Dr Miskolczi showed that the solution to a differential equation for the greenhouse effect developed in 1922 by Arthur Milne, wrongly assumed an infinitely thick atmosphere. In re-solving this equation a new term and also a new law of physics have been proposed setting an upper limit to the greenhouse effect. Dr Miskolczis theory indicates that any warming from elevated atmospheric carbon dioxide will eventually be offset by a change in atmospheric moisture content.
what do you think melting ice will do to the areas that it flows to? Surely it will cool the water that it flows to. The weather that forms over this much colder sea will be colder as well. Please distinguish global warming, that is causing the arctic ice to melt and local effects, that cause cooling. The cooling will only be temporary. Once all the ice melts - I'm glad I won't be around then. Still I care for and pity the living beings that mayl still be around.
It is unintelligible why international Environment Ministers use so much economic resources to trawelling in Arctic countries. Use all so much economic reources to Social preventive initiatives.
Have an open relationchip and cooperation with international scientists. Please.
"Aside from views of cattails and blackbirds, the marshes in the lower Hudson Valley near New York City offer an amazingly detailed history of the area's climate. Sediment layers from a tidal marsh in the Hudson River Estuary have preserved pollen from plants, seeds, and other materials. These past remnants allowed researchers from Columbia University, New York, N.Y. and NASA to see evidence of a 500 year drought from 800 AD to 1300 AD,"
My records are indicating the coldest April recorded with temperatures plummeting 22 degrees below April's Average! We have snow on the ground and we are going into May. Slightly north of us they are getting pounded with up to 15 inches of snow.
Some generalize about global climate using their local temps; an adolescent's error in logic. In their denial and ignorance some search for ANYTHING to support their baseless opinions.
It is a FACT that ALL of our historically reliable scientific institutions have concluded that humans are contributing to global warming. For the sake of our future generations we must overcome ignorance, fear, denial, and vested interests to deal with this crisis.
Others generalize about global warming by basing their facts over a very short period of time - my very point. Think about how old our earth is: if you went back in time at a rate of 1 year for every second, by the time you were 30, you would be around the time of Christ. True research would involve the life of the earth - not just what is convenient to make your argument. Too many qualified experts as sited many times are not convinvced about gw.
All this white man travellers (tourists)to "rescue" the planet is not alone ridiculous, the mill.of resource they use for nothing, can used for rescue daily life to build dam around the world in lower areas. This is legalized corruption or insufficient consideration and cheat of World Citizen.
My weather station records temps every hour. Comparing Feb 07 to Feb 08, the 08 temp was 13.8 on average cooler. March was colder by 13.6 degrees. In 20 years, the avg mean temp will drop from an avg of 20 F to -110 F. Based on this raw data, we are entering an ice age.
Interesting that they mentioned halibut populations. How come they dont ever mention overfishing? I cant find any real signs of the scientific method being used. They simply assume everything is being caused by global warming, and work from there in their (albiet simplistic) observations of Greenland.
Wow, for people who dont believe in global warming, get outside more. Where I live, we used to get snow all the time 15 years ago. Now we get barely anything. You people just cant accept the fact that were the ones doing it. Its reality guys, and something needs to be done about it and fast. The reason why big decisions concerning the prevention of GW havent been done yet is because people are afraid of change.
I just recently read about a group of scientists who plotted the occurrence of sun spots against global warming, guess what, there's a link. Do you really think the scientists in this video are going to put their funding at risk and say "NO, the planet isn't warming because of greenhouse gases"
Correct me if I am wrong. The ice has been melting for at least 10 to 15000 years or so. Most of North America was covered by ice at one time. One example is Central Park in New York has rock evidence of the glaciers that covered that area. But to these enviro folks it is a new thing with ice melting. These people don't have a life, they just sit around and think up shit to make everybody else's life just as miserable as theirs.
not wanting to sound like a hippy coz i fucken hate them but is,nt it unnatural how much shit we put into our own atmosphere i live in a city and see it everyday does it not worry you
Is so sad to read some comments. Looks like it will take another 30 years until people recognize the problem. Lucky new generations are more responsible and aware of the problem and luckly some good ol' guys will be some feed under beem recycling.
I think the world is in a constant state of minor fluctuation including climate change. A look at the real graphs will prove this. Not the short incorrect graphs used by Al Gore in his campaign to prove to you that we should let the UN ration our fuel supplies.
Coronet...which "real" graphs?...the ones dummied up by the global coalition of concerned scientists who are a well funded and thinly veiled front group for Exxon-Mobile, Texaco, and other oil industry corporations? THOSE graphs?
The ones that show a larger time span. They are taking a very short time span into consideration. IF you look at the bigger picture it shows that the current increase in temps is small compared to earths trends over the last say million years. Also, that CO2 increases after temps go up- something they dont mention- because they are using this data to control you and world politics.
Coronet...you are seriously trying to advance that point to argue against actions to control or mitigate climate change??
The temperature increase that we have seen so far (approx 1.1 F over 30 years [which is an incredibly sharp rise historically]) is NOTHING compared to the rise the earth already committed to experiencing in the next 5-100 years. The Climate Change "show of the millenia" will be appearing soon in a neighborhood near you.
More so, the arguement of CO2 levels increasing AFTER the temp increase (seeming to argue that temp increase CAUSES high CO2 levels is scientifically unsupported. What is supported are the feedback mechanisms that occur after CO2 levels force temperatures higher...such as melting permafrost and other biotic sources releasing HUGE volumes of methane from decaying organic matter. over 100's of years, the methane decomposes into CO2 (and H2O)...which possible explains the effect you allege.
OH I'm sorry,I Seem to have rattled some people's pagan ,Green religion .Fact is Kyoto would do exactly that.Also note this inconvenient fact-The ice record shows the CO2 rising AFTER the temperature increase.I see by the downward thumbs some of you are working to censor me- typical ,but no surprise.
That's the evil dilemna, and it is a point. It seems that in order to move the ball forward, you have to participate in the fossil-energy-intensive activities that we cease in the future. I'd hate to think how much CO2 AL Gore created presenting his Inconvenient Truth series, as good and necessary as it was.
