Re: Sen. Ted Kennedy supports Net Neutrality

[Drstrangelove17]

on and on the rain pours down, picking up again. I pour myself a bowl of cereal. I get up to stretch a bit.

another proto-ian step... a focusing of philosophical, political ideas (that is, it was all generalized before).

hm. onward, I absorb like the grass collects the rain.

[MoonCloud217]

hm, youtube misplaced my comment? It was for Dannoymanno, not crossmack. Anyway, great video, Ian. I haven't heard any of this before, and since this video is pretty old I guess nothing really happened yet?

[xyberfunk]

STOP THE SOCIALIST DEMS! Our Great Republic is at serious risk! The Democrats will only prolong and make worse an already "REAL" situation of terror and horror in the world. The struggle of Good vs. evil exists and our Countries NATIONAL SECURITY is at GREAT RISK! The clinton agenda is very dangerous to America as it is aligned with EVIL. VOTE AS OUR FOUR FATHERS! SAVE THE REPUBLIC!

[radijator2]

i COULD N T belive when I saw him

[rockvulcan]

that F33b guy has no idea what he's talking about. Kennedy has one of the highest voting rates in Congress. Dude works his ass off.

[F33bs]

Okay first of all I dont trust ANY MAN who devotes himself to a political party, Republican or Democrat. I dont trust any man who has been in a public position since '62 and expects me to believe he's not corrupt. This man should be out of the Senate, he's been there for long enough.

[F33bs]

Crossmack:

Did you even see the irony in him advocating free speech on the internet, yet making all comments be pre approved?

No. Because you're a tool. 'Hear my voice.' Bull-fucking-shit. Politicians dont give a shit man. Wake the fake up.

[xyberfunk]

yeah.. protect the criminals on the internet, the evil men that want to destroy America... wake up fools, this is a liberal plot to undermine the republic! Go watch "Animal Farm", these socialists are DANGEROUS to America..

[strato46]

Nice going "Mr Mcarthy". lets start up the trials and blacklist everyone that the administration doesn't like. Everythings a liberal plot. "Let's blame this mess on them ,,, and those damned gays.......and those tree hugging Hippies ....and..and..." We've heard it all before . ...."and lets get those Commies...." Oh be quiet!

[thinazzabird]

Saltjoe overestimates our pathos at his departure from the herd but he's right about kiss-of-life Ted Kennedy holding forth on something. The man is a walking psy-op. His family made CIA hate them so much they had to murder a bunch of their own just to be able to hold their food down after Texas. Anything Kennedy says is Satanic literature in dummified-first-class America. Too bad. Another score for RAND et al.

[thysbes]

Crossmack you're actually smarter than I gave you credit for. I apologize if I offended you. In fact you're smarter than the rest of the conspiracy dorks who appose net neutrality. Keep it up!

[KingOfTheNubies]

The Government wants to "control" the internet.

To "Protect you".I dont need someone to "Tell me" what

I can watch,what I can see.

You are free..free to see what we "want you" to see.

"For your own good...this opion is BAD..this opion is good.....Yes thats it for your good. FOR OWN GOOD!"

Damm I'm manning the the baracades if they go down that road.

The Government hates the internet

[saltjoe]

Be careful when enlisting Government to intervene on a battle that's not even yours. "evil" big corporation vs "evil" big corporation. Amazon vs AT&T, Yahoo vs Verizon. (I'm assuming you know how internet works, beyond mumbo jumbo 'freedom of speech"). When did the gov't ever voluntarily give up control once it has it? My last phone bill still carried Spanish-American War tax on it.

[jamz05dadon]

like it it is sad and it reminds me of my friend that saddly was killed last year because of reading chain letters and now that you have read this eshe will slowly kill you by everytime you hear a ring in your ear she will make your life shorter by a day post this on five different vidios to be saved sorry

[3GenHou]

Is this a real threat or is it bogus? I've seen nothing about this. Where can I find some facts about what's being attempted?

[iammick66]

I very much support net neutrality. But you said this is important and that is why Ted Kennedy made this statement. This is important. But that's not why Ted Kennedy made this video. He made this to get some attention. He is a sorry excuse for a human being.

