I too miss Hannity & Colmes, although I never agreed with Alan, the show was better with the both of them. Nothing against Shawn but the old format was much better. Although if Alan had taken over the show, I would never watch it, can't stand the guy but together they kinda jelled.
@gibax Probably b/c conservatism is the easiest argument in the book, think about it, just say no to everything. No to Stimulus, no to Health Reform, no to Social Security, no to Medi-Care, no to Civil Rights, no to Regulating Banks, ect. When it comes down to getting things done FOR THE PEOPLE, not the big corporations, I'm going to vote progressive!Ok, now's where you respond with: typical liberal, and you probably expect such words to come from one with such an intellect as mine! Lets hear it
It's not that they can't handle Fox News - it's that Fox News isn't worthy of their presence. I'm sure Democrats could handle a Klan meeting, but wouldn't attend it just to prove it.
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Russert was clearly too busy to see what a circus Fox "news" is. Hundreds of clips, in context, make it clear that the few token "democrats" on Fox are constantly interrupted & rarely get the "last word" despite Bill O'Reilly's lie to the contrary - even some honest conservatives said O'Reilly often gets the last word after lying that his guests can have it. The mostly-conservative Fox *moderators* have the real power and thus rarely lose their so-called "debate" because THEY get the last word.
this entity called d3p3ch3mod3..oh by the way..doesn't that name give you a chill down your conservative spine? Anyway, I asked for a mature response and i get "well republicans told me to go to Iran." What a comeback especially since I wasn't the republican and I gave him the direct question. Change the subject, sound like a martyr and tout the lunatic liberal fringe mantra.
i notice how the loonie liberal fox news haters can't answer questions posed to them. they would rather call anyone who is right of them in other words (moderate)"hitler" and use swear words. Nothing is more vapid then the mind of a bitter simpleton.
lol that's because all you fags ask is loaded questions like "do you still hate america?" and "will you be disappointed if we lost in iraq" and "which program has opposing viewpoints, here i'm going to point out two fox shows with like 5 republicans and 2 democrats for panel discussion and ignore bill oreilly and all this shit and point out one msnbc show that's meant to be commentary from one guy because i'm a big dumb jack ass who doesn't know how to make a correct comparison"
Why is it that liberals love gays until they are "fags", which I guess is right-wingers now...hmmm..."like 5 Republicans"? I've never seen a show that had enough screen space for that many panelists, much less all on one side. Ignore Bill O'Reilly? Well, that's a well-informed viewer...I guess the only show from MSNBC would be Olbermann, whose ratings are half accident, and half people like me who tune in for the comedic value before the 10 o'clock real news.What were your answers, by the way?
I really got you upset. To Bad. And quit calling the Jewish people Jews (that's racist and you know it-but them again Racism lives in the Rep party doesn't it.
"pbilger" Actually, I believe there is more racism in the Demorcratic Party. They think blacks are inferior and need special help. I think black are equal.
Like affirmative action? How much more racist an idea is there? You can't do it on your own, so we will make a law that gives artificial weight to you because you must be inferior. That would be a law of the land. From the Dems. I know it is too recent, but it really cracked me up to see the Clinton's responses when they lost the black vote to Obama. That old Southern Dem came right out of them, and it ain't pretty. That's what I call "the core", or real racism. That's the Dems...
There was a study where applications were turned into employers, some with black sounding names.The 'white' names were vastly more likely to get callbacks.
That's why you need affirmative action for colleges etc. How long have blacks been allowed to go to a non segregated school at all? There are States with confederate flags above the capital & you're saying "have some responsibility & go from living in the projects to attending an Ivy League school, it's easy, just look at Bush"
What's a "black-sounding name", for starters? I'm not even going to go into why I didn't get into Med school, but it is along these lines (except opposite). Put it this way, I averaged 13's on the MCAT. If you don't know, look it up. Blacks got in with 9's to the same school. Bitter? Yeah, a little bit. As far as those flags, I'd burn them, but I'm a Northerner. Matter of fact, I'd burn the whole South one more time to rid the problems. And I'm not talking about the blacks. Burn it!
The study submitted resumes... Some of them had names on them like Lafonda, Shaqeesha, Tyrone, however they're spelled... Other names were names like, Jimmy, Billy bob, Jethro.. Not real examples of what was on the test.
As for the South, if it weren't for the civil rights movement, the Democrats wouldn't have lost the south and there probably wouldnt've been a GOP candidate elected in half a century
Thanks for the info on the names. That actually makes sense, which is why my idea of whiting-out(excuse the phrase) names, addresses, and the high-school one went to would do more to "fairness" than the current standard. As to the south, once again I say burn it and start over. You are right, the worst element of the GOP is the south, same as the DFL. We'd be better of as a nation without them messing up the vote. There is still a divide between North and South on this issue.
Quit trying to control the debate. I have never met a Jew who thought the word Jew was racist. PC is Liberal crap, a debate controller. By the way, weren't the Dems for slavery in the old days(good ole days, I think they call 'em) when those wacky Reps fought that little thing called the Civil War to stop it? In the North, those fun Dems were called "Copperheads", from the venomous snake from the south. Racist party? Uhh...Affirmative action? They need help? Racist? Please...
Yeah, back then those Republicans were called Radical Republicans because of their leftist social beliefs (abolition), and the Democrats were against the federal govt and pro states rights...
Exactly. And lefties are always behind, IMHO, all the way from the start. Yet, I give them credit for fooling voters that it was their idea to start. Good at politics, bad on ideas.
To fox news haters.. Which program does not have opposing viewpoints? a. Hannity and colmes b. O'Reilly c. Fox special report d. olberman countdown your right...D Which program has by far the lowest ratings? a. Hannity and colmes b. O'Reilly c. Fox special report d. olberman countdown your right D Which program is on MSNBC? a. Hannity and colmes b. O'Reilly c. Fox special report d. olberman countdown your right D
yea um i got told by republicans "if you don't like america you can move to iran" for 8 years, which is funny because in iran they don't have freedom of speech, so really the person saying that should move there
point is, if you want a mature argument i'm up for it but if you think billo's debate style if mature debate then i suggest you read up on logical fallacies
Not a bad point. Some, even on the right, think Bill cuts people off too fast. It is his show, he sets the rules (No spin), and the melee follows. I think the show works in general, however. As I said, not a bad point.
