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  • I love it how youtube has everyone with a camera thinking they're important

  • The editting is annoying at best.

  • It was well said by Margret Thatcher the problem with soicalism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.

  • What scares me is that there are 173 people that actually like this video. What is the matter with you people?

    If you think it's so terrible here, then leave. Go to the workers paradise in Cuba or maybe Venuzuela.

    Why change America surely there's already a country out there that suits your tastes.

    Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

  • @adamkon1104 Because we love our country and want the best for it. We remember the 90s, back when the US was a nice place to live and want that country back.

  • @gustafsg Try telling that to you wife or your girlfriend...... Honey, I love you but I want to change everything about you.

    I think this commie is trying to do more than change this country back to where it was in the 90's. He's trying to change it at it's core. If you want to do that, then maybe you should just find yourself another girl and get out of here.

  • People like this is why people like me buy guns. Have a nice day.

  • RACIST

  • This is a great example of how someone can be indoctrinated and over educated by some of our commie college professors. You can't make someone think for themselves but you can easily program them. Its scary how many out there have been brainwashed to think our country and its republic is worse than communism. Our problem is allowing our government too much power. My only comfort from people like this is they are weak and if the shit hit the fan he would make Darwin proud. :)

  • WHY SOCIALISM FAILED

    by Mark J. Perry, Ph.D.

    Socialism is the Big Lie of the twentieth century. While it promised prosperity, equality and security, socialism delivered poverty, misery and tyranny. Equality was achieved only in the sense that everyone was equal in his or her misery. Socialism is now a bankrupt, discredited, and flawed nineteenth century theory that has failed miserably in countries around the world.

    

  • @Dayversion obviously, you don't know the first thing about socialism. Just because a government is not capitalist, doesn't mean it is socialist. You can only see in black and white. too bad you can't become a little enlightened.

  • There is nothing wrong with having a Socialist or Communist view in political theory, even though I disagree with the Communist Party's anti-animal rights and anti-environmental stand in the Soviet Union.

    When the USA Communist & Socialist Parties get equal media airtime and equal ballot access to the Demopubs, only then can any one call socialists "fascist".

  • And stop worshipping the bullshit political "center" as though THAT is the preferred position. Until 99% of the population supports outlawing breeding animals for food so as to end the holocaust of factory farming, or grow a brain to push a button in the voting booth for someone other than a Republicrat, it's the 99% of the population that oppresses the bottom 1%, and that top 99% deserves to be exterminated - because they LOVE it - because they are too stupid to compute consequences.

  • Nobody cares about your open letter, and nobody has to agree with your belief that "the" progressive movement has failed. The progressive movement consists of fights for many different causes. e.g. I am a Green Party member, but I support war for just causes, such as bombing prisons in USA, Iran, China, Peru to free prisoners who are held hostage.

    Stop yapping about generalities. Consequences can be modelled ONLY with game theory.

    You want to help the movement? Stop with this total..

  • @deskset24 BULLSHIT that there is a difference between a "prisoner" (criminal/terrorist/convict) vs a "prisoner of war". If the cause for which they fight is greater than the negative harm done by any crime they commit, then their actions are justified.

    You want to help? Then not only OUTLAW the terrorist organizations - the Republicrat and Demopub parties - but punish all those who voted for them when they could have voted for Nader or an Independent or even write-in themselves at least.

  • @deskset24 And, finally, end this absolutely FUCKED-IN-THE-HEAD self-delusional BULLSHIT that MUSIC has ANYTHING WHATSOEVER to do with solving or achieving political causes. I'm addicted to Beethoven & Tchaikovsky as much as the next person (probably 1000X more so), but their music didn't stop the Holocaust.

    Those who have been saved from genocides, imprisonment, poverty were saved by mathematics: blasting into people's skulls the utilitarian principle of the good outweighing the bad.

  • I hate the left almost as much as I hate the right.Both sides are so sure that their vision for america is right and that most americans agree with them.Jesse Ventura said something along the lines that we need a little socialism mixed in with the capitolism but America should never go 100% socialist ,that would be wrong.Nor should America go 100% right wing that would be a nightmare.

  • WoW Progressives are facists, read a real history book about the origins of the facist movments of Europe and the progressive movement in America. Don't forget the NAZI's were the National Socialist German Workers' Party ..."SOCALIST" They supported abortion rights,universal welfare, subsidized housing, free university education, nationalizing key industries and free healthcare...sounds alot like the progressives huh?

