mind and confidence, you lucky bastard I wish I could but have an injury, so consider youreself lucky to be able to continue doin this.
these white boys cant even say the name of the style correctly. its Kyokushin NOT Kiyo kushin. If you are gonna put a show about a certain martial art on TV learn how to properly pronounce it you idiots.
to make it simple.. karate and taekwondo are the same. Just tat one is taught in japanese and another is in korean. both have kicks, both have punches. Haha.. And i dun believe in any martial art is superior in another. Anyway i am a taekwondo practioner for 15yrs.. I also take some karate move as my sparring consideration :D so to me both martial art rocks!
I didn't even say in my comment that TKD was better than kyokushin so don't tell lies and don't call me a punk ass faggot cos I don't even know me and why did u put in brackets it's a joke obviously u have no respect for any other martial art than your own making u ignorant and small minded. There is no superior art, style, method, system or technique only superior practitioners
@bluestingerborg Maybe because Kyokushin was founded by a Korean.
His Japanese name is quite famous (Mas Oyama). His Korean name is not so famous(Choi Bae Dael)
Choi lived in Japan at a time when Japan was a military powerhouse. And being a Korean living in Japan, racism and segregation was as common as udon noodles. Choi fought many Japanese and beat them all. They even stabbed him to get rid of him. Put him in jail and he punched stone walls to train. He sparred with 1500 pound bulls.
@bluestingerborg No, he was not Japanese. He was a full blooded Korean. However, if it were not for the trials he faced in Japan. Choi bae dal may not have been able to fight one hundred men continuously in Kumite or may have not tapped into the super human. Whether he could have or not? That's irrelevant and it's history. Nevertheless we cannot discredit Japan for the success of (Zainichi Chōsenjin) or Koreans living in Japan especially in KyoKushin Karate and even Hapkido.
@shaztekk uhh he never hated being korean lol. a book that he read inspired him somehow that he was destined to be a japanese which is why he went there. talk about fail o.O~
@fightluv Not really. Kyokushin is known for it's tough training and conditioning. While most other schools (at least in my area) really don't train like we do. Alot of the people who have trained with in other styles say the same thing after they train at our school. Regardless of what anyone thinks I do respect other styles but most don't compare to Kyokushin.
Randomboi- I do respect other people's arts. But when little punk faggots like you come on here and say they TKD is better than Kyokushin(which is joke) that's when I speak my mind. So deal with it.
@fightluv From my experience TKD training doesn't really consist of tough conditioning or sparring. They'll throw some fancy kicks that don't mean shit and they usually end up falling down doing so. It's not a true fighting art like Kyokushin of Muay Thai. So when TKD practitioners come on here talking smack it makes me laugh. Watch some videos with Kyokushin vs TKD and you will see for yourself.
@Hanul91 False. Taekwondo did not exist during occupation. Shotokan was introduced to Korea during occupation and is why Taekwondo looks more like karate than taekeon etc. General Choi and other Korean masters do not deny this.
Oyama was a 13 year old child when he left Korea with no real training. 99.999% of his martial knowledge came from japanese martialarts. For koreans to take credit for kyokushin is as stupid as americans taking credit for karate because chuck norris is american. STOOPID!
False, Taekwondo did exist during occupation. The reason why Taekwondo looks like Karate is the belt system and wearing of white clothing, which is not part of Korean martial arts culture. Oyama was trained first be a Manchurian or Korean in Manchuria then he moved to Japan. For Japanese to take credit for Karate is even MORE stupid since Karate was never indigenous Japanese, it was Okinawan under influence of Chinese martial arts. ^___^
@Hanul91 There were martial arts in Korea previous to jap occupation, but hey only in part resembled modern taekwondo (I have 10 years of TKD and 20+years of Kyokushin and understand the technical differences better than most and can tell you Kyokushin and korean MA are very different. Oyama ,as a child, learned little from the unskilled farmhand in Manchuria. My Shihans were close personal friends of Sosai. Sosai himself denied any Korean influence in Kyokushin, but of course you know better.
