Can't the Greeks and the Turks get along? It's stupid. They are just buying the same aircraft from the same nations *cough* the USA and they both have the same fighter jets... Same F-16s.... Man. It must be good to be Lockheed Martin right now.
ur right its not bout number cuz greeks the 300's stood against a million and slaughtered them its about intellligence -sth that trukey doesnt have- plus history may repeat
One greek here said that Turkey has got more fighter jets than we have but İt is not the numbers, we actually trust our pilots' talent! I dont think greek jets have more quality! İt will be a teribble waste if they will have to fight!! I hope peace remains! Besides Turkish forces are active, what i mean is they are fighting against PKK terorists in east! Sometimes by soldiers on the ground sometimes by Jets and helicopters!!!
both countries have aircrafts which is produced by other countries such as USA and France... both countries can not produce their own and national weapons...
In Turkish we have an expression; " El sikiyle gerdeğe girmek"...
it means some like this: " Fuck the bride with penis of someone else..."
hey my friends i am from greece ! in my opinion both countries have very good and very strong air forces !the turkish ai force has much more air fighters (366) but the greek air force has better air fighters (313) the turks belive in numbers we belive on quality of our air force
@MrFokos we actually trust our pilots' talent, İt is not the numbers. I dont think greek jets have more quality! İt will be a teribble waste if they will have to fight!! I hope peace remains!!!
@picarnavut talent...hahahahahaha let me laugh GREECE my friend has the 3rd most talended fighter pilots in the world after the israel and UK ! then don't tell me about talent you have not talent
lol... let the kids feel good when watching those videos. Turkey has the army that among the top 10 armies in the world, where is greece? top 40? top 30? low asses. if ever a war happens, Turkey EAT you and bring you under their slavery again. LOL THE END.
These forces are both NATO allies. I don't believe there will be a war or any war permitted by NATO supreme Command HQ. But if happens (God forbid) I believe Hellenes will first have to deal with thousands of ground to ground guided missiles, middle and long range.. produced by Turkey in Massive numbers in recent years. Air attacks, dog fights will be second stage of that war and answer to superiority of which side will be determined by the result of missiles hitting accuracy.
we will never have a war again, and never use these planes against each other. But maybe we need them for the security and stability of the region...war times past way, but we have to solve the cyprus problem in a nice way and share the life together, at the end of the day we have been living together for so many years, and sharing a lot...
i have to say something i am Hellenic not Greek Greek i was at 1425-1825 where my country was under turkish slavery now i am a free man and not a slave(greek=γρεκος=slave) thats for the history guys..i was at the borders doing my national service.. i will not be a sheep and fight for the politicians never screw the army Industries .. and let us live a peacefull life screw the golden dawn and the grey wolfes Viva la Liberta!!!!!
I am Turkish first of all, i like the fact your not one of those people (Greek or Turk) who lie about the otherside airforce E.G: 50 year old planes 30 year old cobras.
I like what you did and you went compltey the truth except for 1 thing-why was there and an American refueling plane on the Greek air force, in my knowledge Greece does not have a air refuil plane.
The rest of the video was great becasue you have been honest.
After this video and all these airplanes I strongly believe that Airplane Industries are the winners and Greeks and Turkish people are the losers. Thanks
haha... thats totally true. I' m paying the taxes for the military expanses, and the soldiers are playing around with their billion dollar toys. More over , people are expecting me to be proud to have such an army in scale and cost. That' s a way of saying, pay your taxes, don't question where the taxes are going, and be proud of being a nitwit...
but where is the turkish f35 and mirage 2000 ..... u didn't put all turkish fighters anyway turkish are the best air force in the region (i'm moroccan and not turkish)
HELLENIC AIR FORCE will evntually Obletarate the cowards sorry -ass fegs mongols ,minions of nefelim,monsters;turks!Because you 'll fight also,against the HOLLY MOTHER ofJESUS that Protects COnstantly GREEKS-HELLINS!!!!!
There are 300 Turkish F-16's in northern cyprus alone. Turkey is also considered a regional super power that considers all its neighbours (not including Iran & Russia) a non threat to her security.
