It actually took me a bit to figure out to use the psycho wand to neutralize night mare, cuz I remember seeing the description that it neutralizes barrier, so I figured I'd try it
this magic is actually a tribute to the past, its only played when you face boss's from the old versions. both Zio (or Generation of dooms Darkforce) or Lasute
wren in this game is the same wren from ps3 because at the end of ps3 they landed on a planet in algo and his age is at 998 which dark force is suppose to come every 1,000 years but because of parma missing as part of the key keeping PD away it let dark force come in early and more often
@petermca its 2 different wrens. in ps3 "true" ending when u beat da game with aron, alisa 3 goes thru a blackhole back in time then crashes on Earth's moon. every1 on the spaceship dies. aron ending is da only ending that makes any kind of sense when putting all the phantasy stars together
when i first fought Zio , iwas like omg the game will end now :( this game is so cool that i was afraid that it will end to fast ) XD ....this game is like 20/5 in my opinion
it was hard to beat him, after 2 day...i did found how to remove his magic barrier, i just must use the psycho wand to zio, and his barrier was neutralized and i attack him any powerful attack, double slash/claw, crosscut and other attack, and i did beat it ^_^
I'm not sure about the ID I got this on sonic's ultimate genesis collection and it doesn't have the manuals and I read about wrens two japanese names on the internet
I used to own the strategy guide, and it had a footnote about it.
They were both made at the same time, since PS3 and PS4 take place at the same time and they're both from the last cycle. But since one is on a Parma/Palm/Palma colony headed who-knows-where and the other is still in Algo, they're obviously not the same bot.
Zio was the first bad ass dark magic boss before Magus on Chrono Trigger. When facing Zio, is that the only time this boss music is played in the game?
Yes I remember that very well, where Dark Force, AKA Falz, says that, it was evil, infact he/it was another of my fav villians because of his evil nature, plus the design on him was brilliant, it was like if it was a nightmare that came to life.
You know when a game is great - when a super vilan is remembered - like ZIO!! he is awesome! The only villans that i remember are Zio, Shiva ( from streets of rage ) , and Sephiroth ( from final fantasy ) . Zio rules, and so does his evil music :)
I know what your saying, Zio is far one of the best villans in the game, although I did like Lassric aswell, I think I spelt his name right, but Zio will always be my fav villan.
I defeated him with the party at 13-15 yesterday. Rune is invincible against that fool, especially when he has two shields. Man, I feel stupid after all these years of leveling up in a desperate attempt to get Sar. Don't even need that for a while.
yeah, but they end up really vulnerable to any kind of attack. What I did one time was give Rune two shields and train him alone (with Chaz and Rika dead) after this battle but before meeting Wren... In this same installation are all the experience points you can ask for and death attacks are so rare that is worth to take the risk. Doing that transforms Rune in to the Ultimate Badass.
Black Wave just does a ton of damage (about 100, I think). I heard somewhere that it will be a one-hit kill if you don't use the psycho-wand, but there's no reason not to use it anyway so I'm not sure if that's true or not.
i managed to beat zio tonight, i went into battle realizing that rika didnt have sar yet my first thought was oh sh*t, but i managed to win with everyone alive was an interesting fight tho lol
@FFL2and3rocks It's true. The first time I battled Zio I didn't know I had to use the Psycho-Wand as an item and got killed by him in a few turns, due to him firing many Black Waves at me, each being a one-hit-kill.
@FFL2and3rocks It is a one hit killing spell without using the Psycho Wand. But yes, since you can't even hurt Zio without using the Psycho Wand, it's really useless to find that out - except to note that it was a pretty cool way of showing that if you didn't use the wand he would own your party, no questions asked.
