Chess Strategy- Open vs Closed Games

[SirWreckNTexan]

I've always wondered why the white light squared bishop has been more "important" of the two, is it because the black king resides on the light squares, even after he castles? That seems the most logical.

[clayj17]

white could have moved ba3 to get some good from the bishop trade in first example



[Busterbeam]

the older video had worse sound quality than this? you need to sort your mic out! thanks for the videos though. learning a lot.

[NationalMan]

what's the difference between an open game and a closed game?

[drugraham]

i often look for vids for chess strategies to try out on people who i know i can beat lol but if they are worthy i go all napoleon bonaparte strategy on them and whop them lol i love chess

[SkyFortStudios]

I fucking love chess.

[timmeh231]

Your videos are so awesome!

[sentinel12456]

in the second example, when the bishop moved to b5, cant the rook pin the bishop to the rook by moving to b8?

[iTzNoxy]

this video is pretty quiet compared to your other ones

[borutpeterlin]

Hey, bishop can escape to f5 and then if a pawn is captured on c2 even better for a white, it can really develop his attack, isn't?

[utter0forever]

he is agood guy but his voice very suck

[TheIkarus93]

@utter0forever you are a good guy too but your english very suck

[Fryeza]

Hi, Does anyone know what chess program is used on these videos?

[hizay]

I'm deadly with the bishops, I use them well next to the knights.

[bluedasher23]

Thx for that! I feel so accomplished... I got both examples right. These interactive videos where you ask the viewer to come up with the best move are very beneficial, it lets me know I'm on the right track :)

Thanks so much!

[zduracel77]

I got the second one right. I'm so proud of myself.

[Tural192]

thanx

[IRonanN1I]

Thanks. I'm gonna try that out today :D

[TehNewSoars]

i got both answers right lol xD i lovemyself

[tufosanta]

in the 2bd example honestly i think Rb7 followed by Reb1 takin over the b file would be alot better! gj on the videos tho

[dr09294]

im a noob at chess so if any can answer this question feel free.. if a pawn gets promoted when it reaches the other side of the board, can a player chose for it to be a piece that is already on the board? for example a queen when that player's queen is still in game on the board?

[sk8freaker]

@dr09294 Sure. You can get as many queens as you have pawns (but that wont happen xD)

[Firesword8]

Couldn't the black knight go to e5 on the 1st example?

[gmailsenna]

Love these videos, by the way. I'm learning a lot from them.

[gmailsenna]

I'm only a novice, I'm struggling to see how trading that bishop, sitting on good open diagonals is worth trading for the knight. It would seem to limit possibilities rather than open them.... Guess that's why I lose so often!

[mielord21]

this is so very very important lesson.... it can make or break you when this situation comes... you need to decide perfectly in order to gain some advantage...

[Kold2market]

You got these 2 examples from: Chessmaster 10th Edition - Josh Waitzkin....

[thechesswebsite]

@Kold2market hopefully you get that I'm just trying to teach chess. If I go over a famous game or look at a specific position that you may have seen somewhere, I'm sorry. I'm just trying to teach chess. I've actually seen this position posted in other places and to be honest the 2nd position is different than CM 10th edition. Some positions in chess I think can never be covered too much. Hopefully you still learned something.

[cocopuff239]

1. d4 g6 2. c4 Nf6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. b3 Bg4 6. Qd2 Nc6 7. f3 Nxe4 8. fxe4 Bxd4 9. Bb2 O-O 10. h3 f5 11. hxg4 fxe4 12. a3 e3 13. Qd3 e2 14. Bxe2 Nb4 15. axb4 Bf2+ 16. Kd2 e6 17. Nf3 Bb6 18. g5 Rxf3 19. gxf3 Qxg5+ 20. Kc2 Qf4 21. Qe4 Qf5 22. Qxf5 exf5 23. Rhd1 Re8 24. Na4 Rxe2+ 25. Rd2 Rxd2+ 26. Kxd2 Bf2 27. c5 Kf7 28. cxd6 cxd6 29. Ke2 Bg3 30. Bd4 Be5 31. Bxe5 dxe5 32. Nc5 e4 33. Nxb7 exf3+ 34. Kxf3 h5

this opening i made it up with your help thx for the vids

isnt it a good one =]?

[cocopuff239]

@cocopuff239 actualy i looked it up and i found out this is the kings indian defence but my twist on it heres the rest

35. Rxa7 h4 36. Nc5+ Kf6 37. Nd3 g5 38. Ra8 g4+ 39. Kg2 h3+ 40. Kg1 Kg5 41. Nf2 Kf4 42. Rf8 Ke5 43. b5 Kf4 44. b6 Kg3 45. b7 h2+ 46. Kf1 f4 47. b8=Q h1=Q+ 48. Nxh1+ Kf3 49. Qxf4#

[SilverNSoviet]

@cocopuff239 You made an opening? Opening aren't 'made'...

[lovedarli]

Not that great of an example for a closed game. In that instance, bishops would be more valuable than knights(in my opinion). The knights were pretty much useless where they were. Other than the knight you took, they were doing less than the bishops. Of course, that would still be the best move as it opens up a possible route for the rook later on, the game would most likely just open up eventually. Good video though! :D

[avarus3]

@lovedarli This is quite a good example of a closed position. It does have the double effect of having a bad bishop - good knight scenario in the closed position but the truth is that those positions amplify the knight's dominance over the bad (on the same color as the own pawns) bishop. Don't only think where the knight is, think where the knight is going to. This a2-knight has more potential to attach the enemy pawns than the dark-squared bishop.

