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  • of course is IRON MAN

  • is the singer on Paranoid here Tony Martin or Ian Gillain?

  • tony!!!!!! of course!!!!

  • of course page

  • of course its page

  • Tony Iommi is the RiffMaster!

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  • Im a gr8 of Fan of Tonny Iommi but I wud term Jimmy Page as The God nd Tonny as The King of guitar....

  • to answer the question correct, there should be a sampling of classic Sab and Zwp RIFFS, b/c that's what really makes these 2 the titans they are! for ex:

    Zep: Immigrant Song, whole lota love, the ocean, no quarter, communication breakdown, black dog, living loving maid, heartbreaker, kashmir, etc. etc

    Sab:into the void, symptom of the unierse, children of the grave, sweet leaf, sabbath bloody sabbath, iron man, electric funeral, tomorrow's dream, snowblind, etc, etc.

  • Jimmy Page!!

  • i love both.i like Tony's riffs better,but i like Jimmy's acoustic work alot more.although Planet Caravan is musical mastery.

  • Is all wrong!!!

    You can`t say "who is best guitarrist?"

    Who is the best musician? No doubt, Jimmy Page, listen Dazed & Confused, the second rift is quite similar to Paranoid`s (D&C-1969 / Paranoid-1971). The songs of Zep are full os soul and spirit, passion, the arrogance and attitude of Page make it feel so nice. Tommy is in the sahdow, ozzy´s and Dio´s shadow, never create a diferent song, not as Page.

  • @AnToZ1213 /watch?v=pTsvs-pAGDc

  • @Luxmaxnike you know that zepp changed all? os not copy! not the same lyrics not the same sound, not the same music. just the title

  • @AnToZ1213 not it isin't. Plant is singing on the same way, are you telling me that the Led Zeppelin version doesn't sound at all like this one? fine, but what about /watch?v=TvtabNAb_wE, the same riff of Moby Dick. does it make this guy better than jimmy?

  • @AnToZ1213  Page is best yes ofcourse but u cant say tonny as the shadow... juz check out his solos...

  • tony iommi 4 ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):):):)­:)

  • Page!!!!

  • the only way iommi would win this is if it was whos the better metal guitarist. jimmy page is one of the most versatile guitarists ever. iommi plays strictly electric metal. id like to see iommi attempt to write something as beautiful as bron-yr-aur

  • @spacecowboy5150 laguna sunrise

  • @spacecowboy5150 Fluff, Orchid, Laguna Sunrise, Supertzar. Led Zeppelin is my fave band although.

  • who's that singing? I thought it was Ian Gillan at first but, not sure, and sure as hell it isn't coverdale,

  • PAGEEEE

  • Although jimmy page is probably the one of the best guitarists in the world along with hendrix, I think that tony iommi created some of the best riffs ever. Quite frankly what im trying to say is stairway has nothing on paranoid. TONY IOMMI BEST GUITARIST EVER

  • jimmy page forever and alawys better stairway to heavin rocks

  • jimmy page forever and alawys better

  • tony fuckin iommi

  • I've heard a little to many Sabbath songs where the guitar sounds much too like earlier Zeppelin songs. Iommi was clearly influenced by Page - maybe a little to much.

  • @CentraCross this is absolutely false ahah, please listen better that music ...so.. u can hear clearly that album as black sabbath has same sound as page guitars..uhmmm ok eheh..only thing they have in common is same brand gibson, and not same model too ..please!!! greetings

  • @powerblast1 There is - but it's mainly in their later albums. The best example is "You won't change me" in which Iommi plays very similarily to "Since I've been loving you".

  • @powerblast1

    that other guy is so gay

  • @CentraCross

    ddddddddddddddddiiiiiiiiiiiiii­iiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee you fag

  • @MRraider1992 Oh my, that's a clever argument. I wish i had thought of that.

  • @CentraCross really iommi was not very influenced by page at all. the only really similarities between sabbath and zeppelin's first albums are in the song black sabbath and how many more times on the zeppelin album. incidentally the songs beck's bolero by jeff beck and child in time by deep purple also have a similar thing going on. that's just how it is sometimes with music.

  • for some reason jimmy page looks like ritchie blackmore in this video.

  • @mikexlong Blackmore w/o moustache - looks like Jimmy Page.

    Blackmore w/ moustcahe - looks (though not as much) like Tony Iommi.

  • Tony is playing Brighton Rock!

  • I think they're both great on their own right. Tony Iommi is the "MASTER" of the guitar riff, but Jimmy Page is a "MASTER" at putting a song together. Just look at Stairway To Heaven or Achilles Last Stand and then look at Tony with Iron Man and Paranoid.

