.....So your putting a Race car against a Family Saloon? Big fuckin deal, and you do a 200ft race? wow..WHERE are these so called SuperCars it eats? all i see is 4door family cars, no supercars, trying to make that car look faster than it really is with a misleading title, cmon stop with the bullshit and put it against a REAL SuperCar like the title says, wasted my time..
@JellyBird12 Dude, FSAE is serious bussiness. I am starting out in the Colorado State FSAE, and one of our cars can accelerate from 0-60 about as fast as a bugatti veyron.
@8484dano lol what are you trying to say? These cars have a ridiculous 0-60 time, built on an extremely tight budget from purely student designs. The gearbox is not meant for sustained high power lap speeds...thus the car is not designed for as much downforce nor anything else at high speeds.
@8484dano well... no shit. I mean is a small ass, tightly wound, purpose built vehicle. Its not designed to get up to the speeds an M5 can. Hell it isn't even designed to last a mere 6 months without service like the supercars are. Bottom line is that this thing can do what your Honda never will. Thats the point. They didnt build it to go toe to toe with a real supercar. You'd need another supercar to do that.
@MeestaNoName well think about how fast the parts in an engine are moving and then think about how the piston has to accelerate from a dead stop to max speed and back to a stop multiple times in a second. the smaller and lighter the parts are, the less resistance it has, therefore making more power!
This is fkn shit. For a start there is no super car in the video, only performance saloon cars, get your facts right. Production cars are not built to beat FSAE cars, they have windscreens, doors, aircon. Where is the logic in comparing a go kart with a sedan. Maybe you should get a 4s drag car and compare that to road cars, hummm makes sense???? Pointless video. Yeah we've build FSAE cars aswell but we race against similar category cars. This comparison is dumb.
Also these FSAE are built on whatever money and or sponsorships the students themselves can obtain. That alone is a difficult task in itself. Not to mention it's all student designed and require various reports, and fabricating. All of which takes many hrs of time, and is done each and every year in attempt to bring to the table an entirely new car to campaign.
newtons laws. F=ma. No weight, yeah baby. shame about the 20mm air restrictor though, love to see one of these things at over 100mph. And go UOW fsae!!!!
@Sorvos its a competition series. competition car. You'll never see one on the streets. You may find some in people's garage's as a nice piece to talk about. That's it.
For all the haters out there...I'd like to see you guys go through the Mechanical Engineering curriculum and fabricate one of these FSAE cars as a senior design project while following 100+ rules...As well as continue your involvement within your FSAE organization at your university even after graduating...FSAE cars are built on different design criteria such as fuel economy, ergonomics, safety, etc...Everything that goes into a city car...Let me remind you that we are all college UNDERGRADS.
Road cars are not design for all-out performance otherwise you would have to sacrifice comfort and practicality. Just look at Caparo T1 for example, who the hell want to drive that car on the road.
@Chones719 So off?? No, my university has one that I've been in the garage with many times. It has a 85 hp honda 750 cc motorcycle engine, weighs about 800 lbs, looks like the ones in the video, and does a calculated 0-60 mph in 4.2 seconds...
As you can see from similar ones in the video, they get to 80 mph no sweat, probably under 7 seconds...
@Marrowni lol sorry i didnt know you were working with such a heavy machine. i am currently working on a car for FSAE at my university and it weighs under 400 lbs goes 0-60 in under 3.5 and tops out at 95 mph.
@Chones719 lmfao I thought you thought I was exaggerating. Well I don't know how you got it that light, I mean the roll cage config on ours we guesstimated was 125 lbs alone, the engines probably over 275, there's 400 lbs there. But they go very fast.
@Chones719 Nah, had the opportunity to join but too busy, maybe join next year... looks good on a resume plus I like cars, but time is limited when you're in engineering
@Marrowni theres more than just power and weight that goes into how fast you get from point a to point b. And FSAE cars are typically in 400-500 lb range. can even get as low as 340. But every car makes different power you wont really see anything higher than 100mph due to restrictions in air flow.
What do I do? I will gladly tell you. I'm currently employed as a mechanical engineer, I design gearboxes that can handle thousands of horsepower and output up to a few million ft pounds of torque. I was a member of our SAE baja team and can assure you we did plenty of fund raising. Currently I have a baja under construction along side a prototype commuter vehicle that's aesthetic appeal matches is 100mpg calculated fuel economy. What are you doing with your life you jerk?
you guys are missing the whole point. just the guys f***en credit. they built a sick car. im one of the FSAE teams too. if you think you are so smart then build one your own.