The only Old Korean martial arts that resemble TKD is Taekyun, which was a martal arts during Korean Kingdoms era. Kyokushin is nothing more than TKD style but hardcore-ness. Korean martial arts, the old ones are known to be this hardcore.
You can accept the truth or you can live in denial. Your choice. If you wish to delude yourself that Taekwondo and Kyokushin are connected that is your business. One of my Shihans was Sosai's english translater for many years and a close personal friend of Sosai and I can tell you for a FACT there is no connection to Korea other than that is where Sosai was born. The DELUSION you cling to was created after Sosai's death because no one would dare speak these LIES while he lived.
LOL Fine believe in your lies then. Even head of Kyoskushin is a Zainchi Korean (3:02). hahahahhahha Probably you deny also that in the video, the building in background is a TYPICALLY Korean style house, UNCOMMON in Japan. So believe in that "lie" too. Japan is known to have many Korean influences, you might deny that also. ^___^
@Hanul91 I did not say taekwondo and kyokushin are not connected, OYAMA SAID THEY ARE NOT CONNECTED. You are not calling me a liar , you are calling OYAMA a liar. No one denies cultural transference and I don't care what think innovation means or for your petty racism/nationalism. I am not japanese or korean: I am a student of Kyokushin and know the history of my art. Oyama learned all his martialarts in japan. So what!! Kyokushin is above your petty racism. Are you even a kyokushin student?
Tell me where he EVER said that. Alight?? Oyama learned martial arts in Japan, but Kyokushin itself is a product because of him, not Karate. Remember that. Also to say Karate is simply Japanese is erronous since you are being Japanocentric. Karate was never Japanese until partioners from Japan "japonized" it. ^___^
@aldridge1 Actually he took small parts from Muay Thai, and even spent some time with Kempo/Kung Fu fighters,.
So, he was a Korean Descendant who considered himself Japanese who had experience with Chinese, Japanese, Ryukyuan, Thai MA's, In fact, the whole peninsula bore visits from him.
Actually, he wasn't nationality Japanese since he still had his Korean citizenship though. He did tried to hide his identity for sometime too. Also, he didn't took out any forms from Muay Thai, but he did had some Chinese Kempo influence on his early career with background of Shotokan (Okinawan). That's what I heard.
@asadal123 I said he considered himself Japanese, many ethnic Koreans in Japan do.
Only the early stuff in Kyokushin is Shotokan, the rest is Goju, and Shoto is definitely a Japanese style of Karate, rather than an Ryukyuan one.
He did have Muay influences, but these show up more in training and method than technique, with Kyokushin's emphasis on endurance and attrition. Instead of traditional Ikken Hissatsu, 1 hit kill.
not many ethnic Zainichis considered themselves as "Japanese", they faced many discrimination, and of course Oyama did. The rest is not Goju or Shoto, but more Shotokan. He definitely learned Shotokan when he went to Japan and visited other ethnic Korean-Japanese as well. I don't know about Muay influences, since he never admit such influences, so can't say anything on that.
@asadal123 He learned Shotokan for only 2 years, then transferred to Goju Ryu, where he attained 8th dan. this is well documented, never before has anyone ever told me that Kyokushin is more Shotokan than Goju-Ryu, it just isn't true.
As far as I know, from what I have read, Masutatsu Oyama considered himself to be Japanese, he called himself by his Japanese name, rather than Choi Yeong-Eui (I apologise if I spelt that wrong, my korean is pretty poor), and sought Japanese citizenship.
1. Yes, both Shotokan and Goju Ryu are Okinawan M.A., not Japanese M.A.
2. Mastatsu Oyama wanted to hide his identity just like Ridizon, but Oyama kept his Korean citizenship. He later got his Japanese citizneship, just he's still a Korean resident of Japan or Zainichi.
