Eva Evita Peron in Europe- Part of a Biography Series

[MsFarfelue]

at least she was pretty

[XxpauldadudexX]

Actually are ANY watchers of this video adult Argentinians and please tell me what do your people think of Eva Peron then ?

[plainandthere88]

France received her the same way as Italy??? Italians threw tomatoes at her and the crowd called her a slut and a fascist ! The French welcomed her with respect. This journalist was probably tired when he made the report.

[am1966ath]

@plainandthere88 The Italians had lived through Fascism for 20years and her comes a lady who payed tribute to the remaining fascist ruler of Europe..Franscisco Franco..should they have respected her?? the french are weak for female beauty and jewellry..but the french were not ruled by Evita to have an opinion on more than her appearance.

[plainandthere88]

@am1966ath I agree, she was your leader and not ours so you are maybe more entitled to judge her .

But she wasn't fascist at all herself, and I don't find it relevant to mix her with Franco. She only visited Spain to pay a tribute to the Spanish people, much more than to Franco. And it's known that she personally disliked him. The crowd in Italy that day behaved like pigs.

[am1966ath]

@plainandthere88 No my friend..Im not Argentinian although I have visited Argentina and find its people to be hospitable and Buenos Aires to be beautiful..the problem is that when you live in a country under a ruler of sorts you have another opinion than when you see them from the outside..for example many western intellectualls admired Stalin and Mao..but they were not their subjets and subjected to their rule. You are right that Evita wasn t fascist but she wasn t a democrat..more a rakeeter

[DonBoyso]

Esta mujer, por medio de trapos carísimos, peluquería y potingues, tuvo mucho éxito en disimular sus rasgos mapuches. Encima, hizo correr el rumor de que era hija de vasco o no sé qué. ¡Vaya usted a saber quién sería su padre! Como si los vascos descendieran de Júpiter, ¿no te jode? Creo que fue el cursi-marica-racista de Alberdi el que recomendó que, "estoooo, estooo... si vienen emigrantes ibéricos, estoooo, estooo, y que sean vascos, che!"

[LauraCristina21]

stunning

[XxpauldadudexX]

$15 million of jewellry WTF ? Where did that money come from ? Wow in those days it woulda fed ALL the poor for a year in Argentina surely and whose paying for the ship of wheat she said shes giving to Spain ?

[DreamstateEmergency]

@XxpauldadudexX

Argentina could spare that wheat, abundance was everywhere in her time even in the remotest parts of the country cheese and ham barrels the size of a small room were given to primary and secondary schools in the most isolated towns. Unemployment was nearly non existent were talking about a time when the Argentinian peso was 1 to 1 with the US dollar and even surpassed it on more than one occasion.They are distorting things in this video the wife of a dictator? i dont think so.

[am1966ath]

@DreamstateEmergency You can be a dictator and have good times no? Evita was no Stalin nor Hitler,certainly but she was very ugly against those that opposed her, closing down newspapper,confiscating businesses and property,blackmailing businesses into giving her fundation in blanco checks of vast amount of money..Evita branded people who critized her ways as "parasites and oligarchs". Her massmeetings are very totalitarian in their form and so is her speaches.."my shirtless ones,my people"

[DreamstateEmergency]

@am1966ath

I agree with most of what you said, if she closed down newspapers and confiscated businesses and property no doubt that she had her reasons. As far as branding people who criticized her ways as parasites i have no doubt that she called the pawns and transnational companies that, as far as being totalitarian their are so many governments today that are much worse than what you are trying to imply she was, if she was so  totalitarian the military would not have hated her so much.

[am1966ath]

@DreamstateEmergency "She had her reasons" you say..mind you her victims where not exclusively so called rich people, also small shop-owners whos shops she raided,didn t pay her bills and closed them down if they protested.Transnational companies left,they have no problems,local owners and intellectuals had if they displeased her..she hid her totalitarian way behind "cinderella,Florence Nightingale"-facade. The military and the Oligarchs hate for her was personal..and she wrecked the economy.

