Ignatieff prepared to lead coalition government

[00Billy]

This is as exciting as he gets....

Unless he's getting flustered and gaffing another press conference

[thedude3092]

Hypocrite Harper needs to go!

[BenThour]

Looks like Layton is going to work with Harper now. SHOCKING! Harper and the commie! lol

[kickass133]

BULLS*** he did go it to partnership with harper

[kickass133]

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[swordofjutice]

What I don't like about Ignatieff is that he was not elected as leader. The liberals forgot that the grass roots want a say about who the new leader should be. Because of that, I will not vote liberal until a new leader is elected.

[universalradio]

What I do not like about Harper is that he is an Evangelical Christian, belonging to the Alliance Church, goes to a huge church west of Calgary that you can only get to by using an SUV.They believe Jesus will return in an apocalypse, that homosexuality is the basest of "sins", women don't figure in government, and they are dead set against abortion, PLUS, they believe that those who are not in Alliance are "The Lost". They are sneaky about their tactics to convert, and it shows in him.

[Gillhoolee]

This 'Guy' is good.

[Rickdeckard2020]

Parliment has voted on granting asylum to individuals that refuse to wage war, the HArper government ignored this vote going against the will of the majority of canadians and expelled a US serviceman anyway

/watch?v=kFN01eHw6IM

We need a coalition government that will have the confidence of parliment and respect the votes of the representatives elected by Canadians.

[nEWSoFtHEnORTHiSLAND]

There are some funny comments here!!

I love the one to remove the Governor General!!

Ha! Ha! Ha!

There is a good NDP movement!!

Ha! Ha! Ha!

The same kind of Movement PET did with our charter!!

Lucky we still have her, or there would be NDP LIB BLOC Tanks on Parliment Hill as was mentioned by High ranking NDP Party Members

Lucky Mr C was there with a new pen!!

TTFN

[ThisBoyTV]

First thing I would love to see him do is abolish the position of Governor General. Our Prime Minister needs to be responsible to the people of Canada. No more running to the Queen of England's representative.

Mulrooney ran to the Queen of England to pass the GST. Harper did it to shut down our Parliament. 'King Charles I' did the same thing as Harper in 1641 and was beheaded for doing so.

Canadian Parliament for and by Canadians. Harper insulted us by what he did.

[zutroy1]

you don't know anything about our parliamentary democracy. The ones who were out of lign with the intended use of our house were the coalition you partisan fool

[Billy982810]

Remember Remember the fifth of November V

[BRANSCOMBEx]

come on, screw off and just let harper do his job that people ELECTED him to do.

He has a plan, why do you say he doesnt??

[BoredomCorner]

@BRANSCOMBEx Harper hasn't been willing to actually lead this country, just conquer it.

[mikefastener]

@BoredomCorner Amazing! Leaders from around the world coming to an economic conference in Canada to learn how Mr. Harper has made Canada the envy of the world during this economic crisis! Wow--we are all so proud him!

Better a PM who understands me (a hockey dad) than a Russian Count who has been out of the country for 42 years, right?

[irishgodfatherchris]

@mikefastener really here in Australia we have the best performing Western Economy, we will be out of debt before everyone else, Canada will not be out of debt for a long time that is not the backbone of a stable economy

[mikefastener]

@irishgodfatherchris Sorry, but Australia is not part of the G7 (the big boys). In addition, you have a huge amount of resource industries supplying to China which helps.

"Canada will not be out of debt for a long time....not the backbone of a stable economy"

Better than the other G7's...agreed?

[irishgodfatherchris]

@mikefastener you've been harping on about then G8 for a long time even though it no longer exists. you are doing better than the UK and US agreed but consider this Australia will be in surplus before the next election (thats less than 3 years away)

[mikefastener]

@irishgodfatherchris But again, Australia is not part of the "Big Boys" club right?

(Canada is.)

[irishgodfatherchris]

and we also have large domestic demand for products which is why our economy has survived

[mikefastener]

@irishgodfatherchris Again several reasons for Australia's success (having had a recent government led by Mr. Howard certainly helped).