@asadal123 Early Oyama Karate (which became Kyokushin) fighters did have many fights with Thai fighters, due to Oyama's dislike of low contact Karate, these bouts, which were fairly equal in victories, didn't really show that Muay Thai was superior in anything except toughness of training, Oyama adopted a very tough system of training as a result, and some people blended the two to get Japanese kickboxing, which is nearly as popular as Muay Thai.
It's a common fact that Japan was influenced by Korea and China throughout their history and also common fact that Japanese was creative enough to put that in their own style, which I called innovation, not inventions or anything else. Right now, Japan is doing the same thing with cars, and modern technology.
@pbzkfdt11 Ah...Unfortunately not, Karate Kyokushin's been mutilated in so many groups upon heritage issues and, in my opinion, bad questionments around who would be sosai Oyama's real follower that a lot of great masters wouldn't accept to be shown together.
@4c00h being realistic means having sensations close to reality, punching someone in the head with bare nuckles with those direct an full powered punches would simply result in a murder.
keep in mind that kyokushin karate punches are not boxing punches.
OSU everyone should learn the strogest karate you should follow my advice i train kyokushin i tell you no one will want to mess with you no metter what.
TheFighterman15 1 month ago
@TheFighterman15 It doesn't matter the style it depends on the individual there is no strong karate all karate styles are strong like I said it depends on the individual.
SkyCutterFan17 1 month ago
@Spiderman7670 true! Sadly 95% people dont realise that.
indirockfella92 2 months ago
Kyokushinkai is next on my list of Karate styles to do, I'm currently doing Kempo!
dakentaijutsu2010 2 months ago
To everybody who thinks their style is better than the others. I'm just gonna say it's not the style but the person behind it. It's how well you apply the moves & how much you push yourself.
Spiderman7670 4 months ago
@Spiderman7670 I agree with you 100 percent bro
SkyCutterFan17 1 month ago
every one who´s practicing knock down karate is part of the worlds greatest family. shin-kyokushin,seidokan,ashihara,oyama ryu,shindokan it doesn´t matter. we are all brothers of the greatest martial art ever to exist.thanx to oyama sosai for giving this great legacy to us.OSU!!!
Pitfighter2000 5 months ago
Kyokushin Karate is the best.
ImHotCozImFlat 5 months ago
I'm currently practicing Kyokushin and also learning Japanese. Maybe I'll see these dudes someday. :)
WhyTheFlux 5 months ago 4
@WhyTheFlux Sir
(Kimi ha) nan nen ni Kyokushin no renshu o shimasuka? (Kimi ha) Yudansha ka Mudansha desuka? Doko de Kyokushin no renshu o shimasuka? Boku ha Okinawa ken de Kyokushin no karate no renshu o shimashita. (Kimi no) Nihongo ga josu desuka? Osu
1banryukyu 5 months ago
@1banryukyu I'm not that good yet, It's my first semester studying Japanese! :) Osu!
WhyTheFlux 5 months ago
@WhyTheFlux Sir
Good luck with your Japanese. I train in the Japanese Martial Arts in Japan. My Youtube channel is about the Japanese Martial Arts and Japanese language and culture as it applies to the Martial Arts. I have a series were I go to Japanese Martial Arts schools in Chugoku Chiho Japan. What rank are you in Kyokushin now? Osu
1banryukyu 5 months ago 2
@WhyTheFlux
I am also working on a self-study Japanese language
SStaatuSS 5 months ago 3
@SStaatuSS
self studying another language is a hard task my friend
but you are not alone
I'm also self-studying japanese, spanish and french
good luck! :))
kaissarMCR 1 month ago
for the fact that jimmy is a so called pro fighter, doug seems to be the tougher guy. jimmy is always complaining about something but doug isn´t.
Pitfighter2000 5 months ago
Kyokushin is a great style but I think it wouldnt be a great self defense like Shotokan this is my honest opinion
SkyCutterFan17 5 months ago
@SkyCutterFan17 "SHOTOKAN" being better than Kyokushin for self defence- you can't be serious?
9108t 1 month ago
@9108t Shotokan has elusive footwork unlike Kyokushin very forward Shotokan is in and out Attacks Kyokushin lack punching in the face.
