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  • Hmmm... well, you started off well - the Allegro di molto e con brio section was ok, but you need to work on the mordants. I totally understand about the fatigue, it is a real bitch once you finished the first run through - but you MUST repeat that section, it irks me when pianists are too lazy to do so. And that is when I stopped watching to write this comment. I hope that as it's 5 years later, you have improved on it. Post another video to show us where you are with it now ;)

  • Dude you rock so hard.  Thanks for putting the effort into these performances!

  • That was not a 'pathetique' attempt at the piece at all! ;)

  • quit the piano myabe you should play heavy metal

  • I really enjoyed the performance! I am learning this piece as well and I really like your emotion towards the 2:00 mark. Its nice to hear lots of different impressions of the same piece! You seem to play the first part faster than most, but still very very good!

  • great emotion

  • i learned this piece, its a very promising song :)

  • wow.....

  • im learning this piece! and cant wait to finish it!!

  • Bravo !

  • Sounds great to me.....I wouldn't know a wrong note if I heard it though....extreme amateur student.....I can't even read music.......so your talent is extraordinary to me.

  • Great ! You're my favourite pianist on youtube =)

  • Great job ! I'm playing this piece myself, so I like to hear other interpretations of it. There were a lot of wrong notes in here, but you probably have it all cleaned up by now. ;)

  • Sounds great!

  • Das übt meine Mama auch ......

  • You lost me at the beginning.

  • The breaks at the beginning made me grimace. This piece is very grim and you made it sound kind of light, but otherwise it sounds great.

  • good but the opening part u play it to heavy and to fast.

    put more feeling :D

    at 2:17 impressive play i like it ::D

  • eres maravilloso que entrega !

    

  • It was very good, but you needed to use a *lot* more pedal in the first 30 seconds or so. The powerful opening chords were cruelly cut short. You may play it differently now, I don't know.

  • Let that powerful Cm chord decay into piano. You lifted your hands which immediately takes away from the intro. Overall, pedaling needs work and you need to put more color into the allegro section. This is a very very difficult piece. I would suggest you listen to the recording done by Alfred Brendl not to copy the style but to get a sense what color means in Beethoven's pieces.

  • @kobetiha preach it!

  • good work with tremolandos because you inserted it well and got the correct way of playing the tremolandos very professional

  • I love this song! great performance!!

  • I totally know what you mean with the arm fatigue!!!!!!!!!

    especially at 1:45 (tempo 1)

    oh god it kills my left hand when i play it up to tempo

    you did at great job with 2:16 though! I love that part but I have problems with keeping it in tempo >_<

    hahaha well I have a long ways to go........

    great job!!!!!!!!! I love it!!!!!!!!!!

  • where can i find the sheet music?

  • Hi chocotiger! you and i have the same piano! ']"This piece was really tough for me, mainly because of the fatigue in my arms caused my the repetitive notes and jumps. Its hard to focus when it feels like your arms are gonna fall off, oh well, at least I finished."

    Congratulations on finishing! did u get past the pain in ur arms after? if so, how? i really need to know coz i hav weak arms and they really do hurt after a while (during the piece... esp during the left hand tremolos ahhh!) :)

  • @jujudizzle very quickly open and close ur hand as fast as u can for as long as u can. itll start to burn when uve done it about enough

  • everyone who dislikes this is a fag. you played this beautifully.

  • @xxstephaniejay Compared to scott joplin stuff, this is pretty disappointing. Lots of uncharacteristic small mistakes and uneven tempo at various stages. I don't think he practiced this as much as his other work.

  • doesnt the repeat after 3:25 bring you back to the second page, not the beginning?

  • yeah, but can you put a carburetor back together? Just kidding. GREAT work!!!!!! I admire your technique and skill.

  • how long have you been playing?

  • Amazing. This is one of my favourite pieces and I hope to one day be able to play it as well as you do.

  • fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!

    

  • AMAZING

  • just beginning to learn this song, just finished up maple leaf rag. is fantasie impromptu significantly easier than the pathetique? i'd say their somewhat even right?

  • @mrfreshmint Not even close. I picked up Pathetique within a few weeks. I finished Impromptu within 2~3 months and it STILL is lacking. It is an incredibly intricate and technical composition. Just learning how to play the 16th notes against the triplets will throw you if you aren't ready for it. Beethoven's sonata is much more straightforward. Though I will say that if you have Pathetique down, you're ahead of the game for learning Impromptu. =)

  • @Kaggypants I've been working on the Pathetique for a few weeks now...and i'm sorry for using the wrong "their" it bothers me when others do it...but um...it's very difficult... i do NOT believe you finished the pathetique in a few weeks...if you are...you're amazing..but i seriously doubt that. nobody, not professionals, not even beethoven could do that..