I'm sure it took a few jet flights... In the grand scheme of things, it's not that much to get the message out. I saw the same thing in Alaska. Seeing all of the glaciers recede there really convinced me that we have a problem on our hands.
The idea of man-caused global warming,is pure folley.The Vikings lived for generations on Greenland,before climate change froze them out.If global warming ,is really a threat,we should spend our time and treasure preparing for it,not impovershing ourselves shutting down our industry.That'NUTS!
Thrummer - As usual, the misinformed present the world with a false choice: shut down industry in order to mitigate climate change. Please educate yourself before spouting this misleading gibberish.
Unfortunately, you are completely mistaken. Most all scientists agree that global warming is really a threat. The only disagreements now are about where the tipping point is. We don't have to impoverish ourselves to reduce CO2 emissions. We just can't continue using fossil fuels at the rate we do anymore.
Ocean levels have been 20 ft higher and 200 ft lower than where they are currently. Change over time is the norm. This push that started with elite and government think tanks is another form of taxation that they are pushing on you. They are also trying to reduce your right to travel freely. You'll see it more clearly in another 10 years.
The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.
· The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia.
· The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting; the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.
When I was in junior high about 25 years ago, the joke was that Ronald Reagan would turn this country into what it once was: An arctic region covered with ice. I guess the thing that makes me most skeptical is that I don't see any of us being within our rights to assume that the Earth is at its optimum climate. How can we know what the Earth's perfect climate is? If we could, then I guess we could work to maintain that climate, but I don't think humans are a match for Mother Nature or God.
Google climate change news... "Survival of man rest on climate change action"
"There have been enough wake-up calls... The systematic destruction of the earth's natural and nature-based resources has reached a point where the economic viability of economies is being challenged - and where the bill we hand on to our children may prove impossible to pay."
Make a difference. Contact your policy makers and demand a change in the way we generate and use power.
you don't know. That is quite subjective. You only know what the media is telling you. Wake up. C02 is not a dangerous gas. We exhale C02. I am all for protecting the enviroment but not from C02. The earth emits more than humans. The biggest green house gas of all is water vapor.
Obviously your life has been so comfortable you haven't thought to develop opinions of your own, but this is one of the privileges of having joined the club,
Due to the plastic flow property of ice it's normal for ice to flow and collapse into the sea, in fact the larger and higher the ice mass the more this takes place.
Anyone who denies global warming and all the BIG problems that will bring (sea level, population shift etc) over the next coupla hundred years probably thinks George W has a brain.
At least George W. Doesn't back down. You speak like a true liberal. What have the Dems accomplished since they hosed the voters in the last election. Nothing. If you want to talk about someone, talk about Al Gore as he is the one who invented global warming just like he did the internet. Anyway, time to watch some footbal...
That was sarcasm. I won't hold your comment against you since you were only 10 years old when Gore made an unsuccessful bid for president 8 years ago. He did at one point say he invented the Internet.
It's a nice idea... the traveling and learning about bigger issues... I just wish the videos were done better... and the interviews better thought out.
People, why are you debating with these global warming skeptics? Don't you see that is exactly what they want? This is not a debatable topic, at least not to laypeople, but they have turned the discussion to make it sound like it IS debateable. Would you debate on whether or not someone has a particular kind of brain cancer? No, because you aren't doctors. So stop wasting your time with these losers.
Ur right the temp rises and fall, but the average temp is gradually rising. Since gthe beginning of the industrial rev the temp has spiked big time and will continue to rise. Learn the basic science of global warming and you will see why its is a runaway effect.
Well the way I look at it is,does anybody really know why this is happening?Me myself,Im falling towards what Megatronwatcha Is describing in his comment.Good luck on your findings....
I hope your icecream cake didn't melt either. I believe in global warming, humans putting permanent poisons into natural materials ect. But you see my friends. All the other planets in our galaxy are warming up to. The Sun fluctuates in heat. Just like an oil heater with a resister. Ask your mates at NASA
You can't go to Greenland and "witness" global warming. There's no context by which to judge what's going on. NWF is just hoodwinking people. Fact is, a warming similar to the last decade, though more rapid, occurred in the 1920s and was likely accompanied by the same glacier acceleration. All before man could have contributed. In other words, recent events in Greenland fall within natural variation.
I can't help but think this is a boondoggle because nothing is really said that can't be said in America. Show us! Show us a time lapse video with stakes positioned to prove ice is moving at 2 ft/day. Show us the dying polar bears because of global warming. Don't just talk about the beauty in 3-5 minute installments. People need to see your work not your working "vacation". This is why I don't donate to some of these non-profits..
In reality glaciers 'do' melt when its not winter, and during snowfall it builds up again on top for a long period of time. Its the give and take that is failing, these videos over dramatise it. It is still a serious issue, but the video is in a tad warmer time of year.
Sit around and talk, talk talk talk. They wont be able to fix it, the earth is tired of us, the earth has run it's course, time for everyone to party like it's 1999!! then maybe they're won't be as many people wanting to argue, just for the sake of argument.Society has become a bunch of complainers. No probs cus there's always some dubass who gives a fuck.
this codename36 guy is a real peice of work, clearly you know nothing about oil, war, or politics..so dont try and make some half assed argument about current evens because your wasting both of our time. thanks you ignorant nerd
Pathetic bunch of eco-tourists. "We had a great lunch but now we're back to hear about the problems." A village of 45 people have a desalinzation plant? because the glacier receded??
No doubt the refugees in Darfur as well as their tormentors wish they had such access to water.
Can we say that the allocation of resouces is so absurd as to ... make us think of Europeans?
i personally do not want to see people talking too much about global warming and all when they should ACT NOW AND DO SOMETHING RATHER THAN SHOW YOUR FACE on cam. You guys just want to be watched and exposed. damn! self fulfillment and not concern u are after all.
