Inside The Alesis DM10 (Medeli DD-602) Trigger Pads

[adrumdude]

wich one is a better drum kit Alesis dm10 or Roland td-4k2? as in durable

[HellfireDrums]

@adrumdude

I've never owned a Roland td-4k2. So I really can't compare the durability of the two. The best advice I can give you is to find a music store that sells both and try them for yourself. I hope that helps.

[MetalAlbatross]

Can this be used with a Yamaha DTXpress IV Special?

[HellfireDrums]

@MetalAlbatross

I don't see why the trigger pad wouldn't work with the Yamaha. You may be only able to use the single zone as the yamaha modules use switches for the rim zones. I hope that helps.

[MetalAlbatross]

@HellfireDrums Thanks man! Single Zone is good enough for me, I'll only be using them as tom pads!

[quartzuk]

nice one, is the DD602 different from the DD512 ?

[rockexpert]

double bass compatible?

[HellfireDrums]

@rockexpert

Yes.

[rockexpert]

@HellfireDrums Sweet:)

[JungaJonathan]

hey there i too have the same problem, only thing im intrested is switching to mesh heads and keeping the dual trigger system aswell. i would be very intrested in seeing a detailed construction ...

MRmesmetin

[MRmesmetin]

@JungaJonathan hello!right now i,am far away from home.i.am in spain´,i.am romanian.but i can tell what you do. carefully remove the metal plate ,the piezo will remain atached by plastic disc,and rearange the pad inside like this:on the bottom you put the black foam,the one with hole inside,then the plastic disc with piezo,the wires cames in bottom,then the mouse pad and finally the white foam.....is easy and is no need to cut any wires, this upgrades are working good for 8 inch pads,,,,,,

[MRmesmetin]

@JungaJonathan for the pad snare is necesary an aditional plastic disc ,to be more sensitivity on the edges...near rim....ok? the plastic needs to be as the same diameter of the metal plate you removed from snare pad...ok?

is very is to do.............if you have any questions ....let my know!!!!

[MRmesmetin]

hello mikey! i also have an alesis dm 10 kit and i was very disapointed when i heared the pads sounds acoustically.too much noise...and i decided to upgraded them......so i rearanged the pads components[after seing your video]i cut out the metal plate and the resault is very very good...more sensitivity[triggers sensitivity are set to 20],avoiding crosstalking,feel more naturally,..and is no need to change the mylar head.....if someone is interested i will post an video detailed construction ...

[nikodex]

My God it works great! Unbelievable. Let me tell what I did. I already had dual zone so I didn't have to do any soldering or cutting wires. I simply cut everything with scissors, reordered parts and added some cheap paper at bottom. Upgrading one pad took max 5 minutes and damn the result is one big wow!! Thank you so much :)

[nikodex]

The pieces in this pad are different than in the pad you fixed in the upgrade video. Do I still have to try to follow those instructions? Also i'm thinking about ordering TDRUM 08" TRIGGER MESH FELL from thomann.de. Will they do?

[HellfireDrums]

@nikodex

If the inside of your triggers are different, then this video will not help. You may want to check out my other video: "Alesis DM10 Pro Kit Mesh Head Upgrade". Any brand mesh head should work. Some just last longer than others. I hope that helps.

[nikodex]

@HellfireDrums

No, I have this same pad myself. What I meant was do those instructions on the "Alesis DM10 Pro Kit Mesh Head Upgrade" video apply on this pad too? They are a bit different right?

Thank you so much for your help.

[HellfireDrums]

@nikodex

Yes, they apply. There may be some very slight differences but the bulk of the video applies. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

[MrVispi]

Hi, is good for Alesis DM5 pad?

[HellfireDrums]

@MrVispi

Yes, The DM5 pads are very similar. The only difference is the trigger mounting. The insides are the same. I hope that helps.

[Mart1nwalker]

Hey dude cheers for this.

I've done it and you can see and hear the results in my DM10 drum cover vids on here

Thanks again

[axel1973w]

too much parts. check out ROLAND V-Drums like the TD9KX, TD12KX or TD20KX for the HIGH ENDERS. I LOVE IT!

[ArjTwitMusic]

I read somewhere that the Medeli DD-602 is the same as the Fame DD-602.

Just wondering, is it the same or is the brand "Fame" a low-budget Musicstore.de brand?

