Nonsense, capitalized health does not lead to fair prices for all, just look at the usa. It's not perfect, but I know that if I cut off a few fingers at work, I won't have to choose which ones (if any) to get reattached based on how much the op would cost
For all my fellow englishmen i know we all love having free healthcare but in reality its paid for by tax. If we allowed health care to run privately two things would occure. 1. We would ALL pay lower taxes 2. free market capitalism would result in healthcare being affordable due to there being competition for prices. Government makes things expensive with there intervention as no private company could compete against government.
Anyone who has had the misfortune to use the NHS will tell you the same(if they're being honest).It's awful.The staff treat you like they treat an unwelcome beggar,the wards are like some Soviet era shitlhole.It's a classic example of a state monopoly,bureacratic,inefficient and run by self serving unsympathetic staff.To all the Labour drones out there,wake up ffs,your sacred cow needs to be killed and reincarnated in the image of the modern and effective health care systems of the world.
@MrGilles1990 My life was saved by the NHS, I don't see where the Irony is so please enlighten me.
I live in Ireland which has a health service similar to the US, it is 2 tier, private hospitals and public hospitals where unemployed or low income people go.
Basically it is a 3rd world health service compared to the NHS.
Could this man fuck off to America or something? I'm generally a free marketer on most issues with a limited span of control over a lot of issues, but as soon as limited Government means that people are bankrupted for not being able to pay for Insurance, then it can go fuck itself.
There are more things to life than money, there is something called Empathy towards your fellow human beings regardless of their financial status, it's called giving people a second chance.
@TheAsymmetrical By the way, if you don't think extending some common decency to those whom otherwise would not have health insurance, you should start thinking of the tax you pay towards Medicare or the NHS as a "Bastard Tax"
@MrGilles1990 but they still have a public system which operates in a tandem act as it were with the private system (which as you know is heavily regulated)
I want him to have pancreatic cancer and be on an NHS waiting list in a some run down dirty hospital which has been refused money because they've not hit the "targets" set by the government... where he writhes in agony until his last breath, with no oxygen...
LOL look at all the socialists crying about this video. You aren't ENTITLED to someone providing you with a service, i.e medical care. It is like socialising food. If you eat little you end up paying more for people that eat a lot. Utter stupidity.
You people are idiots......Daniel Hannan isn't criticising a national healthcare system....What he is criticising is the structure of the NHS and he is right to do so. It doesn't work. What Hannan wants to do is restructure its funding.
All you need to know is this......The NHS services 61M people. It has waiting lists; drugs are rationed and its health outcomes are some of the worst in the industrialised world. five year colon cancer survival in the UK is 75%ish in the US it is 100%
This MEP, who is speaking in 2009, was elected by the electors of "South East England". Did he tell them his views on the NHS in advance? Presumably the Tory Party was happy enough with them?
@Tarn1968 - "YOU ATE THE FOOD IN THE POW CAMP, THEREFORE YOU APPROVE OF THE POW CAMP! BECAUSE YOU USE THESE THINGS, I'LL COMPLETELY IGNORE ALL PRAGMATIC ARGUMENTS FOR FREE MARKET HEALTHCARE". Retarded.
at least americans dont want the government running there lives and bringing up there children, in the UK weve gave up on the idea of liberty and let our government set up a cuban style socialist police state that goes after thought criminals and lets junkies and gangs roam free
Please USA take this LORD HAW HAW. You are welcome to this Peruvian born git.
He doesn't actually live in the UK, he lives in Spain and Brussells. He actually tells lies int his video, we have exactly the sam enumbe rof doctors to patients as the USA does, w ehave MORE nurses p0er patient and more MD(GP). We have a better heart disease rates than the USA. He's a Fox toady, fyuck him.
They criticize the NHS because there are certain drugs that are deemed too expensive for them to procure. Surely this is an argument for the NHS to have an even bigger budget, not for its destruction. What would those breast cancer sufferers do if they were in the USA? They would get expensive health insurance and hope it covers them, or simply buy the drugs themselves.
@matthewbgod - Insurance is so expensive in the US due to state restrictions on insurance, and barriers to entry in insurance. The restrictions make it so that insurance agencies cannot discriminate, increasing the price for all. The barriers to entry make it so that the existing insurance firms can form a cartel. The same applies to medical degrees and drugs.
I think British people are quite proud of our NHS, I 2002 I collapsed in the kitchen and hit my head. I went straight to the head trauma specialist and had an xray and left the next morning and then last year, I went in for an operation and was home the same day. Why must fascists try to spread lies all the time.
To be honest, Daniel Hannan is on the verge of loosing his seat. No one in the UK respects him and the only place he has a platform is in America where his scathing and elitist comments are largely gone unnoticed by us Brits.
Daniel has come from a background of wealth, where he has had little experience with the NHS. Frankly, and I'm bring brutally honest here - The NHS is an amazing credit to the UK and there will be a revolution before it's privatised.
@billkiller Rubbish - he is no where near loosing his seat. Many people respect him as the only person willing to expose the complete waste of money and corruption taking place at the EU.
To say the NHS should go is not to say there would be no healthcare for those who are less well off. I am less well off. I lived in Holland, Sweden, Canada and France - none have an NHS but all offer better healthcare for EVERYONE.
@Dendiol A very mature statement there. Kind of reminds me of religious fundamentalists saying they hope that Richard Dawkins will burn in hell. Fact is, the NHS offers very poor healthcare. I've lived in the UK and in other countries, so I can compare.
@NewFormofSilence A very mature statement there. Given the UK healthcare it is rated 18th with the US at 37, Luxembourg being rated16th just two above the UK by that reckoning the UK and Luxembourg quality of health care cannot be that dissimilar. Regards
@GeneralEAwesome I am not horrible. I find Hannan horrible, as I object to him going on US television as a complete non-entity back home, and going completely against public opinion to attack our NHS. Fox News is also horrible, thanks for giving me the adjective.
@fxnooodle Good for you. Less fortunate people don't have that option, however, thus justifying the existence of the NHS. It's not perfect but it's a damn sight better than the American system.
@mayne242 Your point proves why he is so ill-equipped to make sweeping criticisms of an NHS he has never used. If he has always used private healthcare, that's entirely his choice, but to then go on American TV and criticise the NHS is not on.
@Dendiol You completely miss the point. Socialist health care is inherently unfair. Healthy people are forced to pay more to care for unhealthy people through taxation. How is that freedom?
@mayne242 You clearly have no idea of how the NHS is funded or operates. It's not perfect, but is greatly superior to the situation in America where the poorest in society die because they cannot afford basic medical care.
@Dendiol So it isn't taxpayer funded like every other socialist healthcare system? How much is private healthcare and how good is private healthcare in your country compared to the US? Chalk and cheese. I know people from the US and if they get the basic cheap private healthcare they are set because they don't have every dickhead and his dog running in with a sore toe to get the socialised healthcare.
@NathanJosephCole The NHS isn't perfect but healthcare isn't a marketable commodity. A free market cannot be used to provide everything, as it restricts access only to those who can afford to pay. When you're seriously ill, the last thing you should have to consider is your ability to pay for treatment. That's totally immoral.
@Dendiol And that might be fine, hell even Hayek seemed to think that unforeseeable accidents perhaps should be covered by the government, but it is the nonsense about providing everyone access to services that aren't a matter of life and death that pisses me off to no end.
Healthcare will be cheaper if we buying directly, and are not paying someone to pay for our eye care for example, whether the third party is the government or a company. We can still pay directly and we are better off for it
@NathanJosephCole I very much agree with that - the state should only provide life or death care. At the moment, the NHS provides gastric bands and plastic surgery and this is simply unacceptable. I also believe the NHS needs an internal market to improve efficiency and patient care. However, necessary healthcare should remain free to the point of use.
The NHS needs to be reformed along the lines of the world-leading French system, where a combination of public and private works very well.
@Dendiol The main effort of healthcare should always be the private sector, after all it's the healthcare that the people actually want enough to pay for. In America, our poor have nice clothes, nice food, and even cell phones, but the government provided housing and government provided education are broken down. The only reason that healthcare is like the later two is that our politicians have regulated it ad nausea. We need to deregulate healthcare and insurance so the private sector can work.
