The Bah'i Book of Laws forbids men to shave their heads but commands them to "wear sable just as you wear silk and squirrel skin." Most men when going bald hate it and feel they look better for the ladies if they shave their head. They look younger. They'd probably rather do that and skip the sable, silk, and squirrel skin.
The Baha'i Book of Laws -- which they say is our guidance for a thousand years -- also forbids men to have hair below their ears.
He Who speaks the Word, Who said, "Before Abraham was, I am", was also before Jesus, for Abraham was before Jesus. When God speaks His Word to us, we must listen, for He said, "My sheep know My voice." - O Son of Being! Thy heart is My home; sanctify it for My descent. Thy spirit is My place of revelation; cleanse it for My manifestation. from the Hidden Words of Baha'u'llah - When I read these Holy Words, I hear His voice
@fsmtdaler If your actions here are the result of your beliefs, you have given me an insight to the alternatives to this Faith.It appears to me, and several others who have observed this encounter that you have become bitter, mean, a fanatic and a hypocrite. Is this what you have to offer?
By their fruits ye shall know them. I have decided to become a Baha'i.
And get a life.
As-Salāmu `Alaykum
And yes I have posted this more than once,I want everyone to know.
@fsmtdaler -- Then chant your mantra with devotion. That's one of the ways Baha'is can purify their hearts. It's the heart of the Baha'i Faith. (Even though for 150 years your "adiminstration" told them not to do it.)
@happygraceful: praise God, what great hope and assurance we have in Jesus, other beliefs say do do do, Jesus said done, he did what we could not do and now we live for him out of love and gratitude rather than obligation and pressure, his Name be forever praised!
@mrheartlandroofing: as a former Baha'i turned Christian: God Bless you. Praise Jesus for He is the one and only Son of God and gave His life so that I shall be blessed with everlasting salvation. Amen
@happygraceful -- Gurus always take on karma for their devotees. But the true heart of Christianity is God-search so you can get love-of-God. (Jesus' "Greatest Law.")
I am a former Baha'i who turned Hindu yogi. The Baha'i Faith helped teach me about the devotional attitude towards God that Jesus is asking Christians for in Luke 10:27.
God search and felt love-of-God from God-experience is the true essence of the better religions.
Yeah, this is so bogus. I could smell it from a long way off.. I believe in Jesus only because He came to me first, showed me who he is. I was not looking for him, he just took me as his own, loved me and showed me that i belong to him alone. Nothing can change the love i know.
"The worlds youngest religion: the bahai faith"...This phrase says it all. People invent religion and "faith" according to the current events and environment. So this is really pure BULLSHIT. Fuck religion. Never works for nothing good.
your both wrong---they are both part of the vatican---the vatican is the golbal religion --they just decreed that they are the central religion and anything that defies this would be dealt with
these are another part of the illuminatis and massonry ---only in another part of the globe
Why not Christianity? They are the ones with all the money and power, dropping all the bombs, forcing all the taxes, enslaving the entire world, imprisioning or deposing for non compliance. Christians have the most banal beliefs that are so easily injected into young minds, preying upon man's childish desire for a savior, most often ensuring a lifetime of servitude and blind worship. If I was NWO, I would use Christianity, it is already "rolled out" and has most of the world presently duped.
With the exception of bringing David Kelly to attention, most of this video is weak out of context bull crap way to attack the Bahai Faith. May suggest start with the life of Baha'u'llah: elitist Persian royalty where he is not only entitled to be a polygamist, but much obliged to take 3 wives, and the notion that everyone must seek parental consent for marriage monogamously? This is another version of a cock blocking Abrahamic dynasty religion.
I'm not going to have to make a choice in what to believe in, because It's right in front of me. The Holy Bible, and if anyone says they have read it and there's lies and what not....then they know nothing about what it really is.... It is about God and putting him before everything else for he is a jealous God and he openly admits it.....There is no hiding the truth with God, just Love.
@DivineFellowship as for your opinion of the members of the Universal House of Justice that's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it... just a note though they have no power as individuals they only have authority when they meet and through consultation come to a decision. Take care now!
@DivineFellowship Thanks for the reply, Though you are right about others with less than noble aspirations having more progress on NWO I personally believe that they are laying the frame work for a true NWO in which unity in diversity will be the main aspiration. A NWO that is less sinister and more a necessary step towards the progress of the human race. I believe that in the end they will not rule what they built but the people will and lovers of freedom and peace will inherit it all. peace
I cant believe this video still gets viewed. A woman barely investigates something with petty conspiracy theories poorly researched.... do you know that this will literally put innocent people in iran in danger by feeding lies?
I've grown up in Bahai communities throughout yuppy white and persian immigrants in America who shove that tear jerking bull shit about the poor opressed Bahais in Iran, yet these same yuppy BAHAIS don't GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEIR OWN FUCKING CHILDREN being left alone with pedophiles, AND THEN they push this bizaar parental consent law up these same children's asses. FUCK YOU.!
That translation was by Elder and Miller, Arabic scholars (the first an author of an Arabic grammar) with no axe to grind or agenda except to translate the text accurately.
The words speak for themselves about how Baha'u'llah thought, what the Baha'i religion is like. It would be sad for him to see that all he's got now is a bunch of twits who don't LIKE his book, want to misrepresent it, and use every loophole imaginable. In the case of the branding, Baha emphasized: 'Don't flake on this.'
"Whoever burns a house intentionally, kill him." (Paragraph)
"Whoever kills a person with intent, kill him."
(Paragraph)
"Take the ordinances of God with hands of power and might. Then desert the ordinances of the ignorant." [He's emphasizing: Do this. Don't flake out.] "If you condemn them (the arsonist or murderer) to perpetual prison, you have no no harm according to the Book. Indeed, He is the Ruler over what He desires." [If you want to be flakes you can do that.]
Baha'is make a mockery of the Baha-Biker man by carrying on as if nothing he said is to be taken seriously or as he said it. Like, I guess, the "manifestation of God" got everything wrong and said everything wrong. Despite all his hyperbolic fulminations.
"Say! This Is What the Primal Peroogee Hath Decreed From his Most August Crib, Crux of all Confibulations! Take Heed that ye not be of the Mordantly Malefic, Lest Thee Muddle and be of the Mendacious!" Still they don't take him seriously.
@ramindjame -- I'm not interested in "Buddhist functions." Also, Buddhist functions don't feature spirited and typed debates on religion. Sorry if you don't like sparks.
Say: By the daystar of Ram-Jamindian Glory beneath the Yewtubian Place of Disremembrance, I have manifested the Mystery of the Overturning of the Chief! Blessed be he among the Near ones who makes one damned lick of sense."
Don't spew jive, bud. Don't Baha'is continually call for a "New World Order" and have books with that title? Don't Baha'is intend to be the world government? The law? The amoral stance Baha'i take of being "non political" (no opinion about anything important, no moral influence) -- is to save their little asses from trouble. If they took a moral stand they grow more. Most moral issues end up discussed politically. Then Baha'is can't talk about that. So it means Baha'is basically are irrevelant.
@Tom101229 -- Baha'i can't be two centuries old in the west, because the Baha'is never even got their Book of Laws until a few years ago. Then even now, they don't follow it. (Do the Baha'i women do that special chant all day whenever they are having a period?) So really, the Baha'i Faith has never even started in the west. It died in the east. What we have now is a Marxist-inspired deracination and nation-killing cultural movement called the Baha'i Faith.
The anti-technology Founders believed science should be SUBJECT to religion; that it should comport with; conform to, religious values. The Baha'i PR men trimmed this idea to the phrase "The harmony of science and religion." Today Baha'is take that to mean the opposite of the founders' attitude: They think it means religion cannot/should not not hamper science; that there can be no conflict between the two. (I have met Baha'is who think this.) So the teaching ended up backwards in Baha'i heads.
@DivineFellowship "You have not studied enough religions, or probably even any one religion, to be able to call them all "BS." You're pure BS, bud."
= wishful thinking. If you spent more time critically thinking istead of protecting your giant ego, you might actualy learn something. All the older relgiions originate from animistic beliefs, without exception. Religious people ignore the fact there is plenty of hard evidence proving that fact. Ostridge syndrome. lol
@Valthepixie -- "istead of protecting your giant ego,"
My comments here are about the Baha'i Faith, not myself. I have spent a lot of time, in fact, posting quotes from your Most Holy Book. That's about me? Or is it about you?
"...you might actualy learn something."
Funny. No doubt my study of this topic exceeds yours. I started studying it approx. 35 yrs. ago, so avidly interested I located an Aqdas in English. You don't even comprehend the Sufi and Islamic aspects of your own religion.
@DivineFellowship "My comments here are about the Baha'i Faith, not myself. I have spent a lot of time, in fact, posting quotes from your Most Holy Book."
You must have mistaken me for one of those idiots who believe in dark age middle eastern myths. It's not my "Most Holy Book". I need no such thing to cherry pick through in order to be good.
""istead of protecting your giant ego," and "you might actualy learn something." Were both in reference to your purile insults.
@DivineFellowship "my study of this topic exceeds yours." ROFL, you should really do something about your giant ego. You know nothing about me, your assumption of superiority is pure ego.. The only thing you seem to know is how to insult people. You seem to think everyone believes in the same dark age codswallop. "You don't even comprehend the Sufi and Islamic aspects of your own religion.".
ALL the old religions orginate from ancient Animism, without exception. Provable fact.
@DivineFellowship "My comments here are about the Baha'i Faith, not myself.."Liar, I never knew the Baha'i version of the unsubstantiated involved insulting everyone at every available opportunity. You've spoken about nothing except your own superior knowlege to massage your own ego.
@DivineFellowship You wan't to talk philosophy then answer this... If your deity is all knowing that includes knowledge of the future. So, how can you change the known ?
If you answer 'you can't change the known', then there is no such thing as feewill. If you answers 'with your freewill', then there is no such thing as omniscience. They are opposing absolutes. Omniscience + freewill = Oxymoron.
"All the older relgiions originate from animistic beliefs, without exception."
All religions emerge from consciousness, like the rest of the transient external world-dream. Hey, sorry, you get the religion you deserve, bud. It's ok that your worldview is vacant. Religion isn't "the past." "Past stories" are part of the transient miasm, found to be malleable, changing. (This is Vedanta, a religion over your head.) You need to get out more, kid. (Sorry, but as a philosopher you are adolescent.)
@DivineFellowship "your worldview is vacant." Pft oh yeh Every atom in your body came from a star that exploded. And the atoms in your left hand probably came from a different star than your right hand. The elements, the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron, all the things that matter for evolution were created in the nuclear furnaces of stars. And the only way they could get into your body is if the stars were kind enough to explode. So forget Jesus. The stars died so you could live.
@DivineFellowship "you get the religion you deserve / a religion over your head / You need to get out more, kid./ Sorry, but as a philosopher you are adolescent." " See there you go again insulting people again... how to win friends and influence people, volume 1. You think your'e a philosopher... *rolls eyes*
Do your self a favor, go back to school and pay atttention, that way we can all leave the dark ages where they belong. ;)
The Bab was anti-technology. One of the cool things about him. This from Arabic scholar Earl E. Elder who lived long in Persia:
"The Bab expected that a Babi State would be established in Iran...All non-Babi books must be burned...the sciences and philosophy must not be studied. Foreign travel was forbidden." (It required technology.) Baha'u'llah also had an anti-technology stance. ("We have heard that an infernal engine hath been devised...its fire shall consume the cities.") -- Cont.
@TranshumanCyborg -- The Baha'i Faith is as authoritarian as the Catholic Church. Not that authority's a bad thing. It's just that they suppress leadership and individual initiative, and don't have a Pope. So that makes them boring and makes sure they don't grow, but instead just churn new members into a growing pile of disaffected members (on the rolls). The Baha'is keep pumping new blood into a corpse of 90 percent dead names on their lists, which keeps growing.
