NS 20V (10-26-08) CROSSING SIGNAL MALFUNCTION!

[RailWolf7306]

The gate got impatient.

[HotChocolate200]

Lol

[mommabeardee]

this video needs delete all the malfunciton are just now comming town what street is this train on

[chrisc95367]

hahahahaha you did not fool anyone

[iceman977th]

LMFAO @ 0:04 -- SHUT UP!

[ekoslosky]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! You're a very naughty crossing. LOL!!!!!

[CQDX018]

Call it in, E bomb! LOL!

[LorenPGMR]

My parents still have a bit of old history from this location. I'm not sure if this video poster knows it or not....but this exact location was the site of a derailment in the mid to late 60's. My parents still have an old silent 8mm movie of the wreck. I grew up in Dearborn and know this location very well.

[nssd70m2]

A derailment ,wow! Is there anyway you could put the movie on the internet? That would be interesting to see. Ive always wondered what this area looked like when Penn Central and Conrail owned the tracks.

[LorenPGMR]

Next time I'm home I'll see if she can dig through all the old movies. As for what that location looked like years ago. If you stand on the Mason St crossing and look to the west....all those condos on the left side of the tracks and on the right were not there. The right side all the way down to the Post Office was a huge parking lot . Looking west there was a siding right where the condos currently are. There also were 2 tracks along that route...they've since cut it down to one I see.

[LorenPGMR]

That siding just to the west of Mason St. I'm talking about was on the left side...south side of the tracks. There also wasn't an Amtrak station in Dearborn down by the Library until about 79 or 80 I think...back in the 70's you had to travel all the way downtown to the old abandoned station in Detroit. If I remember right...there were two tracks all the way into Detroit and at least as far west as the Willow Run yard...might have even gone further...

[LorenPGMR]

I remember anywhere along that route between Mason St west to the bridge at Outer Dr. was a perfect location to watch trains. There use to be a signal tower about a mile west of the Outer Dr. bridge...and at night if you didn't know the times of the trains...all ya had to do is sit along the tracks looking west until you saw the green signal...you then knew a train was coming either way within about 5 to 10 minutes.

[bnsf4]

crap those bells are friggin loud! dude it scared the crap outta me!

[27131014198743]

CP Rail is canadian pacific which is in canada.

[1fiddy3]

huh the gates keep going down then up its quite funny to watch since ive never seen a malfuction like that

[mapleleafsforever]

As a public safety message here. Always report malfunctioning railway signals to the rail operator, the local police and federal rail adminstration.

[nssd70m2]

Did u read the description? :)

[Neonspinnazz30]

This can happen sometimes when a rusty or corroded wheel misses the sensor (chip in wheel or other damage)

And the sensors automatically think that the train is gone just until a good wheel hits the sensors.

Once I was driving toward the Metra station and

a Metra SW1200 passed a grossing gate, the loco did fine but the old MOW cars fooled the sensor.

An hour later, a Metra F40C rolls in on my way back home and the gates are good.

[DH082008]

Number 1, your wrong about all of that. Crossing signals work off of nothing but 2 things.. one is insulated track joints. and number 2, is the grounding between both rails ( Negative plus Positive connection activates the lights / signals, and since the whole train is metal and connecting both rails together, the outcome is signal activation.

[Neonspinnazz30]

I was beginning to fall asleep until that freakin' horn went off!

[trainOholic]

ops

[Master784]

LOL when you said shut up at the beginning

[nssd70m2]

yea ,lol

[JAWS8000]

that was funny...lol...

[Porow501]

awesome video

[bwitz72]

Did you contact the RR company to let them know about the crossing?

Also I wish there was a cop on the other side of that crossing for those idiots that walked across while the lights were on

[nssd70m2]

The funny thing is that there was a cop sitting at the crossing when the malfunction happened ,and yes I had a chat with NS on the phone.

[DgenerationX12345]

What kind Bell is that?

[nssd70m2]

Western cullen hayes.

[flexspinner]

lol nice ! in strathroy we had a malfunction on two of em on the same day the lights went but the arms stayed up good job !

[llokuta]

Was this filmed during the winter? Road salt has been known to cause havoc with crossing circuits.

[legsbluetrain]

Check out what I caught today in my video response.

[CALTRAIN4000]

THAT CRAZY....WHENT UO WHENT DOWN...lol...

[pennsyr1]

It's the Tomahawk Chop.

[NSwannabeEngineer]

Loving that K5LA horn!!!!!!!!

[crapper1]

thats better than my malfunction

[justmecoop]

What the Deuce!

[CSXTransportation]

Its normally due to rusty wheels and/or rails. The rust wheels dont cut the circuit and the arms start going up, then when a good wheel runs over it they go back down.

[robertgift]

Oxidition is rubbed and crushed off quickly once a wheel begins rolling.

Crossing circuits are hundreds to thousands of feet long.

Even a rail car of totally insulated wheels would make absolutely no difference among all the other conducting wheels.

Something else is wrong here.

[Trainmanalex]

If the signals did not malfunction would you have named this ns 20v stupid people walk across tracks

[nssd70m2]

I don't know.

[EJE665]

YIKES! I've seen crossing do that here in Plainfield when the train is approaching, but never while the train is going through! Yes, those people are idiots considering the train took only about a minute to get through.

[BRIANamtrak]

haha, "shutup"

[nssd70m2]

LOL!