[saltjoe]

I'm just saddened by the today's activists' quality compare to that of 1960. Today, it's about throwing slogans like "neutrality, evil-corporation & human right" w/o understanding the truth of NN: Content vs Pipeline providers recruiting gov't's intervention. It appears the Pipeline's "neutrality" phrase's catching on. Even more sad: politicians are catering to the herds & screwing up the Net w/ further regulations.

[thysbes]

Hey, satjoe explain if you can your argument. If you're a right wing nutjob being paid to post I'll be able to tell so don't fuck with me! Just lay the conspiracy out and let me decide. Lay out your opinion and use facts please.

[saltjoe]

Nice job on label & profanity on me. All my career, I've been fighting the telco thru CLECs and muni broadband initiatives. But this once I depart from the herds, I'm a "right wing nutjob" & "McCurry's operatives".

Just google "Bob Kahn" for his stand on NN. That Vint Cerf works for Google, while Kahn stays w/ non-profit, oughta tell you something. Unless you're a moron, you oughta know both. Now, fuck off. Congrat for prompting me using my first "fuck" word on youtube, fucking asshole.

[thysbes]

Thanks for being honest at least I know your full of shit now and you want to control the net to promote your agenda. I'm glad I can see right ha! ha! through all of you now. At least you didn't say the right wing is as bad as the left we know what that leads to. Fair and balanced. PUKE! Is there anyone on your side that's smart enough to fool me?

[saltjoe]

The right is as bad as the left. BTW, never figured out the two folks I mentioned below, eh? Thus your evading to even discuss the real issue & your character assassination tactic. BTW, you don't need any help on "my side" to make yourself look like a fool. Done a great job yourself at it.

[thysbes]

Has the left ever blown up an abortion clinic or killed hundreds of people in the federal building bombing? What about the olympic park bomber? Give me an example of the left being just as bad? You can't none of you looneys can. The right is violently worse than the left not just as bad. If you can't answer my question then don't bother squeezing that black head of a brain all over our posts please.

[saltjoe]

I believe we were talking about Net Neutrality, with Sen. Stevens (AK-R) on the right, and Sen. Dorgan (ND-D) on the left. One as retarded as the other.

I'm curious, why are you trying to move away from the NN topic and jump to Roe v Wade, Tim McVeigh, or any other topic? Is it because you don't know how internet works? The origin of NN debate? Who Kahn or Cerf is?

[thysbes]

I'm sorry why should I pay an extra toll to access another part of the web again? I already pay a monthly fee for delivery of a service. The internet is a library of sorts and I don't like to be told that a certain section is off limits because I can't afford it. No more elitism in America there's enough of it already.

[saltjoe]

Who said you should pay more? If anyone does, it'll be eBay, Yahoo & Google (although even Vint Cerf himself didn't wanna say it, and instead using safe phrase like "it sounds as if they might" when interviewed about his pro-NN stand). eBay & Amazon are fully aware that activist-wannabes & people like you won't bother doing further research. Easy target to dupe w/ one-liners such as "elitism, internet-under-attack, neutrality & equality" to fight for them.

[THEPISCOKID]

GREAT JOB.

[Dannoymanno]

Thanks.

[acb13222]

you are awesome. thanks

[nmfd72]

What Planet did you say you were from??

[42BIGBANK42]

nice speech give em hell bro

[iced327]

well spoken friend

[WiLlz012345]

YEAH

[Donutmangreen]

you speak truth my friend

[HalogenBurn]

FAKE.

[littlewatermelongilr]

omg! :(

[Kenzofeis]

All this complaining about communism and lack of freedoms, and at the same time selling out on freedom? Regulating and censoring information is what the US have been whining about Soviet and China and others doing for decades. It is a way for the powers to control the masses, by way of what information is available. Ye, just wake up before u have ur own USSR.

[OcalaFlorida]

perfectly spoken...

[Kenzofeis]

Thnx :) have a nice day!

[thefileguy]

your passion is commendable. but internet cemsorship ia alive, well and getting worse as the 'engines' build their empires. sorry, wish your passion could be rewarded.