@CandlesOfUnityPro -- It says the folks should educate the child. Not FedGov. Not Zog. Not some homosexual at the public school. Not some lesbian. Not some feminism. Better for a child to learn wholesomeness, how to do real things, garden, carpentry, how to create and manufacture things -- than all the worthless crap and social indoctrination in the Zog-schools. Many of the girls are turning lesbian now because of the "culture" of the Fed schools. Keep your kids at home.
@articzoo -- Cults are good. We need more cults. The government has all their cults. Cults are where cult-ture gets cultivated. Christianity starte as a cult. ("The Cult of the Nazarene," the Romans called it..) Cults are good.
MY SUMMARY: The Founder was an Islamic sort; the religion very Islamic. They were basically sufis, Islamic mystics. All mystics tend to say something about "oneness of humanity" or universal brotherhood. So did beh-HAW-oh-LAW (correct pronuc.). Though not more than the average mystic. It appears that Communist types hijacked the thing and whipped the "universal brotherhood" aspect into its main message, creating a kind of deracination and de-culturing machine, jettisoning the Islamic aspects.
Intelligent study there. I was involved with them many years, then grew, then saw the false aspects, which are significant. My basic motivation was religious seeker; seeker of religious knowledge. White people have been their bulwark. Those who come into it are those fed a particular program (via TV, etc.) about what "the problems" are in the world. They think things like race conflict, or religious conflict, are "big problems." They join it seeing it as the solution to those (false) problems.
@DivineFellowship I was going to just let this lie, but your view of the Faith is so bizarre and non-factual that I have to comment. According to the scriptures you say we don't read (and which can be found in most Baha'i homes) race, religious and class bigotry are merely symptoms of deeper problems, not the source of the world's ills. You've demonstrated the racial symptoms yourself. I joined the Faith because the words of Baha'u'llah in 7 Valleys, the Iqan and Hidden Words especially, woke me
I've never heard anyone turn the idea of universal education, loyalty to government and pacifism into a bogey man before.
When I was investigating the Baha'i Faith, I hit the Baha'is with the standard anti-Christ, your mind is a tool of the devil speech. And I think I may even have snarled at them that unity was a bad thing ... then I heard how absurd that sounded in context with the teachings of Christ.
"I've never heard anyone turn the idea of universal education, loyalty to government and pacifism into a bogey man before."
You haven't? Lots of people know that utopian promises like that are the standard bait of totalitarians, Communists, and evildoers. The rank-and-file Baha'is are more stupid than evil. Bent by their TV sets into obsessing on a set of False Problems. The Baha'i marketing package offers "answers" to their TV-stoked pain. (Which they feel because they are nice White people.)
"Unity": Abused term. What's it mean? Let's explore. First, unity is BOR-ing. The human mind tires of it quickly. The human mind generates diversity, difference, oppositions to "feel life" (creates the world, nature.) Nobody actually WANTS a monolithic reality; a one-dimensional state. When B's say they "want unity," they really want relief, for their empathizing hearts, from the conflicts they see depicted in media. They want a good feeling.
A "good feeling" is not the same thing as "unity." Unity is a cosmic state of complete oneness, finality, cessation of movement. We each have that nightly in dreamless sleep (according to the Upanishads), where we are fused with Brahman, the mass of consciousness. We stir from it because we are bored. We want the world of differences, dramas, conflicts, resolutions, chase and gain, loss, evolution. When Baha'is say they want "unity," they really want "good feelings" by seeing elements interact.
I'm amazed that quantumsolutions managed to completely miss how the Faith actually spread and instead "theorizes" that it's like a product roll out. The only difference in the spread of faith now and, say, at the time of Christ is the means of communication and the speed of travel.
And tho' she's used all sorts of emotionally loaded language (what a foreboding building!) I also thank her for teaching the Faith. She's probably caused quite a few folks to investigate for themselves.
"completely miss how the Faith actually spread and instead "theorizes" that it's like a product roll out."
I was a Baha'i many years & promoted it. Her description is canny. The B. Faith is indeed exactly like a product rollout. Maybe not as much with early spreaders, but even then marketing strategy was there. Now, they actually hire ad agencies. As a product rollout, the BF took ideas designed to appeal to progressives and hoisted them as a "religion," leaving out most of the real religion.
THIS LADY, DUE TO WHATEVER AGENDA SHE HAS, HAS TRIED PATHETICALLY TO CREATE A CONSPIRACY THEORY OUT OF THE BAHA'I FAITH - ALL BAHA'I BOOKS AND INSTITUTIONS ARE OPEN FOR ANY SINCERE SEEKERS TO SEARCH AND INVESTIGATE FOR THEMSELVES!
Well, the International Bankers, the Zionists who bought Israel and set up Hitler to create Israel, do have a conspiracy going on. And the naive, sincere, stupid Baha'is serve them. Obviously, the reason the Rothschilds allow the Baha'is to have their Center in Israel is because Baha'is are promoting the same Marxist agenda that they are: Deracinating, de-nationizing, de-culturing, and de-Christianizing the people. This is what the Bankers/Communists want. Baha'is stupidly help them with this.
"ALL BAHA'I BOOKS AND INSTITUTIONS ARE OPEN FOR ANY SINCERE SEEKERS TO SEARCH AND INVESTIGATE FOR THEMSELVES!"
Not so. The "institutions" suppressed the Most Holy Book (Book of Laws) for 150 years, not letting the westerners see it, saying it "hasn't been translated yet," though it was. That because if people had seen what the religion and laws was really like, they would have found it repellent and ridiculous. Then when they put it out, it was padded with crap to basically invalidate it all.
Baha'is are big on banning books. They regularly steal so-called "covenant breaker" books from libraries. At least they used to. I used to live with an early Baha'i named Ruth Moffett. When I worked on her estate she had a pile of no-no books that she had stolen from libraries over the years so nobody could read them. Baha'is cover up their embarassing history, starting with the fact that early Baha'is murdered a lot of the Babi's would wouldn't follow Baha'u'llah, and many other scandals.
The reason, in fact, that governments were always sending Baha'u'llah and his crew to different places was because wherever the Babis/Baha'is were located, their was havoc, sedition, and mayhem. The religion certainly wasn't born in a "peace" cradle. If it wasn't some of them trying to kill the shah, or battling it out with Muslims, they were trying to kill each other off. Poisonings, stabbings. For this reason governments worked together to keep them isolated or distant from their populations.
@markyaz1968 -- Typical Baha'i bromide. This started because Baha'is were always causing so much trouble, and in so much trouble with the governments, Baha'u'llah was trying to make one stand in one place without getting kicked out again. Now it amounts to Baha'is being amoral; having no view or opinion upon a great many urgent moral and ethical outrages in our various governments. They say "We don't get involved in politics." That means they cop out on life and have no moral influence any more.
Thank you so much for letting people know that Baha'u'llah has come! He is the Lord of Hosts come down with ten thousands of saints. He is the Father of Christ returned with His Son, Abdu'l-Baha. We are so blessed in this wondrous day.
As Baha'u'llah says, "Great indeed is this Day! The allusions made to it in all the sacred scriptures as the Day of God attest its greatness."
@GeorgeFarideh -- What does "Lord of Hosts" mean? Did Baha'u'llah fly in the sky with angels?
Why does he look like a surly biker or the brother of Charles Manson?
Why was he 4 feet tall?
Why did he always call himself "the Blessed Beauty" though he was a scowling imp?
Why do you call this a "great and wondrous day" when it's the Porn Age, age of the abortion holocaust, body piercing, genocidal wars like in Iraq and Libya, and economic destruction? What's so wondrous about this "day"?
@DivineFellowship "And if ye be in doubt as to that which We have sent down to Our Servant, then produce a Surah like it, and summon your witnesses, beside God, if ye are men of truth." Likewise, He saith: "Such are the verses of God: with truth do We recite them to Thee. But in what revelation will they believe, if they reject God and His verses?"
This is the fire which kindleth the flame of love in the breasts of the faithful and induceth the chill of heedlessness in the heart of the enemy.
You're all into Surahs? My teenage daughter writes better Surahs. Here, you want some more of his inanities to ponder:
"Take care not to approach the bath-houses of the Iranians. Whoever goes towards them discovers their stinking odour even before entering them. O People, avoid them and be not of the ignomious. It is like pus, and purulent matter, if you be among those who know."
-- Kitab-i-Aqdas, Most Holy Book, Luminous Guidance To Last Mankind a 1,000 Years
That's the technic used by the Islamic Government of Iran: take clips\speeches out of context and present under a different light. Pretty sad that you need to do a "debat" with a person who passed away! You should be fair and sit down with a Baha'i (who is alive!) and bring up all your "concerns", including the ones in the video and let people decide!
@sassaidi -- Let people read the Baha'i "Most Great Book," "Most Holy Book," and "Book of Laws" (the Kitab-i-Aqdas) and decide:
"God has ordained marriage (al-nikah) for you. Beware lest you go beyond two (wives), and whoever is satisfied with one of the handmaidens, his soul is at rest and so is hers, and one does no harm in taking a virgin into his service."
Great stuff. The Mormons should love this religion.
@4differenthumour -- So-called education is indeed mind-control. Kids learn things in school today that are both false and worthless. Schools today are used as Marxist indoctrination camps for deracination, demoralization, and de-nationalization. Yeah, education is mind-control.
@DivineFellowship yup your one of those people that lets all conspiracy theorys go straight to your head and have NO faith in humanity... im not religious but i know if the whole world had your mentality, we are f**ked good on you champ....
I am not of the opinion that Baha's are "conspiracists." I have stated my opinion that Bahai's are more of the nature of naive people who have received too much White-guilt propaganda via media (from the Jews). Thus they were attracted to the B. Faith as a way to expatiate their "White guilty" problem and make themselves feel noble. They are a people who have been duped; 1st sold false problems, then sold a marketing package that took the place of the real religion. Read my posts, champ.
Any religion, like Mormonism or Jehovah's Witnesses, that speak specifically about creating a one world government based around some institutional hierarchy inherent in the religions own organizational structure is probably a NWO religion
The Rothschilds (bankers) who indulge the Baha'is on Mount Carmel will go one of 2 ways:
1) Gradually infiltrate the organization (there have always been a great many Jews in the BF), and use it as 1 more puppet in the NWO rollout, since they're helping them with anti-race, anti-nation propaganda, maybe letting it stay "Baha'i" but relinquishing things (that's been happening since the 30's), or
2) Simply appropriate the Baha'i properties & buildings. They would make pretty Zionist offices.
Yes, A brilliant reveling of the truth of this cult but it's one of the many hundred versions of the New Age that resides in India. Dozens of people there calling themselves Jesus like David Ike & worshiped like gods like. Created by H.P. Blavatsky. Written when she only had a 6 grade education because she was told by a spirit guide Koot Humi(Satan). Then she wrote (witch you should read) "The Secret Doctrine". Bahai is one of the many who preach another gospel another spirit another Jesus!
@TheCyrusification -- What about religions cooked up by idiots or rotters? Like Scientology, created by Science Fiction writer El Ron Hubbard just to prove he could get rich by starting a religion.
I dig her. She's smart. I like her hmmms and umms. As a former deluded Baha'i, it's very refreshing to see a smart white woman finally dissect this crap, and not from a blind "fundy" point of view, but just from the pov of a smart White woman who doesn't want to be ruled by a banker cryptocracy. The B. Faith is a secret cancer in our society, basically, that is teaching people at the grass roots to de-racinate themselves and de-nation themselves, precisely what the NWO bankers want.