  • @mrfreshmint Hm I'm sorry. A few weeks was inaccurate. I think I maybe meant to write months. But this song isn't as difficult as you seem to think! It has repetition and only a slight amount of technical elements added to it. The tremolos and trills are the only hard parts IMO. The pace is easy since it is slower than Impromptu. After playing some of Chopin's harder pieces, this really isn't that difficult. :\

    May I ask what sections you are having trouble with?

  • @Kaggypants I think the only tough part ( for me personally) is after section B and it returns to a variation of A on the 2nd last page, thats when the muscles in the wrist really start to hurt but other than that not a difficult piece scale ratings i've seen are 7/10

  • @jarry161290 Are you speaking of Impromptu or Pathetique? Both can be pretty stressful but Impromptu gives you a brief rest in the adagio cantabile section whereas Pathetique has very few places to 'rest'.

  • @Kaggypants o_O I don't think I mentioned impromptu I was refering to section A2 of the Grave (1st movement) of Pathetique, theres a part where it repeats the famous entry that was heard at the beginning of the piece after the chromatic you know where?

  • @jarry161290 You entered into a discussion that was discussing Impromptu's difficulty in relation to Pathetique. :P

    The section you're referring to is at 4:50 yes?

  • @mrfreshmint Actually professionals could probably learn this technically in about a day...I know Zimerman learnt Chopin's second Scherzo technically in two days, so I doubt this movement would be very difficult to learn for him :L

  • @mrfreshmint BTW, if you need more proof...check out choco's version of Impromptu. He plays Pathetique quite well but his Impromptu is lacking in places (actually sounds very similar to mine).

  • WOW! your freakin awesome

  • Heh so many comments trying to offer constructive criticism. Half probably cannot play the first 40 measures of this. Well done. Love your dynamics like always.

  • my face ---> O.o

    it was very clean!! good job!

  • Beautiful!!!!!

  • it's great! really well played.

  • I'm in love.

  • Impressive dynamics, also impressive performance. But I agree with the comments made earlier; relax your wrists and arm fatigue will become a thing of the past for you

  • just Great

  • extremely perfect... amazing Ô.ô

    even mistakes are beautifull in your hands

    5 stars and fave

  • do you have a teacher with you?

  • he is doing this my memorization to, that is extremely impressive. I do agree with both baee215 and blaekflauer, please relax your left arm and wrist. It might just help:3

  • Very good interpretation i love it

  • Bene

    stai attento a 1.21. devi levare la sinistra molto prima resta solo la destra.

    Riccardo Bianchi

  • enjoyed it a lot!

  • Ehi! Good enough, but bae215 is right! U should relax your left arm and hand, u're just contracted and it is much harder playing this way!

  • Amazing! I hope to be able to play this in a few years. It's my favourite sonata.

  • Good brave you are that posted your playing... If you are enjoying playing, and it looks like you are, that is what matters... Good luck to you.

  • I can see why you are complaining about your left arm being stiff. You are doing the tremolo wrong. Please relax your wrist and shoulders. Stay in the keys. and I seriously mean stay IN the keys. You are wasting energy by hovering... and remember to emphasize the strong beats, even in the left hand... or else it sounds a little dull. Should be like this (LH): C-c-c-c-C-c-c-c-C-c-c-c. Emphasize the large C...

  • Extremely impressive

  • Great job! Better than what I could ever do! This looks difficult.

  • gr8 job man

    i don't think i could ever do this

  • Bravisimo! Truly remarkable! If you haven't begun your career in music yet, the music world is truly missing out on your rare & wonderful talent! Thanks for posting this. I truly enjoyed it. Cheers! :-)

  • wow!

    ur amaaaZing!!!

    braVo!!!!

    :]

  • This is Great! Well done

  • wow this is great if you consider the fact that you obviously don't call yourself perfect. Keep on and you will be a star!

  • Ha sido una interpretacion Excelente, sin duda eres un gran pianista, te felicito y gracias por esta joya.

  • Si alguien va a comentar que este wey toca mal, antes suba su video tocando esta misma pieza musical.

    En mi opinion, tocas el piano muy bien

  • Tomando en cuenta la obra eres muy bueno

  • how did beethoven right this when he was deaf wtf?

  • he wasnt actually deaf at this point

    he starts to lose his hearing around opus 57

  • he wasn't deaf yet

  • I am not an expert, just a fan of Beethoven, so my opinion may not be professional. I must say your performance was great and your did my favourite part at 2.17 just amazingly beautiful.

  • Está lleno de notas falsas en la mano derecha, y los problemas mecánicos de la ejecución no están bien resueltos.

  • since 1:41 your left handis too loud dude. but I know its hard ;)

    4½ Stars ;)

  • My piano teacher told me to "take a look" at this piece while he was away, so I looked it up to see what it sounded like...

