and one more thing.....i worked with bobby johnson a "conspirator" ....she called me and my sister the same night it happened to see if she could stay the night ....we said we were busy....now im kibd of glad, who knows i believe we would had been the next targets for charlie and charles
if you knew the man like we did....you would have your suspicions to.....i was in erins grade.....she was always quiet and never talked to anyone.....charlie was a great guy! until she came along.......erin called their plan "the big bang theory"....mr.caffey is quite forgiving alright.....ironic he survived right, and then tries to defend erin.....she would be the perfect addition to his new lifestyle...
im from rains county. i knew ALL the people involved....it baffles me that terry remarried 4 months later to a woman that was in the church he attendef with kids that looked like his an the same age...believe what you wish.....but only a portion of this town has our theories on mr.caffey....he's a millionaire now and called all the people in our town corrupt
This guy is not being honest with himself about all the facts.
There was massive, undeniable evidence that HIS DAUGHTER was the mastermind of the murders and was actually planning the murders LONG BEFORE she met the boy who actually committed them. He was the SECOND boy she asked to help her murder her family. He didn't corrupt her---SHE corrupted HIM.
This man's daughter is a PSYCHOPATH and he is in denial about it. He cannot help anyone as long as he is in denial of the truth.
WOW, he spoke to our school today, i swear 200 people, including some of the teachers started crying. Not me though. takes a death in my family to get my waterworks going
i just read this story not knowing the background and found it a wonderful tear jerking storing I have read in years. I learned alot from this and this story touched me very deepely.
he came and spoke to my school and his story is so sad. and he has to be the strongest and most amazing man i have ever met.. he inspires me so much he is a remarkable man..
@windertalker006 No, I am saying that this man is willing to forgive. Has nothing to do with murderers being kept alive. Jesus was able to forgive us. He is willing forgive so that he can move on with his life and not be consumed by anger. I do believe Erin will face God one day!
This is an inspirational story! He is willing forgive! I don't know whether or not he believes Erin was the mastering behind this or not but he is willing to forgive! I do believe on the other hand that Erin and her friends will have to answer to God! Treat other people right because what you do to other people will come around on you! God Bless!
@windtalker006 Murderers are people. People who make mistakes. They should be taken out of society and imprisoned so that they can't hurt anyone else. If we murder people who murder people then we're murders too. Animals kill each other. As human beings we should be above that.
@windtalker006 No, I wouldn't kill them, I wouldn't kill anyone. If we kill people who kill people we are no better than them. People who commit murder, rape etc are messed up. They have serious problems. They are not evil, they are people with serious problems. They should be taken out of society and locked up.
@CaroHomeCrafts I wasn't asking what YOU would do, I'm saying we as in society. Do you also realize how expensive it is to lock up every freak that's out there, not to mention most will get out and repeat their crimes and just go back. Locking them up costs money that we really don't have right now, don't you wonder why we're abandoning the space program? Well you might not be from the U.S. I guess but yeah we're in the shit hole lol, I'd like to see the U.S. be an average country finally
@windtalker006 No, I knew you meant as a society. As a society we shouldn't kill those who kill. That's a sick and brutal response. I agree with you that we shouldn't let them back out to repeat their crimes though. Some people are successfully rehabilitated and safe to let back out, but that's another matter. It costs a lot to keep these people housed, yes. It's a necessary evil. It actually costs more to execute them.
@windtalker006 No, I knew you meant as a society. As a society we shouldn't kill those who kill. That's a sick and brutal response. I agree with you that we shouldn't let them back out to repeat their crimes though. Some people are successfully rehabilitated and safe to let back out, but that's another matter. It costs a lot to keep these people housed, yes. It's a necessary evil. It actually costs more to execute them.
Erin was a conniving little ****, i guess it's easier for him to deal with if he blames it on demons etc, the only demon was Erin and he co conspirators
How a girl that young can found by the police curled up in a corner in fetal position and properly exposed to unbelievable things a day later and still be named as the master mind of a crime committed by grown adult is beyond my imagination.
I guess that she had no other option but to accept the plea because she couldn't afford a lawyer which could have gotten her off. It is a rotten justice system.
@TakjamRosen yeah keep telling yourself that. There is NO way she was not involved and I hope every day in prison is filled with assault and torture by the other scum inmates for her and the other three wastes of human flesh.