[am1966ath]

@DreamstateEmergency Dictators come in many forms and shape...that you give dirt poor and illiterate people shoes and toys doesn t mean that you are kind. When you silence newspappers and throws critics in jail with prostitutes, then nobody is safe...I find many similarities between Evita and Immelda Marcos..same adoration,same hunger for luxury,same court of cronies and same embazzlement of state funds.The differnce is that Evita played father Christmas, as long as it lasted.

[am1966ath]

@DreamstateEmergency Hovewer she(Evita) was no Stalin nor Polpott or Saddam Hussein but she had iron fists, unsuitable for an elected president and his wife and also a advanced country that Argentina was/is..unfortunately with social differences.

[am1966ath]

@DreamstateEmergency Its unhealthy for a democracy when the wife of the elected president threatens political opponents or people she don t like in public speaches..her dislike runned deep..from society ladies to journalists to scientists..everybody that didn t support her peronal cult or willingly gave her money was branded

'ennemy of the working poor","Oligarchs","parasites".­.she even threatend the US ambassador.Her position went to her head and stayed there. Then she had her "gang" also.

[am1966ath]

@XxpauldadudexX I tell you were the money came from..Evita had a wellfare-fund that all working people and businesses in Argentina had to contribute to..Evita disliked any audit of this fund so she stuck her hands deep

and took the money to buy all that jewellry,becoming the richest women in South America in the process.

In brief..the poor payed for her 15$million jewellry.

[XxpauldadudexX]

@am1966ath What a surprise...another fake saint. Sounds like she was a egoist who wanted people to think shes caring but NO human can buy that much jewellry n care for the poor....anyway her fukin husband was a military dictator who was friends with Hitler I heard so why are aregentine poor people liking her still....myths die hard I guess ??? : /

[am1966ath]

@XxpauldadudexX When you are very poor and a good looking and well dress women comes along and gives your children toys and yourself clothes and food and milk..youll love her. Her husband used her personality to enrich himself..when she died he went into exile in Madrid..fabulously wealthy. Evita probably had complexes about her poor background and struggling past..she was very mean to all those that helped her or had shown her any kindness..ungratefulness is the ways of the world,unfortunately

[am1966ath]

@XxpauldadudexX Politics become passion in some countries..and passion blurs all sense of reality. The poor never asked her were her jewellry came from..her husbands monthly salary was 2000$..how can his wife buy 15$million worth of jewellry???

[XxpauldadudexX]

@am1966ath I bet its that madonna movie Evita people think is a true story that she was a saint. The Argentine poor people sound the noble ones...a million times nicer than these egoists who led them. Sad but its true , the nicest ladies in most nations are the poor mothers who are too loving n trusting but I'd rather have them as my mother than Eva

[am1966ath]

@XxpauldadudexX Poor women/mothers are not glamourous enough for media and film..the world loves cinderella stories..Evita resembles Maos wife who herself was an actor in Shanghai in the 1930 before becoming a queen of equality,demanding that her subjects live in egalitarian poverty while herself living in luxury..she herself were very vindictive against those that knew her before she became Madam Mao. Poverful people hate to be reminded about their past, and people frm their past.

[debzeppeliniv]

Perons, Evita, Nazi, harborer, ha Europe knew what she was nothing but a Nazi whore.

[DreamstateEmergency]

@debzeppeliniv

do some more reading you sound like an un educated fool,if europe thought she was nothing then why during that time the largest immigration numbers came from all over Europe? not to mention Europe was neck deep in importing and exporting with Evitas administration.Just to clear this Nazi harborer comment you made the US gov funded the Nazis.Not all German people were Nazi's.Next you will say Salvador Allende was a dictator and Pinochet democratically elected.

[am1966ath]

@debzeppeliniv Her husband, Juan Domingo certainly had pro-nazi views..I don t think she had..she was a mix of mother Theresa and Al Capone, with a little Robin Hood and Rockefeller thrown in..

[SouthernWasp]

She has been reincarnated as Obama! But with greater adoration!

[SouthernWasp]

She has been reincarnated as Obama!

