The NASA model was developed by Hansen. He had it programmed to predict a rapid increase in OHC based on the questionable CO2-based AGW hypothesis. Because of a major weakness in the AGW hypothesis (the never realized positive feedback loops) NASA's model is unable to predict OHC correctly, let alone the world's climate.
Colorado researchers to consider Arctic ice tipping point
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A research effort led by the University of Colorado Boulder, will consider whether areas like the Beaufort Sea and the adjacent Canada Basin have passed a ‘tipping point’ and now are essentially sub-Arctic zones where ice disappears each summer.
Coleman has no education in the field of climate change. Coleman sees himself as an expert on weather (albeit a journalism degree in 1957 from the University of Illinois), not on climate or climate change.
CO2 one of the building blocks of a productive ecology.
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“Experiments conducted in places like the U.S and Europe, where scientists pumped extra amounts of carbon dioxide gas into forests, did seem to show that such ‘carbon dioxide fertilization,’ caused plants to grow better—up to a point,” says Nemani.
" Scientists and environmental policy decision makers across the world want to know what is happening to all the carbon in the carbon dioxide pumped into the atmosphere through fossil fuel and biomass burning, such as forest fires or firewood used as fuel. If carbon dioxide is “food” for plants, maybe more of it in the atmosphere caused plants to grow better."
The weather channel online has facts that back up global warming, just look at the record high temps in the last ten years and record cold, in my city it is 50 high records vs 2 low records, this guys is a fraud
@livingproofof Yeah, I've caught a bit of the Weather channel recently, and they had a special on extreme weather and global warming, several months ago. I'm not really familiar with this yahoo fraud John Coleman, but the fact of the matter is you can't sue people for supporting a scientific theory, although right-wingers certainly wish they could.
My city as well has been experiencing extreme weather for several years now. It started out many years ago as off, not it's just full out extreme.
And if you catch the news you might see Japan experiencing inordinate amounts of snow, I coudln't tell you how much, but I saw one old man's house pretty much buried somewhere, and there was an ice rink roof collapse somewhere in Eastern Europe maybe, due to extreme snow.
Roof collapsing, something the US has to call in the National Guard to many a places now to get the inordinate amounts of snow off.
@PrairLeDogged Excuse me, the extreme weather discussed below and the roof cave in this week, as well as flooding all over Asia etc... are just the beginning of the extreme weather we have in store. I suggest you prepare for it instead of spreading your usual denier lies all over Youtube
moron, did you see the record heat in texas and the rest of the country the last two years, look up texas drought, new mexico wilfires, geogia drought with 2010 2011 in the search terms, fools!
NOAA: 2010 Tied For Warmest Year on Record
According to NOAA scientists, 2010 tied with 2005 as the warmest year of the global surface temperature record, beginning in 1880. This was the 34th ...
NASA - NASA Finds 2011 Ninth Warmest Year on Record
Personally, I hope it does go to court. Then we can find out exactly how many of these proclaimed scientists, are actually scientists. We can then put all the evidence of the table and watch these idiots try and refute it. I'm game.
9000 PHD's dont believe Man is causing earth temperature to warm. Did any of you eco-nuts catch that? Sound like more than the UN's 1,000 so-called scientist with manipulate results orient research.
@23peacefrog Hey there they may be annoying but they (vegans) are doing a lot for the environment by not eating meat with a vegetarian diet. There is a statistic that livestock is a huge portion of greenhouse effect. I'd have to look it up.
Please type into Google "Digging into the core: The cold truth about CO2" to see my article on global warming and why the IPCC have grossly exaggerated the predicted warming from CO2.
You did not answer my question. How is the lawsuit going?
Yes the predictions have either been accurate, or underestimative.
Ask anyone in science or at your local university. The most trustworthy source for science is the big science magazines, like "Nature". This is because nothing get published without serious peer-reviewing. After that comes universities, institutions and governments.
What you call "cult" is what sane people call the western science community.
@TheSaltyAdmiral You will be waiting a long time to get an answer about the pretend lawsuit, only in right-wing land can you "sue someone" for supporting a scientific theory. It is just wishful thinking on their part.
You were taught by them you fool ~ they've infiltrated the education system and vast sections of the media ~ my son went into Uni a level headed individual came out a twisted Vegan knob head ~ yep so a bad trip hip OK !!
Shitfire, in the past couple of years, I've seen you lie, insult, make threats, use different accounts to cower behind, make racist statements, and even pretend to care about "birds."
But with this post, you are officially the most offensive turd burglar on youtube.
I can't imagine how awful it would be to be your son.