  • @llyynncollnn1 what's to wrong with entitlements? the wealthy seem to think that theey are the only ones' to deserve them. like being entitled not to pay any taxes. you are so naive to go to that side. you're not wealthy are you. can you afford 25K for an education?

  • @evalena24 Well it depends on the nature of the entitlement. The rich do pay taxs, State and local taxs like property tax, sales tax and the like tend to be regressive in nature and as such the very rich pay a smaller percentage of their income to those.Federal taxs however are a different matter.Once you deduct tax refunds and child credits from the total paid the rich (top 10%) pay 90% of all federal taxs.Wheather of not I'm wealthy is irrelevant I know right from wrong

  • @evalena24 why did you change your name from destset24?

  • I wish it had failed.

  • you are also stooping so low that you would brainwash our kids into thinking the way you do where is our freedom going let me tell you progressive supports you are ruining us take a look at our constitution you idiots and read up on some history while you are at it progressive movements never work

  • Poor progressives. It must suck to always loose and know that your ideas never work and they always destroy everything. I have watched progressive liberals destroy the beautiful city of Memphis. They came in with their fascism and destroyed the public schools, skyrocketed our taxes, forced just about every business to close or move with their policies, brought about more poverty and crime than ever before. Funny how when this city was conservative is was voted most beautiful, now it's ruined!

  • Just like those "religious fanatics" on the far right those progressives (or liberals) on the left have no idea what the "center" is all about. Both are very arrogant, self righteous elitists who think the rest of us are too stupid or immoral to make decisions for ourselves. The center won't move left, that's why we are the center. Conservative fiscal policy with a liberal social policy i.e. live your own life and be responsible for your own actions. See if you can get your head around it.

  • Trymastermeat I believe the problem in our parties is the left swung way to the left and the republicans also moved to the left so conservatives or teaparty people fell betrayed by the republicans I myself voted for John McCain but it was hard because the vote was against big goverment vs a little bit less goverment if I have that choice again I just vote for the constitutalist

  • Trymastermeat yes I like Glenn beck and you have Misrepresenated his views did you know that Glenn beck hated bush and john McCain if you ever watch his show glenns more of a libertarian so please give his show a chance

  • davis, start a movement!!

  • You have a right to your opinion but can you please knock it off with the hatred of conservaties like me I deserve to have a opinion without being called every name in the book

  • There is nothing wrong with having a conservative view in political theory. The problem is that of our two major parties in the U.S., one is conservative, and the other is super far right. The DNC is regarded as being basically conservative leaning to political experts. They are considered left only in comparison to the GOP. This muddies the argument. If, however, you are saying you agree with neo-con Glenn Beck style politics, then yes, you are an asshat and deserve to have names slung at you.

  • Why have we lost? Because we are playing their game and they make up the rules. Any sign of losing the game and they change the rules or just overturn the chess board. Time to stop playing the game, time to start making this real.

  • Hey Dennis Trainer!

  • Unfortunately, the Progressive Social-Democrat movement is being beaten down by the Fascists who also also dawn the label of "Progressive".

  • Good plan. Best of luck with that one. I'm unsubscribing today.

  • Ramblings of a mad man

  • Ooops, I forgot. If I sign up, do I get to march and spit on our Marines? Do I get to lock arms with those who launch rockets into Israel and try to kill Jewish children? Do I get to suck up to Islamic fanatics and help them obtain WMD? Oh goodie, count me in!!

  • Count me in Davis! I want to kill babies via abortion, let China pollute, steal money that I didn't earn, marry my dog, throw the cross in my urine, encourage our youth to screw anything that feels good, and of course to belittle the common man! Yeah! Count me in as a Liberal.

  • Right on Davis!

    I'm on board for that and will help anyway i can.

    only thing is, since they control the media, how are we going to connect with the insulated corporate connected center.

  • left right left right i remember how when we were kids in boot camp some of us would cry every night and others once or twice in the daylight but nobody crawled up our asses enough to attack tear-for-tear nor did we mock one another left right left right the only way to fight the good fight is insist that YOUR congress hang by their necks the 9/11 treasoners- this is not a call for a lynching you are within your rights to instruct your legislator what you expect from themitsupercedesfire/theater

  • I was on vaca when you posted this vid... I'm finally catching up on what the people I subscribe to did while I was gone - yippee!

  • Davis seriously, do you know what Libertarians are? I will give you a clue, Glen Beck.... NOT a Libertarian.