@samanamian well....it said Nigger....but people got mad.... so they italicized the N and added a line to it to make a W (Btw Im black for all the people that try to respond to my nigger joke in a less than reputable manner)
yeah well, the FS weights like 500 pounds. But they dont have what other "supercars" have, like air conditioning :P or other kind of shit that adds weight, so theres a great advantage on that.
but remember FSAE cars have crazy restrictions too... like a 20mm air intake restriction upstream of throttle. If it weren't for that restriction the 600cc engines used would perform much much better, and open up possibilities of supercharging ect
exactly. and for the people saying that the track was too short (which it was), the FSAE car would still own probably anywhere up to 1/2 mile to 3/4 mile. They usually use sport-bike engines in those things. Let the the FSAE car get past 9 or 10K RPMs and it'll take off even quicker since that's where a lot of sportbikes' peak torque comes in + the car might weigh less than a sportbike does -maybe???
the weight is basically the same a sport bike. it usually has between a 250cc and 600cc engine.
there really isn't a speed diff between 250cc and 600cc on a track (turns not 1/4 mile) because after a point u cant put any more power to the ground without spinning tires
it just has 4 wheels instead of 2 to help it handle better in the turns
That shit is such a short distance its not even funny altho it clearly won no doubt about it its stupid to put a e55 and m5 to do 0-60 or short distance races or whatever they were able to reach the e55 and m5 are higher end cars in which that seat with a engine on it would stand no chance.
As a member of an FSAE team I can tell you that most teams do all of their own fund raising and receive little monetary help from their schools. And if you think that FSAE students are not imaginative or innovative then I would encourage you to attend a compilation and be proved wrong. I think spectator tickets are $25.
LOL, we actually get fuck all in the way of funds and pretty much have to beg borrow and steal for every peice of material and sponsor that we put into our FSAE car... If only we were over funded! hahaha!
This video is really pointless. it's a 100hp 500 lb single seater. it's obviously much quicker than a 500hp 4000lb M5. Perhaps it can appeal to the public though just showing how fast a student formula is.
Put Hoosier Racing Slicks on the sedans like you have on the FSAE CAR and MB E55 AMG and BMW M5 will be eating you. But, still a good effort. That FSAE CAR must fun to drive.
The cars aren't geared for any more than ~90mph, change the gearing and you'd have another winnning race. 100hp in a 500-600lb car? no sedan on the road can keep up with that power/weight ratio.
the title of the vid should change. its an FSAE car against a heavy m5, the m5 isnt a supercar either. just think about it. power to weight the FSAE car will always dominate. same with bikes. im currently doing an FSAE car this year too. horrible title. cool vid.
the engines are 500 cc engines restricted to a 20mm intake. I'm a freshman on my college build team. The last car we built, 2000 season, is pretty sick, Baja is fun, but the speed in formula is fun.
I'd sure hope that the car would "eat" a "supercar" It weighs less than 1/6 the weight of the Bimmer, and it's probably using a 600cc motor out of a sportbike, which in itself would destroy any production BMW.
Build yourself a locost, and then you can have a real competition.
ppl stop bicthin about the things, these guys tried their best to produce this little machine to go out the world and wih, not like road cars(they are produced only for sales). that is why road cars never can win the FSAE.
and another thing is these guys put there effort and bloody time to make this one piece with on going studying, so c'mon give us some break!!!!!!!!
oh, and another thing, if you think its unfair... why don't you go and build one road car that beats any FSAE? what? you don't have knowledge and techniques? then just shut the XXXX up please!
The only haters of this challenging competition are those who never possessed enough talent, persistence or patience to get involved themselves. If you're going to talk shit, at least know what the hell you're talking about.
WOW MORLENHEIM you`re clearly very stupid or just monumentally ignorant about FSAE!
These "kids" have about 30 WEEKS to design and build the car with an average of about $20k. What is or isnt on the cars is a product of the RULES. You will in fact find many totally origional concepts if you look carefully at a major competition. So carry on laughing, because we are too; at you.
Why is everybody complaining that it isn't a fair comparison? the FS car might not be as much of an engineering triumph as the saloons but it's still pretty impressive, especially since here in england people of uni age can only afford to insure cars that do 0-60 in 10 secs minimum and then they let you loose in these which can do it in 3.2 secs.
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you all are stupid fucks, fisrt of all ALL FSAE cars have a 19mm restrictor plate!, second MOST are less than 400 lbs. my point. that weighs much less than the 600 cbr.. or any bike with the f4i so go suck a cock you motherfuckers
No need for the hissy fit bruh. I mean, it's not like we're sayin your dream car is a bitch or anything. Why would you get all tied in a knot about something like this? It doesn't do anybody any good.
No, it wouldn't. Evo's are designed to be street cars, THEN fast cars. FSAE cars are designed to be fast autocross cars from day one. The list of advantages for the FSAE car is endless. Evo would never, ever, win.
i cant speak for that car, but UMR's fsae car will do 0-60 in about 3.2-3.5 and top out at about 93 depending on aero and engine tune. if you took the wings off of it, the top speed would be about 120-130. it would beat the crap out of almost any supercar in a drag race, especially if it was 1/8th mile, but anything longer and the supercar would eventually pass. still, a yamaha r6 engine in a 480lb car with 8"wide goodyear slicks and 500+ lbs of downforce at 80 is a LOT more fun to drive!
