It's interesting to see the difference is argument whether this hymn is liturgically appropriate to use for Responsorial Psalm. I guess whatever music you chose as a church music director, our main aim is to help people to worship God better.
I hate to be a pain, but he is a bit flat. Also, the tempo is way to slow. I have done this for many weddings and know that that is not the tempo marked. Also, on verse one he does not sing the exact notes that are there. It is at the end of the verse one.
Sorry to say This is a paraphase plsam hymn Not Approved for use in the Roman Catholic Mass as part of the liturgy of the Word, that doesn't stop a director from using it as a hymn somewhere else( offeratory or such) Take a look at what Mr. Marty Haugen has done to Pslam 23, BTW Ryan you should have capitalized the Lord's name
sorry to say but, it is a paraphased pslam, and Not approved for use in the Roman Catholic Mass. Marty Haugen's The Sheppard Me oh God, being one of the worst offenders as it completely warps the meaning of Pslam 23,
I do not doubt that you will find it Listed in certain less informed places as a suggested Psalm, that does not mean it is legite, alot of these planner guides like the ones from GIA are pretty bad and end up only giveing the top 10 Sarco Pop hymns as options,
Oh jeez. Like I've said before, since you're so set on the "Rules" lets go back to enforcing fish every friday year round, mass in a language we can't understand, and many others that I'm sure most of the preachy people on here don't themselves follow. I am a catholic, but I'm not going to curb anyone wanting to praise the Lord by song that is by content appropriate, regardless of the "Rules". I will make a push to resume these paraphrased Psalms as you call them, to our well attended 930 mass
It's not about the rules, it's about obediance to the faith and communion with the universal Catholic church. There is humility in followintg the rubrics of the mass. When the mass becomes about the people and their interpertations and makings themselves feel good , that's when you run into problems. As for calling the correct translation of the psalm dry, i think you are reffering to the musically tune not the text, i would hope.
Btw Vatican 2 did not abolish Latin as the Liturgical Language of the Roman Catholic Church. Rather it only gave permission for the use of the venacular and People are using that permission to the full extent. There is no problem praising the Lord with this song, the problem is respecting God's word as it has truely been revealed to us. and the Church asks that in the context of the Liturgy this be respected.
Im sorry to say this, joyfullbunny, but I think it is your attitude that makes so many people dislike the Catholic Church. I too am Catholic, and I heartily agree with strat512. I believe that if you want to make beautiful music and praise God it doesn't matter what words you use. God understands any language--this is why masses can be in any language now. Well, he understands any phrasing, too. It's the intention that matters, not the exact words, in my opinion! :) (sorry if I've offended)
Please read the church's documents regarding liturgy as I have and do as I am a professional church musician and well educated on this subject. The masses for the United States are in the venaculer because since Vatican 2's reforms on the liturgy gives the permission to use the venacular. The church today uses this permission or exception to the full extent it can. The offical liturgical language of the Roman Catholic Church IS latin. And btw it does matter what words you use while singing !
You haven't offended but you are giving your own opinion. As a working Music Director I have to constantly be aware that the words we sing proffess and reflect our Catholic Faith. Many of the hymns in some missals today like OCP{orgeon Catholc press) have text that are against the teaching of the real presence of in the Eucharist or are hymns with purely social and humanistic centers with no mention of God our Lord at all. so YES the words do matter!
Psalm 103 is The Lord is Kind and Merciful. Not "Loving and Forgiving Are you" . i hate to break it to you but, Psalms are suppose to be taken from the Lectionary, and Loving and Forgiving is nowhere in the Lectionary of psalms. Your Cantor is doing what he/she is suppose to and proclaim the word of god through a correct approved musical arrangement.
oh geez. I follow the mass pretty well. I don't think God is going to have some kind of hissy fit because of the music being sung in place of those dry/antiquated music for Psalms you're talking about. Especially in a more contemporary mass setting, the Psalms you speak of do not fit. It's all about praising Him, plain and simple. It's terrible to say, but my cantor is an ass, and is ruining that particular mass as it had been good for many years before with our previous cantor.
oh geez. I follow the mass pretty well. I don't think God is going to have some kind of hissy fit because of the music being sung in place of those dry/antiquated music for Psalms you're talking about. Especially in a more contemporary mass setting, the Psalms you speak of do not fit. It's all about praising Him, plain and simple. It's terrible to say, but my cantor is an ass, and is ruining that particular mass as it had been good for many years before with our previous cantor.
My church has used this for a Psalm. I enjoy the "Psalms" that sound as singable as this and other hymns. I don't care for our current cantor who sings "Psalms" that people don't know, and are the ones where the pianist hits a chord or two and the cantor sings a verse. This piece works equally well as a hymn or for the sung Psalm.
It's interesting to see the difference is argument whether this hymn is liturgically appropriate to use for Responsorial Psalm. I guess whatever music you chose as a church music director, our main aim is to help people to worship God better.
overmars1603 1 year ago
I hate to be a pain, but he is a bit flat. Also, the tempo is way to slow. I have done this for many weddings and know that that is not the tempo marked. Also, on verse one he does not sing the exact notes that are there. It is at the end of the verse one.
VinGovoni 1 year ago
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maicatoc 3 years ago
A beautiful voice he has.
dm05dm05 3 years ago
raj soi has such a beautiful voice!
grlyhrly 3 years ago
not a psalm...
nickbolla 3 years ago
yes it is!