@QUANTUMSOLUTIONS: I think you show a lack of transparency in not disclosing that you're Muslim & how this -may- affect your opinion about Bahai. You've a right to your opinion, of course, & we all have the RIGHT to our religion (Islam, Bahai, Xtian, whatever) BUT you also have the obligation tell your viewers that you're a member of a community which sometimes persecutes Bahais. I'm a former Bahai; I had an ugly experience & state this up front. Your viewers deserve no less openess from you.
@GreenRad2012 -- The Muslims had a right to persecute the early Baha'is (Babis) after they tried to kill their king. I think they also have a right to persecute Baha'is for subversion of their traditional religion, creating reforms that simply lead to materialism, feminism, and that rot. If the Muslims saw how much the western Baha'is actually cover up the Islamic reality of their religion, and sell it as race-mixing and "one world" crap for Marxists, they'd probably persecute Baha'is more.
I never did drugs. Never even drank beer. )I'll bet you do drugs, or drink.) What point did I make that you disagree with, clown? That Baha'is suppressed the "Book of Laws" 140 years? Or was it 150?
"If a difference occurs when a man travels with his wife, he must pay the expenses for a full year and return her to the abiding-place from which she came or entrust her to some faithful person and (provide) what she needs for the journey to get to her place."
Hi quantumsolutions. A rollout? I think you should study the history of Bahá'í and you will realize that it is anything but. 20,000 souls have given their lives, not fighting but just for refusing to disassociate themselves from their belief in the Báb and Bahá'u'lláh over a hundred years ago in Persia. Yes, it has grown extraordinarily fast and yes, according to a Plan, but isn't there a plan in Nature too? Isn't it ok to assume that the establishment of God's Kingdom would be different?
You read too much of your own propaganda. Most Baha'i "growth" is fake. Their statistics are fake. One thing they do is refuse to take people off the rolls. I remember being Secretary of the "DTC" or "District Teaching Committee" in the 1970s and '80s. We had a "membership roll" of about 350 state-wide. Most we never saw and didn't know. A lot were disgruntled and wanted out. Some would snap at you if you called them. But there they stayed. Out of those 350 there were maybe 100 were real.
There is an incredible "churn" rate in the Baha'i membership. If I were to go back to Des Moines, Iowa, where I was a very active Baha'i for many years, I'd likely see very few people left from the old days, though they were young. It would be all new. Take me, I withdrew from it & became decidedly inactive 20 years ago and I think it's ridiculous. Thankfully, I no longer get mail from them. But guess what? I'm one of their membership statistics. I'd say 3-quarters of Baha'i membership is bogus.
So much propaganda here it's not even funny. Interesting that the person who made this video chose to skip all the spiritual teachings of the religion so that everything is out of context. For example, compulsory education is for the betterment of the world if you think about all the people, mainly female, who in much of the world are not allowed to be educated. Without all people being educated how can we achieve true equality? When some people are left out, they cannot make informed decisions.
-- The Baha'i Faith has very little for spiritual teachings, and the actual day-to-day Baha'i culture is anti-spiritual and anti-mystical.
-- Compulsory education in America is a creation of the Communist Marxists. (That's why it's son the Baha'i list.) Homeschooling produces better results socially, academically, and morally. There is NOTHING about "compulsory education" in the Book of Laws.
-- A female is not made a better mother by learning physics, engineering, etc. Likely the opposite.
-- Nobody wants "true equality." It is boring. We want cheap cigars, expensive cigars, and green ones too.
-- "True equality" is impossible because nature and karma don't allow it. There are differences in attainment, effort, experience, karmic develropment, and character. You can't make anything equal, or if you do it does not stay equal for long.
-- The best education doesn't come from institutions, especially those designed to demoralize and dumb down the people, like Federal schools.
@lyncap99 -- In today's society the more people are "educated" in the cultural Marxist schools, the less informed are their decisions. The "education" is designed to influence their decisions in service to the bankers and Marxist one-world-order control freaks.
@broadcastyogi: unless you are Queer, or a mouthy female, or have an opinion that the Bahai institutions cannot control via censorship (look it up).. then you are ostracized, marginalized, and eventually, expelled from the community. Do some research and FIND OUT about the experiences of actual people who have been =victimized= by the Bahai institutions.. then you will have a complete picture. I know because I subjected myself to it for 20 years until I could not do it any more.
One thing about the Baha'i culture is that it is EXTREMELY conformist. I must emphasize that. There are certain things Baha'is learn to say; and a wide range of things they are not supposed to say; interests they are not supposed to have. It is primarily tacit; you get subtle negative signs and no good feedback if you are not "with the program." I could rattle off 50 phrases that make up the whole Baha'i philosophical matrix, and which they use to try to answer every question. It's very limited.
Example: The Holy Book says B's are to chant "Allah'u'Abha" 95 times daily. They usually don't care for it. In Hinduism it'd be "japa," a spiritual technique. Don't say japa to them! 30 years ago at a "Greenacre" a Baha'i musician held a midnight show. He taught how the Turkish Baha'is said the mantra. He had us chanting it, Blissed out! "Auxiliary Board Member" Steve Birkland walked out in protest. Others, seeing him, also left. It was "strange." Forget japa! It wasn't official Baha'i culture!
@broadcastyogi: unless you are Queer, or a mouthy female, or have an opinion that the Bahai institutions cannot control via censorship (look it up).. then you are ostracized, marginalized, and eventually, expelled from the community. Do some research and FIND OUT about the experiences of actual people who have been =victimized= by the Bahai institutions.. then you will have a complete picture. I know because I subjected myself to it for 20 years until I could not do it any more.
Because the B. Faith attracts White people. They have good hearts and want to assuage pain of White-guilt, given by Jewtube. They join it to try to feel noble again. The Jewtube made them feel bad for being White. So the Baha'i Faith siphons off many good-hearted, noble Whites towards their self-destruction. The Marxists & bankers laugh at the death of their only obstacle. The real problems of the world are lust, family-breakdown, and lack of interest in God. Not race or religious diversity.
Excellent video! The Bahai fits with the Ultimate Religion of Iblis/Satan, it has been 100% engineered, is totaly New World Orderly, New Agely, Universally oriented... it has ties with the United Nations....it synthetize all the religions in 1(the wrong face of the religions...the one which has been entirely forged by the devils who have infiltrated the religions and corrupted them from the top... the True religion of Allah is contained in the ultimate Perfect Book of Allah, the Quran)
I think at core the B. Faith was just a weird Sufi sect run by 2 odd Sufi mystics, the Bab & Baha'u'llah (who commandered it from Subh-i-Ezel, appointed by the Bab as successor.) I think what happened is Marxist types, incl. Jews, saw the potential. Some sincere, some seeing it as a vehicle & both. Basically, "one world" idealogues, both sincere & Marxist agents, got involved and crafted it into a deracination/nation-killing, culture-destruction machine to that would attract TV-confused Whites.
Is this a joke? And this comes from what? who? The indoctrinated educated idiots? Sounds like Children of the Sun [Israli children taken from parents and put into Kibutz']...or maybe HITLERS Aryan genetic Frankensteins.
The reason the main Bahais say not to talk to dissidents- actaully they call them covenant breakers, is because they themselves are the covenant breakers who do not want anyone to hear the truth from a real true covenant following bahai. This religion has been corrupted by rahiyah kanuum who broke the will and testament of abdul baha by usurping the man seated on the throne of david. And implementing her own version. DANG PEOPLE! BAHAIS HAVE BEEN CORRUPTED but bahaullah is true! bupc .org
@melissacarl2002 -- That Bahiyih Khanum is one Uber Bitch I have to say. She scares the hell out of me. I'd hate to have to meet her. I feel sorry for that Shoghi Effendi. I'd guess that she's the reason he died young.
\The reason the Bahai .org website is stupid and fake and corporate-like is because they are CORRUPTED ALREADY! They broke the covenant of Abdul Baha and then passed it off as the people who actually kept the covenant, were covenant breakers. The real bahai religion is at bupc . org For real I kid you not.
@melissacarl2002 -- The real cool times were with the Bab. Now, there was one jammin' mystic. Apparently he planned a thousand-year reich and planned to rule the world. What a freaky dude, that Bab.
Well, the first is "removal of administrative rights." This means you can't vote or be elected to one of their stupid "institutions." You get that sting if you're fornicating or drugging. Probably common now. Next is more serious defrockings that Baha'is talk about in whispers. 1st would be getting tagged "Enemy of the Faith." Some dumbass interviews you or whatever. Finally, you have "Covenant Breakers." Sound cool? If you want to scare Baha'is, be a "Covenant Breaker." They have magic powers.
-- Shallow notions of what the Baha'i faith is and religion is
-- Mendacity, coverup of founding texts and figures
-- Worship of bodies, races, buildings, the world, externality
-- United around race and nation-destruction.
I'd rather see united families, & many religions with various unities and plexuses -- i.e. interesting, vital world -- than one shallow non-religion that is Baha'i. What's described in the Aqdas is a real religion. The B. Faith is not.
Mrs. Quantum solutions has used her journalistic and university education attempting to create a conspiratorial view of the Baha'i Faith. Seekers of the truth should realize that throughout the history of the Faith, there have been many attempts from within and without the Faith to damage this solid message for the humankind, and they have ALL failed miserably.
Most Bahai's are nice White people too nice and too naive to be conspiring. However, people at the top and in the religion's founding were conspiratorial. But basically, Baha'is are dupes being used. They were manipulated to want to be Baha'is' by television propaganda of the "Chosen People" who want to rule the world. The Bankers and Zionists are WAAAAYYY closer to ruling the world (as with Russian Communism) than the Baha'is will ever be. They'll use your buildings for offices.
Every religion before the Bahá'í Faith has disintegrated and has become corrupted by the self-appointed institutions meant to "guide their religion's adherents," or something of that nature. When did Moses bring more than 10 Commandments and give the Pharisees their authority? When did Jesus authorize the papacy? When did Muhammad authorize the Caliphate? Bahá'u'lláh is the first Manifestation of God to create an Administrative Order to avoid the disunity that has plagued an oppressed humanity.
How could the Baha'i Faith ever become the Baha'i Faith when it's "Book of Laws" (Most Holy Book) was kept away from the followers for some 150 years? The Baha'i Faith never actually ever got started. Because the Marxists who wanted to promote it as a race-destroying and nation-destroying religion hid the book. They knew the movement would not then grow, because people would be appalled at the book. So there was nothing ever to "corrupt," because the Baha'i Faith never even landed!
@xplosivelilly Bahá'ís cannot teach the Bahá'í Faith in Israel. Israelis can become Bahá'í, however, an organized community of Israeli Bahá'ís does not exist. Bahá'ís have not been allowed to teach the Faith in Israel since the time of Bahá'u'lláh. All of the Bahá'í Communities that did exist in Israel disappeared as the Bahá'ís were/are instructed to emigrate and teach the Faith in other lands. Only the Bahá'í World Centre remains in Israel.
@xplosivelilly Bahá'ís obey Bahá'u'lláh's command not to teach in Israel. Independent Investigation of Truth is a principle of the Bahá'í Faith. If you wish to find out the reasons why, the Bahá'í Writings are there for people with questions to get answers. The Bahá'í Reference Library ( reference.bahai.org ) has a good portion of the Bahá'í Writings, compilations, and historical accounts that you will need to answer that question.
What good is "independent investigation of truth" when you suppress basic texts? Then when you publish them, fill them full of man-made fodder and bullshit and basically abrogate and invalidate those texts as meaningless.
In the Most Holy Book Baha'u'llah says that a thief should have a permanent mark put on his forhead (tattoo/brand), and that the believers should not be softies about it.
He says if somebody deliberately burns down a house, he should be burned.