SkyCutterFan17 1 month ago
@SkyCutterFan17 - they don't punch to the face ONLY in competiton because it's FULL CONTACT BARE KNUCKLE tournaments - not faggy ass shotokan tournaments. If you're a shotokan practitioner - try sparring with a kyokushin fighter - you'd get killed!!!!
gomergilligan 2 weeks ago
@gomergilligan Hey dickhead its not the style it all comes down to the individual
SkyCutterFan17 2 weeks ago
@SkyCutterFan17 - hey dickhole - this is what you said "Shotokan has elusive footwork unlike Kyokushin very forward Shotokan is in and out Attacks Kyokushin lack punching in the face." I explained the lack of punching to the face (tournament only) - and shit-okan elusive footwork??? Only a pussy faggot that NEVER fought full contact - would say something as asnine as that.
gomergilligan 1 week ago
@gomergilligan I could see that your very ignorant little kid but you should never disrespect any style like I said it all comes down to the individual just because its full-contact doesn't make any other style useless eveything has a strength and weakness.
SkyCutterFan17 1 week ago
@SkyCutterFan17 - yep - you should've said that in the first place instead of dissing Kyokushin and elevating shit -okan. You're right - it is the individual - but honestly - the ONLY people shit-okan fighters beat - are OTHER shit-okan fighters.
gomergilligan 1 week ago
@gomergilligan Little boy I wasn't disrespecting Kyokushin I was just giving facts about it Shotokan can beat anybody as well as Kyokushin it all comes down to the individual.
SkyCutterFan17 1 week ago
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Spiderman7670 1 week ago
@SkyCutterFan17 sorry I misread your comment
Spiderman7670 1 week ago
@gomergilligan Due in shotokan your bones get harder. You really don't get tthat overconfidence can be a bad thing. No style is superior to another. Like me personally I'm not really into boxing but just because I know shotokan doesn't necessarily mean that I can beat any pro boxer.
Spiderman7670 1 week ago
@Spiderman7670 I agree my friend
SkyCutterFan17 1 week ago
@Spiderman7670 I agree my friend
SkyCutterFan17 1 week ago
man americans are so weak and dumb at kicking!!!!!!!!!
samuraiwarrior1988 7 months ago
I enjoy kyokushin karate versus americanized tkd. more emphasis on the practice of art versus the commercialization of a product! whose with me?
boxer12350 8 months ago
@boxer12350 americanized TKD makes me cry AKA American Taekwondo Association
Huhmasta 7 months ago
I enjoy kyokushin karate versus americanized tkd. more emphasis on the practice of art versus the commercialization of a product! whose with me?
boxer12350 8 months ago
4:24 "Oss! Shiiiiiit!"
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Krurnosai 9 months ago
0:58 = HADOUKEN
kingfrog5 10 months ago 2
WHY! WHY! does every fight quest video make every martial art look badass except for wing chun
wingchunner01 10 months ago
To clear it up to everyone that doesnt know:
There is no Ultimate fighting srlye, and if there was, then we would all be training it.
Every matrial art or fighting sport has its benefits and weaknesses.
We have to know which one is the best for US ( because everyone is build differently)
If there is any man or woman who thinks different, let me knw and join me iin this converstation here ^^
Otherwise let that be known and dont be shortsighted or ignortant, cuz that will cost ya in live
Kakashi01Hatake 10 months ago
I do Kyokushin and the only let down is the guard, pretty shit guard.
milnusthegnome 10 months ago
Dammmm i wanna learn how to break stuff like that is awsome
RmSBoxer101 10 months ago
The stupidity of thinking that kyokushin is 90% "taking a shot" is unbelievable, kyokushin fighters like the ones in the clip are very skilled karatekas not just guys who can take a shot. Admittedly it is a big part of kyokushin but there is also an awful lot of skill involved
Scobehunter666 11 months ago
@Scobehunter666 Im sure they didnt mean it doesnt require skill, its just that the fighters are CLEARLY taking hits and have to be very, very conditioned for it. Because, as demonstrated, koykushin is a power MA.