Why 500+lb of downforce at 80mph? At Formula SAE you rarely get above 60mph? Granted you guys absolutely thrashed everyone in the wide, straight autocross event last year, but are you planning on having more tracks like that to work in your favor?
i just used that as quantification of what it puts out. the car was wind tunnel tested and when they got back that was the number i was told. i dont know why they used 80 instead of 60, but thats all i heard. i dont really work on the aero side of things aside from laying up some carbon occasionally.
the m5 and e class arnt supercars, their luxury cars. if you actually want to racesomething maby try the merc s class with the v12 (still its a luxury car), if you really want a supercar you should be racing the merc mclaren f1.
I am on my schools FSAE team and were pretty much brokeasses. In total, the car takes around 60-75k worth in materials and labour, and mostly from school grants and donations. Admittedly we aren't the best team but its all about getting experience in engineering. And we're a pretty big school, with 37k students. Design is done by 4th year students, the labour is done by students, welding, machining, everything is done in the engineering buildings, all the logistics is done by business students.
Formula SAE is a joke. Big schools get plenty of money and technical support from outside sources to make the cars the best. EFi tuners doing the programming on a ECU like MoTec, chassis experts basically design and set-up the car, etc... Most entries lie about the amount of money spent and claim students did the work when they merely watched! If a car is winning you can be pretty sure the students had very little or nothing to do with it.
I think that you dont know anything about fomula sae, if you are goinf to talk the next time read some shit about it, because of your comment can say that you are the most ignorant and stupid person i know.
P.D.:Read more, studie something, graduate, drive a f-sae and the you cant talk dump.
Well i dont know if you are a particiant of formula sae because in my university we do our car alone without help, we desing it and we construct it and we are the top 25 universtys of the competition, and example cornell they do their car and they have won SAE 9 times.
Well men in my university we are the welders the members team, every year we train a person to weld and you are right like some things difficult to machine are made by other persons but we desing all the pieces of the car, for example the calipers are made on CNC this are made by an expert because we dont have CNC in our university, all the pieces that we do out of the uni is because we dont have the machinry to do it in the uni.
My school did just fine placing 6th in autocross and 7th in endurance with half the funding of the rest of the top 10 at FSAE west 08. Our car was designed and built 100% buy college students hopped up on mountain dew.
I've not come across any FSAE cars yet running CVTs. Where did you see any Life? These cars can corner at about 1.8+ Gs, which is far ahead of any street-legal super car as of now.
Why oh why do so many video editors cover up the nice car sounds with some lame song? The actual editing was good, but lacking in the audio department. Regarding the content, what was that? A 200m(1/8mi) drag race? Even a decent dirtbike would win in that short of a distance. Talk about a handicap for the cars...
BMW M5 is electronically limited to 155mph (due to an agreement between German prestige manufacturers). Delimited it could do 205mph. The FS cars have a low final drive ratio (acceleration bias over top speed) due to them competing on short twisty tracks, so top speed is fairly irrelevant. They are so acceleration biased that they top out at 80-ish,but some can achieve 0-60 in 3.0 secs.
Yeah, and that is sucking all of their air in through a single 20 mm intake restriction. Even so, some are making over 80 HP with a 600 cc engine. The cars are geared low too take advantage of the motorcycle close ratio gearbox. Even with this extremely low gearing (shift to second at around 30 mph), acceleration is largely traction limited. Taller gearing wouldn't necessary result in lower acceleration, just poorer performance on a low speed autocross course.
Yeah, I suppose they do spin the wheels easily (even with sticky tyres on!). Many of them are using CVT gearboxes now, so can be tuned to spec slightly more.
What people need to remember is that Formula Student isn't about making the fastest car possible- its about making the car perform as well as possible for the events planned (very tight circuit etc.) on a strict budget and even stricter rules! This video just demonstrates the immense acceleration of an FSAE car.
Respect!! Gr8t work guys... btw which engine were u using??
rosh22rao 3 months ago
sexy!!
govindsuku 4 months ago
what was that music ? AWESOME CAR 1
SiberianZ 4 months ago
Video ruined @ 50s by shitty music.
ZoopChedda 5 months ago
@848dano okay, like I said, some of these cars can do 0-60 in under 3 seconds, in the field of the bugatti veyron.
1992CamrySedan 5 months ago
.....So your putting a Race car against a Family Saloon? Big fuckin deal, and you do a 200ft race? wow..WHERE are these so called SuperCars it eats? all i see is 4door family cars, no supercars, trying to make that car look faster than it really is with a misleading title, cmon stop with the bullshit and put it against a REAL SuperCar like the title says, wasted my time..
JellyBird12 5 months ago
@JellyBird12 Dude, FSAE is serious bussiness. I am starting out in the Colorado State FSAE, and one of our cars can accelerate from 0-60 about as fast as a bugatti veyron.