@DivineFellowship The punishment for arson is death - not burning. The punishment you speak of is on the eyebrow. If you want the Writings to be translated, please try and translate them then. The Bahá'í Revelation works according to a Divine Plan that has been pre-ordained, and plans created by the governing body for the Bahá'ís help the community progress further.
The Writings of Bahá'u'lláh are clear, and He has authorized 'Abdu'l-Bahá to interpret the text because people don't understand.
Earl E. Elder, PhD, DD and William McE. Miller, MA, DD translated it as "forehead." They were Arabic scholars, the lead translator had lived in Arabia many years, both were familiar with early Bahai's and students of the movement, and they translated it "forehead." I am sure that the slippery Baha'i "administration" used every device at its disposal to "soften" the text, including substituting "eyebrown" for "forehead." But what's the difference, really? In short, do you have a point? No.
Dissembler: "The punishment for arson is death - not burning."
Don't play games. Obviously death was the intended result of the burning. His simple statement in the Kitab-i-Aqdas is:
"Whoever burns a house intentionally, burn him."
Kill him by burning him. Pretty hard for two Arabic scholars to get that simple statement wrong. Your "Most Holy Book" also states: "Whoever kills a person with intent, kill him." So yeah, the Most Great Gnome was big on the death penalty. You got that right.
"The Bahá'í Revelation works according to a Divine Plan..."
The Baha'i propaganda rollout works according to promotional principles adhered to by political-minded leader/marketers. That's why it DOESN'T grow, because it's fake, a dead religion. If they had followed the Aqdas (taken it seriously) from the start, it would be a respectable religion. At this time it is not a respectable religion, but a joke.
I know. He said "Whoever burns a house intentionally, burn him."
Very clear.
"He has authorized 'Abdu'l-Bahá to interpret the text because people don't understand."
What's to "interpret" about the above? A sorry "Book of Laws" to need such massive alteration. Many of B's statements in that book were to the effect of "I'm putting this plainly, don't mess with it." Are you not aware that 'Abdu'l-Baha is dead? What's it say about cloning, by the way?
@ramindjame -- Sore loser about what? You guy's are the ones stuck with an absurd Book of Laws.
"Qualified to interpret?" What's to "interpret" about "Whoever burns a house intentionally, burn him"? When did Baha'is become shysters and double-talkers? (That's what you get, I guess, from not having your own scripture for 150 years.) And when did Baha'is become people who couldn't spell? I thought u ppl were all into education n stuff.
@DivineFellowship The punishment for arson is either the death penalty or life imprisonment. The details of the law such as the degree of the offence and the circumstances are to be taken into account to decide which of the two sentences is to be selected has been left to the Universal House of Justice. the Universal House of Justice has written, "In relation to arson, this depends on what 'house' is burned."
Any issues, like cloning, are to be decided by the Universal House of Justice.
@ABahaiPointGroup -- But that's not what the Book of Laws actually says. It also says nothing about the eyebrow, but the forhead. (I have no idea why you an eyebrow is so different.) Not much good to have an "original text" (as Baha'is like to brag about) if the first thing you do is ignore it; the 2nd thing you do is start changing it and misrepresenting it. You Baha'is are the most mendacious and cravenly stupid set of twits I've ever laid eyes on.
@DivineFellowship i fully understand what israel really is. But freedom of religion is still allowed as far as i know of. Most jews there aren't even religious
The same reason Israelis are not allowed to marry not (ethnic) Jews, and non-(ethnic) Jews are not allowed to live in Israel. The Jews do not want their Jews leaving Judaism. Simple. The Baha'is in Israel (canny and smart politicians) do not allow it so that they can stay on that mountain and be left alone. It's probably one of the reasons they are able to be there. For the face of the Rabbis/Israelis, the Baha'is say "We won't allow it." But it's really the Rabbinate/Israelis who want the rule.
@cottoncandicane -- Basically, yup. I was in it for about 15 years. It only made sense to me because of prior brainwashing from TV about what the "world problems" were (not).
I think the main objective of the Bahai faith is to stop this unnecessary cruelty towards other people merely for believing in a different God, what is so wrong with that? I personally hold myself to no religion, and never will, because I do not see the need, If there is a God and I am a good person in this life then I believe I will be rewarded for it in the afterlife, if there is one.
@cbrumrun not true you have had access to the scripture yet denied jesus christ you will have had your reward here on earth. Jesus said the only way to the father was through me.
@k12rising -- Does Jesus get to have only one name? (Even though people can have many names.) If somebody comes up to you and says "My name's Jesus" do you worship him?
@cbrumrun: u don't know much about internal workings of Bahai. There's NO place 4 LGBT people there. Ur told to part from your loved one & give up "the lifestyle," or u lose ur voting rights & eventually ur "membership." NOT TO MENTION Bahai censorship! Im 4 FREEDOM of religion, including for Bahais in Iran (no brainer there!) AND I can't bear the thought of Bahai being "the" world relig. I KNOW! I was part of that mess for 20 yrs, left because couldn't take the narrow-mindedness & hypocrisy!
@GreenRad2012 -- One good thing about the Baha'i Faith, back when I was in it, was that they took a hard line against sexual deviancy. Once they stop doing that I'll know they are thoroughly corrupted. I predict they will become corrupt in that area. When I left it, most young Baha'i people were very affected by the mass culture and were really not much different than any other kids, including all the vices: drugs, sex, and the rest. It's probably worse now.
I grew up in a country with many different Christian churches, and I never once saw "cruelty" by one White European to another over religion. And the churches were always open, 24-7, all night. Now that the Baha'is and other Marxists and dupes brought us "diversity," my old towns not a friendly place any more, and the churches are locked up tight. Thanks dumbasses.
All religions are the same, IMHO the Bahai faith is merely trying to teach that to people who may not understand. I don't believe any religions are true but there are thousands if not millions of people that have died at the hands of religion or difference in religion.
@cbrumrun -- There are faaarr more people who have died because of Jewish banker wars than because of religion. The past 200 years in White Christian America death because of religion is an extreme rarity.
All religions are not the same. If you think so, you have not studied them at all.
1.) When you are born you get a number, when you learn to drive you get a number, why is this number a problem?
2. ) When you become a Christian you must be babtized, when you become a Jew you must have a Mitzvah. Next to that an interview seems kind of tame.
3.) The Baha'is do have strict systems in place to deal with Baha'is who preach against the faith. This is because in the past those people have sought to incite nations to exterminate Baha'is.
@cottoncandicane saying others are educated enough to make their "OWN" decisions is imposing my opinion on others?! we are living in a world, that information passes around very quickly, and people are bright enough to do independent research and find things out based on their own knowledge... how did i impose my own opinion on others?!
@DivineFellowship i don't need to get a dictionary because I already know what the term "BIAS VIEW" means... i think you are the one in need of a dictionary
@AbuHamzaBinSaif Have you met a Baha'í? By the way, I read the history of these people, and the only thing I see is hate and persecution from Muslims, and even some Christians. What these people did? They just forgive them, and stood strong with their faith while Muslims killed them. I wonder who mades me throw up? The Baha'í's or the people that persecute them? I know my answer.
@NobiscumDeus1 -- I have met 100s of Baha'is. Oddly, they all have similar traits. They are very nice, very well-meaning, very shallow, and very programmed to need the Baha'i Faith (and even miscegenation) to make themselves feel like they are good and noble. They are sad.
@DivineFellowship Oh Christians, you people are almost like muslims. You all think that every religion is bullshit except yours. Christians are pathetic and entirely deluded. They are the worst hypocrites in the planet as they say good messages, and at the end the actions are the worst. Christians are the central comedy of my life as I live with thousands of them around me.
The Babis excelled in sedition, havoc, carrying out battles with each other and with Muslims. The first major persecutions of these people came when a few of them tried to murder their king. When a little cult tries to murder a king of a nation that group deserves persecution. The reason Biker Man (Baha'u'llah) and his crew were exiled and continuously moved around is because everywhere they went their was conflict, intrigues, murders, etc. The government got sick of it. You are deluded.
@DivineFellowship The reason they wanted to murder the king was because they were being persecuted by them. Even Christians and Jews tried to do this to their Roman leaders as they were being persecuted by them! Baha'u'llah was condemn because of his beliefs, which contradicted many muslim beliefs. Do you have evidence Baha'u'llah murdered someone? Your delusion is entire. You're another comedy for me.
Do you seriously not know what an Obelisk is?Or was that sarcasm,if it wasn't,then that shows your credibility.
Gixxiemoto 1 week ago
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The Bah'i Book of Laws forbids men to shave their heads but commands them to "wear sable just as you wear silk and squirrel skin." Most men when going bald hate it and feel they look better for the ladies if they shave their head. They look younger. They'd probably rather do that and skip the sable, silk, and squirrel skin.
The Baha'i Book of Laws -- which they say is our guidance for a thousand years -- also forbids men to have hair below their ears.
No more Beatles!
BookOfFlaws 1 week ago
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waiotahi52 1 week ago
He Who speaks the Word, Who said, "Before Abraham was, I am", was also before Jesus, for Abraham was before Jesus. When God speaks His Word to us, we must listen, for He said, "My sheep know My voice." - O Son of Being! Thy heart is My home; sanctify it for My descent. Thy spirit is My place of revelation; cleanse it for My manifestation. from the Hidden Words of Baha'u'llah - When I read these Holy Words, I hear His voice
fsmtdaler 2 weeks ago
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@fsmtdaler If your actions here are the result of your beliefs, you have given me an insight to the alternatives to this Faith.It appears to me, and several others who have observed this encounter that you have become bitter, mean, a fanatic and a hypocrite. Is this what you have to offer?
By their fruits ye shall know them. I have decided to become a Baha'i.
And get a life.
As-Salāmu `Alaykum
And yes I have posted this more than once,I want everyone to know.
waiotahi52 1 week ago
@fsmtdaler -- Then chant your mantra with devotion. That's one of the ways Baha'is can purify their hearts. It's the heart of the Baha'i Faith. (Even though for 150 years your "adiminstration" told them not to do it.)
BookOfFlaws 1 week ago
@happygraceful: praise God, what great hope and assurance we have in Jesus, other beliefs say do do do, Jesus said done, he did what we could not do and now we live for him out of love and gratitude rather than obligation and pressure, his Name be forever praised!
mrheartlandroofing 3 weeks ago
Amen bro! Jesus set me FREE!! He gave his life for me:) JESUS I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!
mrheartlandroofing 1 month ago
@mrheartlandroofing Fuck off
markiiee90 3 weeks ago
@mrheartlandroofing: as a former Baha'i turned Christian: God Bless you. Praise Jesus for He is the one and only Son of God and gave His life so that I shall be blessed with everlasting salvation. Amen
happygraceful 3 weeks ago
@happygraceful -- Gurus always take on karma for their devotees. But the true heart of Christianity is God-search so you can get love-of-God. (Jesus' "Greatest Law.")
I am a former Baha'i who turned Hindu yogi. The Baha'i Faith helped teach me about the devotional attitude towards God that Jesus is asking Christians for in Luke 10:27.
God search and felt love-of-God from God-experience is the true essence of the better religions.
BookOfFlaws 1 week ago
Yeah, this is so bogus. I could smell it from a long way off.. I believe in Jesus only because He came to me first, showed me who he is. I was not looking for him, he just took me as his own, loved me and showed me that i belong to him alone. Nothing can change the love i know.
persevere67 1 month ago
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"The worlds youngest religion: the bahai faith"...This phrase says it all. People invent religion and "faith" according to the current events and environment. So this is really pure BULLSHIT. Fuck religion. Never works for nothing good.