StephonST 10 months ago
Not tring to be harsh but i wonder if all these guys are still alive after what happened to Japan. Sad man.
techboy556 11 months ago
@techboy556
Different area, so yes, probably.
Grumblemarc 8 months ago
6:42 Even his 'light tap' sounds powerfull.
Throred 1 year ago
maaan... i am so going back to my gym after this
XXsorinXX 1 year ago
Organized despair
nething94 1 year ago
GSP has a 3rd dan black belt in Kyokushin Karate!
mfiamski 1 year ago 2
I like Kyokushin Karate most out of the other Karate styles ><` AH Goju-ryu too..
KamikazeiOo 1 year ago 2
@KamikazeiOo
Oyama Sensei and Yamaguchi Sensei were simply amazing
DashBrandon 1 year ago
now i feel bad about quitting kyokushin lol
shibukisama 1 year ago
@shibukisama Go back its never too late, gives you strong mind and confidence, you lucky bastard I wish I could but have an injury, so consider youreself lucky to be able to continue doin this.
KREATE23 1 year ago
these white boys cant even say the name of the style correctly. its Kyokushin NOT Kiyo kushin. If you are gonna put a show about a certain martial art on TV learn how to properly pronounce it you idiots.
JtotheS09 1 year ago
@RolandStGermain true, like yellow bamboo style and mcdojo soccer moms
maphitha1 1 year ago
I am really impressed by his strike on solid ice at 4:05.
I watched it carefully about 60 times.
Really straight, powerful and skilled.
Oooz.
DerSpartaner 1 year ago
There are bad styles just the same as there are bad stylists.
RolandStGermain 1 year ago
fuck havin him as a math teacher
thiscommentistrue 1 year ago
hey thats kancho shokei matsui
OmNiMaN100 1 year ago
one thing human weapon did do right was outline the history and concepts of the styles they are learning. I wish they did more of that here
TheAdrokk 1 year ago
hey! thats shokei matsui, im surprised the show didnt tell them who he is.
xchrisbobisx 1 year ago 23
@xchrisbobisx IKO 1 Ironic, but forget it...(i'm iko sosai, dont tell anybody hahaha)
luis1629 10 months ago
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to make it simple.. karate and taekwondo are the same. Just tat one is taught in japanese and another is in korean. both have kicks, both have punches. Haha.. And i dun believe in any martial art is superior in another. Anyway i am a taekwondo practioner for 15yrs.. I also take some karate move as my sparring consideration :D so to me both martial art rocks!
TianMiMi 1 year ago
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TianMiMi 1 year ago
No martial arts is better than the other. Only a better fighter
BLUTONIUMBERRY1 1 year ago
I didn't even say in my comment that TKD was better than kyokushin so don't tell lies and don't call me a punk ass faggot cos I don't even know me and why did u put in brackets it's a joke obviously u have no respect for any other martial art than your own making u ignorant and small minded. There is no superior art, style, method, system or technique only superior practitioners
RandomBoi1991 1 year ago 39
@RandomBoi1991 hey, it looks like Tae kwon do probably had some kind of influence on this art.
bluestingerborg 9 months ago
@bluestingerborg Maybe because Kyokushin was founded by a Korean.
His Japanese name is quite famous (Mas Oyama). His Korean name is not so famous(Choi Bae Dael)
Choi lived in Japan at a time when Japan was a military powerhouse. And being a Korean living in Japan, racism and segregation was as common as udon noodles. Choi fought many Japanese and beat them all. They even stabbed him to get rid of him. Put him in jail and he punched stone walls to train. He sparred with 1500 pound bulls.
kinja2008 9 months ago 2
@kinja2008 Yeah he was a korean-Japanese.