[irishgodfatherchris]

@mikefastener no the previous Governments under Keating and Hawke did that without their reforms Howard would've had nothing because like most Liberal PM's they do nothing aside from screw the constituents.

[mystrial]

NDP

[liberty4canada]

Ignatieff doesn't exactly sound eager to work with Harper.

This is just how Dion started out, what makes Iggy think anything will be different this time around. I'm just surprised he hasn't mentioned the "hidden agenda" or compared Harper to Bush yet.

[carmie1818]

He doesn't have to. Any sane Canadian over the age of 18 knows the similarities.

[zutroy1]

Yeah right, go ahead and detail these non-existant similarities. I assume you're another ignorant high schooler who doesnt even know that Canada's conservatives are more left wing and more liberal than the US democrats.

[carmie1818]

You fool. Harper is an Alberta separatist and a former Reform party leader. When he took control of the Conservative party, they moved to the right. Everyone close to the party knows this, including Brian Mulroney.

Our Canadian political system has never been farther to the right on the political spectrum as it is now.

When Dion took control of the Liberals he moved them to the left, with his bullshit policies. Ignatieff will take them back to a centrist party where they belong.

[a1mint]

Ignatieff is of a completely different caliper than Dion. They can't be compared at all.

Harper isn't exactly eager to work with the COUNTRY - think about THAT!

[universalradio]

Ignatieff scares the shit out of Harper, as it should be. He is an excellent debater, and he does not mince words, does not use typical politicians' phrases. "When will these little grease spots begin to tell the truth?", is a prime example of his gift for making a point. And he has pointed out very clearly that "this is about HIS (Harpers) characrter. . " or lack of it.

You're awfully naive and narrowminded, liberty.

[universalradio]

You really display a lot of ignorance, and I'd say you might want to look a little closer at Ignatieff, but you obviously don't have the smarts to get beyond your obvious adoration of Harper. Do you belong to the same church as his, by any chance?

[liberty4canada]

Take your personal attacks somewhere else. You've called me a liar for stating the facts, now you say I am stupid and ignorant and you imply I'm a religious zealot.

I've been following both Harper and Ingnatieff for years, and I base my opinions about their politics and leadership on facts, reason and my own convictions. I neither adore Harper nor hate Ignatieff, and whether I belong to a church (I don't) is irrelevant. Shame on you for mentioning it. How about a respectful, rational debate?

[universalradio]

Never mind evading things by whining about "personal attacks".I said that you were only telling part of the story, and I might add that you're telling a biased version of the story. You have no idea whether Harper thinks the way Ig does, and you're obviously a slave to one point of view. Harper is going down - and it's because he lacks character, he's dishonest, and he is intent ONLY on getting a majority - not on the welfare of the country.

Harper draws people who are as dishonest as he is

[liberty4canada]

You're right, I DON'T know what Harper is thinking, nor Ignatieff. What makes you think you do?

You say I'm biased, but all I've done is present the facts. Are the facts biased? What facts do you disagree with anyway?

Anyway, I'm not a partisan. You sound more like one that I do. If you think calling Harper names and ascribing motivations helps your case then just keep it up. But rational people see that for what it is - nonesense.

[universalradio]

I'm not partisan -- I just want to get that ugly SOB out of 24 Sussex. I don't care who takes his place, as long as they don't have an Evangelical, Fundamentalist, religious agenda. Unfortunately for the PCs, their merging with the redneck Alliance/Reform party has filled the ranks with Fundies who want the government changed to protect and promote their religion. Canadians won't stand for it.

[BoredomCorner]

@liberty4canada That's funny, Iggy hasn't been willing to fight Harper off either.

[carbs101]

Doesn't this guy support the war in Iraq and Afghanistan?

[carmie1818]

No Canadian politician, with the exception of our Prime Minister, has ever supported the war in Iraq.

[carbs101]

Okay, then what are his views on Israel?

[liberty4canada]

Actually Ignatieff was a staunch supporter of the preemptive war in Iraq based on the 'Responsibility to Protect' doctrine he helped develop. He's changed his mind since there weren't actually any WMDs, which is exactly the same position as Harper.