The Global Warming Debate is a disinformation campaign
Nothing more than stalling for time by the elite and their sheep like followers
& we ignore other problems to focus on this issue. I hope people will not be too surprised if we fix the co2 thing you turn around & shit there's no bees to pollinate your crops, no tuna left eat... We are witnessing an extinction event now
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"From a purely evolutionary point of view, warm periods have always benefited plants and animals. The world has thrived during the warming periods between the ice ages. Cold periods have always caused serious survival problems for all organisms including mankind. Scientific studies show that there will be 40,000 fewer deaths each year in the U.S. In Britain alone, scientists estimate that about 30,000 deaths a year are related to cold winter weather. "
@DrakulanOfficial "In 2010, global average temperature was 0.53°C (0.95°F) above the 1961-90 mean. This value is 0.01°C (0.02°F) above the nominal temperature in 2005, and 0.02°C (0.05°F) above 1998" WMO 2011
"Motives: Many people would like to be kind to others so Leftists exploit that with their nonsense about equality. Most people want a clean, green environment so Greenies exploit that by inventing all sorts of far-fetched threats to the environment. But for both, the real motive is generally to promote themselves as wiser and better than everyone else, truth regardless."
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"The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it" -- H L Mencken
New Green bird friendly energy ~ could save our bird and bat populations for our grandchildren to enjoy.
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"Methane hydrate, as the substance is known, has long been regarded by oil and gas companies as a nuisance, because it can block marine drilling rigs. Now a study by Statoil, Norway’s state oil firm and a leading global gas producer, suggests it should be reclassified as a significant fuel resource, with enough buried in the oceans to power the world for decades or even centuries."
Investors also are cooling on wind investment because of falling power prices, a lack of transmission infrastructure and the possibility that federal subsidies may expire next year. T. Boone Pickens, one of wind power’s biggest boosters, decided to focus on promoting gas-fueled trucking fleets after canceling plans for a Texas wind farm in 2010.
'had to happen' the problem with you is that you don't think long term! Just like when you get confused with short term weather and long term climate!
The fact that FOX is the network willing to air this, makes me nervous.. Because i do not believe that man is the biggest reason for global warming, but FOX is a fucking propaganda channel..
@MarkHorp any channel that presents one side of an argument is a propoganda channel, take the BBC, it is supposed to be independent, it only pushes one side of the agw story.
@MarkHorp good news in America though, i think denial was a crass word but good news nonetheless.
Climate change skepticism seeps into science classrooms
Some states have introduced education standards requiring teachers to defend the denial of man-made global warming. A national watchdog group says it will start monitoring classrooms.
@Nightversionn I wonder if Mr or miss Horp also likes to play on Brokeback Mountain and pretend to be meteorologist with a wife and 2 children? But really thinks they are pretty in pink
@YourKidsArentSpecial Yeah, there are at least nine personalities, but countless other sock accounts. After a long time a pattern does become evident. Now it's so obvious he just needs some new material, but there isn't any.
“I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow – even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is !
Do you remember dinosaurs? What about mammoths? I'll bet you a million dollars that in a few thousand years, the temperature outside is going to be just a little bit different than it is today. I'll bet you a million more dollars that the humans aren't going to be the right people to blame for this. I might be wrong. Maybe "ice ages" are fake...
OMG ~ the hippies were right ~ tipping points and testicular warts and all of the other crap your panties settled pseudo-science.
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We are on the brink of disaster and it is all our fault ~ glacial retreat and melting ice caps are the 'Canary in the mine' of a poisoned planet ~ but then there are those who have seen it all before.
Evidence from seabed sediments in the Prince Gustav Channel on the Antarctic Peninsula after the ice shelf that previously blocked it collapsed has shown that it had disappeared at least once before in the last 10,000 years.
"Thus, the present loss of ice shelves cannot be assumed to be a consequence of Man-made climate change, unless and until a cause can be identified"
Peer Reviewed Study: Increased Solar Flux Drove Global Warming During 20th Century
New research published in 2011 & 2012 continues to build on a major 1999 study that found increased sun activity (solar flux, etc.) is a significant cause of modern global warming
Who are you kidding? Either you are saying that to suck up to him witch makes you a liar, or you just admitted to being the most boring person on this planet. Or maybe you just have a strange fascination with weather, but that ain't likely.
@BelaFleckFan If you value the opinion of scientists, then you should be as worried about climate change as he is. This "controversy in science" is a myth. The scientific consensus is that we're fucking up the planet, and that it might not be reversible if we don't stop.
@Nightversionn Right. Follow the money! A large number of megacorporations have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo of burning vast amounts of carbon-based fuel and dumping the waste into the atmosphere. Of course they will try to stop anything that threatens that, and the easiest way is to spread misinformation to gullible people like Belafleckfan on the internet. Learn 2 fact check and don't trust science info from any site with advertisements of any kind!
@cyxgun 10 years ago they called it "Global Warming" When the evidence proved the ice caps were growing and the planet was getting cooler they called it "Climate Change"
You can believe Al gore and dismiss the evidence submitted by 1000's of scientists, however I choose to believe science over the word of a politician. especially the word of Al Gore who claimed he created the internet! youtube.com/watch?v=BnFJ8cHAlco
@BelaFleckFan "and believe lying politicians." Such as Perry , Palin, Bachmann, Gingrich, Santorum and the rest of the scientifically illiterate chorus line - as ignorant of climate science as they are of evolution, plate tectonics, astronomy, geology etc etc
"I choose to believe science over the word of a politician"
Excellent! Then you'll certainly believe 150 years worth of physics which says atmospheric CO2 absorbs and re-emits longwave radiation, and is the most integral non-condensing gas to the greenhouse effect.