It's a matter of opinion but I don't think that people should be cut off at all. It's just as annoying when Chris Matthews does it as when Savage does it. That's how they get ratings,& by presenting data that fill up textbooks into 30 second media blips.
Besides if you've ever been part of something that got reported in the news you know that the media never gets it right regardless of bias. I think Fox has done more to promote ratings over truth than most of the media.
Good point, d3 whatever. I had an encounter myself with the press once, and when I read the interview the next day, I wondered to myself if it was the same reporter that I had talked to the previous day. It wasn't even close. It might be true that Fox loves ratings over content. I could be made to agree on that argument.
It's not just that, if there's anything at all involving the government or a celebrity or anyone in power regardless of politics you can be pretty sure that you're getting about a third of the story and the rest is lies. The media bias argument is so pointless compared to the bias of human error, stupidity, capitalism etc
true, except for the NYT having something on the Abu Ghraib deal for 57 front pages. Human error, stupidity, something, had to account for that. Capitalism, maybe. Left-wing bias, yeah....Clinton getting impeached? Not 57 front-page articles. The surge working? 89% reduction in death? front page NYT? not so much...I agree that It bleeds, it leads, but come on man,Hey, let's root for the winner for a day! Come on! Do you REALLY think that if a Lib came up with the surge, no front page???
I would agree with that. So you agree there is bias in the media? Conservatives get Fox news and the WSJ. Liberals get everything else? That's fair...and balanced. At home where I live, we have the Star Tribune...those on my side call it the Star and Sickle. It isn't even remotely fair to the right. NPR? Come on...MSNBC? CNN? HN? Out of them, we get Beck and Dobbs...that's it. Both of whom tell you they are independent conservatives. Matthews? Anderson? That's what I thought.
Again, I could say the same about talk radio. "You get O'Reilly, Hannity, Savage, Boortz, and all I get is streaming Air America from the internet, BOOHOO"
MSNBC has Scarborough, and judging a networks bias by how many opinion talk show personalities they employ of an ideology is silly since that's probably what's most affected by ratings.
Another thing - more Americans see the liberal networks as objective than the conservative ones. Capitalism is a Democracy, the electoral college isn't.
That last sentence was interesting, got to think about that one awhile...goood one!
You are totally right on the radio thing. On the other hand, would NPR please admit it's liberal? Please? I give Air America credit for at least doing that. As far as Scarborough, he is the def of a RINO. His show isn't too bad ( I used to watch it on MSNBC), but he is no Conservative. That's why I pointed out Dobbs and Beck.
Maybe not a 'true' conservative, but a key Bush cheerleader during the runup to Iraq & an asset to the GOP during elections. I'm not sure if he is now or not, I haven't watched his show in a long time.
You should watch it again. Conservative, not so much...He fills in now for what they lost with the Imus deal. Or, in other words, losing badly to the other cableshows. I like it a little bit, I won't lie, but no Buchanan fire coming out of that show.
I don't think NPR is biased in the same sense as Fox & MSNBC. The fact that they don't profit from ads makes them possibly the least biased of them all if you believe that sensationalism is a bias much more dangerous and more prevalent than ideological bias in a society with freedom of the press.
It's definitely a college campus kind of thing, but that crowd also consists of libertarian conservatives who I think also fit into the intellectual, well read, kind of pretentious campus NPR scene.
Yor a Fashst scumbag, u Fukhar!!! U r a Stoopid Natsi Fukk!! Fokks news is write-winng Krap, they ssooo Stoopit!!! Git yor hed out off yor AssS!1 Eye hope u die, u fuk!!
Sorry, it's hard for me to write in "kind-hearted liberal" LOL!!! Great points. What I wrote you is my daily love from intelligent, kind, liberals. Keep up the fight!
I always think it's funny how NeoCons like to call libs fascist because of handgun laws but they want the government to be able to monitor everything you do on your computer as well as what books you check out from a library and what you buy with your credit card.
Good luck protecting yourselves from the government with your guns when they find out about the revolution via warrantless wiretaps and have 10 guys with dogs and rubber bullet guns breaking into your house for thought crime.
Not a Neo-Con, just a regular Con. You know, old-school. Cons are against everything you just wrote, also. We just want our guns, also. As far as I understand, I thought the wire-taps were only for off-shore calls into the USA. That's never been protected. Even socialists like FDR were all for that measure.
You don't have to BE a NeoCon to vote for them and then go around preaching anti-federalism and low taxes, when your man is creating record deficits and making it legal for armed government agents to break into your house when you're at work to see if you have any drugs.
You lost me on the breaking in for drugs thing. I haven't seen a whole lot of that on the news. I thought it was more on the terrorism slant. Drugs? Not so much...Are you one of those paranoids on drugs who really thinks the Gov is tapping your line from your drug dealer down the block, when they are really tapping some dude in Iraq? Didn't the Supreme Court just throw out a case like this? And as far as the voting, it is obvious that you don't have to be a Dem to vote for a Dem.
Why would the news report on whether or not the Patriot Act was used in a drug raid? Also, why are you trusting the media to tell you if your rights are being violated by the government that's supposed to be protecting them?
The Patriot Act can be used for anything they want to use it for. They don't even have to try to call it terrorism, they can just do it.
Let's think about that one for a minute...MSM? If there was even one case that you just brought up, it would be 24/7/365 on MSM, and front page NYT for half a year, plus the various investigations and calls for impeachment, the usual. Trust the media...kind of funny.
Patriot Act? I say crazy stuff on the net all the time. Fear of door knocking down? Zero. Calls I get from overseas from terrorists? Zero. Terrorists on the run? Priceless!
Got it wrong. They didn't do that, but they're actually trying to make it LEGAL to do that which is even worse.