@subicbrat If there really are adults out walking freely around who can be manipulated to kill someone by a 15 year old child, then I am really sorry for you level of safety and lack of IQ in your society. They 3 others were the adults and should have the brain capacity to call a counselor if she might have expressed thoughts about killing her family. Something is very wrong with this case and I bet the father knew that he was out of options when he let her make the deal. The truth will come out
@TakjamRosen The IQ of Americans? Really? We are the dumbest people on the planet. Shoulda, woulda, coulda... prisons are full of shoulda, woulda, coulda. So your argument is DUMB. The father did not "let" any deal occur. He argued for leniency. I doubt that was why the dumb kid received life over the death penalty. The State saves court costs with such pleas and I wish her a nice time in prison.
@TakjamRosen I understand the father's need to believe that his child was somehow manipulated. He's her dad--it's probably the only way he can sleep at night. I even understand why he forgave her. But lets look at the facts. This was plotted for over a month--this wasn't some moment of passion. At any time she could've backed out and changed her mind and she didn't. When the police found her she tried to play like she'd escaped the fire--she even lied about being raped.
I just finished reading Terror By Night and I'm so sorry Terry for what happened to your family... your wife and boys .. and Erin. There's no doubt in my mind that the page from the book was indeed your message from God. There are no coincidences in life... that page was there for you because God knew that you needed to read it. Some people can't see it that way because they've never had God do something like that for them. I have.. I know it happens.
Whatever gets you through the night, Terry. Denial can be very powerful. I agree with the poster below... I don't think I would have been able to date after two years, much less marry.
I guess it's nice that he's happier now after such a terrible tragedy, but I think the page was merely coincidence rather than a "message from God". It's an interesting coincidence indeed. But I think he is wrong for thinking these deranged lunatics were basically possessed when they committed such brutal acts of murder against his family. I also doubt Erin feels any remorse for her actions, only that she got caught. Also, I find it odd that he remarried in less than 2 years after the tragedy...
@spanketyspankety Listen very carefully, even tho' I doubt you will be able to comprehend because the Light of Christ is not in you; and you cannot MAKE it come to you-"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him."-John 6:44. Nevertheless, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A COINCIDENCE. Every thing you do, every person you meet, every problem you face, every thought you have has meaning and purpose. Someday you will see this- or you won't.....And yes, there WERE demons involved.
@talitakoomi Do you have any evidence to back up that outrageous claim? I'm sure there's some real deep meaning God has placed within the event of me sneezing the same time as someone else in the room. Not everything in your life has meaning to it, and you're somewhat self-centered for thinking so.
This tragedy demonstrates that if you cloister your children away from the world with home schooling and then brainwash them in a Christian CULT church, they will be so overwhelmed and aimless when finally confronted with the real world that they will make terrible choices. Even the preacher's wife said that Erin was the most naive child she ever met. Erin's parents brought this upon themselves, but I do feel sorry for Erin's brothers.
and one more thing.....i worked with bobby johnson a "conspirator" ....she called me and my sister the same night it happened to see if she could stay the night ....we said we were busy....now im kibd of glad, who knows i believe we would had been the next targets for charlie and charles
11nicolio11 2 weeks ago
if you knew the man like we did....you would have your suspicions to.....i was in erins grade.....she was always quiet and never talked to anyone.....charlie was a great guy! until she came along.......erin called their plan "the big bang theory"....mr.caffey is quite forgiving alright.....ironic he survived right, and then tries to defend erin.....she would be the perfect addition to his new lifestyle...
11nicolio11 2 weeks ago
im from rains county. i knew ALL the people involved....it baffles me that terry remarried 4 months later to a woman that was in the church he attendef with kids that looked like his an the same age...believe what you wish.....but only a portion of this town has our theories on mr.caffey....he's a millionaire now and called all the people in our town corrupt
11nicolio11 2 weeks ago
This guy is not being honest with himself about all the facts.
There was massive, undeniable evidence that HIS DAUGHTER was the mastermind of the murders and was actually planning the murders LONG BEFORE she met the boy who actually committed them. He was the SECOND boy she asked to help her murder her family. He didn't corrupt her---SHE corrupted HIM.
This man's daughter is a PSYCHOPATH and he is in denial about it. He cannot help anyone as long as he is in denial of the truth.
