This is why I like animals more than people. Animals don't come up with the horrid idea of aborting their unborn defenseless children, they take care of them even if they themselves are suffering. I fed tuna fish to some kittens once, their skinny mother just sat by and watched and let them eat all of it. These mothers that abort their children think of themselves first before their young, even ANIMALS are less selfish! Poor babies, they did not deserve being introduced in this life in pieces.
my moher had an abortion when she was young..she was scared and didnt know what to do...she was studying in hong kong. she lived in a strict asian family. she told me awhile ago...i called her a whore...i judged her in so many ways..but now i know the baby lives threw my brother and i. even though my mom wasnt with my dad at the time...the baby is still apart of us. im am against abortion...my brother or sister wouldve been 19 right now.
i was raped and my beautiful daughter is now 5yrs old and i love her will all my heart abortion NO WAY!!! i would have rather died than let some so called doctor rip her from my womb she is my life <3 theres ur answer silverfire134 .....pregnancy is survivable......
Abortion may be an individual decision, but doctors should be jailed for it very much like you'd be condemned is someone pay you to kill them. Very much like suicide the women should do it themselves if it is an individual decision, or even better let the fathers deal with it!
Oh my word! Come on people! How stupid can you get, really!? You are still calling an unborn child a tissue?? I guess that means you are a tissue as well then. Because a piece of tissue doesn't magically turn into a person, right? Oh wait.., we all are tissues, aren't we??According to you, that's what we were in our mothers womb! FOR PETE SAKE!!! You pro-death people are so ignorant! Abortion is murder!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
@Blackcat51292 You really seem not to understand the pro-choice argument. When we say that an unborn child is a tissue, we mean that it is nothing more than a tissue. It's not something that has an established identity nor a being that is considered to have any sort of personhood. We are all just sacks of tissues, yes, but we are people that are members of society, not something that will become part of society. Not to mention that fetuses are part of the woman's womb.
@ScarletGhost4356 Your definition of humanity is very troubling, it could potentially include babies up to 1 yrs old and definitely people with Down Syndrome! Not to mention those born deaf and blind who are unable to develop an established personality as quickly as others! "an unborn child...is nothing more than a tissue" - we don't know that, what we do know however is that it is alive and developing into a healthy human being until you brutally remove it surgically!
@ThinkerPool4 Regardless of what my definition implies (if you could remind me what I said, that would be great), what you have just said substantiates the pro-choice argument: you stated that this being is DEVELOPING into a healthy human, implying that in the stage before the child itself is born, it is not really considered a human being. This is according to what your statement shows anyway.
@ScarletGhost4356 "you stated that this being is DEVELOPING into a healthy human, implying that in the stage before the child itself is born, it is not really considered a human being. This is according to what your statement shows anyway."
I said "is DEVELOPING into a healthy human" NO airhead I didn't mean it wasn't human yet, I simply meant it wasn't growing into a monstruous UNHEALTHY entity whose life you might suggest should be terminated! As usual u saw only what u wanted to c!
@ScarletGhost Look at it any way you want the Pro-Choice argument is basically a senseless selfish individualistic one - it's simply a woman's choice. The lump of tissue is just a cover-up story to make it more aceptable, a 7 months old foetus is as much reliant on the mothers body and therefore no less a parasite than the lump of tissue who in turn is no less a baby than the 7 months unborn foetus! That's wat Feminism does 2 ur mind: alienate mother & baby, woman & body n alienate man & woman.
@Meneope The problem is it is women themselves who have to fight this cause, the moment a man opens his mouth, feminists instantly brand him as the enemy, the oppressor of women, trying to prevent women from having sex! They always bring it down to "a woman's right to enjoy sex as men do!". Also pro-life movements all coming from religious groups doesn't help, since religious systems tend to be patriarchal which give feminists another point of contention against their arch-enemy - men!
@Blackcat51292 ,,BE THANKFUL UR MOTHER KNOWS ABOUT LIFE AND EMBRACES IT THATS WHY U ARE HERE IN THIS WORLD,,,MAYBE THIS U UNDERSTAND BETTER.U TISSUE PAPER,,,,,,,,,,TISSUE BELONG TO THRASH.ARE U?
@letterheadman1 You're absolutely right everyone should have a chance at life, that's also one of the reasons I'm strongly against death sentences.
However EVERYONE shouldn't include pieces of human tissue that are LESS developed than an animal. Babies up to several months or so are even less developed than a monkey of similar age! And if you look at this world now, I don't think a sane person could say it needs any more human beings.
