As far as I'm concerned, I don't "hate" flamers but being in their company makes me uncomfortable. Much the same as if I were with a str8 guy and every other word out of his word was "fu*k". Then there is the attraction issue. Regardless of whether you are str8 or gay, exaggeration is a negative quality. I'm not sure everyone "hates" flamers but if that behavior makes you uncomfortable would you take the trouble to get to know them?
P.S. I just posted a comment disagreeing with some of your points .... but I still have to say "well done" for at least taking on the issue and making a great video. Thanks.
The problem that most gays have with flamers is that flamers are putting on an act, they are not being real. Many gays (me included) want to be seen and accepted as who I am .... not for some act I'm putting on. I wouldn't act any different if I was a hetero, I would be the same person regardless of my sexual orientation. The excuse that some gays are more feminine is BS, some straight men are feminine but they don't act like fools.
P.S. St8 guys that do the opposite are just as fake.
@AllenRockwell Allen, I addressed that in the video, it stems from insecurity with ones identity combined with natural femininity, yes a lot of it is over the top. Not all "flamers" are putting on an act though,a lot of them just naturally feel comfortable expressing themselves the way they do, and we have every right to express ourselves in any way we choose, though you have every right to be biased.
Well said. Gay people unfortunately are human, and as such have all the insecurities and egos of all the others. I get discouraged with the LGBT community because we cannot seem to be united. There are so few of us. You should do a talk on Transgender folks. That is another huge prejudice within the community or how about Lesbos and Fags cannot get along. You could have a whole series....
I actually don't agree with the "LGBT" thing, I don't think transgendered should be grouped with gays, lesbians, and bisexuals, as those 3 things are types of sexuality - while being transgendered does not necessarily have anything to do with sexuality. Also I get along great with lesbians lol, I never realized they couldn't get along. :)
@Tweakerbythespeaker Again I agree with you on the issue that Transgender folks are fundamentally different from gays and lesbians. They totally are. BUT we need each other politically and emotionally & culturally even. These people are courageous and we need that energy. We have to rise above the prejudice and be a better community than the one that oppresses us! And Thank you for replying. I don't beleive that has ever happened to me before on a youtube post. I have to say I was a bit shocked.
@Tweakerbythespeaker Again I agree with you on the issue that Transgender folks are fundamentally different from gays and lesbians. They totally are. BUT we need each other politically and emotionally & culturally even. These people are courageous and we need that energy. We have to rise above the prejudice and be a better community than the one that oppresses us! And Thank you for replying. I don't beleive that has ever happened to me before on a youtube post. I have to say I was a bit shocked
@Tweakerbythespeaker Again I agree with you on the issue that Transgender folks are fundamentally different from gays and lesbians. They totally are. BUT we need each other politically and emotionally & culturally even. These people are courageous and we need that energy. We have to rise above the prejudice and be a better community than the one that oppresses us! And Thank you for replying. I don't beleive that has ever happened to me before on a youtube post. I have to say I was a bit shocked
i love the comparison to over the top masculine acting straight guys with flamers. they are the ends of the spectrum except I think with the straight guys it comes more from insecurity and they "flamers" it comes more from complete security.
Very well said, it is not often I am impressed but you broadcast your views in such a mature fashion, with such excellent points it is hard not to be impressed. It is nice to know the world has people like you! very touching, great video.
@Tweakerbythespeaker Well...I saw it in a Bulletin from a youtuber i'm suscribed to (austenwack) and that's why i'm here....you should really make more videos hehe
When I see other gays engage in this kind of harmful shit I take them to task. Gays who don't like "flamers" are cowards and self-haters. We catch enough bullshit from the straight world, do we really need our own people adding to it? They are adopting the same rhetoric non-gays use to police and limit the way we behave. Masculinity is socially constructed. There is no right or wrong way to BE A MAN. This kind of self-hate is only going to keep us back.
A good tip to help your fidgetiness is to get your fingers and rub them on your nipples as you talk. Don't question what that's for, just go with it. Trust me.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't "hate" flamers but being in their company makes me uncomfortable. Much the same as if I were with a str8 guy and every other word out of his word was "fu*k". Then there is the attraction issue. Regardless of whether you are str8 or gay, exaggeration is a negative quality. I'm not sure everyone "hates" flamers but if that behavior makes you uncomfortable would you take the trouble to get to know them?
rmetner49 1 month ago
ummm hi but IDK what is an flamer ????