I don't think you realize the potential problems that are unleashed when a government grants itself power to spy on its own citizens, not to mention the dismissal of constitutional right to privacy.
So know we are down to what they are trying to do? How can it be worse than your previous statement, where they were already doing it? By the way,not spying on citizens,but spying overseas on people calling in to the USA, which,going back to FDR, is what we have done for a long time. Right to privacy? Not from al-queada. No sir. You don't get that one, unless Obama gets put in there. Privacy only goes til treason is involved, which would be accepting calls from terrorists.
The last sentence in your statement is classic fascism. "What are you so afraid of if you don't have anything to hide?" Govt should always fear the people no matter what- a tennet of liberals, conservatives, and the founding fathers. ("Those who would give up [...]freedoms for temporary security," etc..) The Gestapo & the KGB were both created to fight "treason", why? Because "privacy goes til treason is involved", great now you're "safe" but your govt has a fucking Gestapo- Jefferson was right.
Russert was old school journalism and probably couldn't actually get F** and believe that through this station Rupert Murdock could so blatently feed right wing propaganda to the American public.
I watched interviews when Russert was glib, arrogant, and full of himself. Forget being neutral. He was a real puppet of liberal media propaganda and innuendo.
all of you people are retarded, you are going after your own blood, Alan Colmes is also a liberal, I'm a conservative, but i think its odd to go after someone of similar politics.
and i don't even know what you're talking about the left brush things off all the time, just look at clinton with monica, and obama's church problems, the left wanna try and push all that under the rug.
well according to you that's good since you're not supposed to "go after someone of similar politics" now all of a sudden you're bitching... what the fuck? do you think republicans and democrats should judge their own side just as harshly as the other or do you just want it to be a big football game? which is it?
Boy are you really a hater of real Americans. Just because someone doesn't like Fox news doesn't call for you to be such a hater. LOL Keep drinking the Kool-Aid and someday you might be surprise like Jim Jones people. LOL
i don't hate america, i hate people who hate america. i wouldn't live anywhere else. and i hate americans who would rather move to a different country with a fiery passion.
You hate real Americans. You push your illegal parties action and will not let Bush or any Rep's that break American laws to be accountable for their action. You are the ones that are Anti American and you wish to push you Hitler style thinking on everyone else. The only ones that hate America is people like you. You let people break constitutional laws and let them get away with it.
"People can tell you to keep your mouth shut, but it doesn't stop you having your own opinions. Even if people are still very young, they shouldn't be prevented from saying what they think." anne frank, I'm jewish you prick, don't ever say i'm like hitler. and im not a republican either, i'm a constitutionalist. i support a strict interpretation of the constitution. and i would die for this country. would you?
A constitutionalist is a Rep and I'm also Jewish. And I don't care for your Anti American hatred. If you act like Hitler it makes you like Hitler. And if you were a constitutionalist then you would know that Bush/most Rep's have broken constitutional laws for their party.
first of all you contradicted yourself when you say constitutionalists are republicans but republicans break constitutional laws. and second constitutionalists are not necessarily republicans, and i don't support bush on most of his crap. and assuming that i supported bush is like assuming you a stupid bimbo bitch dyke feminist of course that wouldn't be so far from them truth now would it. im sick of naive people like you. damn i'm only 16 and i'm already smarter then some dumb ass old cunt bag
Just like a Rep's always calling some one a name. Gee, I be glad that Rep's time is over and they Party is falling apart. I hope Obama cames down hard on hate talk Radio and TV.
once again i'm not a republican, and why can't conservatives have rush limbaugh and fox news. liberals have EVERYTHING else in media. typical lib wanting to control everything. why won't you people just let communism die. IT DOESN'T WORK. and you people want to cut and run from Iraq and Afghanistan so they can regain control and then in 30 or 40 years my generations going to have to clean that shit up AGAIN. if obama gets elected Israel is doomed. he's not going to protect them. i hope you know.
Sure you can sit behind your computer and say a lot of things. Your mind set is what makes you a Rep. Your rude remards and calling people names that is what Rep's do. Rep's like you have no concept what our constitutions is. You have tried and failed to make this into Germaney of the 21 century. How come 69% of the Jewish people are backing Obama? Take your Armageddon and your hatred somewhere else. Let us REAL Americans handle the gov't. Your fascist's ways are over.
would you stop calling me a fucking republican. god damn you. you are so thick headed. READ MY WORDS. IM NOT A FUCKING REPUBLICAN YOU TWAT. im done with you. you're pathetic anyway. this is your generations last chance at power and i am so thankful. thankfully my generation is more conservative.
If it walks like a Duck and talks like a Duck then it is a Duck and that would be a Rep in your case. I'm not voting for my generation you fool, I'm voting for a new generation and the would be to get rid of the 19 and 20th corporate Fascism that has taken over the USA You sound like a damn Libertarians which is worst then the Rigth wingers or the Neo"Con"'s which are all Rep's. They all believe in some form of fascism. So take your rude month some where else.
Reread your own posting, grab a dictionary, and see who reads like a Fascist. It kills me when Lefties write of Fascism, as they seem to not understand the definition of the term they use. It would usually be beneath me to call them uneducated and clueless, but in this case I will make an exception. Lefties are all fond of labeling people Fascists and Nazis, yet don't get that they are them. I find it funny, to a point. Then I realize they might win. Scary to have real Fascists.
I do understand the fascists way of the Rep's and I do know that the Rep's have been forcing Fascism on Americans. It happen in the late 1900's and early 20th century.
Good for you! Fascism/Nazism: Vegan Enviromentalist Non-smoking Non-experimental on animals Pro-government Hate gays socialist(to be kind) pro-abortion(with the right races) affirmitive action Does that read like the Republican or Democratic platform? I would argue Democratic...or Fascist, as you see, Fascism is actually popular amongst the mob mentality. Republicans are not popular, which, by default, makes them not Fascist. Fascism isn't "forced" by definition...