    Libertarians just want government out of our lives, we don't want to all pay for welfare, and we are FULL on against warfare. We want the freedom not fasism.

    We are against the unworkable socialist agenda on the left, and the unstoppable corporate suck jobs coming from the right. We want an America where we do take care of our own.... without the govts help.

  • Woah buddy!

    Don't go throwing libertarians in with the radical right. That's the funny thing about libertarians, the right calls them left wing hippies and the left calls them neocon boot kissers. There are plenty of libertarians who share plenty of you views and could make valuable allies in the quest for change. And remember, if you want to win the center that is libertarian territory.

    Hell, I'm watching your videos and nodding in agreement most of the time and I doubt I'm alone.

  • Policy is never done from the center, it's done from the top. The evil rich decides what the zombie hordes are supposed to think and feed it into their rotten brains through the MSM. There is no democracy, stop the BS.

    Hit the evil rich where it hurts and hit them hart and cut the crap about moving the center, you can't compete against the MSM.

  • Great video.

  • Politics are already decided. It's done with years of advance. Like Chess. It's an Agenda. The masses are kept in darkness so that they can believe they have some power of decision in this field and they don't become hard or impossible to control. Peace.

  • marioacemartins, if that is true i would say you are to blame for knowing it and not doing anything about it.

  • "My lies with tell a greater truth."

    This is Michael Moore's method of operation as well.

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  • Ficus Christi--for your fucking Roman Catholic pedophiles out there.

  • Figa de Cristi--going to have to trot the proctology manual.

  • They are asterisking FICA? HA HA HA.

  • What is this fucking asterisk shit?

  • Progressiveness means first putting away childish 9/11 conspiracy theories and joining reality.

  • Any conservatives, libertarians, fringe groups, or anyone really with a mind NOT to oppress others... stop commenting this video, stop helping this idiot's cause. give him no attention. you already gave him a view, stop right there.

    maybe he has good intentions, but the people he backs certainly do not. and just because intentions are good does not make the actions needed to make these intentions a reality good actions.

    they will be oppressive.

  • Americans, make a REVOLUTION, you have The Constitution of the United States of America, to do it. do you (all Americans) want the bankers to do another 9/11, on the people of America? trust me, if you don't act now, the time is soon over for resistance, and the fucking Nazi bankers and Nazi government will show you it`s true face...

    please Google this: Denver international airport. fema. bankers. vaccination. aspartame.

    and the most important, you won`t Believe this! THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES.

  • The Zionist Neo-Cons, the Born Agains, and the Corporate Fascists behind Bush and Cheney engineered this collapse, economically and in foreign policy.

    Part of it knowingly, partly not.

  • mopsius From your reply and rhetoric, it's obviousl you are another brain-dead, classless, ignorant liberal who has to resort to name calling and using insults to feel smart because YOU HAVE NOT INTELLIGENCE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. It's a waste of time dealing with brain-dead socialists like yourself. ALL socialists are lower class because they don't have the intelligence to do anything for themselves and depend on others to take care of them.

    You are pathetic.

  • ccgraphics20, why would someone like me want the agreement or approval of a moron like you.

    That's what you are and that's what your theories are, REGRESSIVE MORONISM.

    What's nice about the present pass is that it really doesn't matter much what people like you say.

    THe US is kaput. Over. History. And along with is this idiot Capitalism.

    It is no longer a debate.

  • mopsius Why don't you do yourself and America a favor and move to one of those "utopian" countries that you socialists think are so great, like North Korea, Cuba, China or Vietnam. You'd be much happier there - and make AMERICANS.

    Socialism is parallel to communism where everyone is equal. If you go to college for 8 years, you will earn the same as someone working at McDonald's. What an incentive.

  • mopsius Your lack of intelligence is so pronounced, I feel sorry for idiots like you. What ever gave you the idea that I said you should agree with me? I never did. I said that you anti-war, anti-capitalist, anti-American liberals can't debate or argue your point on an intelligent level. You ALL resort to name calling and insults to feel like you are smart. You all sound like a bunch of 10yr old kids at the playground trying to out-insult everybody. That's is about the level of your I.Q.

  • ccgraphics20 And that pro-war thingy is soooo intelligent & mature...suuuuure

  • Yankhadenough  Pro-war DOES NOT mean to go start a war with anybody. It means to fight to protect your country from those who want to bring it harm.

    The spineless people like Clinton allowed 6 terror attacks go unanswered, he earned America the title of "Paper Tiger" from Osama bin Laden - who also said America is NOT the superpwer we claim to be.