Man codename you really are a fucking idiot. You just proved it yourself. Listen man, global warming is real...whether we have a greater impact on it or not...its a real thing...its a natural thing and we may be speeding it up. Either way it'll happen eventually so maybe we can slow it down a bit by not being a bunch of fucking idiots that could care less about what God has given us.
Democrats use "Global Warming" to sidetrack people from the real issues like the fucking war and the terrorists who wanna kill us. But let me guess, you probably think terrorists are a myth right? You probably think the government is behind 9/11 huh? You fucking dumasses can't think for yourselfs!
ahhhhhhhh "cant think for yourselfs" listen to what your saying you ass, the terror threat is the thing sidetracking everyone because it is so blown out of proportion, while your whitehouse has shit all over your constitution....but hey from looking at your profile is looks like you got better things like xbox 360 and halo to tihnk about..if you did any real thinking you'd know exactly what the war in the middle east is really about
if the earth is actually okay. if everything we are shown is a lie. why was climate change picked as the lie? why not global shrinking? that would work. the media could carry on their fearmongering... "as the world continues to shrink your property will be reduced in size! and will be worth less, and then the markets will collapse and then..." i think the truth is between the extremes. something is clearly changing. but no one can get the whole picture with much accuracy.
my god people if you are going to post something of ''great importance'' can u make it significant enough so it warrants me watching it. its like a wanky video diary. that really does f-all for the cause. giv us stats. donot misuse this outlet
Well it's not about blaming. There ain't much time left to do that anyway. All of us gotta start to act RIGHT NOW or we're doomed. But I don't wanna turn the computer off though lol oh well ima start by turning the light off :/ which I actually did now.
WHy the Hell are they always trying to BLAME the AMERICANS what about the chines and japanes!? they are some of the WORSE POLUTERS IN THE WOLD! and they SKATE BY WHY EVERYONE ELSE IS BLAMEING THE U.S.!Why do u think the have OXYGEN BARS IN CHINA AND JAPAN! com'on ppl are you guys really the nieve!? yes we may contribute to it but they have a fair share in this to so STOP BLAMING THE U.S. AND LOOK AROUND OUTSIDE THE BUBBLE AT OTHER COUNTRYS!
watch some news or the discovery channel instead of humping your damn pickup truck. You might learn something. Do some research too, if your brain can handle it.
I guess my concern is the people featured in this video are all rich white retired academia who have their nest egg all set in place, while the burden of reducing Global Warming will as usual, fall on the backs of the working poor and middle class. I don't see the financially secure giving up their carefree lifestyles and their Volvo's and Subaru's anytime soon.
Why is it unfortunate that people are leaving villages like this? That sounds like progress to me. Why do these Americans want people outside of the United States to continue living rural lifestyles?
global warming is natural and is not caused by man check out "the great global warming swindle" and get all the facts predictweather dot com has great info too, total co2 is only 0.54% of the atmosphere, and only 0.2% of that in total is from us, co2 increases after the earth heats up, greenland expands and melts all the time
Well we tax Americans of course. according to algore and all his loons we're the cause of all the worlds problems. It's lonely at the top. Even our own countrymen are mad at us for being the best.
Global Warming happens naturally for sure, however, with all the forgin toxins we Humans put into the environment it's a little irresponsible to say we dont play a part in the whole thing... but wait.. Americans NEVER accept responsibility for their actions
The arguments I am reading below (that deny climate change) are invariably fallacious. Ad Hominem, 'Straw-manning', reason by analogy...you name it, those from the Red States know of no other way to argue (even though it's completely wrong). Learn to argue properly, then the rest of the world will listen to you and stop thinking you're a bunch of unintelligent, dirt-grubbing hicks.
There used to be a glaciers that ran across New Hampshire a half a million years ago and cut notches through the White Mountains. does that mean that Global Warming began back then?
You know, I really did watch this with an open mind. I wanted to see if the natual occurance of any warming ( warming is also happening on Mars - it's solar cycles at work and has been for eons ) had any effect on the coastal areas. Zero, zip, nada - no info given. If there is evidence of advancing coast lines whay wouldn't they show it? Are they just inept? It's apparently just not there.
What a crock of crap! They traveled half way accross the world and went to lunch? They learned nothing at all! If they did learn anything they sure as heck didn't share it in that video. Another bunch of wealthy snobs trying to inflate their egos.
Hey, Mr. "open mind"--What makes you think these people are rich and, to make them even worse, snobs? I always suspect the opinion of those who make assumptions about people they know nothing about because that is symptomatic of the "closed mind".....BTW, I'm not rich.
GuitarBob6--Would you describe oil company executives who get bonuses of millions ( as of today, a barrel of oil has hit the $85 mark--insuring more bonuses) as belonging to thr "idle rich". Or are they the hard working rich? This whole question of global warming should be debated without pointing angry fingers at rich, poor, liberal,right-wing, etc. Don't you agree?
Scientists worldwide supports the existence of man-made global climate change, period. And this is the consensus of real scientists across the worlds, not a handful of misinformed and/or politically motivated posters on Youtube. But please, don't take my word for it; google the IPCC and read the reports.
Don't confuse man-made climate change with man-made GLOBAL climate change. Specific instances of climate change due to pollution is not sufficient evidence that human interaction with nature can change the entirety of global climate. It's implausible to believe that scientists can run experiments on the human effect on global climate due to the immense number of variables existent in the causes of climate.
Go read about the "Global Freezing" disaster of 1975. That's right, scientists in the 70's believed there was a second ice age approaching... You can't just change from ice age to global warming in 3o years guys. Look at the solar activity trends. When the sun gets hotter, the earth gets hotter. We aren't gonna change anything about the earths temperature.