NVOLIKOS 1 month ago
your both wrong---they are both part of the vatican---the vatican is the golbal religion --they just decreed that they are the central religion and anything that defies this would be dealt with
these are another part of the illuminatis and massonry ---only in another part of the globe
Tony
HerbsPlusBeadWorks 2 months ago
Why not Christianity? They are the ones with all the money and power, dropping all the bombs, forcing all the taxes, enslaving the entire world, imprisioning or deposing for non compliance. Christians have the most banal beliefs that are so easily injected into young minds, preying upon man's childish desire for a savior, most often ensuring a lifetime of servitude and blind worship. If I was NWO, I would use Christianity, it is already "rolled out" and has most of the world presently duped.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
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madmanmantra 2 months ago
With the exception of bringing David Kelly to attention, most of this video is weak out of context bull crap way to attack the Bahai Faith. May suggest start with the life of Baha'u'llah: elitist Persian royalty where he is not only entitled to be a polygamist, but much obliged to take 3 wives, and the notion that everyone must seek parental consent for marriage monogamously? This is another version of a cock blocking Abrahamic dynasty religion.
madmanmantra 2 months ago
I'm not going to have to make a choice in what to believe in, because It's right in front of me. The Holy Bible, and if anyone says they have read it and there's lies and what not....then they know nothing about what it really is.... It is about God and putting him before everything else for he is a jealous God and he openly admits it.....There is no hiding the truth with God, just Love.
MrSpOoKsAlOt 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship as for your opinion of the members of the Universal House of Justice that's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it... just a note though they have no power as individuals they only have authority when they meet and through consultation come to a decision. Take care now!
Payamos 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship Thanks for the reply, Though you are right about others with less than noble aspirations having more progress on NWO I personally believe that they are laying the frame work for a true NWO in which unity in diversity will be the main aspiration. A NWO that is less sinister and more a necessary step towards the progress of the human race. I believe that in the end they will not rule what they built but the people will and lovers of freedom and peace will inherit it all. peace
Payamos 2 months ago
I cant believe this video still gets viewed. A woman barely investigates something with petty conspiracy theories poorly researched.... do you know that this will literally put innocent people in iran in danger by feeding lies?
wingeyes 2 months ago
I've grown up in Bahai communities throughout yuppy white and persian immigrants in America who shove that tear jerking bull shit about the poor opressed Bahais in Iran, yet these same yuppy BAHAIS don't GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEIR OWN FUCKING CHILDREN being left alone with pedophiles, AND THEN they push this bizaar parental consent law up these same children's asses. FUCK YOU.!
madmanmantra 2 months ago
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That translation was by Elder and Miller, Arabic scholars (the first an author of an Arabic grammar) with no axe to grind or agenda except to translate the text accurately.
The words speak for themselves about how Baha'u'llah thought, what the Baha'i religion is like. It would be sad for him to see that all he's got now is a bunch of twits who don't LIKE his book, want to misrepresent it, and use every loophole imaginable. In the case of the branding, Baha emphasized: 'Don't flake on this.'
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
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Here it is:
"Whoever burns a house intentionally, kill him." (Paragraph)
"Whoever kills a person with intent, kill him."
(Paragraph)
"Take the ordinances of God with hands of power and might. Then desert the ordinances of the ignorant." [He's emphasizing: Do this. Don't flake out.] "If you condemn them (the arsonist or murderer) to perpetual prison, you have no no harm according to the Book. Indeed, He is the Ruler over what He desires." [If you want to be flakes you can do that.]
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
By the way, the White European peoples are too beautiful, and too noble, to let the Baha'i Faith destroy them. Baha'is, go to hell.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
Baha'is make a mockery of the Baha-Biker man by carrying on as if nothing he said is to be taken seriously or as he said it. Like, I guess, the "manifestation of God" got everything wrong and said everything wrong. Despite all his hyperbolic fulminations.
"Say! This Is What the Primal Peroogee Hath Decreed From his Most August Crib, Crux of all Confibulations! Take Heed that ye not be of the Mordantly Malefic, Lest Thee Muddle and be of the Mendacious!" Still they don't take him seriously.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
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ramindjame 2 months ago
@ramindjame -- I'm not interested in "Buddhist functions." Also, Buddhist functions don't feature spirited and typed debates on religion. Sorry if you don't like sparks.
Say: By the daystar of Ram-Jamindian Glory beneath the Yewtubian Place of Disremembrance, I have manifested the Mystery of the Overturning of the Chief! Blessed be he among the Near ones who makes one damned lick of sense."
The Beauteous Biker of Baha
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
Don't spew jive, bud. Don't Baha'is continually call for a "New World Order" and have books with that title? Don't Baha'is intend to be the world government? The law? The amoral stance Baha'i take of being "non political" (no opinion about anything important, no moral influence) -- is to save their little asses from trouble. If they took a moral stand they grow more. Most moral issues end up discussed politically. Then Baha'is can't talk about that. So it means Baha'is basically are irrevelant.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@Tom101229 -- Baha'i can't be two centuries old in the west, because the Baha'is never even got their Book of Laws until a few years ago. Then even now, they don't follow it. (Do the Baha'i women do that special chant all day whenever they are having a period?) So really, the Baha'i Faith has never even started in the west. It died in the east. What we have now is a Marxist-inspired deracination and nation-killing cultural movement called the Baha'i Faith.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
The anti-technology Founders believed science should be SUBJECT to religion; that it should comport with; conform to, religious values. The Baha'i PR men trimmed this idea to the phrase "The harmony of science and religion." Today Baha'is take that to mean the opposite of the founders' attitude: They think it means religion cannot/should not not hamper science; that there can be no conflict between the two. (I have met Baha'is who think this.) So the teaching ended up backwards in Baha'i heads.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship "You have not studied enough religions, or probably even any one religion, to be able to call them all "BS." You're pure BS, bud."
= wishful thinking. If you spent more time critically thinking istead of protecting your giant ego, you might actualy learn something. All the older relgiions originate from animistic beliefs, without exception. Religious people ignore the fact there is plenty of hard evidence proving that fact. Ostridge syndrome. lol
Valthepixie 2 months ago
@Valthepixie -- "istead of protecting your giant ego,"
My comments here are about the Baha'i Faith, not myself. I have spent a lot of time, in fact, posting quotes from your Most Holy Book. That's about me? Or is it about you?
"...you might actualy learn something."
Funny. No doubt my study of this topic exceeds yours. I started studying it approx. 35 yrs. ago, so avidly interested I located an Aqdas in English. You don't even comprehend the Sufi and Islamic aspects of your own religion.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship "My comments here are about the Baha'i Faith, not myself. I have spent a lot of time, in fact, posting quotes from your Most Holy Book."
You must have mistaken me for one of those idiots who believe in dark age middle eastern myths. It's not my "Most Holy Book". I need no such thing to cherry pick through in order to be good.
""istead of protecting your giant ego," and "you might actualy learn something." Were both in reference to your purile insults.
Valthepixie 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship "my study of this topic exceeds yours." ROFL, you should really do something about your giant ego. You know nothing about me, your assumption of superiority is pure ego.. The only thing you seem to know is how to insult people. You seem to think everyone believes in the same dark age codswallop. "You don't even comprehend the Sufi and Islamic aspects of your own religion.".
ALL the old religions orginate from ancient Animism, without exception. Provable fact.
Valthepixie 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship "My comments here are about the Baha'i Faith, not myself.."Liar, I never knew the Baha'i version of the unsubstantiated involved insulting everyone at every available opportunity. You've spoken about nothing except your own superior knowlege to massage your own ego.
Valthepixie 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship You wan't to talk philosophy then answer this... If your deity is all knowing that includes knowledge of the future. So, how can you change the known ?
If you answer 'you can't change the known', then there is no such thing as feewill. If you answers 'with your freewill', then there is no such thing as omniscience. They are opposing absolutes. Omniscience + freewill = Oxymoron.
Valthepixie 2 months ago
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DivineFellowship 2 months ago
"All the older relgiions originate from animistic beliefs, without exception."
All religions emerge from consciousness, like the rest of the transient external world-dream. Hey, sorry, you get the religion you deserve, bud. It's ok that your worldview is vacant. Religion isn't "the past." "Past stories" are part of the transient miasm, found to be malleable, changing. (This is Vedanta, a religion over your head.) You need to get out more, kid. (Sorry, but as a philosopher you are adolescent.)
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship "All religions emerge from consciousness, like the rest of the transient external world-dream...". = New age tree hugger crap.
topdocumentaryfilms (dot) com/the-naked-truth/ A proffesional doctoral film, 2 hours long and packed full of facts and nothing but the facts.
Valthepixie 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship "All religions emerge from consciousness" = man invents giant invisible fairy story characters to make up for his ignorance.
Valthepixie 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship "your worldview is vacant." Pft oh yeh Every atom in your body came from a star that exploded. And the atoms in your left hand probably came from a different star than your right hand. The elements, the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron, all the things that matter for evolution were created in the nuclear furnaces of stars. And the only way they could get into your body is if the stars were kind enough to explode. So forget Jesus. The stars died so you could live.
Valthepixie 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship "you get the religion you deserve / a religion over your head / You need to get out more, kid./ Sorry, but as a philosopher you are adolescent." " See there you go again insulting people again... how to win friends and influence people, volume 1. You think your'e a philosopher... *rolls eyes*
Do your self a favor, go back to school and pay atttention, that way we can all leave the dark ages where they belong. ;)
Valthepixie 2 months ago
The Bab was anti-technology. One of the cool things about him. This from Arabic scholar Earl E. Elder who lived long in Persia:
"The Bab expected that a Babi State would be established in Iran...All non-Babi books must be burned...the sciences and philosophy must not be studied. Foreign travel was forbidden." (It required technology.) Baha'u'llah also had an anti-technology stance. ("We have heard that an infernal engine hath been devised...its fire shall consume the cities.") -- Cont.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@TranshumanCyborg -- The Baha'i Faith is as authoritarian as the Catholic Church. Not that authority's a bad thing. It's just that they suppress leadership and individual initiative, and don't have a Pope. So that makes them boring and makes sure they don't grow, but instead just churn new members into a growing pile of disaffected members (on the rolls). The Baha'is keep pumping new blood into a corpse of 90 percent dead names on their lists, which keeps growing.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@CandlesOfUnityPro -- It says the folks should educate the child. Not FedGov. Not Zog. Not some homosexual at the public school. Not some lesbian. Not some feminism. Better for a child to learn wholesomeness, how to do real things, garden, carpentry, how to create and manufacture things -- than all the worthless crap and social indoctrination in the Zog-schools. Many of the girls are turning lesbian now because of the "culture" of the Fed schools. Keep your kids at home.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@articzoo -- Cults are good. We need more cults. The government has all their cults. Cults are where cult-ture gets cultivated. Christianity starte as a cult. ("The Cult of the Nazarene," the Romans called it..) Cults are good.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
MY SUMMARY: The Founder was an Islamic sort; the religion very Islamic. They were basically sufis, Islamic mystics. All mystics tend to say something about "oneness of humanity" or universal brotherhood. So did beh-HAW-oh-LAW (correct pronuc.). Though not more than the average mystic. It appears that Communist types hijacked the thing and whipped the "universal brotherhood" aspect into its main message, creating a kind of deracination and de-culturing machine, jettisoning the Islamic aspects.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship The Founder wasn't "an Islamic sort"; He was Muslim. Christ was Jewish. What's your point.