[carmie1818]

Ignatieff wasn't a member of parliament when he developed that act, and when he made that statement. Harper was. Also, Ignatieff made a complete withdraw from his support in 2007, "The unfolding catastrophe in Iraq has condemned the political judgment of a president, but it has also condemned the judgment of many others, myself included, who as commentators supported the invasion."

Harper would never swallow his vast pride in this manner.

[liberty4canada]

You're applying a double standard.

Ignatieff wasn't a member of Parliament, but he WAS a vocal advocate of the Iraq war at Harvard. That matters since he wants to be Prime Minister, just like it matters for Harper.

Also Harper called the Iraq war a 'mistake' during the 2006 election and he repeated that a few times since then, and again during the 2008 election. So both men have almost exactly the same position on this, and in fact Harper 'swallowed his pride' before Ignatieff.

[carmie1818]

I'll accept that. Just don't ask me to ever accept Harper's politics. His "my way or the highway" stance with his ministers, goes against our Canadian political system. He also has shown where his priorities are in dealing with the Alberta tar sands. I laughed when he accused the Liberals and the NDP of making a deal with the "separatists". This coming from the guy who once wrote a paper on why Alberta should separate.

Have a merry Christmas Liberty, it was stimulating reading your opinions.

[universalradio]

WRONG. Tell the truth - he was for the war, because he wanted to get rid of Saddam, due to the fact that as a human rights expert, and one who has actually travelled to those dangerous places -- he was very concerned about the welfare of the Kurds. He felt at the time that the war would get rid of Hussein and rescue the Kurds. LATER, he withdrew his support for the war, and said it was a mistake.

Don't make remarks that are only partially true.

[liberty4canada]

You just called me a liar and then repeated my point. Ignatieff was an vocal Iraq war supporter, as justified using the humanitarian R2P doctrine he helped develop. Then he backed-away from his position in a NY Times op ed (Getting Iraq Wrong, Aug 5, 2007), saying he was right to take that position as an academic, but not as a politician. He didn't say it was a mistake, but almost. Harper DID say it was a mistake during the 2006 election. Its a fact they have very similar positions on this.

[universalradio]

Harper thinks like a politician, and a dishonest politician at that. They are very different people - there's no way that Ig has any similarities to Harper. Harper is a parasite - any change in position he made was due to his typical scurrying around in the dark, watching what others are thinking - he's probably kept track of Ig for years. Iggy's position was an honest one, Harper's position was self-serving-- calculated to further his ambitions to a majority government. He's a dishonest creep.

[liberty4canada]

Nice double standard, but I'd be interested in an opinion that isn't based on ascribing motivations and making ad hominem attacks.

I've been following both Harper and Ingantieff for years, and the truth is Harper's words and actions have far more integrity than Ignatieff's. That may change now that Iggy is leader, but until now he has been talking out of both sides of his mouth, and too quick to take the low road. Ignatieff agrees with Harper on most issues but he sometimes claims otherwise.

[universalradio]

Empty-headed pomposity isn't going to get you anywhere. It's patently clear that you're not well-informed, that you haven't been following Ignatieff "for years". All you're "following" is the PCs party line, which ends in the Alliance Church these days. You can scream "ad hominem" all you want - that only proves that you spend too much time on the internet. Probably in a basement. It's not going to work. Harper can muzzle his cabinet, and the press, but you can't muzzle the 'net.

[liberty4canada]

You can call me a liar, stupid, ignorant, empty-headed, and ill-informed all you want, but that doesn't make your 'arguments' any stronger, quite the contrary.

Despite your disrespectful attacks, I hope you will notice that through this 'debate' I have not called you any names or otherwise insulted you. But after reading your latest comments about Christians, conservatives an others, I can only conclude you are a hate-filled bigot. Go fuck yourself.

[BoredomCorner]

@liberty4canada Newsflash: Harper's core supporters are ultra-conservative religious fundamentalists. That's not exactly a secret, nor is mentioning that an attack on Christians as a whole.

[Yarcofin]

At least he speaks English.