Kefka's final boss theme aside, this is the greatest boss theme in history. So fucking good!
ohmysweetnurse 3 months ago
I love that background music and Zio is rock.
monkeyboyrulz 4 months ago
@ every1 who thinks nightmare is an attack booster
you are wrong. nightmare is how zio can use his magic (black wave)
streamer730 8 months ago
It actually took me a bit to figure out to use the psycho wand to neutralize night mare, cuz I remember seeing the description that it neutralizes barrier, so I figured I'd try it
princedarienlover 8 months ago
make a macro of rune and chaz like zan and gifoi/giwat
shadmart 10 months ago
this magic is actually a tribute to the past, its only played when you face boss's from the old versions. both Zio (or Generation of dooms Darkforce) or Lasute
Draxsiss 1 year ago
this game got some good music :D
Dharkification 1 year ago
I wish there wz rpgs like this coming out......great graphics does not make a great game
kishaba1980 1 year ago
wren in this game is the same wren from ps3 because at the end of ps3 they landed on a planet in algo and his age is at 998 which dark force is suppose to come every 1,000 years but because of parma missing as part of the key keeping PD away it let dark force come in early and more often
petermca 1 year ago
@petermca its 2 different wrens. in ps3 "true" ending when u beat da game with aron, alisa 3 goes thru a blackhole back in time then crashes on Earth's moon. every1 on the spaceship dies. aron ending is da only ending that makes any kind of sense when putting all the phantasy stars together
davidterrell 1 year ago
when i first fought Zio , iwas like omg the game will end now :( this game is so cool that i was afraid that it will end to fast ) XD ....this game is like 20/5 in my opinion
Zidane302 1 year ago
it was hard to beat him, after 2 day...i did found how to remove his magic barrier, i just must use the psycho wand to zio, and his barrier was neutralized and i attack him any powerful attack, double slash/claw, crosscut and other attack, and i did beat it ^_^
benberth5234 2 years ago
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This is great music.
lukewarm25 2 years ago
how is zio scary he,s just hard to kill
ryuhabussa919 2 years ago
on my file rune is the weakest carecter
ryuhabussa919 2 years ago
woww, first time i did this area i cleared the entire place. Didnt see the zio popping up out of no where coming and i got owned D:
sirleeroy1 2 years ago
I must say this is one of all time great boss music
tehkao 3 years ago
Wasn't it 2000 years? Come on, he wasn't even immortal, he was dead and revived after A PLANET WAS BLOWN TO PIECES!
Yeah, DF/PDF is so cool that they found the only human capable of that much hate and res'd him ^_^
I wish they could make a sequel, still... if they can bring back Lassic/Lashiec, they could CERTAINLY bring back Zio!
Aitamen 3 years ago
ZIO > SEPHIROTH
Aitamen 3 years ago
Zio has even more style than sephiroth
NebilimXYZ 3 years ago
Zio fucking rules.
athropos 3 years ago
chaz: ALYYYSS!! NOOOOO! rika: WAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!
masterkill107 3 years ago
Rika isn't in Phantasy Star 3, you must be thinking of Mieu. And the Wren in Phantasy Star 3 is not the same one from this game.
FFL2and3rocks 3 years ago
They're both Foren though, and their IDs are about the same, iirc.
Aitamen 3 years ago
in japan ones called forren and ones and called serren
Mattrules64 2 years ago
I thought they were both Ren-units, though? different models, same ID?
I could be wrong, I don't have the book for PS4 anymore, otherwise I'd check, heh
Aitamen 2 years ago
I'm not sure about the ID I got this on sonic's ultimate genesis collection and it doesn't have the manuals and I read about wrens two japanese names on the internet
Mattrules64 2 years ago
I used to own the strategy guide, and it had a footnote about it.
They were both made at the same time, since PS3 and PS4 take place at the same time and they're both from the last cycle. But since one is on a Parma/Palm/Palma colony headed who-knows-where and the other is still in Algo, they're obviously not the same bot.
Aitamen 2 years ago
the problem is PS3 had 4 endings one of them could be canon
Mattrules64 2 years ago
there's a reason there wasn't another in that chain until PSO, heh.
But the starting point is the same, so everything is still truth in my post.
Aitamen 2 years ago
agreed
Mattrules64 2 years ago
Zio was the first bad ass dark magic boss before Magus on Chrono Trigger. When facing Zio, is that the only time this boss music is played in the game?
