@zippyweinstein well it's a lot easier to coordinate 0.1% of the population than it is to coordinate 99% of the population. I think Occupy Wall St. is a beginning, but only a beginning. It's a good beginning. People need to hear the message and realize that we have POWER in number and under the law and founding ideals of this country. The MAJORITY SHOULD ALWAYS WIN.
@zippyweinstein well it's a lot easier to coordinate 0.1% of the population than it is to coordinate 99% of the population. I think Occupy Wall St. is a beginning, but only a beginning. It's a good beginning. People need to hear the message and realize that we have POWER in number and under the law and founding ideals of this country. The MAJORITY SHOULD ALWAYS WIN.
Seriously, what the hell? Tax cuts for everyone while you have a huge deficit: only brings more deficit you idiots! Tax cuts for the rich only: Same result you idiots! No more tax cuts, meaning the rich has to pay just as much as the rest in % of their income: Since that would mean a lot MORE income for the country, maybe you can also finally start paying off some of that deficit then!
@zippyweinstein America never was a full democracy but rather a republic. Even so that has long passed as well, and comes closer to a police state now. If this keeps on going, it might even shift into a full on 'dictatorship of the rich' within 5 years. Where, as the name implies, the rich decide everything and the rest are just screwed.
shit yeah they said that. all those anchors are worried they would get taxed more then they might have to stop pissing shit tons of money away on fuck off time and start living like us poor folk.
Great video. This further proves that Fox news (esp. the cable channel) isn't trustworthy. Even MSNBC does a better job of keeping their facts straight. There are better sources for conservative minds, but it's slim picking these days I'm afraid. Maybe you cons should pay your local PBS stations some money. Seriously. I know I do, even with my tight budget.
I am sorry this is all absurd. Tax is always pointing a gun at someones head and taking their money/debt receipts. The issue isnt that rich people dont pay their fair share. The issue is that the government is in place for thier benifit. People complain about corporatism taking over the country but dont realize that it is only possible because the government protects them from us. Also raising taxes on corporations is only raising taxes on us because they are legally obliged to pass it on to us.
People say limitless Freedom is the foundation of a full functioning democracy Wrong.
If I punched someone in the face I'd get a fine, and that's just if I punched one person, yet these guys in the news punch hundreds of thousands of Americans in the face every single hour of every single day and no one fines them or ship them off to jail.
Until people are responsible for their words, Ignorance will spread like the freaking plague and will be the foundation of our democracy. Wait..too late.
I'm with @franzfarmir, you're completely awesome @LiberalViewer. But as for the questions, it is a FAKE news station, or "news" station flooding the media with bullshit propaganda.... Intent on causing confusing by leaving out facts, details, or arguments that ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE.
They will spend money to hire only if it looks like a better investment than all of the other options out there. If i were rich and got extra money from tax cuts, I would just invest it or hire low cost labor in china. Im not gonna hire americans just because the govt game me more money back.
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Youre absolutely crazy (bachman4president)...the rich do NOT create jobs...DEMAND creates jobs. If there is demand and some rich guy doesnt want to meet it by hiring more people? screw him... someone else will start a business and take his place...thats a TRUE free market system.
The one thing I keep trying to figure out: If the wealthiest have more money they will create more jobs. Well tax cuts or not the wealthiest are always making more money but the job growth is nil.
When fucking congressman Boner got on and called the wealthiest the "job creators" and how we can't raise taxes on the "job creators" I laughed my ass off.
Fox News - 44 is higher than 36. 44 is also higher than 14. So if 44% in favor of keeping the cuts for everyone is a high enough number to label it the majority than that of the 50% in favor of keeping the cuts if only under 250,000 a year or just letting them expire all together than that means 44 is greater than 50.
QUESTION: If the Dems keep crying that the GOP is all for the Rich, then why are the Richest Americans, Democrates and Not Republicans??? Hollywood, Oprah, Soros, Gates, Rockefellers. The Republicans are primarily middle class Americans NOT the Rich!!!
@DerektheDuctTape Maybe hollywood celebrities, but the only rich people in the world aren't famous people. CEO's of corporations are by in large in bed with the republicans. If rich people supported democrats so much, then why don't they get practically all of their campaign contributions from corporations, like the republicans do? Get your facts straight buddy.
The reason the corporations and banks are not putting money into the system is because they want Obama out of office. Watch what I say. If Obama loses re-election, that is when the corporations and banks will put money back into the system. They feel that Obama is sticking his nose in their business. You know what, they are right. He should because the corporations and especially the banks DON'T PRATICE fair equality for people which is why they need to be regulated....regulated....regulated
Someone should send Fox News a calculator, the numbers in that poll add up to 94, or at best 97. Bullshit polls on Fox News shouldn't surprise anyone, you'd think somebody would check their math.
@Killur10 Hence, the studies that showed Fox viewers are the MOST MISINFORMED viewers in television. People who get their news from the Daily Show are better informed.
@leetbarker Happiest people in the world: the DANES. Danish tax rates: 60-90% (90% in certain parts). Richest major economy GDP per capita (PPP): Norway. 60% taxes. Socialism FTW.
@coinpeace as far as i know, Us in denmark dont pay that much tax. 44-60% i believe. But we are happy. And we dont have a socialist government, we have a liberal conservative government.
@xpedebx1 Fully paid education, medicare, child care, shorter work weeks, more holidays, ect... In the US we consider that socialism but I guess from a European viewpoint that's normal.. I'm in favor for your style of government vs. capitalist government which is why I plan to move to Europe one day but I've been told by my friends parent who was born and raised in Sweden (might have been a skewed fact towards Denmark) who told me there are certain business taxes that can be up to about 90%..
@coinpeace Yeah. That figure is skewed. If Republicans maintain control of the House, get control of the Senate, and the White House, I’m off to Canada. Just won’t be able to take it. Sweden sounds good, too.
That deficit graphic showing the effect the Bush-era tax cuts have on our long-term budget problem is particularly relevant now that this debate is beginning to heat up. It's too bad that it never showed up in Ryan's proposal.
Let the damn cuts expire. We can't afford them anymore and close the loopholes that allows the folks who can afford the team of attorney's and accountants to avoid paying most of the taxes they're supposed to be paying.
The tax system is not fair. The top one percent of income earners pay 40% of the taxes collected in the country. The bottom 12% of income earners only pay 3% of the taxes.
@danlee89KS Exactly. That's why we need less government involvement and spending. We need more individual freedom. We need free markets, not crony capitalism/corporatism. That's how the power returns to the people. More central planning is exactly what the top 2% want. They don't want to have to answer to the power of individuals. They want the Fed, the deficit, the regulation, all of it. They benefit, and we all lose, and it's exactly because of what you say.
@bs070387 Let me also say that you are closed minded. I pride myself on using statistics and intellectual arguments to support my conservative viewpoints. Despite this you say "It's pretty much spoon-fed, but I'll assume your wife-cousin was yelling at your inbred children and you couldn't hear the nice man speak. I may also assume that your gay."
Obviously, you are not very intelligent. Instead of discussing facts, you would rather say this sort of thing.
Obviously, correlation does not equal causation. However, we can look at trends. Obviously, the fact that bigger government and higher taxes always mean slower growth and lower standards of living, wherever they are tried, could be correlation. However, overwhelming evidence shows that larger government hurts an economy substantially. This could all be coincidence. At some point, enough correlation does equal some causation.
@timpostor -- yes, I think abolishing the iRS is a golden idea for more reasons than I have room to list here. Let the police enforce whatever needs to be, and if not them the federal marshals... even the national guard is a better idea -- the IRS shouldn't be enforcing anymore than the DEA should be, but note I said sales tax only, so basically that's enforced at the level of transactions (no individual forms, etc.).
Bias begs the question: when you spend over budget you cannot change the numbers, the the govt. can and does. As one who saw taxes paid before and after the devaluation of the dollar, it saved the Congress from raising the tax rate (and facing the music) by way of our 'progressive' tax structure -- my house doubled in value too and was taxed accordingly as well as my wages. If you can't remember yesterday, don't bother thinking about tomorrow.
Very typical for the fox News snake oil salesmen. I'm amazed that things have become so screwed...and people are eating it up. My mom is a big fox news watcher, and they prey upon older folks, and their fears so incredibly well. Attempting to explain what they do, does no good. It's sad, really.
@LiberalViewer I like your videos, but sometimes it's hard to listen to someone who speaks almost entirely in run-on sentences connected by awkward pauses and "ands" and "buts" and "becauses" and "ors."