    N. Korea, Iran, & the pirates have shown they're not scared of Obama. After 9-11, they saw Bush wasn't another Clinton and didn't attack again.

  • ccgraphics20 Bush & cabal r the enemies within ! He is like Hitler, who did just as much harm to Germany as he did to anyone else with pre-emptive wars. Now USA is in a pickle,& people like u r blaming it on Clinton, who left office with a surplus, & people like u r blaming Obama, who has only been in office for six months trying to fix 8 years of being in the red (both figuratively & literally). And people like you keep forgetting 9/11, the worst attack on US mainland, happened during Bush!

  • Yankhadenough Who allowed 6 terror attacks on America, our military bases, our embassies, and the USS Cole go unanswered? Who allowed Jamie Gorelick and Eric Holder put up The Wall of Separation that blinded our national security and let muslims with ties to terrorists into America to use our phones, ATMs, computers and to take flying lessons to prepare for 9-11?

  • ccgraphics20 Clinton tried, all Bush do was lie

  • Yankhadenough It's obvious you still have the "hippy 60's" drug induced mentality.

    Clinton "tried"? GIve me a break.

    • 2 weeks before the 9-11 Investigation, he had Sandy Berger collect & destroy information Clinton knew & ignored about planned terror attacks.

    • 2 days before the attack on the USS Cole, Able Danger warned Clinton about planned attacks in Yemen on our ships. Clinton ignored the warning.

    • Bin Laden declared war against America on T.V. in 1998 and Clinton DID NOTHING!

  • Yankhadenough People like you would rather invite the terrorists for dinner and a movie than fight to protect America.

  • ccgraphics20 people like you would rather be Nazis and barbecue people for dinner

  • Yankhadenough To back even further, who funded the mujahideen (who later became al-Qaeda)?

    Who helped de-throne the Shah of Iran (our ALLY) and have him replaced with the Ayetollah Khomeini, the leader of the Iranian Revolution and escalated anti-Americanism.

    To top it off, the one who funded the mujahideen flew to the middle east 2 years ago, laid a wreath an Khomeini's grave met with one of the leaders of terror group Hamas.... you know, Hamas, The terror group that praised Obama.

  • ccgraphics20 Hamas are defending their homeland , therefore they are freedom fighters.

  • Yankhadenough You are a pretty ignorant and uneducated about your history for someone your age.

  • ccgraphics20 you are an immature liar

  • Yankhadenough It was Clinton who shut down Able Danger, who also warned him about Atta being in America well over a year BEFORE 9-11!

    You say "Bush lied"? Who was THE FIRST PRESIDENT to say Saddam Hussein had WMDs?

    BILL CLINTON. Who else said Hussein had them? Hillary, John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Jay Rockerfeller, Carl Levin, Madeline Albright, Al Gore, Henry Waxman, and Robert Byrd. You need to do RESEARCH before you spew the liberal crap your brain is filled with.

  • You little fucking Born Again Paulistas want civil war?

    The little fucking Christian racist Zionist mullahs like Parsely and Hagee--getting ready for the collapse are we?

    Cromwell's Army ready to march--HAHAHAHA.

    Onward Judaeo-Christian soldiers!

  • The Russians have the mechanics right--the polarities are US default or starting a World War.

  • Obama's helath insurance is not socialism--it is just another version of monopoly finance capitalism, with the dumbasses as compulsory payers to PRIVATE insurers.

  • And the little Capitalist neo-Pinkerton mercenaries and military contractors also will not work.

  • Here's the great thing--just like the British these fuckers really screwed up this time.

    So it does not really matter much whether you want "Socialism" or "Communism" or chaos or civil war.

    There is no solution.

    It is only a question of how much blood.

    A little (rational planning) or a lot (more Capitalist lunacy),

  • cartoonishly liberall

  • The Russian analysts are predicting the US will either have to default or start a World War.

    But the US will lose the war.

  • mopsius We have had 150 years to dissect socialism in theory. We have had 100 years to see socialism in action. Socialism, extensive government control over the economy, is a disaster in theory and a disaster in practice. The superiority of capitalism over socialism has been amply demonstrated by Ludwig von Mises, F.A. Hayek, Murray Rothbard, Hans-Hermann Hoppe, and others. Yet it continues to be the dominant political philosophy, even in the United States.

  • csgraphics you are just a disinformation artist.

    You couldn't dissect a kindergarten primer.