It was in early 80s' when a high rank turkish officer in NATO Command of Naples was telling the same version of your story to other NATO officers. A HAF F5 pilot named THOMAS SKAMPARDONIS replied him with a question: "Do I look like a vampire?"
At first, it is nice to see videos like these. It is also nice that there are not many - i know everything- viewers. I think both sides, viewers know shit(sry)If we listen to propaganda, we are wrong all the way.
About who is better than who. I believe HAF and TuAF, both have good pilots. Who of us knows what is going on, in the air?
It is not sure that it is going to be, EF2000. Rafale or Super Hornet, have more odds.
Either of them is way much better than F35. Because the F35 is not made for air to air. The only chance to overcomes is "shoot first, kill first"
in BVR mode. And this will be impossible, because its radar signature, will be detected easily by air and ground radars, in different transmission angles.
Way better than f-35 in a see-first-shoot-firs scenariot? Are you sure about that? For one thing they will have the same missiles (Rafale mica is shorter range than amraam). In the future they will all have the meteor aam. Lowest radar signature wins.
F-35 may look and said that, its a stealth fighter but to achieve the low radar signature, over Aegean( modern air and ground radars) would be impossible. But all of these talking is scenariology. The truth is that Turkey will never attack Greece, without the help of USA.
USA helped during 1974, in Cyprus( not a NATO ally).
Very Good. The Bad Comments Are Most Likely From Turkish People.I must say i dont like them very much. But the video its very good.I like to Russian Jets so much that i wish i was a pilot. H.A.F. FOR EVER
Don't call me idiot , idiot ! It's NATO statistics and about istraeli pilots , greek jets shooting turk jets with israeli pilots by the past . It show how much y're brainwashed by Norum's faked videos and propaganda .
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τους εχουν ξεσχισει τους κουραδομανγκες
otolmonika1 1 year ago
Can't the Greeks and the Turks get along? It's stupid. They are just buying the same aircraft from the same nations *cough* the USA and they both have the same fighter jets... Same F-16s.... Man. It must be good to be Lockheed Martin right now.
undertake782 1 year ago
FEUER frei DU HAST RAMMSTEIIIIIIIIIIN
pazariotis1 1 year ago
turkey after som time take jf 17
kallashallas 1 year ago
ur right its not bout number cuz greeks the 300's stood against a million and slaughtered them its about intellligence -sth that trukey doesnt have- plus history may repeat
marwano1223 1 year ago
One greek here said that Turkey has got more fighter jets than we have but İt is not the numbers, we actually trust our pilots' talent! I dont think greek jets have more quality! İt will be a teribble waste if they will have to fight!! I hope peace remains! Besides Turkish forces are active, what i mean is they are fighting against PKK terorists in east! Sometimes by soldiers on the ground sometimes by Jets and helicopters!!!
picarnavut 1 year ago
We should have develop technology to produce own aircrafts,to fuck the bride with own penis, then with some one else.
shamidfdg 1 year ago
both countries have aircrafts which is produced by other countries such as USA and France... both countries can not produce their own and national weapons...
In Turkish we have an expression; " El sikiyle gerdeğe girmek"...
it means some like this: " Fuck the bride with penis of someone else..."
californiaholywood 1 year ago
@californiaholywood Well said but then what to do with own penis?
shamidfdg 1 year ago
@shamidfdg I'm writing as a Turkish guy, Greece and Turkey, both of these countries don't have their own penises... Sad but true...
californiaholywood 1 year ago
turkeyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chopperzone93 1 year ago
e5t
MrFokos 1 year ago
hey my friends i am from greece ! in my opinion both countries have very good and very strong air forces !the turkish ai force has much more air fighters (366) but the greek air force has better air fighters (313) the turks belive in numbers we belive on quality of our air force
MrFokos 1 year ago
@MrFokos we actually trust our pilots' talent, İt is not the numbers. I dont think greek jets have more quality! İt will be a teribble waste if they will have to fight!! I hope peace remains!!!
picarnavut 1 year ago
@picarnavut talent...hahahahahaha let me laugh GREECE my friend has the 3rd most talended fighter pilots in the world after the israel and UK ! then don't tell me about talent you have not talent
MrFokos 1 year ago
@MrFokos Ισραήλ εντάξει αλλά η Βρετανία που κολλάει?