Tell me how the Nazis were environmentalist, banned smoking, banned animal experimentation (as if that's bad), promoted abortion (which is anti-choice), or promoted affirmative action.
There is Rep's corporate Fascism (late 1800's to the early 1900's and (late 1900's and early now)
Then you have constitutionalist Fascism (Hiring on party lines)
They you have Conservative Fascism (indifference to Liberty and equality, and who cloak their actions in moral superiority while pushing the country further from its constitutional foundation)
I bet you are frantically looking in books, to no avail, to refute these points. Or, on a grander scale, you have a life and are doing better things. I hope for that one, as refuting my points would be a waste of time...
LOL!!!The person calls you no names, and you call him a Fascist!!!LOL!!!!Germany? What? You lost me on that one...Germany? Then the Jews? Is something going on here? Why 69% Jew vote for Obama? I'm gonna let you in on a SHOCKING secret...sssshhh...ssshhhh...sssshhhh...ohhh, Jews always vote about 70% Democrat...Ooops...was that a state secret? I'm in TROUBLE....Liberals are cute, I will give them that. LOL!!!! How about a real debate? LOL!!!! The Fascist...LOL!!!!!Funny!!!
To bad I lost you on that one. Cause you must not believe in the Rep way. Rep's are the new Hitler of world, with they racist, hatered, propaganda and lies. When I take to a Rep I see Hitler just like the plain Real Americans.
Side note: Where are all the camps? Where do they hide them?
I am sick of the Hitler crap. Show me one idea of Hitler that is Republican, besides that crazy crap like freeing slaves, economic freedom, civil rights, low taxes, you know, CRAZY stuff like that...Oh, and let's not even get into abortion, who Hitler called "eugenics". He was for that...Democrats are where on that one? Of course, you know the real reason for the "old support" of abortion was eugenics. Look it up...
i think what you were trying to spell is faux which i hate to break it to is pronounced Foe. which sounds nothing like Fox. if your going to try and use a Homonym make sure its the correct one. and if you don't know what a homonym is get a dictionary.
i think what you were trying to say was you're, which i hate to break it to you is a contraction of you and are, if you're going to use a contraction make sure you have passed the third grade, and if you don't know what the third grade is kill yourself
yes you can use multiple tenses when speaking and writing, the first sentence was directed toward pbilger misspelling faux (which was in the past, hence i used the past tence of you're). then the third sentence was a general statement directed mainly toward the reader. so reading is normally a present tense activity it was in the present tense. how about that.
and i'm guessing your next objection will probably be the fact that i misspelled tense inside the parentheses, this was an easy mistake. as you can see the "s" and "c" keys are fairly close together. this is different from pbilger misspelling faux, because when i wrote that comment i was making a statement about faux sound nothing like fox. and not the actual action of misspelling it.
you're also write on this one as well i should have used homophone but most people here would have thought i was being intolerant of gay people. but considering i'm only 16 y/o which may i add you verbally assaulted. and also considering that i still have two years of high school left. i think i did pretty well. but since winning a youtube comment fight is like being the skinniest kid at fat camp. its all yours congrats you win.
why, may i ask, do you say that? see in the last comment i intentionally tried to use the worst grammar and spelling possible just to irritate you. i do have to say this whole thing is slightly amusing. but, and i think you'll agree with me on this one, we should probably go back to our lives, that is if you have one. but do please tell why you think i'm not human.
mostly because i have no proof that you are human, and because i see no reason for humanized rather than automated repetition of identical meaningless occurances other than general supervision over software
please tell my why I'm responding to your comments. you're obviously some lame loser who has nothing better to do with his life then to push his political beliefs on an "innocent" ( i'm not sure how innocent) teenager. you lame and i'm done goodnight and have a pleasant like. live long and prosper or what ever you lame Trekkies say.
Neoconhater, your statement clearly points out the truth, NBC, CBS, ABC, NPR, MSNBC, CNN are clearly the proganda tools for the Democratic/Left. Thank you for smartly drawing the correct party lines.
Russert is a goon, if a politician doesn't like the idea of appearing on FOX thats their right. Fox is pathetic and is nothing but a propaganda tool for the neocon madmen.
Lol at Republicans being afraid to go up against Colmes, dude is a marshmallow
JMMG2010duke 9 months ago
I too miss Hannity & Colmes, although I never agreed with Alan, the show was better with the both of them. Nothing against Shawn but the old format was much better. Although if Alan had taken over the show, I would never watch it, can't stand the guy but together they kinda jelled.
dfacz 9 months ago
Tim was a lib, but was more impartial and fair in interviews then the others. Sad to see he died.
uzimodem 1 year ago
I miss Hannity & Colmes.
OldRockSongs 2 years ago
No Republicans are afraid to go up against Alan Colmes. I would be more afraid to go up against an autistic four year-old
gibax 3 years ago
@gibax Probably b/c conservatism is the easiest argument in the book, think about it, just say no to everything. No to Stimulus, no to Health Reform, no to Social Security, no to Medi-Care, no to Civil Rights, no to Regulating Banks, ect. When it comes down to getting things done FOR THE PEOPLE, not the big corporations, I'm going to vote progressive!Ok, now's where you respond with: typical liberal, and you probably expect such words to come from one with such an intellect as mine! Lets hear it
yfz450mane 1 year ago
It's not that they can't handle Fox News - it's that Fox News isn't worthy of their presence. I'm sure Democrats could handle a Klan meeting, but wouldn't attend it just to prove it.
icu812a 3 years ago
tim russert
rip
Xdrakemanx 3 years ago 7
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Russert was clearly too busy to see what a circus Fox "news" is. Hundreds of clips, in context, make it clear that the few token "democrats" on Fox are constantly interrupted & rarely get the "last word" despite Bill O'Reilly's lie to the contrary - even some honest conservatives said O'Reilly often gets the last word after lying that his guests can have it. The mostly-conservative Fox *moderators* have the real power and thus rarely lose their so-called "debate" because THEY get the last word.