Bottom line is why do we even have a federal tax at all? we got it when the country needed to pay for the second world war, State tax yes i understand it i have no problem paying that we need good roads, schools, and aid for the poor, that i can see but why a federal tax it was to go away after the war was paid for but we still have it...
Is that why we have much of China still living under US$ 1.20 a day despite a "socialist market economy" Is that why America's healthcare is one of the worst in the First World? Is that why we still have child labor or unsafe working conditions in factories? Is that why we boom and bust cycles?
heres the myths about Obama - hes weak- funny both iraq and afghanistan recieved surges and Obama has had more drone attacks in 2 years than bushs post 9-11- Second Obama has already deported more illegals than bush did in 8-third the Bush family had direct dealings with the bin laden family yet Obamas somehow the "secret muslim?" does this mean i love Obama no- im just trying to prove that alot of these claims against him are false- no party could have fixed this fucked up economy
LMAO... Redistributing the wealth does not mean that taking away from the RICH MFer and give it to the POOR... It means that the RICH MFer should pay their fair shares instead off trying to steal from the POOR... I wish I could come all over Megyn's brain.. too bad she ain't got one... LMAOOOOOO
heres the facts- the rich have gotten richer - the middle class has shrunk- workers wages with inflation have flatlined or decreased- the poor have grown poorer- class warfare- as Warren Buffet(billionaire) said" there is class warfare and my side are winning it!"" The top 5% have increased their wealth 38% since the 80s- while the middle class actually saw a 2% decrease in wealth gain the same period!
@Claronium780 It IS raising taxes. Taxes were going to be higher next year than they were this year. That is the definition of a tax increase. To say that this is not a tax increase is just ridiculous. You also forget that Obamacare includes numerous new taxes, this means that taxes will be much higher than they were under Clinton.
@mmac382 actually "traditional" marriage was arranged by your parents to increase their lands..... also the bible defines shrimp and clothing of more than one fabric as just as "evil" as homosexuality...bible-beaters dont boycott bubba gump, cuz those things dont reinforce their bigotry... and i DEFY u to name a rep. who is ok with abortion
My parents and my wife's parents are very wealthy . My parents are Dems and her's are Repubs but my kids only want to spend time with their Repub grandparents .... why ?
Wow, this is bull. The Bush Tax Cuts are only 14% of the deficits. Actually, not even that. They created growth which partially paid for them. So, in the end, they cost nearly nothing. The real problem is Obama's spending and the entitlements that are not reformed.
@aaasssfffdddiii You forgot the huge benefit program he has put in place to support new and existing entrepreneurs. The rich can grow just fine without a tax cut, hell, many have already rebounded from this whole shit storm.
Oh, and taxing the shit out of the middle class while the rich get money off? Isn't kind of...REALLY stupid to have those denied essentials of life while the rich get a nice big tax exemption to put in that extra solid gold pool table?
@Stewiethebig R u joking? Obama has done all he can to hurt business. BTW, the middle class got a bigget tax cut than the rich. And we arent giving the rich money, we are stealing less of what is already theirs...
@aaasssfffdddiii See now, I am taking a political science class, and even my professor, possessing a doctorate in political sciences did not ask me for a source when I said what I just told you in front of the entire class. It was a project on US politics that I easily put 40 hours of study and research into. I probably know more about your politics than you ever have.
the rich can afford it. Why take less from the rich, and more from people who CANT afford it?
@Stewiethebig I'm sure he wouldn't ask you for a source, proffessors are notoriusly liberal. You're ideas fit perfectly into his world view, he really isnt interested in facts. If he was, he wouldve asked you for a source. Just because the rich can afford a tax hike does not make this good policy. The rich are the entrepeuners, businesspeople, and investors who keep our economy moving. Taking money from them hurts everyone else...
@aaasssfffdddiii No, she only asked for sources she did not already know. And yes, she is interested in facts. You aren't interested in facts. And yes actually, it does make a better policy if those you tax can afford it. They will still continue to grow. your argument is baseless and irrelevant
@Stewiethebig The rich are key to economic growth. They are the ones running the businesses, making the investments, and taking the risks. They are key to any economy debate. Raising taxes on the rich is terrible economic policy...
@aaasssfffdddiii no it isnt... they SAVE almost all the money they make, everyone else SPEND more than they save....the people most affected by the increases on the rich would be the wall street assholes that got us here in the first place, they dont even deserve to have that money, let alone get tax breaks on it.
@aaasssfffdddiii yes, ur right... thats why trickle down economics has worked so splendidly the last 10 years, lets do it more!!!! The only 'trickling' is the super-rich pissing on the rest of us. the best way to change course and get out of this mess is to do exactly what got us here, thatll work. if tax cuts on the rich created jobs, we wouldnt have 10% unemployment
@gr8z0mbiejesus Actually, Obama's keynesianism can be blamed for the 10% unemployment. The 2003 tax cuts sparked growth in the economy fro 4 years. We had 52 consecutive months of Job Growth, an alltime record. Bush also oversaw faster productivity growth than clinton, at 2.6% vs 2% for Clinton, and an average unemployment rate of 5.3%. I guess they did work pretty well....
@aaasssfffdddiii All you can do is repeat yourself, because you have nothing else. Every working and consumer helps the economy, not just the rich, and the rich will still grow.
@aaasssfffdddiii You did not present facts. You brought forward conjecture
Bush was a perfect example of the importance of condom use. Mixing church and state and a stupid war. Every single hick in the universe voted for him. Bush also did not have to clean up after his own war, or any of his own fuck ups...remember the mortgage problem? Why don't you just say Richard Nixon was a good president
@Stewiethebig Actually, Bush had nothing to do with the mortgage mess. He actually inherited a severe recession from Clinton. Clinton's policies on Fannie and Freddie has something to do with the 2008 mortgage crash. Also, Bush had to deal with 9/11. Despite these setbacks, Bush had a strong economic record....
@aaasssfffdddiii I took a little bit of time responding to this one. I had to figure out first hand that you are incorrect. Clinton may have created the problem, but Bush added fuel to the fire. That is a fact. Some say he simply did not even READ the documents he was signing. You once again prove your own inadequacy. Please, by all means, dig yourself deeper
@Stewiethebig As I said, there was no Bush deregulation. Heres what did happen under Bush, a record 52 consecutive months of job growth, an average unemployment rate of 5.3%, 2.6% average annual productivity growth (faster than Clinton and Reagan), a continuing rise in standards of living, and many new technologies that have helped Americans lives. This is because of Bush's progrowth tax cuts and business policy. There was no deregulation to speak of...
@aaasssfffdddiii I did not mention deregulation...Well, still, you are wrong. It may not have been major, but deregulation happened. Bush was not facing a recession, least of all like the one we are facing today, and the one in Iraq actually helped stimulate the economy for a little while(around 6 months). Basically speaking...aside from 9/11 Bush had no other shit on his plate. To say that the same situations apply is simply close minded and idiotic. Still feel like sinking lower?
@Stewiethebig Wat hurts the economy... it doesnt help it.. Bush actually inherited a recession from Clinton... and 9/11's a big deal... What deregulation? Name a deregulation bill that Bush signed???? You can't because he didn't... It was the 2003 tax cuts that caused the growth from 2003-2007..
@aaasssfffdddiii Dude...there WAS deregulation, but it was so insignificant that it really did not change anything. Prove to me that it was specifically the tax cuts that promoted growth, and not ANYTHING else that was going on. Keep going man, I don't even need political science to argue with you. Try logic
@Stewiethebig Well, the tax cuts were passed in May 2003, the unemployment rate starting going down in June 2003. Right after they were passed, we had 52 consecutive months of Job Growth... What was the deregulation???
@aaasssfffdddiii There are simply to many variables to consider for you to say that this one changes is a perfect correlation to unemployment rate. Any science teacher will tell you: correlation does not equal causation. That is common sense. In other words, you cannot claim that the tax cuts were in fact what cause unemployment rates to drop. Do you have deregulation tourettes? I must say, having your ass kicked by a Canadian must be frustrating.
@Stewiethebig Ok, GDP and income growth was also much stronger after the tax cut. The same happened after the 1997, 1986, 1981, and 1964 tax cuts, they all had strong economic growth afterwards...
@aaasssfffdddiii Too many variables to consider. You do not know it was the tax cut that did that. There are far too many confounds in the equation. Logic defeats you. Give up troll, I can do this all week
@aaasssfffdddiii It is actually. Because you arent listening. You cannot prove that it was the tax cut. You simply cant. They're are too many other things to consider. When you make such a weak-ass argument, I dont need facts.