gtamodman122 8 months ago
@gtamodman122 i R.A.F. pou einai i vretaniki aeroporia einai poli kali entaksi mporei na min einai san emas alla mes to top 3 einai
MrFokos 8 months ago
@gtamodman122 i R.A.F. που ειναι η βρετανικη ειναι πολυ καλλη μπωρει να μην ειναι σαν εμασ αλλα ειναι αρκετα καλη
MrFokos 8 months ago
lol... let the kids feel good when watching those videos. Turkey has the army that among the top 10 armies in the world, where is greece? top 40? top 30? low asses. if ever a war happens, Turkey EAT you and bring you under their slavery again. LOL THE END.
DontCoerceTheLimit 1 year ago
These forces are both NATO allies. I don't believe there will be a war or any war permitted by NATO supreme Command HQ. But if happens (God forbid) I believe Hellenes will first have to deal with thousands of ground to ground guided missiles, middle and long range.. produced by Turkey in Massive numbers in recent years. Air attacks, dog fights will be second stage of that war and answer to superiority of which side will be determined by the result of missiles hitting accuracy.
deeptuber109 1 year ago
bouaxaxaxaax I read in a TUAF video ...''PROUD TO BE TURK'' ...axaxaxaxaxaxax Its PROUD TO BE GREEK YOU IDIOT!
IkarosHAF 1 year ago
poor mongols...you think you are better than our air force?...you are so young to speak for us....
greek air force 4 ever!!!
panagiotisCFU 2 years ago
Rafale F-4 ? R* F-4 doesnt exist yet
and F3 is the first version of full Rafale
F-1 and F-2 werent complete
F1 ( able to do few tasks like reco and others abilities are @ 50 % )
F2 ( full bomber abilities and others thing )
F3 ( full air superiority abilities + some others thing, laser pod, AESA ect... ) complete version, The omnirôle fighter
F3 is the Rafale 1 ( full and complete developed )
F4 could be a Rafale 1.5 or something
XavierB0126 2 years ago
we will never have a war again, and never use these planes against each other. But maybe we need them for the security and stability of the region...war times past way, but we have to solve the cyprus problem in a nice way and share the life together, at the end of the day we have been living together for so many years, and sharing a lot...
ihsanyesil1 2 years ago
Giorgos24 2 years ago
1st music?
xxrangehero7xx 2 years ago
I am Turkish first of all, i like the fact your not one of those people (Greek or Turk) who lie about the otherside airforce E.G: 50 year old planes 30 year old cobras.
I like what you did and you went compltey the truth except for 1 thing-why was there and an American refueling plane on the Greek air force, in my knowledge Greece does not have a air refuil plane.
The rest of the video was great becasue you have been honest.
5/5 if i can 100/100
nice vid
xxrangehero7xx 2 years ago
We haven't mirage F-1 and f-5
grhaf100 2 years ago 2
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grhaf100 2 years ago
After this video and all these airplanes I strongly believe that Airplane Industries are the winners and Greeks and Turkish people are the losers. Thanks
btriant123 2 years ago 12
haha... thats totally true. I' m paying the taxes for the military expanses, and the soldiers are playing around with their billion dollar toys. More over , people are expecting me to be proud to have such an army in scale and cost. That' s a way of saying, pay your taxes, don't question where the taxes are going, and be proud of being a nitwit...
I'm turkish bytheway... :)
goktugbodur 2 years ago
kardeşim elma ile fındık mukayese edilirmi yunanlılara ayıp olmasın:)
esterabim79 2 years ago
Turkey wants peace guys. No matter which air force is the best.
But if; one day anyone wants to attack against us, must just try to read history again.We will do the same thing with pleasure.
Do not forget, real war is on the land.
Cheers :)
ahmet273 2 years ago
We don't
Cheers!!!!!!!