1992CamrySedan 5 months ago
So brings me back to why i commented lol the heading is "FSAE CAR eats supercars" It beats it over 100 meters, WOW you must be american lol
8484dano 6 months ago
haha the heading needs to be eats supercars over 100 meters ,any longer the the sae would have been blown onto the grass
8484dano 7 months ago
@8484dano lol what are you trying to say? These cars have a ridiculous 0-60 time, built on an extremely tight budget from purely student designs. The gearbox is not meant for sustained high power lap speeds...thus the car is not designed for as much downforce nor anything else at high speeds.
shmuck.
bluewker 6 months ago
@8484dano Okay, let's do an autocross.
FSAE cars still win.
playbass0612 6 months ago
@8484dano well... no shit. I mean is a small ass, tightly wound, purpose built vehicle. Its not designed to get up to the speeds an M5 can. Hell it isn't even designed to last a mere 6 months without service like the supercars are. Bottom line is that this thing can do what your Honda never will. Thats the point. They didnt build it to go toe to toe with a real supercar. You'd need another supercar to do that.
XTCoX 5 months ago
i'm pilot profesional !!!i need a car !!
MrPredicador01 10 months ago
4 words: power to weight ratio
240zguy240 1 year ago
@240zguy240
Yup. The guys at the college I'll be going to soon run the inline 4 from the 600 Gixxer. That's a hell of a lot of power on something so light...
MeestaNoName 7 months ago
@MeestaNoName well think about how fast the parts in an engine are moving and then think about how the piston has to accelerate from a dead stop to max speed and back to a stop multiple times in a second. the smaller and lighter the parts are, the less resistance it has, therefore making more power!
240zguy240 7 months ago
Would have won by even more had the driver not have terrible clutch control. Hes the weak link in your project and he hasnt even turned a corner yet
richarddale76 1 year ago
Bei der Beschleunigung zählt halt nach wie vor nur das Leistungsgewicht...
90Unb3l13vabl3 1 year ago
This is fkn shit. For a start there is no super car in the video, only performance saloon cars, get your facts right. Production cars are not built to beat FSAE cars, they have windscreens, doors, aircon. Where is the logic in comparing a go kart with a sedan. Maybe you should get a 4s drag car and compare that to road cars, hummm makes sense???? Pointless video. Yeah we've build FSAE cars aswell but we race against similar category cars. This comparison is dumb.
spirirtbuu 1 year ago
@spirirtbuu FSAE cars are not any where close to go-carts.
JVpictures 1 year ago
Yeah no wonder! Look at the power to weight ratio! How about you run them over a mile run.
pompka1 1 year ago
Yeah no wonder! Look at the power to weight ratio!
pompka1 1 year ago
Also these FSAE are built on whatever money and or sponsorships the students themselves can obtain. That alone is a difficult task in itself. Not to mention it's all student designed and require various reports, and fabricating. All of which takes many hrs of time, and is done each and every year in attempt to bring to the table an entirely new car to campaign.
AcesRacing 1 year ago
lol
barbozafut 1 year ago
the power to weight ratio of the fsae car is way different from the super cars. it was no competition. we all already knew who was going to win.
this is a great little car though. wouldnt mind driving one of those around.
yajkue 1 year ago
Put ANY production car on the autocross or endurance course of a formula competition and see how they do. That's what these are made for.
D895911 1 year ago
newtons laws. F=ma. No weight, yeah baby. shame about the 20mm air restrictor though, love to see one of these things at over 100mph. And go UOW fsae!!!!
eaxnitro 1 year ago
Hahaha , was it only some 100 meters?Give the M and AMG about 400-800 meters and they will catch that fly!
TZIRNI 1 year ago
Great little car. But what is its use outside the track?
Sorvos 1 year ago
@Sorvos its a competition series. competition car. You'll never see one on the streets. You may find some in people's garage's as a nice piece to talk about. That's it.
Best cars ever. Lots of maintenance.
MiniDin 1 year ago
For all the haters out there...I'd like to see you guys go through the Mechanical Engineering curriculum and fabricate one of these FSAE cars as a senior design project while following 100+ rules...As well as continue your involvement within your FSAE organization at your university even after graduating...FSAE cars are built on different design criteria such as fuel economy, ergonomics, safety, etc...Everything that goes into a city car...Let me remind you that we are all college UNDERGRADS.
xxsaranglubxx 1 year ago
Road cars are not design for all-out performance otherwise you would have to sacrifice comfort and practicality. Just look at Caparo T1 for example, who the hell want to drive that car on the road.
babylon2233 1 year ago
Wigger.
eetoi 1 year ago
Thats the beauty of power-to-weight ratio. Those cars probably weigh 800 lbs, 100 hp...
Probably go somewhere around
0-60 mph in 4.5 seconds, 0-80 in 6.5
Marrowni 2 years ago
@Marrowni Hahahaha so off.