Dallasprincess101 1 month ago
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Dallasprincess101 1 month ago
P.S. I just posted a comment disagreeing with some of your points .... but I still have to say "well done" for at least taking on the issue and making a great video. Thanks.
AllenRockwell 1 month ago
The problem that most gays have with flamers is that flamers are putting on an act, they are not being real. Many gays (me included) want to be seen and accepted as who I am .... not for some act I'm putting on. I wouldn't act any different if I was a hetero, I would be the same person regardless of my sexual orientation. The excuse that some gays are more feminine is BS, some straight men are feminine but they don't act like fools.
P.S. St8 guys that do the opposite are just as fake.
AllenRockwell 1 month ago
@AllenRockwell Allen, I addressed that in the video, it stems from insecurity with ones identity combined with natural femininity, yes a lot of it is over the top. Not all "flamers" are putting on an act though,a lot of them just naturally feel comfortable expressing themselves the way they do, and we have every right to express ourselves in any way we choose, though you have every right to be biased.
Tweakerbythespeaker 1 month ago
Yeyyyy Joshh :D xx Sticking up for us :) x
15Evanx 4 months ago
Extremely well said! :)
TheJakeMunic 4 months ago
Well said. Gay people unfortunately are human, and as such have all the insecurities and egos of all the others. I get discouraged with the LGBT community because we cannot seem to be united. There are so few of us. You should do a talk on Transgender folks. That is another huge prejudice within the community or how about Lesbos and Fags cannot get along. You could have a whole series....
dlane002 5 months ago
@dlane002
I actually don't agree with the "LGBT" thing, I don't think transgendered should be grouped with gays, lesbians, and bisexuals, as those 3 things are types of sexuality - while being transgendered does not necessarily have anything to do with sexuality. Also I get along great with lesbians lol, I never realized they couldn't get along. :)
Tweakerbythespeaker 5 months ago
@Tweakerbythespeaker Again I agree with you on the issue that Transgender folks are fundamentally different from gays and lesbians. They totally are. BUT we need each other politically and emotionally & culturally even. These people are courageous and we need that energy. We have to rise above the prejudice and be a better community than the one that oppresses us! And Thank you for replying. I don't beleive that has ever happened to me before on a youtube post. I have to say I was a bit shocked.
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@Tweakerbythespeaker Again I agree with you on the issue that Transgender folks are fundamentally different from gays and lesbians. They totally are. BUT we need each other politically and emotionally & culturally even. These people are courageous and we need that energy. We have to rise above the prejudice and be a better community than the one that oppresses us! And Thank you for replying. I don't beleive that has ever happened to me before on a youtube post. I have to say I was a bit shocked
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@Tweakerbythespeaker Again I agree with you on the issue that Transgender folks are fundamentally different from gays and lesbians. They totally are. BUT we need each other politically and emotionally & culturally even. These people are courageous and we need that energy. We have to rise above the prejudice and be a better community than the one that oppresses us! And Thank you for replying. I don't beleive that has ever happened to me before on a youtube post. I have to say I was a bit shocked
dlane002 5 months ago
I love you josh <3 lol MORE VIDS NOW!!!
E742w 6 months ago
Great video! You should make more, you're an intriguingly attractive speaker.
Lockearchangel 8 months ago
I really liked this, and I would reccomend doing more videos.
Clairvoyant23 8 months ago
bless you joshy. i couldnt focus on what you were saying for imagining you sucking your own cock. soz.
curtisjtmachen 10 months ago
i love the comparison to over the top masculine acting straight guys with flamers. they are the ends of the spectrum except I think with the straight guys it comes more from insecurity and they "flamers" it comes more from complete security.
DrNHand1994 11 months ago
Why do gays discriminate against other gays? Its so ironic
darthdiego3 11 months ago
Very well said, it is not often I am impressed but you broadcast your views in such a mature fashion, with such excellent points it is hard not to be impressed. It is nice to know the world has people like you! very touching, great video.
masterdare459 11 months ago
@masterdare459
Thats very kind :) thank you.