GeorgeTheCretan 2 years ago
but where is the turkish f35 and mirage 2000 ..... u didn't put all turkish fighters anyway turkish are the best air force in the region (i'm moroccan and not turkish)
o0bluesteel0o 2 years ago
HELLENIC AIR FORCE will evntually Obletarate the cowards sorry -ass fegs mongols ,minions of nefelim,monsters;turks!Because you 'll fight also,against the HOLLY MOTHER ofJESUS that Protects COnstantly GREEKS-HELLINS!!!!!
orfan9ma 2 years ago
TURKEY!!!! Turkey is strong
absolutely
emreyno1 2 years ago
There are 300 Turkish F-16's in northern cyprus alone. Turkey is also considered a regional super power that considers all its neighbours (not including Iran & Russia) a non threat to her security.
murattk22 2 years ago
It was in early 80s' when a high rank turkish officer in NATO Command of Naples was telling the same version of your story to other NATO officers. A HAF F5 pilot named THOMAS SKAMPARDONIS replied him with a question: "Do I look like a vampire?"
tourbox1 2 years ago
"Do I look like a zombie" were his actual words!
CoolJayShadow 2 years ago
Nice video, I appreciated it that you showed the both sides equally. Regards from Turkey.....
reqws 2 years ago
At first, it is nice to see videos like these. It is also nice that there are not many - i know everything- viewers. I think both sides, viewers know shit(sry)If we listen to propaganda, we are wrong all the way.
About who is better than who. I believe HAF and TuAF, both have good pilots. Who of us knows what is going on, in the air?
baxalo 3 years ago
Hellenic Air Force vs Turkish Air Force:
Future Air Combat:
(1)Greece Eurofighter Typhoon (future Operator) vs Turkey F-35A Lighting II (order)
Past Air Combat:
(2)Greece Mirage 2000 vs Turkey F-16C/D Fighting Falcon! Winner: Greece Mirage 2000!
USAAIRPOWER 3 years ago 2
It is not sure that it is going to be, EF2000. Rafale or Super Hornet, have more odds.
Either of them is way much better than F35. Because the F35 is not made for air to air. The only chance to overcomes is "shoot first, kill first"
in BVR mode. And this will be impossible, because its radar signature, will be detected easily by air and ground radars, in different transmission angles.
baxalo 3 years ago
Way better than f-35 in a see-first-shoot-firs scenariot? Are you sure about that? For one thing they will have the same missiles (Rafale mica is shorter range than amraam). In the future they will all have the meteor aam. Lowest radar signature wins.
gibbsrg 2 years ago
You did not read carefully, what I ve said.
Or, I didnt said that correctly.
F-35 may look and said that, its a stealth fighter but to achieve the low radar signature, over Aegean( modern air and ground radars) would be impossible. But all of these talking is scenariology. The truth is that Turkey will never attack Greece, without the help of USA.
USA helped during 1974, in Cyprus( not a NATO ally).
baxalo 2 years ago
Greece already choose his new fighter ?
i thought he should be choose soon beetween Eurofighter, Rafale and F35 ?
XavierB0126 2 years ago
Proof?
xxrangehero7xx 2 years ago
go turkiaaaaaaa brothers algerien!
vans25200 3 years ago
fuck of muslim bitch!
PETROforever 3 years ago
Very Good. The Bad Comments Are Most Likely From Turkish People.I must say i dont like them very much. But the video its very good.I like to Russian Jets so much that i wish i was a pilot. H.A.F. FOR EVER
xalkias2 3 years ago
97% of dogfights are for Greeks ! No need to know more ! (Even if sometime Israeli pilots use turkish jets ! LOL)
Mhayai1 3 years ago 3
where did you get this information idioıt...it shows your brain is washed.
oguzhansx1 3 years ago
Don't call me idiot , idiot ! It's NATO statistics and about istraeli pilots , greek jets shooting turk jets with israeli pilots by the past . It show how much y're brainwashed by Norum's faked videos and propaganda .
Mhayai1 3 years ago
dreaming....when did you shot our planes but we shot 2 of your F5s in 1974.
oguzhansx1 3 years ago 3
haf forever... haf is the best air force...
ΓΙΑΤΙ ΑΠΛΑ ΠΑΣ ΜΗ ΕΛΛΗΝ ΒΑΡΒΑΡΟΣ
Scorpios07gr 3 years ago 2