Chones719 1 year ago
@Chones719 So off?? No, my university has one that I've been in the garage with many times. It has a 85 hp honda 750 cc motorcycle engine, weighs about 800 lbs, looks like the ones in the video, and does a calculated 0-60 mph in 4.2 seconds...
As you can see from similar ones in the video, they get to 80 mph no sweat, probably under 7 seconds...
Marrowni 1 year ago
@Marrowni lol sorry i didnt know you were working with such a heavy machine. i am currently working on a car for FSAE at my university and it weighs under 400 lbs goes 0-60 in under 3.5 and tops out at 95 mph.
Chones719 1 year ago
@Chones719 lmfao I thought you thought I was exaggerating. Well I don't know how you got it that light, I mean the roll cage config on ours we guesstimated was 125 lbs alone, the engines probably over 275, there's 400 lbs there. But they go very fast.
Marrowni 1 year ago
@Marrowni are you going to FSAE comp this june in cali?
Chones719 1 year ago
@Chones719 Nah, had the opportunity to join but too busy, maybe join next year... looks good on a resume plus I like cars, but time is limited when you're in engineering
Marrowni 1 year ago
@Marrowni theres more than just power and weight that goes into how fast you get from point a to point b. And FSAE cars are typically in 400-500 lb range. can even get as low as 340. But every car makes different power you wont really see anything higher than 100mph due to restrictions in air flow.
MiniDin 1 year ago
@MiniDin 100hp*
MiniDin 1 year ago
Great looking car!
fricik1987 2 years ago
What do I do? I will gladly tell you. I'm currently employed as a mechanical engineer, I design gearboxes that can handle thousands of horsepower and output up to a few million ft pounds of torque. I was a member of our SAE baja team and can assure you we did plenty of fund raising. Currently I have a baja under construction along side a prototype commuter vehicle that's aesthetic appeal matches is 100mpg calculated fuel economy. What are you doing with your life you jerk?
dain254 2 years ago
@dain254 thought you were an ass till i saw youre a mechanical engineer, never met a m.e. guy that i didnt like
phil656565 1 year ago
it was cool till the gay music was louder than the engine
wasup23tube 2 years ago
you guys are missing the whole point. just the guys f***en credit. they built a sick car. im one of the FSAE teams too. if you think you are so smart then build one your own.
jajas02 2 years ago 4
where're them supercars anyway? didn't see any...
lORDELO2 2 years ago
Don't underestimate FSAE cars. They are CRAZY fast. Our's this year is going to be sick.
technocarmike 2 years ago
0:08 Wigger?
samanamian 2 years ago 3
@samanamian well....it said Nigger....but people got mad.... so they italicized the N and added a line to it to make a W (Btw Im black for all the people that try to respond to my nigger joke in a less than reputable manner)
tevinm14 4 months ago
no shit it's gonna be faster. for the same reason motorcycles are..
hostilepwnsu 2 years ago
yeah well, the FS weights like 500 pounds. But they dont have what other "supercars" have, like air conditioning :P or other kind of shit that adds weight, so theres a great advantage on that.
thesantiso 2 years ago
but remember FSAE cars have crazy restrictions too... like a 20mm air intake restriction upstream of throttle. If it weren't for that restriction the 600cc engines used would perform much much better, and open up possibilities of supercharging ect
bleedinfingers 2 years ago 3
whats the name of the song at the very end of the video? its not English btw. its like the last 10 seconds or so.
mitchellintrieri 2 years ago
Its German.
Wise Guys - Ich schmeiß mein Auto auf den Müll
switzer86 2 years ago
Supercars or taxi's? Nice video though ;-)
protput11 2 years ago
Why are they racing so short distance?. that doesn`t prove anything... although I would like to build one of these :D
Surfo1980 2 years ago
Well no shit, simple Weight:HP ratio.
zachakabob14 2 years ago 3
exactly. and for the people saying that the track was too short (which it was), the FSAE car would still own probably anywhere up to 1/2 mile to 3/4 mile. They usually use sport-bike engines in those things. Let the the FSAE car get past 9 or 10K RPMs and it'll take off even quicker since that's where a lot of sportbikes' peak torque comes in + the car might weigh less than a sportbike does -maybe???