God gave us this beautiful gift to love and cherrish! this is what you pay our one God our Father back? an abortion?!?! God will pay you back as well, look at your belly! your belly should be glowing, happy, excited! MY belly will be big one day, my belley will be happy my belly will be a big big big big big belly with God's amazing beautiful gifts that He sent us and wants us to have! I cant wait to be a mommy! I love children so much! I want to adopt 4 or 5 and have 3 my own!
AMERICA SUCKS THE FUCKING GOVERMENT IS CORRUPT.THIS COUNTRY IS BULLSHIT.YEAH PRO LIFE PEOPLE ARE THE TRUE DEFINITION OF WHAT A NAZI IS.THEY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST UNSTABLE,VULNERABLE POOR WOMEN.THATS ME.WHAT I DID WAS GOOD.ONE LESS ASSWIPE IN THIS FUCKED UP RETARDED WORLD.YEAH COME AND FUCKING GET ME PRO LIFE ASSWIPES.YALL WANT ME DEAD NOW LMFAO THAT AINT VERY PRO LIFE AT ALL.
@jjurado11 "Judges 13:7"But he said to me, 'You will conceive and give birth to a son." your joking right? your seriously going use that flimsy arguement to justify banning abortion. theres no proof "a" god exist its 100 years of misinteptations and chinese wispers. secondly the baby growing in the womens body has no concept of life,its no aware of itself, do you remember being in the womb?. (cont)
@jjurado11 Thirdly banning abortion won't solve anything if a women really doesn't want the baby she just go do the backyard abortion solution which is more dangerous and could lead to death and if you do your research u will find that has happened. fourthly if the church want to stop so much abortion rates they should help promote sex education and condoms.
@schapman235 Abortion should be banned. It's wrong and honestly their may be abortions that are safer than backyard abortions, but they are never actually safe. And for you to say that a woman should not have consequences for their choices, it's like saying that a child abuser, robber or murderer should not have consequences either. Some abortionists abort like 80,000 babies a year and they do it for money. Think about that. Life is precious:)
@LovedbcHim "Abortion should be banned. It's wrong and honestly their may be abortions that are safer than backyard abortions, but they are never actually safe." if actually read what i said i didn't say it was safe i said it would be more "more Dangerous" to have back yard abortion. at least with a clinc the women would have doctors and health care to help if there is any complications of course nothing is ever safe but you can sure lesson the risk of possible death. (cont)
@schapman Oh if pro-choice is pro-choice, then how come we are forced to pay for women's 'choices' out of our tax money, and how come obgyn's can not be obgyn's unless they know how to do abortions, and how come prostitutes and kidnapped children from other countries who are being traficked are actually forced to have an abortion and then sent back with their pimps. Some of those women don't choose that lifestyle and they certainly don't choose abortion, but are forced.That's really not choice
@schapman235 You obviously are a VERY HARD HEARTED PERSON, WHO DOESN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT WOMENS RIGHTS. You know what, out of respect for a singer who is by the way a very godly man who just lost his daughter, whose name is Steve Chapman, you should probably change your user name, because you really give him a bad name. God bless, and that is from the God you don't believe in. I'm done debating with you because you are very hateful.
@LovedbcHim "probably change your user name" why? my name is simon chapman
"VERY HARD HEARTED PERSON, WHO DOESN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT WOMENS RIGHTS" never said i was against womens rights im for womens rights to choose you just didn't really read what i said.
@LovedbcHim "I'm done debating with you because you are very hateful" im not hateful you don't even know me or bothered to get know my views. so because i don't believe in god im hateful person. yeah im staring get the picture on what kind person you are. well don't debate with me then its just proves that i win the arguement.
@schapman235 You may not be a hateful person, but your comments are very hateful, and the fact that I've told you the things that pp does aside from just abortion and the fact that you still are on their side definitely concerns me. And you may not believe in God, but he believes in you, but in the long run, maybe I don't win the argument, but He does. God bless!
"and the fact that I've told you the things that pp does aside from just abortion and the fact that you still are on their side definitely concerns me" i think you misinterperted what i said and made assumptions and im sorry for that i should be more transparent on what i mean.
@schapman235 And you are not really for women's rights when you turn your head the other way while women are forced to have abortions. That's really not women's rights. Those women don't choose, neither do those babies.
@LovedbcHim "women are forced to have abortions" of course thats not choice and i agree with you on that point. thats why i believe in choice to choose to have it or not.
@LovedbcHim "And you are not really for women's rights when you turn your head the other way while women are forced to have abortions" and if you read my early post replying to this i concede that forced abortions is not choice. but you cannot deny a service just because a small minority abuses that right.
so you think we should ban cars because some people break the law? cause its the same here
"Some of those women don't choose that lifestyle" on the issue of prostitutes and child trafficing is just sympton of the bigger problem which is Capitalism, Greed is the problem not the problem of the ethics of abortion.