Global warming in Greenland my arse. Planes crashed in Greenland 60 years ago and have recently been dug up. Have a guess how deep they had to dig considering global warming etc. They where on top of rocks? 5 feet? NO 260 FEET!! thats right in the last 60 years 260 feet of ice was deposited on top of those planes. Explain that MR Global warming. Google- ww2 planes found in greenland under ice
Most of the people who put negative comments on this page either work for big gas and oil firms, are shareholders in these types of firms, don't love their kids, or don't have any, or are the type of person that if given the chose between saving a persons life or making loads of money would take the money. If everyone just did a little bit to stop global warming we could slow it down and stop it all together. I can hear their voices 20 years from now "O'no where's all this water coming from"
Over the last 100 years the media has warned about global cooling, then global warming, then global cooling again and now it's back to global warming. They know there is a limited amount of time before the evidence turns against their beliefs. This video shows how much money is to be made from global warming. Ecco tourism is hot. There is no conspiracy to knock global warming for the oil companies. Dr. Gray will be shown to be correct. Just be patient.
Wrong, I have 2 yound children and do not hold stock in any oil companies. I am just smart enought to realize that all of this Global warming histeria is a left wing anti-capitalist crock of crap. We need to protect our environment, no question. However, this is nothing more than a political agenda.
You make me sick, septic, because you are the polluter, you are the cause. You would make the whole world a desert if you needed to, to keep your humvees on the freeway.
We need to also think about polar cities for the future, year 2500 or so. Google the term or Wikipedia it or look for my blog of same name: polar cities. We need them.
Dr Miskolczi showed that the solution to a differential equation for the greenhouse effect developed in 1922 by Arthur Milne, wrongly assumed an infinitely thick atmosphere. In re-solving this equation a new term and also a new law of physics have been proposed setting an upper limit to the greenhouse effect. Dr Miskolczis theory indicates that any warming from elevated atmospheric carbon dioxide will eventually be offset by a change in atmospheric moisture content.
judomagyar 1 year ago
Dear Onremlop,
what do you think melting ice will do to the areas that it flows to? Surely it will cool the water that it flows to. The weather that forms over this much colder sea will be colder as well. Please distinguish global warming, that is causing the arctic ice to melt and local effects, that cause cooling. The cooling will only be temporary. Once all the ice melts - I'm glad I won't be around then. Still I care for and pity the living beings that mayl still be around.
Regards, Alex
lessya1 2 years ago
It is unintelligible why international Environment Ministers use so much economic resources to trawelling in Arctic countries. Use all so much economic reources to Social preventive initiatives.
Have an open relationchip and cooperation with international scientists. Please.
you2bmind 2 years ago
The great white tourst arrive and finds the problem interesting, then returns home to breed and shop some more.
The population of the planet increases at three people per second. Unless you start there, you ignore the real problem.
CubistCafe 3 years ago
Warmer in the past than now :
"Aside from views of cattails and blackbirds, the marshes in the lower Hudson Valley near New York City offer an amazingly detailed history of the area's climate. Sediment layers from a tidal marsh in the Hudson River Estuary have preserved pollen from plants, seeds, and other materials. These past remnants allowed researchers from Columbia University, New York, N.Y. and NASA to see evidence of a 500 year drought from 800 AD to 1300 AD,"
ScienceDaily May 19, 2005
SauceMystery 3 years ago
More bad news about our Mother Earth.
My records are indicating the coldest April recorded with temperatures plummeting 22 degrees below April's Average! We have snow on the ground and we are going into May. Slightly north of us they are getting pounded with up to 15 inches of snow.
onremlop 3 years ago
Some generalize about global climate using their local temps; an adolescent's error in logic. In their denial and ignorance some search for ANYTHING to support their baseless opinions.
It is a FACT that ALL of our historically reliable scientific institutions have concluded that humans are contributing to global warming. For the sake of our future generations we must overcome ignorance, fear, denial, and vested interests to deal with this crisis.
To help curb GW...
WeCanSolveIt(dot)org
ReduceGHGs 3 years ago
Others generalize about global warming by basing their facts over a very short period of time - my very point. Think about how old our earth is: if you went back in time at a rate of 1 year for every second, by the time you were 30, you would be around the time of Christ. True research would involve the life of the earth - not just what is convenient to make your argument. Too many qualified experts as sited many times are not convinvced about gw.
onremlop 3 years ago
All this white man travellers (tourists)to "rescue" the planet is not alone ridiculous, the mill.of resource they use for nothing, can used for rescue daily life to build dam around the world in lower areas. This is legalized corruption or insufficient consideration and cheat of World Citizen.
you2bmind 3 years ago
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There was a time during the Medieval Warm Period that Vikings farmed regions of Greenland that are now, today--3/31/08, covered in snow and ice.
There was less ice and snow on Greenland then. What is happening now falls within the boundries of normal occurance in the earth.
MagentaTrue 3 years ago
This january was on a global scale the coldest om record...
Right now in Greenland they are having problems with there being a lot more ice than usual and it's staying longer than normal.
These people just don't know shit... really.
mrAndersen72 3 years ago
My weather station records temps every hour. Comparing Feb 07 to Feb 08, the 08 temp was 13.8 on average cooler. March was colder by 13.6 degrees. In 20 years, the avg mean temp will drop from an avg of 20 F to -110 F. Based on this raw data, we are entering an ice age.
onremlop 3 years ago
Interesting that they mentioned halibut populations. How come they dont ever mention overfishing? I cant find any real signs of the scientific method being used. They simply assume everything is being caused by global warming, and work from there in their (albiet simplistic) observations of Greenland.
markslord3 3 years ago
Wow, for people who dont believe in global warming, get outside more. Where I live, we used to get snow all the time 15 years ago. Now we get barely anything. You people just cant accept the fact that were the ones doing it. Its reality guys, and something needs to be done about it and fast. The reason why big decisions concerning the prevention of GW havent been done yet is because people are afraid of change.