Snipza 2 years ago
the weight is basically the same a sport bike. it usually has between a 250cc and 600cc engine.
there really isn't a speed diff between 250cc and 600cc on a track (turns not 1/4 mile) because after a point u cant put any more power to the ground without spinning tires
it just has 4 wheels instead of 2 to help it handle better in the turns
spikeyeyerish 2 years ago
That shit is such a short distance its not even funny altho it clearly won no doubt about it its stupid to put a e55 and m5 to do 0-60 or short distance races or whatever they were able to reach the e55 and m5 are higher end cars in which that seat with a engine on it would stand no chance.
burritomaker69 2 years ago
F=ma
Raiohis 2 years ago
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Another shining example of over funded engineering students with no imagination.
dain254 2 years ago
As a member of an FSAE team I can tell you that most teams do all of their own fund raising and receive little monetary help from their schools. And if you think that FSAE students are not imaginative or innovative then I would encourage you to attend a compilation and be proved wrong. I think spectator tickets are $25.
afca42 2 years ago
LOL, we actually get fuck all in the way of funds and pretty much have to beg borrow and steal for every peice of material and sponsor that we put into our FSAE car... If only we were over funded! hahaha!
urveen 2 years ago
It was always a bitch trying to raise funds or get parts. We had so many parts that got reused over and over because we couldn't get anything else.
gunnydogs 2 years ago
This video is really pointless. it's a 100hp 500 lb single seater. it's obviously much quicker than a 500hp 4000lb M5. Perhaps it can appeal to the public though just showing how fast a student formula is.
onemaniac 3 years ago
why such short distance?
DanFrederiksen 3 years ago
I think it's the distance set in the tests for formula student, so probably replicating that I guess??? :)
MoleyMolo 3 years ago
because otherwise the amg and the m woulda owned it haha
nikepro911 3 years ago
fsae car has a 20 mm restrictor
combinatorix 2 years ago
quite irrelevant though
DanFrederiksen 2 years ago
this little fsae car was so quick i couldnt even see the super cars..... O_o
thomasmidas 3 years ago
i would not consider them supercars
FlamerK6 3 years ago 4
Put Hoosier Racing Slicks on the sedans like you have on the FSAE CAR and MB E55 AMG and BMW M5 will be eating you. But, still a good effort. That FSAE CAR must fun to drive.
ayyub24 3 years ago
haha, no man...the formula SAE cars go 0-60 in like 3.5sec. those cars -cannot- keep up.
rumblebeast08 3 years ago
Yeah for just 100m...lol thats ofcourse this is physi... jut do the race for at least 200m...
AAStylus 3 years ago
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The cars aren't geared for any more than ~90mph, change the gearing and you'd have another winnning race. 100hp in a 500-600lb car? no sedan on the road can keep up with that power/weight ratio.
rumblebeast08 3 years ago
the song it`s shit!!! i belive you can die!!
samfat32 3 years ago
FSAE Virginia in April!!
96ti 3 years ago
gaanz gaail...!
heinrichguzmann 3 years ago
The race was over before it started. Come on, you can't call that a race, on a track that short.
n1Erik90 3 years ago
the title of the vid should change. its an FSAE car against a heavy m5, the m5 isnt a supercar either. just think about it. power to weight the FSAE car will always dominate. same with bikes. im currently doing an FSAE car this year too. horrible title. cool vid.
risquexp0sur3 3 years ago 2
the engines are 500 cc engines restricted to a 20mm intake. I'm a freshman on my college build team. The last car we built, 2000 season, is pretty sick, Baja is fun, but the speed in formula is fun.
Kuroshine08 3 years ago
I'd sure hope that the car would "eat" a "supercar" It weighs less than 1/6 the weight of the Bimmer, and it's probably using a 600cc motor out of a sportbike, which in itself would destroy any production BMW.
Build yourself a locost, and then you can have a real competition.
AdamtheSmus 3 years ago
ok, let´s build...
it is very easy to just say it
heinrichguzmann 3 years ago
Wigger BMW :) ::giggles::
Chavagnatze 3 years ago 3
BMW is no supercar lol
Roguirio 3 years ago
thats more like 1/10 mile....yay .. video is a dud...
RingerRacing 3 years ago
ppl stop bicthin about the things, these guys tried their best to produce this little machine to go out the world and wih, not like road cars(they are produced only for sales). that is why road cars never can win the FSAE.
and another thing is these guys put there effort and bloody time to make this one piece with on going studying, so c'mon give us some break!!!!!!!!
callmevince 3 years ago 11
oh, and another thing, if you think its unfair... why don't you go and build one road car that beats any FSAE? what? you don't have knowledge and techniques? then just shut the XXXX up please!
callmevince 3 years ago 5
Race in the 1/4 mile? Why? The FSAE car is designed for autocross, where it would beat the M5 by a much larger margin.
benjamin343 3 years ago
The only haters of this challenging competition are those who never possessed enough talent, persistence or patience to get involved themselves. If you're going to talk shit, at least know what the hell you're talking about.
GTRphile 3 years ago 23
WOW MORLENHEIM you`re clearly very stupid or just monumentally ignorant about FSAE!
These "kids" have about 30 WEEKS to design and build the car with an average of about $20k. What is or isnt on the cars is a product of the RULES. You will in fact find many totally origional concepts if you look carefully at a major competition. So carry on laughing, because we are too; at you.
snowygrouch 3 years ago 6
Gotta love FSAE cars! Does anyone know the title and artist of the last song in the video?