JuneLinMilliam 3 years ago
It's also played when you fight Lashiec.
FFL2and3rocks 3 years ago
Yes I remember that very well, where Dark Force, AKA Falz, says that, it was evil, infact he/it was another of my fav villians because of his evil nature, plus the design on him was brilliant, it was like if it was a nightmare that came to life.
fireballstardraco 4 years ago
You know when a game is great - when a super vilan is remembered - like ZIO!! he is awesome! The only villans that i remember are Zio, Shiva ( from streets of rage ) , and Sephiroth ( from final fantasy ) . Zio rules, and so does his evil music :)
GloomRevived 4 years ago
I know what your saying, Zio is far one of the best villans in the game, although I did like Lassric aswell, I think I spelt his name right, but Zio will always be my fav villan.
fireballstardraco 4 years ago
i can remember a few
Lassic-PS or Lashiec-PSIV
Dark Falz/Force-All
Neifirst-PSII
Mother Brain-PSII
Rulakir-PSIII
Zio-PSIV
if i missed any of them somebody tell me ok
RPGFan28 3 years ago
It's never old when Zio summons Dark Force...EVERY TIME it's intimidating to me, no matter how leveled up I am -_-
maxpeg 4 years ago
Gryz got his revenge in the end of that one.
millgiass 4 years ago
try using combination attacks, such as giwat and zan=blizzard
InfernalReaper25 4 years ago
I always liked some of the music of the phantasy star series. This one is good, also the combat music from Phantasy Star 2
motormouthfrenchie 4 years ago
Nightmare is not useless, it increases the attack power.
You should try to defeat Zio with your party at leve 15-17, it gets really exciting xD
Zagardal 4 years ago
I defeated him with the party at 13-15 yesterday. Rune is invincible against that fool, especially when he has two shields. Man, I feel stupid after all these years of leveling up in a desperate attempt to get Sar. Don't even need that for a while.
HiryuuDaisuke 4 years ago
That's something I try not to do too often, give two shields to spellcasters, the game get's pretty easy.
Zagardal 3 years ago
if a spellcaster get a rod theire magick attack goes up
darien1989 3 years ago
yeah, but they end up really vulnerable to any kind of attack. What I did one time was give Rune two shields and train him alone (with Chaz and Rika dead) after this battle but before meeting Wren... In this same installation are all the experience points you can ask for and death attacks are so rare that is worth to take the risk. Doing that transforms Rune in to the Ultimate Badass.
Zagardal 3 years ago
OMG!!!You finished the fight with everyone still alive!When I finished the fight Only rune(Maybe demi) was alive.
odayuku 4 years ago
wow even though u use the pshco wand his black wave can still do damage. And that schmuk killed Alys.
banana360 4 years ago
best boss in the game
silverfox799 4 years ago
Black Wave just does a ton of damage (about 100, I think). I heard somewhere that it will be a one-hit kill if you don't use the psycho-wand, but there's no reason not to use it anyway so I'm not sure if that's true or not.
FFL2and3rocks 4 years ago
i managed to beat zio tonight, i went into battle realizing that rika didnt have sar yet my first thought was oh sh*t, but i managed to win with everyone alive was an interesting fight tho lol
Gabrieloakk 4 years ago
@FFL2and3rocks It's true. The first time I battled Zio I didn't know I had to use the Psycho-Wand as an item and got killed by him in a few turns, due to him firing many Black Waves at me, each being a one-hit-kill.
Oh wait... 3-year-old comment.
RPGHacker86 1 year ago
@FFL2and3rocks It is a one hit killing spell without using the Psycho Wand. But yes, since you can't even hurt Zio without using the Psycho Wand, it's really useless to find that out - except to note that it was a pretty cool way of showing that if you didn't use the wand he would own your party, no questions asked.
DigitalOberon 4 months ago
Zios Nightmare Move is useless,isnt it?
andreasruscha 4 years ago
love his boss music
finalfantasyrules222 4 years ago 3
i am with u
tokaro 1 year ago
One of my fav bosses ^_^
crackwhore2007 4 years ago