@schapmanMy daughter was born at 27 weeks and 5 days. If I had continued the pregnancy, both her and I would have died. I had an infection caused by a hotdog, which actually ate away at the placenta so that she had a very low amount of oxygen. She hung on for life for 15 hours, with a short supply of oxygen. I could've very easily said I don't want her to suffer, I want an abortion, but thankfully my dr. was pro-life anyways, and I feel that my rights were taken care of just as much as hers
@Lovedbc "but are forced.That's really not choice" but forcing them to have them isn't choice ethier thats the point im trying relay to you but you seen insistant in ignoring that part. banning abortion won't stop prosititution or child trafficing. stop parroting the church and think for yourself. but it doesn't matter cause logic and science will always win. (cont)
@schapman235 Logic is it's murder, and science says an unborn child or fetus is a human being, so you are contradicting yourself by using science and logic. Unless it's ectopic, abortion is not logical.
@schapman235 Pro-life does not force a woman to have children. That wouldn't be the Christian way, but we do discourage it. Look up Susan B. Komen. Pro-choice supports planned parenthood, but this website will show you what really has been going on at planned parenthood.
@LovedbcHim And for you to say that a woman should not have consequences for their choices" i didn't say women don't have consequences theres consequences for everything we do.
"Some abortionists abort like 80,000 babies a year" anyone can come out with statistic. its whats written within whats counts. if abortion was illegal i bet some of those babies would be born in poverty and have no chance having better life. (cont)
@LovedbcHim and some would be through rape how would you feel if you where raped and then forced have his child? and then the child finds out that he was born through rape than love, how would you feel?.
"child abuser" thats another point that you raise some people shouldn't be parents and if you read my post about the church help promote condoms and sex education then you would probably see the reduction in abortions and more importantly child abuse.
@schapman235 The risk of possible death. The baby already died. Any how, it would hypocrisy for a church to teach about birth control and hand out condoms, when their main focus needs to be teaching youth to stay pure until marriage. There would be a lot less abortions if we would wait for our husbands and we would be taught that at a young age. Oh and I can testify that I would probably want that child that is conceived through rape to be loved. They didn't do anything wrong.
@schapman235 Ugh, the baby is a human being too and should have rights. If there is a risk to the pregnancy then there is such things as premature delivery where the baby and the mom can survive and live a healthy life. My daughter and I were two of those people. So there are other options even for those high risk pregnancy's. Also you really can't predict ahead of time whether a pregnancy is going to be high risk or not, especially in the early stages.
@schapman235 Seriously, most women whose children are conceived in rape do not get abortions. What did the child do to deserve that anyways. And poverty, guess how many children live in poverty today, but are happy to say that they come from loving homes. I think it's more important to children the love they get from their parents, not their money. I am a stay at home mom. We only have one car, and we know what it's like to have help with food, but our daughter is wonderful.
Respond to this video... "I am a stay at home mom. We only have one car, and we know what it's like to have help with food, but our daughter is wonderful." good for you :) it was your choice to do all that. true lot rape victims do decide to keep their babies cause it was their choice to do so but everyone is different and not going to react the same way, but they should and do have the right to terminate as well. (cont)
@schapman235 "They didn't do anything wrong." thats a common argument coming from the church. its basically saying its unfortunate that you got raped, but we don't care your rights we are going to make you have this baby like it or not. its every women right to choose whether they keep it or terminate the church or the gov has no right to dictate how women use their reproductive organ. its what we call oppression of womens rights. (cont)
@LovedbcHim "I am a stay at home mom. We only have one car, and we know what it's like to have help with food, but our daughter is wonderful." good for you :) it was your choice to do all that. true lot rape victims do decide to keep their babies cause it was their choice to do so but everyone is different and not going to react the same way, but they should and do have the right to terminate as well. (cont)
@schapman235 "They didn't do anything wrong." thats a common argument coming from the church. its basically saying its unfortunate that you got raped, but we don't care your rights we are going to make you have this baby like it or not. its every women right to choose whether they keep it or terminate the church or the gov has no right to dictate how women use their reproductive organ. its what we call oppression of womens rights. (cont)
adoption can only go so far according to you 80,000 babies are terminated every year. i don't the figure for how many couple wanting to adopt in America but go find out for me and do the math and come back and tell if its fesible.
@schapman235 But our daughter is wonderful. She's healthy, happy and it's because she has two very loving parents who are willing to sacrifice certain luxuries for her, not sacrifice her (which is what abortion is) All children want is our time, not our money. If everyone in America knew that there would be less children spending a little too much time in day care, there would be less abortions, and more of these children would grow up to be responsible and honest citizens of the U.S.