  • this guy is a real idiot! :S

  • Capitalism + Monotheism = MacDonald's.

  • Bon appetit, mes enfants.

    Rape, murder and pillage across the planet for a fucking tasteless plastic cheeseburger.

    That's Calvinism and Capitalism for you.

  • There is a history that has not been written--just how destructive and predatory and inefficiennt US Capitalism is and has been from the beginning, as it stretched across and wasted the resources of a whole continent, human and natural.

  • The other hilarious aspect is that the Finance Capitalist Elite is so fucking stupid they are also poisoning themselves.

    In fact the are both homicidal and suicidal mutants.

  • If the human race were a "Capitalist Species" it would have long ago been extinct.

    As it stands, the Capitalist incompetents are well on their way to starving out ninety percent of the human race or blowing the whole fucking planet up.

  • Peter Kropotkin, Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution,

  • US motto:

    "From each according to his need, to each according to their excess."

    Social Darwinists one and all.

  • mopsius I bet you are an Alinsky follower/worshipper.

  • You lose, ccgraphics20.

    What were you betting--all the dogshit in the trailer park?

  • mopsius You seem to think socialism will fix everything? Under socialism, we would have a bunch of idiot politicians deciding what is good for us, they woiuld regulate taxes, take money from those who earn and redistribute to those who don't; try to make everybody "equal"....equally POOR. You are probably one of the parasitical class.

    The ONLY moral and just system is capitalism. It requires people to earn their money on items/services where the value is decided on the consumer.

  • You can keep it--I don't want to interfere with your livelihood.

    You can keep the plastic gloves too.

  • ccgraphics20--catch this--the chances of avoiding even worse catastrophe in the US right now are about one out of 100, and every step has to be right and in the right sequence. And most of the Democrats, and all of the Repucblicans don't have a fucking clue.

    In fact the fucking non-predatory business classes should be flooding Kucinich and the Progressives with money because a workable socialism is the BEST the US can do for the foreseeble future.

    It's their ass that on the line. I

  • mopsius Here in America, we have socialized medicine, socialized education, and socialized retirement. The state seizes 40 percent of our income and tells us what we can and cannot do with what we keep. Virtually every aspect of the economy is regulated. The long-term trend is toward ever-greater government control over the economy, our property, and our lives. And things keep getting worse the more control our government has.

  • This is a predatory capitalist warfare sate with no socialism at at.

    This is Capitlaism and the the fucking Capitalists own the state, you fucking dumbass, Aand they just paid themselves in bailouts with those taxes.

    You fucking slobbering moron.

  • Subsistence wages--UTOPIAN!

    "The world doesn't ow you a living!".

    How about this--the people don't owe the fucking Capitalist elite a living.

  • gunsandbullhorns--only a Neo-Con Randian Regressive with no knowledge of any world history whatsoover could come up with that song and dance.

  • The Mexican Revolution was Christian Millennialist, HAHAHAHA.

    The Constitutional Revolution of 1906 in Iran was Christian Millnenialist, HAHAHAHA.

    Ho Chi Minh and Mao were Christian Millennialists, HAHAHAHAHA.

    What an ignorant fuck head, Gunsandbullhorns is.

    Shows you what Capitalsim does to education even among the Capitalists.

  • The origin of the Fabians was seeing that Capitalism in Britain was so egregiously inefficieint, destructive, murderous, and predatory that there would soon be a bloody revolution if there was no systematic reform.

  • CAPIITALIST UTOPIANS, hahahaha--you know what that utopia is, you are living it--the war of the Finance Capitalists against everyone else.

  • Be sure and mention that the "progressive" movement, like communism, has it's roots in Christian millenialist fundamentalism. The idea was to create the Kingdom of God on earth (hence prohibition and compulsory schooling).

    Later, the "progressives" became slightly secular and adopted a platform of eugenics and environmentalism (which often coincide for reasons I won't go into). Teddy Roosevelt being the prime example.

    Later, they synthesized with the Fabian Socialists.

  • You have your head up your ass, Gunsandbullhorns--were the Enlightenment and the French Revolution a Christian millennialist movements?

    HAHAHAHA.

    Actually, you are really fucked up since millennialism was looking forward to the end of the world.

    I peg you as Straussian Neo-Con disinformationist artist of very little talent.

  • mopsius—

    The French Revolution wasn't a unified movement, and neither was the Enlightenment, so the answer to your question could be both "yes" and "no".