[EstoyLigado]

I really like to improve my game on tactics and I found this video informative.

Thank you!

[ASFMANUTD]

thanks

[adhdboy699]

I've been studying chess for 3 months and managed to get both of those right of the top of my head i am feeling pretty proud of myself =)

[ProfetTommy]

Thank you thechesswebsite.

[speedproductions797]

Wow, that's incredible!!!

[vanderguru]

i have a question

when the knight attacks the bishop in the open position, cant white just play bishop to f5 and if black takes with pawn then white can capture blacks dark square bishop on e7 with the since it's unprotected. in this variation black ends up with an isolated queenspawn. am i missing something? thx

[vijaysuri]

@vanderguru

there are couple reasons why it is a bad choice..

1)after the queen captures the dark square bishop the light square bishop can take the knight on f3....then there are doubled f pawns...

2)instead of capturing the white bishop with e pawn black could just play Bd6(dark square bishop)...now the white bishop is under threat and black is forced to move it loosing a move...and also the h pawn will be lost subsequently...

[carlos36608]

I really appreciate you showing us all different strategies and movements. Some guys charge a lot of money for these types of instructions. - Have a nice day.

[flinagin]

@Tracer1808 Lol man that was the most fail English yet..what the hell is "a stupid"...i mean stupid isn't a noun...lol...

I WILL enjoy my victory, in fact I'm gonna go celebrate. Thanks..

[flinagin]

@Tracer1808 Does that mean you admit defeat!?!?

I put a lot of effort into that response, thanks for realizing my cleverness.

[flinagin]

@Tracer1808 persistent* (there is a spell check on Youtube you know =P) . This is a new one, giving someone shit about actually spelling properly lol. Just to keep this going, ummm...

yo face es uglay!

[flinagin]

@Tracer1808 You better be, I'm do things you never thought were possible to your hand.

[flinagin]

@Tracer1808 Loloolo just as i think I've had enough of you, you come up with "Talk to the hand"!, that's hilarious, hahahaha. I would do more then talk your hand, better be careful what you ask for.

[flinagin]

@Tracer1808 I've had enough of you, you're not clever enough.

[flinagin]

@Tracer1808 Go work on your English (and you Chess), and your logic.

[flinagin]

@flinagin It was obviously a typo you 'tard, not a lack of intelligence so why even bring up something so stupid up, oh wait i know, because you're out of terrible responses so you've resorted to absolutely ridiculously terrible responses, haha ok then, keep going, I'm interested to read your next comment.

[flinagin]

@Tracer1808 Lol it's so funny that you keep on responding kid. You make me laugh (at you).

[flinagin]

@Tracer1808 You could be a comedian lol.

[flinagin]

@Tracer1808 What a clever response, nice work...lol.

[flinagin]

@Tracer1808 Hahaha, man you sound like a child, shush.

[flinagin]

@Tracer1808 You sound like an idiot lol, gw.

[bnjmnNC]

@Tracer1808: amateur.

[IDoThink1]

Hello, I agree with your lecture, however in your final example, I prefer penetrating with the rooks through Rb7 or Rb5 instead off trading the bishop for the knight

[thechesswebsite]

not my intent I assure you. For different examples in chess I try to find great examples that display what I'm trying to go over. I'm sorry if you have already seen the example. I'm really just trying to teach people chess, nothing more.

[Zelrio28]

Games can only grow more open. That is why I value bishops more than knights.

[okuno54]

@Zelrio28 Incorrect. In fact, it is possible to close a game so much that neither player may make any attack. This is called impasse and results in a draw.

[GPNick]

i have a question and im a fish when it comes to chess. at 5:00 the move is bishop to b5 since knights are better.

but can you win it from there or soon after with that set up save it turning into an open game and you having no bishops??

[thechesswebsite]

@GPNick yeah if you have no bishops and it's an open game you are hopeless but if you had the choice you'd def want to have them.

[fogfrogblog]

@GPNick I don't think that you are a fish when you even know what the word fish means in the chess world

[RoyalDevil3]

great video! keep it up

[khosrow]

great lesson!

[lsefia]

Very nice and clear video

[crackerjack113]

great video!

so does this mean that a player with a bishop pair should try to open things up and a player who traded off his bishops should keep things closed?

[thechesswebsite]

@crackerjack113 that's exactly correct

[Dragonite43]

@thechesswebsite So a semi-open game is where both bishop and knights do well in I can assume.

[tangledwithchains]

hey.can you add me please? or ill send you a friend request.i did subscribe.but the problem is that i am decently good at chess but,however,i keep on losing.and i dont know why.i just look at the pieces and make a few sacrifices.please help me? thank you SO much if you can.

[77m7p77]

helpful video, thanks

[lamechivanes]

These videos are stellar Kevin. I'd say I'm on the edge between beginner and intermediate, and these are helping my game immensely.

[TheChessvids]

Good video Kevin, you explain what you're saying very well and there is no dispute as to the "correctness" of what you're saying.

[thechesswebsite]

thank you for the kind words