@schapman235 A friend of mine and her husband have been trying to adopt. They've been trying for years because they can not have children of their own, but the problem is there is not enough children in the system to adopt, and that you can thank abortion for. Walk into a NICU. You might find a baby who has survived an abortion in there. My daughter was born at 27 weeks and 5 days and I did ask a nurse if she had ever taken care of one and she said yes.
@schapman235 And she said it's very difficult to watch them suffer because babies are huge fighters when it comes to hanging onto life. They fight more than anyone else in the world. That is the way God created them from conception. And women who have abortions usually suffer for the rest of their lives.
like the great GEORGE CARLIN said all pro lifers love the fetus but after they are born U are on own No health care no day care , no food stamps no help with education lol
@juandeldiablo696 that is %100 untrue. I work at a crisis pregnancy center and we follow mother and baby up to age 5 and after if they need it. Everything from diapers to cribs to clothes to shoes we have even done baby showers and weddings and ministered a funeral for one of our clients babies that died. What do pro aborts do exactly? kill the baby cash the check and treat the girls like dirt in the process. Maybe think or research before making a dumb untrue comment.
@juandeldiablo696 I can tell u that all prolife organizations and crisis pregnancy centers do the same thing. I have been to several across the country. SO yes 100% untrue. And hateful
Antichoicers, in their noble crusade to ease the suffering of the unborn, are personally responsible for so much real world pain, it would be clearly just if they themselves felt it! Scarcity, global STORMING, and the destruction of LIFE ON EARTH you dark ages foolhardy, despite what you BELIEVE, science will NEVER let you go without the direct blame in history. Your cruelty to all sentient life shall not go unremembered!
The world is always in need of more brains to think and more hands to work! Life always has it's difficulties, but God's grace is seen in challenging men and women born into this world who overcomes them!
you can always give a child to an orphan house. at least you will give him/her a chance to live. If i have to choose from killing and giving away my child for low-income, i will choose the second one.
@therakneruds its not conscious and has no concept of life and its a fetus not human being and like to see you prove otherwise. Banning Abortion will only force them to go backyard. if they want stop people having Abortions prehaps they should spend money on sex education and condoms.
@siddsam Adoption. In the US, there are about half a million couples who seek adoption but there are only about 20,000 adoptions. Furthermore, many women suffer from post-abortion depression and many become suicidal, which is a lot worse than low income or not being able to raise the child herself, wouldn't you say?
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This is why I like animals more than people. Animals don't come up with the horrid idea of aborting their unborn defenseless children, they take care of them even if they themselves are suffering. I fed tuna fish to some kittens once, their skinny mother just sat by and watched and let them eat all of it. These mothers that abort their children think of themselves first before their young, even ANIMALS are less selfish! Poor babies, they did not deserve being introduced in this life in pieces.
Sadowski40 1 month ago
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Sadowski40 1 month ago
my moher had an abortion when she was young..she was scared and didnt know what to do...she was studying in hong kong. she lived in a strict asian family. she told me awhile ago...i called her a whore...i judged her in so many ways..but now i know the baby lives threw my brother and i. even though my mom wasnt with my dad at the time...the baby is still apart of us. im am against abortion...my brother or sister wouldve been 19 right now.
adayinothersshoes 1 month ago
i was raped and my beautiful daughter is now 5yrs old and i love her will all my heart abortion NO WAY!!! i would have rather died than let some so called doctor rip her from my womb she is my life <3 theres ur answer silverfire134 .....pregnancy is survivable......
lifemiss 2 months ago
What if you've been raped?..
(i'm not justifying im just asking)
Silverfire134 3 months ago
Abortion may be an individual decision, but doctors should be jailed for it very much like you'd be condemned is someone pay you to kill them. Very much like suicide the women should do it themselves if it is an individual decision, or even better let the fathers deal with it!
ThinkerPool4 3 months ago
Oh my word! Come on people! How stupid can you get, really!? You are still calling an unborn child a tissue?? I guess that means you are a tissue as well then. Because a piece of tissue doesn't magically turn into a person, right? Oh wait.., we all are tissues, aren't we??According to you, that's what we were in our mothers womb! FOR PETE SAKE!!! You pro-death people are so ignorant! Abortion is murder!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
Blackcat51292 4 months ago 3
@Blackcat51292 You really seem not to understand the pro-choice argument. When we say that an unborn child is a tissue, we mean that it is nothing more than a tissue. It's not something that has an established identity nor a being that is considered to have any sort of personhood. We are all just sacks of tissues, yes, but we are people that are members of society, not something that will become part of society. Not to mention that fetuses are part of the woman's womb.