pamReagan 3 years ago
this entity called d3p3ch3mod3..oh by the way..doesn't that name give you a chill down your conservative spine? Anyway, I asked for a mature response and i get "well republicans told me to go to Iran." What a comeback especially since I wasn't the republican and I gave him the direct question. Change the subject, sound like a martyr and tout the lunatic liberal fringe mantra.
newt0830 3 years ago
man, the world of journalism is really gonna miss Tim Russert
CoMa7oSe 3 years ago
i notice how the loonie liberal fox news haters can't answer questions posed to them. they would rather call anyone who is right of them in other words (moderate)"hitler" and use swear words. Nothing is more vapid then the mind of a bitter simpleton.
newt0830 3 years ago
lol that's because all you fags ask is loaded questions like "do you still hate america?" and "will you be disappointed if we lost in iraq" and "which program has opposing viewpoints, here i'm going to point out two fox shows with like 5 republicans and 2 democrats for panel discussion and ignore bill oreilly and all this shit and point out one msnbc show that's meant to be commentary from one guy because i'm a big dumb jack ass who doesn't know how to make a correct comparison"
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
Why is it that liberals love gays until they are "fags", which I guess is right-wingers now...hmmm..."like 5 Republicans"? I've never seen a show that had enough screen space for that many panelists, much less all on one side. Ignore Bill O'Reilly? Well, that's a well-informed viewer...I guess the only show from MSNBC would be Olbermann, whose ratings are half accident, and half people like me who tune in for the comedic value before the 10 o'clock real news.What were your answers, by the way?
minnbassman 3 years ago
I really got you upset. To Bad. And quit calling the Jewish people Jews (that's racist and you know it-but them again Racism lives in the Rep party doesn't it.
pbilger 3 years ago
"pbilger" Actually, I believe there is more racism in the Demorcratic Party. They think blacks are inferior and need special help. I think black are equal.
MayanEndTimeDec2012 3 years ago
No dear your wrong. You cloak your racism around the laws of the land.
pbilger 3 years ago
Like affirmative action? How much more racist an idea is there? You can't do it on your own, so we will make a law that gives artificial weight to you because you must be inferior. That would be a law of the land. From the Dems. I know it is too recent, but it really cracked me up to see the Clinton's responses when they lost the black vote to Obama. That old Southern Dem came right out of them, and it ain't pretty. That's what I call "the core", or real racism. That's the Dems...
minnbassman 3 years ago
There was a study where applications were turned into employers, some with black sounding names.The 'white' names were vastly more likely to get callbacks.
That's why you need affirmative action for colleges etc. How long have blacks been allowed to go to a non segregated school at all? There are States with confederate flags above the capital & you're saying "have some responsibility & go from living in the projects to attending an Ivy League school, it's easy, just look at Bush"
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
What's a "black-sounding name", for starters? I'm not even going to go into why I didn't get into Med school, but it is along these lines (except opposite). Put it this way, I averaged 13's on the MCAT. If you don't know, look it up. Blacks got in with 9's to the same school. Bitter? Yeah, a little bit. As far as those flags, I'd burn them, but I'm a Northerner. Matter of fact, I'd burn the whole South one more time to rid the problems. And I'm not talking about the blacks. Burn it!
minnbassman 3 years ago
The study submitted resumes... Some of them had names on them like Lafonda, Shaqeesha, Tyrone, however they're spelled... Other names were names like, Jimmy, Billy bob, Jethro.. Not real examples of what was on the test.
As for the South, if it weren't for the civil rights movement, the Democrats wouldn't have lost the south and there probably wouldnt've been a GOP candidate elected in half a century
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
Thanks for the info on the names. That actually makes sense, which is why my idea of whiting-out(excuse the phrase) names, addresses, and the high-school one went to would do more to "fairness" than the current standard. As to the south, once again I say burn it and start over. You are right, the worst element of the GOP is the south, same as the DFL. We'd be better of as a nation without them messing up the vote. There is still a divide between North and South on this issue.
minnbassman 3 years ago
Quit trying to control the debate. I have never met a Jew who thought the word Jew was racist. PC is Liberal crap, a debate controller. By the way, weren't the Dems for slavery in the old days(good ole days, I think they call 'em) when those wacky Reps fought that little thing called the Civil War to stop it? In the North, those fun Dems were called "Copperheads", from the venomous snake from the south. Racist party? Uhh...Affirmative action? They need help? Racist? Please...
minnbassman 3 years ago
Yeah, back then those Republicans were called Radical Republicans because of their leftist social beliefs (abolition), and the Democrats were against the federal govt and pro states rights...
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
Exactly. And lefties are always behind, IMHO, all the way from the start. Yet, I give them credit for fooling voters that it was their idea to start. Good at politics, bad on ideas.
minnbassman 3 years ago
rest in peace brother
gaypod 3 years ago 2
newt0830 3 years ago
to fox news lovers...
get ready to lose some fucken elections haha
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
we'll see.....Mr. maturity
newt0830 3 years ago
yea um i got told by republicans "if you don't like america you can move to iran" for 8 years, which is funny because in iran they don't have freedom of speech, so really the person saying that should move there
point is, if you want a mature argument i'm up for it but if you think billo's debate style if mature debate then i suggest you read up on logical fallacies
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
Not a bad point. Some, even on the right, think Bill cuts people off too fast. It is his show, he sets the rules (No spin), and the melee follows. I think the show works in general, however. As I said, not a bad point.
minnbassman 3 years ago
It's a matter of opinion but I don't think that people should be cut off at all. It's just as annoying when Chris Matthews does it as when Savage does it. That's how they get ratings,& by presenting data that fill up textbooks into 30 second media blips.
Besides if you've ever been part of something that got reported in the news you know that the media never gets it right regardless of bias. I think Fox has done more to promote ratings over truth than most of the media.