@NathanJosephCole Important healthcare should not be a commodity used to generate profit. I respect your views, but I don't think we'll be able to agree as the European and American views on healthcare are so divergent. There's no perfect solution but as a Brit I will always defend the NHS.
@Dendiol What's your opinion on being able to sell organs for transplant? In America it is illegal sell one's kidney to another- and that definitely limits the amounts of kidneys available for transplant.
@NathanJosephCole I think it's right that transplant selling remains illegal so vulnerable people are not exploited. I think an 'opt out' scheme would be the best way to combat organ shortagees. People would have the right to 'opt out' of having their organs removed for transplant after death and this would be respected, but if they don't. their organs will be removed. This is currently being trialled by the Welsh government, as the current UK system means you have to 'opt in' as a donor.
@Dendiol If own my body I should be able to sell it for any price people are willing to pay. The same for any good or service I produce, since that good or service depends entirely on me.
This is a case of politicians not enforcing existing laws that would be the reason exploitation happens.
People that say oh the NHS is a good idea but is badly run probably haven't actually been to a Hospital in a while. I have been several times and have been impressed every time. They are quick efficient but conscientious and skillful. I went to the doctor with some strange lumps and in 4 days had had a blood test and a scan at a hospital and got the results back! That does not speak of an organization with poor efficiency! My god Dan Hannan is an elitist prick.
He is right and wrong. There is nothing wrong with the principle of the NHS. It has just been run very badly. State run institutions are often more inefficient than others. Because all governments have spends money on the NHS without thinking what they want to spend it on speciffically.Really those people who can afford to go private should. Leaving more resources for the poorer people. we should have less managers. Cleaning staff should return in house.
wow he read the daily mail... thats the british equivalent of oh i dunno... fox news :L "i hope i can introduce you as prime minister"... this presenter is clearly someone of great integrity and intelect.
hahahahahaha he read the daily mail..... this presenter is a moron. reading the daily mail is like... oh i dont know... taking everything fox news says as utmost truth... absolute fucking moron
The reality is NHS is awful compared to the health care in the US and I have lived under both systems. It is also more expensive: UK taxpayer on average pays $6000 a year in taxes (NHS budget/number of taxpayers). This is WAAAY more than an average American pays for private health insurance.
@dragan221. I've lived under both systems and US care was the worst. I've medical conditions that persist to this day from US treatment. asthma as the fool doctor kept insisting on giving me samples of sinus meds for acute bronchitis which lasted for 6 months! the 6000 dollars taxes don't all go towards healthcare, they go towards NHS, police, etc and other government services. Perhaps my experience is that I'm not rich, in the US I was on scholarship.
@dragan221 in the US I was on scholarship, so not rich at all. I had to wait and save up my illnesss when I went home to Europe and get a proper checkup. I'm originally from Europe so I even have experience of 3 systems. I was actually really healthy before the US which is how I managed to not collapse from 6 months of acute bronchitis in the States. Bull! Your figures are wrong, a quick internet search will show that the US pays more than any industrialised country.
@dragan221 It's not really fair to only take taxpayers into your calculations there considering the NHS is free to everyone. And non tax paying americans will also have to pay for health insurance. So really we pay about half that. And once you take into account what american's pay for medicare etc. we pay significantly less.
@minimacca999 I should clarify when i say that non tax paying americans will have to pay for health insurance, i know they don't have to. My point is they will probably want to
@tjc874 - You are a horrible person. You support the murder of a person who wants to remove the shitty, coercive medical system in the UK. He does not harbour malice towards the people of the UK, he supports making the market free because he thinks it would be better for the people of the UK.
@GeneralEAwesome ^^^That thing in the vid wants to get rid of the NHS because he wants to save government budget for his next Jag. In the meantime he'll do exactly what he and all the rich people have always done, go private. You don't honestly think that he and all the other rich use the NHS, do you? Truth is, in the UK there's NHS for the poor and private for the rich. He just spreads lies because he couldn't give a shit for the welfare of the poor.
@GeneralEAwesome ^^^That thing in the vid wants to get rid of the NHS because he wants to save government budget for his next Jag. In the meantime he'll do exactly what he and all the rich people have always done, go private. You don't honestly think that he and all the other rich use the NHS, do you? Truth is, in the UK there's NHS for the poor and private for the rich. He just spreads lies because he couldn't give a shit for the welfare of the poor.
If the NHS is very expensive then please explain “the U.S. Healthcare system in international Context”. Given that the US private insurance system costs twice that of the NHS yet millions of US citizens do not have medical cover or are underinsured, millions more go bankrupt from trying to pay medical costs. One US citizens dies every 12 minutes because they lack the proper medical care. It is the US system that is so great why is it in crisis not the many UHC systems around the world?
He's got a point. The socialists would prefer the state to control everything, and the government is good at running nothing properly - transport, health, utilities, the lot. Most complainers take offence to this suggestion as they have had good service from the "free" NHS but the people they have dealt with (nurses, doctors) have been good, the organisation has not been. Finally, it's not free, it's very, very expensive. There's nothing like throwing money at something and getting the worst.
America our friends? they CHARGED US to rid the world of the psychopathic Nazis and that debt has been a millstone round our necks ever since. Surely it was in everyone's interest to stop the genocidal maniacs? why didn't we charge America?... or even make Germany pay?
@shaunyboy1000 I stand corrrected! (2007 I understand) Canada also sent us their bill for defeating Nazism! you live and learn!! The BIG question is... will we send America OUR bill when the war on terror is proved to be a fraud/inside job?
@MarkB1ngham LOL canada sent us a bill wtf :S never new they gave us anything, not really fair sending a bill that big i mean they could have told us "yeah we will give you supplies.....but charge you later" :P
@MarkB1ngham And i was told is history that it was 2006 oh well maybe i just have a shit teacher :P oh and i meant no offence to anyone when i said "LOL canada sent us a bill wtf" just supprised me thats all they seem nicer the n the us :P
This man is a joke! There is this universal fear of the term "socialism" because of people like Hannity and other Right Wing broadcasters. Yet if you ask people what they want in Healthcare without using the terms socialism, socialised, nationalised, studies have shown that they are overwhelmingly in favour of a socialised health service.
@wrexhamjack123 - This logic is terrible. The free-marketers are arguing for a free market for practical reasons, and simply appealing to the majority avoids the argument. If you think a socialist healthcare system is so great, why don't you and a group of like-minded people opt into it, that way you can illustrate its supposed superiority without forcing its opponents into it.
@Ibringthetruth1 when we had even more industries under government controle we produced more then you, and now we have less gov involvment we produce less
@Ibringthetruth1 No im not saying that i was just pointing it out personally i think we have a good mix of private and national industry. i think the NHS and the Banks should be run by government (banks only because look what happens otherwise) and let everything else be controled by the private sector.
@Ibringthetruth1 Plus the banks are only run by the government atm because of they need help when the economy is better i bet they will want free market again and i bet they will get it
Polemic source What a ridiculous claim your last "point "was there are hundreds of thousands who criticize the NHS many within the organization and those who have had terrible experiences of it! not to say those who were killed by it. Stop the cover ups and recognize that the whole set up is open to abuse and grossly inefficient. Hannan ,like many NI contributors are right to point out its massive failings WE DEMAND BETTER VALUE FOR MONEY! perhaps those who don't contribute don't care
I am employed, and do not have health insurance, currently. However, I am in dire need of knee surgery for a torn ACL. So I'm going to the VA Hospital, as I am a veteran. If I were not a veteran, however, I would simply be unable to get the surgery, I would be unable to work, and I would be on welfare.
We pay more tax in the UK to cover the cost of the NHS than we would pay for private healthcare. It's not free health care - it's very expensive healthcare.
the nhs is fantastic and one of the few things done well in the uk (it could be done better, obviously)..... so france, germany etc may have better health care systems but it is still better than the US system.