[violetabart]

muy lindo

[TheDiesel2009]

i like her story

[kooritsuki]

Wow... this is a VERY subjective documentary I see...

[denberg2]

Who is the dark-haired woman with Evita in most of this video? Franco's wife?

[denberg2]

She flew to Europe in a plane, so why did she return to Argentina by boat?

[rmhrlj]

@denberg2 because she flew from Europe to Uruguay before returning to BA. It's across the Rio de la Plata.

[jaimecruz1234]

Infelizmente não há conheci, mas me rendo aos seus encantos, beleza e humanismo. Viva Eva, viva Eva peron!!!

[TheDarkPhoenix23]

I had the opportunity to talk to a patient of mine that was from Argentina and grew up under the Peron's rule. I asked him what his thoughts about them were and he stated that they were "Good to the people, but ultimetly TOO good to the people causing economic issues". Funny how everyone see them differently.

[GoddessofCoruscant]

@TheDarkPhoenix23 I guess we never will know the whole truth...

[js2040]

Stupid

[js2040]

Stupid nazi sympathizers!!!! they hid nazis in argentina. Even let them open up their own nazi schoos. Stupid latino people.

[msg4alexandre]

@js2040 you should know a little bit more about your country, US received a lot of " ex- Nazi" the same ones whom help your country be a nuclear power. and A lot of Nazi went to live in USA.

[js2040]

@msg4alexandre Of course it was and still is predominetly white. I can expect that from white America, but from a latino country or any other colored country that makes no sense. Pure ignorance

[Gonzalodeargentina]

Argentina loves you Evita.

[jam31688]

this video is so untruthful

[msRluvsU]

I like how the narrator guy pronounces her name wrong.

[icebear1946]

The wardrobes clearly threw US reporters totally off the story. I'd assume that Latinos would figure a guy like Peron who had a woman like that and DIDN'T dress her as well as he did would be some sort of an asshole. I notice that the fancy stuff only seemed to come out for state functions; scenes of Eva interacting with normal people show her dressed modestly.

[icebear1946]

Perons don't fit into normal US categories. Closest adjective would be 'populist' and the closest thing to Eva in US politics today would be Sarah Palin. Today's democrats are basically gangsters.

[evaperonfan]

I agree. I don't like the Democrats or the Republicans. But I disagree with you on Sarah Palin.

[ashleydiamonddiamond]

It´s incredible!

[Abridgedfan134]

Iva Peron?

[Abridgedfan134]

Can you imagine if Eva had been here today, how hostile the FOX News network had been

[gwatson678]

@Abridgedfan134

...you hit the nail on the head there.... it seems that the conservative movement is against helping the masses of poverty striken souls.... Thanks for your comment

[evaperonfan]

um, excuse me? I'm very conservative, and I'm NOT against helping the poor. I've used most of my money from my book sales for helping persecuted Christians, many of whom live on less than a dollar a day and under the fear of torture and loss of life! Now flame me all you want. I don't care!

[storm915]

@evaperonfan Persecuted Christians? Who could that be??? The children who were raped and molested by the Catholic priests?

I hope you are using the money you gather to help the actual abused and not giving your money to the abusers...because that would make you an accomplice in their criminal acts.

[evaperonfan]

@storm915 do you have *anything* nice to say to me? And to answer your question, yes, I do help the actual abused. My money goes to Christians in countries like Saudi Arabia, where it's illegal to even own a fucking BIBLE!

[1936lavigne]

We need a new Eva Peron!!

[AmandaKay1723]

We recently watched the musical about Eva in my Spanish class. I'm not a fan of musicals, but the history is fascinating. Nobody's perfect and she did what she had to, in order to make a name for herself.

[THEENGLISHROSE100]

I have just read two biographys of Eva whilst on my holiday. The first was written by an American and again was very one sided, but this is just typical of them. I have been captivated by Eva since Evita the musical was first created and my Grandfather told me what he knew about her. I feel that Eva was someone very special who cared so much for her beloved descamisados even when the cancer she fought so bravely ravaged her. God Bless her and all in Argentina!!

