90w LED UFO Comparison 400w HPS

[steveeb1269]

have you done the same test with a 400MH, instead of the HPS? i think then the results would not be the same, though i dont think led could not be better than either.

[nemen91]

so... is the ufo led better?

[jaylpp12]

does your company ship to the uk

[mr47uk08]

ofcourse you grow tomatos (y) :)

[GreenOuthouse]

i like your vid..i've been playing with plants for many years..i'm currently growing a tomato plant with just 4w...seriously..lol one 4w HPLED....when/if i ever get the time i'll make a vid myself &show you..it's about 6in with 3 nodes right now.my light reserch is kinda like the way people used to grow plants in dirt,& how we used to use water (alot of waste)compared to how we now use water, ie hydroponics(little loss)anyway.again,nice vid..peace.

[telluride1]

thanks for the video i was skeptic about gettin a LED light i was leaning towards more towards a 600watt hps/mh light but now i think im gonna get the LED one

[OmNomNomNomNomNomism]

what is the price difference? I install LED lights in inground pools and they are extremely expensive and once they break from leak or other its over. They retail at about 600$. Are LED UFO's that expensive?

[GaryKoeppe]

hps is red spectrum better for flowers, mh is better for vegetables.

[TheHempoilsoldier]

wow please dont move to california

finally a supplier in new york

[marvelous211]

See make bigger differene

[stellthmode]

was the 630 nm red that beat the other ones, the only one that was triband?

[fuxyourmom]

the 630nm red that won was that a red spectrum only lamp or a dual or triband model? and what is the manufacturer of the winning light i noticed that that question has been asked many times on here but i can't seem to find the answer?

[SunlightSheds]

It was a triband led with 7:1:1 ratio of red, blue, orange.

We are not going to disclose the manufacturer, as it was stated before, as we did the research, and chose the best one as our main product we distribute.

[BiZZiEBucKZ]

@SunlightSheds thnk U!!

[TrueAeroponicSystems]

@SunlightSheds I have read that the green light is important with red and blue light, so why do you have not green light but orange light?

[maptlbh]

did you try an 850nm or 1500nm LASERs ?

[pietro5151]

I have a question... do you think the results would change with multiple plants versus just one plant

[oldtiedyeman]

Over the past two years I have bought five of these lights and just could not be any happier. One good thing about these is that you can add them as needed. I gave one of them to my mon for christmas last year to grow cherry tomatoes with. It works great for her. She has to trim back on it because otherwise it would just take over the entire room.

[007420311]

alright so lets get a comparison on what manufacturer makes the best LED lights then

[SunlightSheds]

That we cannot disclose, hence that is what separates us from our competitors, and of course we put in the effort.

[mfuji02]

nice thank you SunlightSheds!

[Energi2DmaxX]

LED lights just cost to much! while hps has the penetration power, can we try this with larger plants?

[SunlightSheds]

We sell these lights for $199, which is the same or lower than most hps lighting systems over 250 watts.

We may try it again with larger plants and different parameters.

[cptcosmo]

Nice to know that 1W 630nm LEDs are the best spectrum frequency-wise for growthWhat surprises me most is that two 630nm units performed worse than the single 630nm unit. Can there be such a thing as too much light, disregarding temperature?

[SunlightSheds]

As mentioned below, the 2 LED units were made by another manufacturer, which we originally didn't take into account, but later found they were lower quality lights.

[GrandHustle247]

Would you mind stating the two poor manufacturers and which is the Manufacturer of the 630nm unitsthat performed best!

[SunlightSheds]

I do not believe there can be too much. Again, the poor performing lights were a different manufacturer.

[gsxrpit1]

can i change an led bulb in my ufo?

is it hard to change

[AinSophAur31]

You can change a bulb in it, However it would be a lot of work to just change 1 single LED light. I'm assuming its tied into a circuit board to keep the LED's neat.

On average LED's run almost until 100'000 hours (not that i'm counting) although there are always bad bulbs that can get into the mix.

You would be better off either forgetting about it or just adding one of those jumbo 60watt CFL into the mix for extra light.

[cjay75217]

Finally a comparison video that has constant variables and is formatted well. Thank you guys and keep up the good work

[SunlightSheds]

We've actually performed similar tests with different lights on many occasions, this the only one we bothered recording, posting, etc.

[RealtorGregg]

Have you compared your 90w UFO against HTG Supplies LED UFO G3 grow light?

[crazynlazy22]

how did 1 630nm red perform better than 2 630nm reds? i would think that the more light given 2 the plants the more photosynthesis would take place no?