LeafsFan120 4 years ago
I just recently read about a group of scientists who plotted the occurrence of sun spots against global warming, guess what, there's a link. Do you really think the scientists in this video are going to put their funding at risk and say "NO, the planet isn't warming because of greenhouse gases"
tabaloany 4 years ago
Correct me if I am wrong. The ice has been melting for at least 10 to 15000 years or so. Most of North America was covered by ice at one time. One example is Central Park in New York has rock evidence of the glaciers that covered that area. But to these enviro folks it is a new thing with ice melting. These people don't have a life, they just sit around and think up shit to make everybody else's life just as miserable as theirs.
avionicswirenut 4 years ago
not wanting to sound like a hippy coz i fucken hate them but is,nt it unnatural how much shit we put into our own atmosphere i live in a city and see it everyday does it not worry you
aranmpy 4 years ago
Is so sad to read some comments. Looks like it will take another 30 years until people recognize the problem. Lucky new generations are more responsible and aware of the problem and luckly some good ol' guys will be some feed under beem recycling.
luczyball 4 years ago
I think what this means is that we should start buying real estate in Greenland.
trisiti 4 years ago
I think the world is in a constant state of minor fluctuation including climate change. A look at the real graphs will prove this. Not the short incorrect graphs used by Al Gore in his campaign to prove to you that we should let the UN ration our fuel supplies.
coronet67 4 years ago
Coronet...which "real" graphs?...the ones dummied up by the global coalition of concerned scientists who are a well funded and thinly veiled front group for Exxon-Mobile, Texaco, and other oil industry corporations? THOSE graphs?
Please.
Jangle2007 4 years ago 3
The ones that show a larger time span. They are taking a very short time span into consideration. IF you look at the bigger picture it shows that the current increase in temps is small compared to earths trends over the last say million years. Also, that CO2 increases after temps go up- something they dont mention- because they are using this data to control you and world politics.
coronet67 4 years ago
Coronet...you are seriously trying to advance that point to argue against actions to control or mitigate climate change??
The temperature increase that we have seen so far (approx 1.1 F over 30 years [which is an incredibly sharp rise historically]) is NOTHING compared to the rise the earth already committed to experiencing in the next 5-100 years. The Climate Change "show of the millenia" will be appearing soon in a neighborhood near you.
Jangle2007 4 years ago 2
More so, the arguement of CO2 levels increasing AFTER the temp increase (seeming to argue that temp increase CAUSES high CO2 levels is scientifically unsupported. What is supported are the feedback mechanisms that occur after CO2 levels force temperatures higher...such as melting permafrost and other biotic sources releasing HUGE volumes of methane from decaying organic matter. over 100's of years, the methane decomposes into CO2 (and H2O)...which possible explains the effect you allege.
peakman2006 4 years ago 2
These are very interesting videos
BeautyBuyNature 4 years ago
OH I'm sorry,I Seem to have rattled some people's pagan ,Green religion .Fact is Kyoto would do exactly that.Also note this inconvenient fact-The ice record shows the CO2 rising AFTER the temperature increase.I see by the downward thumbs some of you are working to censor me- typical ,but no surprise.
thrummer1953 4 years ago
Now they're on a boat. Off the plane into the boat. I take it you drove to the harbour. Get where I'm going with this??
tabaloany 4 years ago
That's the evil dilemna, and it is a point. It seems that in order to move the ball forward, you have to participate in the fossil-energy-intensive activities that we cease in the future. I'd hate to think how much CO2 AL Gore created presenting his Inconvenient Truth series, as good and necessary as it was.
Jangle2007 4 years ago
I'm sure it took a few jet flights... In the grand scheme of things, it's not that much to get the message out. I saw the same thing in Alaska. Seeing all of the glaciers recede there really convinced me that we have a problem on our hands.
milofonbil 4 years ago
Soon, world will a the end. or please clean-up!. and stop boom babys.
deafnativepride 4 years ago
The idea of man-caused global warming,is pure folley.The Vikings lived for generations on Greenland,before climate change froze them out.If global warming ,is really a threat,we should spend our time and treasure preparing for it,not impovershing ourselves shutting down our industry.That'NUTS!
thrummer1953 4 years ago
Thrummer - As usual, the misinformed present the world with a false choice: shut down industry in order to mitigate climate change. Please educate yourself before spouting this misleading gibberish.
Jangle2007 4 years ago
Unfortunately, you are completely mistaken. Most all scientists agree that global warming is really a threat. The only disagreements now are about where the tipping point is. We don't have to impoverish ourselves to reduce CO2 emissions. We just can't continue using fossil fuels at the rate we do anymore.
milofonbil 4 years ago
Rural/ island depopulation is a global phenomenum. It has nothing to do with climate change.
SteveWrathall 4 years ago
Ocean levels have been 20 ft higher and 200 ft lower than where they are currently. Change over time is the norm. This push that started with elite and government think tanks is another form of taxation that they are pushing on you. They are also trying to reduce your right to travel freely. You'll see it more clearly in another 10 years.
triathlete007 4 years ago 2
The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.
· The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia.
· The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting; the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.
louis12346 4 years ago
When I was in junior high about 25 years ago, the joke was that Ronald Reagan would turn this country into what it once was: An arctic region covered with ice. I guess the thing that makes me most skeptical is that I don't see any of us being within our rights to assume that the Earth is at its optimum climate. How can we know what the Earth's perfect climate is? If we could, then I guess we could work to maintain that climate, but I don't think humans are a match for Mother Nature or God.
flash7725 4 years ago
Google climate change news... "Survival of man rest on climate change action"
"There have been enough wake-up calls... The systematic destruction of the earth's natural and nature-based resources has reached a point where the economic viability of economies is being challenged - and where the bill we hand on to our children may prove impossible to pay."
Make a difference. Contact your policy makers and demand a change in the way we generate and use power.
