anyone saying fan ye's small and too young and so....plz listen!!!!
now she's attending Beijing University and her height is 159cm and 104 pounds. and she still looks the same, maybe just some changes with her hair color and nails. she is dressing like a young girl, no difference from the other chinese girls.
so plz...dont judge someone's age simply by their appearence.
I think the only deduction the judges thought were from the dismount. Not the landing but the separated knees (cowboying). Many gymnast do it to get a faster rotation. I think that was the only form break, everything else was perfect :)
this routine is totally deserving of it's score. and the people saying that it was under scored should know that this is the highest scoring routine of that quad. besides remember that this is under the old system and not all routines started from a ten. (does anyone know her start value?)
@mistybabe5489 ; I'm sure it's deserving of the score. I just wish I knew where they deducted. To me - a humble, admitted amateur - I would like to know the deductions just to understand. :)
Also -- stop the video at 2:00 and you'll see the start value (SV) was 10.00.
@DC205504 well i'm not a judge but IMO the only flaw i saw was at 0:38, she took an extra step to land that switch ring leap. so i'd give her a 9.9.
plus her score was 9.812 (back then they had dedecutions in .025, today only in 0.1) so that means one of the judges could have given her a perfect ten and the 3 others that were averaged could have given a lower score that would average out to the score she got.
This routine was something special! The Yang Bo jump at 1:05 is probably the smoothest I've seen, as is the entire exercise. It's incredible. I wish I understood judging better - where the heck can they find 0.2 - 0.25 worth of deductions in this routine. In my humble opinion - at its lowest, it's a 9.90; it's worthy of a 10.
@DC205504 Yea, I'm not really sure where the deductions came from. It seemed like she had her legs together on the dismount...which is rare. No real balance checks or form breaks throughout the routine. I think her landing on the switch ring leap was fine...should have gotten a 10. Or at the very least a 9.9, like you said!
This routine in today's COP, yesterday's COP and tomorrow's COP deserves high scoring! It has everything that a beam routine should have and all elements executed well. This girl makes me happy to be a gymnastics fan because there is no doubt that this routine is absolutely amazing. Well deserved gold and gymnasts should take note, splits are supposed to have at least 180 degree leg separation.
What happened in here ? Why people gave out thumb-downs for almost every comment ? What is wrong with russiangymfan's comment that needed to be thumb-down ? What kind of idiot does that ?
Probably because she posts under 15 different names and insults any gymnast that threatens Nastia as the queen of the sport for all time. You would know this because you are another one of her personalities.
Since she has been called out she now write's nice things about some of these gymnasts to throw off what she is doing but you know this because you are her.
You also go around under your 15 plus names thumbs upping every post about you so I think it is hilarious that you are pointing out what YOU YOURSELF do.lol
Stop even trying to be smarty pants, stupid yank. If I had done what you said I did, my second comment won't be with -5, will it ? And my account has more subs, favourites and comment posted than a lot of people including moron like you. How would anybody in the right mind think that this is a back-up account? Your account looks more like a fucking allies. If you don't have anything to say, bite your fucking tongue and get lost, prick.
So does everything you ever write, just get the fuck out of my sight. I am not gonna spend one more second on you pathetic fuck. I am who I am, not some other people. Go back to your cave, kiddo.
Obviously you missed skipped over the part where I wrote 'she could be older'. Maria Filatova and Yelena Davidova also looked very young in their day-and they were 19 and 20 respectively at the 1980 Olympics. I judge NO one-I said if you had read my comments correctly that she LOOKS 13-which she does. It does not follow that she WAS 13 so stop being such an idiot and jumping the gun when someone makes a remark you don't like.
@faeryquene and filatova and daydova's ages weren't faked as well? Duhhhh. Age cheating was rampant in communist countries since it was a government run program and they could print whatever birth certificate they wanted for their athletes. Many ex-soviet and former romainan gymnasts admitted they were underage and now Dong Fangxiao admitted she was also underage when she competed in 2000. It stands to reason Fan ye was underage.