bluestingerborg 9 months ago
@bluestingerborg No, he was not Japanese. He was a full blooded Korean. However, if it were not for the trials he faced in Japan. Choi bae dal may not have been able to fight one hundred men continuously in Kumite or may have not tapped into the super human. Whether he could have or not? That's irrelevant and it's history. Nevertheless we cannot discredit Japan for the success of (Zainichi Chōsenjin) or Koreans living in Japan especially in KyoKushin Karate and even Hapkido.
kinja2008 9 months ago
@kinja2008 I would love to take this martial art
bluestingerborg 9 months ago
@kinja2008 He hated the fact that he was Korean, and called himself Japanese, he even changed his name so why even bother?
shaztekk 8 months ago
@shaztekk wtf? lol..he never hated himself for being korean. such rubbish..
ganjislammer 6 months ago
@ganjislammer You fail at history.
shaztekk 6 months ago
@shaztekk uhh he never hated being korean lol. a book that he read inspired him somehow that he was destined to be a japanese which is why he went there. talk about fail o.O~
ganjislammer 6 months ago
@RandomBoi1991 i don't even know me (c) RandomBoi1991 hahahaha
bishketflux 9 months ago
@RandomBoi1991 well there is anyways the opposite of a superior art and that is whatever bs Leung Ting teaches! Any other art IS an art! Period!
farbeyondfear 7 months ago
@RandomBoi1991 very well said. I very much agree that there are only superior practitioners. The artist is the hand guiding the tool
mohinigirl 6 months ago
@RandomBoi1991 TKD is the worst martial arts. Just so you know it's a universal fact
fanzimei 4 months ago
haha these arguments are all the same
jponsillo 1 year ago
@fightluv Not really. Kyokushin is known for it's tough training and conditioning. While most other schools (at least in my area) really don't train like we do. Alot of the people who have trained with in other styles say the same thing after they train at our school. Regardless of what anyone thinks I do respect other styles but most don't compare to Kyokushin.
murph330i 1 year ago
Randomboi- I do respect other people's arts. But when little punk faggots like you come on here and say they TKD is better than Kyokushin(which is joke) that's when I speak my mind. So deal with it.
OSU!
murph330i 1 year ago
@ murph330i your a wanker your the one who's talking smack learn to respect other people arts you ignorant twat
RandomBoi1991 1 year ago
@fightluv From my experience TKD training doesn't really consist of tough conditioning or sparring. They'll throw some fancy kicks that don't mean shit and they usually end up falling down doing so. It's not a true fighting art like Kyokushin of Muay Thai. So when TKD practitioners come on here talking smack it makes me laugh. Watch some videos with Kyokushin vs TKD and you will see for yourself.
murph330i 1 year ago
TKD is a joke..
murph330i 1 year ago
@murph330i its almost the same as kick boxing
flysnake12 1 year ago
What is he kicking at 6:24? What is it called? Where can I get one?
stevebintn 1 year ago
@stevebintn its a makiwara
afrohoofd12 1 year ago
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gailwill1 1 year ago
@afrohoofd12 I've never seen a hanging makiwara. Where can I get one?
stevebintn 1 year ago
@afrohoofd12 no idea man check g00gle
afrohoofd12 1 year ago
Why was Kyokushin made by a Korean??-
Hanul91 1 year ago
@Hanul91 More importantly, why didn't that Korean think that TKD was sufficient?
Iaazathoth 1 year ago
@Iaazathoth
TKD was illegal during occupation.
Hanul91 1 year ago
@Hanul91 False. Taekwondo did not exist during occupation. Shotokan was introduced to Korea during occupation and is why Taekwondo looks more like karate than taekeon etc. General Choi and other Korean masters do not deny this.