    Haha, oh man, I've got a lot in store.

  • it isnt too hard, just fast.

    you are lucky you have a piano teacher!

    i dropped my piano teacher, but kept going, and i regret it ever since. it looks like you are young, so, take my advice, USE EVERY OPPORTUNITY!

  • no, its pretty hard. it's also fast and EXTREMELY long and fatiguing. overstating that is really hard.

  • You are still alive Beethoven

  • Fuck what ya' heard, dog. that shit is tight. I can totally dig on Pathetique. Where's the other 3/4s of the song, though?

  • good posture, but throughout this piece, i think you can generate more excitement by just kicking up the tempo a few ticks or something. Some parts are nice, slow and expressive. But I think some parts aren't really "frantic' enough. But, u dont have to take my advice. Im not playin this sonata. Im playing op. 10 no. 1 which has a lot more explosiviness to it and such. Have funn playing beethoven!! He's Great!!

  • I agree regarding a little more in the tempo. Not a lot, just a touch.

  • errata interpretazione, mediocre amatoriale

  • great job!

  • fantastic !

  • you are doing my fafrout part excelent !! and i real like on dis version is the part from 4:51 - 5:11 my fafrout part in dis song ! really nice did wow man !

  • A very powerful and dynamic performance. Well done indeed. Thank you for posting one of my favourites. Keep up the great work.

  • Sounds pretty good. It could use some more slow practice, or a less ambitious tempo after the Grave. But, very skillful indeed

  • I know that Pathetique doesn't literally mean pathetic (it means with passion) but I couldn't help thinking 'that was anything but pathetic"!

  • Wonderful!

  • yeah I know what you mean when you say your arms get tired like that. well I'm just a beginner at it so I gain more experience before I try something like that.

  • Man oh man, what I wouldn't give to learn to play like that...I absolutely adore the piano! Alas, my heart lies with my guitars. If I have to focus on one instrument, it's going to be them. Haha anyway, this is wonderful! Take pride in your talent my man! And whatever you do, don't stop rockin! Er, whatever classical musicians call it...(:

  • Keep on, woodin!?

  • how do you do that???

  • you are the greatest person alive

  • good man

  • So I'm learning this right now and I always refer back to this video when I'm not certain how it's supposed to sound! great job!

  • with all that composing, beethoven must have been buff with the full arm workout!

    anyhow nice playing!

  • Omg

    I wanna play this song now...

    Really nice job!

  • Really nice!

  • Good job, very powerful and dynamics. Love it!

  • wow.

    I'm staring at the sheet music.

    and I feel like i should start crying

    thank you for posting, know i know what it's suppose to sound like.

    (a billion times faster than i thought XD)

  • awesome

  • This was fantastic!! I was absolutely entranced watching you. Bravo!

  • whooot GANGSTER

    echt niet normaal die gast....

    echt super....

    your amazing :D

    5 stars

  • I don't understand how to move the left hand that fast. I know you just twist it like side to side as if you were turning a doorknob but my wrist stubbornly wont move that fast =[

  • I agree. Please learn some manners.

  • Well, actually, there are strict rules for music. And if one doesn't play by them, he will never be considered a top pianist.

    AND he wasn't really contradicting himself when he said one has to put his heart and soul into the music.

    between the rules and notes are gaps. gaps, which the author left open for individualism, forgot or just couldn't express with the usual notes.

    This is where the 'heart' comes in. BUT, to do that one has to be extremely good with the basics and the ground rules.

  • 5 stars :D

  • no wonder you exhausted after playing this... loosen your wrist!!! it does wonders... seriously though...

  • That was really nice!

    One question, what is the meaning of "pathetique"? coz when I first saw that I thought it was some fancy way of spelling "pathetic" o.o

  • lol that is what it means in German :)

  • no it means with expression and emotions i think

  • u needa practice more..before u post this video online...

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  • WOW!

    This is absolutely wonderful!

    I love this piece.

    I want to play it SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOOO BADLY.

  • anyone if there's free sheet music for this online?

  • men READ the score!!! you are soo good, but READ READ... i dont now how said in english but : some body : LIGADURAS!!!

  • Beautiful.  Thank you!

  • I finished this piece lately =P and I was looking around on youtube for other people playing this, and so I came to this vid again. And I noticed.. that at 6:25 when you play the first measure of the last "Grave" part that you play Bb instead of B xD and you play the Bb when u had to play another C =O But still.. it's great though! xD

  • he made more mistakes than that... but oh well... i applaud you for attempting this piece, it's very challenging...

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  • verry good

  • Bloody Hell!! 1:43 onwards is absolutly mental! how long did it take you to do that?