  • Tony Iommi

  • metalheads go for iommi while rockers go for page. i like sabbath because its just balls out metal, not artsy or deep or anything. BLACK SABBATH WILL KICK YOUR ASS DEATH TO ALL BUT METAL

  • @CADILLACTATE Sabbath were not Arty or Deep? Yeah they bloody well were, but it was within the boundaries of Heavy Metal. Just like Zeppelin were as diverse you could be within Heavy Rock (not Hard Rock, they went above that).

  • OMG ITS NOT FAIR!!!!!!! HOW DARE YOU!!!

  • iommi rules

  • Iommi is the best! 

  • Iommi is the best! He's the Grandfather of heavy metal!

  • JIMMY PAGE WINS

  • @StryderKross I can understand why you'd say that and I know what you mean.

  • @StryderKross Iommi did branch out in different styles, Planet Caravan is undoubtedly different to anything they ever did and its fucking amazing. Also their last 2 albums with ozzy were very different to their earlier stuff and they began to become more prog rock. I suppose your point is for the most part, valid, but equally this could be to iommi's credit, he did fanny about trying to play folk songs, he stuck to what he was good at. Also Pages originality is questionable whereas Tony's isn't.

  • @svg1848 *didn't fanny about (woops)

  • No contest here. That Stairway solo from the Song Remains The Same can stand with anything done live by anybody in rock history. And you chopped off the best part!

  • @StryderKross Exactly

  • jimmy page!

  • wow this is a battle btw the creator or rock music and the creator of metal music....this is like world war!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • .....and black sabbath is the better band out of the two

  • Personally i think tony iommi is better at the song writing, his riffs are much better than jimmy page.IMO best riffs ever heard out of a guitar

    As for LIVE .. jimmy may have a bit better stage presence than iommi but jimmys playing started gettin really sloppy after about 1973'ish.

    Tony i think sounds even better live with his solos and the band itself would go off on these random awesome jazz/jams

    Jimmy may be more technical/complicated at his playing but not better than Iommi in my opinion

  • FUCK JIMMY!!

    im tired of hearing his name.TOMMI KICKS HIS BALLS.TOMMI DOES NOT HAVE FINGER TIPS AND STILL IS KICKASS.jimmy on the other hand has finger.BLACK SABBATH FTW

  • tie

  • like Pagey more.

  • Tony Rulez !!!!!!!!!

  • Tony Iommi thousand times !!!!

    many people doesnt like cuz he belongs to black sabbath, ans sabbath is to hard for theyr virginal ears, they just can stand the fancy rock pop of led zeppelin.

    Iommy & Sabbath Forever !!!!

  • giving it to page. this video makes him look bad compared to tony

  • they are ROCK GODS

  • Jimmy page is more energetic but Tony is better

  • guess i'll chime in also

    i love them both, Iommi is far underratted so is blackmore

    Zep expieriments with every sound, "the IMIGRANT SONG" is metalish, zep did it ALL !! they have to be included ,they created sounds without worries of labels.

    yea Page can move more freely around the stage,but Iommi IS awsome too

    ANYWAY.....

    JUST CHECK OUT GEEZER UP THERE, ha ha ha , hes alota fun to watch play

    he looks like hes playing lead

    AMAZEING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Tony gave two bits of fingers to Heavy metal... may he be blessed for this.

  • Some of Iommi's true diversity can be heard on the not very known Never Say Die!(1978) album which is very jazzy in contrast to his past work.

  • this page is filled with tone deaf listeners.

    iommi was all about the riff.that's it.

    with jimmy well,he had the riffs and the songs.

    KINGARTHUR3341, EPIC FAIL!

  • Jimmy page and Tony iommi is a tie because even though jimmy could out solo him (tony is fucking bad ass too when he solos),tony closses the gap with his riffs (his riffs are just to fucking good, some of the best ive ever heard). Tony also brought a unique dark heavy sound that is killer even to this fucking day. jimmy was more technical with his stuff(just try playing stair way to heaven or babe im gonna leave you ),but tony's stuff is not easy either. But better sounding riffs? tony wins

  • jimmy page e stato il pionere dell heavy metal insieme a toni yommi !!!ma quello che ha fatto page yommi se lo sogna

  • led zeppelin is in no way heavy metal who ever thinks that is a fucking retard! led zeppelin is hard rock and only hard rock. they ARENT heavy metal for the last time!

  • sabbath isn't heavy metal.

    all the metalheads will through tantrums now.