    I never said anything Straussian. I think you are a troll. Grow up. Unless you are a Saint-Simonian, or a Marxoid, we are not enemies. Fleetwood's brand of "progressivism" is respectable. On the whole, I'm not threatened by it.

    ...and BTW, don't call me a Straussian unless I say something Straussian.

  • Fuck off, gunsandbullhors--you know shit and it is not worth reading your comments.

    "Marxoid"--haha--like I give a shit what you think about Marx?

    "American Christian Progressivism"? Christian Rock and Roll was bad enough--Straussians pushing Jesus Christ Superstar now--HO HO HO.

  • Figures. You're a Marxoid. No wonder you're always on the look-out for Straussians. Nobody else takes them seriously except Marxoids.

    Well, I say fuck both y'all. You ought to spend more time studying post-marginalist economics, and less time trolling youtube, you Labour-theory-zero-sum-exchang­e motherfucker.

  • gunsanbullhaorns, you really have not the slightest idea how stupid you really are, and I don't have the time nor the inclination to inform you.

  • Well then, I guess you'd better stop wasting your time on the likes of me. Happy trails.

  • And what you say about the Fabians is even more egregiously false.

    Defintively a Straussian.

    You fucks must be really worried.

  • Surely one of Ayn Rand's morons as well.

  • Marcuse, Marcuse, Marcuse.

    Pretty soon these Regressives will start shouting UTOPIANS! hahahaha.

    Marcuse took care of that one in a paragraph.

  • Actually Fleetwood is wrong--these are not particualrly powerful forces--they can't win a war against peasants or a resisting population to save their lives.

    Rather their power is mostly psychological and propagandistic.

    That is why the mainstream media is key for them.

    They are offering the vast majority of the population nothing but debt and serfdom and mental illness.

  • Some of the key Neo-Cons were in origin Trotksyites, who became Zionist essentially.

    Their propaganda is very Trotskyist in mode, but not in content.

    Strauss marked out the place both "God" (the lie) and "democracy" (the political mode) were to play in the this conspriacy.

    And it is a conspiracy--one that operates openly by not being seen for what it is.

  • Bellum omnium contra omnes--war of all against all--ultimately that is the theory of competition and American Protestant Capitalism in its fundamental theory, though as Marx saw, the Capitalists in fact actually operate collectively.

  • The centrality of the Old Testament, with its Tribal God, in American Protestantism is central.

    That is the fulcrum where the Neo-Cons put their lever.

    The Neo-Cons are incompetent and lunatics, but they know how to manipulate even bigger lunatics than themselves.

    The Roman Catholics are also part of hte coalition but in a much different mode.

  • Dealing with the superficies does not work.

    Go to the root.

    "Individual": does not exist, biologically or physically or in any other way except as an illusion and symbolically..

    But you see these fucks, railing against "collectivism", are all "one" in--you guessed it--their magic word, "God".

  • Another hypocrisy of Paul is that his whole professional career was based on belonging to a state-certiifed guild or being employed by government.

    Now he is rolling in what is left of $35 million in campaign contributions, mostly from Neo-Cons, who used him to defuse and scatter the anti-war movement.

    But then again "God" solves all inconsistencies for these folks--they are "the Chosen", right?

  • With Herbert Marcuse--once is not enough.

  • "God" is the Captialist's magic word that takes care of all their lunacy, their contradictions inconsistencies, and supports their bottomless metaphysical and materialist selfishness.

    Paul is an economic moron--but he is also a Born Again, a Social Darwinist (like many British Classic "Liberals"), and a Lockean.

    Smith's "invisible hand" is obviously an aspect of his Calvinist God.

    .

  • The Neo-Cons are Straussians are more opportunists--they don't believe really in any of this shit, but eagerly exploit it to their own ends

  • corr: "as Straussians".

  • Capitalist Social Darwinism is essentially Protestant and Capitalist, based on an idea of a separation defining "individuals", very much like Leibniz's monads--all completely distinct.

    Ayn Rand was an incompetent--but she limned out a naive and linguistic version of this isolationism, both materialist and selfish.

    Rand called herself an atheist, but the pattern fit American Capitalism and Protestantism exactly.

  • Hey I'm all for some progressive noise! Speak up, people!

    And yes, we all need to try to do more cycling. :)

  • Davis I like your new haircut. I agree with with what you said, you are exactly right. Although you don't give enough credit to the election of barack obama. Obama's base was progressive liberals, without them he wouldn't have made it past hillary.