"Science" also tells us that adding more CO2 to the atmosphere creates an enhanced greenhouse effect.
@YourKidsArentSpecial Without C02 and the greenhouse effect planet Earth would be cold and uninhabitable, the Oceans would be dead and there would be no plant life.
If C02 was responsible for global warming why has the climate been getting cooler the past 13 years when there is more C02? The main cause of a warmer climate is Sun spot activity, believe it or not but the sun effects our climate more than humans exhaling and driving SUV's. Or are you a tinfoil hat Sun denier?
@BelaFleckFan "If C02 was responsible for global warming why has the climate been getting cooler the past 13 years when there is more C02?" Simple - it hasnt. Next stupid question.
@wildcrazygoats First you said I hate Al gore which is an untruth and next you say that the climate is getting warmer despite all the evidence to the contrary. Even Al gore and his small group of followers have admitted its getting cooler and even renamed "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" so as to continue the facade. Obviously critical thinking and honesty is not something that comes naturally to you, so I will not reply to any more of your silly irrational comments. You have a nice day now!
@BelaFleckFan "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" Stupid argument - even for you. You can find on the internet memos from GOP hack Frank Luntz to Bush et al talking about promoting the term "climate change" over "global warming" because focus groups find it less threatening & scary .
"Even Al gore and his small group of followers have admitted its getting cooler " is a pathetic lie
@BelaFleckFan "so I will not reply to any more of your silly irrational comments. " typical denier - make ridiculous unsubstantiated comments, regurgitate the standard lies, then run away when challenged. You have learnt well from the creationists who use the same arguments & tactics - its called"pigeon chess"
I've seen more, buddy, but it ain't like you folks could ever be accused of over achieving.
"Construction of a Composite Total Solar Irradiance (TSI) Time Series from 1978 to present" from PMOD makes it very clear that "Sun spot activity" was DEFINITELY not responsible for " Past Decade Warmest on Record According to Scientists in 48 Countries" (NOAA)
@BelaFleckFan "humans exhaling " - humans exhaling make absolutely no difference to atmospheric CO2 levels - you are just regurgitating another bullshit denier claim. The reason is very basic science.....see if you can work out why. (thats a big word isnt it : S-C-I-E-N-C-E )
@BelaFleckFan This is just... not.... true! Google "global warming evidence" and click on the FIRST LINK. This is NASA, a non-partisan, unbiased organization, and they have a TON of evidence conclusively showing that climate change is real, and that it is man-made. What has happened is that YOU are not getting your science information from actual scientists, but biased news organizations that spread lies (such as your report that thousands of scientists disagree with warming.)
@BelaFleckFan "And to claim that scientists who don't work for NASA are "News organisations that spread lies" is preposterous." It seems English may not be your first language - comprehension is obviously not your strong point
@cyxgun "but biased news organizations that spread lies (such as your report that thousands of scientists disagree with warming.)" The denier industry looks to FoxNews as a scientific institution
@BelaFleckFan blah blah blah......AL GORE.......blah blah blah.....A GORE. Give you hatred of a Gore a rest - it is of no relevance to climate science.
@wildcrazygoats I never said I hated Mr Al Gore because I do not hate him, what I said was I trust science over the word of a politician, especially a politician who claims as Mr Gore did that he "created the Internet
Mr John Coleman is asking for a debate on the subject of "Global Warming" 4 years later and Al Gore and his scientists are still refusing to discuss this subject with the scientific community.... and then we have you trying to censor people like me with your lies.
@BelaFleckFan " Al Gore and his scientists" WTF is that supposed to mean "his scientists" . Forget about GORE you idiot - he is totally irrelevant to climate science ....... you know that global socialist conspiracy supported by NASA , the Pentagon, the worlds scientific institutions, governments of all political flavours
@BelaFleckFan "10 years ago they called it "Global Warming"" more denier bullshit. over 10 years ago Republican adviser Frank Luntz wrote "The Environment : A cleaner, Healthier, Safer America" for George Bush - it encouraged the Bush administration to use only the term "climate change" because in GOP focus groups it sounded less threatening & more uncertain than "global warming" (along with other deceptions) . The memo is available on the internet - you only have your ignorance to lose
“I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow – even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is !
cont... after all, despite the fact that the IPCC predicted that there was going to be a one degree rise of temperature by 2010, it actually got cooler.
@Nightversionn oh dear i hope the skeptical scientists are right, after all only one person has to be right, the others act like sheep of there is a meal to be had out of it.