[SunlightSheds]

You need to read the earlier responses. The lights were made by different manufacturers, and we found that the unit using 2 of the 630's from one manufacturer was using lower quality bulbs.

[3dmundo]

LED is a good option for individ user

[boldswede]

So what make is the good one? link?

[EAsalazar4life]

hey sunlightsheds i have just received one of your led ufos and it looks amazing :) i have looked at multiple ufos but i decided to go with your as you guys seem to know what you guys talk about. anyway i have some t5 cool white and warm white tubs to go with my led. my question is with 1 ufo and 1 t5 cool and warm white tubes how many plants would i be able to grow efficiently under those lights?

[SunlightSheds]

It is isn't so much about how many plants, but rather square footage coverage. For example you could have many small plants or 1 large one. The t5's could be 2ft, 4ft, multiple tube, etc. You need more specifics. The LED 90w unit covers a 3x3 area very well. Keep as close to growing tips as possible.

[locc2233]

Hey sunlightsheds. what do you recommend using these lights with ? maybe hps on top and the leds on the sides? vice versa? t5'? i know its not nesscesary to use 2 diff lights but i just want to go take that "extra mile" so i can get extreme results!! yeah and have you heard of sulphur plasma lights? what are your opinions on those

[SunlightSheds]

You can use them as standalone lights. You don't really need side lighting or combo with an HID, but if you really feel the need for side lighting, then high quality T5 systems work OK as well. The sulphur plasmas I only know a small bit about, but they are very close to actual sunlight spectrum. I haven't done any PERSONAL tests, so I cannot confirm at this point their performance.

[brandynG23]

hey can you just tell me where you got the LED that did the best.. i would invest in one but only if i could get it from that company. cuz i always heard hps is way better but obviously if you do it the right way led works just as well.. so can u let me know where u got the good one from? lol or like let me buy yours from you hahaha

[NuubMaster]

im growing medical buds what do you think i shuld use and yes this is to you sunlightsheds im wondering how i can boom past compatition in quality not quantity

[whobdobub]

Hey Sunlight i would like to buy some LEDS

Can you tell me the difference between yours and hydrogrowled she claims hers are better.

Thanks for posting this video

[SunlightSheds]

I'm not familiar with them so I cannot tell you one way or another who has the best LED. I can only say that we tested over 20 MANUFACTURERS, NOT distributors, and chose the best unit for the one we carry. There are many out there claiming '8th generation' and ours are the best, but it really boils down to who has tested them and to what degree. Ask her for side by side time lapse comparisons to prove she is not just selling snake oil.

[davidxxxesp1]

great stuff thats done it for me im gertting 1

[cybersurfer6]

I would like to know the "NM" spectrum of the red, blue & orange of the UFO you sell on your website

Model #LEDUFO90

thanks

[SunlightSheds]

620-630;460-470;600-615

red blue orange

7:1:1

[14CPO]

problem with these lef lights is the high cost they sell at. THey are quite expensive

[chriffan]

Can you use it for aquariums?

[SunlightSheds]

It depends which kind of aquarium. If your referring to a freshwater tank consisting of mostly aquatic plants such as Amazon Swords and such, then YES.

If your referring to salt water, then most likely, no. The main reason is that a salt water environment requires much bluer spectrum of light to prevent the buildup of the wrong type of algae.

[SunlightSheds]

In addition water reduces light intensity/penetration in an immense way, thus the intensity of the LED's is probably not enough to reach to lower water depths of 12-24" (this is a guess, not a fact). Usually ONLY metal halide bulbs in a limited kelvin range is acceptable for saltwater tank plant life, and it is an interesting test you can run, but we cannot recommend. hope that helps!

[mainstsaint]

I purchased a Cool Cab w/ 2 90w UFO LED's. I am 1 month into flowering with great results. I have added 2 150w CFL's to the bottom of the unit to help growth at the bottom of the plants. I was, as many, a little hesitant to go with the LED's but I am happy I did. I've grown with a 400w MH/HPS in the past and am getting better results with the LED's. I am going to buy a 600w LED grow panel for my grow room and use the cool cab for my vegging and mother plants.

[fachevy]

Did the 630nm lamp only produce 1 more tomato? what was the total weight of harvested fruit? What is the maximum footprint and distance form canopy of the ufo's?

[SunlightSheds]

yes 1 more tomato than the hps. We did not weigh the harvested fruit, but rather just the overall plant weight with the tomatoes attached. However, the tomatoes on the LED unit were a bit larger in general as well. The UFO's were 2-3 inches from the growing tips on average and the footprint was restricted by the grow tent, which was a 2x2 foot pattern. However, great coverage is still achieved in a 3x3-4x4.