ScarletGhost4356 4 months ago 2
@ScarletGhost4356 Your definition of humanity is very troubling, it could potentially include babies up to 1 yrs old and definitely people with Down Syndrome! Not to mention those born deaf and blind who are unable to develop an established personality as quickly as others! "an unborn child...is nothing more than a tissue" - we don't know that, what we do know however is that it is alive and developing into a healthy human being until you brutally remove it surgically!
ThinkerPool4 3 months ago
@ThinkerPool4 Regardless of what my definition implies (if you could remind me what I said, that would be great), what you have just said substantiates the pro-choice argument: you stated that this being is DEVELOPING into a healthy human, implying that in the stage before the child itself is born, it is not really considered a human being. This is according to what your statement shows anyway.
ScarletGhost4356 3 months ago
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@ScarletGhost4356 "you stated that this being is DEVELOPING into a healthy human, implying that in the stage before the child itself is born, it is not really considered a human being. This is according to what your statement shows anyway."
I said "is DEVELOPING into a healthy human" NO airhead I didn't mean it wasn't human yet, I simply meant it wasn't growing into a monstruous UNHEALTHY entity whose life you might suggest should be terminated! As usual u saw only what u wanted to c!
ThinkerPool4 2 months ago
@ScarletGhost Look at it any way you want the Pro-Choice argument is basically a senseless selfish individualistic one - it's simply a woman's choice. The lump of tissue is just a cover-up story to make it more aceptable, a 7 months old foetus is as much reliant on the mothers body and therefore no less a parasite than the lump of tissue who in turn is no less a baby than the 7 months unborn foetus! That's wat Feminism does 2 ur mind: alienate mother & baby, woman & body n alienate man & woman.
ThinkerPool4 2 months ago
@Blackcat51292 'tissue' or clump of 'cells' is nothing I've girls calling it, let me quote: "by definition 'a parasite!'"
It's unbelievable.
Meneope 3 months ago
@Meneope The problem is it is women themselves who have to fight this cause, the moment a man opens his mouth, feminists instantly brand him as the enemy, the oppressor of women, trying to prevent women from having sex! They always bring it down to "a woman's right to enjoy sex as men do!". Also pro-life movements all coming from religious groups doesn't help, since religious systems tend to be patriarchal which give feminists another point of contention against their arch-enemy - men!
ThinkerPool4 3 months ago
@Blackcat51292 ,,BE THANKFUL UR MOTHER KNOWS ABOUT LIFE AND EMBRACES IT THATS WHY U ARE HERE IN THIS WORLD,,,MAYBE THIS U UNDERSTAND BETTER.U TISSUE PAPER,,,,,,,,,,TISSUE BELONG TO THRASH.ARE U?
charms1944 1 month ago
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Blackcat51292 4 months ago
All these videos of abortion that are supposed to make me cry and go give birth, they only make me sick of babies and fetuses
21h040349160 4 months ago
Such a powerful video.
L0v32run 5 months ago
Not the most appropriate music for the opening lol
inamonianim 5 months ago
@letterheadman1 You're absolutely right everyone should have a chance at life, that's also one of the reasons I'm strongly against death sentences.
However EVERYONE shouldn't include pieces of human tissue that are LESS developed than an animal. Babies up to several months or so are even less developed than a monkey of similar age! And if you look at this world now, I don't think a sane person could say it needs any more human beings.
ChuckNorris103 7 months ago
God gave us this beautiful gift to love and cherrish! this is what you pay our one God our Father back? an abortion?!?! God will pay you back as well, look at your belly! your belly should be glowing, happy, excited! MY belly will be big one day, my belley will be happy my belly will be a big big big big big belly with God's amazing beautiful gifts that He sent us and wants us to have! I cant wait to be a mommy! I love children so much! I want to adopt 4 or 5 and have 3 my own!
dunwoodie27 8 months ago
Abortion ain't as bad as people think
HowardSternn 8 months ago
I came across this whilst revising for my ethics exam, such a useful video!
sogand94 9 months ago
AMERICA SUCKS THE FUCKING GOVERMENT IS CORRUPT.THIS COUNTRY IS BULLSHIT.YEAH PRO LIFE PEOPLE ARE THE TRUE DEFINITION OF WHAT A NAZI IS.THEY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST UNSTABLE,VULNERABLE POOR WOMEN.THATS ME.WHAT I DID WAS GOOD.ONE LESS ASSWIPE IN THIS FUCKED UP RETARDED WORLD.YEAH COME AND FUCKING GET ME PRO LIFE ASSWIPES.YALL WANT ME DEAD NOW LMFAO THAT AINT VERY PRO LIFE AT ALL.
FoxyAngie1000 9 months ago
"Fetus" means "Offspring," not "Tissue"
Offspring means it's a baby.
Judges 13:7"But he said to me, 'You will conceive and give birth to a son."