[GoddessofHyrule]

It is not just Americans who are one sided. The Argentine biographies who whitewash her are just as one sided. She was neither saint nor villian, and my novel aims to portray her as a sort of "grey" figure.

[VanitasxAura]

@GoddessofHyrule I LOVE YOU!!!!!! I'm writing a novel that portrays her as a human being, good and bad in one person. Evita and Peron are portrayed in a fictitious manner, as the narrator is their fictitious adopted daughter. Everyone in my novel is based on something related to Eva and Peron.

[am1966ath]

@GoddessofHyrule I find this newsreel to be neither hostile nor one-sided. Who said that Evita was kind or loving? The poor payed for her jewells and the wealth of her & her husband came from embazzling a welfare fundation. Evita was not kind or tolerant against those that disagreed with her and she tolerated no critizism.

Her way of speaking to the Argentinian people is in the fashion of a dictator talking to infantils.

[EnzFab73]

@am1966ath Well this documentary is riddled with gossip and mis-information. It is actually humorous to a certain degree. Whether you think it's not hostile or one-sided doesn't hide the fact that those that heavily research the woman, it is a failed attempt at a history lesson. This documentary was branded on a footnote of a good latin american history book as an example "of the biased in North American news reporting".

[am1966ath]

@EnzFab73 Hispanics love glamour...but her ways in power was not nice or glamourous against those that didn t play along with what she wanted...I wonder what kind of friends those old ladies calling her a saint where as she was known to dislike people in general..she hated to be reminded about her old days and the people who helped her...her voice is harsh, she talks in spanish about parasits and oligarchs while she and her husband was the biggest oligarchs in Argentina through theft.

[EnzFab73]

@am1966ath Where do you get the idea that Eva disliked people. Those who knew her personally state otherwise. No one but Evita knew what her true motivations were. Not Webber, not Rice, not Mary Main, not John Barnes & defintely not the m0r0ns who researched this ridiculous documentary or those who have a bone to pick with Eva Peron. When I see these idiots working 20 hours a day, kissing lepers, receiving the poor & cover themselves with lice, create a womens political movement .....

[EnzFab73]

@EnzFab73 CONT ..that initiated women entering politics in a male dominated society, introduce healthcare for all to a nation where only the rich benefitted, visit slums, shanties & forgotten parts of the country & hand out clothes/food/toys with free medical checkups, create a foundation that built thousands of establishments from hospitals, schools, orphanages, shelters, vacation retreats for lower income families & send First Aid to other contries..then they may have a reason to talk.

[EnzFab73]

@EnzFab73 CONT: Like one of her more reasonable opponents stated "Had we done for the poor a tiny fraction of what Eva has done,there never would have been a Peron & she would still be a bad actress". U mean to tell me that the administrations PRIOR to Peron were successful? Why do so many historians refer to the Argentine situation of the 30s as "The Infamous Decade", why was there so much political upheaval & violence?Strikes?Poverty?Socia­l unrest?Exploitation?

[EnzFab73]

@EnzFab73 CONT: Lastly, Argentina may have been fat with dollars but few had access to its riches as history clearly shows us. Blaming Eva for all of Argentina's woes is somewhat laughable. Many still do but it takes more than ONE woman to ruin a county & digging deeper into Argentine history prior to 1945 and after 1952, it will expose and unmask Argentina as a politically violent place whose woes go far back, years before the world knew of a bejewelled blond called Eva Peron.

[am1966ath]

@EnzFab73 That is true...I visited Buenos Argentina an found the widespread poverty among middle class people in such a rich country offensive. The argentinians are a talanted and generous people, they shouldn t suffer the way they do. All Evitas ideas were not wrong but turning a country and its society/economy into your private playground isn t okey with me. When Evita was gone and Juan Domingo went to Madrid,the argentinian poor were still poor and left to be govern by sadistical officers.