[UncleMilo]

Well... why not take action to stem the tide?

[tobikeef]

The undermining of internet neutrality will be george w. bush's last straw. Those fuckers want war? It'll be war.

[orenjiotoku]

Tobikeef... shut up, dude.

[tobikeef]

because...? You're trying to say...? You're point is...?

[WWWdotDotHackdotCom]

You faggot.

[UncleMilo]

Who are you talking to?

Does your mommy know you're using her computer withour permission?

Nothing shows off your ignorance then the use of such base and common slurs.

[WWWdotDotHackdotCom]

No, no, don't get the wrong impresion, it's just so many fucks post the same shit, their opinion is cool, but 2 or 3 responses is cool enough. Most people just like their Vid count up.

[chopin65]

It is also called equity of access. I work in a library and we provide information for everyone, no matter how poor or rich you are. You are right to freak out over this. This is our one place to practice Democracy.

[ZeroTheBurninator]

I totally agree.

[WWWdotDotHackdotCom]

Nice to see we watch the same stuff.

[mdblackhurst]

I agree, this is an affront to democratic ideas and values at their core, it would hurt small businesses in America, and is a complete bitch slap to anyone innovative enough to start something new on the internet without large amounts of personal capital or corporate sponsorship. You Tube probably wouldn't have taken off. What a giant pathetic step backward!!! First Amendment?? huh??

[CJDavidson]

NN for Al-Qaeda? Oy!

Mary Jo Kopechne dittos..

[ricvab]

I am just surprised at how the right wing is so willing to give up freedoms in this country. Freedoms they claim the troops die for. And for what, companies that hire 3rd world low wage earners to answer the phones? No I don't want an ISP picking what I see online, none of us should. Wake up my fellow Americans! PLEASE! They government works for us, not ISP INC.

[brickguru]

Of course he looks passoniate! That's how he gets re-elected. It's called acting.

[islandGAL7]

Mary Jo Kopechne

[adlww]

So if you don't like what your ISP is giving you, switch to another one!!! That's what FREEDOM is. In a free market, if people don't like their internet, they have choices.

[MustacheVerra]

It's interesting that you say it will bring us together, and you're probably right. But That is not what the (shadow) government wants. They want to keep us devided to better control us.

Anyway, go boy! Let's keep the internet what it is...

Anyone noticed how all the message are positive after his video?... They only approve positive message. A sign of things to come people...

[Gundwane69]

I wonder how this debate in the U.S. will affect us in Europe. It could set a nasty precedent, leading European govornments to debate net neutrality. I would hope that we are more secure in our freedom. We fought hard enough for it.

[yesitsfast]

Name one thing the government has ever done right. Socialized internet... yes, that's what I want! Teddy is a fat, drunk, blowhard, career politician who cares more about winning his next election than protecting our freedoms.

[wntoply6]

and i bet you're a religious right/moral majority/led by the nose southern neo con. i see you have learned great passion from your fucking phoney religion!

[vaginamaster]

Net neutrality destroys the rights of the service provider. If you dont like what your provider allows you to see, cancel your service and find another. I posted a Comment similiar to this as a responce to the original ted kennedy video. Anyways, corporations are not bad and they deserver the right to run their buisness. Net neutrality stops internet service providers from running their buisnesses freely.

[Louiethecuban]

I am for net nutrality, but..

TED KENNEDY IS ONCE AGAIN FULL OF SHIT.

How is Ted FOR net nutraility when I can't post comments that are against him. He filters out all of the bad comments. Did he not say a free internet REGARDLESS of political party?

Don't be fooled by Ted Kennedy.

[wntoply6]

because ted is liberal, one should not be fooled by him? he has done more to help people of all races, faiths & orientations than most of congress combined. I'd love to look at your accomplishments at the sunset of your life and compare it. for sure, you would never measure up, so save the christian right/moral majority/neo con crap.  the only people who buy this are ignoramouses who don't care about facts, only how to lie to gain power.

[Louiethecuban]

Name some of his accomplishments.