[softcollision]

You wouldnt typically use a HPS light during vegetative growth on a plant because the light it produce is at the wrong end of the spectrum. They are more useful for the flowering/blooming stages. For vegetative growth you want to use a MH light that produces the blue light in the light spectrum that helps with growth in that early stage

[SunlightSheds]

that is true, but hps can be used to grow well in both veg and bloom, and many growers do so. These plants were grown in both veg and bloom and rather than switch b/w the two bulbs we wanted to show the comparison b/w the most popular HID of the two, being HPS.

[killthephony]

Why were two 630nm UFOs worse than one? Was that light positioning that affected early veg?

[SunlightSheds]

They were different manufacturers and we later found that the bulbs they were using were not 1 watt units, rather .65 watt bulbs in a '90 watt' configuration, without being as high of intensity/output.

[iwineverytime88]

REALLY want one of the UFO 90w 630nm led lights. i hope the one i want stays at 199.99 cause i'm getting one at that price! :-)

[SunlightSheds]

Good question, and one that is frustrating to most growers who understand the difference. The main reason is that most manufacturers of HID lights do not produce them mainly for growing plants, even if the box they are labeled in suggests they are. Generating the PAR rating compared with the lumen rating is much more complex as well.

[cmorera]

the "630nm RED" is model Model: LEDUFO90 from your website?

[SunlightSheds]

correct

[Freedomopportunity]

I love to be reading these actually factual comments rather than all the bs.

[Resin231]

So the test says leds produce more and compacted fruits and vegetables than a 400w hps? if so that is impressive...

[SunlightSheds]

we were very surprised that they performed as well as we saw. we've been testing them more and more since this video and hope to have a great deal more tests posted, with combinations of isolated LED colors and different combo configurations to see what works best.

[bornnbreedinnz]

thanks heaps this video is very help full and i have now investeted in a led 90 watt ufo but still have my trusty 400 watt hps.

[mrsoundwave]

led's dont have enuff lumens

[SunlightSheds]

Lumens are a measure of brightness to the HUMAN eye, it has nothing to do with plant photosynthesis. The closest measurable rating system is PAR (photosynthetic active radiation), which actually determines the amount of light photon energy which is processed by the plant through chlorophyll cells through the process of photosynthesis to aid in plant metabolic growth. We must respectfully state your perception is wrong.

[jas0n505]

i have read that although you can achieve great results with LED lights that with some plants typical of indoor growing the intensity of the PAR to the lower canopy is not as concentrated were as with a Hid light you will receive higher levels of PAR from the top of the plant to the bottom do you find this to be true

[SunlightSheds]

Over 90% of plant photosynthesis typically occurs in the top 15% of the plant. This canopy effect has been genetically bred into most plants, since they usually have to compete for light in the wild with other plants. LED's do not have the same intensity as HID's, so their penetrating power is lower. However, you can get them much closer to the growing tips of the canopy, without any heat or UV stress. This more than compensates for any loss in intensity for some of the lower leaves.

[abayareabum]

The only problem is the cost. At 2K for 600W I feel like I'm buying a part for a UFO or the space shuttle. I know there a lot cheaper now. Maybe combine this with a HID but a lower watt then you would normally use. I'm kind of curious if anyone has just gone to Radio Shack or ordered the same spectrum LEDS and just but them all together what the results were?

[SunlightSheds]

We sell the 90w LED's for $199, which is not cost prohibitive. A 400w system costs $25/mo at $.10kw/hr, and a 90w LED costs $5/mo, and the savings alone is $240 year including no bulb replacement cost $100/year. They don't sell 1 watt EDISON LED's at local radio shacks, and keep in mind these units have built in mini reflectors, cooling fans, circuit board controls, and more.

[beemoyo]

You just made a great argument sir

[smackatoo]

I'm not sure I understand... not on part? or par? and by double I meant you've got two of them in there, doubling the strength of the single unit. but then again, if it's from a different manufacturer that makes sense.

what is the manufacturer for the single unit? amazing results but once again... another year or two of this and it's over...

[hogridingfathippy]

Tomatos?...How about the other "veggie" ?

[balancex3]

nice test. how about trying the same test with a Metal halide bulb for vegging, im sure the led's would be blown away.

[SunlightSheds]

doubtful, since mh and hps are pretty close to on par growth wise during veg, but during hps usually hps rips past mh systems. Either way to use an LED for BOTH veg and bloom and have it surpass an hps hortilux system is nuts.

[cool70200]

thx so much for this test

I'm sold on these leds now, and I'm about to get a grow room

technology rocks, keep trucking engineers/scientists