[am1966ath]

@EnzFab73 Unfortunately that is true with many Latin-American economies..they are rich but the wealth is concentrated to a few hands...but the answer is not to blackmail privat business into giving donations in blanco or close them down. Why do you feel this newsreel is hostile??? who in Argentina at the time would dare ask where the money to buy all those furs & jewellry came from?? who would dare ask why she threw society ladies in jail with prostitutes???

[am1966ath]

@EnzFab73 Where did you think they money for all this came from?? she collected the money from the same people that she "gave" healthcare and shoes/toys/food..and they payed for her jewells/furs also. Populism is not hard when you rule absolute and threatens opposition. She saw the "people" as her plaything that she could command as she saw fit...my shirtless ones she called them like they were her serfs..people who dared have another oppinion was branded as Oligarchs and parasites,jailed.

[am1966ath]

@EnzFab73 They didnt do in-depth documentaries in 1947..this is a newsreel for cinema...her speeches in spanish are not nice..she accuses people that don t approve of her of being "oligarchs", be they journalists,doctors or industrialists dividing a society and spreading fear among those that had other ideas.

Thats not very nice...its no problem creating a womens movement, or confiscating an oligarchs estate for hospital when you have absolute power and collects money from everyone.

[am1966ath]

@EnzFab73 No Argentinian newreel of the period could have been objetive..she would be described as a saint or by those who disliked her as a prostitute. Argentina was very far away in those pre-jet and CNN-times and what happend in faraway countries was seen as exotic,pitoresque and of little consequence from the view from London or New York.

[am1966ath]

@EnzFab73 Exactly, nobody really knew her but her behaviour was n t nice if you didn t agree with her..people who come from humble beginnings usually hate to be reminded from where they came and they usually hate people from their past who knew them before the transformation into stardom..unfortunately very human.

[am1966ath]

@GoddessofHyrule Very true..when you divide a society the way she did then objectivity becomes blurred.

[gencoss]

at 0:11 her smile is so cute

[belindaw]

They could at least have the courtesy of pronouncing her name correctly! It's said Ava, not Eva!!!

[minyme1995]

i am from england i love evita. evita was the fucking best and sill is. people in england love evita. i alson love che.

[preciouspaul847]

You're the smartest one here. How do you vote?

[evitastories]

Hilarious. I love the ending where it says, "She has decided she'd like to be the Vice President and nothing will stand in her way, not even Peron!" It's just such nonsense!

[evitastories]

Oh, this is the notorious Biography from years ago. I remember seeing this when I was about 17 and thinking it was just vicious toward Evita.

[EnzFab73]

This is not pegged correctly at all. Anyone who has researched Evita & take their sources from scholars/historians who have spent decades researching her know how ridiculously biased this is. If you want to believe the gossip or those who take their references from yellow journalists, a musical & those who had a bone to pick with Evita, great but to state this as fact is laughable. A lot of the commentator's gossip has been disproved of by scholars, the problem is people don't want to listen.

[EnzFab73]

I deleted your comment by accident. 2nd time I do this today. Further to your comment, no one but Evita knows what her motivations are. It's hard for those who have researched her to accept that a woman who worked 18+ hours a day, built 1000's of establishments-homes,schools, orphanages, hostels, old age homes, vacation retreats for the poor, gave women the vote & PERSONALLY went to shanties, remote country villages to hand out food & clothes or sat for hours listening to the poor.....

[EnzFab73]

.... gave the poor Universal Healthcare which according to stats improved death rates within the poor (malnutrition, cholera) & provided first-aid & relief to countries outside of Argentina such as Turkey, Isreal & even the US ..was doing this for herself when her fame was already in tact. You can't name one other political figure other than Mother Theresa who did so much for the poor. All of this Eva accomplished between 1947-1952. Her accomplishments are massive & her haters usually ignore.

[storm915]

@EnzFab73 If her haters are usually ignored, as you say, then her party would still be strong and in office...as she left it, but the world evolved and so did Argentina, and they actually are Democratic and free...more so than any Peron follower of that age would have wanted.

[evaperonfan]

@storm915 actually, the Peronists are still in office down there. The current president of Argentina is a Peroninst and she cites Evita as an inspiration.