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
Good point, d3 whatever. I had an encounter myself with the press once, and when I read the interview the next day, I wondered to myself if it was the same reporter that I had talked to the previous day. It wasn't even close. It might be true that Fox loves ratings over content. I could be made to agree on that argument.
minnbassman 3 years ago
It's not just that, if there's anything at all involving the government or a celebrity or anyone in power regardless of politics you can be pretty sure that you're getting about a third of the story and the rest is lies. The media bias argument is so pointless compared to the bias of human error, stupidity, capitalism etc
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
true, except for the NYT having something on the Abu Ghraib deal for 57 front pages. Human error, stupidity, something, had to account for that. Capitalism, maybe. Left-wing bias, yeah....Clinton getting impeached? Not 57 front-page articles. The surge working? 89% reduction in death? front page NYT? not so much...I agree that It bleeds, it leads, but come on man,Hey, let's root for the winner for a day! Come on! Do you REALLY think that if a Lib came up with the surge, no front page???
minnbassman 3 years ago
LOL i REALLY doubt that they covered the Clinton impeachment less than Abu Ghraib.
Besides, you point out the NYT, I'll point out the Wall Street Journal. What's your point?
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
I would agree with that. So you agree there is bias in the media? Conservatives get Fox news and the WSJ. Liberals get everything else? That's fair...and balanced. At home where I live, we have the Star Tribune...those on my side call it the Star and Sickle. It isn't even remotely fair to the right. NPR? Come on...MSNBC? CNN? HN? Out of them, we get Beck and Dobbs...that's it. Both of whom tell you they are independent conservatives. Matthews? Anderson? That's what I thought.
minnbassman 3 years ago
Again, I could say the same about talk radio. "You get O'Reilly, Hannity, Savage, Boortz, and all I get is streaming Air America from the internet, BOOHOO"
MSNBC has Scarborough, and judging a networks bias by how many opinion talk show personalities they employ of an ideology is silly since that's probably what's most affected by ratings.
Another thing - more Americans see the liberal networks as objective than the conservative ones. Capitalism is a Democracy, the electoral college isn't.
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
That last sentence was interesting, got to think about that one awhile...goood one!
You are totally right on the radio thing. On the other hand, would NPR please admit it's liberal? Please? I give Air America credit for at least doing that. As far as Scarborough, he is the def of a RINO. His show isn't too bad ( I used to watch it on MSNBC), but he is no Conservative. That's why I pointed out Dobbs and Beck.
minnbassman 3 years ago
Maybe not a 'true' conservative, but a key Bush cheerleader during the runup to Iraq & an asset to the GOP during elections. I'm not sure if he is now or not, I haven't watched his show in a long time.
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
You should watch it again. Conservative, not so much...He fills in now for what they lost with the Imus deal. Or, in other words, losing badly to the other cableshows. I like it a little bit, I won't lie, but no Buchanan fire coming out of that show.
minnbassman 3 years ago
I don't think NPR is biased in the same sense as Fox & MSNBC. The fact that they don't profit from ads makes them possibly the least biased of them all if you believe that sensationalism is a bias much more dangerous and more prevalent than ideological bias in a society with freedom of the press.
It's definitely a college campus kind of thing, but that crowd also consists of libertarian conservatives who I think also fit into the intellectual, well read, kind of pretentious campus NPR scene.
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
Yor a Fashst scumbag, u Fukhar!!! U r a Stoopid Natsi Fukk!! Fokks news is write-winng Krap, they ssooo Stoopit!!! Git yor hed out off yor AssS!1 Eye hope u die, u fuk!!
Sorry, it's hard for me to write in "kind-hearted liberal" LOL!!! Great points. What I wrote you is my daily love from intelligent, kind, liberals. Keep up the fight!
minnbassman 3 years ago
I always think it's funny how NeoCons like to call libs fascist because of handgun laws but they want the government to be able to monitor everything you do on your computer as well as what books you check out from a library and what you buy with your credit card.
Good luck protecting yourselves from the government with your guns when they find out about the revolution via warrantless wiretaps and have 10 guys with dogs and rubber bullet guns breaking into your house for thought crime.
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
Not a Neo-Con, just a regular Con. You know, old-school. Cons are against everything you just wrote, also. We just want our guns, also. As far as I understand, I thought the wire-taps were only for off-shore calls into the USA. That's never been protected. Even socialists like FDR were all for that measure.
minnbassman 3 years ago
You don't have to BE a NeoCon to vote for them and then go around preaching anti-federalism and low taxes, when your man is creating record deficits and making it legal for armed government agents to break into your house when you're at work to see if you have any drugs.
You talk the talk, but do you walk the walk?
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
You lost me on the breaking in for drugs thing. I haven't seen a whole lot of that on the news. I thought it was more on the terrorism slant. Drugs? Not so much...Are you one of those paranoids on drugs who really thinks the Gov is tapping your line from your drug dealer down the block, when they are really tapping some dude in Iraq? Didn't the Supreme Court just throw out a case like this? And as far as the voting, it is obvious that you don't have to be a Dem to vote for a Dem.
minnbassman 3 years ago
Why would the news report on whether or not the Patriot Act was used in a drug raid? Also, why are you trusting the media to tell you if your rights are being violated by the government that's supposed to be protecting them?
The Patriot Act can be used for anything they want to use it for. They don't even have to try to call it terrorism, they can just do it.
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
Let's think about that one for a minute...MSM? If there was even one case that you just brought up, it would be 24/7/365 on MSM, and front page NYT for half a year, plus the various investigations and calls for impeachment, the usual. Trust the media...kind of funny.
Patriot Act? I say crazy stuff on the net all the time. Fear of door knocking down? Zero. Calls I get from overseas from terrorists? Zero. Terrorists on the run? Priceless!
minnbassman 3 years ago
Got it wrong. They didn't do that, but they're actually trying to make it LEGAL to do that which is even worse.
I don't think you realize the potential problems that are unleashed when a government grants itself power to spy on its own citizens, not to mention the dismissal of constitutional right to privacy.