Kaath9 2 months ago
Intelligent study there. I was involved with them many years, then grew, then saw the false aspects, which are significant. My basic motivation was religious seeker; seeker of religious knowledge. White people have been their bulwark. Those who come into it are those fed a particular program (via TV, etc.) about what "the problems" are in the world. They think things like race conflict, or religious conflict, are "big problems." They join it seeing it as the solution to those (false) problems.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship I was going to just let this lie, but your view of the Faith is so bizarre and non-factual that I have to comment. According to the scriptures you say we don't read (and which can be found in most Baha'i homes) race, religious and class bigotry are merely symptoms of deeper problems, not the source of the world's ills. You've demonstrated the racial symptoms yourself. I joined the Faith because the words of Baha'u'llah in 7 Valleys, the Iqan and Hidden Words especially, woke me
Kaath9 2 months ago
I've never heard anyone turn the idea of universal education, loyalty to government and pacifism into a bogey man before.
When I was investigating the Baha'i Faith, I hit the Baha'is with the standard anti-Christ, your mind is a tool of the devil speech. And I think I may even have snarled at them that unity was a bad thing ... then I heard how absurd that sounded in context with the teachings of Christ.
Kaath9 2 months ago
"I've never heard anyone turn the idea of universal education, loyalty to government and pacifism into a bogey man before."
You haven't? Lots of people know that utopian promises like that are the standard bait of totalitarians, Communists, and evildoers. The rank-and-file Baha'is are more stupid than evil. Bent by their TV sets into obsessing on a set of False Problems. The Baha'i marketing package offers "answers" to their TV-stoked pain. (Which they feel because they are nice White people.)
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
"I may even have snarled at them that unity..."
"Unity": Abused term. What's it mean? Let's explore. First, unity is BOR-ing. The human mind tires of it quickly. The human mind generates diversity, difference, oppositions to "feel life" (creates the world, nature.) Nobody actually WANTS a monolithic reality; a one-dimensional state. When B's say they "want unity," they really want relief, for their empathizing hearts, from the conflicts they see depicted in media. They want a good feeling.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
A "good feeling" is not the same thing as "unity." Unity is a cosmic state of complete oneness, finality, cessation of movement. We each have that nightly in dreamless sleep (according to the Upanishads), where we are fused with Brahman, the mass of consciousness. We stir from it because we are bored. We want the world of differences, dramas, conflicts, resolutions, chase and gain, loss, evolution. When Baha'is say they want "unity," they really want "good feelings" by seeing elements interact.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
I'm amazed that quantumsolutions managed to completely miss how the Faith actually spread and instead "theorizes" that it's like a product roll out. The only difference in the spread of faith now and, say, at the time of Christ is the means of communication and the speed of travel.
And tho' she's used all sorts of emotionally loaded language (what a foreboding building!) I also thank her for teaching the Faith. She's probably caused quite a few folks to investigate for themselves.
Kaath9 2 months ago
"completely miss how the Faith actually spread and instead "theorizes" that it's like a product roll out."
I was a Baha'i many years & promoted it. Her description is canny. The B. Faith is indeed exactly like a product rollout. Maybe not as much with early spreaders, but even then marketing strategy was there. Now, they actually hire ad agencies. As a product rollout, the BF took ideas designed to appeal to progressives and hoisted them as a "religion," leaving out most of the real religion.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
"She's probably caused quite a few folks to investigate for themselves." --
Just don't direct their attention to the actual Baha'i scriptures. Especially not the "Most Holy Book."
Baha'u'llah in the Most Holy Book of Laws:
""Wear sable (sammur) just as you wear silk and squirrel-skin and other things."
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
THIS LADY, DUE TO WHATEVER AGENDA SHE HAS, HAS TRIED PATHETICALLY TO CREATE A CONSPIRACY THEORY OUT OF THE BAHA'I FAITH - ALL BAHA'I BOOKS AND INSTITUTIONS ARE OPEN FOR ANY SINCERE SEEKERS TO SEARCH AND INVESTIGATE FOR THEMSELVES!
irajkhodadoost 2 months ago
Well, the International Bankers, the Zionists who bought Israel and set up Hitler to create Israel, do have a conspiracy going on. And the naive, sincere, stupid Baha'is serve them. Obviously, the reason the Rothschilds allow the Baha'is to have their Center in Israel is because Baha'is are promoting the same Marxist agenda that they are: Deracinating, de-nationizing, de-culturing, and de-Christianizing the people. This is what the Bankers/Communists want. Baha'is stupidly help them with this.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
"ALL BAHA'I BOOKS AND INSTITUTIONS ARE OPEN FOR ANY SINCERE SEEKERS TO SEARCH AND INVESTIGATE FOR THEMSELVES!"
Not so. The "institutions" suppressed the Most Holy Book (Book of Laws) for 150 years, not letting the westerners see it, saying it "hasn't been translated yet," though it was. That because if people had seen what the religion and laws was really like, they would have found it repellent and ridiculous. Then when they put it out, it was padded with crap to basically invalidate it all.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
Baha'is are big on banning books. They regularly steal so-called "covenant breaker" books from libraries. At least they used to. I used to live with an early Baha'i named Ruth Moffett. When I worked on her estate she had a pile of no-no books that she had stolen from libraries over the years so nobody could read them. Baha'is cover up their embarassing history, starting with the fact that early Baha'is murdered a lot of the Babi's would wouldn't follow Baha'u'llah, and many other scandals.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
The reason, in fact, that governments were always sending Baha'u'llah and his crew to different places was because wherever the Babis/Baha'is were located, their was havoc, sedition, and mayhem. The religion certainly wasn't born in a "peace" cradle. If it wasn't some of them trying to kill the shah, or battling it out with Muslims, they were trying to kill each other off. Poisonings, stabbings. For this reason governments worked together to keep them isolated or distant from their populations.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
where Bahai' s reside or live the behave is also meant to mean to respect the laws of that country.
markyaz1968 3 months ago
@markyaz1968 -- Typical Baha'i bromide. This started because Baha'is were always causing so much trouble, and in so much trouble with the governments, Baha'u'llah was trying to make one stand in one place without getting kicked out again. Now it amounts to Baha'is being amoral; having no view or opinion upon a great many urgent moral and ethical outrages in our various governments. They say "We don't get involved in politics." That means they cop out on life and have no moral influence any more.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
Dear Friend:
Thank you so much for letting people know that Baha'u'llah has come! He is the Lord of Hosts come down with ten thousands of saints. He is the Father of Christ returned with His Son, Abdu'l-Baha. We are so blessed in this wondrous day.
As Baha'u'llah says, "Great indeed is this Day! The allusions made to it in all the sacred scriptures as the Day of God attest its greatness."
GeorgeFarideh 3 months ago
@GeorgeFarideh -- What does "Lord of Hosts" mean? Did Baha'u'llah fly in the sky with angels?
Why does he look like a surly biker or the brother of Charles Manson?
Why was he 4 feet tall?
Why did he always call himself "the Blessed Beauty" though he was a scowling imp?
Why do you call this a "great and wondrous day" when it's the Porn Age, age of the abortion holocaust, body piercing, genocidal wars like in Iraq and Libya, and economic destruction? What's so wondrous about this "day"?
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship "And if ye be in doubt as to that which We have sent down to Our Servant, then produce a Surah like it, and summon your witnesses, beside God, if ye are men of truth." Likewise, He saith: "Such are the verses of God: with truth do We recite them to Thee. But in what revelation will they believe, if they reject God and His verses?"
This is the fire which kindleth the flame of love in the breasts of the faithful and induceth the chill of heedlessness in the heart of the enemy.
GeorgeFarideh 2 months ago
You're all into Surahs? My teenage daughter writes better Surahs. Here, you want some more of his inanities to ponder:
"Take care not to approach the bath-houses of the Iranians. Whoever goes towards them discovers their stinking odour even before entering them. O People, avoid them and be not of the ignomious. It is like pus, and purulent matter, if you be among those who know."
-- Kitab-i-Aqdas, Most Holy Book, Luminous Guidance To Last Mankind a 1,000 Years
Fulminating, inane rubbish.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
Here, read some Surahs that will do you some religious good:
YogaSutras●Com
Find out what religion actually is.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
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ramindjame 2 months ago
That's the technic used by the Islamic Government of Iran: take clips\speeches out of context and present under a different light. Pretty sad that you need to do a "debat" with a person who passed away! You should be fair and sit down with a Baha'i (who is alive!) and bring up all your "concerns", including the ones in the video and let people decide!
sassaidi 3 months ago
@sassaidi -- Let people read the Baha'i "Most Great Book," "Most Holy Book," and "Book of Laws" (the Kitab-i-Aqdas) and decide:
"God has ordained marriage (al-nikah) for you. Beware lest you go beyond two (wives), and whoever is satisfied with one of the handmaidens, his soul is at rest and so is hers, and one does no harm in taking a virgin into his service."
Great stuff. The Mormons should love this religion.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
lol she thinks being educated is mind control lmao..
she needs the education...
4differenthumour 3 months ago 2
@4differenthumour -- So-called education is indeed mind-control. Kids learn things in school today that are both false and worthless. Schools today are used as Marxist indoctrination camps for deracination, demoralization, and de-nationalization. Yeah, education is mind-control.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship yup your one of those people that lets all conspiracy theorys go straight to your head and have NO faith in humanity... im not religious but i know if the whole world had your mentality, we are f**ked good on you champ....
4differenthumour 2 months ago 2
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I am not of the opinion that Baha's are "conspiracists." I have stated my opinion that Bahai's are more of the nature of naive people who have received too much White-guilt propaganda via media (from the Jews). Thus they were attracted to the B. Faith as a way to expatiate their "White guilty" problem and make themselves feel noble. They are a people who have been duped; 1st sold false problems, then sold a marketing package that took the place of the real religion. Read my posts, champ.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
Any religion, like Mormonism or Jehovah's Witnesses, that speak specifically about creating a one world government based around some institutional hierarchy inherent in the religions own organizational structure is probably a NWO religion
JNathanK2011 3 months ago
The Rothschilds (bankers) who indulge the Baha'is on Mount Carmel will go one of 2 ways:
1) Gradually infiltrate the organization (there have always been a great many Jews in the BF), and use it as 1 more puppet in the NWO rollout, since they're helping them with anti-race, anti-nation propaganda, maybe letting it stay "Baha'i" but relinquishing things (that's been happening since the 30's), or
2) Simply appropriate the Baha'i properties & buildings. They would make pretty Zionist offices.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
Yes, A brilliant reveling of the truth of this cult but it's one of the many hundred versions of the New Age that resides in India. Dozens of people there calling themselves Jesus like David Ike & worshiped like gods like. Created by H.P. Blavatsky. Written when she only had a 6 grade education because she was told by a spirit guide Koot Humi(Satan). Then she wrote (witch you should read) "The Secret Doctrine". Bahai is one of the many who preach another gospel another spirit another Jesus!
Phalystrix 4 months ago
If there only is one god.
then all religion speaks the truth
TheCyrusification 4 months ago 3
@TheCyrusification -- What about religions cooked up by idiots or rotters? Like Scientology, created by Science Fiction writer El Ron Hubbard just to prove he could get rich by starting a religion.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
OK...Your smarmy hmms and umms are a bit annoying but I digress. I do want to point out it is NOT Revelations...it's a Revelation.
TheGiarcC 4 months ago
I dig her. She's smart. I like her hmmms and umms. As a former deluded Baha'i, it's very refreshing to see a smart white woman finally dissect this crap, and not from a blind "fundy" point of view, but just from the pov of a smart White woman who doesn't want to be ruled by a banker cryptocracy. The B. Faith is a secret cancer in our society, basically, that is teaching people at the grass roots to de-racinate themselves and de-nation themselves, precisely what the NWO bankers want.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@QUANTUMSOLUTIONS: I think you show a lack of transparency in not disclosing that you're Muslim & how this -may- affect your opinion about Bahai. You've a right to your opinion, of course, & we all have the RIGHT to our religion (Islam, Bahai, Xtian, whatever) BUT you also have the obligation tell your viewers that you're a member of a community which sometimes persecutes Bahais. I'm a former Bahai; I had an ugly experience & state this up front. Your viewers deserve no less openess from you.
