David Icke Talks to Freedom Central in Zurich November 2009, 4 of 9

[archemis07]

From a physical existential plane perspective, david is correct. however, this realm is designed, by the creator, because nothing exists outside of God's awareness, for us to experience apparent separation. From a higher consciousness perspective, we have locked ourselves into the 'game'. the negative forces are a necessary 'evil', and serve this reality, to allow us to experience separation, and use our free will, to make negative and/or positive choices. Reconnect to god / source. Game over.

[bodunchar]

hello people.

mantra meditations are easy and very powerful, and you don't have to say the mantra out loud.

stick with them if you can.

[jamesarongray]

lol @ double the toilet roll order

[BZCAPMOOR]

interesting ideas. I can be sceptic about the human only perspective. We have billions of species and varieties on this planet. If some (force) set the ball rolling once creating this huge complexity, from microorganisms up to humans, to see a purpose in this, it had to be some kind of experiment. We are here to explore the unknown, not just humans but every species, ants, whales what have you. It is not like 99.99 % waste species, humans being the exception.

[rosiewells13]

Hurry up and finish your book David!

[sigrunav]

"life is not meant to be a bitch and then you die".... brilliant. It sums up my thoughts.

[darjiling2]

Altho I appreciate Davids insight, the answer lies beyond. He and we are in our own 'matrix'. Use your own intuition to get beyond. Raise your awareness and follow your intuition.

[Nacluw]

Are you serious? .... Aren't we all in the same "matrix"? At least that's what I thought... And that's why I always was like wtf is icke talking about when he says we make up our own reality; such that we want. Because we are all consciousness is the same matrix things like if every1 wanted to be rock star in their heart it couldnt be possible cuz then there would be no one to come in your shows you know what i mean? Correct me if im wrong...

[darjiling2]

Good question. I am not convinced that someone/some group is creating a matrix in which we all live. We all may be perceiving different aspects of one or maybe we project our own... It does seem we are not distinct entities as we believe. ..hmmm

[Nacluw]

One theory to answer my own question for me would be: We're all just parts of the same consciousness (that's what I've understood from icke..?). And therefore what one individual thinks reflects to the whole consciousness and affects all of the consciousness "parts". And so if one wants more of what someone else wants then the one who wants less will eventually lose his interest and beginning desiring something else. If it works like a self correcting totality.

[omaxpi]

its a bit of a paradox....you can't reason it out. yes, we create reality, but there is of course a construct that we are trapped in as well. its all very annoying.

[Alberad08]

That idea of reaching the critical mass makes pretty much sense to me. Note: the great Cyprian mystic Stylianos Atteshlis pointed out that thíngs like a war can not happen if there are enough people who really have peace in their hearts - and he didn't mean to have more than the half of a population of a country, like democratic rules would suggest. The number of people necessary to realize this is definitely smaller because the spiritual power of a human heart filled with peace is thus strong.

[BottledIntentions]

they can't access this state because they are filled with fear and rage themselves. If you are filled with anger or fear you can't get to it but it can change DNA without doubt. If you want to wake up you need to calm down.

[MrVorudo]

5:43

Time's up scumbags!

[CrikeySpiders]

The more I listen to Icke, the more I think he just talks in riddles. This "vibrational change" he keeps going on about is really about proportionately more of the population are questioning their governments and what they see and hear through mainstream media.

He's never specific enough.

[gringolazlo]

Yes, it is a vibrational change reflecting the more questioning and outside-of-the-box proportion of the populace. The internet has played a big part in eluding the control of information which has been the the norm throughout the ages. The winners no longer re-write history.

[ZenMuadDib1]

it's not riddles it's physics.

[gringolazlo]

not sure how thats relevent to my comment.

[chumbawomba]

Do you agree that chemtrails are primarily designed to block cosmic energy from increasing the self awareness of the individual's consciousness level? Also due to the galactic alignment, a vibrational energy shift will change the resonant frequency of earth, which is another reason why leaps have taken place over time? The timing of the aerial spraying campaign would seem to fit with the timeline of the galactic alignment.

It would also explain why the Illuminati is steeped in cosmic symbology?

[CoHproduction]

Chemtrails were invented by Edward Teller. The "idea" was to address global warming by spraying tons of aluminum particles in the air, blocking solar activity. However..we don't know exactly the real reason. It's like the war in Iraq.

Some naive people, Bush went there to get Al quada out. Others think, because of the oil. Others believe because of star gates.

[garden333]

I agree we are in a prison and don't even know it.

Our food, water, health, drugs, tv, religion, education are used to control us.  Look up the ingredient on the back of your toothpaste, and learn the truth.

[iceseehugh]

great!