[BRIANamtrak]

Im assuming that was you saying it to a friend, cuz when its train time friends dont matter, its all about the train/video right? haha

[POON3345]

Nice shot. When and what time of the night did you record the video?

[nssd70m2]

It was in late october a little after 8 pm.

[TheRailroadwolf]

This happens alot. Sometime its a grain silo nere the tracks that can't clean up its mess. gran gathers on the wheels of the train and as it rolls threw puddle it softens and insulates. Note that the crossing only does it as the wheels pass over what would be the gap that an elctirical current passes threw

[robertgift]

Nice Catch!

Was it just that ONE gate?

Or did the system read no train and both were clearing.

I thought all of those wheels would prevent any form of insulating material from producing such an effect.

Scary.

Two runaway box cars did NOT activate grade crossing signals and killed a woman in her husband's car.

[marshmallower]

Looks like the signal is dancing. lol

[marshmallower]

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[NsRailfan083]

I like how you said "idiots.. lol. Just like BRIANamtrak did once! Also the gate thats fking messed up crap.

[BNSFman08]

nice catch, we have a better chance of snow in Poenix arizona( where i live) than have that sort of malfunction in my area lol

[silicon212]

Actually that very sort of malfunction led to a train/car collision in Mesa, AZ on the Southern Pacific in June of '95, at the Dobson Road grade crossing. I saw it. GP40-2 7132 vs. blue 1974 Impala. Front of car ripped off, yet the engine was remarkably intact, and no glass save for the headlights was broken. Driver walked away.

[silicon212]

By 'engine' I mean the engine in the car, small block 350. The alternator was snapped off and the air cleaner was bent, but the rest of the engine was in good shape. The locomotive suffered a blue mark on its snow plow. ;)

[aaron13133]

holy crap eh? now thats messed up, if i were to rename this vid, it would be "train signals on crack" lol very rar catch major cred dude. :)

[railfanner91019]

thats like what the one down here was doing, it went down then back up then back down all with a train coming.

[norfolkdash9]

maybe that crossings new on the job lol

[nssd70m2]

lol

[FECRWY]

I Guess "The Pill" Wore Off =)

LOL!!!

[BellyLover06]

Lol, it's almost as though that gate arm is waving to the train. That's very odd, I've never seen that before.

[Bellwestern80]

The crossing you were facing at the beggining had the arm incorrectly placed. Should be \\\\\ towards flasher mast, not /////.

[CP359]

Eric,

Wow, that's a first. I have never seen that type of malfunction before. Good thing you called it in.. thanks for doing that! Most people wouldn't bother.

Dave

[nssd70m2]

No problem! Thanks!

[Hickler90]

No problem, I do it sometimes myself.

[Hickler90]

Theres no way this train can be 20E, 20E runs through here on the Harrisburg Line from Chicago, IL to Morrisville, PA. Its an intermodal train.

[trainboi21]

boy, that bells loud once the crossing starts going off.

I like the part when those people go by and the person fliming this says "idiots" lol

that makes me laugh.

[fastlane250]

yeah, LOL!

[BellyLover06]

Yeah, those bells are quite annoying and they seem to not be in sync with each other, or are they wired separately?

[theup3985]

The bells are wired directly to the gate mechanism, which means they ding nonstop until the gates begin to rise. Had they wired them to the X Relay instead, they would only ding while the gates are lowering - which how NS does must of their crossings. The bell pattern here is unusual for NS; their gated crossings don't usually keep the bells dinging after the gates have lowered.

[jsncrso]

some state laws require the bells to sounds continuously when the lights are flashing

[Pappster85]

Looks like a premature loss of shunt. Call the maintainer!

[trainboi21]

did they ever get that fixed?

they must of.

someone plz tell me lol

[nssd70m2]

I called NS later that night and the guy said that he would send somebody to take a look at it. I don't know if they fixed it or not but they probably did.

[eddieg749]

ive seen that happen before on a bnsf line

[nssd70m2]

You sure said it!

[trainboi21]

LOL wow, ive never seen a crossing go up like that while the train is still passing by. wow..thats creppy.

[nssd70m2]

Yep. NS owns the line through dearborn ,amtrak has trackage rights over it to.

[osubucksrule15]

are norfolk southerns common there

[nssd70m2]

They fixed them.

[thetrainman407]

thats good to know, you dont want that happening again.

[thetrainman407]

NOT GOOD! never ever ever ever seen that! hope they get it fixed!

[brickbuilder711]

Cool!

[TrainmanKight]

looks like bad relays it doesnt matter how old the signals are it matters how the rr has it work up in mo union pacific uses lots of old stuff and nothing has ever happened

does it only happen when it is near the end train the relays could be set up wrong

cool video

[nssd70m2]

Yep!

[Linkdude678]

Those gates are pretty old. Especially the bell too.

[scooterride33]

that was funny

[nssd70m2]

It was the first time iv'e ever seen that happen.

[Andrewsaxamophone]

that was pretty sweet! How often does that happen?

[nssd70m2]

They are pretty old signals.

[055292312]

Thats kinda weird.

[nssd70m2]

I did! I heard amtrak 354 actually stop at the crossing on my radio saying that the gates were going up and down!

[Hickler90]

oh Man, time for NS to fix those, theyre worse than the gates in my town! You should report it in to the number on the gate

[nssd70m2]

The funny thing was that there was a dearborn cop at the crossing and he didn't even notice it!

[BigBoyCarlos]

that not good