It's funny how ANYONE in the UK who can afford private health care uses it rather than the NHS. If you weren't taxed so high to pay for the NHS you would be able to afford BETTER PRIVATE healthcare.
@SimonHairy I'm sorry but the British system is the way the civilized world works.... say somebody had a heart condition, how could he/she get quality insurance? i'm sorry but i hate high tax to pay for pointless or inefficient services but healthcare is a must - good health should not be the preserve of the rich alone.
@vanpablo79 The Healthcare in Germany, Holland, Sweden and Norway is far better than the UK and much more civilised. They do not have an expensive NHS. Your comment is unfounded and emotionally based.
It is possible to provide Healthcare via much better models than the UK's NHS. It's funny how NO COUNTRY ANYWHERE has copied our system after all these years.
@SimonHairy i think i did state that ours isn't the best but is far better than that to which it is compaired in the film. and the NHS is at worst top 10 in the world
@SimonHairy Exactly so my friend , I only earn £ 240 a week and when my wife had fibroids the antiquated chaotic NHS not only failed to remove fibroids . We discovered when she got proper treatment in Japan,( all were removed) she had endrometrial cancer! THEY saved her life. That's Why I paid for what Ive already been taxed for. NHS 6 largest employer worst cancer survival rates in Europe. U.S and Japan lead world in advances Cancer Research UK also but fortunately not part of NHS
I'm sure you had the privalledge of being able to afford the best however most people dont. i'm sorry about your wife but that isnt down to the failure of the concept of NHS itself but the failure of those who treated your wife hospital staff. Sadly their is a lottery postcode and London is the top spot.
@LoloSparks2009 thanks for your reply, but no I couldn't really afford it as I said I only take home £240 a week. I am in debt as well as receiving money from my Dad and Dad in law. WE NEED to ensure things are done properly, More is spent on the NHS than Japanese health care but the outcomes different . Like their railways etc its about serious work ethic.
NHS is something everyone in the UK can be proud of but im afraid I do believe your case to be true. like is said its a postcode lottery. The problem is Hanna isnt attacking the quality or problems but "concept".
I really dont want to sound racist but the problem with the NHS now is that they have imported too many doctors & nurses from the third world from countries like Africa or the Phillipines.
& ppl from the EU & abroad keep draining its resources its the same with social housing.
Not that there is anything wrong with foreign doctors its just the level of training they would of recieved in their country that is the problem, infact the India,Chinese,Australian etc doctors have been very good in my experience . Its just the African or other 3rd world ones that are the worse when in comes to incompetence, some can either not speak good english or clearly fabricated alot of their qualifications & the African Nurses have a terrible attitude and can be very rude.
What he means is we should have a private health care system in the Uk so people like him and his millionaire friends can have health care and all the oiks can get sick and die off leaving even more resources for them.
To any Americans watching this, whatever your views on healthcare, Daniel Hannan is viewed as a total joke in Britain. No one of any intellect, even within his own party, takes him seriously. And the NHS, despite it's failings, is viewed as a national treasure. You know why he kept getting asked on so many US news programmes to talk about the NHS? Becasuse they couldnt find anyone else from the UK to criticise it.
2:26 DON'T read the daily mail!!! It's a national joke, well known for spouting nonsense for the sake of creating controversy. It basically plays into the british trait of enjoying a good moan by giving us something (innacurate and generally rediculous) to moan about.
"As long as you have a socialistic system, no amount of extra spending is going to rescue it" We should take care of each other because that's what we want to do, not because we are forced to. Being forced to just fosters and nurtures an environment of avarice: not charity. Those will money will always be able to afford it. And it will never obliterate the real need for charity anyway: we will always need to take care of our neighbor, no matter how much is being poured into the system.
The NHS is ending the right of patients to see a family doctor within 48 hours and axing the 18-week target covering the period from hospital referral to start of treatment. Both were key planks of the Labour government's health policy, which had used large cash injections and targets to improve the NHS.
Soon we will live in the dark ages like the UK - a third world country!
The UK must have honest and more competent politicians than the US does... our gov't is so porly managed we flush $ down to toilet all the time... Glad Social Health Care works for you - in the USA it's won't.
I like Daniel Hannan and tend to agree with a lot of what he says but even I have to take issue with him here. The NHS has its failings and it does no good to anybody to pretend that isn't the case but it has led to a lot of good for the people of the UK and that shouldn't be forgotten. I think there are far better healthcare systems we could have adopted but its going a bit far to travel abroad and talk about the NHS like its a disaster. The benifits of the NHS should not be dismissed so easily
Fuck this prick.Even the leader of the conservative party publically denounced him.He's an insignificant little troll and the daily mail is a piece of shit.
Those that oppose free healthcare in the US are motivated by greed.They will stoop to any possible low to prevent the people from having a right to fucking LIVE.I .My dad has had terrible health problems over the past few years which put him out of work,if it weren't for the NHS he wouldn't be here.
Wow Hannan, why not make the whole thing private and it'll run just as smoothly as our transport systems? I love when the presenter says "I read the Daily Mail..."
dan hannan is an idiot, he has to be a european member of parliament bacause if he stayed in england his party would stand a chance. theres no market for our doctors if that is the case why do we bring in so many foreign doctors. he should just shut his big mouth the conservatives dont care less about the poor its always been the case. because the nhs supports everyone not just the elite they hate the idea.
having jest broken my arm in california, I can tell you that NHS treatment is faster, cheaper and conforms to a superior standard of care than is available in the USA.
Oh, it's worth mentioning the NHS exists alongside private health care from the likes of BUPA. Often when you need specialist treatments you are referred to BUPA, at no cost. My mother had cancer, was referred to BUPA, it cleared. My brother was taken to BUPA by the ambulance service when his appendix was about to explode.
HA HA HA HA HA HA! "I read the DAILY MAIL!" HA HA HA! For all Americans watching this, the Daily Mail is a rank publication that thrives on spreading fear. Xenophobia, racism, fear, fear, fear. Imagine a paper that Hitler would publish... THAT'S that Daily Mail.
But the problem is you only get quality care in the United States if you can afford it. Remember not every employer provides health insurance to employees so those employees have to purchase their own. Now what happens if you don't make enough money to afford the premiums? well you simply go without insurance and hope like hell you don't get sick. The middle class can afford insurance, the poor get it for free, but it's the 50 million who fall in the middle that have to go without. it.
Dan. Sorry I called you David. You have a great PM. David Cameron. He loves his country and is working to get England back on track. You can be such an aset to him and England. You are both good men. Stand together and put England back on the map. Blessings on you both.
@gtgale1 I'm British and I have to let you know that Prime Minister David Cameron supports the NHS and socialised medicine in the UK. As a matter of fact, David Cameron's disabled son was taken care of by the NHS before he died. Our Prime Minister praised the NHS for looking after his son right up to his dying days. You Americans don't know anything about British politics. Just because he's the leader and PM of the conservative party doesn't mean he's conservative like the Republicans.
@noorkhanuk85 and you seem to know little about American politics, the republicans(just like the tories) are no longer the conservative force they once were, infact, they are little different to any mainstreem party in western politics, they all answer to the same people. The only problem is, it's not the people they are employed to represent.
@nothavingnoneofit actually there is a huge difference between the american conservatives and european conservatives. European conservatives are just conservative and that's it. American conservatives are what you call 'neo-conservatives' which are like fascists. Why is it that american republicans strongly oppose universal healthcare whereas conservatives of almost every other western country support it? Cos the republicans are 'neo' and not normal conservatives like european ones.
Why apply any any substance to your argument when you can instead use political insults. Neo-con, fascist? you mean like John Mccain who is pushing for amnesty for illegal immigants or Meg Whitman who did a TV ad in spanish appealing to the mexican communities,etc?
Why do they oppose SOCIALISED(leftwing) health care? because their system works better than ours, just ask any UK family who's child has had to be treated in the US because the NHS didn't have the funds to help them.
....(cont)European conservatives(by the very definition of the word) are not very conservative at all, and I also think that you will find that Obamas Democrats(just like nu-Labour) can be far more accurately defined as being fascist than the Republican party.