@laureloilcompanybush, that's really rich, accusing scientists of on the one hand being sheep, on the other, dishonest, frauds, doing it for a meal (that is obviously YOU), it's really rich of you accusing scientists of lying all the while hiding your ties to Big Oil
@Nightversionn where exactly do you get your evidence? Every bit of global warming is fraud, Co2 is too heavy to rise up to the atmosphere and cause warming of the earth, and the ozone layer keeps heat in, if there was a hole in it why would it be hotter?
@YourKidsArentSpecial what are you talking about? chemistry and flight are two totally different things, wait am why am I arguing with an obvious troll?
So "Co2 is too heavy to rise up to the atmosphere" but airplanes AREN'T because "chemisty and flight are two totally different things."
Say that out loud, buddy, and see how it sounds.
I'm afraid I can't remove the veil of conservative lunacy which assures that you remain hopelessly benighted, friend.
I can, however, contextualize the stupidity and antipathy of your assertion that the physics behind AGW is suspect, simply because it offends your authoritarian sensibilities.
@YourKidsArentSpecial yeah it does make sense, because airplanes use aerodynamics to fly and co2 molecules by themselves can't float to the ozone layer, so please research topics first before attacking me, and another thing is that you won't win an argument if you call me stupid and conservative over and over again friend.
If you "think" that the atmosphere is "layered" with the heaviest gases at the bottom, then you are completely ignorant of every facet of the science you're denying, from the jet stream to good old fashioned physics.
You want to say something stupid in a public forum, buddy?
@YourKidsArentSpecial i went to check out your website and unfortunately instead of finding facts for both sides if found another biased site, it also seems that you are very passionate about this subject, and by passionate i mean you attack anyone who has different opinions of you and spam these videos, so if you find a non biased site contact me and then we'll talk
Just so we have this straight, you "think" that the AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF PHYSICS is a "biased site."
Sorry, buddy.
It just doesn't get more objective than that.
Again. If you want to "think" that the earth is flat, that's fine. But when you come on a public forum trying to convince people that your anti-science fantasies are fact, then expect to be taken to task for it.
@YourKidsArentSpecial that was not the american institute of physics you sent to was not the american institute of physics, and where are you coming off insulting me? All i have been trying to do is have a debate but then you who goes around all day attacking people on global warming videos and making crap up? Yes, I guess I'M the idiot in this instead of the one presenting false claims and calling the other a conservative idiot.
@YourKidsArentSpecial " "Co2 is too heavy to rise up into the atmosphere," This claim is regularly bounced around the deniers echo chamber. I wonder how they account for CFCs being found in the stratosphere , as these are only of man made origin and far higher MW than CO2.
You're giving them WAY too much credit. Deniers don't think that far ahead. And you can show them that their conclusion violates physical laws until your blue in the face.
They not only won't believe you, they'll usually get angry.
"Belief perseverance" is an interesting, albeit pathological, phenomenon.
@YourKidsArentSpecial You are right.....I had argument with one who maintained CO2 does not absorb heat. I suggested they look up the widely available IR absorbance spectrum and compare with spectra of N2, O2 & Ar. Of course this was dismissed as it was biased science. So I guess IR spectra are only valid until they scan CO2 - then it becomes part of a global socialist conspiracy
Someone who's been caught red handed posting under ALL of the above is accusing others?
I guess it makes sense that someone who frequently throws hen parties for herself and her SEVEN other personalities would be all broken up over the fate of a "red kite."
@wildcrazygoats Clara, did you pick this name out as a fond memory for your Brokeback Mountain adventures? I knew you liked the sheep & cows but I see you also liked to play nasty with goats. :-0
Recent Clara Massa accounts terminated. TheElasticjesus,Simplex1swrhs90, Deskset24,Andizine,RandomLaughingMan, and TardedChannelCopier. Goog2k account found guilty and now terminated!
"What happened to all that melting that was supposed to be going on in the Arctic? Ya gotta laugh! To explain why the Montreal ban on CFC's is not stopping ozone depeletion, they let global cooling in the door"
GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 38, L24814, 5 PP., 2011
B.-M. Sinnhuber et al.
"The Arctic stratospheric winter of 2010/2011 was one of the coldest on record with a large loss of stratospheric ozone."
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But like all of the Extra Snow and Ice it will be due to warming you see ;o)
@PrairleDogged 1) The extent of Arctic sea ice in 2011 was the second lowest on record, and its volume was the lowest. WMO 2012
2) 6 to 30 miles up = stratospheric ozone, as you get higher into the atmosphere, it generally gets colder 3) Arctic sea ice is in contact with the troposphere, not the stratosphere. 4)The 13 warmest years have all occurred in the 15 years since 1997
Global temperatures in 2011 are currently the tenth highest on record though over the last 5000 years quite normal with a very benign climate at the moment compared to the last 1000 years.