DJTBax 3 years ago
R. Kelly - I believe I can fly
JrockV6e 3 years ago
Does that really sound like RKelly to you? Its a cover of that song.
compucar03 3 years ago
me first and the gimme gimmes - I believe I can fly
it's a cover band it's really good and fat mike is playing the bass :)
ActizoL 3 years ago
Why is everybody complaining that it isn't a fair comparison? the FS car might not be as much of an engineering triumph as the saloons but it's still pretty impressive, especially since here in england people of uni age can only afford to insure cars that do 0-60 in 10 secs minimum and then they let you loose in these which can do it in 3.2 secs.
steelysniper 3 years ago
Haha I like how the Beamer says 'Wigger'
faceeyes 3 years ago
THe wieghts are so different
Bonneville230 3 years ago
gay music and gay comparation 300kg to 1700kg.
panam3ra 4 years ago
Good Engrish
petervel 3 years ago 2
this is wack. its just a light weight supper accelerating go cart
sr20DETdrift 4 years ago
the fsae car is geared to top out at 60 to 80. so to race past that would be stupid
4wheeldrifting 4 years ago
different league, cant compare it. thats like comparing doughnuts to muffins.
AwesomeAlvin 4 years ago
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you all are stupid fucks, fisrt of all ALL FSAE cars have a 19mm restrictor plate!, second MOST are less than 400 lbs. my point. that weighs much less than the 600 cbr.. or any bike with the f4i so go suck a cock you motherfuckers
bobogoat1 4 years ago
No need for the hissy fit bruh. I mean, it's not like we're sayin your dream car is a bitch or anything. Why would you get all tied in a knot about something like this? It doesn't do anybody any good.
kruegda 4 years ago
Hmm, and even that is quite hard.
We once put our car against my motorcycle (148hp).
The car managed to take the victory on a 100m drag.
But thats more of the fact that the car uses sticky slicks and a very very tight gear ratio compared to the longer one of the motorcycle.
For sure, above those 100m the cars' chances are quite bad though :)
Slide84 4 years ago
OK, g25racer, than put your evo on the autocross track against an FSAE car. If you manage to go half as fast than your good :)
Gruß und guten Rutsch vom DART Racing Team aus Darmstadt!
DARTCG 4 years ago
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A evo would kill on an autocross track, thats practically what they are made for!!
g25racer 4 years ago
No, it wouldn't. Evo's are designed to be street cars, THEN fast cars. FSAE cars are designed to be fast autocross cars from day one. The list of advantages for the FSAE car is endless. Evo would never, ever, win.
benjamin343 3 years ago 2
lol
mnizzy12 2 years ago
the music at the start is on sky sports news
leeperryismerry 4 years ago
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Put that against a 800HP Evo and well see who wins. The Evo will blow it away with the right driver of course.
g25racer 4 years ago
wow, your such an idiot.....................
DimaK111 4 years ago 6
i cant speak for that car, but UMR's fsae car will do 0-60 in about 3.2-3.5 and top out at about 93 depending on aero and engine tune. if you took the wings off of it, the top speed would be about 120-130. it would beat the crap out of almost any supercar in a drag race, especially if it was 1/8th mile, but anything longer and the supercar would eventually pass. still, a yamaha r6 engine in a 480lb car with 8"wide goodyear slicks and 500+ lbs of downforce at 80 is a LOT more fun to drive!
steelbluesleepR 4 years ago
Why 500+lb of downforce at 80mph? At Formula SAE you rarely get above 60mph? Granted you guys absolutely thrashed everyone in the wide, straight autocross event last year, but are you planning on having more tracks like that to work in your favor?
famousp 4 years ago
i just used that as quantification of what it puts out. the car was wind tunnel tested and when they got back that was the number i was told. i dont know why they used 80 instead of 60, but thats all i heard. i dont really work on the aero side of things aside from laying up some carbon occasionally.
steelbluesleepR 4 years ago
the m5 and e class arnt supercars, their luxury cars. if you actually want to racesomething maby try the merc s class with the v12 (still its a luxury car), if you really want a supercar you should be racing the merc mclaren f1.
flygr8 4 years ago
I am on my schools FSAE team and were pretty much brokeasses. In total, the car takes around 60-75k worth in materials and labour, and mostly from school grants and donations. Admittedly we aren't the best team but its all about getting experience in engineering. And we're a pretty big school, with 37k students. Design is done by 4th year students, the labour is done by students, welding, machining, everything is done in the engineering buildings, all the logistics is done by business students.
h1dek1kun 4 years ago
Well, a bmw ain´t built for racing is it? It´s got confort and safety.
Marrarj 4 years ago
Formula SAE is a joke. Big schools get plenty of money and technical support from outside sources to make the cars the best. EFi tuners doing the programming on a ECU like MoTec, chassis experts basically design and set-up the car, etc... Most entries lie about the amount of money spent and claim students did the work when they merely watched! If a car is winning you can be pretty sure the students had very little or nothing to do with it.