@noorkhanuk85people like him because he speaks the truth instead of sugar coating things,,,just like farage,,,btw...the masses are ignorant..... thats why he isnt well liked not becuase hes wrong,,,he stands for principals and thats what matters... I dont aree with some of our american politicians but if they are honest and fight for freedom and they vote consistently with their head and not their wallet I am happy w them
@candiceevans1 I don't know whether you've noticed yet but i'm british and he's not speaking the truth, neither is he speaking for the majority. The masses are not ignorant either. Still don't believe me? His own party leader Prime Minister David Cameron has also denounced him! He has been denounced by the PM himself! This guy is probably the only guy that fox news can find to interview from britain. Fox cannot find any other british conservative except this fucker.
@gtgale1 What has Cameron achieved so far to justify you calling him great? He couldn't even achieve outright victory against the most corrupted, incompetent and downright evil government we have ever had(his 1st failure), and has already back out of election pledges. Wake up, you've been sold a dud.
David you are so right on. It's too bad other people don't have your common sense approach on life problems. You seem to have your head together. Bully for you. You will go a long way in the Political arena. Stand tall always and tell it like it is. God Bless England , David and The Queen.
chelbelle20...This man does NOT represent what most Brits think.
Probably true. Most of them are too thick to question the bullshit they are fed. Simple arguments like cutting money = bad are so much easier to swallow than the truth.
Free health-care. Good idea. Who pays? Where does the money come from? My taxes pay it, so I want a lean mean efficient body working for me, not a bureaucratic mess. So if the Tories can cut out all the outreach workers and diversity managers in the NHS then good.
Daniel Hannan is a lying, piece of shit. End of. The NHS fucking rules, we spend less per person than the Yanks do, every person has a right to decent healthcare. Hannan you cunt, if you don't like Britain then get the fuck out. Wanker
it's a shame to see him classed as a representative of britain just because he is in the tiny minority of brits who agree with these right wing nutters.
Nonsense, capitalized health does not lead to fair prices for all, just look at the usa. It's not perfect, but I know that if I cut off a few fingers at work, I won't have to choose which ones (if any) to get reattached based on how much the op would cost
medwaymod 15 hours ago
For all my fellow englishmen i know we all love having free healthcare but in reality its paid for by tax. If we allowed health care to run privately two things would occure. 1. We would ALL pay lower taxes 2. free market capitalism would result in healthcare being affordable due to there being competition for prices. Government makes things expensive with there intervention as no private company could compete against government.
lewcy1 22 hours ago
Who voted for this prick?
frasermo 2 days ago
Anyone who has had the misfortune to use the NHS will tell you the same(if they're being honest).It's awful.The staff treat you like they treat an unwelcome beggar,the wards are like some Soviet era shitlhole.It's a classic example of a state monopoly,bureacratic,inefficient and run by self serving unsympathetic staff.To all the Labour drones out there,wake up ffs,your sacred cow needs to be killed and reincarnated in the image of the modern and effective health care systems of the world.
CAMERONisaEUROPHILE 3 days ago
This guy is an absolute cock.
The British National health service is second to none.
Also, the French have a great free health service as does Canada.
It just seems that muppets like these two love the American health service which I wouldn't wish on anyone.
MrVillamike 1 week ago
@MrVillamike The British health service is second to none. LOL irony alert.
You are right about France's healthcare though.
MrGilles1990 1 week ago
@MrGilles1990 My life was saved by the NHS, I don't see where the Irony is so please enlighten me.
I live in Ireland which has a health service similar to the US, it is 2 tier, private hospitals and public hospitals where unemployed or low income people go.
Basically it is a 3rd world health service compared to the NHS.
MrVillamike 1 week ago
@MrVillamike I have been to Ireland and have seen the faults of it's healthcare system, but that's no reason to support a second world system.
MrGilles1990 6 days ago
Could this man fuck off to America or something? I'm generally a free marketer on most issues with a limited span of control over a lot of issues, but as soon as limited Government means that people are bankrupted for not being able to pay for Insurance, then it can go fuck itself.
There are more things to life than money, there is something called Empathy towards your fellow human beings regardless of their financial status, it's called giving people a second chance.
TheAsymmetrical 1 month ago
@TheAsymmetrical By the way, if you don't think extending some common decency to those whom otherwise would not have health insurance, you should start thinking of the tax you pay towards Medicare or the NHS as a "Bastard Tax"
TheAsymmetrical 1 month ago
@TheAsymmetrical Having a private healthcare system does not mean an American system. Look at France or Germany for example.
MrGilles1990 1 week ago
@MrGilles1990 but they still have a public system which operates in a tandem act as it were with the private system (which as you know is heavily regulated)
irishgodfatherchris 6 days ago
What a prick…
scroggg 1 month ago
I hope his bollocks turn square, and fester at each corner.
GreenmanXIV 1 month ago
Oh.My. God.
I want him to have pancreatic cancer and be on an NHS waiting list in a some run down dirty hospital which has been refused money because they've not hit the "targets" set by the government... where he writhes in agony until his last breath, with no oxygen...
I'm so angry!
leemondo1 2 months ago
LOL look at all the socialists crying about this video. You aren't ENTITLED to someone providing you with a service, i.e medical care. It is like socialising food. If you eat little you end up paying more for people that eat a lot. Utter stupidity.
mayne242 3 months ago
You people are idiots......Daniel Hannan isn't criticising a national healthcare system....What he is criticising is the structure of the NHS and he is right to do so. It doesn't work. What Hannan wants to do is restructure its funding.
All you need to know is this......The NHS services 61M people. It has waiting lists; drugs are rationed and its health outcomes are some of the worst in the industrialised world. five year colon cancer survival in the UK is 75%ish in the US it is 100%
DirectDemocrat 3 months ago
This MEP, who is speaking in 2009, was elected by the electors of "South East England". Did he tell them his views on the NHS in advance? Presumably the Tory Party was happy enough with them?
Allanfearn 3 months ago
IF YOU ASK A RIGHT WING ATTENTION SEEKER FOR ADVICE, THEN YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU GET!
The Right Wing Conservative Government in the UK STARVES the NHS of funds EVERY TIME it get power.
The MAIL is a Right Wing tabloid trash newspaper. What do you expect them to say? ...apart from "I'm alright jack!!"
The UK doesn't have the WALKING WOUNDED and POOR suffering and dying in poverty because they can't afford private health care!
BlackRoof 5 months ago
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Q3ToPBuZz 5 months ago
@Tarn1968 - "YOU ATE THE FOOD IN THE POW CAMP, THEREFORE YOU APPROVE OF THE POW CAMP! BECAUSE YOU USE THESE THINGS, I'LL COMPLETELY IGNORE ALL PRAGMATIC ARGUMENTS FOR FREE MARKET HEALTHCARE". Retarded.
GeneralEAwesome 6 months ago
at least americans dont want the government running there lives and bringing up there children, in the UK weve gave up on the idea of liberty and let our government set up a cuban style socialist police state that goes after thought criminals and lets junkies and gangs roam free
scottishchap2008 7 months ago
Please USA take this LORD HAW HAW. You are welcome to this Peruvian born git.
He doesn't actually live in the UK, he lives in Spain and Brussells. He actually tells lies int his video, we have exactly the sam enumbe rof doctors to patients as the USA does, w ehave MORE nurses p0er patient and more MD(GP). We have a better heart disease rates than the USA. He's a Fox toady, fyuck him.
bakersteven3 7 months ago
The UK HATES this prick!!
mellowNdark 7 months ago
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GeneralEAwesome 6 months ago
Hannan is a joke in the UK.
Please feel free to keep he USA, we don't want him!
Paul2uall 8 months ago
@Paul2uall We might as well, let him run for an actual office, with actual power, I mean it's not like you get to vote for your leaders in the EU.