SilentPunk101 2 years ago
Sorry to say This is a paraphase plsam hymn Not Approved for use in the Roman Catholic Mass as part of the liturgy of the Word, that doesn't stop a director from using it as a hymn somewhere else( offeratory or such) Take a look at what Mr. Marty Haugen has done to Pslam 23, BTW Ryan you should have capitalized the Lord's name
joyfullbunny 3 years ago
sorry to say but, it is a paraphased pslam, and Not approved for use in the Roman Catholic Mass. Marty Haugen's The Sheppard Me oh God, being one of the worst offenders as it completely warps the meaning of Pslam 23,
I do not doubt that you will find it Listed in certain less informed places as a suggested Psalm, that does not mean it is legite, alot of these planner guides like the ones from GIA are pretty bad and end up only giveing the top 10 Sarco Pop hymns as options,
joyfullbunny 3 years ago
Oh jeez. Like I've said before, since you're so set on the "Rules" lets go back to enforcing fish every friday year round, mass in a language we can't understand, and many others that I'm sure most of the preachy people on here don't themselves follow. I am a catholic, but I'm not going to curb anyone wanting to praise the Lord by song that is by content appropriate, regardless of the "Rules". I will make a push to resume these paraphrased Psalms as you call them, to our well attended 930 mass
strat512 3 years ago
It's not about the rules, it's about obediance to the faith and communion with the universal Catholic church. There is humility in followintg the rubrics of the mass. When the mass becomes about the people and their interpertations and makings themselves feel good , that's when you run into problems. As for calling the correct translation of the psalm dry, i think you are reffering to the musically tune not the text, i would hope.
joyfullbunny 3 years ago 2
Btw Vatican 2 did not abolish Latin as the Liturgical Language of the Roman Catholic Church. Rather it only gave permission for the use of the venacular and People are using that permission to the full extent. There is no problem praising the Lord with this song, the problem is respecting God's word as it has truely been revealed to us. and the Church asks that in the context of the Liturgy this be respected.
joyfullbunny 3 years ago
Im sorry to say this, joyfullbunny, but I think it is your attitude that makes so many people dislike the Catholic Church. I too am Catholic, and I heartily agree with strat512. I believe that if you want to make beautiful music and praise God it doesn't matter what words you use. God understands any language--this is why masses can be in any language now. Well, he understands any phrasing, too. It's the intention that matters, not the exact words, in my opinion! :) (sorry if I've offended)
abslch 3 years ago 2
Please read the church's documents regarding liturgy as I have and do as I am a professional church musician and well educated on this subject. The masses for the United States are in the venaculer because since Vatican 2's reforms on the liturgy gives the permission to use the venacular. The church today uses this permission or exception to the full extent it can. The offical liturgical language of the Roman Catholic Church IS latin. And btw it does matter what words you use while singing !
joyfullbunny 3 years ago
You haven't offended but you are giving your own opinion. As a working Music Director I have to constantly be aware that the words we sing proffess and reflect our Catholic Faith. Many of the hymns in some missals today like OCP{orgeon Catholc press) have text that are against the teaching of the real presence of in the Eucharist or are hymns with purely social and humanistic centers with no mention of God our Lord at all. so YES the words do matter!
joyfullbunny 3 years ago
Psalm 103 is The Lord is Kind and Merciful. Not "Loving and Forgiving Are you" . i hate to break it to you but, Psalms are suppose to be taken from the Lectionary, and Loving and Forgiving is nowhere in the Lectionary of psalms. Your Cantor is doing what he/she is suppose to and proclaim the word of god through a correct approved musical arrangement.
rjlynch1212 3 years ago
oh geez. I follow the mass pretty well. I don't think God is going to have some kind of hissy fit because of the music being sung in place of those dry/antiquated music for Psalms you're talking about. Especially in a more contemporary mass setting, the Psalms you speak of do not fit. It's all about praising Him, plain and simple. It's terrible to say, but my cantor is an ass, and is ruining that particular mass as it had been good for many years before with our previous cantor.
strat512 3 years ago
oh geez. I follow the mass pretty well. I don't think God is going to have some kind of hissy fit because of the music being sung in place of those dry/antiquated music for Psalms you're talking about. Especially in a more contemporary mass setting, the Psalms you speak of do not fit. It's all about praising Him, plain and simple. It's terrible to say, but my cantor is an ass, and is ruining that particular mass as it had been good for many years before with our previous cantor.
strat512 3 years ago
Actually it is often listed many places as a Psalm. Hate to break it to you but this is Psalm 103 ;-)
strat512 3 years ago
Yes, It is a Nice Hymn. But it's Not a Psalm!!
rjlynch1212 4 years ago
My church has used this for a Psalm. I enjoy the "Psalms" that sound as singable as this and other hymns. I don't care for our current cantor who sings "Psalms" that people don't know, and are the ones where the pianist hits a chord or two and the cantor sings a verse. This piece works equally well as a hymn or for the sung Psalm.
strat512 3 years ago
thanks for sharing, it's a lovely hymn
grumpyqueen 4 years ago
I love this hymn a lot. Thanks so much for posting.
gmanb72 4 years ago
I love this hymn. Thanks for sharing!
fcjcheah 4 years ago