Oyama was a 13 year old child when he left Korea with no real training. 99.999% of his martial knowledge came from japanese martialarts. For koreans to take credit for kyokushin is as stupid as americans taking credit for karate because chuck norris is american. STOOPID!
aldridge1 1 year ago
@aldridge1
False, Taekwondo did exist during occupation. The reason why Taekwondo looks like Karate is the belt system and wearing of white clothing, which is not part of Korean martial arts culture. Oyama was trained first be a Manchurian or Korean in Manchuria then he moved to Japan. For Japanese to take credit for Karate is even MORE stupid since Karate was never indigenous Japanese, it was Okinawan under influence of Chinese martial arts. ^___^
Hanul91 1 year ago
@Hanul91 There were martial arts in Korea previous to jap occupation, but hey only in part resembled modern taekwondo (I have 10 years of TKD and 20+years of Kyokushin and understand the technical differences better than most and can tell you Kyokushin and korean MA are very different. Oyama ,as a child, learned little from the unskilled farmhand in Manchuria. My Shihans were close personal friends of Sosai. Sosai himself denied any Korean influence in Kyokushin, but of course you know better.
aldridge1 1 year ago
@aldridge1
The only Old Korean martial arts that resemble TKD is Taekyun, which was a martal arts during Korean Kingdoms era. Kyokushin is nothing more than TKD style but hardcore-ness. Korean martial arts, the old ones are known to be this hardcore.
Hanul91 1 year ago
You can accept the truth or you can live in denial. Your choice. If you wish to delude yourself that Taekwondo and Kyokushin are connected that is your business. One of my Shihans was Sosai's english translater for many years and a close personal friend of Sosai and I can tell you for a FACT there is no connection to Korea other than that is where Sosai was born. The DELUSION you cling to was created after Sosai's death because no one would dare speak these LIES while he lived.
aldridge1 1 year ago
@aldridge1
LOL Fine believe in your lies then. Even head of Kyoskushin is a Zainchi Korean (3:02). hahahahhahha Probably you deny also that in the video, the building in background is a TYPICALLY Korean style house, UNCOMMON in Japan. So believe in that "lie" too. Japan is known to have many Korean influences, you might deny that also. ^___^
Hanul91 1 year ago
@Hanul91 I did not say taekwondo and kyokushin are not connected, OYAMA SAID THEY ARE NOT CONNECTED. You are not calling me a liar , you are calling OYAMA a liar. No one denies cultural transference and I don't care what think innovation means or for your petty racism/nationalism. I am not japanese or korean: I am a student of Kyokushin and know the history of my art. Oyama learned all his martialarts in japan. So what!! Kyokushin is above your petty racism. Are you even a kyokushin student?
aldridge1 1 year ago
@aldridge1
Tell me where he EVER said that. Alight?? Oyama learned martial arts in Japan, but Kyokushin itself is a product because of him, not Karate. Remember that. Also to say Karate is simply Japanese is erronous since you are being Japanocentric. Karate was never Japanese until partioners from Japan "japonized" it. ^___^
Hanul91 1 year ago
@aldridge1 Actually he took small parts from Muay Thai, and even spent some time with Kempo/Kung Fu fighters,.
So, he was a Korean Descendant who considered himself Japanese who had experience with Chinese, Japanese, Ryukyuan, Thai MA's, In fact, the whole peninsula bore visits from him.
Hankthejollyspoon 1 year ago
@Hankthejollyspoon
Actually, he wasn't nationality Japanese since he still had his Korean citizenship though. He did tried to hide his identity for sometime too. Also, he didn't took out any forms from Muay Thai, but he did had some Chinese Kempo influence on his early career with background of Shotokan (Okinawan). That's what I heard.
asadal123 1 year ago
@asadal123 I said he considered himself Japanese, many ethnic Koreans in Japan do.
Only the early stuff in Kyokushin is Shotokan, the rest is Goju, and Shoto is definitely a Japanese style of Karate, rather than an Ryukyuan one.
He did have Muay influences, but these show up more in training and method than technique, with Kyokushin's emphasis on endurance and attrition. Instead of traditional Ikken Hissatsu, 1 hit kill.
