Old School, these guys must be old by now. Looks like they are GAY Lovers. It must have been sad for them to hide in the closet during that era. Today they would have been able to Celebrate and be Proud of their HOMOSEXUALITY.
superlyger is a complete FAG and should go to a bjj school and get tapped every which way..ur a bitch and u know nothing tell me where u live and ill give u a bjj school u can go to near by, u can talk that shit over there and see if u can walk out without any broken bones
I don't know much about foreign wrestling so excuse me if I make a mistake here. But from what I've been told and saw, you always more the left. Meaning work the left arm and leg. That's what they do in pro wrestling, so if this is different please tell me. It all looks the same.
I actually asked a pro wrestling promoter why and he didn't give me a straight answer other than, "That's how they do it. It shows you are professional."
This crap isnt CATCH WRESTLING! I don't which is more stupid: The video or the people in it. CATCH WRESTLING was here before JuiJitsu people, Quit changing history or believing that nonsense.
catch wrestling!...pretty much what pro wrestling was before they started fixing matches. That's why so many of these holds you see used by "Technical Wrestlers" in WWE,TNA etc.
the hamerlock isn't the kimura. It is similar but it isnt the same. The kimura puts the forearm at a 90 degree angle to the upper arm and then wrenches it backwards, the hamerlock just puts the arm behind your back and has upward pressure put on it. you can pull a kimura from in front of somebody. also in judo it isn't known as the kimura, its a gatami move, I forget exactly what its called. When they incorporated it into brazilian jiu-jitsu they named it after a judo guy who did it
Before it was called a kimura, I believe it was known as a keylock in the Judo roots or Double Wrist Lock in Catch Wrestling, etc.
I may not be 100% accurate here, but from my research it was called Kimura when the Judo Expert Kimura beat Helio Gracie with the keylock (telephone style) hold. In honor of Gracies defeat, that hold was then known as the Kimura which is what it's mainly known today.
Lastly, yes... the hammerlock and double wrist lock are not the same, as you explained.
The Brazilians baztardized the terminology. It is an ude garami it is Judo, and BJJ comes from Judo. Therfore, it is an ude garami. Most Judoka's hate this about the popular mess Gracie Jui- Jitsu has created.
In authentic Judo circles it is important for the sake of universal learning and posterity that the terminology remain pure. But right you are, it is a double wristlock in Catch.
ude-garami it is. I just kept it in English form, but the 'keylock' term I used is actually incorrect on my behalf. Not totally sure what the translation is, but I am guessing it is Arm-tangle, or something similar (using my very little knowledge in japanese). Would love to learn Japanese, though. ;-)
Yes, I do agree about the 'baztardized' terminology by the early Gracie Jiu-Jitsu guys. They played a very smart, business game, and they done it well, as BJJ is everywhere now today.
Sad, sad, sad...
DanHGN 1 year ago
the boston crab is a great stretch for the back LOL
Ibalon2012 2 years ago
lol they must like the position at 1:30
fatty looks so funny when he taps
TitWarlord 2 years ago
Old School, these guys must be old by now. Looks like they are GAY Lovers. It must have been sad for them to hide in the closet during that era. Today they would have been able to Celebrate and be Proud of their HOMOSEXUALITY.
ASSBANG6969 2 years ago
Fucking ass clowns
RICH78666 2 years ago 2
you cant even tie up correctly
Sexhelm 2 years ago
Waste of internet space an everybody's time.
wrestlepython 2 years ago
superlyger is a complete FAG and should go to a bjj school and get tapped every which way..ur a bitch and u know nothing tell me where u live and ill give u a bjj school u can go to near by, u can talk that shit over there and see if u can walk out without any broken bones
jiujitsyoshit 3 years ago 2
BJJ is great, but they did rename a lot of crap
johnnydragonfist 2 years ago
Great video!
But you forgot the abdonomal stretch.
johan861 3 years ago
When you did the armbar, his palm was up. Greatly decreasing your chances of getting the sub. Thumbs up when doing an armbar.
Shredder15 3 years ago
I don't know much about foreign wrestling so excuse me if I make a mistake here. But from what I've been told and saw, you always more the left. Meaning work the left arm and leg. That's what they do in pro wrestling, so if this is different please tell me. It all looks the same.
haVocHWC3 3 years ago
Yes, working the left is customary in wrestling as far as I know.
ayala87 3 years ago
I actually asked a pro wrestling promoter why and he didn't give me a straight answer other than, "That's how they do it. It shows you are professional."
haVocHWC3 3 years ago
The Kimura Lock wasn't invented by Masahiko Kimura, and in Judo, they call it the Gyaku Ude Garami.
The reason why people all it the Kimura was because Kimura used that move to break Helio Gracie's shoulder.
paranoiuhh 3 years ago
This crap isnt CATCH WRESTLING! I don't which is more stupid: The video or the people in it. CATCH WRESTLING was here before JuiJitsu people, Quit changing history or believing that nonsense.
johnnyd911 3 years ago
What move demonstrated here is not part of catch wrestling?
ayala87 3 years ago
FULL NELSON
zohar5150 3 years ago
good video, I like
cadman6735 3 years ago
Pro wrestling....
jaguar004 3 years ago
catch wrestling!...pretty much what pro wrestling was before they started fixing matches. That's why so many of these holds you see used by "Technical Wrestlers" in WWE,TNA etc.
supermadman 3 years ago
pretty funny video
bmxpunker2005 3 years ago
the hamerlock isn't the kimura. It is similar but it isnt the same. The kimura puts the forearm at a 90 degree angle to the upper arm and then wrenches it backwards, the hamerlock just puts the arm behind your back and has upward pressure put on it. you can pull a kimura from in front of somebody. also in judo it isn't known as the kimura, its a gatami move, I forget exactly what its called. When they incorporated it into brazilian jiu-jitsu they named it after a judo guy who did it
xesogycit 3 years ago
that's true, in catch wrestling a kimura is known as a double wrist lock
supermadman 3 years ago
Before it was called a kimura, I believe it was known as a keylock in the Judo roots or Double Wrist Lock in Catch Wrestling, etc.
I may not be 100% accurate here, but from my research it was called Kimura when the Judo Expert Kimura beat Helio Gracie with the keylock (telephone style) hold. In honor of Gracies defeat, that hold was then known as the Kimura which is what it's mainly known today.
Lastly, yes... the hammerlock and double wrist lock are not the same, as you explained.
wrestler50000 3 years ago
The Brazilians baztardized the terminology. It is an ude garami it is Judo, and BJJ comes from Judo. Therfore, it is an ude garami. Most Judoka's hate this about the popular mess Gracie Jui- Jitsu has created.
In authentic Judo circles it is important for the sake of universal learning and posterity that the terminology remain pure. But right you are, it is a double wristlock in Catch.
superlyger 3 years ago
ude-garami it is. I just kept it in English form, but the 'keylock' term I used is actually incorrect on my behalf. Not totally sure what the translation is, but I am guessing it is Arm-tangle, or something similar (using my very little knowledge in japanese). Would love to learn Japanese, though. ;-)
Yes, I do agree about the 'baztardized' terminology by the early Gracie Jiu-Jitsu guys. They played a very smart, business game, and they done it well, as BJJ is everywhere now today.
Peace!
wrestler50000 3 years ago
"...it is important for the sake of universal learning and posterity that the terminology remain pure..."
Why? You sound like a nutter.
ultimatehammer 2 years ago
judo/japanese term for the "kimura" is the Ude-Garame, i believe.
sharone13 3 years ago