    Flames262574,you should shut the fuck up respectively!

    jimmy refused to be "stigmatized".

    iommi is less "eclectic".

    you have been taken to school.jackass.

  • @gibsongold1970 yeah good job on taken someone to school. FAIL.

  • Jimmy page is a far more developed guitar player as a whole. tony is a great riff guitarist but that's about it.

  • led zeppelin isnt metal? when are people gonna realize that, and u cant compare jimmy page and tony iommi

  • @MrTylerRich they are hard rock and heavy metal

  • The Two have very different styles...

    You cant compare them IMO..

  • jimmy page is gay?

    iommi stands there like a fucking dimp

    and could hardly come up with mindblowing music.

    jimmy is all over the stage rocking the fuck out!

    fucking guy was doing session work when he was fifteen!

    all the retards on this page are just a bunch of disgruntled metal heads

    who cannot except that tony stands in jiimy's shadow and always will.

  • @gibsongold1970 Iommi stands there because his guitar pretty much plays it's self. Metaphorically speaking of course. He wasn't flashy like Page, Iommi could blow people's minds by standing there playing one hell of a solo, you don't have to run all over the stage to make you guitar sound good. Iommi unleashed a army of guitarists, yeah Page did influence alot but not as many as Iommi. Iommi was like a evil genious that didn't speak much

  • @gibsongold1970 they both are good so shut the fuck up

  • what singer is singing for sabbath there?

  • I love them both ... but for me lead Jimmy :o)

  • IOMMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • jimmy page is GOD

  • Tony win

  • Tony Iommi is the best because he didn't steal things from other bands with out crediting the original owners., like seriously the whole of the first led zepplin album is stolen apart from good times bad times, which is a shame because Jimmy is a very talented guitarist.

  • TONY IOMMI ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • iommy is great...but jimmy page is jimmy page, he is the best!

  • this is not a contest at all so many better players than tony,and buy the way there is only 1 jimmy page-jimmy is way out of his league-but i like tony-love black sabath,but jimmy is the total musician-that is y zepp was a much better band-sabath was a 1 trick pony-love the hard stuff-but sometimes u got to change it up a notch-thats y zepp will always be the best of all time

  • jimmy page is gay tony iommi ROCKS

  • both great guitarists but iommi could never improvise like page did in this vid.

  • Tony Iommi is Theeeeee BEEEESTTTTTTTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jimmy Page, by a mile...

  • seriously they're both gods and as individual musicians it's absolutely retarded to compare them, especially in a competitive fashion. nevermind that the tone for that opening solo for Paranoid is completely different than the one in Stairway. However in terms of sheer badassness(not a real word but I don't care) Black Sabbath easily trumps Led Zeppelin. The Heaviest band of all time, no contest.

  • Once talking in a pub in London with a guy he told me that he never believed in rock n roll stories, Like McCartney being dead and Bowie being an Alien.. But when I asked him if he believed that Page had sold his soul to the Devil he said -don't even joke about it ! That's fucking true! Cause there's no way a normal human can play like him :D PAGE THE BEST OF THE BEST !!!

  • Jimmy is my favorite guitarist because of his creativeness and dynamic style, but Sabbath rocks too.

    Iommi played an awesome and cleaner live performance than Page.

    Page's lead had more feeling and improvising even though it is choppy at times.

    Page looked cooler while playing too! LOL

  • @Orion579 bollocks, neither one of them has more feeling than the other.  feeling is both Iommi and Page's specialty.

  • iommi vs page live? iommi

  • iommi is better in music writting and technic but jimi is faster

  • @manos199621 wow, faster makes a better gutarist. and jimmy's not faster. fuck off!!!!!!!! u poser doesn't even know how to spell his name. to me, being fast doesn't impress me. it's how much feel they have. and instead of rough notes, they play sweet notes. people just don't get what makes a good guitarist.

  • im naming my band zebbeth!

    Sabbath + Zeppelin

  • Jimmy Page without a doubt

  • pointless debate both are great

  • Are fantastic both, the fathers of metal and the sons of blues. But I think Jimmy Page is better

  • they are both different styles.

    iommi is more hard heavy metal style.

    jimmy page is a bluesy soft guy.

  • In terms of technical playing skills and ability Jimmy Page is no doubt far superior to Tony Iommi. However, when it comes to music writing ability Iommis riffs and brilliantly structured solos beat any guitar player there has even been and most likely will ever be.

  • Due grandissimi chitarristi ma i loro stili sono molto diversi. Page ha toccato numerosi generi (blues, folk, country, rock n'roll, reggae), Iommi è incentrato prettamente sul blues e per il suo stile l'ha reso più lento e oscuro. Se parliamo di hard rock Page sarà sicuramente più importante di Iommi ma se parliamo di heavy metal Tony è il padre di ogni chitarrista del genere.