@soapygirl83 Filatova and Davidova unlike other former Soviets have never claimed their ages were changed. And in their day there was no age limit like today-14 and 15 year olds like Nadia and Filatova were at the time could compete at the Olympics in Montreal in 1976. Canada's Karen Kelsall did too and she was 13 years old at those Games.
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17. And that is why people think chinese gymnasts are younger because they look younger even tho that is kinda stupid imo. That is something you can say to a friend, not something you can say or use to judge people's age in formal situation.
This might be the most hit routine ever in a world final - from a gymnast who struggled with inconsistency her whole career. But how many consistent performers ever did something this perfect?
When Chinese do beam, they just look different . They not only perform diffidult moves, they dance on the beam! Chinese show how a balance beam routine can be graceful and beautiful. We gymnastics fans should thank them for their efforts and great work. Russia and Ukraine have produced some beautiful beam workers as well. As a team, China is no doubt the best on this event.
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Well, Cata's routine had more difficult elements; Ye Fan's routine, although beautifully executed, didnt contain any really difficult elements; her leaps and jumps are where she built up her start value, but her dismount isnt classed as difficult anymore. Cata's dismount, on the other hand, was very difficult indeed, a double back with a full twist in the first salto is MUCH harder than a double tuck back.
Ye Fan's dance elements were far more difficult (switch ring, Yang Bo, sheep jump) and although I love Catalina's beam work, Ye Fan had better choreography, arm carriage and overall execution. Had she qualified for the beam final, she would have probably won gold with a routine like that!
I agree with you completely about her artistry being better than Cata's. Her execution of this routine is just breathtaking, but what I meant was that Cata's dismount was more difficult, but you are right about Ye having much more complex dance elements, which is why I said that Ye built up her difficulty with her leaps and jumps:)
I didn't disagree either; Cata had harder acrobatic elements (mostly Ds along with her super-E dismount) and easier dance skills whereas Ye Fan had harder dance elements (D&Es). I really don't understand why you've got so many thumbs down for merely pointing out a fact! ;-D
This said, I'd still give the edge to Ye Fan for being so stunningly gorgeous!
This deserved a ten. It's only because of the stupid scoring system that wouldn't give away tens after '92 that prevented her from getting what she deserved.
okay, i say let the chinease keep dominating- they are the only team as a WHOLE that have kept up that old nadia style artistry that is barley shown today.
Would you call Carly Patterson a one-hit wonder too, then? Her only major individual title was the AA Olympic gold. Fan Ye's inconsistency doesn't take anything away from this routine (easily one of the greatest, if not the greatest ever). Just watch her routine from the 2005 Nationals, which was better considering she had a far more difficult dismount!
The scores at American cups and Natiaonals for the USA do not count because Martha tells the judges to overscore gymnasts. Also the gym can pay to have higher scores.
Yes, I see what you mean; there IS a very slight hesitation but her aerial walkover, back tuck, korbut flip looked perfectly connected to me. She also makes a slight adjustment with her feet after her punch front-sheep jump combination. But what a beautiful routine-her extension and amplitude on her leaps and jumps is just phenomenal!!
I'm not totally sure. I just read somewhere that it was the highest mark earned in international elite competition between 2001 and 2004 - perhaps that just means the Worlds & Olympics.
I really really dont see any form deductions on her routine-she took a tiny shuffle in after her sheep jump, but surely thats not deductible? Every element and skill was PERFECTLY executed. Stunning.
Beautiful gymnast, I just don't like the way she bends her legs after every landing...
pianistofbabylone 3 months ago
@pianistofbabylone I thought it really added a sense of precision to the routine...
rice97rise 1 month ago
"tiny gymnast, big reputation":)
proudpotterfan 4 months ago
anyone saying fan ye's small and too young and so....plz listen!!!!
now she's attending Beijing University and her height is 159cm and 104 pounds. and she still looks the same, maybe just some changes with her hair color and nails. she is dressing like a young girl, no difference from the other chinese girls.
so plz...dont judge someone's age simply by their appearence.
aps010154 8 months ago 4
she was so perfect but she is not 16
noha864 9 months ago
Ah, Fan Ye, your Yang Bo is almost as amazing as the originator's.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 10 months ago 3
she is awesome....wawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.................... brilliant ..i have ever seen sothing like this wawww only this waw
zouzounakiiilol 11 months ago 2
this is as lovely as li ya's routine
Sassiiification 11 months ago
This routine still has a start value of 5.9 in the present Code of Points 2010, it shows how great she is! :)
natalienat518 1 year ago
absolutely beautiful!! her sheep jump was gorgeous!!