UncleIrv 1 month ago
WOW, he spoke to our school today, i swear 200 people, including some of the teachers started crying. Not me though. takes a death in my family to get my waterworks going
sexymanfrombigjapan 2 months ago
i just read this story not knowing the background and found it a wonderful tear jerking storing I have read in years. I learned alot from this and this story touched me very deepely.
blkbelt193 2 months ago
he came and spoke to my school and his story is so sad. and he has to be the strongest and most amazing man i have ever met.. he inspires me so much he is a remarkable man..
TheOlddodge1 4 months ago
Hey he stronger and more of a man then most... thats something hard to forgive i dont know how he did but thats takes alot
amindrakesmom 4 months ago
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@windertalker006 No, I am saying that this man is willing to forgive. Has nothing to do with murderers being kept alive. Jesus was able to forgive us. He is willing forgive so that he can move on with his life and not be consumed by anger. I do believe Erin will face God one day!
tgree18 5 months ago
The pieces fit together perfect for this to happen, a religous family, and the girl was shy it even says and you know it's always the quiet ones...
windtalker006 5 months ago
This is an inspirational story! He is willing forgive! I don't know whether or not he believes Erin was the mastering behind this or not but he is willing to forgive! I do believe on the other hand that Erin and her friends will have to answer to God! Treat other people right because what you do to other people will come around on you! God Bless!
tgree18 5 months ago
@tgree18 You're really saying it's smart to keep murderers alive? *Facepalm*
windtalker006 5 months ago
@windtalker006 Murderers are people. People who make mistakes. They should be taken out of society and imprisoned so that they can't hurt anyone else. If we murder people who murder people then we're murders too. Animals kill each other. As human beings we should be above that.
CaroHomeCrafts 4 months ago
@CaroHomeCrafts So you're saying we should not have killed Bin Laden? Or any terrorist for that matter? Why do they deserve life?
windtalker006 4 months ago
@windtalker006 No, I wouldn't kill them, I wouldn't kill anyone. If we kill people who kill people we are no better than them. People who commit murder, rape etc are messed up. They have serious problems. They are not evil, they are people with serious problems. They should be taken out of society and locked up.
CaroHomeCrafts 4 months ago
@CaroHomeCrafts I wasn't asking what YOU would do, I'm saying we as in society. Do you also realize how expensive it is to lock up every freak that's out there, not to mention most will get out and repeat their crimes and just go back. Locking them up costs money that we really don't have right now, don't you wonder why we're abandoning the space program? Well you might not be from the U.S. I guess but yeah we're in the shit hole lol, I'd like to see the U.S. be an average country finally
windtalker006 4 months ago
@windtalker006 No, I knew you meant as a society. As a society we shouldn't kill those who kill. That's a sick and brutal response. I agree with you that we shouldn't let them back out to repeat their crimes though. Some people are successfully rehabilitated and safe to let back out, but that's another matter. It costs a lot to keep these people housed, yes. It's a necessary evil. It actually costs more to execute them.
CaroHomeCrafts 4 months ago
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@windtalker006 No, I knew you meant as a society. As a society we shouldn't kill those who kill. That's a sick and brutal response. I agree with you that we shouldn't let them back out to repeat their crimes though. Some people are successfully rehabilitated and safe to let back out, but that's another matter. It costs a lot to keep these people housed, yes. It's a necessary evil. It actually costs more to execute them.
CaroHomeCrafts 4 months ago
i met him and Sonja also. amazing person.
thecoolelizabeth 6 months ago
He came to my school. Everyone was crying!
TheMissj15 6 months ago
What a Great, Inspirational and Strong Guy.
BumbleBrook 7 months ago
Erin was a conniving little ****, i guess it's easier for him to deal with if he blames it on demons etc, the only demon was Erin and he co conspirators
the3aremine1 9 months ago
I don't blame him for using superstition as a crutch. It is probably the only way he could have coped with his own flesh being such a scum.
subicbrat 9 months ago 2
How a girl that young can found by the police curled up in a corner in fetal position and properly exposed to unbelievable things a day later and still be named as the master mind of a crime committed by grown adult is beyond my imagination.
I guess that she had no other option but to accept the plea because she couldn't afford a lawyer which could have gotten her off. It is a rotten justice system.