Notice that the term "conceive" is the beginning of the process that leads to birth.
The Bible does not say, "You will conceive tissue, which shall become a baby, and... then you will give birth to a son."
jjurado11 1 year ago 7
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@jjurado11 "Judges 13:7"But he said to me, 'You will conceive and give birth to a son." your joking right? your seriously going use that flimsy arguement to justify banning abortion. theres no proof "a" god exist its 100 years of misinteptations and chinese wispers. secondly the baby growing in the womens body has no concept of life,its no aware of itself, do you remember being in the womb?. (cont)
schapman235 1 year ago
@jjurado11 Thirdly banning abortion won't solve anything if a women really doesn't want the baby she just go do the backyard abortion solution which is more dangerous and could lead to death and if you do your research u will find that has happened. fourthly if the church want to stop so much abortion rates they should help promote sex education and condoms.
schapman235 1 year ago
@schapman235 Abortion should be banned. It's wrong and honestly their may be abortions that are safer than backyard abortions, but they are never actually safe. And for you to say that a woman should not have consequences for their choices, it's like saying that a child abuser, robber or murderer should not have consequences either. Some abortionists abort like 80,000 babies a year and they do it for money. Think about that. Life is precious:)
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
@LovedbcHim "Abortion should be banned. It's wrong and honestly their may be abortions that are safer than backyard abortions, but they are never actually safe." if actually read what i said i didn't say it was safe i said it would be more "more Dangerous" to have back yard abortion. at least with a clinc the women would have doctors and health care to help if there is any complications of course nothing is ever safe but you can sure lesson the risk of possible death. (cont)
schapman235 11 months ago
@schapman Oh if pro-choice is pro-choice, then how come we are forced to pay for women's 'choices' out of our tax money, and how come obgyn's can not be obgyn's unless they know how to do abortions, and how come prostitutes and kidnapped children from other countries who are being traficked are actually forced to have an abortion and then sent back with their pimps. Some of those women don't choose that lifestyle and they certainly don't choose abortion, but are forced.That's really not choice
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
@LovedbcHim "then how come we are forced to pay for women's 'choices' out of our tax money,"
so you think giving money help the advancement of womens rights is a bad thing?.
schapman235 11 months ago
@schapman235 You obviously are a VERY HARD HEARTED PERSON, WHO DOESN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT WOMENS RIGHTS. You know what, out of respect for a singer who is by the way a very godly man who just lost his daughter, whose name is Steve Chapman, you should probably change your user name, because you really give him a bad name. God bless, and that is from the God you don't believe in. I'm done debating with you because you are very hateful.
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
@LovedbcHim "probably change your user name" why? my name is simon chapman
"VERY HARD HEARTED PERSON, WHO DOESN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT WOMENS RIGHTS" never said i was against womens rights im for womens rights to choose you just didn't really read what i said.
schapman235 11 months ago
@LovedbcHim "I'm done debating with you because you are very hateful" im not hateful you don't even know me or bothered to get know my views. so because i don't believe in god im hateful person. yeah im staring get the picture on what kind person you are. well don't debate with me then its just proves that i win the arguement.
schapman235 11 months ago
@schapman235 You may not be a hateful person, but your comments are very hateful, and the fact that I've told you the things that pp does aside from just abortion and the fact that you still are on their side definitely concerns me. And you may not believe in God, but he believes in you, but in the long run, maybe I don't win the argument, but He does. God bless!
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
@LovedbcHim "but he believes in you"
"and the fact that I've told you the things that pp does aside from just abortion and the fact that you still are on their side definitely concerns me" i think you misinterperted what i said and made assumptions and im sorry for that i should be more transparent on what i mean.
schapman235 11 months ago
@schapman235 And you are not really for women's rights when you turn your head the other way while women are forced to have abortions. That's really not women's rights. Those women don't choose, neither do those babies.
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
@LovedbcHim "women are forced to have abortions" of course thats not choice and i agree with you on that point. thats why i believe in choice to choose to have it or not.
schapman235 11 months ago
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@LovedbcHim "And you are not really for women's rights when you turn your head the other way while women are forced to have abortions" and if you read my early post replying to this i concede that forced abortions is not choice. but you cannot deny a service just because a small minority abuses that right.
so you think we should ban cars because some people break the law? cause its the same here
schapman235 11 months ago
@schapman235 And PP is also taking part in that greed, especially when they never report child abuse, sex trafficking and prostitution.
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
excuse my ignorance but what does obgyn's mean?.