GreenRad2012 4 months ago
@GreenRad2012 -- The Muslims had a right to persecute the early Baha'is (Babis) after they tried to kill their king. I think they also have a right to persecute Baha'is for subversion of their traditional religion, creating reforms that simply lead to materialism, feminism, and that rot. If the Muslims saw how much the western Baha'is actually cover up the Islamic reality of their religion, and sell it as race-mixing and "one world" crap for Marxists, they'd probably persecute Baha'is more.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
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ramindjame 2 months ago
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I never did drugs. Never even drank beer. )I'll bet you do drugs, or drink.) What point did I make that you disagree with, clown? That Baha'is suppressed the "Book of Laws" 140 years? Or was it 150?
"If a difference occurs when a man travels with his wife, he must pay the expenses for a full year and return her to the abiding-place from which she came or entrust her to some faithful person and (provide) what she needs for the journey to get to her place."
You people doing this yet?
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
":Lo! The Father hath come..."
fsmtdaler 4 months ago
@fsmtdaler -- Yeah. Check out the photos of Baha'u'llah. Do you want that man to be your father?
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
Hi quantumsolutions. A rollout? I think you should study the history of Bahá'í and you will realize that it is anything but. 20,000 souls have given their lives, not fighting but just for refusing to disassociate themselves from their belief in the Báb and Bahá'u'lláh over a hundred years ago in Persia. Yes, it has grown extraordinarily fast and yes, according to a Plan, but isn't there a plan in Nature too? Isn't it ok to assume that the establishment of God's Kingdom would be different?
rfrancett 4 months ago
You read too much of your own propaganda. Most Baha'i "growth" is fake. Their statistics are fake. One thing they do is refuse to take people off the rolls. I remember being Secretary of the "DTC" or "District Teaching Committee" in the 1970s and '80s. We had a "membership roll" of about 350 state-wide. Most we never saw and didn't know. A lot were disgruntled and wanted out. Some would snap at you if you called them. But there they stayed. Out of those 350 there were maybe 100 were real.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
There is an incredible "churn" rate in the Baha'i membership. If I were to go back to Des Moines, Iowa, where I was a very active Baha'i for many years, I'd likely see very few people left from the old days, though they were young. It would be all new. Take me, I withdrew from it & became decidedly inactive 20 years ago and I think it's ridiculous. Thankfully, I no longer get mail from them. But guess what? I'm one of their membership statistics. I'd say 3-quarters of Baha'i membership is bogus.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
So much propaganda here it's not even funny. Interesting that the person who made this video chose to skip all the spiritual teachings of the religion so that everything is out of context. For example, compulsory education is for the betterment of the world if you think about all the people, mainly female, who in much of the world are not allowed to be educated. Without all people being educated how can we achieve true equality? When some people are left out, they cannot make informed decisions.
lyncap99 4 months ago
-- The Baha'i Faith has very little for spiritual teachings, and the actual day-to-day Baha'i culture is anti-spiritual and anti-mystical.
-- Compulsory education in America is a creation of the Communist Marxists. (That's why it's son the Baha'i list.) Homeschooling produces better results socially, academically, and morally. There is NOTHING about "compulsory education" in the Book of Laws.
-- A female is not made a better mother by learning physics, engineering, etc. Likely the opposite.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
-- Nobody wants "true equality." It is boring. We want cheap cigars, expensive cigars, and green ones too.
-- "True equality" is impossible because nature and karma don't allow it. There are differences in attainment, effort, experience, karmic develropment, and character. You can't make anything equal, or if you do it does not stay equal for long.
-- The best education doesn't come from institutions, especially those designed to demoralize and dumb down the people, like Federal schools.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@lyncap99 -- In today's society the more people are "educated" in the cultural Marxist schools, the less informed are their decisions. The "education" is designed to influence their decisions in service to the bankers and Marxist one-world-order control freaks.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
All the bahai people i've met are so kind and caring. Why?
broadcastyogi 4 months ago
@broadcastyogi: unless you are Queer, or a mouthy female, or have an opinion that the Bahai institutions cannot control via censorship (look it up).. then you are ostracized, marginalized, and eventually, expelled from the community. Do some research and FIND OUT about the experiences of actual people who have been =victimized= by the Bahai institutions.. then you will have a complete picture. I know because I subjected myself to it for 20 years until I could not do it any more.
GreenRad2012 4 months ago
One thing about the Baha'i culture is that it is EXTREMELY conformist. I must emphasize that. There are certain things Baha'is learn to say; and a wide range of things they are not supposed to say; interests they are not supposed to have. It is primarily tacit; you get subtle negative signs and no good feedback if you are not "with the program." I could rattle off 50 phrases that make up the whole Baha'i philosophical matrix, and which they use to try to answer every question. It's very limited.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
Example: The Holy Book says B's are to chant "Allah'u'Abha" 95 times daily. They usually don't care for it. In Hinduism it'd be "japa," a spiritual technique. Don't say japa to them! 30 years ago at a "Greenacre" a Baha'i musician held a midnight show. He taught how the Turkish Baha'is said the mantra. He had us chanting it, Blissed out! "Auxiliary Board Member" Steve Birkland walked out in protest. Others, seeing him, also left. It was "strange." Forget japa! It wasn't official Baha'i culture!
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
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@broadcastyogi: unless you are Queer, or a mouthy female, or have an opinion that the Bahai institutions cannot control via censorship (look it up).. then you are ostracized, marginalized, and eventually, expelled from the community. Do some research and FIND OUT about the experiences of actual people who have been =victimized= by the Bahai institutions.. then you will have a complete picture. I know because I subjected myself to it for 20 years until I could not do it any more.
GreenRad2012 4 months ago
Because the B. Faith attracts White people. They have good hearts and want to assuage pain of White-guilt, given by Jewtube. They join it to try to feel noble again. The Jewtube made them feel bad for being White. So the Baha'i Faith siphons off many good-hearted, noble Whites towards their self-destruction. The Marxists & bankers laugh at the death of their only obstacle. The real problems of the world are lust, family-breakdown, and lack of interest in God. Not race or religious diversity.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
I lold. Conspiracy theorists just can't stop. :D
isonomis 5 months ago
Excellent video! The Bahai fits with the Ultimate Religion of Iblis/Satan, it has been 100% engineered, is totaly New World Orderly, New Agely, Universally oriented... it has ties with the United Nations....it synthetize all the religions in 1(the wrong face of the religions...the one which has been entirely forged by the devils who have infiltrated the religions and corrupted them from the top... the True religion of Allah is contained in the ultimate Perfect Book of Allah, the Quran)
TheTruthIsFromGod 5 months ago
I think at core the B. Faith was just a weird Sufi sect run by 2 odd Sufi mystics, the Bab & Baha'u'llah (who commandered it from Subh-i-Ezel, appointed by the Bab as successor.) I think what happened is Marxist types, incl. Jews, saw the potential. Some sincere, some seeing it as a vehicle & both. Basically, "one world" idealogues, both sincere & Marxist agents, got involved and crafted it into a deracination/nation-killing, culture-destruction machine to that would attract TV-confused Whites.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
Is this a joke? And this comes from what? who? The indoctrinated educated idiots? Sounds like Children of the Sun [Israli children taken from parents and put into Kibutz']...or maybe HITLERS Aryan genetic Frankensteins.
batonpatriot 5 months ago
The reason the main Bahais say not to talk to dissidents- actaully they call them covenant breakers, is because they themselves are the covenant breakers who do not want anyone to hear the truth from a real true covenant following bahai. This religion has been corrupted by rahiyah kanuum who broke the will and testament of abdul baha by usurping the man seated on the throne of david. And implementing her own version. DANG PEOPLE! BAHAIS HAVE BEEN CORRUPTED but bahaullah is true! bupc .org
melissacarl2002 5 months ago
@melissacarl2002 -- That Bahiyih Khanum is one Uber Bitch I have to say. She scares the hell out of me. I'd hate to have to meet her. I feel sorry for that Shoghi Effendi. I'd guess that she's the reason he died young.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
\The reason the Bahai .org website is stupid and fake and corporate-like is because they are CORRUPTED ALREADY! They broke the covenant of Abdul Baha and then passed it off as the people who actually kept the covenant, were covenant breakers. The real bahai religion is at bupc . org For real I kid you not.
melissacarl2002 5 months ago
@melissacarl2002 -- The real cool times were with the Bab. Now, there was one jammin' mystic. Apparently he planned a thousand-year reich and planned to rule the world. What a freaky dude, that Bab.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
That comment about behaving sounds like obeying the law of the land
wesb686 5 months ago
Im a bahai never heard of disfellowshipping in the bahai faith and we dont call them disputes we call it consultation done in a polite manner
wesb686 5 months ago
Well, the first is "removal of administrative rights." This means you can't vote or be elected to one of their stupid "institutions." You get that sting if you're fornicating or drugging. Probably common now. Next is more serious defrockings that Baha'is talk about in whispers. 1st would be getting tagged "Enemy of the Faith." Some dumbass interviews you or whatever. Finally, you have "Covenant Breakers." Sound cool? If you want to scare Baha'is, be a "Covenant Breaker." They have magic powers.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
By the way you get the id number so you can donate and they keep track of that for your tax purposes you know so u can get a reciept crazy huh?
wesb686 5 months ago
This religion IS IS IS completely about uniting us under GOD "thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven"
wesb686 5 months ago
It's about "uniting" us under:
-- Shallow notions of what the Baha'i faith is and religion is
-- Mendacity, coverup of founding texts and figures
-- Worship of bodies, races, buildings, the world, externality
-- United around race and nation-destruction.
I'd rather see united families, & many religions with various unities and plexuses -- i.e. interesting, vital world -- than one shallow non-religion that is Baha'i. What's described in the Aqdas is a real religion. The B. Faith is not.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
Mrs. Quantum solutions has used her journalistic and university education attempting to create a conspiratorial view of the Baha'i Faith. Seekers of the truth should realize that throughout the history of the Faith, there have been many attempts from within and without the Faith to damage this solid message for the humankind, and they have ALL failed miserably.
irajkhodadoost 5 months ago
Most Bahai's are nice White people too nice and too naive to be conspiring. However, people at the top and in the religion's founding were conspiratorial. But basically, Baha'is are dupes being used. They were manipulated to want to be Baha'is' by television propaganda of the "Chosen People" who want to rule the world. The Bankers and Zionists are WAAAAYYY closer to ruling the world (as with Russian Communism) than the Baha'is will ever be. They'll use your buildings for offices.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
Every religion before the Bahá'í Faith has disintegrated and has become corrupted by the self-appointed institutions meant to "guide their religion's adherents," or something of that nature. When did Moses bring more than 10 Commandments and give the Pharisees their authority? When did Jesus authorize the papacy? When did Muhammad authorize the Caliphate? Bahá'u'lláh is the first Manifestation of God to create an Administrative Order to avoid the disunity that has plagued an oppressed humanity.
ABahaiPointGroup 5 months ago
How could the Baha'i Faith ever become the Baha'i Faith when it's "Book of Laws" (Most Holy Book) was kept away from the followers for some 150 years? The Baha'i Faith never actually ever got started. Because the Marxists who wanted to promote it as a race-destroying and nation-destroying religion hid the book. They knew the movement would not then grow, because people would be appalled at the book. So there was nothing ever to "corrupt," because the Baha'i Faith never even landed!