[wntoply6]

give me 1 fucking thing bush has done except alienate then entire world against us, fail to take care of the many human casualties in the katrina debacle, and of course went to war and lied to the US. all these pale in comaprison to what ever accomplishments this ass hole had. oh, and yes his fucking brother jeb tried to keep terry shrieve alive and fought the US and the LAW in keeping that young CUBAN boy oh, never mind...you have nothing to say except bullshit.

[Louiethecuban]

And whats wrong with keeping the cuban boy?

[wntoply6]

just as i thought...if you have to ask, then there is no point in carrying on a conversation with you at all. like bush, if you don't like a law, break it. it was against the FUCING LAW you fucking ass.

[Louiethecuban]

the entire castro regime is against the fucking law.

[digimomma]

Absolutely correct wntoply6. And who cares what Louie thinks, cheeeeeeeeeeezzz

[tnekkc]

Ted Kennedy wants my money, through higher taxes. Ted Kennedy's vast torture is in Fiji, to avoid taxes. Liberals control ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, CNN, New York Times, etc. It must really burn Ted up, seeing that we can call him a liberal hypocrite that is trying to steal our money, and now trying to steal the Internet.

[wntoply6]

and he breaks no laws, he only does what his accountants (and yours) tell him to do when he files his taxes. the laws btw were written by your religious right/moral majority/neo con right wingers, so please look at your own actions before you cast the first stone you bible heathen.

[tnekkc]

Was I as stupid as that kid when I was young?

Get a different ISP airhead!

[kuaran]

Well, as you asked, yes, you were as stupid as that kind when you were young, but the difference may be that you still seem to be at that level ... if you happen to be against Net Neutrality :-) Take care, anyway!

[tnekkc]

If Ted Kennedy wants it, it's bad.

He is a bad man.

Everything he has ever wanted was bad.

He the enemy of free Americans.

He is a big Government, Big brother is watching enimy of free enterprise and armed Americans.

He is a socialist that wants my free speech, my money, and my guns.

I don't think he is going to heaven.

[kuaran]

Hi again tnekkc. I wonder if you take Ted too seriously. He has good intentions, even if you do not accept his stance. Besides, why would he want your money; he is rich enough himself! That's actually what prof. Ted Becker of Auburn University said about American two-party system: moth major parties are "big money parties" making US a good example of plutocracy ...

[wntoply6]

well for sure anyone who calls himself a moral majority/religious right/neo con is not going to heaven either...your bible only gives you nut cases the right to hate.

[tnekkc]

Ted is not missing heaven because he killed his girl friend on the side.

He is in trouble for stealing my:

1) free speech

2) money

3) guns

4) land rights

[wntoply6]

some how we all get tired of this. did you know that larua bush your pristine first lady did the same thing? care to elaborate on that tnekkc. do we blessed leftist bring that up every time we talk about bushie and is drunken wife?

[wntoply6]

you sir are ignorant and don't know what you are talking about, but hey you have your opinion no matter how uninformed and ignorant it is. may god rest your poor sole.

[Gundwane69]

You spelt soul wrong.

[ernieb45978]

theyve already done it in china. google conformed. if you go to google images china and surch tiannamen square, you might see a few pictures of the square, some diplomats. but if you go google images in america and search tiannamen square, you'll see photos of the massacre. you ranted, and you did a good job dude.

[JamJells]

Why would slowing down progress makes any kind of sense?

[clintrock]

haha I'll say it again

ONLY IN AMERICA.... the WORLD wide web people... WORLD...

I'd rather they don't censor themselves in America, but it's really up to the people there. If it happens it's because they didn't get involved enough in taking care of themselves.

[neopony]

Right on, brother - while our government "keeps an eye" on how the rest of the world is behaving, we always have to remember to "keep an eye" on them! Freedom in the United States is a privelege that we ALWAYS have to make sure we are protecting for ourselves. Well done.

[woods1]

"Erreeeh, they don't call me Tyrannosaurus Sex for nothing." --Sen. Ted Kennedy

[TheWatchdog]

The corporate elites and International bankers who control our government do not want freedom of any kind. Ted Kennedy is not to be trusted. Wake up! A North American Union (spp.gov) is forming and our rights are being taken away.