"Some of those women don't choose that lifestyle" on the issue of prostitutes and child trafficing is just sympton of the bigger problem which is Capitalism, Greed is the problem not the problem of the ethics of abortion.
schapman235 11 months ago
@schapmanMy daughter was born at 27 weeks and 5 days. If I had continued the pregnancy, both her and I would have died. I had an infection caused by a hotdog, which actually ate away at the placenta so that she had a very low amount of oxygen. She hung on for life for 15 hours, with a short supply of oxygen. I could've very easily said I don't want her to suffer, I want an abortion, but thankfully my dr. was pro-life anyways, and I feel that my rights were taken care of just as much as hers
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
@Lovedbc "but are forced.That's really not choice" but forcing them to have them isn't choice ethier thats the point im trying relay to you but you seen insistant in ignoring that part. banning abortion won't stop prosititution or child trafficing. stop parroting the church and think for yourself. but it doesn't matter cause logic and science will always win. (cont)
schapman235 11 months ago
@schapman235 Logic is it's murder, and science says an unborn child or fetus is a human being, so you are contradicting yourself by using science and logic. Unless it's ectopic, abortion is not logical.
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
@schapman235 Pro-life does not force a woman to have children. That wouldn't be the Christian way, but we do discourage it. Look up Susan B. Komen. Pro-choice supports planned parenthood, but this website will show you what really has been going on at planned parenthood.
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
@LovedbcHim "Pro-life does not force a woman to have children." well when it comes to making abortion illegal it does, intentional or not.
schapman235 11 months ago
@LovedbcHim And for you to say that a woman should not have consequences for their choices" i didn't say women don't have consequences theres consequences for everything we do.
"Some abortionists abort like 80,000 babies a year" anyone can come out with statistic. its whats written within whats counts. if abortion was illegal i bet some of those babies would be born in poverty and have no chance having better life. (cont)
schapman235 11 months ago
@LovedbcHim and some would be through rape how would you feel if you where raped and then forced have his child? and then the child finds out that he was born through rape than love, how would you feel?.
"child abuser" thats another point that you raise some people shouldn't be parents and if you read my post about the church help promote condoms and sex education then you would probably see the reduction in abortions and more importantly child abuse.
schapman235 11 months ago
@schapman235 The risk of possible death. The baby already died. Any how, it would hypocrisy for a church to teach about birth control and hand out condoms, when their main focus needs to be teaching youth to stay pure until marriage. There would be a lot less abortions if we would wait for our husbands and we would be taught that at a young age. Oh and I can testify that I would probably want that child that is conceived through rape to be loved. They didn't do anything wrong.
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
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@LovedbcHim "The risk of possible death. The baby already died." i meant the women.
schapman235 11 months ago
@schapman235 Ugh, the baby is a human being too and should have rights. If there is a risk to the pregnancy then there is such things as premature delivery where the baby and the mom can survive and live a healthy life. My daughter and I were two of those people. So there are other options even for those high risk pregnancy's. Also you really can't predict ahead of time whether a pregnancy is going to be high risk or not, especially in the early stages.
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
@schapman235 Seriously, most women whose children are conceived in rape do not get abortions. What did the child do to deserve that anyways. And poverty, guess how many children live in poverty today, but are happy to say that they come from loving homes. I think it's more important to children the love they get from their parents, not their money. I am a stay at home mom. We only have one car, and we know what it's like to have help with food, but our daughter is wonderful.
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
@LovedbcHim "guess how many children live in poverty today" in your country around 40 million give or take.
schapman235 11 months ago
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Respond to this video... "I am a stay at home mom. We only have one car, and we know what it's like to have help with food, but our daughter is wonderful." good for you :) it was your choice to do all that. true lot rape victims do decide to keep their babies cause it was their choice to do so but everyone is different and not going to react the same way, but they should and do have the right to terminate as well. (cont)
schapman235 11 months ago
@schapman235 "They didn't do anything wrong." thats a common argument coming from the church. its basically saying its unfortunate that you got raped, but we don't care your rights we are going to make you have this baby like it or not. its every women right to choose whether they keep it or terminate the church or the gov has no right to dictate how women use their reproductive organ. its what we call oppression of womens rights. (cont)
schapman235 11 months ago
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@LovedbcHim "I am a stay at home mom. We only have one car, and we know what it's like to have help with food, but our daughter is wonderful." good for you :) it was your choice to do all that. true lot rape victims do decide to keep their babies cause it was their choice to do so but everyone is different and not going to react the same way, but they should and do have the right to terminate as well. (cont)
schapman235 11 months ago
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@schapman235 "They didn't do anything wrong." thats a common argument coming from the church. its basically saying its unfortunate that you got raped, but we don't care your rights we are going to make you have this baby like it or not. its every women right to choose whether they keep it or terminate the church or the gov has no right to dictate how women use their reproductive organ. its what we call oppression of womens rights. (cont)
schapman235 11 months ago
adoption can only go so far according to you 80,000 babies are terminated every year. i don't the figure for how many couple wanting to adopt in America but go find out for me and do the math and come back and tell if its fesible.
schapman235 11 months ago
@schapman235 But our daughter is wonderful. She's healthy, happy and it's because she has two very loving parents who are willing to sacrifice certain luxuries for her, not sacrifice her (which is what abortion is) All children want is our time, not our money. If everyone in America knew that there would be less children spending a little too much time in day care, there would be less abortions, and more of these children would grow up to be responsible and honest citizens of the U.S.
