MISA Yoga School - Forgeries, perversions, proselytism ...

[calin4thewin]

Ce tare, un popa de la BOR care condamna cultele ciudate :)

Dupa ce ca BOR practic FURA de la noi toti bani ca sa-si ia terenuri si dea salarii fantastice, popa apare si are tupeul sa condamne.

Cat timp un tinator de lumanari in biserica are salariu mai mare ca un profesor sau medic in primii ani de activitate, nu cred ca popa are ce cauta condamnand abuzurile altora.

[ginela2552]

media va minte si va manipuleaza..

Greg este the best guru on the planet

[mahacutra]

A new documentary  about MISA, sent on 5th october 2009 at the finish public tv YLE FI - The dark side of a tantric cult - can be watched on the exmisa ro forum and on trilulilu.

Noul documentar pe tema MISA - The dark side of a tantric cult - , transmis pe 5 octombrie 2009 la televiziunea publica finlandeza YLE FI poate fi vizionat pe forumul exmisa ro si pe trilulilu.

[thetruthaboutbjb]

CT2507

Please keep posting your comments!

They are completely insane but very enlightening as to how the mind of a MISA drone works.

I especially liked the bit where you say that the MISA girls work willingly in strip bars.

I took a screen shot of that, just for the record in case you decide to remove it later.

More stupid incriminating posts please!

[HydraulicApex]

@thetruthaboutbjb Girls working in strip bars is not illigal. you are kind of funny with your agitation, friend. as far as i know there are only few girls compared with how many girls is in the school who did this, and they did it because they wanted to do this. It was their own choice, and even their own idea as far as i know.

[mahacutra]

CT, the freemasons have no problem with Bivolaru. Why should they? The information he put in his books are taken from books published many years ago outside Romania.

You say he is working to awaken people, not that he done it. I don't know what is in his mind, but I see what happened to girls at MISA. Some of them studied medicine, others could work as teachers or engineers, but they earn money for Bivolaru as stripper in bars or on erotic videochat. Bivolaru definies this as prostitution.

[CT2507]

i don't know of any girl that is FORCED by Grieg to strip in bars... they choose it themselves because they see it as an opportunity to see other countries and use their tantric abilities.

the freemasons want to shut him up, because:

1. he is publicaly talking about their powerstructure within the corrupt government, polie and media.

2. because he is teaching people to wake up... to become spiritually enlightened. and u cannot control enlightened people!

[CT2507]

if u didn't understand at least this much, i say u wasted 14 years in that yoga school... what on earth were u doing there? why were u attending yoga classes for 14 years if u didn't understand how the power elite is running things!?

obviously u should just go back to sleep. yoga is not and never was for u? why did u do it in the first place?

..to learn a little meditation?! :)

[CT2507]

there is a strong need to clean out stupidity in the population and corruption in the ones with power, in that country!

[CT2507]

...but that will take several generations. so dont hold your breath!

[mahacutra]

For the things you call lies there are proofs in the indicment of the MISA and Bivolaru trial.

Everybody knows, that there is no smoke without fire.

Actually the priest says: " In the moment when they say that everything is an illusion, the new step for the adept is to donate all personal goods to the sect."

So you lied a little. I see you are getting used to it. On yogaesoteric, site where you are admin, it still says MISA is full member in IYF,altough they expelled it a few months ago.

[CT2507]

what stpuid bivolaru trials are u talking about!

the swedes had to let Grieg go because none of the romanian accusations could be proved in any way, shape or form! In Sweeden they want to see proof... and there is absolutley none! so they let him go.

it is a big shame on the romanian justice system, and now i see that several romanian politicians are reviewing the corrupt legal system in Romania because of all this that has happened to Grieg

[mahacutra]

Sweden refused Bivolaru's extradition not because of lack of proofs.

The Swedish Supreme Court said

- the Romanian detention order was not incorrect. - the reason for not extraditing Bivolaru was that the Supreme Court found that (according to article 7 in the Swedish extradition law) there was a risk that Bivolaru because of his religion (MISA was regarded as some sort of religion) could be severely harassed in Romania.

So, you are misinformed.

[CT2507]

Sweden wouldn't have helped Grieg if it turned out that the accusations of sex with a minor had been correct. they wouldn't accept a pedophile into the Swedish system and then turn him loose... just because he might risk prosecution back in Romania... they couldn't care less about him facing Romanian prison if he in fact was a criminal.

but there are no proofs are there!?

[CT2507]

...and dont underestimate the Swedish legal system. it has run without corruption for decades. whereas the Romanian one is still heavily corrupt and twisted.

the Swedish people are not that easy to fool as u would like them to be.

[mahacutra]

Read the official documents if you want to find out why Sweden granted him asylum.

Forget about yogaesoteric where they say Sweden find him innocent. :))

You can find the proofs in the indicment.