LMA629 1 year ago
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where are her boobs?
justinmjb 1 year ago
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where are her boobs?
justinmjb 1 year ago
her armpits are gross
justinmjb 1 year ago
@koobiachiic i think it's Kathy Johnson
bbhouk1 1 year ago
9.812!!
OapostropheC 1 year ago
wish to see her Yang Bo at side angle. It will be even more beautiful than front angle!
By the way the tuck jump with full turn, even it is simple compare to Yang Bo or switch leap to ring, she did it perfectly and beautifully too.
Can;t stop coming back to view this again. lol
Hasoginy 1 year ago
I think the only deduction the judges thought were from the dismount. Not the landing but the separated knees (cowboying). Many gymnast do it to get a faster rotation. I think that was the only form break, everything else was perfect :)
dragonmaster97531 1 year ago
Her sheep jump is so perfect!!!
cyrillim01 1 year ago
perfect
lilypod3 1 year ago
In. Love. With. This.
JTGPCFL 1 year ago
GREAT sheep jump!! :)
complainer101 1 year ago
this routine is totally deserving of it's score. and the people saying that it was under scored should know that this is the highest scoring routine of that quad. besides remember that this is under the old system and not all routines started from a ten. (does anyone know her start value?)
mistybabe5489 1 year ago
@mistybabe5489 ; I'm sure it's deserving of the score. I just wish I knew where they deducted. To me - a humble, admitted amateur - I would like to know the deductions just to understand. :)
Also -- stop the video at 2:00 and you'll see the start value (SV) was 10.00.
DC205504 1 year ago
@DC205504 well i'm not a judge but IMO the only flaw i saw was at 0:38, she took an extra step to land that switch ring leap. so i'd give her a 9.9.
plus her score was 9.812 (back then they had dedecutions in .025, today only in 0.1) so that means one of the judges could have given her a perfect ten and the 3 others that were averaged could have given a lower score that would average out to the score she got.
ex. 10+9.8+9.75+9.7 = 39.25/4 = 9.8125
hope this helps
mistybabe5489 1 year ago
This routine was something special! The Yang Bo jump at 1:05 is probably the smoothest I've seen, as is the entire exercise. It's incredible. I wish I understood judging better - where the heck can they find 0.2 - 0.25 worth of deductions in this routine. In my humble opinion - at its lowest, it's a 9.90; it's worthy of a 10.
DC205504 1 year ago
@DC205504 Yea, I'm not really sure where the deductions came from. It seemed like she had her legs together on the dismount...which is rare. No real balance checks or form breaks throughout the routine. I think her landing on the switch ring leap was fine...should have gotten a 10. Or at the very least a 9.9, like you said!
Tribute2the80s 1 year ago
@koobiachiic Seriously? This is 2003. She would have been 13.
QueenieQue 1 year ago
I always think this is underscored. I can't find a deduction.
7Millionaire7 2 years ago 3
Beautiful..
morenodelaorilla 2 years ago
This routine in today's COP, yesterday's COP and tomorrow's COP deserves high scoring! It has everything that a beam routine should have and all elements executed well. This girl makes me happy to be a gymnastics fan because there is no doubt that this routine is absolutely amazing. Well deserved gold and gymnasts should take note, splits are supposed to have at least 180 degree leg separation.
islaandman 2 years ago 19
LOL, a super E is definitely NOT a requirement to get a 10.0
EdGringo78 2 years ago
Yes, there was a E level Skill, the Switch Jump into Ring, where at 0:36-0:38,
a truely qulified E level skill. That was Super ennough.
richiefaye 2 years ago
shame she fell in 2004 olympics. that was SO BEAUTIFUL.
and she's SO SKINNY.
babylishee 2 years ago
What happened in here ? Why people gave out thumb-downs for almost every comment ? What is wrong with russiangymfan's comment that needed to be thumb-down ? What kind of idiot does that ?