@Stewiethebig Exactly, you don't need facts to back up your argument. You just don't care about them.. No matter how many times tax cuts work for the economy, you will never agree wit them. It would just give the people too much control over their own lives, and, to liberals, freedom is very dangerous...
@aaasssfffdddiii Wrong again! Ahaha I enjoy this so much. You cant prove to me that tax cuts have worked in the past, so why should I agree? And for a "home of the free" I would say freedom is maybe a...right? And besides, as J.S Mills has stated, it is foolish to ignore any voice, as to ignore/censor them is to accept your system as perfect; which is why conservatives are doomed to failure. No system is perfect.
@Stewiethebig Capitalism is pretty damn close to perfect, although nothing is perfect (short of God and Jesus). I can't prove anything completely. But I have pretty good evidence. Every major tax cut has produced major growth in the economy. Look at the tax cuts of: 1964, 1981, 1986, 2001, and 2003. All of these tax cuts successfully produced strong economic growth. On the other hand, tax hikes in 1968, 1990, and 1993 all led to a slower economy...
@aaasssfffdddiii Well, I appreciate your actually using numbers and admitting that you cannot prove it. I will look into that, but still other factors play in ex: the world was booming in the 60s, not just because of tax cuts. And no, capitalism is full of massive holes. Don't get me wrong: socialism is retarded, but capitalism is not too much better. And of course...you are religious. The fun never stops. Read the Bible, God and God Jr. make more than one mistake.
@Stewiethebig Reagan cut taxes and the economy grew 32% under him. That is 22% per person. Median Personal Income grew by 20%. Real Median Household Income grew by 12%. Inflation was chopped by 65%, and interest was was choppEd by 58%. People at the bottom gaine as well. Poverty was reduced from 14% to 12.8%. The mean income of the bottom 20% of households grew by 12%. Everyone gained. Despite the tax cuts, real federal revenues grew by 19% under Reagan. This was a truly strong economy.
@gr8z0mbiejesus He didn't really raise taxes. He got rid of tax loopholes, tax evasion, and deductions. What matters is tax rates, high tax rates discourage work, investment, and risk taking. The top marginal tax rate went from 70%-28%. The only way he raised taxes was by getting rid of loopholes and deduction, which don't help the economy.
@aaasssfffdddiii Alright! I have gone over multiple factors, and come to the conclusion that arguments will differ based on political ideologies, however you have solid point: tax cuts DO stimulate economy; mind you...it takes a long time. There are STILL too many other factors that differ this generation from any of those that you referenced to say that they simply "the way to go", and I still stand by my point
@Stewiethebig I agree. Tax cuts stimulate the economy because they provide an incentive to work, save, and invest more. Furthermore, they allow individuals to accumulate enough wealth to fund new ventures. They may not work immediatley, but they do work fairly quickly. Tax cuts are a good long and short term policy.
@Stewiethebig No, people respond to incentives relatively quickly. In 2003, the economy started expanding right after the tax cuts. Same for 1997, 1981, 1986, 1964 etc. People respond to incentives quickly. As soon as tax cuts pass, people start investing, working, and risk taking more. Tax cuts are exactly what we need right now. What does not help the economy ever is spending. That just moves resources from the productive private sector to the les efficient public sector.
@aaasssfffdddiii Your reasoning is sound, albeit false. No plan like that works that fast; simply put, the money needs time to work its way back into the system; simply put, it CANNOT work that fast. I also checked with my professor on this one. I'd love to agree with you, but then we would both be wrong.
@Stewiethebig Just because your proffessor says it, doestn make it true. He/she is probably very liberal. Proffessors tend to be, this is because they have no expierience in the real world. Everything is hypothetical to them. You never explained how my reasoning is false. Please do...
@aaasssfffdddiii When a PhD professor in political science says something, everyone in politics takes it into consideration. The fact that she gave tax cuts credit shows that she is NOT liberal. I would say that YOU have no experience in the real world. And in fact you are wrong again; I did explain. The money takes to be saved, re-invested to produce greater profit to begin the cycle anew. That is why it can take a long time to get any considerable growth.
@Stewiethebig Well, I actually work in the real world. I'm not going to disclose my career choice. People immediatley respond to incentives. If someones tax rate goes from 70% to 28%, then they are going to work and invest more immediatley. More businesses will immediatley enter the market. Tax cuts do work immediatley.
@aaasssfffdddiii You see, any professor, with their hypothesis' and theories have time, resources and most of all incentive to actually learn more about how the way things work in the political world. To try and compare yourself to that is ludicrous. And maybe they begin to WORK immediately, but they do not show results until much later. Bear in mind, that in a recession, people are stupid with their money. So even if tax cuts work, to keep/have them in this kind of economy is stupid
@Stewiethebig We obviously won't agree on anything. You don't think people deserve to keep their money because the are "stupid with their money". Maybe to you... Buts thats not yours or the governments money. That is their money.
@aaasssfffdddiii True. There is something I know about humanity in general. A person can be smart, responsible, insightful, ideal. PEOPLE thought, are foolish, impulsive, fearful and suggestible. In these recessions, we often make the wrong decisions with our money. I am not saying I know the right answer to our economic problems, all I can say is people are suffering, and that national debt of yours is not going to pay itself. Something a little bit faster is needed
@Stewiethebig Wait, so the government should take peoples money because they make the wrong decisions with their money??? I disagree. People are not dumb with their own money. It is government that is dumb witht the peoples money. THe government needs to immediatley cut spending substantially. That is the way we will get to fiscal sanity.
@aaasssfffdddiii Don't put words into my mouth. I never said the government should take everyones money, just that people ARE stupid with their money; and they ARE.
Sometimes I think you americans get a hard on listening to yourselves; "Its my decision, my money, my freedom, mine mine mine mine" Fiscal responsibility is a myth. The freedom you are so proud of and seek to protect is the biggest farce of all, because in order to keep yourselves safe, you limit your own freedoms.
@Stewiethebig Well, we Americans believe in personal freedom. It is my money. I worked for it and it is mine. You wouldnt understand, its a freedom thing. If high taxes are so great, why do countries with high taxes have much worse economies than America? How do we limit our own freedoms??? you dont make much sense...
@aaasssfffdddiii your personal freedom is a lie. So long as there is a line drawn between the weak and the strong, people will sacrifice freedom to exploit that line. I daresay I understand better than you ever will. And you cannot show that all other countries on Earth are worse of than the US of A. Can you be homosexual in america without any fear of persecution? Can you keep all the illegal aliens out without discriminating against legal ones?
@Stewiethebig Yes, you can be a homosexual in America without fear of discrimination. I don't where you heard otherwise. Personal freedom is not a lie. As long as our government protects our rights to life, liberty, and property. we have freedom. As long as government does not overstepp its bounds, as it has under Obama, we will have freedom...
@aaasssfffdddiii Oh come now, do not be a fool. Every redneck and bible thumper in there are ready to kill them. Power corrupts. Governments, churches, soldiers, armies...all have power. Corruption will always exist. And think about it, Obama tried to protect that "right to life" with healthcare and middle class tax cuts. Neither you, nor I will ever know true freedom, and you know what? That scares you. That scares the pathetic american dream schematic you have in your head.
@Stewiethebig No, that was wrong on so many levels. Nobody is ready to kill homosexuals. There was a homosexual who killed himself recently, and that was a HUGE deal. Homosexuals are not getting killed in America. Corruption will always exist. Therefore, no government should have so much power that it can rule our lives. Obama's health care will lead to the horrible treatment that people get in other countries. And, there were no middle class tax cuts, that is a lie.
@aaasssfffdddiii Obama tried to compromise with the GOP for middle class tax cuts. Look it up. Homosexuals who cant deal with the cruelty and intolerance they face kill themselves. If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death (Leviticus 20:13). You do not seem to understand, anything. I live in Canada, we have healthcare, we are treated fine.
@Stewiethebig When did Obama try to compromise with the GOP on middle class tax cuts? This never happened... One homosexual killed himself a few months ago and it is a huge deal. I'm not a stupid American. I simply am for what works. Capitalism works. It has alwyas worked. Socialism always fails. These are objective facts, not opinions.
@aaasssfffdddiii When the GOP took control of the house...Obama attempted to compromise. I know this, for a fact. Look it up, like I did for your data.
Tell that to the Chinese. They are currently kicking all our asses.