Global temperatures in 2011 are currently the tenth highest on record and are higher than any previous year with a La Niña event, which has a relative cooling influence. The 13 warmest years have all occurred in the 15 years since 1997. The extent of Arctic sea ice in 2011 was the second lowest on record, and its volume was the lowest. WMO 2012
Must be due to the soot in the atmosphere ;O) or is this weeks "settled science" view that soot is a cooling agent? it is so hard to keep up on the latest doublespeak coming out of the crimatology stinktank ~ do they use Runes or Chicken Bones?
@PrairLeDogged All fossil fuel impacts are bad for the environment, methane and soot need to be dealt with too, not just co2. Wow, you are makin' progress on learning about fossil fuels and how they are destroying our future. Wow.
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30000 scientists..., were is my hydrogen generator! A cup of water and I have electricity for a week. Back to the drawing board, you lizard pricks, the cup of water is waiting!
@23peacefrog Re: Yes the carbon modeling prophets have to update their doom & gloom prophecies all the time, thank you for pointing that out. Do you know Yortuk Massa?
@Nightversionn I'm glad you like it my dear. The Climate scientists are not really scientists, they are carbon prophets spouting gloom & doom prophecies for their carbon tax mafia backers. Have a nice evening Clara, how's Scotland?
...you can characterise this issue as being all about money but
We are talking about the whole world means of producing energy so naturally huge sums of money are going to be involved in this. And where you have much £s you have corruption, vested interests and good old
fashioned stealing. This in no way is a reason to stick to the current suicidal path
Who the f**k IS this Clara? 1 account is enough for me thanks
Re the "carbon wall street mafia"
Don't blame me for the people who make the decisions in this world. The argument may be finally being won on GW this doesn't mean it's not the same corporate whores pulling the strings!! What? GW warming has been excepted so the greens have taken over all governments? Er, no
@23peacefrog Toady, looks like the climate wizards are going to have to make some changes to their magic in their crystal balls, and update their carbon doom & glomm prophecies. LOL
Later today, January 13th, “More or Less” returns to the bet, which I am pleased to say I won, though I note that this bet, or its conclusion, is not yet mentioned on Annan’s Wikipedia entry despite his other climate bet being discussed.
cont........ It was made between climatologist James Annan and myself. His work involves analysing climatic data and validating climate models. He accepted enthusiastically as he has a perchant for taking on 'sceptics.' The presenter said that if the global temperature didn’t go up in the next few years, “there would be some explaining to do.”
To my surprise interest in my article was worldwide, and eventually the BBC’s radio programme “More or Less” got in touch. The programme is about numbers and statistics and they set up a series of interviews. You can hear the programme here.
Almost at the last minute the programme-makers came up with the idea of a bet. It was for £100 that, using the HadCrut3 data set, there would be no new record set by 2011.
A paper published today in Geophysical Research Letters finds no significant change in Antarctic snowmelt over the entire 31 year period of satellite observations 1979-2010.
Not only is ice extent the highest in seven years, but the ice is getting thicker and is positioned exactly where alarmists don’t want it to be. The thick ice has shifted towards the west into the Chukchi Sea, where it will slow summer melt.
Combine that with sea surface temperatures in the Bering Sea which are far below normal, and our chicken little friends are looking at a very bad summer.
Each decade since the 1970's has been warmer than the last. We also note that if we compare 1971-2001 (1.78°C/century) with 1971-2005 (1.9°C/century) (hadley data)we find that the rate of warming is accelerating. Since the 1970's on average it has warmed 0.2 C per decade. Next.
@laurelbush Yet again someone who hasn't identified the difference between antarctic SEA ice which melts and reforms every year and the rapidly decreasing LAND ice in antarctica.1) Which do you think is more significant, decreasing land ice which goes into the sea and is or increasing sea ice? 2) Estimates of recent changes in Antarctic land ice range from losing 100 Gt/year to over 300 Gt/year.(Chen et al. 2006, Wingham et al. 2006, Rignot et al. 2008b, Cazenave et al. 2009 and Velicogna 2009)
cont..... The US has no useful icebreakers. Money for such has been requested for years, but deleted from the Federal budget because new icebreakers would send the wrong message relative to the ‘Global Warming’ dogma.
Global Warming is the biggest HOAX in history.
skinnydude911 32 minutes ago
The NASA model was developed by Hansen. He had it programmed to predict a rapid increase in OHC based on the questionable CO2-based AGW hypothesis. Because of a major weakness in the AGW hypothesis (the never realized positive feedback loops) NASA's model is unable to predict OHC correctly, let alone the world's climate.
motoxmainia 5 hours ago
Climate change news:
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Colorado researchers to consider Arctic ice tipping point
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A research effort led by the University of Colorado Boulder, will consider whether areas like the Beaufort Sea and the adjacent Canada Basin have passed a ‘tipping point’ and now are essentially sub-Arctic zones where ice disappears each summer.
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Summit County Citizens Voice, Colorado
26 January 2012
Nightversionn 6 hours ago
No Need to Panic About Global Warming
There's no compelling scientific argument for drastic action to 'decarbonize' the world's economy.