NasDa 2 years ago
Ya, it seems like someone is drunk when giving the votes or that person has some grudge over something.
Hasoginy 2 years ago
I wouldn't put it past her to vote herself down on purpose for attention. She does everything FDA said she does above.
The only sad and pathetic person is RussianSkating fan.
GymTruthTeller 2 years ago
Probably because she posts under 15 different names and insults any gymnast that threatens Nastia as the queen of the sport for all time. You would know this because you are another one of her personalities.
Since she has been called out she now write's nice things about some of these gymnasts to throw off what she is doing but you know this because you are her.
FireDannyAinge 2 years ago 3
You also go around under your 15 plus names thumbs upping every post about you so I think it is hilarious that you are pointing out what YOU YOURSELF do.lol
FireDannyAinge 2 years ago
Stop even trying to be smarty pants, stupid yank. If I had done what you said I did, my second comment won't be with -5, will it ? And my account has more subs, favourites and comment posted than a lot of people including moron like you. How would anybody in the right mind think that this is a back-up account? Your account looks more like a fucking allies. If you don't have anything to say, bite your fucking tongue and get lost, prick.
NasDa 2 years ago
Don't act tough with me.lol You are russianskating fan and your outburst proves it.
Your entire rant was so poorly written it made little sense. You need a fucking shrink.
FireDannyAinge 2 years ago
So does everything you ever write, just get the fuck out of my sight. I am not gonna spend one more second on you pathetic fuck. I am who I am, not some other people. Go back to your cave, kiddo.
NasDa 2 years ago
LMAO. You really need some help of the therapist kind.
FireDannyAinge 2 years ago
wow! AMAZING
Josefinemariell 2 years ago
awesome
AAProductionsx 2 years ago
Woah...how old is she? She looks so young.
Paraiah 2 years ago 4
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Who knows? She looks about 13 to me but she could be older.
faeryquene 2 years ago
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She was born in1986 so she was 17 at the time. You see ? Judging somebody's age by their look is stupid, isn't it ?
NasDa 2 years ago
Obviously you missed skipped over the part where I wrote 'she could be older'. Maria Filatova and Yelena Davidova also looked very young in their day-and they were 19 and 20 respectively at the 1980 Olympics. I judge NO one-I said if you had read my comments correctly that she LOOKS 13-which she does. It does not follow that she WAS 13 so stop being such an idiot and jumping the gun when someone makes a remark you don't like.
faeryquene 2 years ago 22
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yo man, just calm down, would you ? My comment wasn't referred to you. I was only making a point since you brought that up.
NasDa 2 years ago
LOL faeryquene!! I'm totally with you on that point!!
EdGringo78 2 years ago
@faeryquene she doesn't look 13 she looks 10!!!
sochisochi 1 year ago 2
@faeryquene and filatova and daydova's ages weren't faked as well? Duhhhh. Age cheating was rampant in communist countries since it was a government run program and they could print whatever birth certificate they wanted for their athletes. Many ex-soviet and former romainan gymnasts admitted they were underage and now Dong Fangxiao admitted she was also underage when she competed in 2000. It stands to reason Fan ye was underage.
soapygirl83 1 year ago
@soapygirl83 Filatova and Davidova unlike other former Soviets have never claimed their ages were changed. And in their day there was no age limit like today-14 and 15 year olds like Nadia and Filatova were at the time could compete at the Olympics in Montreal in 1976. Canada's Karen Kelsall did too and she was 13 years old at those Games.
faeryquene 1 year ago
@faeryquene
actually the age limit was you had to be 14 before the start of the games
Karen Kellsall's country requested a special allowance for her because she would turn 14 before the end of year, and it was accepted.
bbhouk1 1 year ago
@bbhouk1 True-but she was allowed to compete and within the rules with the exception.
faeryquene 1 year ago
@faeryquene
yeah i know. just wanted to point that out
bbhouk1 1 year ago
@faeryquene yeah except that when you say she looks thirteen, you're kinda implying that she 'might' be thirteen... just sayin...
rsageeth 1 month ago
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17. And that is why people think chinese gymnasts are younger because they look younger even tho that is kinda stupid imo. That is something you can say to a friend, not something you can say or use to judge people's age in formal situation.