TakjamRosen 11 months ago
@TakjamRosen yeah keep telling yourself that. There is NO way she was not involved and I hope every day in prison is filled with assault and torture by the other scum inmates for her and the other three wastes of human flesh.
subicbrat 9 months ago
@subicbrat If there really are adults out walking freely around who can be manipulated to kill someone by a 15 year old child, then I am really sorry for you level of safety and lack of IQ in your society. They 3 others were the adults and should have the brain capacity to call a counselor if she might have expressed thoughts about killing her family. Something is very wrong with this case and I bet the father knew that he was out of options when he let her make the deal. The truth will come out
TakjamRosen 9 months ago
@TakjamRosen they were only just adults, it's not like she went to some 40 odd year old
the3aremine1 9 months ago
@TakjamRosen The IQ of Americans? Really? We are the dumbest people on the planet. Shoulda, woulda, coulda... prisons are full of shoulda, woulda, coulda. So your argument is DUMB. The father did not "let" any deal occur. He argued for leniency. I doubt that was why the dumb kid received life over the death penalty. The State saves court costs with such pleas and I wish her a nice time in prison.
subicbrat 9 months ago
@subicbrat Heather Wendorf and Kara Borden got better defense for themselves and avoided pleas. Thats why they are free and Erin Caffey not.
TakjamRosen 9 months ago
@TakjamRosen cry me a river. Keep telling yourself that nonsense. Few believe it. Stay deluded! Carry on...
subicbrat 9 months ago
@TakjamRosen I understand the father's need to believe that his child was somehow manipulated. He's her dad--it's probably the only way he can sleep at night. I even understand why he forgave her. But lets look at the facts. This was plotted for over a month--this wasn't some moment of passion. At any time she could've backed out and changed her mind and she didn't. When the police found her she tried to play like she'd escaped the fire--she even lied about being raped.
TheJcanno8 7 months ago
it's been 3 years to the day since this happened, and I just watched the episode of I Survived with Terry's story.
stepitup25 11 months ago
I just finished reading Terror By Night and I'm so sorry Terry for what happened to your family... your wife and boys .. and Erin. There's no doubt in my mind that the page from the book was indeed your message from God. There are no coincidences in life... that page was there for you because God knew that you needed to read it. Some people can't see it that way because they've never had God do something like that for them. I have.. I know it happens.
gunhunter30 11 months ago
People react differently with grief and if his new wife makes him happy then leave him be
Hotiechic102 1 year ago
The lawyer that was the defence is Eddie Northcut a real douche bag in sulphur springs
glmdml 1 year ago
Whatever gets you through the night, Terry. Denial can be very powerful. I agree with the poster below... I don't think I would have been able to date after two years, much less marry.
SalDag 1 year ago
I guess it's nice that he's happier now after such a terrible tragedy, but I think the page was merely coincidence rather than a "message from God". It's an interesting coincidence indeed. But I think he is wrong for thinking these deranged lunatics were basically possessed when they committed such brutal acts of murder against his family. I also doubt Erin feels any remorse for her actions, only that she got caught. Also, I find it odd that he remarried in less than 2 years after the tragedy...
spanketyspankety 1 year ago
@spanketyspankety Listen very carefully, even tho' I doubt you will be able to comprehend because the Light of Christ is not in you; and you cannot MAKE it come to you-"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him."-John 6:44. Nevertheless, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A COINCIDENCE. Every thing you do, every person you meet, every problem you face, every thought you have has meaning and purpose. Someday you will see this- or you won't.....And yes, there WERE demons involved.
talitakoomi 11 months ago
@talitakoomi Do you have any evidence to back up that outrageous claim? I'm sure there's some real deep meaning God has placed within the event of me sneezing the same time as someone else in the room. Not everything in your life has meaning to it, and you're somewhat self-centered for thinking so.
spanketyspankety 11 months ago
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This tragedy demonstrates that if you cloister your children away from the world with home schooling and then brainwash them in a Christian CULT church, they will be so overwhelmed and aimless when finally confronted with the real world that they will make terrible choices. Even the preacher's wife said that Erin was the most naive child she ever met. Erin's parents brought this upon themselves, but I do feel sorry for Erin's brothers.
stillwaterguy04 1 year ago
God IS good all the time. This story touches my heart and gives me hope.
bmn5772 1 year ago
Thats a kid at my schools step dad. SWEAR on my life, He told us the whole story in class very sadd..
YoHagridd80 1 year ago
That is the most hart breaking thing i have ever seen .... I am so sorry for this man
And that is coming from the hart ...
a5p1re 1 year ago
A strong, incredible man.
GIROBOTII 1 year ago
What an incredible man.
InDefenseofChrist 2 years ago 2