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ReduceGHGs 4 years ago
you don't know. That is quite subjective. You only know what the media is telling you. Wake up. C02 is not a dangerous gas. We exhale C02. I am all for protecting the enviroment but not from C02. The earth emits more than humans. The biggest green house gas of all is water vapor.
nattorro 4 years ago 2
Eat crap 1000000000000 flies can't be wrong !
dfbewsdfbdfb77 4 years ago
Obviously your life has been so comfortable you haven't thought to develop opinions of your own, but this is one of the privileges of having joined the club,
dfbewsdfbdfb77 4 years ago
Due to the plastic flow property of ice it's normal for ice to flow and collapse into the sea, in fact the larger and higher the ice mass the more this takes place.
dfbewsdfbdfb77 4 years ago
If they had gone there looking for bananas they would have found a plantation,
dfbewsdfbdfb77 4 years ago
Bullies and thugs never back down ....get out of your own back yard.
richardyingren 4 years ago
Anyone who denies global warming and all the BIG problems that will bring (sea level, population shift etc) over the next coupla hundred years probably thinks George W has a brain.
richardyingren 4 years ago
At least George W. Doesn't back down. You speak like a true liberal. What have the Dems accomplished since they hosed the voters in the last election. Nothing. If you want to talk about someone, talk about Al Gore as he is the one who invented global warming just like he did the internet. Anyway, time to watch some footbal...
Reloadcat 4 years ago
Do you even have a brain?
gruvinwan 4 years ago
Global warming is not a small problem made up.. I can not believe some of you morons
gruvinwan 4 years ago
Al gore invented the internet? O.o I know I'm blonde...but...he is kidding right? He does know this isn't true?
Lexilla 4 years ago
That was sarcasm. I won't hold your comment against you since you were only 10 years old when Gore made an unsuccessful bid for president 8 years ago. He did at one point say he invented the Internet.
Reloadcat 4 years ago
Debunk the global warming myth-
"Any report that uses these arguments is suspect
"Most scientist agree" - but they never reference a study to prove that
"It is well known that" - all religious beliefs are well known, so what
The temperature data covers a period of less than 1,000 years
"Even if it can not be proved, we must ..." - this is the boogie man card"
Reloadcat 4 years ago 2
i wish it would melt a little faster. i live a little inland and would like ocean front property.
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fairy0fiona 4 years ago
Lying through your teeth
Radaration123 4 years ago
It's a nice idea... the traveling and learning about bigger issues... I just wish the videos were done better... and the interviews better thought out.
ersigh 4 years ago
yeah like they did GLOBAL WARMING, that is a well thought out lye. look at the idiots in the world who believe that nonsense. GLOBAL CONSPIRACY
joshgina 4 years ago
is that chick missing an arm. i can't figure it out. its stressing me out man!
schroedel18 4 years ago
People, why are you debating with these global warming skeptics? Don't you see that is exactly what they want? This is not a debatable topic, at least not to laypeople, but they have turned the discussion to make it sound like it IS debateable. Would you debate on whether or not someone has a particular kind of brain cancer? No, because you aren't doctors. So stop wasting your time with these losers.
pazure 4 years ago
and you're not a scientist
joshgina 4 years ago
...and you are? You don't speak like one, regardless of whatever degree you may hold.
cheshirematt23 4 years ago
A topic this vital,and you want to stifle debate? Spoken like a true Nazi.
thrummer1953 4 years ago
wow listen to larry in his gas powered boat. The town has a power plant larry will want that gone. And gas generators they got to go.
eds800 4 years ago
How can anyone believe that regardless of the extent of the effect, dumping CO2 into the atmosphere will not do anything?
planetidiot 4 years ago
Ur right the temp rises and fall, but the average temp is gradually rising. Since gthe beginning of the industrial rev the temp has spiked big time and will continue to rise. Learn the basic science of global warming and you will see why its is a runaway effect.
daz18nz 4 years ago
Global warming is not man-made. Sorry folks.
Do your own research. Temps go up and down.
5 years from now it could be an ice age coming! That's what "experts" shouted in the mid-seventies. Fear=Control. Think about it.
Doggchop 4 years ago
Seeing is believing unless you are a denialist who believes these pictures are actually being filmed on the back lot of a hollywood movie studio.
ffkling 4 years ago
WTF what can you "see" there? Are you talking about ice calving? Actually, it's natural. Do your homework pls.
v4mpir33d 4 years ago
wow..i feel stupid lol all these ppl using big words...C-O-N-F-U-S-I-N-G!!! lol
Cece248 4 years ago
Well the way I look at it is,does anybody really know why this is happening?Me myself,Im falling towards what Megatronwatcha Is describing in his comment.Good luck on your findings....
rtsedtal 4 years ago
I hope your icecream cake didn't melt either. I believe in global warming, humans putting permanent poisons into natural materials ect. But you see my friends. All the other planets in our galaxy are warming up to. The Sun fluctuates in heat. Just like an oil heater with a resister. Ask your mates at NASA
Megatronwatcha 4 years ago
You can't go to Greenland and "witness" global warming. There's no context by which to judge what's going on. NWF is just hoodwinking people. Fact is, a warming similar to the last decade, though more rapid, occurred in the 1920s and was likely accompanied by the same glacier acceleration. All before man could have contributed. In other words, recent events in Greenland fall within natural variation.
paulg22 4 years ago
I can't help but think this is a boondoggle because nothing is really said that can't be said in America. Show us! Show us a time lapse video with stakes positioned to prove ice is moving at 2 ft/day. Show us the dying polar bears because of global warming. Don't just talk about the beauty in 3-5 minute installments. People need to see your work not your working "vacation". This is why I don't donate to some of these non-profits..
hornettb 4 years ago
Looking at retired, well-off americans visiting Greenland in the summertime, when icebergs are melting...
Wow, this is serious stuff
tekstmester 4 years ago
In reality glaciers 'do' melt when its not winter, and during snowfall it builds up again on top for a long period of time. Its the give and take that is failing, these videos over dramatise it. It is still a serious issue, but the video is in a tad warmer time of year.
TroyJone 4 years ago
why is it that the most ignorant people resort to name calling? We need action not words, common goals not selfishness
lives2ride 4 years ago 3
If they had gone in the middle of the winter, they might have spoken differently.
Look at us, we are some rich, concerned americans traveling around the world looking for a cause. We are so important.
bhamsailor 4 years ago 2
Sit around and talk, talk talk talk. They wont be able to fix it, the earth is tired of us, the earth has run it's course, time for everyone to party like it's 1999!! then maybe they're won't be as many people wanting to argue, just for the sake of argument.Society has become a bunch of complainers. No probs cus there's always some dubass who gives a fuck.