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
I dont hate Bahai or the religion but i do find it strange that Israelis are not allowed to become Bahai. why?
xplosivelilly 5 months ago
@xplosivelilly Bahá'ís cannot teach the Bahá'í Faith in Israel. Israelis can become Bahá'í, however, an organized community of Israeli Bahá'ís does not exist. Bahá'ís have not been allowed to teach the Faith in Israel since the time of Bahá'u'lláh. All of the Bahá'í Communities that did exist in Israel disappeared as the Bahá'ís were/are instructed to emigrate and teach the Faith in other lands. Only the Bahá'í World Centre remains in Israel.
ABahaiPointGroup 5 months ago
@ABahaiPointGroup ok, but still, why aren't you allowed to congregate in Israel?
xplosivelilly 5 months ago
@xplosivelilly Bahá'ís obey Bahá'u'lláh's command not to teach in Israel. Independent Investigation of Truth is a principle of the Bahá'í Faith. If you wish to find out the reasons why, the Bahá'í Writings are there for people with questions to get answers. The Bahá'í Reference Library ( reference.bahai.org ) has a good portion of the Bahá'í Writings, compilations, and historical accounts that you will need to answer that question.
ABahaiPointGroup 5 months ago
What good is "independent investigation of truth" when you suppress basic texts? Then when you publish them, fill them full of man-made fodder and bullshit and basically abrogate and invalidate those texts as meaningless.
In the Most Holy Book Baha'u'llah says that a thief should have a permanent mark put on his forhead (tattoo/brand), and that the believers should not be softies about it.
He says if somebody deliberately burns down a house, he should be burned.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship The punishment for arson is death - not burning. The punishment you speak of is on the eyebrow. If you want the Writings to be translated, please try and translate them then. The Bahá'í Revelation works according to a Divine Plan that has been pre-ordained, and plans created by the governing body for the Bahá'ís help the community progress further.
The Writings of Bahá'u'lláh are clear, and He has authorized 'Abdu'l-Bahá to interpret the text because people don't understand.
ABahaiPointGroup 2 months ago
Earl E. Elder, PhD, DD and William McE. Miller, MA, DD translated it as "forehead." They were Arabic scholars, the lead translator had lived in Arabia many years, both were familiar with early Bahai's and students of the movement, and they translated it "forehead." I am sure that the slippery Baha'i "administration" used every device at its disposal to "soften" the text, including substituting "eyebrown" for "forehead." But what's the difference, really? In short, do you have a point? No.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
Dissembler: "The punishment for arson is death - not burning."
Don't play games. Obviously death was the intended result of the burning. His simple statement in the Kitab-i-Aqdas is:
"Whoever burns a house intentionally, burn him."
Kill him by burning him. Pretty hard for two Arabic scholars to get that simple statement wrong. Your "Most Holy Book" also states: "Whoever kills a person with intent, kill him." So yeah, the Most Great Gnome was big on the death penalty. You got that right.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
"The Bahá'í Revelation works according to a Divine Plan..."
The Baha'i propaganda rollout works according to promotional principles adhered to by political-minded leader/marketers. That's why it DOESN'T grow, because it's fake, a dead religion. If they had followed the Aqdas (taken it seriously) from the start, it would be a respectable religion. At this time it is not a respectable religion, but a joke.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
"The Writings of Bahá'u'lláh are clear"
I know. He said "Whoever burns a house intentionally, burn him."
Very clear.
"He has authorized 'Abdu'l-Bahá to interpret the text because people don't understand."
What's to "interpret" about the above? A sorry "Book of Laws" to need such massive alteration. Many of B's statements in that book were to the effect of "I'm putting this plainly, don't mess with it." Are you not aware that 'Abdu'l-Baha is dead? What's it say about cloning, by the way?
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
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DivineFellowship 2 months ago
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@ramindjame -- Sore loser about what? You guy's are the ones stuck with an absurd Book of Laws.
"Qualified to interpret?" What's to "interpret" about "Whoever burns a house intentionally, burn him"? When did Baha'is become shysters and double-talkers? (That's what you get, I guess, from not having your own scripture for 150 years.) And when did Baha'is become people who couldn't spell? I thought u ppl were all into education n stuff.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship The punishment for arson is either the death penalty or life imprisonment. The details of the law such as the degree of the offence and the circumstances are to be taken into account to decide which of the two sentences is to be selected has been left to the Universal House of Justice. the Universal House of Justice has written, "In relation to arson, this depends on what 'house' is burned."
Any issues, like cloning, are to be decided by the Universal House of Justice.
ABahaiPointGroup 2 months ago
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@ABahaiPointGroup -- But that's not what the Book of Laws actually says. It also says nothing about the eyebrow, but the forhead. (I have no idea why you an eyebrow is so different.) Not much good to have an "original text" (as Baha'is like to brag about) if the first thing you do is ignore it; the 2nd thing you do is start changing it and misrepresenting it. You Baha'is are the most mendacious and cravenly stupid set of twits I've ever laid eyes on.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@xplosivelilly -- Israel is a Jewish supremacist state. You don't know what Israel is?
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship i fully understand what israel really is. But freedom of religion is still allowed as far as i know of. Most jews there aren't even religious
xplosivelilly 2 months ago
The same reason Israelis are not allowed to marry not (ethnic) Jews, and non-(ethnic) Jews are not allowed to live in Israel. The Jews do not want their Jews leaving Judaism. Simple. The Baha'is in Israel (canny and smart politicians) do not allow it so that they can stay on that mountain and be left alone. It's probably one of the reasons they are able to be there. For the face of the Rabbis/Israelis, the Baha'is say "We won't allow it." But it's really the Rabbinate/Israelis who want the rule.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
The Bahai Faith = I am a drone+ I am a zombie+I am a sheeple= NO BRAINS
cottoncandicane 5 months ago
@cottoncandicane -- Basically, yup. I was in it for about 15 years. It only made sense to me because of prior brainwashing from TV about what the "world problems" were (not).
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
I think the main objective of the Bahai faith is to stop this unnecessary cruelty towards other people merely for believing in a different God, what is so wrong with that? I personally hold myself to no religion, and never will, because I do not see the need, If there is a God and I am a good person in this life then I believe I will be rewarded for it in the afterlife, if there is one.
cbrumrun 5 months ago
@cbrumrun not true you have had access to the scripture yet denied jesus christ you will have had your reward here on earth. Jesus said the only way to the father was through me.
k12rising 4 months ago
@k12rising "Jesus said the only way to the father was through me."
We as Baha'is put a timeline on that quote.
hybridflare 3 months ago
@hybridflare you as bahai can suck my dick lol
Religion noobs
l1998 2 months ago
@k12rising -- Does Jesus get to have only one name? (Even though people can have many names.) If somebody comes up to you and says "My name's Jesus" do you worship him?
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship only if he could prove his claim.
k12rising 2 months ago
@cbrumrun: u don't know much about internal workings of Bahai. There's NO place 4 LGBT people there. Ur told to part from your loved one & give up "the lifestyle," or u lose ur voting rights & eventually ur "membership." NOT TO MENTION Bahai censorship! Im 4 FREEDOM of religion, including for Bahais in Iran (no brainer there!) AND I can't bear the thought of Bahai being "the" world relig. I KNOW! I was part of that mess for 20 yrs, left because couldn't take the narrow-mindedness & hypocrisy!
GreenRad2012 4 months ago
@GreenRad2012 -- One good thing about the Baha'i Faith, back when I was in it, was that they took a hard line against sexual deviancy. Once they stop doing that I'll know they are thoroughly corrupted. I predict they will become corrupt in that area. When I left it, most young Baha'i people were very affected by the mass culture and were really not much different than any other kids, including all the vices: drugs, sex, and the rest. It's probably worse now.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
I grew up in a country with many different Christian churches, and I never once saw "cruelty" by one White European to another over religion. And the churches were always open, 24-7, all night. Now that the Baha'is and other Marxists and dupes brought us "diversity," my old towns not a friendly place any more, and the churches are locked up tight. Thanks dumbasses.
Love Your People.
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DivineFellowship 2 months ago
All religions are the same, IMHO the Bahai faith is merely trying to teach that to people who may not understand. I don't believe any religions are true but there are thousands if not millions of people that have died at the hands of religion or difference in religion.
cbrumrun 5 months ago
@cbrumrun -- There are faaarr more people who have died because of Jewish banker wars than because of religion. The past 200 years in White Christian America death because of religion is an extreme rarity.
All religions are not the same. If you think so, you have not studied them at all.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
If I can take some time to rubut.
1.) When you are born you get a number, when you learn to drive you get a number, why is this number a problem?
2. ) When you become a Christian you must be babtized, when you become a Jew you must have a Mitzvah. Next to that an interview seems kind of tame.
3.) The Baha'is do have strict systems in place to deal with Baha'is who preach against the faith. This is because in the past those people have sought to incite nations to exterminate Baha'is.
nomzod 6 months ago
WAY TO IMPOSE YOUR OWN OPINION ON OTHERS :). THE WORLD IS EDUCATED ENOUGH LUCKILY TO DECIDE THEIR OWN DESTINY
ramtinking 6 months ago 2
@ramtinking Didn't you just now impose your opinion?
cottoncandicane 5 months ago
@cottoncandicane saying others are educated enough to make their "OWN" decisions is imposing my opinion on others?! we are living in a world, that information passes around very quickly, and people are bright enough to do independent research and find things out based on their own knowledge... how did i impose my own opinion on others?!
ramtinking 5 months ago
@ramtinking -- Posting a YouTube video is not "imposing" an opinion. Get a dictionary.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship i don't need to get a dictionary because I already know what the term "BIAS VIEW" means... i think you are the one in need of a dictionary
ramtinking 2 months ago
@AbuHamzaBinSaif Have you met a Baha'í? By the way, I read the history of these people, and the only thing I see is hate and persecution from Muslims, and even some Christians. What these people did? They just forgive them, and stood strong with their faith while Muslims killed them. I wonder who mades me throw up? The Baha'í's or the people that persecute them? I know my answer.
NobiscumDeus1 6 months ago
@NobiscumDeus1 -- I have met 100s of Baha'is. Oddly, they all have similar traits. They are very nice, very well-meaning, very shallow, and very programmed to need the Baha'i Faith (and even miscegenation) to make themselves feel like they are good and noble. They are sad.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship Oh Christians, you people are almost like muslims. You all think that every religion is bullshit except yours. Christians are pathetic and entirely deluded. They are the worst hypocrites in the planet as they say good messages, and at the end the actions are the worst. Christians are the central comedy of my life as I live with thousands of them around me.
NobiscumDeus1 2 months ago
"Oh Christians, you people are almost like muslims."
You must have meant to direct this to some other poster. I'm into Hindu Yoga, man. My site: YogaSutras●Com
"You all think that every religion is bullshit except yours."
Again, you are confused. My view is there are a many religions as people, each valid.
"Christians are pathetic and entirely deluded."
Now you attack all Christians. "Everything's bullshit but meNobiscum."
Christians are generally good people. Wipe your dirty nose, chump.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
The Babis excelled in sedition, havoc, carrying out battles with each other and with Muslims. The first major persecutions of these people came when a few of them tried to murder their king. When a little cult tries to murder a king of a nation that group deserves persecution. The reason Biker Man (Baha'u'llah) and his crew were exiled and continuously moved around is because everywhere they went their was conflict, intrigues, murders, etc. The government got sick of it. You are deluded.
DivineFellowship 2 months ago
@DivineFellowship The reason they wanted to murder the king was because they were being persecuted by them. Even Christians and Jews tried to do this to their Roman leaders as they were being persecuted by them! Baha'u'llah was condemn because of his beliefs, which contradicted many muslim beliefs. Do you have evidence Baha'u'llah murdered someone? Your delusion is entire. You're another comedy for me.
NobiscumDeus1 2 months ago