1982NJH 4 years ago
I think that you dont know anything about fomula sae, if you are goinf to talk the next time read some shit about it, because of your comment can say that you are the most ignorant and stupid person i know.
P.D.:Read more, studie something, graduate, drive a f-sae and the you cant talk dump.
marp182 4 years ago
I agree with 1982NJH. I participe on Formula SAE so I I know what I´m talking about.
Marrarj 4 years ago
Well i dont know if you are a particiant of formula sae because in my university we do our car alone without help, we desing it and we construct it and we are the top 25 universtys of the competition, and example cornell they do their car and they have won SAE 9 times.
marp182 4 years ago
I am sure there are plenty of competent welders and machinist enrolled at an Ivy League school like Cornell.... (Please note the sarcasm)
1982NJH 4 years ago
Well men in my university we are the welders the members team, every year we train a person to weld and you are right like some things difficult to machine are made by other persons but we desing all the pieces of the car, for example the calipers are made on CNC this are made by an expert because we dont have CNC in our university, all the pieces that we do out of the uni is because we dont have the machinry to do it in the uni.
marp182 4 years ago
I've watched some of the welds, and it isn't easy to weld .020" wall thickness piping (our fuel rail).
You should also know that Cornell does not give any money to FSAE, all the money comes from sponsors.
aterimperator 4 years ago
rule # 76: no excuses play like a champion.
My school did just fine placing 6th in autocross and 7th in endurance with half the funding of the rest of the top 10 at FSAE west 08. Our car was designed and built 100% buy college students hopped up on mountain dew.
benjamin343 3 years ago
I've not come across any FSAE cars yet running CVTs. Where did you see any Life? These cars can corner at about 1.8+ Gs, which is far ahead of any street-legal super car as of now.
sovietspyguy 4 years ago
yea, and while we're at it lets see if a real f1 car can beat a honda civic...
pleepino 4 years ago
Let that small piece of shit meet a koenings egg...Hahaha laugh my ass of
141FiskeN 4 years ago
Shelby is right. they didnt just take away the sounds of a car, but the people singing the song killed i believe i can fly
jeremybloom1115 4 years ago
Why oh why do so many video editors cover up the nice car sounds with some lame song? The actual editing was good, but lacking in the audio department. Regarding the content, what was that? A 200m(1/8mi) drag race? Even a decent dirtbike would win in that short of a distance. Talk about a handicap for the cars...
65ShelbyClone 4 years ago
That M5 is sponsored by Wigger, LOL! It means white guy who acts like a black guy. Yeah, they should have raised an Enzo against that FSAE car.
redknightricky 4 years ago
Also, how about comparing the top speed of the two cars,
I know the FS thing has better acceleration but can it go 148 MPH (BMW M5)?
ankitprasad 4 years ago
BMW M5 is electronically limited to 155mph (due to an agreement between German prestige manufacturers). Delimited it could do 205mph. The FS cars have a low final drive ratio (acceleration bias over top speed) due to them competing on short twisty tracks, so top speed is fairly irrelevant. They are so acceleration biased that they top out at 80-ish,but some can achieve 0-60 in 3.0 secs.
Lifeofriley18 4 years ago
Yeah, and that is sucking all of their air in through a single 20 mm intake restriction. Even so, some are making over 80 HP with a 600 cc engine. The cars are geared low too take advantage of the motorcycle close ratio gearbox. Even with this extremely low gearing (shift to second at around 30 mph), acceleration is largely traction limited. Taller gearing wouldn't necessary result in lower acceleration, just poorer performance on a low speed autocross course.
boostedbird23 4 years ago
Yeah, I suppose they do spin the wheels easily (even with sticky tyres on!). Many of them are using CVT gearboxes now, so can be tuned to spec slightly more.
What people need to remember is that Formula Student isn't about making the fastest car possible- its about making the car perform as well as possible for the events planned (very tight circuit etc.) on a strict budget and even stricter rules! This video just demonstrates the immense acceleration of an FSAE car.
Lifeofriley18 4 years ago
big deal. try racing the same weight cars..
Vore667 4 years ago
There's a world wide competition at the end of the school year every year...
aterimperator 4 years ago
try plumbing the intake through a 20mm restrictor like the SAE car.
benjamin343 3 years ago
agreeing with CGO.. i didnt even know that a BMW M5 is a "supercar"
craplike123 5 years ago
but that fsae car doesnt have a air conditioner. lol
flygr8 5 years ago
haha this video was on loop in the tent at the competition near us in the UK Formula Student comp (2006). It drove us insane.
alistevenson9 5 years ago
what did u expect duh the power to weight ratio is very in favor of the FS thing. derr I know which one I would rather have though, The E 55 For Sure
CGOStriker2911 5 years ago
no contest, bleagh
neisseriagonorrhoeae 5 years ago
ich nehme lieber den E55 oder den M5
Ubergood 5 years ago
oohh, wer hätte das gedacht :P
screensonic 5 years ago