MindFury 4 years ago
this codename36 guy is a real peice of work, clearly you know nothing about oil, war, or politics..so dont try and make some half assed argument about current evens because your wasting both of our time. thanks you ignorant nerd
RustyShacklefuurd 4 years ago
Pathetic bunch of eco-tourists. "We had a great lunch but now we're back to hear about the problems." A village of 45 people have a desalinzation plant? because the glacier receded??
No doubt the refugees in Darfur as well as their tormentors wish they had such access to water.
Can we say that the allocation of resouces is so absurd as to ... make us think of Europeans?
CWelsh3261 4 years ago
i personally do not want to see people talking too much about global warming and all when they should ACT NOW AND DO SOMETHING RATHER THAN SHOW YOUR FACE on cam. You guys just want to be watched and exposed. damn! self fulfillment and not concern u are after all.
marienicoles 4 years ago
Man codename you really are a fucking idiot. You just proved it yourself. Listen man, global warming is real...whether we have a greater impact on it or not...its a real thing...its a natural thing and we may be speeding it up. Either way it'll happen eventually so maybe we can slow it down a bit by not being a bunch of fucking idiots that could care less about what God has given us.
clehneis 4 years ago
Democrats use "Global Warming" to sidetrack people from the real issues like the fucking war and the terrorists who wanna kill us. But let me guess, you probably think terrorists are a myth right? You probably think the government is behind 9/11 huh? You fucking dumasses can't think for yourselfs!
codename36 4 years ago
ahhhhhhhh "cant think for yourselfs" listen to what your saying you ass, the terror threat is the thing sidetracking everyone because it is so blown out of proportion, while your whitehouse has shit all over your constitution....but hey from looking at your profile is looks like you got better things like xbox 360 and halo to tihnk about..if you did any real thinking you'd know exactly what the war in the middle east is really about
RustyShacklefuurd 4 years ago
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I bet you know what the war is really about you retard, you probably think it's about oil huh? FuCkInG retarttrtasda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
codename36 4 years ago
are you seriously gonna try to argue that it isnt about the oil...seriously?
RustyShacklefuurd 4 years ago
I agree!
CommentModerator 4 years ago 2
if the earth is actually okay. if everything we are shown is a lie. why was climate change picked as the lie? why not global shrinking? that would work. the media could carry on their fearmongering... "as the world continues to shrink your property will be reduced in size! and will be worth less, and then the markets will collapse and then..." i think the truth is between the extremes. something is clearly changing. but no one can get the whole picture with much accuracy.
nhatik 4 years ago
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maybe, if these hippys would stop smokin ur ganja, there wouldn't be so much co2.
Psychobob6 4 years ago
I'm so glad these fat cats had such a lovely lunch in Greenland, flown in like their lardy bodies to save the planet.
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killbillandwill 4 years ago
my god people if you are going to post something of ''great importance'' can u make it significant enough so it warrants me watching it. its like a wanky video diary. that really does f-all for the cause. giv us stats. donot misuse this outlet
MnstaFats2 4 years ago
Well it's not about blaming. There ain't much time left to do that anyway. All of us gotta start to act RIGHT NOW or we're doomed. But I don't wanna turn the computer off though lol oh well ima start by turning the light off :/ which I actually did now.
Andoo12 4 years ago
WHy the Hell are they always trying to BLAME the AMERICANS what about the chines and japanes!? they are some of the WORSE POLUTERS IN THE WOLD! and they SKATE BY WHY EVERYONE ELSE IS BLAMEING THE U.S.!Why do u think the have OXYGEN BARS IN CHINA AND JAPAN! com'on ppl are you guys really the nieve!? yes we may contribute to it but they have a fair share in this to so STOP BLAMING THE U.S. AND LOOK AROUND OUTSIDE THE BUBBLE AT OTHER COUNTRYS!
igothatwork 4 years ago
well ur nation refused to sign the kyoto protocol!
rbkku 4 years ago
watch some news or the discovery channel instead of humping your damn pickup truck. You might learn something. Do some research too, if your brain can handle it.
unknownman565 4 years ago 2
I guess my concern is the people featured in this video are all rich white retired academia who have their nest egg all set in place, while the burden of reducing Global Warming will as usual, fall on the backs of the working poor and middle class. I don't see the financially secure giving up their carefree lifestyles and their Volvo's and Subaru's anytime soon.
kurt84fstom2 4 years ago 5
well said
getmewild 4 years ago
There's no apostrophe in Volvos.
Or Subarus.
markrskinner 4 years ago
I slept thru my college English Composition classes, what can I say? (grin) ps: I drive a Toyota hybrid ;) (smug grin)
kurt84fstom2 4 years ago
Zzzzz....
GenesisDiver 4 years ago
Why is it unfortunate that people are leaving villages like this? That sounds like progress to me. Why do these Americans want people outside of the United States to continue living rural lifestyles?
elpinguinodijo2 4 years ago
global warming is natural and is not caused by man check out "the great global warming swindle" and get all the facts predictweather dot com has great info too, total co2 is only 0.54% of the atmosphere, and only 0.2% of that in total is from us, co2 increases after the earth heats up, greenland expands and melts all the time
nzoomed 4 years ago
Who's peeing i the background between 1:40-1:50?
hoppy1978 4 years ago
its a me !!!!111
FIRE321321321 4 years ago
I'm really concerned about global warming on Mars, but there's a problem . . .
Who do we tax?