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
@schapman235 A friend of mine and her husband have been trying to adopt. They've been trying for years because they can not have children of their own, but the problem is there is not enough children in the system to adopt, and that you can thank abortion for. Walk into a NICU. You might find a baby who has survived an abortion in there. My daughter was born at 27 weeks and 5 days and I did ask a nurse if she had ever taken care of one and she said yes.
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
@schapman235 And she said it's very difficult to watch them suffer because babies are huge fighters when it comes to hanging onto life. They fight more than anyone else in the world. That is the way God created them from conception. And women who have abortions usually suffer for the rest of their lives.
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
@jjurado11 dude,i love your response.
bluedreamer5000 4 months ago
HALLELUJAH!!!!!!
sarahcordero85 1 year ago
Abortion saves lives
Howard Stern
HowardSternn 1 year ago
This video is very emotional, but shows what everyone NEEDS to see. Abortion is evil and I don't know how are government allows it to be legal.
ItsAChildNotAChoice 2 years ago
like the great GEORGE CARLIN said all pro lifers love the fetus but after they are born U are on own No health care no day care , no food stamps no help with education lol
juandeldiablo696 2 years ago
@juandeldiablo696 that is %100 untrue. I work at a crisis pregnancy center and we follow mother and baby up to age 5 and after if they need it. Everything from diapers to cribs to clothes to shoes we have even done baby showers and weddings and ministered a funeral for one of our clients babies that died. What do pro aborts do exactly? kill the baby cash the check and treat the girls like dirt in the process. Maybe think or research before making a dumb untrue comment.
rayrayzmail 1 year ago
100% untrue? just cuz you do some increable work helping people doesn't mean other organisations do the same!
juandeldiablo696 1 year ago
@juandeldiablo696 I can tell u that all prolife organizations and crisis pregnancy centers do the same thing. I have been to several across the country. SO yes 100% untrue. And hateful
rayrayzmail 1 year ago
@rayrayzmail and how is that hatefull
juandeldiablo696 1 year ago
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Antichoicers, in their noble crusade to ease the suffering of the unborn, are personally responsible for so much real world pain, it would be clearly just if they themselves felt it! Scarcity, global STORMING, and the destruction of LIFE ON EARTH you dark ages foolhardy, despite what you BELIEVE, science will NEVER let you go without the direct blame in history. Your cruelty to all sentient life shall not go unremembered!
savercorp 2 years ago
All Prochoicers Need to watch this video! Thanks for making this.. 5 STARS!
jenniferheartsriver 2 years ago
Bravo! 5***** and Fav'd. Very powerful and touching!
SantaCruzProLife 2 years ago
The world is always in need of more brains to think and more hands to work! Life always has it's difficulties, but God's grace is seen in challenging men and women born into this world who overcomes them!
rijochristeena 2 years ago
What about pro-choice arguments that an unplanned pregnancy in a low-income household negatively impacts quality of life for both mother and child?
siddsam 2 years ago
you can always give a child to an orphan house. at least you will give him/her a chance to live. If i have to choose from killing and giving away my child for low-income, i will choose the second one.
Illdanus 2 years ago
@Illdanus
yeah who cares about what the women thinks just as longs she pumps out the children.
schapman235 1 year ago
@schapman235 Yup so let's just kill a living human being so that a woman can have the right to choose. Great idea champ.
therakneruds 1 year ago
@therakneruds its not conscious and has no concept of life and its a fetus not human being and like to see you prove otherwise. Banning Abortion will only force them to go backyard. if they want stop people having Abortions prehaps they should spend money on sex education and condoms.
schapman235 1 year ago
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jjurado11 1 year ago
@siddsam Adoption. In the US, there are about half a million couples who seek adoption but there are only about 20,000 adoptions. Furthermore, many women suffer from post-abortion depression and many become suicidal, which is a lot worse than low income or not being able to raise the child herself, wouldn't you say?
So as for that argument, it's trashed.
randommagnum 1 year ago
@randommagnum Hey I know it was months ago, but thank you. People need to hear what women go through after they have had an abortion.
LovedbcHim 11 months ago
Beautiful!
planetregin 2 years ago