Hankthejollyspoon 1 year ago
@Hankthejollyspoon
not many ethnic Zainichis considered themselves as "Japanese", they faced many discrimination, and of course Oyama did. The rest is not Goju or Shoto, but more Shotokan. He definitely learned Shotokan when he went to Japan and visited other ethnic Korean-Japanese as well. I don't know about Muay influences, since he never admit such influences, so can't say anything on that.
asadal123 1 year ago
@asadal123 He learned Shotokan for only 2 years, then transferred to Goju Ryu, where he attained 8th dan. this is well documented, never before has anyone ever told me that Kyokushin is more Shotokan than Goju-Ryu, it just isn't true.
As far as I know, from what I have read, Masutatsu Oyama considered himself to be Japanese, he called himself by his Japanese name, rather than Choi Yeong-Eui (I apologise if I spelt that wrong, my korean is pretty poor), and sought Japanese citizenship.
Hankthejollyspoon 1 year ago
@Hankthejollyspoon
1. Yes, both Shotokan and Goju Ryu are Okinawan M.A., not Japanese M.A.
2. Mastatsu Oyama wanted to hide his identity just like Ridizon, but Oyama kept his Korean citizenship. He later got his Japanese citizneship, just he's still a Korean resident of Japan or Zainichi.
asadal123 1 year ago
@asadal123 Early Oyama Karate (which became Kyokushin) fighters did have many fights with Thai fighters, due to Oyama's dislike of low contact Karate, these bouts, which were fairly equal in victories, didn't really show that Muay Thai was superior in anything except toughness of training, Oyama adopted a very tough system of training as a result, and some people blended the two to get Japanese kickboxing, which is nearly as popular as Muay Thai.
Hankthejollyspoon 1 year ago
@aldridge1
It's a common fact that Japan was influenced by Korea and China throughout their history and also common fact that Japanese was creative enough to put that in their own style, which I called innovation, not inventions or anything else. Right now, Japan is doing the same thing with cars, and modern technology.
Hanul91 1 year ago
@Hanul91 oyama was Korean-Japanese
burningknuckle26 1 year ago
@burningknuckle26 He was born in Korea, but at the time it was a Japanese colony.
RomeoSOF2 1 year ago
LOL Kyokushin is a jap copy.
Hanul91 1 year ago
@Hanul91
Everyone, click on the link "@Hanul91", and you'll find that he is suffering from an almighty inferiority complex.
TayounoriseMusa 1 year ago
I've seen this episode about a billion times and I still wanna watch it again and again
masterdimsen 1 year ago 2
is that shokei matsui?
pbzkfdt11 1 year ago
@pbzkfdt11 yes it is.
GrimReaperAlphaTeam 1 year ago
@GrimReaperAlphaTeam wow cool......thanks......so I guess all the real kyokushin masters are there........
pbzkfdt11 1 year ago
@pbzkfdt11 Ah...Unfortunately not, Karate Kyokushin's been mutilated in so many groups upon heritage issues and, in my opinion, bad questionments around who would be sosai Oyama's real follower that a lot of great masters wouldn't accept to be shown together.
Still that's regrettable.
GrimReaperAlphaTeam 1 year ago 3
doug is cool as fuck but jimmy does my head in the guy doesnt shut the fuck up!
chunkysupreme 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
its sad to say but 5 days is not enough to understand what is the point of the martial art you trained
tsunami1994 1 year ago 2
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tsunami1994 1 year ago
how can they say it's realistic when they're not allowed to punch each other in the head?
4c00h 1 year ago
@4c00h
you idiot thats for competition rules only!!!
what are you like 5?
kftkft 1 year ago 3
@4c00h being realistic means having sensations close to reality, punching someone in the head with bare nuckles with those direct an full powered punches would simply result in a murder.
keep in mind that kyokushin karate punches are not boxing punches.
GrimReaperAlphaTeam 1 year ago
Woot I found the video they deleted most of them uploads from budomate and legendarytigerofasia =(
chavamma 1 year ago
i want to train in the gym that jimmy is training at.
thebluedragon07 1 year ago
hey,can someone tell me the name of fight quest theme song,you know,the guitar thing?
kirasagi99 1 year ago
First post! :D
narathh 1 year ago