NathanJosephCole 2 months ago
They criticize the NHS because there are certain drugs that are deemed too expensive for them to procure. Surely this is an argument for the NHS to have an even bigger budget, not for its destruction. What would those breast cancer sufferers do if they were in the USA? They would get expensive health insurance and hope it covers them, or simply buy the drugs themselves.
matthewbgod 8 months ago
@matthewbgod - Insurance is so expensive in the US due to state restrictions on insurance, and barriers to entry in insurance. The restrictions make it so that insurance agencies cannot discriminate, increasing the price for all. The barriers to entry make it so that the existing insurance firms can form a cartel. The same applies to medical degrees and drugs.
GeneralEAwesome 6 months ago
Well said Hannan.. I completely suport his views..
Elcristoph 8 months ago 2
Hannan was lauded for a short time due to a scathing attack on Gordon Brown in the European Parliament.
But then, he came out with this crap and we all saw him for what he really was.
fodsaks 8 months ago
Dan Hannan does not reflect the thoughts of the vast majority of Britians.
The NHS is not perfect, but the funding methord is supported by 90% of the population.
This Fox News twat talks about france? Its the WHO rates it as number one.
Yes a 'socialized' system is number one.
Given the choice, I'd go with France or Canada for treament. Not the US
associatemonkey 8 months ago
HANG THE BASTARD
robpeter1 8 months ago
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GeneralEAwesome 7 months ago
@GeneralEAwesome HAHAHAHAHAHAHA lol ,,,
robpeter1 6 months ago
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GeneralEAwesome 6 months ago
What a shit.
Karateworm 9 months ago
Daniel Hannan, is spot on. The NHS has crumbled and cracked, and people are suffering because of it. America, take Dan's advice!
TheMrChugger 9 months ago
I think British people are quite proud of our NHS, I 2002 I collapsed in the kitchen and hit my head. I went straight to the head trauma specialist and had an xray and left the next morning and then last year, I went in for an operation and was home the same day. Why must fascists try to spread lies all the time.
creasicle 9 months ago
Its been created to fail like everything for the publc.
philos4r 10 months ago
I work as a kitchen porter in guys hospital and if ever the oppotunity arises I promise to piss on Dan Hannan's food
inkibert 10 months ago
To be honest, Daniel Hannan is on the verge of loosing his seat. No one in the UK respects him and the only place he has a platform is in America where his scathing and elitist comments are largely gone unnoticed by us Brits.
Daniel has come from a background of wealth, where he has had little experience with the NHS. Frankly, and I'm bring brutally honest here - The NHS is an amazing credit to the UK and there will be a revolution before it's privatised.
billkiller 10 months ago 2
@billkiller Rubbish - he is no where near loosing his seat. Many people respect him as the only person willing to expose the complete waste of money and corruption taking place at the EU.
To say the NHS should go is not to say there would be no healthcare for those who are less well off. I am less well off. I lived in Holland, Sweden, Canada and France - none have an NHS but all offer better healthcare for EVERYONE.
SimonHairy 10 months ago
NHS = experiment!
Posh tw*at
Sinjy 10 months ago
I hope that if he one day relies on the NHS in an emergency, the doctors recognise him and tell him to fuck off.
Dendiol 10 months ago 13
@Dendiol A very mature statement there. Kind of reminds me of religious fundamentalists saying they hope that Richard Dawkins will burn in hell. Fact is, the NHS offers very poor healthcare. I've lived in the UK and in other countries, so I can compare.
NewFormofSilence 9 months ago
@NewFormofSilence A very mature statement there. Given the UK healthcare it is rated 18th with the US at 37, Luxembourg being rated16th just two above the UK by that reckoning the UK and Luxembourg quality of health care cannot be that dissimilar. Regards
davijeph 9 months ago
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GeneralEAwesome 7 months ago
@GeneralEAwesome He just hates the poor and loves his own bank account.
Bubo25 4 months ago
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GeneralEAwesome 6 months ago
@GeneralEAwesome I am not horrible. I find Hannan horrible, as I object to him going on US television as a complete non-entity back home, and going completely against public opinion to attack our NHS. Fox News is also horrible, thanks for giving me the adjective.
Dendiol 6 months ago
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GeneralEAwesome 6 months ago
@Dendiol thank you but no thank. I have private insurance and private hospital to take care of me.
fxnooodle 3 months ago
@fxnooodle Good for you. Less fortunate people don't have that option, however, thus justifying the existence of the NHS. It's not perfect but it's a damn sight better than the American system.
Dendiol 3 months ago
@Dendiol He probably pays for private healthcare. So, your moral high ground commentary is a joke.
mayne242 3 months ago
@mayne242 Your point proves why he is so ill-equipped to make sweeping criticisms of an NHS he has never used. If he has always used private healthcare, that's entirely his choice, but to then go on American TV and criticise the NHS is not on.
Dendiol 3 months ago
@Dendiol You completely miss the point. Socialist health care is inherently unfair. Healthy people are forced to pay more to care for unhealthy people through taxation. How is that freedom?
mayne242 3 months ago
@mayne242 You clearly have no idea of how the NHS is funded or operates. It's not perfect, but is greatly superior to the situation in America where the poorest in society die because they cannot afford basic medical care.
Dendiol 3 months ago
@Dendiol So it isn't taxpayer funded like every other socialist healthcare system? How much is private healthcare and how good is private healthcare in your country compared to the US? Chalk and cheese. I know people from the US and if they get the basic cheap private healthcare they are set because they don't have every dickhead and his dog running in with a sore toe to get the socialised healthcare.
mayne242 3 months ago
@Dendiol Do they? I suppose you can show some evidence of this?
mayne242 3 months ago
@Dendiol
They die because politicians regulate the shit out of healthcare bringing its equilibrium price way above what it else where be.
Forcing someone to provide a good for someone else that they did not pay for is a kind of slavery.
NathanJosephCole 2 months ago
@NathanJosephCole The NHS isn't perfect but healthcare isn't a marketable commodity. A free market cannot be used to provide everything, as it restricts access only to those who can afford to pay. When you're seriously ill, the last thing you should have to consider is your ability to pay for treatment. That's totally immoral.
Dendiol 2 months ago
@Dendiol And that might be fine, hell even Hayek seemed to think that unforeseeable accidents perhaps should be covered by the government, but it is the nonsense about providing everyone access to services that aren't a matter of life and death that pisses me off to no end.
Healthcare will be cheaper if we buying directly, and are not paying someone to pay for our eye care for example, whether the third party is the government or a company. We can still pay directly and we are better off for it
NathanJosephCole 2 months ago
@NathanJosephCole I very much agree with that - the state should only provide life or death care. At the moment, the NHS provides gastric bands and plastic surgery and this is simply unacceptable. I also believe the NHS needs an internal market to improve efficiency and patient care. However, necessary healthcare should remain free to the point of use.
The NHS needs to be reformed along the lines of the world-leading French system, where a combination of public and private works very well.
Dendiol 2 months ago
@Dendiol The main effort of healthcare should always be the private sector, after all it's the healthcare that the people actually want enough to pay for. In America, our poor have nice clothes, nice food, and even cell phones, but the government provided housing and government provided education are broken down. The only reason that healthcare is like the later two is that our politicians have regulated it ad nausea. We need to deregulate healthcare and insurance so the private sector can work.
NathanJosephCole 2 months ago
@NathanJosephCole Important healthcare should not be a commodity used to generate profit. I respect your views, but I don't think we'll be able to agree as the European and American views on healthcare are so divergent. There's no perfect solution but as a Brit I will always defend the NHS.
Dendiol 2 months ago
@Dendiol What's your opinion on being able to sell organs for transplant? In America it is illegal sell one's kidney to another- and that definitely limits the amounts of kidneys available for transplant.
NathanJosephCole 2 months ago
@NathanJosephCole I think it's right that transplant selling remains illegal so vulnerable people are not exploited. I think an 'opt out' scheme would be the best way to combat organ shortagees. People would have the right to 'opt out' of having their organs removed for transplant after death and this would be respected, but if they don't. their organs will be removed. This is currently being trialled by the Welsh government, as the current UK system means you have to 'opt in' as a donor.
Dendiol 2 months ago
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NathanJosephCole 2 months ago
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@Dendiol If own my body I should be able to sell it for any price people are willing to pay. The same for any good or service I produce, since that good or service depends entirely on me.
