Space Trek Wars

[daniellisnermeicker]

this sucks the empire would have crushed them

[1900librarian]

neat :)



[albertojedi1]

I'm crying jajajaja!!!! Data's laugh attack is incredible, hahaha!!!!

[Guardsmen100]

They shoot compressd gas not plasma

[Guardsmen100]

And they don't shoot lasers

[Guardsmen100]

The uss interprise is so top heavy......

[sbmrunning]

oh my gosh! " LAAAAASSSERRRRSSSSsssss?" lol  hahahahahahahahahaaa ! okay damn it ! somebody got this into proportion for me now ! okay time for me to go back to school on weaponry here ! Cause i think he's got it right! lol hahahahaaaa!

[StelarCF]

Now witness the firepower of this fooly armed and opeerational battlestation!

[Sammyy46]

LOL Data laughing in the background!

[elvnsword]

Massless Particle Beam is impossible. A Particle beam cannot be massless. If it is light gas as you say, then it is plasma based. The 1701-D has on two occasion hidden inside the corona of a sun, it is hard on the ship but possible, and proves plasma based weapons are at best, a minor threat. As for the facts, looking into the screens used by the Imperials, (deflector screens) they don't deflect asteroids, they can't stop an incoming ship, as such they are minimal compared to a Starship's shield

[onlypeaceindeath]

@elvnsword They are massless particle beams as described by the ICS i believe. That's why gravity don't affect them as seen in all of the films. Plasma a minor threat? Just because they can withstand the energy in the corona of a star for some minutes dosen't mean that plasma is ineffective, it just proves that the Enterprise D's shields can take a minuscule part of the sun's entire energy output.

[onlypeaceindeath]

@elvnsword Besides, Star Wars ships can stay in the corona of a star and not take any damage at all which proves how thermal resistant materials are in Star Wars.

[StelarCF]

@elvnsword first of all... IT IS NOT MASSLESS. It's just very fast particle beam which is then "excited" by a electric current

[elvnsword]

I frankly disagree... Turbolasers are a single phase laser based blast. A weapon that HAS been used against the Enterprise 1701-D in canon on two occasions. Both times the reaction was nearly identical.

The Enterprise 1701 D, and other ships in the canon following it frankly outclass all Imperial and Rebel star craft. What they do have an advantage in is ruthlessness, willingness to destroy planets is something that the Federation hasn't done before.

As such, minus the Force, Enterprise wins

[lgmmrm]

@elvnsword not if I come around in my awesome Sun crusher and fired torpedoes at em

[onlypeaceindeath]

@elvnsword Turbolasers are actually massless particle beams created by igniting Tibanna gas(or Tibanna gas is the most used i believe). Blasters, lasers, and turbolasers work on the same mechanism. These weapons has also proven to be very effective since even smaller ships like Jango Fett's Slave 1 was able to violently vapourize 6-8 meter asteroids and even shred asteroids that was as large as his ships with shots that just grazed them.

[StelarCF]

@onlypeaceindeath 6-8 METERS? that's an easy prey... 

[onlypeaceindeath]

@elvnsword And what do you base your facts on that the Enterprise D outclasses imperial and rebel crafts by the way? Most informatin i have seen says otherwise.

[StelarCF]

@onlypeaceindeath Please notice. Star Trek deflects things, has shields that can hold to a laser pointer(lol don't spam me I know it is plasma...) and has shield generators that don't just 'splode the moment you concentrate fire on it and so on. Star Trek has tractor beams(I.E. a good tactic against 1 ship(or even more) is to tractor it while staying in it's "blank" fire zone) and VERY modulatable deflector dishes (I.E. they can do almost anything with them)

[onlypeaceindeath]

@StelarCF Shield generators in Star Wars don't explode either if you don't fire some explosive shit on them, but Star Trek do have reactors that explodes if you just fart in the ship. And tractor beams are constantly mentioned in Star Wars. Star Wars do also have shields that don't leak compared to the federations crappy shields that allow the hull to take damage even if the shields are still up.

[StelarCF]

@onlypeaceindeath First of all I don't recall Star Trek ships' shields allowing the hull to take damage. It's shields are compartimented so that if one side fails they still have the other side up, also please notice that Star Wars shields are not shown to be leaking, but neither the contrary. Also tractor beams are mentioned in Star Wars, but do we actually see them in use? due to the lack of use I might say they are pretty bad so useful only on engines down ships

[onlypeaceindeath]

@StelarCF I've seen many episodes of Star Trek where you can see how things explode and sparks are flying everywhere inside the ship despite that the shields are still up. I can't recall the episode, but in one they even mention that they have taken thermal damage to the hull even with shields up. Star Wars shields don't allow damage to pass through like that. Tractor beams where used in episode 4 at a distance of thousands of kilometers by the Death Star and in the beginning of the movie.

[StelarCF]

@onlypeaceindeath You said Death Star? I say Borg Cube. And Borg Cube has dozens of Tractor Beams.

Also THEY DON'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HULL DAMAGE IN STAR WARS. So it's realm for speculation. Yes in Star Wars consoles don't explode in ppls faces but that was just a cheap special effect. In Star Wars their deflector is out in the open, being easy to target & destroy. And we all know that the deflector is everything between an salve of missiles and the ships hull

[onlypeaceindeath]

@StelarCF Most larger ships in Star Wars do have tractor beams for diffirent purposes. And no, Deflector shields are not in the open. They are most likley located in well protected rooms all over the ship. If you are thinking about the domes on the bridge towers, then for your information they are not shields but long range sensors.

[xgenerator]

ROFL awesome, LAZERS!, MUAHAHAAA!

[atenhoteph]

best trek/wars mash up ive seen. grats.

[Buradorii2]

Yea... Turbo Laser batteries would rip those shields in half :P

[StelarCF]

@Buradorii2 Turbo Laser batteries' plasma would be avoided due to slowness

[onlypeaceindeath]

@StelarCF I think they can regulate the speed on the bolts. Some times the turbolaser bolts travel faster in some scenes than in others.

[StelarCF]

@onlypeaceindeath then why don't they shoot fighters down like flies? in my opinion if they could regulate the speed then they should be able to speed the turbolaser bolts fast enough to get them down!

[onlypeaceindeath]

@StelarCF The extremely powerful ECM in Star Wars still makes it impossible for computers to accurately target small objects like fighters at high speeds. We could see in the battle of Yavin that bolts where moving pretty fast and they where still unable to hit the X-wings.

[StelarCF]

@onlypeaceindeath "Small" objects? I don't declare X-Wings as small because they actually are pretty big. Now may I introduce an unstable element, the runabouts? As you seem to add diversity I will add too. A runabout is probably twice as large as a X-Wing and can go to warp and similarly high speeds, e.g. c/2. Can they target that?

[onlypeaceindeath]

@StelarCF Try to hit a 10-15 meter long target hundreds of meters or even kilometers away on the move. I don't think it's that easy. And it's impossible to hit anything above the speed of light as the bolts of the turbolasers can't reach above it. But otherwise i think the Runabout lacks the ECM of an equivalent ship in Star Wars and don't have the energy necessary to power such powerful equipment and would be very pretty easy to hit.

[onlypeaceindeath]

@StelarCF But if it stay at a greater distance the pilot might be able to predict the bolts path and dodge it. But I can't see how it would be able to survive a few hundred meters away from a Star Destroyer for example.

[maxcardun]

Lay zers.....

[thxoneonethreeeight]

lol i like it when Data starts laughing