NasDa 2 years ago
This might be the most hit routine ever in a world final - from a gymnast who struggled with inconsistency her whole career. But how many consistent performers ever did something this perfect?
Her beam is like a 21st-century Olga Mostepanova.
Mariafication 2 years ago
i think kui's routine in 97 is more difficult than this, but execution of this routine is perfect, i would give it a 10
liweiwei2008 2 years ago
How about Shannon Miller, Daniela Silivas, Dina Kochetkova, Nadia Comaneci?
EdGringo78 2 years ago
she is in the final and won the gold
liweiwei2008 2 years ago
When Chinese do beam, they just look different . They not only perform diffidult moves, they dance on the beam! Chinese show how a balance beam routine can be graceful and beautiful. We gymnastics fans should thank them for their efforts and great work. Russia and Ukraine have produced some beautiful beam workers as well. As a team, China is no doubt the best on this event.
russiangymfan 2 years ago
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i love her=) <3
i wish she can train up to this level again, but, anyways great gymnast
agathayy 2 years ago
What is considered her tumbling series?
Summonearth 2 years ago
there's a DCB
yueshili 2 years ago
What does DCB mean?
Summonearth 2 years ago
her front aerial-> back tuck-> back handspring swingdown. It was a DCB combination in terms of their respecitve difficult values in COP
judeluo 2 years ago
with a sleep jump, a Yang Bo and a switch ring, very competitive for the 09 new code.
yueshili 2 years ago
what the hell is a sleep jump? u mean sheep jump?
jrotc1991 2 years ago
...sorry, 4 weeks ago, i got too excited.
yueshili 2 years ago
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Well, Cata's routine had more difficult elements; Ye Fan's routine, although beautifully executed, didnt contain any really difficult elements; her leaps and jumps are where she built up her start value, but her dismount isnt classed as difficult anymore. Cata's dismount, on the other hand, was very difficult indeed, a double back with a full twist in the first salto is MUCH harder than a double tuck back.
ralucagymnast 2 years ago
Ye Fan's dance elements were far more difficult (switch ring, Yang Bo, sheep jump) and although I love Catalina's beam work, Ye Fan had better choreography, arm carriage and overall execution. Had she qualified for the beam final, she would have probably won gold with a routine like that!
AnnaPavlovaFan 2 years ago 2
I agree with you completely about her artistry being better than Cata's. Her execution of this routine is just breathtaking, but what I meant was that Cata's dismount was more difficult, but you are right about Ye having much more complex dance elements, which is why I said that Ye built up her difficulty with her leaps and jumps:)
ralucagymnast 2 years ago
I didn't disagree either; Cata had harder acrobatic elements (mostly Ds along with her super-E dismount) and easier dance skills whereas Ye Fan had harder dance elements (D&Es). I really don't understand why you've got so many thumbs down for merely pointing out a fact! ;-D
This said, I'd still give the edge to Ye Fan for being so stunningly gorgeous!
AnnaPavlovaFan 2 years ago 2
I won't give you any thumbs down!! This is your opinion and you have every right to express it!!
EdGringo78 2 years ago
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SM90410 2 years ago
This deserved a ten. It's only because of the stupid scoring system that wouldn't give away tens after '92 that prevented her from getting what she deserved.
QueenieQue 2 years ago
Was it possible to have 10 under this code of points?
verybadtongue 3 years ago
I love to watch Chinese routines in slow motion. They pay such great attentions to details and they never stop seeking perfection.
chinatheatre 3 years ago
Yes,I agree with you. Only do perfect routines can the Chinese girls get gold due to the judges are strict to them!
xuhu9 3 years ago
The American Cup is not an international competition, so the scores are often inflated. Just like the Nationals.