Thanks

[HellfireDrums]

@ArjTwitMusic

I just looked up the Fame DD-602. I not 100% sure but from the pictures it looks to be the same type of Medeli pad. The brand name Fame might be owned by Musicstore.de but it look as if the Fame DD-602 is just a rebranded version of the Medeli DD-602. If I was a betting man, I would say those are the same triggers. No way for me to tell without seeing one opened up however. I hope the helps.

[ArjTwitMusic]

@HellfireDrums

Very helpful, especially the fact that you replied almost instantly!

Appreciate it!

[bubbadrump]

So where can I get the "mouse pad" material you mentioned that should be changed? Also do you need to tape it back to the medal or can you just place it in there? Also could that mouse pad stuff be too thick to pic up the hits?

[HellfireDrums]

@bubbadrump

Any office supply store. I don't think you will need to tape it down. As long as the pad is no more than a 1/4 inch think you will be fine. I hope that helps.

[HellfireDrums]

@bubbadrump

Any office supply store. I don't think you will need to tape it down. As long as the pad is no more than a 1/4 inch thick you will be fine. I hope that helps.

[HellfireDrums]

@bubbadrump

Any office supply store. I don't think you will need to tape it down. As long as the pad is no more than a 1/4 inch thick you will be fine. I hope that helps.

[HellfireDrums]

Unfortunately, you can not just changed the mylar head to a mesh head. For a more detailed conversion of this pad see "Alesis DM10 Pro Kit Mesh Head Upgrade" I did.

[meltdownband]

could you just replace the mylar head with a mesh head without changing anything?

[AAAwith3Aznot4]

thanks for this vid! my snare has been make'n a clicking noise every time i hit it, ive been hitting that stupid steel plate.

[polosev]

foam replaceing is a BIG put off.sounds like another cheap kit.having to maintain after 1 to 3 performances.alesis builds a kit this good and forgets to put a radiator in the engine?

[gibson00000000000000]

im thinking of getting this kit, the alesis dm10 studio(same kit, a little different, but the same drumhead), and im just wondering, if i play about an hour a day, and play a little hard on the heads, how long will it have to be when i have to replace the head? and is there anyway to make the heads more durable? and how do i install a roland or pearl mesh head into it?(do i just quickly change the top head, or is there more to it?) thank you, and please reply

[HellfireDrums]

@gibson00000000000000

The heads would need to be changed out as often as an acoustic set of drums would be, about every year.

As for changing out the head to mesh, I just put up a video about this entitled: Alesis DM10 Pro Kit Mesh Head Upgrade. Try searching for it and it should answer your question. I hope that helps.

[gibson00000000000000]

thanks, but i saw the video, it was pretty long, and it was more info about changing it to a dual-trigger pad, and if i tried to do the thing on the video about changing the heads, i knew i would mess up on it, so can i just replace the mylar head with a simple mesh head, in other words, can i just unscrew the the head rim, take of the default mylar head, and then slip on a mesh head?

[solemate40]

Foam has to be changed about every couple weeks? Thats a big no no right there. I was a bit interested in this set but after hearing this.... I don't think so...

[bilgueits]

I wonder why that for showing these kind of pads you use a bass drum pad.

[HellfireDrums]

@bilgueits - It just happen to be the first one on the set I grabbed to take a part. I hope that helps.

[bilgueits]

@HellfireDrums as long as the others are constructed the same way it helps. One question: how is the metal disk joined with the plastic disk ? tape, foam tape ? is there any foam between the metal disk and the plastic disk ? thank you.

[HellfireDrums]

They are constructed the same. The clear plastic disk is attached with thin foam tape (which can be seen in the video). The plastic disk never touches the metal disk. It is really a good design. This should be all visible in the video. At least I think it is? I hope that helps.

[bilgueits]

@HellfireDrums Maybe you said it in the video but since I dont understand english very well.... The thing is that in the video it seems like there is black tape (like the one you use for electric wiring) joining the metal disk to the plastic disk. I understood your explanation and it makes much sense to me this design. Thank you.

[AbreValas]

Hey Phil. This video is awesome. I'm going to buy a used DD-602 to do some DIY and was wondering what was the best way to add a second piezo for the rim. Problem solved :). And I'm with you, these pads are awesome for DIY, specially for making them dual-zone mesh pads.