  • THIS IS A HARD DECISION, THEY ARE BOTH FANTASTIC, THEY BOTH HAVE ME LISTENING TO METAL, I THINK IOMMI REIGNS SUPREME CUZ HE HAS NO FINGER TIPS AND STILL CREATES UNBELIEVABLE MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • you cant compare thing of two different natures they both played different music but in my opinion jimmy's better but tony is still a very very very good guitarist and musician

  • Tony Iommi is better, he's just underrated. He is the inventor of the heavy metal guitar all other bands followed with I believe

  • My 2 favorites! How can i choose...?

  • Page!!!

  • this is like comparing the sun to the moon, night to dawn.

    it just can't be decided. these guys are both gods of rock,

    and made some of the most amazing songs and albums

    in history. much love and respect to both of them. \m/

  • iommi sucks without the delay i bet! hahaha

  • both are great and i think it was IMO's style which started heavy metal. But i think Jimmy was a little bit better.

  • its a matter of taste.

    its not like comparing the jonas brothers to the guess who.

    its a god vs a god.

    not for us to decide which is better.

    whoever loves page loves iommi as well

  • i cant see how you people compare these two great guitarists, is it based on style or speed or knowledge of actual music or experience. i say forget whos better and just enjoy

  • You can't really compare the two, they are both greats, it's like comparing Oranges and Tangerines. Sure they might be related but the taste is remarkably different. Respect both for their contributions and don't worry about which was "Better" they were both awesome.

  • @Triberius theyre both citrusy though. meaning they both taste good.

  • Iommi is better than Page listen turn up the nigth

  • Hey, do the guys who spend a bnch of time arguing who is better ever just stop and think, "Hey, no one really gives a shit"

  • If Jimmy is God than Iommi is the Devil, equal in power but perceived differently. They spawned two branches of rock/metal. One gave us Bad Company, Van Halen, Motley Crue and glam. The other, Priest, Maiden, Metallica, and Slayer. I prefer the latter bands, that is Iommi's legacy.

  • Jimmy Page is GOD...of course Iommy is a very good guitarist too, but jimmy kick his ass...

  • @thansax fuck you iommi is the god here this solo is amzing

  • IoMMI!!!

  • IoMMI!!

  • shit man that first guitar solo from tony sounds almost exactly like brian mays solos he did for brighton rock/son and daughter

  • im goin with page. both were incredibly innovative. jimmy played with his heart not his hands.

  • definitely iommi

  • tommi iommi

  • tony iommi

  • page without any doubt

  • i prefer tony iommi

  • i prefer tony iommi

  • Iommi, is the Godfather of metal guitar as we all know it to be, his pentatonic licks and blues scale based picking have defined the instrument played in the style we all so love. Paige is fuckn awesome BUT Zepplin were a pop band, BLACK SABBATH is the reason we are even havn this conversation.

  • zeppelin is NOT a pop band. there is nothing farther from pop than led zeppelin. they are hard rock, blues rock, heavy metal, and folk rock.

  • Page is the greater of the two, unquestionably.

    We shouldn't even be debating this.

    Sabbath were strongly influenced by Led Zeppelin, as theyve stated. So Sabbath would never have reached their heights without Zeppelin.

    Page had for more musical skill, covering far more genres. He was also far more influential. Black Sabbath focused more on the same types of music, showing lack of musical knowledge, unlike Zeppelin.

    Oh and dont listen to scottelliottmusic, hes VERY biased that its ridiculous.

  • @AllysWorld05 WTF? Page stole half his catalog from other artists and claimed the songs for himself. He's sloppy as shit.

    Page is 2nd biggest rock and roll douchebag, next to Gene SImmons.

  • @AllysWorld05 um...one this is about Iommi and Page, not the bands they were in. Two, Iommi invented a new style of music, whereas Page just ripped off other people and played with more distortion. And anyone who has an opinion is biased, so thats not a bad thing. Otherwise its just a bunch of objective facts with no judgement. Lastly, I find it hard to believe you listen to full Sabbath albums if you think they stuck to one kind of music.

  • two of the best guitar players of the world, i personaly prefer Iommi, but its all about taste, we cant say that one is better than the other.

  • They're one of the first true rock guitarists. Clapton, Hendrix, and Carlos Santana follow.

  • I'd like to point out that the intro Tony does at the beginning sounds like the 'Brighton Rock Solo' Brian May does in '85 at Wembley Stadium.