  • muy bien tocado

  • GOT TO BE THE BEST

  • That was gorgeous!! Very well done. I just started learning this with my piano teacher.

  • wow i thought i was good at Fur Elise -.-

    it really seemed like you were becoming one with the piano o_o

  • You do some really good things here. It's obvious you love Beethoven! Suggestion: try to record on a better instrument if you can. This piano sounds really tinny!

  • No way. Substance over style. This is real...touch the face of God. How awesome and inspiring. To see it on a Yamaha, its real.

    I goota learn this tune.

  • "Substance over style"--to be a good musician you have to have both. Certainly Beethoven did.

  • lmao the way you get up at the end expresses All of your fatigue.

    I play this song & maple leaf rag, too. You have more stamina than me -- and I can't seem to develop it at all.

    Good job, though.

  • good job man

  • That's really good.You've made a nice effort man.Dont worry your good all thru the piece, except for a bar or two.And I think you need a little bit expression too.Overall its better than good.Great!.......How much it took you to practise this Movement ?

  • amazing...

  • aaah, ni lo quiero terminar de ver, que mal toca!!!! uso excesivo del pedal, no le entiendo nada en el Allegro... una prueba de que cualquiera que se puede hacer llamar pianista... bah!

  • I love this piece, I'm learning it right now as a hight school senior. some advice--from my piano teacher to you, watch your counting of the chords at the begining, hold them their full value, and watch the volume of your left hand--it is sometimes too overpowering. Otherwise, its great to see someone else's interpretation of this amazing sonata--i hope that I can get it up to the speed you have.

  • i'm waiting for you....still...

  • ok let's do it.

  • mediocre pianista...mejor quita ese video...mejora tu discurso melodico...y despues vuelvela a subir...

  • I bet he plays WAY better than you do.

  • uffizzi... You really are priceless. *sigh

  • Five stars just for finishing the damn piece!

  • good! but those intro chords should be played legato! aside from the rests of course.

  • Holy sh....!! You're straight ballin'!

  • Very nice, I'm learning this piece and it goes fine until the point at about 2:50 n this video, that it just sorta falls apart...

  • I play that part like, listening to my left hand and let my right hand play along. O.o And practice slowly first of course.

  • BRAVO! i love this piece most from Beethoven... XD

  • You're way better at this melody than I am, so I say this in complete respect.

    I'd like to hear it slower by you. This theme is about emotion less than skill... and the emotions this song brings forth are seldom as fast as you were playing it. I'd love to hear you play it with your whole existence riding on the line of your fingertips. Bring forth the feelings with a slow rise, is my only suggestion!

  • The people who leave negative comments dont leave video responses i have noticed ! well it proves the old saying...if you cant do..teach..if you cant teach...critizize !

    I say Bravo!*applause* excellent playing..as usual from this very talented guy!

    Thanks chocotiger for the pleasure its been listening to you.

  • Great job!!! I love it! many would be so lucky to play it like you! I only wish I could have heard Beethoven play it himself!!

  • Awesome playing! Don't listen to the mean folk. If you enjoy playing the piece then that's all that matters, whether mistakes were made or not. Thanks for putting this video up, I'm learning this piece just now and it helps to hear how it's supposed to sound lol :P

  • This is fantastic! Thanks for sharing.

  • watch alexander peskanov play pathetique.you'll be amazed

  • DO CARALHO!!! MUITO BOM!!!!

    Um dia eu chego lá!

  • Bravo

  • I wish I could play the piano!

  • And after all, playing Beethoven, would be paradise

  • Really? I would find it terrible - everything beethoven has composed has so much potential beauty and no musician could ever be content with his own performance of one of those pieces. It would drive me mad if I'd try to play Beethoven.

  • beethoven might have been a bigger genius than einstien...Beethoven rocked

  • I wouldn't say Beethoven was more of a genius than Einstein, both men represent the pinnacle of their respective fields.

  • I wouldn't say Beethoven was more of a genius than Einstein, both men represent the pinnacle of their respective fields.

  • I remember when this video barely had a couple of views...

    Keep up the good work.

  • i like putting agressive emotion into pieces :D you do it very well :) <3

  • The left hand is curved up so try to staightn it out on this piece.

  • I like the beginning. I start to notice a number of mistakes halfway through though. I suppose those are due to fatigue? You don't have to begin from the first page if your hands get tired halfway. I would go back to the beginning like Kempf,but if your arms/hands can't take it yet, then you probably shouldn't...at least when you are showing and not practicing.

  • I know how difficult this piece is-i know exactly what you mean about the arms falling off part...by the time i get to the trills on 7th page or so...its painful...Very good job. Nobody but those savant maniacs like gould or brendel can play this without any mistakes...i commend you thoroughly.

  • ahaha. i have the same piano. very nice. XD