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
So know we are down to what they are trying to do? How can it be worse than your previous statement, where they were already doing it? By the way,not spying on citizens,but spying overseas on people calling in to the USA, which,going back to FDR, is what we have done for a long time. Right to privacy? Not from al-queada. No sir. You don't get that one, unless Obama gets put in there. Privacy only goes til treason is involved, which would be accepting calls from terrorists.
minnbassman 3 years ago
The last sentence in your statement is classic fascism. "What are you so afraid of if you don't have anything to hide?" Govt should always fear the people no matter what- a tennet of liberals, conservatives, and the founding fathers. ("Those who would give up [...]freedoms for temporary security," etc..) The Gestapo & the KGB were both created to fight "treason", why? Because "privacy goes til treason is involved", great now you're "safe" but your govt has a fucking Gestapo- Jefferson was right.
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
Depechemode,
Exactly spot on!!!
Research0digo 2 years ago
Russert was old school journalism and probably couldn't actually get F** and believe that through this station Rupert Murdock could so blatently feed right wing propaganda to the American public.
sineaddeburca 3 years ago
I watched interviews when Russert was glib, arrogant, and full of himself. Forget being neutral. He was a real puppet of liberal media propaganda and innuendo.
MayanEndTimeDec2012 3 years ago
I agree, but at least he was good at it, not like the other hacks...
minnbassman 3 years ago
RIP Tim
KirbyPwnz13 3 years ago 4
all of you people are retarded, you are going after your own blood, Alan Colmes is also a liberal, I'm a conservative, but i think its odd to go after someone of similar politics.
woodchucker23 4 years ago
if you think you should let your own side off the hook youre a pretty dumb ass american
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago 2
no you're the dumb ass because you had to use profanity.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
and i don't even know what you're talking about the left brush things off all the time, just look at clinton with monica, and obama's church problems, the left wanna try and push all that under the rug.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
well according to you that's good since you're not supposed to "go after someone of similar politics" now all of a sudden you're bitching... what the fuck? do you think republicans and democrats should judge their own side just as harshly as the other or do you just want it to be a big football game? which is it?
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
Boy are you really a hater of real Americans. Just because someone doesn't like Fox news doesn't call for you to be such a hater. LOL Keep drinking the Kool-Aid and someday you might be surprise like Jim Jones people. LOL
pbilger 3 years ago
i don't hate america, i hate people who hate america. i wouldn't live anywhere else. and i hate americans who would rather move to a different country with a fiery passion.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
You hate real Americans. You push your illegal parties action and will not let Bush or any Rep's that break American laws to be accountable for their action. You are the ones that are Anti American and you wish to push you Hitler style thinking on everyone else. The only ones that hate America is people like you. You let people break constitutional laws and let them get away with it.
pbilger 3 years ago
"People can tell you to keep your mouth shut, but it doesn't stop you having your own opinions. Even if people are still very young, they shouldn't be prevented from saying what they think." anne frank, I'm jewish you prick, don't ever say i'm like hitler. and im not a republican either, i'm a constitutionalist. i support a strict interpretation of the constitution. and i would die for this country. would you?
woodchucker23 3 years ago
A constitutionalist is a Rep and I'm also Jewish. And I don't care for your Anti American hatred. If you act like Hitler it makes you like Hitler. And if you were a constitutionalist then you would know that Bush/most Rep's have broken constitutional laws for their party.
pbilger 3 years ago
first of all you contradicted yourself when you say constitutionalists are republicans but republicans break constitutional laws. and second constitutionalists are not necessarily republicans, and i don't support bush on most of his crap. and assuming that i supported bush is like assuming you a stupid bimbo bitch dyke feminist of course that wouldn't be so far from them truth now would it. im sick of naive people like you. damn i'm only 16 and i'm already smarter then some dumb ass old cunt bag
woodchucker23 3 years ago
Just like a Rep's always calling some one a name. Gee, I be glad that Rep's time is over and they Party is falling apart. I hope Obama cames down hard on hate talk Radio and TV.
pbilger 3 years ago
once again i'm not a republican, and why can't conservatives have rush limbaugh and fox news. liberals have EVERYTHING else in media. typical lib wanting to control everything. why won't you people just let communism die. IT DOESN'T WORK. and you people want to cut and run from Iraq and Afghanistan so they can regain control and then in 30 or 40 years my generations going to have to clean that shit up AGAIN. if obama gets elected Israel is doomed. he's not going to protect them. i hope you know.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
Sure you can sit behind your computer and say a lot of things. Your mind set is what makes you a Rep. Your rude remards and calling people names that is what Rep's do. Rep's like you have no concept what our constitutions is. You have tried and failed to make this into Germaney of the 21 century. How come 69% of the Jewish people are backing Obama? Take your Armageddon and your hatred somewhere else. Let us REAL Americans handle the gov't. Your fascist's ways are over.
pbilger 3 years ago
would you stop calling me a fucking republican. god damn you. you are so thick headed. READ MY WORDS. IM NOT A FUCKING REPUBLICAN YOU TWAT. im done with you. you're pathetic anyway. this is your generations last chance at power and i am so thankful. thankfully my generation is more conservative.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
If it walks like a Duck and talks like a Duck then it is a Duck and that would be a Rep in your case. I'm not voting for my generation you fool, I'm voting for a new generation and the would be to get rid of the 19 and 20th corporate Fascism that has taken over the USA You sound like a damn Libertarians which is worst then the Rigth wingers or the Neo"Con"'s which are all Rep's. They all believe in some form of fascism. So take your rude month some where else.
pbilger 3 years ago
get a life loser. seriously its pathetic that you even care about a youtube comment argument. get a hobby.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
LOL Your the one that answer my commit for three months ago. LOL You need to get a life. LOL
pbilger 3 years ago
Reread your own posting, grab a dictionary, and see who reads like a Fascist. It kills me when Lefties write of Fascism, as they seem to not understand the definition of the term they use. It would usually be beneath me to call them uneducated and clueless, but in this case I will make an exception. Lefties are all fond of labeling people Fascists and Nazis, yet don't get that they are them. I find it funny, to a point. Then I realize they might win. Scary to have real Fascists.
minnbassman 3 years ago
I do understand the fascists way of the Rep's and I do know that the Rep's have been forcing Fascism on Americans. It happen in the late 1900's and early 20th century.
pbilger 3 years ago
minnbassman 3 years ago
Tell me how the Nazis were environmentalist, banned smoking, banned animal experimentation (as if that's bad), promoted abortion (which is anti-choice), or promoted affirmative action.