This is a case of politicians not enforcing existing laws that would be the reason exploitation happens.
NathanJosephCole 2 months ago
People that say oh the NHS is a good idea but is badly run probably haven't actually been to a Hospital in a while. I have been several times and have been impressed every time. They are quick efficient but conscientious and skillful. I went to the doctor with some strange lumps and in 4 days had had a blood test and a scan at a hospital and got the results back! That does not speak of an organization with poor efficiency! My god Dan Hannan is an elitist prick.
suttydcfc1 10 months ago 9
He is right and wrong. There is nothing wrong with the principle of the NHS. It has just been run very badly. State run institutions are often more inefficient than others. Because all governments have spends money on the NHS without thinking what they want to spend it on speciffically.Really those people who can afford to go private should. Leaving more resources for the poorer people. we should have less managers. Cleaning staff should return in house.
juzt156 11 months ago
read newsnet scotland
MrScottishJamie 11 months ago
wow he read the daily mail... thats the british equivalent of oh i dunno... fox news :L "i hope i can introduce you as prime minister"... this presenter is clearly someone of great integrity and intelect.
Roryaber 11 months ago
hahahahahaha he read the daily mail..... this presenter is a moron. reading the daily mail is like... oh i dont know... taking everything fox news says as utmost truth... absolute fucking moron
Roryaber 11 months ago
The reality is NHS is awful compared to the health care in the US and I have lived under both systems. It is also more expensive: UK taxpayer on average pays $6000 a year in taxes (NHS budget/number of taxpayers). This is WAAAY more than an average American pays for private health insurance.
dragan221 11 months ago
@dragan221. I've lived under both systems and US care was the worst. I've medical conditions that persist to this day from US treatment. asthma as the fool doctor kept insisting on giving me samples of sinus meds for acute bronchitis which lasted for 6 months! the 6000 dollars taxes don't all go towards healthcare, they go towards NHS, police, etc and other government services. Perhaps my experience is that I'm not rich, in the US I was on scholarship.
Sekhmes 11 months ago
@dragan221 in the US I was on scholarship, so not rich at all. I had to wait and save up my illnesss when I went home to Europe and get a proper checkup. I'm originally from Europe so I even have experience of 3 systems. I was actually really healthy before the US which is how I managed to not collapse from 6 months of acute bronchitis in the States. Bull! Your figures are wrong, a quick internet search will show that the US pays more than any industrialised country.
Sekhmes 11 months ago
@dragan221 It's not really fair to only take taxpayers into your calculations there considering the NHS is free to everyone. And non tax paying americans will also have to pay for health insurance. So really we pay about half that. And once you take into account what american's pay for medicare etc. we pay significantly less.
minimacca999 9 months ago
@minimacca999 I should clarify when i say that non tax paying americans will have to pay for health insurance, i know they don't have to. My point is they will probably want to
minimacca999 9 months ago
I reckon Obama needs to take some advice from our British cousins instead of snubbing them.
thelastamericandude 11 months ago
Fucking prick.
Reqrezentin 11 months ago
This man is simply a liar.
NHL07DS 1 year ago
@3:56 "Maybe Fox is going to restore a little bit of sanity into the debate here".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
A frightening concept.
Grenville84 1 year ago
what a total cunt should be hung for treason
tjc874 1 year ago
@tjc874 - You are a horrible person. You support the murder of a person who wants to remove the shitty, coercive medical system in the UK. He does not harbour malice towards the people of the UK, he supports making the market free because he thinks it would be better for the people of the UK.
GeneralEAwesome 6 months ago
@GeneralEAwesome ^^^That thing in the vid wants to get rid of the NHS because he wants to save government budget for his next Jag. In the meantime he'll do exactly what he and all the rich people have always done, go private. You don't honestly think that he and all the other rich use the NHS, do you? Truth is, in the UK there's NHS for the poor and private for the rich. He just spreads lies because he couldn't give a shit for the welfare of the poor.
Bubo25 4 months ago
@GeneralEAwesome ^^^That thing in the vid wants to get rid of the NHS because he wants to save government budget for his next Jag. In the meantime he'll do exactly what he and all the rich people have always done, go private. You don't honestly think that he and all the other rich use the NHS, do you? Truth is, in the UK there's NHS for the poor and private for the rich. He just spreads lies because he couldn't give a shit for the welfare of the poor.
Bubo25 4 months ago
what a wanker and a traitor !! why dont you live in america if you fuckin like it so much !! he needs sackin or stringin up !
leaoni321 1 year ago
If the NHS is very expensive then please explain “the U.S. Healthcare system in international Context”. Given that the US private insurance system costs twice that of the NHS yet millions of US citizens do not have medical cover or are underinsured, millions more go bankrupt from trying to pay medical costs. One US citizens dies every 12 minutes because they lack the proper medical care. It is the US system that is so great why is it in crisis not the many UHC systems around the world?
davijeph 1 year ago
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davijeph 1 year ago
This prick from Fox will be waiting a long time to introduce Hannan as Prime Minister. He should definitely hold his breath though.
QuayIssues 1 year ago
He's got a point. The socialists would prefer the state to control everything, and the government is good at running nothing properly - transport, health, utilities, the lot. Most complainers take offence to this suggestion as they have had good service from the "free" NHS but the people they have dealt with (nurses, doctors) have been good, the organisation has not been. Finally, it's not free, it's very, very expensive. There's nothing like throwing money at something and getting the worst.
ecg1992 1 year ago
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love nationalised health care and so do 90% of the country
barneymchale1 1 year ago
love nationalised health care and so do 90% of the coun
barneymchale1 1 year ago
America our friends? they CHARGED US to rid the world of the psychopathic Nazis and that debt has been a millstone round our necks ever since. Surely it was in everyone's interest to stop the genocidal maniacs? why didn't we charge America?... or even make Germany pay?
MarkB1ngham 1 year ago
@MarkB1ngham we paid the debt of in 2006 i think :P just though i would bring that up :P
shaunyboy1000 1 year ago
@shaunyboy1000 I stand corrrected! (2007 I understand) Canada also sent us their bill for defeating Nazism! you live and learn!! The BIG question is... will we send America OUR bill when the war on terror is proved to be a fraud/inside job?
MarkB1ngham 1 year ago
@MarkB1ngham LOL canada sent us a bill wtf :S never new they gave us anything, not really fair sending a bill that big i mean they could have told us "yeah we will give you supplies.....but charge you later" :P
shaunyboy1000 1 year ago
@MarkB1ngham And i was told is history that it was 2006 oh well maybe i just have a shit teacher :P oh and i meant no offence to anyone when i said "LOL canada sent us a bill wtf" just supprised me thats all they seem nicer the n the us :P
shaunyboy1000 1 year ago
This man is a joke! There is this universal fear of the term "socialism" because of people like Hannity and other Right Wing broadcasters. Yet if you ask people what they want in Healthcare without using the terms socialism, socialised, nationalised, studies have shown that they are overwhelmingly in favour of a socialised health service.
wrexhamjack123 1 year ago
@wrexhamjack123 - This logic is terrible. The free-marketers are arguing for a free market for practical reasons, and simply appealing to the majority avoids the argument. If you think a socialist healthcare system is so great, why don't you and a group of like-minded people opt into it, that way you can illustrate its supposed superiority without forcing its opponents into it.
GeneralEAwesome 6 months ago
The NHS never recovered from Thatch with her pathological hatred of socialism' crapping into the waterhole'
MarkB1ngham 1 year ago
@Tarn1968
Are you really going to use our military to further your points about how Socialism is?
Really?
We have private schools and they outperform publics. We could create a real public charity library without any need of stupid property taxes.
The founders did want the public to pay for the militia we call military.
Whats wrong with Glenn Beck? Oh he attacks Obama. You're man.
Ibringthetruth1 1 year ago
@Tarn1968
Marxist devotee i take it?
I oppose all government socialist spending. Look at your worthless country. It produces nothing.