"The wall street journal"
motoxmainia 10 hours ago
Coleman has no education in the field of climate change. Coleman sees himself as an expert on weather (albeit a journalism degree in 1957 from the University of Illinois), not on climate or climate change.
CaeserOct 11 hours ago
@CaeserOct "Me write pretty but no know science. Oh well."
CaeserOct 11 hours ago
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CO2 one of the building blocks of a productive ecology.
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“Experiments conducted in places like the U.S and Europe, where scientists pumped extra amounts of carbon dioxide gas into forests, did seem to show that such ‘carbon dioxide fertilization,’ caused plants to grow better—up to a point,” says Nemani.
PrairleDogged 13 hours ago
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" Scientists and environmental policy decision makers across the world want to know what is happening to all the carbon in the carbon dioxide pumped into the atmosphere through fossil fuel and biomass burning, such as forest fires or firewood used as fuel. If carbon dioxide is “food” for plants, maybe more of it in the atmosphere caused plants to grow better."
PrairleDogged 13 hours ago
The weather channel online has facts that back up global warming, just look at the record high temps in the last ten years and record cold, in my city it is 50 high records vs 2 low records, this guys is a fraud
livingproofof 14 hours ago
@livingproofof Yeah, I've caught a bit of the Weather channel recently, and they had a special on extreme weather and global warming, several months ago. I'm not really familiar with this yahoo fraud John Coleman, but the fact of the matter is you can't sue people for supporting a scientific theory, although right-wingers certainly wish they could.
My city as well has been experiencing extreme weather for several years now. It started out many years ago as off, not it's just full out extreme.
Nightversionn 13 hours ago
..now it's just full out extreme, rather.
And if you catch the news you might see Japan experiencing inordinate amounts of snow, I coudln't tell you how much, but I saw one old man's house pretty much buried somewhere, and there was an ice rink roof collapse somewhere in Eastern Europe maybe, due to extreme snow.
Roof collapsing, something the US has to call in the National Guard to many a places now to get the inordinate amounts of snow off.
Nightversionn 13 hours ago
@livingproofof
And your City is your world ? Right *o)
PrairleDogged 13 hours ago
@PrairLeDogged Excuse me, the extreme weather discussed below and the roof cave in this week, as well as flooding all over Asia etc... are just the beginning of the extreme weather we have in store. I suggest you prepare for it instead of spreading your usual denier lies all over Youtube
Nightversionn 11 hours ago
@Nightversion'n'
Have you your placards and sandwich board ready ~ "The end is Nighty"
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moron, did you see the record heat in texas and the rest of the country the last two years, look up texas drought, new mexico wilfires, geogia drought with 2010 2011 in the search terms, fools!
NOAA: 2010 Tied For Warmest Year on Record
According to NOAA scientists, 2010 tied with 2005 as the warmest year of the global surface temperature record, beginning in 1880. This was the 34th ...
NASA - NASA Finds 2011 Ninth Warmest Year on Record
livingproofof 14 hours ago
Personally, I hope it does go to court. Then we can find out exactly how many of these proclaimed scientists, are actually scientists. We can then put all the evidence of the table and watch these idiots try and refute it. I'm game.
Feyd01 19 hours ago
theres a difference between natural co2 an chemically combusted co2, just like added sugar an natural sugar
Danshro 1 day ago
If you could see John Coleman on KUSI, you would realize that he isn't quite all there. Seriously, I think he is senile/insane.
841401 1 day ago
9000 PHD's dont believe Man is causing earth temperature to warm. Did any of you eco-nuts catch that? Sound like more than the UN's 1,000 so-called scientist with manipulate results orient research.
PhilJonesLIED 1 day ago
@TheNamaste2012 The people who don't like this video probably understand that a person cannot be sued for supporting a scientific theory
duh?
Nightversionn 2 days ago
The truth of this is obvious to someone that understands the science behide it.
TheNamaste2012 3 days ago
how can 1000 people dislike this?
TheNamaste2012 3 days ago
"Man-made global warming" is a hoax.
tabletalk33 3 days ago
@Nightversionn
you are so right!
23peacefrog 4 days ago
"PrairieDogged
"my son went to uni..came out a twisted vegan nob head"
I blame the genes. I think you need to give him some magic mushrooms and tell him about the 60s
I will grant you vegans are generally really annoying lol
23peacefrog 4 days ago
@23peacefrog Hey there they may be annoying but they (vegans) are doing a lot for the environment by not eating meat with a vegetarian diet. There is a statistic that livestock is a huge portion of greenhouse effect. I'd have to look it up.
Nightversionn 4 days ago
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Please type into Google "Digging into the core: The cold truth about CO2" to see my article on global warming and why the IPCC have grossly exaggerated the predicted warming from CO2.
CHIPSTERO7 4 days ago
How is this lawsuit coming along folks? ahahahahah
TheSaltyAdmiral 4 days ago
@TheSaltyAdmiral hows all the cult predictions coming along ... has one single claim made by the discredited AGW theory come true ?