AnnaPavlovaFan 3 years ago
this is how the beam should be worked!
saradenise04 3 years ago
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I would have liked to see her as the Olympic Champion on beam :(
pampl3m0usse 3 years ago
10!
icarrus4u 3 years ago
omg that should have been a 9.96!! (thats what i would have given it =]])
absolutly beautiful routine. i wish that gymnasts today would show this kind of artistry and flexibility!
iLoveMyiPod2008 3 years ago
okay, i say let the chinease keep dominating- they are the only team as a WHOLE that have kept up that old nadia style artistry that is barley shown today.
eMthegymnast 3 years ago
Would you call Carly Patterson a one-hit wonder too, then? Her only major individual title was the AA Olympic gold. Fan Ye's inconsistency doesn't take anything away from this routine (easily one of the greatest, if not the greatest ever). Just watch her routine from the 2005 Nationals, which was better considering she had a far more difficult dismount!
AnnaPavlovaFan 3 years ago
Why are Chinese often underscored? Is it because they don't have enough representation in FIG? Or is it because there are not many Chinese judges?
chinatheatre 3 years ago
Yes, they're uderscored all the time. What a shame!
xuhu9 3 years ago
Gosh, compare Liukin's sheep jump with this video. It's shocking that Liukin was even in the final.
imcaffeine 3 years ago
In the 03 beam final? Yeah, shocking. :)
QuittersTry 3 years ago
How perfect,the perfect sheep jump.
wangquanquan 3 years ago
I would give this 9.900.
BCONTRAT 3 years ago 8
Has there been any beam routine that's more beautiful than this one in recent times?
I've been watching it for four years and I just can't get tired of it.
FaerieDevilish 4 years ago
love the korbut flip ..nice
DaganVickers 4 years ago 2
So solid, gosh
Well, in the antique Code it could be a 10.0
I guess the judges didn't like Chinese, because it was near perfect, and deserved a 10.0
Comaneci's first 10.0 on UB wasn't with a completly perfect routine either.
nikirififo 4 years ago 6
The 2001-2005 made it impossible for any gymnast to score a 10.00, but this routine was as perfect as it gets. A perfect 10.00 hands down!
Darkangel127 3 years ago 29
This is the best beam routine!!
molly2222 4 years ago
The scores at American cups and Natiaonals for the USA do not count because Martha tells the judges to overscore gymnasts. Also the gym can pay to have higher scores.
smiFromBelarus 4 years ago
pay to have higher scores are u serioius? wat do the coaches not have enough faith in their gymnasts?
gw2012ogm 4 years ago
i think that is the best routine y never see on beam, awesome and perfect
nonobabum 4 years ago
the deductions are that almost every connection is not directly made.
x20xRachx06x 4 years ago 4
Yes, I see what you mean; there IS a very slight hesitation but her aerial walkover, back tuck, korbut flip looked perfectly connected to me. She also makes a slight adjustment with her feet after her punch front-sheep jump combination. But what a beautiful routine-her extension and amplitude on her leaps and jumps is just phenomenal!!
ralucagymnast 4 years ago
I'm not totally sure. I just read somewhere that it was the highest mark earned in international elite competition between 2001 and 2004 - perhaps that just means the Worlds & Olympics.
fruityliciousrhubarb 4 years ago
Its any World Cup, World Championships, or Olympic Games.
Penguin888 4 years ago
did she win
aussiechocy 5 years ago
Yes she did. And it was the highest score obtained by a woman in a major international event during the 2001 - 2004 era.
fruityliciousrhubarb 5 years ago
The scores at Am cup are always a bit high for the american girls.
KajaRG 4 years ago 6
I don't really see any deductions either, but 9.812 was a huge score during the 2001-2004 period.
fruityliciousrhubarb 5 years ago
Yeah you would have to go over this routine with a fine tooth comb to find mistakes. Judges could have given her a ten.
soapygirl83 4 years ago 2
she totally deserved it
scatteam2 5 years ago
I really really dont see any form deductions on her routine-she took a tiny shuffle in after her sheep jump, but surely thats not deductible? Every element and skill was PERFECTLY executed. Stunning.
ralucagymnast 5 years ago