Ibringthetruth1 1 year ago
@Ibringthetruth1 when we had even more industries under government controle we produced more then you, and now we have less gov involvment we produce less
shaunyboy1000 1 year ago
@shaunyboy1000
Good thinking. So increase government! back to the 70's!
Ibringthetruth1 1 year ago
@Ibringthetruth1 No im not saying that i was just pointing it out personally i think we have a good mix of private and national industry. i think the NHS and the Banks should be run by government (banks only because look what happens otherwise) and let everything else be controled by the private sector.
shaunyboy1000 1 year ago
@shaunyboy1000
banks and nhs are run by government.
Ibringthetruth1 1 year ago
@Ibringthetruth1 Yeah i know that :P but i was just saying that i thinks that the level of government involvment we should have.
shaunyboy1000 1 year ago
@Ibringthetruth1 Plus the banks are only run by the government atm because of they need help when the economy is better i bet they will want free market again and i bet they will get it
shaunyboy1000 1 year ago
@Tarn1968
We prefer jobs to welfare and inefficient government services.
liar.
Ibringthetruth1 1 year ago
Polemic source What a ridiculous claim your last "point "was there are hundreds of thousands who criticize the NHS many within the organization and those who have had terrible experiences of it! not to say those who were killed by it. Stop the cover ups and recognize that the whole set up is open to abuse and grossly inefficient. Hannan ,like many NI contributors are right to point out its massive failings WE DEMAND BETTER VALUE FOR MONEY! perhaps those who don't contribute don't care
wasabimanic 1 year ago
I read the Daily Mail... fail!
zchae81 1 year ago
can't wait for the labour campaign in HIS constituency in the next EU elections
MrChesterarthur 1 year ago
Hannan is absolutely right, abolish the NHS and slay Leviathan.
contick1234 1 year ago
The only reason anyone gets elected as an MEP is because they're not popular enough to become an MP. look at the BNP.
I've never heard of this tit and can safely say he represents the views of about 0.001% of Britain.
MrLtPink 1 year ago
I am employed, and do not have health insurance, currently. However, I am in dire need of knee surgery for a torn ACL. So I'm going to the VA Hospital, as I am a veteran. If I were not a veteran, however, I would simply be unable to get the surgery, I would be unable to work, and I would be on welfare.
Do the math, right-wingers.
fearguis 1 year ago
@fearguis
We pay more tax in the UK to cover the cost of the NHS than we would pay for private healthcare. It's not free health care - it's very expensive healthcare.
SimonHairy 1 year ago
@SimonHairy How much would you pay for welfare if I couldn't work because I can't walk?
fearguis 1 year ago
@SimonHairy Actually the USA spends far more of their GDP on healthcare than the UK
minimacca999 1 year ago
@SimonHairy no ur wrong, because Insurance companies take 30% as profit
harj2009 1 year ago
@fearguis well said fearguis! i like the cut o yer jib!
vanpablo79 1 year ago
the nhs is fantastic and one of the few things done well in the uk (it could be done better, obviously)..... so france, germany etc may have better health care systems but it is still better than the US system.
vanpablo79 1 year ago
@vanpablo79
It's funny how ANYONE in the UK who can afford private health care uses it rather than the NHS. If you weren't taxed so high to pay for the NHS you would be able to afford BETTER PRIVATE healthcare.
SimonHairy 1 year ago
@SimonHairy I'm sorry but the British system is the way the civilized world works.... say somebody had a heart condition, how could he/she get quality insurance? i'm sorry but i hate high tax to pay for pointless or inefficient services but healthcare is a must - good health should not be the preserve of the rich alone.
vanpablo79 1 year ago
@vanpablo79 The Healthcare in Germany, Holland, Sweden and Norway is far better than the UK and much more civilised. They do not have an expensive NHS. Your comment is unfounded and emotionally based.
It is possible to provide Healthcare via much better models than the UK's NHS. It's funny how NO COUNTRY ANYWHERE has copied our system after all these years.
SimonHairy 10 months ago
@SimonHairy i think i did state that ours isn't the best but is far better than that to which it is compaired in the film. and the NHS is at worst top 10 in the world
vanpablo79 10 months ago
@SimonHairy Exactly so my friend , I only earn £ 240 a week and when my wife had fibroids the antiquated chaotic NHS not only failed to remove fibroids . We discovered when she got proper treatment in Japan,( all were removed) she had endrometrial cancer! THEY saved her life. That's Why I paid for what Ive already been taxed for. NHS 6 largest employer worst cancer survival rates in Europe. U.S and Japan lead world in advances Cancer Research UK also but fortunately not part of NHS
wasabimanic 1 year ago
@wasabimanic
I'm sure you had the privalledge of being able to afford the best however most people dont. i'm sorry about your wife but that isnt down to the failure of the concept of NHS itself but the failure of those who treated your wife hospital staff. Sadly their is a lottery postcode and London is the top spot.
LoloSparks2009 1 year ago
@LoloSparks2009 thanks for your reply, but no I couldn't really afford it as I said I only take home £240 a week. I am in debt as well as receiving money from my Dad and Dad in law. WE NEED to ensure things are done properly, More is spent on the NHS than Japanese health care but the outcomes different . Like their railways etc its about serious work ethic.
wasabimanic 1 year ago
NHS is something everyone in the UK can be proud of but im afraid I do believe your case to be true. like is said its a postcode lottery. The problem is Hanna isnt attacking the quality or problems but "concept".
I really dont want to sound racist but the problem with the NHS now is that they have imported too many doctors & nurses from the third world from countries like Africa or the Phillipines.
& ppl from the EU & abroad keep draining its resources its the same with social housing.
LoloSparks2009 1 year ago
Not that there is anything wrong with foreign doctors its just the level of training they would of recieved in their country that is the problem, infact the India,Chinese,Australian etc doctors have been very good in my experience . Its just the African or other 3rd world ones that are the worse when in comes to incompetence, some can either not speak good english or clearly fabricated alot of their qualifications & the African Nurses have a terrible attitude and can be very rude.
LoloSparks2009 1 year ago
@SimonHairy And anyone who can afford private schools uses private schools are you suggesting we get rid of state schools?
minimacca999 1 year ago
What he means is we should have a private health care system in the Uk so people like him and his millionaire friends can have health care and all the oiks can get sick and die off leaving even more resources for them.
What a complete COCK!
NPA1001 1 year ago
its fox who are talking to this guy ... nuff said
GeorgeP823 1 year ago
Would people like to pay $100 dollars for an inhaler in the UK?
I think not. The NHS acts as a buffer between the people and the drug companies by negotiating prices on medication.
If the NHS goes, prices of prescriptions will skyrocket and health insurance will too.
The NHS only has it's problems due to too much beurocracy and wasted public money (think hundreds of millions wasted on IT systems that didn't work).
Our healthcare worked for many years but the government bolloxed it up.
circleit 1 year ago
Id like to see this twat in poverty and in need of healthcare available only through insurance. If like to see what views he is espousing then.
Andythecat11 1 year ago
To any Americans watching this, whatever your views on healthcare, Daniel Hannan is viewed as a total joke in Britain. No one of any intellect, even within his own party, takes him seriously. And the NHS, despite it's failings, is viewed as a national treasure. You know why he kept getting asked on so many US news programmes to talk about the NHS? Becasuse they couldnt find anyone else from the UK to criticise it.
PolemicSource 1 year ago 11
2:26 DON'T read the daily mail!!! It's a national joke, well known for spouting nonsense for the sake of creating controversy. It basically plays into the british trait of enjoying a good moan by giving us something (innacurate and generally rediculous) to moan about.
missgracegallagher 1 year ago
"As long as you have a socialistic system, no amount of extra spending is going to rescue it" We should take care of each other because that's what we want to do, not because we are forced to. Being forced to just fosters and nurtures an environment of avarice: not charity. Those will money will always be able to afford it. And it will never obliterate the real need for charity anyway: we will always need to take care of our neighbor, no matter how much is being poured into the system.
Esperance1964 1 year ago
The NHS is ending the right of patients to see a family doctor within 48 hours and axing the 18-week target covering the period from hospital referral to start of treatment. Both were key planks of the Labour government's health policy, which had used large cash injections and targets to improve the NHS.