People die, murder happens. And ONE suicide? Do not be a fool. hundreds die by their own hand because they cant take the pressure of expectations the world has of them. I am guessing you ignored the quote I put up
@Stewiethebig Yes, I saw the quote. Why is it relevant to our conversation? You just say that Obama tried to compromise. I actually live in America. He didn't try to compromise on anything. He was forced to in the end, but he tried not to. You
@aaasssfffdddiii Yea, I have friends who live in America and who work in the military, not only that, but we pay close attention to your economy as it effects our own. Not only that but I am taking a class on political sciences. He tried to reach a compromise with the GOP for tax cuts; they want tax cuts for everyone, and Obama only wants it for the middle class. It happened. I know that it happened. I read 4 articles and read a speech about it.
@Stewiethebig Well, that didn't exactly happen. Taxes were going up for everyone next year. He wanted to just raise taxes on the wealthy, and the GOP wanted to make sure nobody got a tax icnrease. Nobody was going to get a tax cut. In the end, he was forced to compromise. But he was very rude, he called the GOP hostage takers on middle class. Ironically, he was the hostage taker for wanting to play class warfare.
@aaasssfffdddiii Cobvenient that NOW it happened. He is not raising taxes on everyone, merely moving the tax cut to the middle class. So yes, the middle class was getting the tax cut. The GOP ARE hostage takers on the middle class. They are obstructionist pigs, they've done nothing but directly try to oppose everything he has tried to implement, even with the idea of healthcare he ASKED THEM to create. I live in another country and even I know that
@Stewiethebig No, nobody was ever going to get a tax cut. Taxes were going up It was Obama who held the middle class hostage so he could play class warfare. The Republicans know that you can't raise taxes on small business in a recession. Yes, they opposed the socialization of health care. You know, they are opposing his destructive socialist agenda. I'm glad they are. I vote for Republicans so they will stop the Democrats from getting their destructive agenda...
More than 50 % want taxes raised on the wealthy - not that much - just the level they were under the Clinton administration -THAT is much more fair than leaving the tax rate on the wealthy LOW ! And it wasn't "socialization" of the health care industry that happened, not even NATIONALIZATION - the insurance companies nw stand between DOCTORS and PATIENTS less than they used to and more people have health car now in the us - yeah, terrible huh?
@Claronium780 35% is not low. It is a little bit more reasonable. And it is not fair to kill jobs that would help the poor just to satisfy the envy of congressional liberals. Well, our health care quality will also go down the toilet. Just like it has in every other country with socialized medicine. Now, the government willl stand between the doctor and patient. I would rahter have efficient private insurers than the government any day.
@aaasssfffdddiii Calling health care socialist, calling the Republican party socialist. Now you're starting to lose your appeal :( you are beginning to sound like most of the retards in the southern states say. Its degrading to yourself truly, and quite painful to expereince second hand, albeit amusing none the less.
Still sticking to your capitalism is success, socialism is the work of satan. You cannot see that there is good in BOTH.
@Stewiethebig Wow, I didn't know the orginal founding fathers wanted a giant government. Come to think of it, that is exactly what they fought against. But, according to you, he is fulfilling their wishes. I never said the Republican Party was socialist??? The Health Care bill is socialist. There is not good in both capitalism and socialism. Capitalism is all good, while socialism is all bad. Pure capitalism works better than mixed capitalism. This is fact, not opinion.
@aaasssfffdddiii American WAS part socialist for a very long time, until many presidents used propoganda to make anything vaguely communist seem like the devil. The US was meant to be a perfect state by means of talking working measures from both. And you contradict yourself. If Healthcare is good...and you say Healthcare is socialist, and that socialism is bad. There is an error in there. Pure capitalism is the perfect way to tak a shit on the rights of human beings. THAT is fact.
@Stewiethebig I said the the healch care bill was socialist. It is not a fact. Pure capitalism is the way to raise standards of living for everyone. Hong Kong has the closest to pure capitalism of anywhere on earth. THey see rapid growth and rapidly rising standards of living. America is also fairly capitalist, and we see very high standards of living. France, on the other hand, has a very low standard of living.
@aaasssfffdddiii Now that is some grade A horse shit. Europe has some of the highest standings of living on the planet. You are a fool to think otherwise, with your high unemployment rate and your impressive crime rate(rape, murder, robery, drugs); I mean SURELY being a society based on money has no imperfections whatsoever. And how come Canada is prosperous, or France being prosperous, or Germany, Czech-republic, Spain...all of those are prosperous
@Stewiethebig France and Spain are prosperous??? Compared to what?? Maybe Venezuala. However, compared to America, Hong Kong, or any other capitalist country. France and Spain are WAY BEHIND. You are right about Canada. Other than health care they do pretty well, but they are capitalist. Heritage ranked them ahead of us in terms of economic freedom. That is why they are almost as prosperous as us.
@Stewiethebig No, I havent been to Germany or the Czech, although I have been in a German airport before. However, France and Spain were more than enough to show the "success" of social democracy.
Stu Varney says american people are for the Bush tax cuts but his own poll actually shows they don´t. That guy is a Fucking joke.
IQR77 1 month ago
Unearned income - tax it
ianhowe007 2 months ago
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@zippyweinstein well it's a lot easier to coordinate 0.1% of the population than it is to coordinate 99% of the population. I think Occupy Wall St. is a beginning, but only a beginning. It's a good beginning. People need to hear the message and realize that we have POWER in number and under the law and founding ideals of this country. The MAJORITY SHOULD ALWAYS WIN.
dalecampbl4 2 months ago
@zippyweinstein well it's a lot easier to coordinate 0.1% of the population than it is to coordinate 99% of the population. I think Occupy Wall St. is a beginning, but only a beginning. It's a good beginning. People need to hear the message and realize that we have POWER in number and under the law and founding ideals of this country. The MAJORITY SHOULD ALWAYS WIN.
dalecampbl4 2 months ago
@zippyweinstein And now they're trying to get rid of that! I say fuck 'em.
TheWhiteShadow42 2 months ago
Seriously, what the hell? Tax cuts for everyone while you have a huge deficit: only brings more deficit you idiots! Tax cuts for the rich only: Same result you idiots! No more tax cuts, meaning the rich has to pay just as much as the rest in % of their income: Since that would mean a lot MORE income for the country, maybe you can also finally start paying off some of that deficit then!
Sanquinity 2 months ago
@zippyweinstein America never was a full democracy but rather a republic. Even so that has long passed as well, and comes closer to a police state now. If this keeps on going, it might even shift into a full on 'dictatorship of the rich' within 5 years. Where, as the name implies, the rich decide everything and the rest are just screwed.
Sanquinity 2 months ago
This country is now a CORPORATE OLIGARCHY.
TBird4490 2 months ago
Yes
mickmon 3 months ago
shit yeah they said that. all those anchors are worried they would get taxed more then they might have to stop pissing shit tons of money away on fuck off time and start living like us poor folk.
k0rps3gynd3r 4 months ago
@zippyweinstein you are forgetting that conservatives get brainwashed by people like rush, glenn, and everyone at fox news
smdbcauseyoucan 4 months ago
Great video. This further proves that Fox news (esp. the cable channel) isn't trustworthy. Even MSNBC does a better job of keeping their facts straight. There are better sources for conservative minds, but it's slim picking these days I'm afraid. Maybe you cons should pay your local PBS stations some money. Seriously. I know I do, even with my tight budget.
DrTaz 4 months ago
@zippyweinstein That's why I watch TYT
intercipio 5 months ago 4
I am sorry this is all absurd. Tax is always pointing a gun at someones head and taking their money/debt receipts. The issue isnt that rich people dont pay their fair share. The issue is that the government is in place for thier benifit. People complain about corporatism taking over the country but dont realize that it is only possible because the government protects them from us. Also raising taxes on corporations is only raising taxes on us because they are legally obliged to pass it on to us.
BaakPon 5 months ago
People say limitless Freedom is the foundation of a full functioning democracy Wrong.
If I punched someone in the face I'd get a fine, and that's just if I punched one person, yet these guys in the news punch hundreds of thousands of Americans in the face every single hour of every single day and no one fines them or ship them off to jail.
Until people are responsible for their words, Ignorance will spread like the freaking plague and will be the foundation of our democracy. Wait..too late.
dreamEternal 5 months ago
I'm with @franzfarmir, you're completely awesome @LiberalViewer. But as for the questions, it is a FAKE news station, or "news" station flooding the media with bullshit propaganda.... Intent on causing confusing by leaving out facts, details, or arguments that ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE.