NeverMINDtheBO11OCKS 4 days ago
@NeverMINDtheBO11OCKS
You did not answer my question. How is the lawsuit going?
Yes the predictions have either been accurate, or underestimative.
Ask anyone in science or at your local university. The most trustworthy source for science is the big science magazines, like "Nature". This is because nothing get published without serious peer-reviewing. After that comes universities, institutions and governments.
What you call "cult" is what sane people call the western science community.
TheSaltyAdmiral 4 days ago
@TheSaltyAdmiral You will be waiting a long time to get an answer about the pretend lawsuit, only in right-wing land can you "sue someone" for supporting a scientific theory. It is just wishful thinking on their part.
Nightversionn 4 days ago
@TheSaltyAdmiral "Yes the predictions have either been accurate, or underestimative" name just 1 .
motoxmainia 4 days ago
@PrairieDogged
"I was force fed that shit forty years ago..join the fucking dots hippie"
I'm still not a hippie no matter how many times you say it & I was born just over 30 years ago.
What is your big problem with them? Did you have a bad trip or were you too square to trip at all? It was a long time ago, get over it!
23peacefrog 5 days ago
@23peaceToad
You were taught by them you fool ~ they've infiltrated the education system and vast sections of the media ~ my son went into Uni a level headed individual came out a twisted Vegan knob head ~ yep so a bad trip hip OK !!
PrairleDogged 5 days ago
@DoggyStyle @shitfire @Cleopatra
"my son... a twisted Vegan knob head"
Wow.
Shitfire, in the past couple of years, I've seen you lie, insult, make threats, use different accounts to cower behind, make racist statements, and even pretend to care about "birds."
But with this post, you are officially the most offensive turd burglar on youtube.
I can't imagine how awful it would be to be your son.
YourKidsArentSpecial 5 days ago
The Global Warming Debate is a disinformation campaign
Nothing more than stalling for time by the elite and their sheep like followers
& we ignore other problems to focus on this issue. I hope people will not be too surprised if we fix the co2 thing you turn around & shit there's no bees to pollinate your crops, no tuna left eat... We are witnessing an extinction event now
23peacefrog 5 days ago
@23peaceToad
Christ you have it bad ~ I was force fed that shit forty years ago and guess what?
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Join the fucking dots Hippie !!!!
PrairleDogged 5 days ago
good start,
British MPs Form All Party Group To Stop Wind Farms
laurelbush 5 days ago
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Snow fell Tuesday in the province of Bechar in the Sahara Desert in western Algeria.
laurelbush 5 days ago
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"Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as 'bad luck.'"
-- Robert Heinlein
PrairleDogged 6 days ago
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Email 2234, Nov 2009, Phil Jones: "Warming since 1975 to 2008 is slightly more than 1915-44."
laurelbush 1 week ago
One mans meat *o)
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"From a purely evolutionary point of view, warm periods have always benefited plants and animals. The world has thrived during the warming periods between the ice ages. Cold periods have always caused serious survival problems for all organisms including mankind. Scientific studies show that there will be 40,000 fewer deaths each year in the U.S. In Britain alone, scientists estimate that about 30,000 deaths a year are related to cold winter weather. "
PrairleDogged 1 week ago
Substantial negative impacts to marine ecosystems (Orr 2005, Fabry 2008, Kroeker 2010)
Inhibiting plankton development, disruption of carbon cycle (Turley 2005)
Increased mortalities of sea urchins (Miles 2007)
Threat to fish populations (Munday 2010)
checkyoursources 1 week ago
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Are the snows of Kilimanjaro returning? Guide says yes
laurelbush 1 week ago
Al gore OWNED
FlyingAce1016 1 week ago
wake up.. global warming doesnt exist
DrakulanOfficial 1 week ago
@DrakulanOfficial
If global warming didn't exist there'd be no waking up.
TheElasticJesusRez 1 week ago
@DrakulanOfficial "In 2010, global average temperature was 0.53°C (0.95°F) above the 1961-90 mean. This value is 0.01°C (0.02°F) above the nominal temperature in 2005, and 0.02°C (0.05°F) above 1998" WMO 2011
checkyoursources 1 week ago
cont.... sorry last 200o years
laurelbush 1 week ago
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"Motives: Many people would like to be kind to others so Leftists exploit that with their nonsense about equality. Most people want a clean, green environment so Greenies exploit that by inventing all sorts of far-fetched threats to the environment. But for both, the real motive is generally to promote themselves as wiser and better than everyone else, truth regardless."
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"The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it" -- H L Mencken
PrairleDogged 1 week ago
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New Green bird friendly energy ~ could save our bird and bat populations for our grandchildren to enjoy.
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"Methane hydrate, as the substance is known, has long been regarded by oil and gas companies as a nuisance, because it can block marine drilling rigs. Now a study by Statoil, Norway’s state oil firm and a leading global gas producer, suggests it should be reclassified as a significant fuel resource, with enough buried in the oceans to power the world for decades or even centuries."