[CT2507]

oh so u are telling me now that Sweden DID find him guilty, of whatever the Romanians were blaming him off, but they still decided to give him asylum and let him loose on the Swedish streets so that he could do it all over again in Sweden!? :)) do u have any idea how simpleminded u are?!

[mahacutra]

People reading here can see what I wrote and which are your conclusions.

In the official documents that the Swedish Supreme Court sent to Romania you can find the real reason for the granted asylum.

If this is what you understood, I cannot help you further.

You know that: de unde nu e , nici Dumnezeu nu cere. And I don't play God as Bivolaru does. :P

[CT2507]

look, forget about the Swedish court. the fact is that the man is free. so there are no charges against him period! and the swedes don't help criminals... only Romanians do that kind of thing!

U don't play God but u sure like to cast the blame and play judge!

[LamaEsoteric]

Lies lies lies... in Romania MISA is a good subject for giving circus to the people, as Nastase said.

The priest says that all members should donate their posesions. Mahacutra, you left the school being very upset because your husband left you on Grieg's advice (advice not given without being asked for). Did you give everything to MISA when you joined the yoga school? ;)

You do this just because you seek revenge.

[mahacutra]

The facts about MISA are the same whether I left the school upset or not.

My private life is none of your business, but I won't let you misinformed:

I left my husband and I divorced, he only betrayed and lied to me.

I have no information about Grieg's valuable advices in this matter. But if a man needs the advice of somebody else who nearly doesn't know anything about him, about his wife and their relationship and whom he meets only once a year, what kind of man is this?

[CT2507]

hahaha... "he only betrayed and lied to me"

Mahacunt - the perfect victim!

and u ofcorse were only truthfull and loyal!? :)

u are a false and superficial bitch, and thats why yoga didnt taste well in your mouth. what tantra does, it speeds up everything. your superficial relation to your husband would have ended anyhow because of your stupid ideas. tantra only made it happen faster.

u should be greatfull for that!

[mahacutra]

I already said this: my private life is none of anybody elses business. That includes you too.

For your correct information: my "superficial relationship" lasted 20 years. I was "related" with MISA over 14 years. You make me laugh with - happen faster.

MISA yoga is no yoga at all, young man. That's why I learned to be a yoga teacher from somebody competent.

MISA tantra is a way to transforme normal girls in whores, normal people in superficial

[CT2507]

Oh... hahaha.. that's a good one!

Well, who the fuck started making your private life an issue if it wasn't your own stupid self!!! :))

u are the one who told the whole internet about your husband. pehaps u should learn to keep your mouth shut about private matters.

my parents were married for 25 years and had a very superficial relation, because they are superficial themselves... just like u. so ofcorse it happens. all over the world! thousands and thousands of superficial marriages!

[mahacutra]

My private life is not the subject of the exmisa forums, as everybody knows.

I only mentioned some private aspects when talking about my experience with MISA, because they show something.

Guys like you, are starting to discuss this subject because of lack of arguments. That's all.

[mahacutra]

I had nothing valuable to give as I joined the school.

But I know people who where manipulated to donate some of their possesions or money.

I also know that while some yoga students pay nothing for the courses, other ones with money have to pay exagerated prices for them. Ask Klaus Koch from Germany how much he had to pay for the shivaism courses. I suppose you know the price :-) they pay in Romania for those courses.

[CT2507]

Gurdjieff also had the students who had more money pay more than the ones who didnt. its a very normal and old procedure both in the normal and the spiritual life. and its very fair.

besides its a very good lesson for u. now u learned that u only get back from yoga what u yourself invested! and it sounds like it wasn't very much !!

dumb Romanian bitch!

[mahacutra]

Dear Romanian guy living in Denmark, who practiced yoga for 10 years, who taught yoga for 2 years at NATHA, but who says he is not a yogi and who declares he knows Bivolaru personally, how many times shall I tell you I am not Romanian?

The subject of this documentary isn't what I learned from yoga or my private life. Remember this.

The yoga I learned gave me back the fact that I am a yoga teacher, for example, and not a self intitled one who falsified his diploma like Bivolaru. :P

[CT2507]

hahaha... stupid bitch. so what of my background!? i left it behind me several years ago and am not into yoga anymore.. so what!? what do u think u accomplish by telling me what i know.

u write Romanian so i assume u are Romanian.

i don't know of Bilovarus falsifications of documents... but i would certainly expect him to do such things when dealing with stupid Romanian authorities and students.

and its perfectly understandable too... if u are no Romanian then u have no chance

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[CT2507]

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in hell knowing how it is to live in that society and be chased, beaten and locked up by the secret police.

plus u have a corrupt government, media, and a twisted moral system to deal with. parents screaming brainwash at the drop of a coin, not realizing how brainwashed they themselves are by the lying media...and so on.

u are only out to hurt a man u know almost nothing about.

did u even meet him in person ever?