Tweakerbythespeaker 11 months ago
Ok so, I just got tons of subscribers all in the same day, can any of you recent subscribers explain, perhaps this was posted somewhere?
Tweakerbythespeaker 11 months ago
@Tweakerbythespeaker There was a bulletin from austenwack on my homepage recommending your vid. Looks like it was sent around 3 AM EST 3.20.2011.
Nice, thoughtful video BTW. Keep it up!
micronautp 11 months ago
@Tweakerbythespeaker There was a bulletin on my home page from austenwack recommending your vid. Looks like it was sent around 3 am Eastern DST.
Nice and thoughtful video, BTW. Keep it up!
P
micronautp 11 months ago
Oops, sorry for the duplicate. Thought it wasn't posting.
micronautp 11 months ago
@Tweakerbythespeaker Well...I saw it in a Bulletin from a youtuber i'm suscribed to (austenwack) and that's why i'm here....you should really make more videos hehe
Nandito86 11 months ago
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@Tweakerbythespeaker saw it on a bulletin.
AnimexBoi 11 months ago
Aha! You have ADHD! Right.. right?
Indescriptive 11 months ago
@Indescriptive
Some call it that :), I call it... a blast of creative energy that's not exactly "ideal" for current society, but i wouldn't have it any other way.
Tweakerbythespeaker 11 months ago 5
Really well put :)
elliotf282 11 months ago
Bitch, stop moving your arms so much :)
TCMoor 11 months ago
Eloquently put!
ChaseSpringer 11 months ago
Your room is too American..
OurTube92 1 year ago
@OurTube92
Fortunately for you I now live in a dorm.
Tweakerbythespeaker 1 year ago
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OurTube92 1 year ago
YEAH!!!1 LOVE THY FLAMER!! WE R ALL PINK INSIDE!
dorianstark 1 year ago
When I see other gays engage in this kind of harmful shit I take them to task. Gays who don't like "flamers" are cowards and self-haters. We catch enough bullshit from the straight world, do we really need our own people adding to it? They are adopting the same rhetoric non-gays use to police and limit the way we behave. Masculinity is socially constructed. There is no right or wrong way to BE A MAN. This kind of self-hate is only going to keep us back.
TeenageWildlife 1 year ago
I'm myself...don't care what people say. its fun being different.
FreakOfNewMoon 1 year ago
Agreed. 100%
chasetheswimmer 1 year ago
what is a flamer
insanepokemon 1 year ago
You should get a talk show. That was very Jermemy Kyle!!!
fh041205 1 year ago
OMG I LOLED at pooler's comment... Reppin GTF :P
THEMAN080 2 years ago
i agree with this im not a flamer myself i cant do it but i dont hate em
pimpinkid28 2 years ago
This guy is totally hot.. id love to get him on that bed in the background. ;)
BesttBi 2 years ago 16
Well done, I enjoyed this very much. You seem to have quite the knack for commentaries. I'm looking forward to seeing more.
Tschus
Burdenofwords 2 years ago
Amazing =) you're very good ^_^
neeksayshi 2 years ago
That was awesome. Very well put and informal.
Aces man.
Laramie199 2 years ago
I think I'm in love...
Matteus0000 2 years ago 2
i agree 100%. good stuff
nate3993 2 years ago
I actually find it quite hard to hate. The concept is intellectually challenging.
icl4ntic 2 years ago
@lostpainting4 more so than anyone i've ever seen lol! :D
knellie360 2 years ago
Well said, and I agree with you.
That said when I find myself around a flamer for more than about 5 minutes I find myself wanting to hit them with a chair.
I don't hate then, they just annoy the hell out of me.
TriumphT140 2 years ago
@lostpainting4
I know I can't help it.
Tweakerbythespeaker 2 years ago
Don't worry about it xD It's a good thing!
Sign of a good speaker! And you are!
tomgftw1 2 years ago
A good tip to help your fidgetiness is to get your fingers and rub them on your nipples as you talk. Don't question what that's for, just go with it. Trust me.
>_>
poolerboy0077 2 years ago 33
Flamers are cute.
kenster180 2 years ago
You should have stood in front of your door :P
-Andrew
Duckgaz2 2 years ago