[bracketkid]

damn that is fucking shitty ... anyone know if it is just in the US?

[kieltybell]

Excellent! I live in the UK but its a subject that affects is all...dont let the bureaucrats have more controls...enough already!

[timmoreland]

"The govt is paranoid" and "ISPs will dictate..." - nice balanced presentation

"Getting rid of net neutrality is a SECRET thing" - shhh - don't let it out.

"The Internet will bring us together and keep us from blowing each other up" - sure, but they'll still videotape beheadings for our viewing pleasure.

I will give you credit for one thing: you allow posting of comments here. Ted Kennedy only allows positive comments - hardly free, open and neutral stance!

[2ndclasspo]

Once this guy gets of crack maybe he can come up with a reasonable comment. Keep the damn politicians out of our lifes. As soon as Ted Kennedy and his group gets in, you don't believe that they are going to do everything they can to control the internet and also start charging taxes?

[CA3SAr2006]

You have AT&T, and paying $40.00 a month? dude I'm customer service agent for at&t and I know that we have better deals than that.

[thexhardcorexkid]

I wonder if they realize that no matter what they do the "terrorrists" will counter act. Lets say that al queda (spelling) WAS gathering useful information via the internet, ok, is the US hoping that if we turn the water off, they will stop trying and not look for another way to drink?

Limiting the internet will just cause them to look else where for information, and when that happens, are we goign to limit it too? A never ending cycle of cat and mouse. How pathetic.

[neglesaks]

If you want net neutrality, vote with your feet, not with your ballot. DO NOT bring politicians into this, it's a lose-lose situation!!!

[djd829]

You HAVE to bring politicians into this. They are the ones who have to pass the bill that allows ISPs to do this. This is LAW not general internet policy.

[tylin2006]

Thanks for making this issue crystal clear. People may not listen to Kennedy, but they will listen to private citizens who are not preceived as having a personal agenda. As someone who lives on a limited income, I have been very afraid my voice would be priced out of the internet.

[SoulSeekerHS]

Yet another awesome response from crossmack.

btw, if you are intrested in a free and progressiv internet: Also look into Software Patents at what they will do to OpenSource etc.

The fight for a free internet (actually, the fight for an internet as it was\is) is a fight on multiple fronts. But we are many, so there is much hope!!

[s7rugg1e]

The ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS!

If big ISPs cut off access, smaller ISPs will get money. If the government regulates ISPs, everything will slow down. BTW, how are we blowing each other up with ISPs?

[heituzi]

He's making like the corporations are against it, but there's quite a few who are for it. Basically, on the free market we can choose a provider. If ATT wants to make websites slow and control content, then can't we switch a provider? Why not advocate a free-market, non-political website which rates the different services on this freedom you want? If Ted Kenedy want it, it ain't libertarian.

[UncleJesse1]

perfect! Free-market. Net neutrality will restrict free market and offer consumers only one choice. Of course big government democrats are for net neutrality.

[ShawnCastle]

I don't like it either.Ted kenedy is lieing that's why he didn't explain, and he has to put his spin on it to make it look good when in fact it's a bad thing and will ruin the internet, but Teddy doesn't care as long as he gets reelected. He's a politician and this is a campaign to him and nothing more.

[irishdictator]

I think we owe a lot to the big corporations they built America.

[lilgreendude]

I'm glad I voted for Ted today.

Keep the net open.

[leonheart00]

Great idea, but letting the government legislate the internet is a bad thing period. Even for the better. It is up to the people to find alternate methods to gain access to what they want or move out of the country. Like I might do if there really is ISP control.

[bentropy]

You're the most uneducated moron. The Gov't funded and directed the research that developed the internet; you wouldn't have an internet without a gov't! The internet is the result andd product of legislation from its inception. You are lazy/dumb and don't want the cost and responsibiliy of freedom: eternal vigilance.

[Poppyflower66]

Hi Ian,

This is a very good, passionate response to Kennedy's video. Because most people get lazy about wathing videos over 2 min. , maybe you could re tape this peice and hit the main points quicker. I think it's important for me and others to watch this.

