I do wish people who know nothing about a process would stop thinking they can tell the people who have studied and worked in conservation for decades how to do things "properly" based on their watching a 5 minute youtube video and 25 seconds thought.
Do you think these people are stupid and have not considered doing things digitally? Are you so in love with yourself that you think only YOU have the intelligence to figure these things out? Jesus!
@peppeddu Printed film is an "analogue" medium, meaning that it has unlimited variations (or nuances) of brightness/colours compared to computer imagery which is ultimately limited in that ability. So, there are two elements which lead to the "superiority" of film: high resolution and unlimited color-depth. Not to mention that a roll of film takes up less space than the same amount of pictures as uncompressed video does. (Because any compression would sort of counteract those hi-res scans.)
@peppeddu It's partly a lofty disdain for electronic media of any sort within the filmic society of the BFI - even looking down at its own TV division as a b@stard son that they wish they could kill off, partly a union thing (film and TV unions, when they had the power, were always at loggerheads and detested each other's technology), plus even though optical restoration is preferable to a point, there is absolutely no objective justification for their wanton dismissal of digital techniques.
@uncled39 I sure am therefore I only ran tme 2x in my entire life and that was to ony to make a telecine transfer as long as the film is clean and the globe isnt as powerfull I mean i only ran a 400w lamp. transferred the film to DVD. and now its stored safely in the film cans.
Great to see that, really interesting process. I think they need to rip it all to DVD pretty damn quick before the fires of Hades burn 'Hurtford' to the ground. Much easier to fix on the computer, surely? ;-)
Digital restoration may be faster, but photochemical restoration is superior for most things. At any rate, even full HD digital transfers wouldn't do justice to the detail in a lot of those films.
thanks for sharing.interesting info
aslanli9339 1 month ago
Dry cleaning fluid! Who would've thunk it?
poughkeepsiejohn1 1 month ago
SEE "CINEMA PARADISO" TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
MANTLEBERG 6 months ago
HURTFURDSHURE ??????
MANTLEBERG 6 months ago
I do wish people who know nothing about a process would stop thinking they can tell the people who have studied and worked in conservation for decades how to do things "properly" based on their watching a 5 minute youtube video and 25 seconds thought.
Do you think these people are stupid and have not considered doing things digitally? Are you so in love with yourself that you think only YOU have the intelligence to figure these things out? Jesus!
BobTheMunificent 1 year ago
Quick, someone tell those guys that there are computers in these days.
Seriously, why in the world they don't digitize all 5 copies and get the best frames digitally?
Forget 1080p If they are paranoid about resolution they can digitize the film in 2k or 4k and they can get a scan of each molecule of the film.
Then with the computer they can get even parts of each frame, and best of all IT WON'T DEGRADE AGAIN.
I can't believe it they are doing it by hand !!!
peppeddu 1 year ago
@peppeddu Printed film is an "analogue" medium, meaning that it has unlimited variations (or nuances) of brightness/colours compared to computer imagery which is ultimately limited in that ability. So, there are two elements which lead to the "superiority" of film: high resolution and unlimited color-depth. Not to mention that a roll of film takes up less space than the same amount of pictures as uncompressed video does. (Because any compression would sort of counteract those hi-res scans.)
DerKork 1 year ago
@peppeddu It's partly a lofty disdain for electronic media of any sort within the filmic society of the BFI - even looking down at its own TV division as a b@stard son that they wish they could kill off, partly a union thing (film and TV unions, when they had the power, were always at loggerheads and detested each other's technology), plus even though optical restoration is preferable to a point, there is absolutely no objective justification for their wanton dismissal of digital techniques.
BizMarkUK 11 months ago
I own 2 nitrate films one made in 1948 and the other made in 1923
577billo 1 year ago
@577billo Aren't you worried about fire?
uncled39 11 months ago
@uncled39 I sure am therefore I only ran tme 2x in my entire life and that was to ony to make a telecine transfer as long as the film is clean and the globe isnt as powerfull I mean i only ran a 400w lamp. transferred the film to DVD. and now its stored safely in the film cans.
577billo 11 months ago
@577billo Just out of interest, what are on the two nitrate films you own?
uncled39 11 months ago
Great to see that, really interesting process. I think they need to rip it all to DVD pretty damn quick before the fires of Hades burn 'Hurtford' to the ground. Much easier to fix on the computer, surely? ;-)
mcp666 1 year ago
@mcp666
Digital restoration may be faster, but photochemical restoration is superior for most things. At any rate, even full HD digital transfers wouldn't do justice to the detail in a lot of those films.
wado1942 1 year ago
Oh look at all of that nirate film!
Dakkiller1 2 years ago
are they at least paid for doing this?
StevenCojocaru 2 years ago