[EnzFab73]

@storm915 There have been several Peronists administrations in Argentina since Eva's demise and the current female president adores Eva Peron. This women is more alive today in the minds of her people than you think.. I should know, I spoke to many of them when I went to Chile back in Feb and the passion is still there. No matter how much you deny it, this woman will not go away. Cheers.

[marcepuelo]

@EnzFab73 thanx for your words. As a native Argentinian and Peronist, i can say that your words are true. She said in one of her latest speechs '' Yo sé que ustedes recogerán mi nombre y lo llevarán como bandera a la victoria '' which translated to English will be: I know that all of you will carry my name as a flag right to victory'' which is exactly wat's happening today here in Argentina since Néstor and Cristina took the destiny of our nation following peronist ways.

[GoddessofCoruscant]

@storm915 that's not true, unfortunately. The Peroninst party is still very strong down there, and I still get attacked by Peronists on here when I dare to disagree with them and point out what the Perons have done to their country. Argentina is still very much a dictatorship. It's a beautiful country with warm people raped in the ass by terrible dictators.

[EnzFab73]

@GoddessofCoruscant And prior to the Perons there will millions of people being exploited and mistreated by a government that didn't give a rats behind about them even though they were the ones pumping the lifeblood through their beloved countrys economy. Try researching the governments prior to Eva. Explain the social & economic unrest? why so many strikes? Military coups? corruption? poverty? malnutrition & diseases? Argentina was fat with $'s but who benefitted?

[GoddessofCoruscant]

@EnzFab73 yes, Argentina was doing badly before the Perons. However, that does not justify the Perons worsening th e situation. Not at all. I have researched it. Peron and Eva did not better the lives of the descamisados. In fact, they made them worse. Are you aware that Eva forced the workers to contribute one days' pay to her 'foundation?' That is nothing short of thievery! Before the Perons, Argentina was poised to become a superower rivaling the US. Today? Not so much.

[quaxk]

@EnzFab73 what a moronic argument: "this dictator is a little bit less harsh than the previous, let's deify her!"

[GoddessofCoruscant]

@quaxk that's exactly what I've been saying. It's like a thief defending themself on the basis that there are or were other thieves.

[EnzFab73]

@quaxk I can make a lengthy list of Eva’s accomplishments, all done within 6 years (many country leaders have not been able to accomplish within such a short time, never mind a first lady) & also list several reasons as to why 1000's if not millions in her country came about to deify her. I may not agree with it but there are reasons & it stems from Hispanic culture, Eva’s emergence in politics within a sensitive political landscape & within a society scarred by class & gender divisions.

[violetabart]

@quaxk ?

[booksbrown]

Cornejod,

It seems all the more putrid since it comes from the voice of the "objective" journalist Mike Wallace. It's really an amazing shame that American television creates these caricatures of complex historical figure.

[AnaliaHyrule]

most us news channels are either skewed to the right (Fox) or to the left(CNN). But I can't think of anyone who's truly objective. Everyone has an agenda. Not just Americans.

[booksbrown]

This is so true, but then, should we stand by and say nothing when when opinions unjustly express a "better than thou" attitude? American journalists, today, and in the past when news reporters actually announced their views as unbiased, are supposed to provide a fair and balanced view. Yes, no one is truly objective, but aren't there times when you feel or think, "hey, that is simply over the line" ? Honestly, I would not put FOX (very slanted) in the same category as CNN. Maybe MSNBC though.

[momandiswa]

???

i dont get how they critique her

but i didnt watch like all of the video

could you please explain??

[PelonLatino]

Viva Evita Peron. We Love Evita.

[cornejod]

This documentary is full of hatred towards a woman that clearly went against everything the US elite stands for. This is the type of documentary that kept US audiences ignorant about the rest of the world, paranoid that everyone was against them, and gained few friends outside the Anglo-American axis. I am no peronist, but even Hitler received better treatment than this.How brave of the US to pick on a woman thousands of miles away. Little wonder Americans are so beloved around the world.

[AndromedaMariaCarmen]

not all americans are like that.