  • @Pyrocamo....I believe that was in '86....and who knows when this footage is from? That looks like Tony Martin, so most likely after, but aside from the delay and staccato picking, not much is the same. Anything w/ delay and staccato picking in that scale will sound similar.

  • @Kashmir0109....ok, but listen to "Fluff" to hear his melodic ability, Listen to "Wicked Word" (esp. last 5min) to see him beat out "Heart Breaker" for speed and attitude, then into the finger-picking melody, then "Bit of Finger->Warning", how 'bout "A National Acrobat" "Sabbra Cadabra"....yeah hes way better, or at the very least equal.Page does nothing Iommi can't do better, except Sabbath just wrote scarier songs so chicks didn't dig 'em as much and dudes go where the chicks go.

  • i consider iommi a better riffer and page a better soloist

  • @ledzeprocks....i disagree...listen to "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" "Wicked World" "PLANET CARAVAN"!!!! You wana hear some wicked blues lead, check the outro of "Planet Cravan", Page NEVR had the finesse/touch....even "Jack the Stripper" has some decent leads in it...Page's solos are just more known in popular culture.

  • You have always got to remember that allot of times they changed it up or are feeling a certain vibe. I do that sometimes to give it a fresh spin. Tony and Jimmy are two different style of players both good. Everyone has a favorite. Long live rock!

  • Who"s singing with Sabbath

  • Ian Gillan from deep purple he had a stint with sabbath for a while

  • was this him?

  • yeah its him he kinda loox like dio but when u look @ his face its Gillan

  • Tony Martin

  • I settle this arguement with a bud of mine,this way, Django reinhardt number 1 wes montgomery 2 all else is moot.

  • @Samtitheg....well said...I'd def. put Les Paul, Ry Cooder or Mark Knophler over Page any day....and those are just the more popular guys....

  • agreed scott you know yer shit dude.

  • @samtotheg....I know a bit....a bit more than people who get their info. from "top 10 guitar player" lists....I just listen and respect the players I couldn't emulate in my first 3 years of playing...

  • too fucking hard too choose but my favorite band out of the two is led zeppelin

  • this is like comparing a revolver with a 50. cal sniper rifle (and jimmy is the 50. cal) jimmy is a guitar god nobody not even hendrix is better then page he made the best riffs and best solos... (maybe i got a little exited ofcourse jimi hendrix is just at good as page :))

  • i don't get y everyone uses da stairway solo i mean page did much better solos then that

  • agreed

  • @Guitarrifflessons....yeah... probably because most people dont play and go by popular opinion so they can be 'right'...the solo to Whole Lota Love, to me , is THE best hard rock guitar solo I have ever heard. Its screaming intensity, dangerous bends and killer punctuation make my fingers twitch every time!

  • for me the heartbreaker solo is the greatest solo in the history of rock. if u see it @ madison square gardens you can hear the springs in his guitar squeal

  • @guitarrifflessons....I disagree, it lacks melody, is too sloppy and stuttering to be a truly great solo. A solo should fit the song, not just be a spot where the band drops out and the guitar player freaks out for a bit. I think the "Whole Lotta Love" solo fits the song perfectly. And I find it hard to believe springs squeal. Les Pauls and Telle's dont have springs, so unless he was completely out of character and playing a strat, I don't see how that could happen. can you send me a link to it?

  • Iommi is way more fluid and melodic.he can play just as fast as, but has more control.Page is more a shit-kicking guitar player, wild loose and whatever he hits, he's so convincing that it LOOKS right, but I doesn't sound right.....and Iommi has fake fingertips, so in my book he's like Page upgraded and more refined. And i like Sabbath better, so maybe I'm biased. but some of that LOTR stuff in Zepp gets pretty lame for me (lyrically).And Battle of Evermore sounds like crucifixion music.

  • Tony!!! more than rockman

  • Jimmy Page is God

    end of the fucking story

  • Jimmy page ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Iommi is also a god of guitar I respect him, Led Sabbath, and Black Zeppelin that's what heavy metal is all about

  • Tony for sure. Tony is possibly the best riff writer in rock history.

  • Tony Iommi è un eccellente chitarrista, ma come Jimmy Page non c'è nessuno! Ascoltatevi dazed and confused del concerto "the song remains the sane" e capirete

  • I have tremendous respect for page and feel he is overall better but as a metalhead i worship IOMMI!

  • TONY!

    Did you saw Tony's solo, that was a sick kick ass solo. Jimmy dosen't play good solos.

    when jimmy plays solos you can nearly hear it, he's solos is just boring

  • Iommi, end of fucking story.