JTurner427 6 months ago
hey i love your voice and tone (and of course the content). keep up the good fight.
franzfaramir 7 months ago
They will spend money to hire only if it looks like a better investment than all of the other options out there. If i were rich and got extra money from tax cuts, I would just invest it or hire low cost labor in china. Im not gonna hire americans just because the govt game me more money back.
kesayo 7 months ago
People dont create jobs simply because they have money
kesayo 7 months ago 2
ATTENTION! ALL FOX NEWS EMPLOYEES! Please read this memo and shred it IMMEDIATELY after reading! Our Leader, Mr. Rupert Murdoch, has recently been exposed in London for illegal phone hacking. He is about to lose our FN & FBN broadcasting licenses based on the “character” clause 47USC308, Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. In other words, The jig is up people! Start shredding internal emails and updating your resumes NOW! God help us when the truth comes out! I’m off to the Cayman Islands, C ya!
thenewmike2012 7 months ago
Youre absolutely crazy (bachman4president)...the rich do NOT create jobs...DEMAND creates jobs. If there is demand and some rich guy doesnt want to meet it by hiring more people? screw him... someone else will start a business and take his place...thats a TRUE free market system.
DungbeetleXL5000 7 months ago
The rich keep you libs out of the gutter by giving you jobs. You're all just jealous.
bachmann4president 7 months ago
The one thing I keep trying to figure out: If the wealthiest have more money they will create more jobs. Well tax cuts or not the wealthiest are always making more money but the job growth is nil.
When fucking congressman Boner got on and called the wealthiest the "job creators" and how we can't raise taxes on the "job creators" I laughed my ass off.
snakeguy76 8 months ago
Fox News - 44 is higher than 36. 44 is also higher than 14. So if 44% in favor of keeping the cuts for everyone is a high enough number to label it the majority than that of the 50% in favor of keeping the cuts if only under 250,000 a year or just letting them expire all together than that means 44 is greater than 50.
The "less equals more" ploy.
i4g0tsMyNAmE 8 months ago
Republicans are middle class. Yeah were fucked
ianhowe007 8 months ago
QUESTION: If the Dems keep crying that the GOP is all for the Rich, then why are the Richest Americans, Democrates and Not Republicans??? Hollywood, Oprah, Soros, Gates, Rockefellers. The Republicans are primarily middle class Americans NOT the Rich!!!
DerektheDuctTape 9 months ago
@DerektheDuctTape ANSWER: Net Worth of Congressional Republicans:
Darrell Issa- $303,575,011 (Richest man in Congress)
Vernon Buchanan- $148,373,160
James Risch- $109,034,052
Gary Miller- $51,833,526
Bob Corker- $50,717,522
Diane Black- $49,409,519
Rodney Frelinghuyson- $43,797,589
But those are just facts and numbers, which I'm sure you aren't interested in anyway
danlee89KS 8 months ago
@DerektheDuctTape Maybe hollywood celebrities, but the only rich people in the world aren't famous people. CEO's of corporations are by in large in bed with the republicans. If rich people supported democrats so much, then why don't they get practically all of their campaign contributions from corporations, like the republicans do? Get your facts straight buddy.
moreoreos123 8 months ago
The reason the corporations and banks are not putting money into the system is because they want Obama out of office. Watch what I say. If Obama loses re-election, that is when the corporations and banks will put money back into the system. They feel that Obama is sticking his nose in their business. You know what, they are right. He should because the corporations and especially the banks DON'T PRATICE fair equality for people which is why they need to be regulated....regulated....regulated
WilliamHCarney 9 months ago
@WilliamHCarney Gee. Looks like someone is listening to Fox Fiction for his opinions.
Why bother posting your horseshit? If anyone is interested they can just tune into GOP-TV (Fox) and get the bullshit fresh from the horses ass.
megarational 8 months ago
Someone should send Fox News a calculator, the numbers in that poll add up to 94, or at best 97. Bullshit polls on Fox News shouldn't surprise anyone, you'd think somebody would check their math.
Killur10 9 months ago
@Killur10 Hence, the studies that showed Fox viewers are the MOST MISINFORMED viewers in television. People who get their news from the Daily Show are better informed.
demmmmm1 8 months ago in playlist Politics XII
Nah, the worst poll spin is Frank Luntz's focus group saying that Hermain Cain won the May 5th republican debates. LV, do a vid on that!
DrinkingWithTim 10 months ago
Tax cuts for the rich should end. They should be paying 60%.
noobmaster31 10 months ago 3
@noobmaster31 SOSHALLIZUM!!!!!111
leetbarker 9 months ago
@leetbarker Happiest people in the world: the DANES. Danish tax rates: 60-90% (90% in certain parts). Richest major economy GDP per capita (PPP): Norway. 60% taxes. Socialism FTW.
coinpeace 9 months ago
@coinpeace as far as i know, Us in denmark dont pay that much tax. 44-60% i believe. But we are happy. And we dont have a socialist government, we have a liberal conservative government.
xpedebx1 9 months ago
@xpedebx1 Fully paid education, medicare, child care, shorter work weeks, more holidays, ect... In the US we consider that socialism but I guess from a European viewpoint that's normal.. I'm in favor for your style of government vs. capitalist government which is why I plan to move to Europe one day but I've been told by my friends parent who was born and raised in Sweden (might have been a skewed fact towards Denmark) who told me there are certain business taxes that can be up to about 90%..
coinpeace 9 months ago
@coinpeace Yeah. That figure is skewed. If Republicans maintain control of the House, get control of the Senate, and the White House, I’m off to Canada. Just won’t be able to take it. Sweden sounds good, too.
demmmmm1 8 months ago in playlist Politics XII
@demmmmm1 I just wish I can leave this country. I would need 1) a passport, 2) a visa to another country and 3) a job in said country.
VanMan1 8 months ago
That deficit graphic showing the effect the Bush-era tax cuts have on our long-term budget problem is particularly relevant now that this debate is beginning to heat up. It's too bad that it never showed up in Ryan's proposal.
kathades 10 months ago
Let the damn cuts expire. We can't afford them anymore and close the loopholes that allows the folks who can afford the team of attorney's and accountants to avoid paying most of the taxes they're supposed to be paying.
brcjacks 10 months ago
fox became a joke
SuperAlexrios 10 months ago
Dude your voice bores me but megan kelly worst reporter EVER.
Kaldhore 11 months ago
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BabiaaJacquiia426 11 months ago
Um... the percentage doesn't add up to 100%
vinniechan 11 months ago
@vinniechan It wouldn't be the first time they make arithmetic "mistakes" either. I've seen one of their polls that added to 120%.
CoonAndFriends2 11 months ago
The tax system is not fair. The top one percent of income earners pay 40% of the taxes collected in the country. The bottom 12% of income earners only pay 3% of the taxes.
harbar3000 11 months ago
The top 2% of America is better represented in government than the bottom 98%
danlee89KS 1 year ago 48
@danlee89KS Exactly. That's why we need less government involvement and spending. We need more individual freedom. We need free markets, not crony capitalism/corporatism. That's how the power returns to the people. More central planning is exactly what the top 2% want. They don't want to have to answer to the power of individuals. They want the Fed, the deficit, the regulation, all of it. They benefit, and we all lose, and it's exactly because of what you say.
qwertypipe 10 months ago
@danlee89KS thats what happened in France, and then the had their heads chopped of in a guillotine.
VampireAtheist 2 months ago
@VampireAtheist off*
VampireAtheist 2 months ago
@danlee89KS try top 0.5% buddy
dalecampbl4 2 months ago
WTF is UP with the stupid ass Commercials!
bello770 1 year ago
@bs070387 Let me also say that you are closed minded. I pride myself on using statistics and intellectual arguments to support my conservative viewpoints. Despite this you say "It's pretty much spoon-fed, but I'll assume your wife-cousin was yelling at your inbred children and you couldn't hear the nice man speak. I may also assume that your gay."
Obviously, you are not very intelligent. Instead of discussing facts, you would rather say this sort of thing.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@bs070387 What do you mean?
Obviously, correlation does not equal causation. However, we can look at trends. Obviously, the fact that bigger government and higher taxes always mean slower growth and lower standards of living, wherever they are tried, could be correlation. However, overwhelming evidence shows that larger government hurts an economy substantially. This could all be coincidence. At some point, enough correlation does equal some causation.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@timpostor -- yes, I think abolishing the iRS is a golden idea for more reasons than I have room to list here. Let the police enforce whatever needs to be, and if not them the federal marshals... even the national guard is a better idea -- the IRS shouldn't be enforcing anymore than the DEA should be, but note I said sales tax only, so basically that's enforced at the level of transactions (no individual forms, etc.).