Soon we will live in the dark ages like the UK - a third world country!
thefiveneals 1 year ago
The UK must have honest and more competent politicians than the US does... our gov't is so porly managed we flush $ down to toilet all the time... Glad Social Health Care works for you - in the USA it's won't.
thefiveneals 1 year ago
I like Daniel Hannan and tend to agree with a lot of what he says but even I have to take issue with him here. The NHS has its failings and it does no good to anybody to pretend that isn't the case but it has led to a lot of good for the people of the UK and that shouldn't be forgotten. I think there are far better healthcare systems we could have adopted but its going a bit far to travel abroad and talk about the NHS like its a disaster. The benifits of the NHS should not be dismissed so easily
fitzro 1 year ago
Fuck this prick.Even the leader of the conservative party publically denounced him.He's an insignificant little troll and the daily mail is a piece of shit.
Those that oppose free healthcare in the US are motivated by greed.They will stoop to any possible low to prevent the people from having a right to fucking LIVE.I .My dad has had terrible health problems over the past few years which put him out of work,if it weren't for the NHS he wouldn't be here.
vivicazero1 1 year ago
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Wow Hannan, why not make the whole thing private and it'll run just as smoothly as our transport systems? I love when the presenter says "I read the Daily Mail..."
csvtom 1 year ago
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csvtom 1 year ago
dan hannan is an idiot, he has to be a european member of parliament bacause if he stayed in england his party would stand a chance. theres no market for our doctors if that is the case why do we bring in so many foreign doctors. he should just shut his big mouth the conservatives dont care less about the poor its always been the case. because the nhs supports everyone not just the elite they hate the idea.
geordieracer222 1 year ago
this dan bloke is a right twat
2walsall 1 year ago
Take a look at my video about Dan Hannan's slagging off of the nhs
watch?v=9v9XxPSHJkc
ourhandsaretied 1 year ago
having jest broken my arm in california, I can tell you that NHS treatment is faster, cheaper and conforms to a superior standard of care than is available in the USA.
skonkfactory 1 year ago
Oh, it's worth mentioning the NHS exists alongside private health care from the likes of BUPA. Often when you need specialist treatments you are referred to BUPA, at no cost. My mother had cancer, was referred to BUPA, it cleared. My brother was taken to BUPA by the ambulance service when his appendix was about to explode.
UnitedKingdomify 1 year ago
HA HA HA HA HA HA! "I read the DAILY MAIL!" HA HA HA! For all Americans watching this, the Daily Mail is a rank publication that thrives on spreading fear. Xenophobia, racism, fear, fear, fear. Imagine a paper that Hitler would publish... THAT'S that Daily Mail.
UnitedKingdomify 1 year ago
But the problem is you only get quality care in the United States if you can afford it. Remember not every employer provides health insurance to employees so those employees have to purchase their own. Now what happens if you don't make enough money to afford the premiums? well you simply go without insurance and hope like hell you don't get sick. The middle class can afford insurance, the poor get it for free, but it's the 50 million who fall in the middle that have to go without. it.
celticlofts 1 year ago
Dan. Sorry I called you David. You have a great PM. David Cameron. He loves his country and is working to get England back on track. You can be such an aset to him and England. You are both good men. Stand together and put England back on the map. Blessings on you both.
gtgale1 1 year ago
@gtgale1 I'm British and I have to let you know that Prime Minister David Cameron supports the NHS and socialised medicine in the UK. As a matter of fact, David Cameron's disabled son was taken care of by the NHS before he died. Our Prime Minister praised the NHS for looking after his son right up to his dying days. You Americans don't know anything about British politics. Just because he's the leader and PM of the conservative party doesn't mean he's conservative like the Republicans.
noorkhanuk85 1 year ago
@noorkhanuk85 and you seem to know little about American politics, the republicans(just like the tories) are no longer the conservative force they once were, infact, they are little different to any mainstreem party in western politics, they all answer to the same people. The only problem is, it's not the people they are employed to represent.
nothavingnoneofit 1 year ago
@nothavingnoneofit actually there is a huge difference between the american conservatives and european conservatives. European conservatives are just conservative and that's it. American conservatives are what you call 'neo-conservatives' which are like fascists. Why is it that american republicans strongly oppose universal healthcare whereas conservatives of almost every other western country support it? Cos the republicans are 'neo' and not normal conservatives like european ones.
noorkhanuk85 1 year ago
@noorkhanu85
Why apply any any substance to your argument when you can instead use political insults. Neo-con, fascist? you mean like John Mccain who is pushing for amnesty for illegal immigants or Meg Whitman who did a TV ad in spanish appealing to the mexican communities,etc?
Why do they oppose SOCIALISED(leftwing) health care? because their system works better than ours, just ask any UK family who's child has had to be treated in the US because the NHS didn't have the funds to help them.
nothavingnoneofit 1 year ago
....(cont)European conservatives(by the very definition of the word) are not very conservative at all, and I also think that you will find that Obamas Democrats(just like nu-Labour) can be far more accurately defined as being fascist than the Republican party.
nothavingnoneofit 1 year ago
@noorkhanuk85people like him because he speaks the truth instead of sugar coating things,,,just like farage,,,btw...the masses are ignorant..... thats why he isnt well liked not becuase hes wrong,,,he stands for principals and thats what matters... I dont aree with some of our american politicians but if they are honest and fight for freedom and they vote consistently with their head and not their wallet I am happy w them
candiceevans1 1 year ago
@candiceevans1 I don't know whether you've noticed yet but i'm british and he's not speaking the truth, neither is he speaking for the majority. The masses are not ignorant either. Still don't believe me? His own party leader Prime Minister David Cameron has also denounced him! He has been denounced by the PM himself! This guy is probably the only guy that fox news can find to interview from britain. Fox cannot find any other british conservative except this fucker.
noorkhanuk85 1 year ago
@gtgale1 What has Cameron achieved so far to justify you calling him great? He couldn't even achieve outright victory against the most corrupted, incompetent and downright evil government we have ever had(his 1st failure), and has already back out of election pledges. Wake up, you've been sold a dud.
nothavingnoneofit 1 year ago
David you are so right on. It's too bad other people don't have your common sense approach on life problems. You seem to have your head together. Bully for you. You will go a long way in the Political arena. Stand tall always and tell it like it is. God Bless England , David and The Queen.
gtgale1 1 year ago
chelbelle20...This man does NOT represent what most Brits think.
Probably true. Most of them are too thick to question the bullshit they are fed. Simple arguments like cutting money = bad are so much easier to swallow than the truth.
Free health-care. Good idea. Who pays? Where does the money come from? My taxes pay it, so I want a lean mean efficient body working for me, not a bureaucratic mess. So if the Tories can cut out all the outreach workers and diversity managers in the NHS then good.
Dripfed 1 year ago
Dan Hannan is communist the american health care is worst in eastern civilization
crazyfabio1 1 year ago
'Maybe Fox is going to restore a little bit of sanity into the debate'
Seriously?
pjafc 1 year ago
Daniel Hannan is a lying, piece of shit. End of. The NHS fucking rules, we spend less per person than the Yanks do, every person has a right to decent healthcare. Hannan you cunt, if you don't like Britain then get the fuck out. Wanker
SimonRich2 1 year ago
I raged so much. This fucker doesn't understand the pure amazingness of the NHS.
Cheedillow 1 year ago
it's a shame to see him classed as a representative of britain just because he is in the tiny minority of brits who agree with these right wing nutters.
scottishlad1987 1 year ago
If it weren't for the NHS I wouldn't be here now, for certain. I therefore wouldn't be able to call this man a twat.
Twat!
jacksawild 1 year ago 10
@jacksawild
haha, you act as if healthcare didn't exist before the NHS. Remember when and why the NHS was created? WW2 CLOWN!
tirmen8er 1 year ago
@jacksawild Dude u are so right, I am amazed that so many yanks believe they still have the best system in the world, chumps huh!.
michaelwalton81 1 year ago