I expect a source for all this shit.
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
There is Neo Fascism (Blackwater-Ice-Minuteman)
There is Rep's corporate Fascism (late 1800's to the early 1900's and (late 1900's and early now)
Then you have constitutionalist Fascism (Hiring on party lines)
They you have Conservative Fascism (indifference to Liberty and equality, and who cloak their actions in moral superiority while pushing the country further from its constitutional foundation)
IT'S CALLED REP FASCISM.
pbilger 3 years ago
I bet you are frantically looking in books, to no avail, to refute these points. Or, on a grander scale, you have a life and are doing better things. I hope for that one, as refuting my points would be a waste of time...
minnbassman 3 years ago
LOL!!!The person calls you no names, and you call him a Fascist!!!LOL!!!!Germany? What? You lost me on that one...Germany? Then the Jews? Is something going on here? Why 69% Jew vote for Obama? I'm gonna let you in on a SHOCKING secret...sssshhh...ssshhhh...sssshhhh...ohhh, Jews always vote about 70% Democrat...Ooops...was that a state secret? I'm in TROUBLE....Liberals are cute, I will give them that. LOL!!!! How about a real debate? LOL!!!! The Fascist...LOL!!!!!Funny!!!
minnbassman 3 years ago
To bad I lost you on that one. Cause you must not believe in the Rep way. Rep's are the new Hitler of world, with they racist, hatered, propaganda and lies. When I take to a Rep I see Hitler just like the plain Real Americans.
pbilger 3 years ago
Wow!
Side note: Where are all the camps? Where do they hide them?
I am sick of the Hitler crap. Show me one idea of Hitler that is Republican, besides that crazy crap like freeing slaves, economic freedom, civil rights, low taxes, you know, CRAZY stuff like that...Oh, and let's not even get into abortion, who Hitler called "eugenics". He was for that...Democrats are where on that one? Of course, you know the real reason for the "old support" of abortion was eugenics. Look it up...
minnbassman 3 years ago
has any republican ever noticed that clinton paid the deficit off LOL
Hellaciousoutlaw 3 years ago
minnbassman
Eugenics came from us (USA, sadly), just one example? DOG SHOWS.
PS, there are camps. They began to be built under Reagan. (The very same Neocons as the real power behind 'arbusto', btw).
Back when arbusto was guv of Texas, he said "I'm just the face in front of the cameras".
Research0digo 2 years ago
That's called Fascism. Thank you for pointing out what you are.
minnbassman 3 years ago
LOL No real American would go on Fax make-up-your-know-news program. LOL
pbilger 4 years ago 4
i think what you were trying to spell is faux which i hate to break it to is pronounced Foe. which sounds nothing like Fox. if your going to try and use a Homonym make sure its the correct one. and if you don't know what a homonym is get a dictionary.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
i think what you were trying to say was you're, which i hate to break it to you is a contraction of you and are, if you're going to use a contraction make sure you have passed the third grade, and if you don't know what the third grade is kill yourself
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
"you were", as in past tense of "you are". jerk-off.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
funny that you said "if your going to" then, since "are going to" is future tense
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
yes you can use multiple tenses when speaking and writing, the first sentence was directed toward pbilger misspelling faux (which was in the past, hence i used the past tence of you're). then the third sentence was a general statement directed mainly toward the reader. so reading is normally a present tense activity it was in the present tense. how about that.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
and i'm guessing your next objection will probably be the fact that i misspelled tense inside the parentheses, this was an easy mistake. as you can see the "s" and "c" keys are fairly close together. this is different from pbilger misspelling faux, because when i wrote that comment i was making a statement about faux sound nothing like fox. and not the actual action of misspelling it.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
there is no english contraction for you were, and if there was it wouldn't be spelled "your" like the pronoun
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
i know there isn't a english contraction for you were, so i spelled out you were. i didn't even try to use a contraction.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
"if your going to try and use a Homonym make sure its the correct one"
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
you're also write on this one as well i should have used homophone but most people here would have thought i was being intolerant of gay people. but considering i'm only 16 y/o which may i add you verbally assaulted. and also considering that i still have two years of high school left. i think i did pretty well. but since winning a youtube comment fight is like being the skinniest kid at fat camp. its all yours congrats you win.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
you are not a human being
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
why, may i ask, do you say that? see in the last comment i intentionally tried to use the worst grammar and spelling possible just to irritate you. i do have to say this whole thing is slightly amusing. but, and i think you'll agree with me on this one, we should probably go back to our lives, that is if you have one. but do please tell why you think i'm not human.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
mostly because i have no proof that you are human, and because i see no reason for humanized rather than automated repetition of identical meaningless occurances other than general supervision over software
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
seriously? for you to think that all of that was written by software then you need a psychiatrist.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
not written by software, just copy pasted.
psychiatrists are just brainwashers ha
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
please tell my why I'm responding to your comments. you're obviously some lame loser who has nothing better to do with his life then to push his political beliefs on an "innocent" ( i'm not sure how innocent) teenager. you lame and i'm done goodnight and have a pleasant like. live long and prosper or what ever you lame Trekkies say.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
you're right on this one. my mistake. i didn't see it when i was writing it.
woodchucker23 3 years ago
Neoconhater, your statement clearly points out the truth, NBC, CBS, ABC, NPR, MSNBC, CNN are clearly the proganda tools for the Democratic/Left. Thank you for smartly drawing the correct party lines.
1goat 4 years ago
how about fox? its not a propaganda tool?
GstateBALLER925 3 years ago 2
Russert is a goon, if a politician doesn't like the idea of appearing on FOX thats their right. Fox is pathetic and is nothing but a propaganda tool for the neocon madmen.
Neoconhater 4 years ago 4