Thanks,

P

[Tuber77]

Totally Agree.

[superfrodies]

breathe budy! but yea, yer right...its important as hell.

[crossmack]

I got reeeeeal intense for like 40 seconds.  Sometimes I spiral into madness.

[nachodaddy]

If Teddy's for it, I'm against it. It will surely cost me money & freedom.

[bentropy]

You are a brainless kneejerk jerk-off. You don't learn anything about the issues, just thing whatever the corporate republicans tell you to think, through Fox or whatever. You think their removal of your freedoms keeps you free and that you can live in a decent societ without paying anything.

[chaoszen]

Feel free to dissagree with Teddy and his own policies, but take some time to see what net nuetrality really means. It's a good thing. Teddy just figured that if he hopped onto what the people are wanting, maybe people will support him... it's just a bandwagon for him, don't shoot down something good just because Ted is riding it for votes.

[Pensionisten]

very nice put =))

[shunohoko]

Of course Ted was using youtube for more votes. Every politician is going to do what they can to get the votes they can. It's just a matter of choosing the lesser of the evils. Net Neutrality is a huge deal and people should do what they can to support it. Who cares if you have a personal vendetta on Ted, the whole point is we have to save the freedom of the internet.

[F33bs]

Bullshit. Its about choosing someone thats is FUCKING CAPABLE OF RUNNING THE COUNTRY. Fuck this noise, 'lesser of two evils' shit. Have you ever asked yourself, why must we have two evils in the first place?

[Edustin]

Why is Ted Kennedy supporting free speech on screen, but when you wish to make a comment on his video it has to be approved? Sounds to me like he's just looking for votes.

I agree with the idea of Net Neutrality, but Ted Kennedy is a big pile of shit.

[shunohoko]

Get over the whole choosing what comments to approve. If people started a huge flame fest in the comment area it would take away from what his original message was in the first place, which is a bit more important than having a few 15 year olds go SCREW KENNEDY.

[F33bs]

No, its not shunohoko. They can remove comments that are just ridiculous. But its WRONG, plain FUCKING WRONG. To not let people play counter point to this asshole. Kennedy has been on Capitol Hill since 1962. He doesnt give a shit what happens to the internet. He only sits and rarely even goes to Congress and just collects lobbyist money the fat asshole.

[hulih20]

good comments.... fist pounding was a bit distracting... Got to keep it open....

[entertainmentgiant]

You got me going to that website now. Thanks.

Not sure exactly what to do about this issue. SOS. The struggle is on all fronts.

[RussellHiGGS]

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for

people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." said Noam Chomsky

[1tinsoldier]

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for

people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." said Noam Chomsky

Teddy's video requires comments to be approved. Dissent is being stifled. So does Teddy not believe in free speech? Apparently not.

[crossmack]

My video was removed from Ted Kennedy's page because of my reference to Al Qaeda. They sent me a message asking me to remove the reference and I told them that it didn't make any sense to do that.

[kuaran]

Hi Crossmack, you really should have understood that they cannot allow such Al Qaeda references for understandable reason. I was not wise part of your speech anyway. But in general, you gave a good speech. Keep on speaking and acting for such an important cause!

[IanCrossland]

Al Qaeda and the United States government should be communicating with words, not guns.

[Dannoymanno]

Al Qaeda does not deserve to have words wasted on them as they are blood-thirsty facists you fool. They would just as soon kill and rape your grandmother and then cut off her head in the name of "Allah" and their "jihad". Japan and Germany did not want to "talk" either. We need to help them meet their maker. Wake up.

[DFWTexan42]

The point is the internet is where their potental followers get indoctrinated. If we don't have free acccess to the net, we can't post our own point of view (The TRUTH!) to conter thier lies. IDIOT!

[MoonCloud217]

that's what they want you to believe. YOU are the one who needs to wake up. the only real bad people in this world are greedy americans who wants to control the world by starting wars - and they don't even want the wars to end! Bush knows everything and he is just lying to save his own ass.