Hardryv 1 year ago
Fox News FTW.
YouHateGasgara 1 year ago
Bias begs the question: when you spend over budget you cannot change the numbers, the the govt. can and does. As one who saw taxes paid before and after the devaluation of the dollar, it saved the Congress from raising the tax rate (and facing the music) by way of our 'progressive' tax structure -- my house doubled in value too and was taxed accordingly as well as my wages. If you can't remember yesterday, don't bother thinking about tomorrow.
Liberalviewer, reality is about to bite.
Dexter6O 1 year ago
Very typical for the fox News snake oil salesmen. I'm amazed that things have become so screwed...and people are eating it up. My mom is a big fox news watcher, and they prey upon older folks, and their fears so incredibly well. Attempting to explain what they do, does no good. It's sad, really.
dannon2010 1 year ago
I watch Fox News a lot....
I see a ton of bias every time.
It's easy to forget not everyone possesses my critical thinking skill, and so the spin may not be as obvious to them.
What gets to me is that no matter where I find my news, there is some sort of bullshit injected.
The difference with Fox is that it's so well coordinated.
MOPEDBRAD 1 year ago
you know how the FDA has certain standards that products must meet to be stamped with the label organic?
I think there should be some sort of stamp of approval for factual news, for the news consumers.
ljp7c4 1 year ago
poll = 94% not 100%
VoteObamaBiden08 1 year ago
@VoteObamaBiden08 sampling error
Zaviex 1 year ago
@LiberalViewer I like your videos, but sometimes it's hard to listen to someone who speaks almost entirely in run-on sentences connected by awkward pauses and "ands" and "buts" and "becauses" and "ors."
suumr 1 year ago
@suumr coulda just said 'conjunctions'....
carlo88moe 1 year ago
Bottom line is why do we even have a federal tax at all? we got it when the country needed to pay for the second world war, State tax yes i understand it i have no problem paying that we need good roads, schools, and aid for the poor, that i can see but why a federal tax it was to go away after the war was paid for but we still have it...
BGPOND30 1 year ago
@BGPOND30 That's why you will never see the WAR goes away... make sense now...???
MindEFX 1 year ago
Is that why we have much of China still living under US$ 1.20 a day despite a "socialist market economy" Is that why America's healthcare is one of the worst in the First World? Is that why we still have child labor or unsafe working conditions in factories? Is that why we boom and bust cycles?
Yeah, capitalism is SO great.
Cookaloka 1 year ago
heres the myths about Obama - hes weak- funny both iraq and afghanistan recieved surges and Obama has had more drone attacks in 2 years than bushs post 9-11- Second Obama has already deported more illegals than bush did in 8-third the Bush family had direct dealings with the bin laden family yet Obamas somehow the "secret muslim?" does this mean i love Obama no- im just trying to prove that alot of these claims against him are false- no party could have fixed this fucked up economy
salvadory 1 year ago
LMAO... Redistributing the wealth does not mean that taking away from the RICH MFer and give it to the POOR... It means that the RICH MFer should pay their fair shares instead off trying to steal from the POOR... I wish I could come all over Megyn's brain.. too bad she ain't got one... LMAOOOOOO
MindEFX 1 year ago
heres the facts- the rich have gotten richer - the middle class has shrunk- workers wages with inflation have flatlined or decreased- the poor have grown poorer- class warfare- as Warren Buffet(billionaire) said" there is class warfare and my side are winning it!"" The top 5% have increased their wealth 38% since the 80s- while the middle class actually saw a 2% decrease in wealth gain the same period!
salvadory 1 year ago
It's not "raising taxes on the rich" - it's putting them back to the levels they ALWAYS were (or lower) since the Clinton administration and before !
Claronium780 1 year ago
@Claronium780 It IS raising taxes. Taxes were going to be higher next year than they were this year. That is the definition of a tax increase. To say that this is not a tax increase is just ridiculous. You also forget that Obamacare includes numerous new taxes, this means that taxes will be much higher than they were under Clinton.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@mmac382 actually "traditional" marriage was arranged by your parents to increase their lands..... also the bible defines shrimp and clothing of more than one fabric as just as "evil" as homosexuality...bible-beaters dont boycott bubba gump, cuz those things dont reinforce their bigotry... and i DEFY u to name a rep. who is ok with abortion
gr8z0mbiejesus 1 year ago
As an Australian I would like to apologize for Rupert Murdoch and you have my permission to string the mongrel dog up. He is a real bad egg.
movieklump 1 year ago
My parents and my wife's parents are very wealthy . My parents are Dems and her's are Repubs but my kids only want to spend time with their Repub grandparents .... why ?
hanksnow82 1 year ago
@hanksnow82
hmmm....i wonder why the republicans appeal more to children...
1995e34 1 year ago
Wow, this is bull. The Bush Tax Cuts are only 14% of the deficits. Actually, not even that. They created growth which partially paid for them. So, in the end, they cost nearly nothing. The real problem is Obama's spending and the entitlements that are not reformed.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii dude...a tax cut on the top 1% could produce a much as 40 billion dollars.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig I agree. Cutting taxes on risktaking, investment, and work produces alot of growth...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii You forgot the huge benefit program he has put in place to support new and existing entrepreneurs. The rich can grow just fine without a tax cut, hell, many have already rebounded from this whole shit storm.
Oh, and taxing the shit out of the middle class while the rich get money off? Isn't kind of...REALLY stupid to have those denied essentials of life while the rich get a nice big tax exemption to put in that extra solid gold pool table?
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig R u joking? Obama has done all he can to hurt business. BTW, the middle class got a bigget tax cut than the rich. And we arent giving the rich money, we are stealing less of what is already theirs...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii See now, I am taking a political science class, and even my professor, possessing a doctorate in political sciences did not ask me for a source when I said what I just told you in front of the entire class. It was a project on US politics that I easily put 40 hours of study and research into. I probably know more about your politics than you ever have.
the rich can afford it. Why take less from the rich, and more from people who CANT afford it?
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig I'm sure he wouldn't ask you for a source, proffessors are notoriusly liberal. You're ideas fit perfectly into his world view, he really isnt interested in facts. If he was, he wouldve asked you for a source. Just because the rich can afford a tax hike does not make this good policy. The rich are the entrepeuners, businesspeople, and investors who keep our economy moving. Taking money from them hurts everyone else...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii No, she only asked for sources she did not already know. And yes, she is interested in facts. You aren't interested in facts. And yes actually, it does make a better policy if those you tax can afford it. They will still continue to grow. your argument is baseless and irrelevant
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig The rich are key to economic growth. They are the ones running the businesses, making the investments, and taking the risks. They are key to any economy debate. Raising taxes on the rich is terrible economic policy...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii no it isnt... they SAVE almost all the money they make, everyone else SPEND more than they save....the people most affected by the increases on the rich would be the wall street assholes that got us here in the first place, they dont even deserve to have that money, let alone get tax breaks on it.
gr8z0mbiejesus 1 year ago
@gr8z0mbiejesus exactly
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@gr8z0mbiejesus We need people to invest and save to get our economy moving, it isnt all abut spending...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@gr8z0mbiejesus Please take an economics course, you obiously know nothing about economics...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii yes, ur right... thats why trickle down economics has worked so splendidly the last 10 years, lets do it more!!!! The only 'trickling' is the super-rich pissing on the rest of us. the best way to change course and get out of this mess is to do exactly what got us here, thatll work. if tax cuts on the rich created jobs, we wouldnt have 10% unemployment
gr8z0mbiejesus 1 year ago
@gr8z0mbiejesus Actually, Obama's keynesianism can be blamed for the 10% unemployment. The 2003 tax cuts sparked growth in the economy fro 4 years. We had 52 consecutive months of Job Growth, an alltime record. Bush also oversaw faster productivity growth than clinton, at 2.6% vs 2% for Clinton, and an average unemployment rate of 5.3%. I guess they did work pretty well....
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii All you can do is repeat yourself, because you have nothing else. Every working and consumer helps the economy, not just the rich, and the rich will still grow.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig I know, but the rich play an important role as investors and jo creators...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii You have idea what the hell you are talking about. Stop wasting my time
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig I have been right about everything...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii thats why you have facts?