  • You know it's all over when Obama says with a straihgt face, "What's good for the Navy and Air Force is good for America!".

    I mean, Jesus--not even a General Motors to apotheosis-a-fy the Common Good.

  • One party ..2 heads ~

    All serve the international ruling elite ~

    both parties funded ...who wins gets controlled ~ One party ...2 heads !

  • There is no "RIGHT" and "LEFT" Sheep like you have bought into this whole concept. There are forces in this world whose soul purpose is to pit the masses against each other..Wake up.

  • Oh well, don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul. Now that's the message worth listening to. Try it. You might just like it.

  • On board.

  • The reason being loud on the left doesn't work: We want America to eat her vegetables and clean her room. The right can garner support by being loud and obnoxious, because they advocate buffalo wings, slovenly behavior and big explosions and tanks.

    To beat the right, we have to be better than them, not like them. Your mom yelling at you to take out the garbage may be at the same pitch as your favorite heavy metal band, but somehow the message of party all the time gets through.

  • You are on to something, AngryPirateProd. But it's a cunningly mixed message--"Adolf Hitler is threatening Alaska! Don't worry, we'll take care of it. Party on!".

    Kennedy, of course, had the New Frontier (Schlesinger's theft from Turner), the Missile Gap (that uncouth peasant Nikita), and "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for me" (Jack was a real party animal).

  • God must be removed from the pledge and from US currency!

    -Doing my part

  • Great theory but I think why it won't happen is because we liberals tend to be considerate and acknowledge that other views and positions are valid in contrast to "fundamental absolute truth" It is like some one once said bringing a butter knife to do battle against a machine gun. We're too considerate. Because we think they will win by sheer galvanized stupidity. See Planet of the Apes Gorillas vs. Chimps and Orangutans. In politics sadly the boot not the poem makes the compelling argument.

  • Or you could do what the messiah did...lie to the people.

    Why don't you just try the truth.

  • 56GIG-

    "Why don't I just try the truth?"

    Are you joking?

    Have you been awake for the last few DECADES?!?!?!

  • There is one reality that Davis does not want to acknowledge. If indeed the "progressive movement" and lefties acted so wacky liberal as he desires, it would not move the middle left, it would repulse the middle and force it to the right. This is, for lack of a better phrase, a really bad idea for someone on the left that wants to convince people to see things his way.

  • Progressive = FAIL.

    Change You Can Beliebve In?

    ROFLMAO.

  • You should listen to Alex Jones' Sunday edition radio show. The Dems nd Repubs are OWNED by Wallstreet and the Federal Reserve and they don't give a dmn about your freedom, rights, or country. And they definitely don't give a damn whether you are a Conservative or a Liberal.Wake up man!

  • robertseberger, you need to understand that this is how Alex Jones makes a living. He makes money by making you believe what you just stated.

    Oh and also, Wall Street doesn't OWN anybody, but public companies certainly have a vested interest in Conservatives setting policy and running the country. I agree we need to lose the Fed, but you are claiming that the fed and the entire political process are intertwined and this just isn't true, sorry.

  • Mandatory partial-birth abortions for all.

  • Paul is a bad joke. As an economist he makes a mediocre obstetrician.

    He has also worked either for the state or state certified his whole fucking career.

    He has been bought off by so many interests it is a laugh.

    He is one of the Born Agains that have coopted the Libertarians.

    "Self-owned" HAHAHA.

  • Because our careers are forced to have a governmental certification it does not mean we support the states ways.

    Its the game we play.

    what interests has he been bought off with? Do you get paid to bash Paul? Or did a paul Supporter insult you to the point you cannot forgive them and move on?

  • i agree with you there ...paul is a joke....a bad one.

  • I am going to the Las vegas C4L convention this coming weekend and you raise a good question why hasn't Paul talked about the importance of Ricardo's work -- If I get he chance I will ask him what his thoughts on his work are and why there has been little mention of it of him speaking on it.

  • Why do you think the Neo-Cons built the wall against Mexico?

    Not to keep Mexicans out.

  • Mopsius if we have a government that is building walls to keep its people in rather then out like you do then why advocate to give them even more power and control with the wealth from the oil fields?

    Btw I disagree -- More people are running in then out -- People are still voting for this America over the current mexico

  • You don't have the courage to analyse. Contempiorary medicine is a collectivist guild.

    You have no idea what medicine was in the US one hundred years ago or what it was like without state certification.

    And you certainly have not read even the avaialable Libertarian studies on the subject.