[mahacutra]

CT, you called me stupid, bitch, superficial and so on and you don't know if I met personally the big master you defend here?

The great expert in mahacutra doesn't know such a simple thing?

I know the Romanian comunist system better than you, who left Romania at the age of 7. I lived there for 23 years, my boy.

All that you write here is from hearing or reading.

And I surely don't know Bivolaru from the fairy tales you read.

I won't waste my time with you anymore.

[CT2507]

ofcorse u are a stupid bitch when u are out to destroy a mans reputation who is doing so much work to awaken the sleeping Romanians. as if he didn't have enough trouble with the slimy secret police and their media! now he has to deal with a fucked up failed yogini as well ... who didn't get her orgasms or swallowed one to many dirty dicks!

we are all the makers of our own lives... and so are u. u can only thank yourself for the situations u have gotten yourself into.

[mahacutra]

He is destroying his reputation through. Read his latest articles on yogaesoteric, for example.

Which sleeping Romanians did he awaken?

The girls that are performing in porn movies whitout their knowledge? The ones he takes the money they make in striptease bars or on erotic videochat?

We are all the makers of aour own lives, that's true.

It isn't me who was in jail, who has problems with the media, police and justice or who has to live far away from his harem, for example.

[CT2507]

no it isn't u who has problems with the media, because u are a nobody. u are no threat to the power elite/Freemasons in the Romanian system... and they know well that a single good beating would shut u up, if u were ever to voice your opinion against them!

so u don't count in that respect!.. not at all.

i said he is working to awaken people ... not that he has done it!

now, what do u have against striptease... is it illegal? seems to me that u are sexually frustrated, and your

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[CT2507]

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problems are as simple as that.

u never had real spiritual experience and progress because u are not capable. u are a spiritual midget, and when u are not directly helped or pushed.. by for ex your husband, u fall back into your own level which is one of destruction, spreading negative rumors, and basically doing harm.

u want to appear like u are out for justice, but its only about your own and ugly egotistical urges.

im sure you would have done it anyway, hadn't it been for yoga.

[CT2507]

im reading his latest articles and they are as usual, full of penetrating intelligence. showing esoteric superior knowledge and an elegant way of juggling with difficult existential issues that are way above the capability of the average human being!

id like to see u write better articles...they'd probably be about how men lie to women!! haahhah :))

u are a looser in every respect and through the laws of resonance you will now attract even more loosing energies.

...but what else is new.

[CT2507]

...don't expect me to not waste time with u. every time i see u running your big and stupid mouth badly about Grieg i will be there.

[mahacutra]

I only wanted to show that you are a liar. Here you denie your conection with MISA, in your comments to other youtube videos you write about it. That's all.

If you would have read attentively what I wrote in Romanian, you would have known that I haven't Romanian blood, that I only lived "fast" in Romania. :))

And I also write German and English.

Your expectations and the things that are understandable to you aren't of interest here.

Bivolaru is preaching about the truth and he is a liar.

[CT2507]

hahaha... u see liars everywhere dont u, u silly bitch! perhaps its time to have your head examined!

i was associated with MISA many years ago. I never wrote that i am a part of MISA now... those are your stupid words. i have no connection with MISA, so what i tell is the truth...but who cares anyway. i don't need to explain myself to u.

the fact of the matter is that u are a vindictive simpleminded bitch out to do damage!

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[CT2507]

and all the windmills u think u are fighting are only your own projections ... i can assure u that!

im sure your husband left u cause he was either tired of your bitching, u were slowing him down or u were simply not attractive to him anymore... so why the hell should he keep u hanging on his arm when all u were doing was pulling him down. am i right!?... im sure i am.

[shaktifiredancer]

@LamaEsoteric

You are an apologist for a pimp who controls one of the largest networks of human traffickers in the world. You have the cheek to say that people should do what Grieg says. This is one of the problems within MISA, Grieg tells people who to have sex with and separates couples and families, causing much pain and distress. Why shouldn't people have sex with whoever they want, rather than listening to the dictates of a pimp?

[HydraulicApex]

@shaktifiredancer and a few girls out of a yoga school of 10 to 40 thousand people dosent have anything to do with human trafficing. So a few girls was trafficking themselves? - because they wanted to earn som money in strip bars, since they didnt have any money. really? wau, thats really crazy! the rest of what you write is just plain rediculous. Pimp? .. haha. you have a creative way to lie, inventing stuff out of the blue air.

[literesicifre]

imi spune cineva ce inseamna cutra ? eu nu pot sa spun decat ca i se potriveste

[mahacutra]

ZalauWebule, iti doresc sa iti folosesti capul pentru ceea ce a fost conceput. La capul de pe umeri ma refer, bineinteles. :P