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig exactly...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii you havent presented any facts. Just whims. You trolls are supposed to be GOOD at arguing. I am disapointed.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Thats such a clever comeback...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Isnt it? I was rather proud of it. I am glad that you agree
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Those were economic facts, Bush had a pretty good record, ahh the past...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii You did not present facts. You brought forward conjecture
Bush was a perfect example of the importance of condom use. Mixing church and state and a stupid war. Every single hick in the universe voted for him. Bush also did not have to clean up after his own war, or any of his own fuck ups...remember the mortgage problem? Why don't you just say Richard Nixon was a good president
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Actually, Bush had nothing to do with the mortgage mess. He actually inherited a severe recession from Clinton. Clinton's policies on Fannie and Freddie has something to do with the 2008 mortgage crash. Also, Bush had to deal with 9/11. Despite these setbacks, Bush had a strong economic record....
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii
YOU BRAIN WASHED PUNK ASS CRAKER...I HATE IGNORANT WHITE PEOPLE
ATLVET 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii
the mortgage mess was fostered by bush deregulation. it is currently popular myth that barnie frank and clinton were behind it.
youre full of shit. read a book.
1995e34 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii I took a little bit of time responding to this one. I had to figure out first hand that you are incorrect. Clinton may have created the problem, but Bush added fuel to the fire. That is a fact. Some say he simply did not even READ the documents he was signing. You once again prove your own inadequacy. Please, by all means, dig yourself deeper
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig As I said, there was no Bush deregulation. Heres what did happen under Bush, a record 52 consecutive months of job growth, an average unemployment rate of 5.3%, 2.6% average annual productivity growth (faster than Clinton and Reagan), a continuing rise in standards of living, and many new technologies that have helped Americans lives. This is because of Bush's progrowth tax cuts and business policy. There was no deregulation to speak of...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii I did not mention deregulation...Well, still, you are wrong. It may not have been major, but deregulation happened. Bush was not facing a recession, least of all like the one we are facing today, and the one in Iraq actually helped stimulate the economy for a little while(around 6 months). Basically speaking...aside from 9/11 Bush had no other shit on his plate. To say that the same situations apply is simply close minded and idiotic. Still feel like sinking lower?
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Wat hurts the economy... it doesnt help it.. Bush actually inherited a recession from Clinton... and 9/11's a big deal... What deregulation? Name a deregulation bill that Bush signed???? You can't because he didn't... It was the 2003 tax cuts that caused the growth from 2003-2007..
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Dude...there WAS deregulation, but it was so insignificant that it really did not change anything. Prove to me that it was specifically the tax cuts that promoted growth, and not ANYTHING else that was going on. Keep going man, I don't even need political science to argue with you. Try logic
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Well, the tax cuts were passed in May 2003, the unemployment rate starting going down in June 2003. Right after they were passed, we had 52 consecutive months of Job Growth... What was the deregulation???
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii There are simply to many variables to consider for you to say that this one changes is a perfect correlation to unemployment rate. Any science teacher will tell you: correlation does not equal causation. That is common sense. In other words, you cannot claim that the tax cuts were in fact what cause unemployment rates to drop. Do you have deregulation tourettes? I must say, having your ass kicked by a Canadian must be frustrating.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Ok, GDP and income growth was also much stronger after the tax cut. The same happened after the 1997, 1986, 1981, and 1964 tax cuts, they all had strong economic growth afterwards...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Too many variables to consider. You do not know it was the tax cut that did that. There are far too many confounds in the equation. Logic defeats you. Give up troll, I can do this all week
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig How did logic defeat me? You have no facts... it was the tax cut that caused the growth.... it is not that complicate...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii It is actually. Because you arent listening. You cannot prove that it was the tax cut. You simply cant. They're are too many other things to consider. When you make such a weak-ass argument, I dont need facts.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Exactly, you don't need facts to back up your argument. You just don't care about them.. No matter how many times tax cuts work for the economy, you will never agree wit them. It would just give the people too much control over their own lives, and, to liberals, freedom is very dangerous...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Wrong again! Ahaha I enjoy this so much. You cant prove to me that tax cuts have worked in the past, so why should I agree? And for a "home of the free" I would say freedom is maybe a...right? And besides, as J.S Mills has stated, it is foolish to ignore any voice, as to ignore/censor them is to accept your system as perfect; which is why conservatives are doomed to failure. No system is perfect.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Capitalism is pretty damn close to perfect, although nothing is perfect (short of God and Jesus). I can't prove anything completely. But I have pretty good evidence. Every major tax cut has produced major growth in the economy. Look at the tax cuts of: 1964, 1981, 1986, 2001, and 2003. All of these tax cuts successfully produced strong economic growth. On the other hand, tax hikes in 1968, 1990, and 1993 all led to a slower economy...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Well, I appreciate your actually using numbers and admitting that you cannot prove it. I will look into that, but still other factors play in ex: the world was booming in the 60s, not just because of tax cuts. And no, capitalism is full of massive holes. Don't get me wrong: socialism is retarded, but capitalism is not too much better. And of course...you are religious. The fun never stops. Read the Bible, God and God Jr. make more than one mistake.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Reagan cut taxes and the economy grew 32% under him. That is 22% per person. Median Personal Income grew by 20%. Real Median Household Income grew by 12%. Inflation was chopped by 65%, and interest was was choppEd by 58%. People at the bottom gaine as well. Poverty was reduced from 14% to 12.8%. The mean income of the bottom 20% of households grew by 12%. Everyone gained. Despite the tax cuts, real federal revenues grew by 19% under Reagan. This was a truly strong economy.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii hmmmm i like how reps say how reagan "cut taxes";yes he did, AFTER he increased them 11 or 12 seperate times!!!
gr8z0mbiejesus 1 year ago
@gr8z0mbiejesus He didn't really raise taxes. He got rid of tax loopholes, tax evasion, and deductions. What matters is tax rates, high tax rates discourage work, investment, and risk taking. The top marginal tax rate went from 70%-28%. The only way he raised taxes was by getting rid of loopholes and deduction, which don't help the economy.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig All of those numbers are inflation-adjusted...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Alright! I have gone over multiple factors, and come to the conclusion that arguments will differ based on political ideologies, however you have solid point: tax cuts DO stimulate economy; mind you...it takes a long time. There are STILL too many other factors that differ this generation from any of those that you referenced to say that they simply "the way to go", and I still stand by my point
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig I agree. Tax cuts stimulate the economy because they provide an incentive to work, save, and invest more. Furthermore, they allow individuals to accumulate enough wealth to fund new ventures. They may not work immediatley, but they do work fairly quickly. Tax cuts are a good long and short term policy.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii No you see...they do not work short term. They don't. They long term, and in situations like these today, it is simply not practical
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig No, people respond to incentives relatively quickly. In 2003, the economy started expanding right after the tax cuts. Same for 1997, 1981, 1986, 1964 etc. People respond to incentives quickly. As soon as tax cuts pass, people start investing, working, and risk taking more. Tax cuts are exactly what we need right now. What does not help the economy ever is spending. That just moves resources from the productive private sector to the les efficient public sector.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Your reasoning is sound, albeit false. No plan like that works that fast; simply put, the money needs time to work its way back into the system; simply put, it CANNOT work that fast. I also checked with my professor on this one. I'd love to agree with you, but then we would both be wrong.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Just because your proffessor says it, doestn make it true. He/she is probably very liberal. Proffessors tend to be, this is because they have no expierience in the real world. Everything is hypothetical to them. You never explained how my reasoning is false. Please do...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii When a PhD professor in political science says something, everyone in politics takes it into consideration. The fact that she gave tax cuts credit shows that she is NOT liberal. I would say that YOU have no experience in the real world. And in fact you are wrong again; I did explain. The money takes to be saved, re-invested to produce greater profit to begin the cycle anew. That is why it can take a long time to get any considerable growth.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Well, I actually work in the real world. I'm not going to disclose my career choice. People immediatley respond to incentives. If someones tax rate goes from 70% to 28%, then they are going to work and invest more immediatley. More businesses will immediatley enter the market. Tax cuts do work immediatley.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii You see, any professor, with their hypothesis' and theories have time, resources and most of all incentive to actually learn more about how the way things work in the political world. To try and compare yourself to that is ludicrous. And maybe they begin to WORK immediately, but they do not show results until much later. Bear in mind, that in a recession, people are stupid with their money. So even if tax cuts work, to keep/have them in this kind of economy is stupid
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig We obviously won't agree on anything. You don't think people deserve to keep their money because the are "stupid with their money". Maybe to you... Buts thats not yours or the governments money. That is their money.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii True. There is something I know about humanity in general. A person can be smart, responsible, insightful, ideal. PEOPLE thought, are foolish, impulsive, fearful and suggestible. In these recessions, we often make the wrong decisions with our money. I am not saying I know the right answer to our economic problems, all I can say is people are suffering, and that national debt of yours is not going to pay itself. Something a little bit faster is needed
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Wait, so the government should take peoples money because they make the wrong decisions with their money??? I disagree. People are not dumb with their own money. It is government that is dumb witht the peoples money. THe government needs to immediatley cut spending substantially. That is the way we will get to fiscal sanity.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Don't put words into my mouth. I never said the government should take everyones money, just that people ARE stupid with their money; and they ARE.