    So once more you display your arrogance and ignorance.

    You don't expect me to give you the source?

    State certification good for medicine, as long as it is Paul--oooooooooo.

  • Contempiorary medicine is a collectivist guild but that is not what many of us advocate more of in the pharmacy world.- like your career I bet you would change the rules of it too and My field is no different

    Where you site the state as the reason for the improvement I say personal education gained by more and more people in the field --

    of course you could loose your cheerleader status if you spoke out against the state -- btw Medicare part D is one big ass mistake.

  • Keynes had a few things right.

    A lot wrong but some right.

    You have these little slogans, "collectivism".

    Paul is a STATE certified medical collectivist, get it?

  • The is one lame ass argument if I have ever heard of One -- So being a Pharmacist who was forced to take the NAPLEX I am a Medical Collectivist too?

    garbage

  • You have this little sayings too -- jiveass fake, Moron and fraud --- All of which could be applied to your boy I have a good feeling you voted for -- Obama

  • Which boy is my boy--Putin?

  • I have never seen one inkling in anything he has written that Paul has ever seriously read Ricardo, or read him with understanding.

    The man is jiveass fake.

  • That is assumption you have -- Why don't you write him -- you spend enough time bashing him you might as well get a straight answer to this question.

  • There is a central flaw in Hayek's "intelligence" theory.

    There is no such thing as a free market and you can't valid intelligence from it.

    You cannot even get valid intelligence from the market about the market, period.

    Paul is a waste of time. It is like listening to a baby go gaga.

    At one time I thought he was a serious constitutionalist but he has turned out to be a complete jiveass.

  • You are right to a point --- We both agree we do not have a free market but

    Again all we need to do is look to a black market to see a Free market today and plenty of valid intelligence about the black market is reviled

    My time spent talking with you is cause I like most of what you say not to get you on board with Ron Paul --

  • If you have then why do you make a case for even more collectivism in our lives?

  • There is no "capitallism" in Smith, get it?

    There was no "capitalism" before Marx.

    You also obviously have no idea what Marx said.

    He considered Capitalism a necessary stage.

    Marx was wrong about many things, but he was right about many too.

  • Shit face the Action Of capitalism was around long before Marx coined the term

    No I cannot you sound like a fool mocking Ron Paul all the time --

  • You brought up how long Paul had been predicting this or that.

    Yes he has--so long it is meaningless--get it? Nor was he ever specific.

    Gee, in 1969 he said the US was cruising for a bruising because of the currency.

    What a prediction Repeat ad nauseam.

    He knows shit about what actually happened.

    Obviously I read his crap articles for amusement.

    He is a moron, a jiaveass, and a fraud.

  • The Fed is only part of the problem.

    You think you know the Fed--hahha.

  • The Fed is only part of the problem is right -- the Mess of Fractional reserve banking and how money is created is another. -- the management of it or lack their of from the Fed is only part of it.

  • You really are stupid, PatriotLiberty1776. You are the one who brought up age--and how Paul was saying this and that long ago.

    You don't even pay attention to what you say, let alone anyone else.

    The GREAT INDIVIDUAL.

  • You know I get called a lot of things but Stupid is not one I can say I have been given to many times -- The fact Paul was right in the past has nothing to do with his age -- you are several comments behind

    Age doesn't correlate to knowledge was what I am referring to -- there are plenty of old idiots

  • You may not be naturally stupid, but you sure are bending over backwards to seem as stupid as possible.

    Go read your own comments.

    I don;t have to.

    I have close to an eidetic memory. I know what you said.

  • Have you read the The road to serfdom? If you have then you will know where I am coming from rather then stereotyping all Paul supporters as nuts

  • What a stupid question--you can't tell that I have?

  • You want the Fed to continue to enslave us -- $30,000 in 1970 could have bought you a very nice house today you could have a hard time buying the land for the house for $30,000

    Devalued by the fed around 15 times since then in nominal dollars or the same $30,000 would cost you roughly $450,000 in 2009 ---

  • Every American just lost at least one third of anything in USD.

    You think you are dealing with a kid--you are the kid, still wet behind the ears.

  • age does not correlate to knowledge it again is an individual characteristic --

  • Gee, what would the US sell the Asian countries, GM automobiles?

    Actually very soon they will not even be able to sell them operating systems, nor the Russians either.

    The US is way behind the rest of the industrialized world, even in technology.

    That;s your fucking capitalism for you.

    You are an economic illiterate.