I mean, I can come up with the propaganda to scare them . . . just tell me who we're targeting and I'll get right on it.
awksedgreep 4 years ago 3
Well we tax Americans of course. according to algore and all his loons we're the cause of all the worlds problems. It's lonely at the top. Even our own countrymen are mad at us for being the best.
krishnalite 4 years ago 2
Global Warming happens naturally for sure, however, with all the forgin toxins we Humans put into the environment it's a little irresponsible to say we dont play a part in the whole thing... but wait.. Americans NEVER accept responsibility for their actions
NWTONT 4 years ago
The arguments I am reading below (that deny climate change) are invariably fallacious. Ad Hominem, 'Straw-manning', reason by analogy...you name it, those from the Red States know of no other way to argue (even though it's completely wrong). Learn to argue properly, then the rest of the world will listen to you and stop thinking you're a bunch of unintelligent, dirt-grubbing hicks.
lightsculler 4 years ago 6
Haha, my dad is a denier without any logical reason, he just disbelieves! he is also a republican, big surprise...
bfayer 4 years ago
here jesus, jesus. here boy
slickmon 4 years ago
I feel like catching myself a n00b.
Let's see how many respond. Time to use the old n00b caller! (It also seems to work on liberals...) -
"Global warming is not, repeat, NOT humanity's fault. It is a natural climate cycle and we are simply warming up, probably from the last ice age."
*cracks knuckles* Now we wait. N00bs come a-runnin' when they hear stuff like that.
BlindDogFulton 4 years ago
I Don't get the 1970's argument from Angry Brown Oil Giants and Bush Apologists. It's not groovy when dudes are attempting to shag science.
bflatkitty 4 years ago
There used to be a glaciers that ran across New Hampshire a half a million years ago and cut notches through the White Mountains. does that mean that Global Warming began back then?
sshaunessy 4 years ago
Amen to that Guitar, these videos are entirely void of substance. Just these snobs talking about their fucking trip and visiting towns.
hadmebefore 4 years ago
You know, I really did watch this with an open mind. I wanted to see if the natual occurance of any warming ( warming is also happening on Mars - it's solar cycles at work and has been for eons ) had any effect on the coastal areas. Zero, zip, nada - no info given. If there is evidence of advancing coast lines whay wouldn't they show it? Are they just inept? It's apparently just not there.
GuitarBob6 4 years ago
What a crock of crap! They traveled half way accross the world and went to lunch? They learned nothing at all! If they did learn anything they sure as heck didn't share it in that video. Another bunch of wealthy snobs trying to inflate their egos.
GuitarBob6 4 years ago
Hey, Mr. "open mind"--What makes you think these people are rich and, to make them even worse, snobs? I always suspect the opinion of those who make assumptions about people they know nothing about because that is symptomatic of the "closed mind".....BTW, I'm not rich.
Iphylm2 4 years ago
Most of us have to work for a living and cannot go to Greenland for lunch. Global warming is the cause du jour for the idle rich.
GuitarBob6 4 years ago
GuitarBob6--Would you describe oil company executives who get bonuses of millions ( as of today, a barrel of oil has hit the $85 mark--insuring more bonuses) as belonging to thr "idle rich". Or are they the hard working rich? This whole question of global warming should be debated without pointing angry fingers at rich, poor, liberal,right-wing, etc. Don't you agree?
Iphylm2 4 years ago
Amen and btw could anyone tell me the gas milage that boat gets
slowhandchad 4 years ago
Greenland is hardly halfway across the world.
TheIceMaiden 4 years ago
Scientists worldwide supports the existence of man-made global climate change, period. And this is the consensus of real scientists across the worlds, not a handful of misinformed and/or politically motivated posters on Youtube. But please, don't take my word for it; google the IPCC and read the reports.
raist2 4 years ago
Don't confuse man-made climate change with man-made GLOBAL climate change. Specific instances of climate change due to pollution is not sufficient evidence that human interaction with nature can change the entirety of global climate. It's implausible to believe that scientists can run experiments on the human effect on global climate due to the immense number of variables existent in the causes of climate.
FramerateMadness 4 years ago
Go read about the "Global Freezing" disaster of 1975. That's right, scientists in the 70's believed there was a second ice age approaching... You can't just change from ice age to global warming in 3o years guys. Look at the solar activity trends. When the sun gets hotter, the earth gets hotter. We aren't gonna change anything about the earths temperature.
FramerateMadness 4 years ago 2
Global warming in Greenland my arse. Planes crashed in Greenland 60 years ago and have recently been dug up. Have a guess how deep they had to dig considering global warming etc. They where on top of rocks? 5 feet? NO 260 FEET!! thats right in the last 60 years 260 feet of ice was deposited on top of those planes. Explain that MR Global warming. Google- ww2 planes found in greenland under ice
lmlmlmjm 4 years ago
Most of the people who put negative comments on this page either work for big gas and oil firms, are shareholders in these types of firms, don't love their kids, or don't have any, or are the type of person that if given the chose between saving a persons life or making loads of money would take the money. If everyone just did a little bit to stop global warming we could slow it down and stop it all together. I can hear their voices 20 years from now "O'no where's all this water coming from"
Smile77Smile 4 years ago
Over the last 100 years the media has warned about global cooling, then global warming, then global cooling again and now it's back to global warming. They know there is a limited amount of time before the evidence turns against their beliefs. This video shows how much money is to be made from global warming. Ecco tourism is hot. There is no conspiracy to knock global warming for the oil companies. Dr. Gray will be shown to be correct. Just be patient.
GuitarBob6 4 years ago
Wrong, I have 2 yound children and do not hold stock in any oil companies. I am just smart enought to realize that all of this Global warming histeria is a left wing anti-capitalist crock of crap. We need to protect our environment, no question. However, this is nothing more than a political agenda.
sshaunessy 4 years ago
You make me sick, septic, because you are the polluter, you are the cause. You would make the whole world a desert if you needed to, to keep your humvees on the freeway.
23091949 4 years ago
we have already heard about this kind of things so many times. Now they should be telling us why we haven't still not changed at all.
sharalra0728 4 years ago
*gasp* Maybe because it's just bound to happen and humanity will just shudder in fear as it happens.
What? Were you expecting to live forever? Your watching the wrong video if you were.
Sonicbomb77 4 years ago 2
We need to also think about polar cities for the future, year 2500 or so. Google the term or Wikipedia it or look for my blog of same name: polar cities. We need them.
songsterhiragana 4 years ago