Sometimes I think you americans get a hard on listening to yourselves; "Its my decision, my money, my freedom, mine mine mine mine" Fiscal responsibility is a myth. The freedom you are so proud of and seek to protect is the biggest farce of all, because in order to keep yourselves safe, you limit your own freedoms.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Well, we Americans believe in personal freedom. It is my money. I worked for it and it is mine. You wouldnt understand, its a freedom thing. If high taxes are so great, why do countries with high taxes have much worse economies than America? How do we limit our own freedoms??? you dont make much sense...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii your personal freedom is a lie. So long as there is a line drawn between the weak and the strong, people will sacrifice freedom to exploit that line. I daresay I understand better than you ever will. And you cannot show that all other countries on Earth are worse of than the US of A. Can you be homosexual in america without any fear of persecution? Can you keep all the illegal aliens out without discriminating against legal ones?
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Yes, you can be a homosexual in America without fear of discrimination. I don't where you heard otherwise. Personal freedom is not a lie. As long as our government protects our rights to life, liberty, and property. we have freedom. As long as government does not overstepp its bounds, as it has under Obama, we will have freedom...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Oh come now, do not be a fool. Every redneck and bible thumper in there are ready to kill them. Power corrupts. Governments, churches, soldiers, armies...all have power. Corruption will always exist. And think about it, Obama tried to protect that "right to life" with healthcare and middle class tax cuts. Neither you, nor I will ever know true freedom, and you know what? That scares you. That scares the pathetic american dream schematic you have in your head.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig No, that was wrong on so many levels. Nobody is ready to kill homosexuals. There was a homosexual who killed himself recently, and that was a HUGE deal. Homosexuals are not getting killed in America. Corruption will always exist. Therefore, no government should have so much power that it can rule our lives. Obama's health care will lead to the horrible treatment that people get in other countries. And, there were no middle class tax cuts, that is a lie.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Obama tried to compromise with the GOP for middle class tax cuts. Look it up. Homosexuals who cant deal with the cruelty and intolerance they face kill themselves. If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death (Leviticus 20:13). You do not seem to understand, anything. I live in Canada, we have healthcare, we are treated fine.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig When did Obama try to compromise with the GOP on middle class tax cuts? This never happened... One homosexual killed himself a few months ago and it is a huge deal. I'm not a stupid American. I simply am for what works. Capitalism works. It has alwyas worked. Socialism always fails. These are objective facts, not opinions.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii When the GOP took control of the house...Obama attempted to compromise. I know this, for a fact. Look it up, like I did for your data.
Tell that to the Chinese. They are currently kicking all our asses.
People die, murder happens. And ONE suicide? Do not be a fool. hundreds die by their own hand because they cant take the pressure of expectations the world has of them. I am guessing you ignored the quote I put up
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Yes, I saw the quote. Why is it relevant to our conversation? You just say that Obama tried to compromise. I actually live in America. He didn't try to compromise on anything. He was forced to in the end, but he tried not to. You
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Yea, I have friends who live in America and who work in the military, not only that, but we pay close attention to your economy as it effects our own. Not only that but I am taking a class on political sciences. He tried to reach a compromise with the GOP for tax cuts; they want tax cuts for everyone, and Obama only wants it for the middle class. It happened. I know that it happened. I read 4 articles and read a speech about it.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Well, that didn't exactly happen. Taxes were going up for everyone next year. He wanted to just raise taxes on the wealthy, and the GOP wanted to make sure nobody got a tax icnrease. Nobody was going to get a tax cut. In the end, he was forced to compromise. But he was very rude, he called the GOP hostage takers on middle class. Ironically, he was the hostage taker for wanting to play class warfare.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Cobvenient that NOW it happened. He is not raising taxes on everyone, merely moving the tax cut to the middle class. So yes, the middle class was getting the tax cut. The GOP ARE hostage takers on the middle class. They are obstructionist pigs, they've done nothing but directly try to oppose everything he has tried to implement, even with the idea of healthcare he ASKED THEM to create. I live in another country and even I know that
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig No, nobody was ever going to get a tax cut. Taxes were going up It was Obama who held the middle class hostage so he could play class warfare. The Republicans know that you can't raise taxes on small business in a recession. Yes, they opposed the socialization of health care. You know, they are opposing his destructive socialist agenda. I'm glad they are. I vote for Republicans so they will stop the Democrats from getting their destructive agenda...
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
More than 50 % want taxes raised on the wealthy - not that much - just the level they were under the Clinton administration -THAT is much more fair than leaving the tax rate on the wealthy LOW ! And it wasn't "socialization" of the health care industry that happened, not even NATIONALIZATION - the insurance companies nw stand between DOCTORS and PATIENTS less than they used to and more people have health car now in the us - yeah, terrible huh?
Claronium780 1 year ago
@Claronium780 35% is not low. It is a little bit more reasonable. And it is not fair to kill jobs that would help the poor just to satisfy the envy of congressional liberals. Well, our health care quality will also go down the toilet. Just like it has in every other country with socialized medicine. Now, the government willl stand between the doctor and patient. I would rahter have efficient private insurers than the government any day.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Calling health care socialist, calling the Republican party socialist. Now you're starting to lose your appeal :( you are beginning to sound like most of the retards in the southern states say. Its degrading to yourself truly, and quite painful to expereince second hand, albeit amusing none the less.
Still sticking to your capitalism is success, socialism is the work of satan. You cannot see that there is good in BOTH.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Wow, I didn't know the orginal founding fathers wanted a giant government. Come to think of it, that is exactly what they fought against. But, according to you, he is fulfilling their wishes. I never said the Republican Party was socialist??? The Health Care bill is socialist. There is not good in both capitalism and socialism. Capitalism is all good, while socialism is all bad. Pure capitalism works better than mixed capitalism. This is fact, not opinion.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii American WAS part socialist for a very long time, until many presidents used propoganda to make anything vaguely communist seem like the devil. The US was meant to be a perfect state by means of talking working measures from both. And you contradict yourself. If Healthcare is good...and you say Healthcare is socialist, and that socialism is bad. There is an error in there. Pure capitalism is the perfect way to tak a shit on the rights of human beings. THAT is fact.
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig I said the the healch care bill was socialist. It is not a fact. Pure capitalism is the way to raise standards of living for everyone. Hong Kong has the closest to pure capitalism of anywhere on earth. THey see rapid growth and rapidly rising standards of living. America is also fairly capitalist, and we see very high standards of living. France, on the other hand, has a very low standard of living.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Now that is some grade A horse shit. Europe has some of the highest standings of living on the planet. You are a fool to think otherwise, with your high unemployment rate and your impressive crime rate(rape, murder, robery, drugs); I mean SURELY being a society based on money has no imperfections whatsoever. And how come Canada is prosperous, or France being prosperous, or Germany, Czech-republic, Spain...all of those are prosperous
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig France and Spain are prosperous??? Compared to what?? Maybe Venezuala. However, compared to America, Hong Kong, or any other capitalist country. France and Spain are WAY BEHIND. You are right about Canada. Other than health care they do pretty well, but they are capitalist. Heritage ranked them ahead of us in terms of economic freedom. That is why they are almost as prosperous as us.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Ever seen France? Or Spain, or any of the other countries I mentioned?
Stewiethebig 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig Actually, I have been to both Spain and France. In fact, I have visted them both recently.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago
@Stewiethebig No, I havent been to Germany or the Czech, although I have been in a German airport before. However, France and Spain were more than enough to show the "success" of social democracy.
aaasssfffdddiii 1 year ago