PrairleDogged 1 week ago
had to happen,
Wind Expansion Slows
Investors also are cooling on wind investment because of falling power prices, a lack of transmission infrastructure and the possibility that federal subsidies may expire next year. T. Boone Pickens, one of wind power’s biggest boosters, decided to focus on promoting gas-fueled trucking fleets after canceling plans for a Texas wind farm in 2010.
laurelbush 1 week ago
@laurelbush
'had to happen' the problem with you is that you don't think long term! Just like when you get confused with short term weather and long term climate!
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blackadderthe4 1 week ago
@blackadderthe4 do you mean i missed the 100- 150 year droughts in the US over the last 100- 150 years.
laurelbush 1 week ago
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@laurelbush
'do you mean i missed the...' what I'm saying is that you cherry pick and grap any straw argument like a drowning man in an attempt to make a point!
blackadderthe4 1 week ago
The fact that FOX is the network willing to air this, makes me nervous.. Because i do not believe that man is the biggest reason for global warming, but FOX is a fucking propaganda channel..
Al Gore is a fag..
MarkHorp 1 week ago
@MarkHorp any channel that presents one side of an argument is a propoganda channel, take the BBC, it is supposed to be independent, it only pushes one side of the agw story.
laurelbush 1 week ago
@laurelbush
Well, the mainstream media is generally controlled by corporate interests..
MarkHorp 1 week ago
@MarkHorp good news in America though, i think denial was a crass word but good news nonetheless.
Climate change skepticism seeps into science classrooms
Some states have introduced education standards requiring teachers to defend the denial of man-made global warming. A national watchdog group says it will start monitoring classrooms.
laurelbush 1 week ago
@laurelbush
The wonders of the internet..
Without it everyone would still believe every single word said on TV..
MarkHorp 1 week ago
@laureloilcompanybush Rather, I love the fake denier conversation you're having with yourself again
Nightversionn 1 week ago
@Nightversionn I wonder if Mr or miss Horp also likes to play on Brokeback Mountain and pretend to be meteorologist with a wife and 2 children? But really thinks they are pretty in pink
MarkGubbish 1 week ago
@MarkGubbish More nonsense from the resident comment troll and denier sock puppet
Nightversionn 1 week ago
@Nightversionn
These threads sure are quiet when "laurelbush" and her nine other personalities aren't posting.
YourKidsArentSpecial 5 days ago
@YourKidsArentSpecial Yeah, there are at least nine personalities, but countless other sock accounts. After a long time a pattern does become evident. Now it's so obvious he just needs some new material, but there isn't any.
Nightversionn 5 days ago
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@Nightversionn From: Phil Jones
To: “Michael E. Mann”
Subject: HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL
Date: Thu Jul 8 16:30:16 2004
“I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow – even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is !
Cheers
Phil”
ChristopherMonckton5 5 days ago
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Alfred Wegener Institute Neumayer Station III: Antarctic Cooling Over The Last 30 Years!
laurelbush 1 week ago
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Do you remember dinosaurs? What about mammoths? I'll bet you a million dollars that in a few thousand years, the temperature outside is going to be just a little bit different than it is today. I'll bet you a million more dollars that the humans aren't going to be the right people to blame for this. I might be wrong. Maybe "ice ages" are fake...
Robbie12992 1 week ago
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OMG ~ the hippies were right ~ tipping points and testicular warts and all of the other crap your panties settled pseudo-science.
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We are on the brink of disaster and it is all our fault ~ glacial retreat and melting ice caps are the 'Canary in the mine' of a poisoned planet ~ but then there are those who have seen it all before.
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htt p://trove. nla. gov. au/ndp/del/article/61382631?searchTerm=glaciersmelting&searchLimits=
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Prince Gustav Channel
Evidence from seabed sediments in the Prince Gustav Channel on the Antarctic Peninsula after the ice shelf that previously blocked it collapsed has shown that it had disappeared at least once before in the last 10,000 years.
"Thus, the present loss of ice shelves cannot be assumed to be a consequence of Man-made climate change, unless and until a cause can be identified"
British Antarctic Survey
PrairleDogged 1 week ago
Peer Reviewed Study: Increased Solar Flux Drove Global Warming During 20th Century
New research published in 2011 & 2012 continues to build on a major 1999 study that found increased sun activity (solar flux, etc.) is a significant cause of modern global warming
laurelbush 1 week ago
"Weather channel, my favorite channel"
Who are you kidding? Either you are saying that to suck up to him witch makes you a liar, or you just admitted to being the most boring person on this planet. Or maybe you just have a strange fascination with weather, but that ain't likely.
CvijaFaQ 1 week ago
"Al Gore Sued by 30,000 Scientists!" Open video: Al Gore sued by one moronic weather man.
LMAO@ Scientifically illiterate climate change deniers!
cyxgun 1 week ago
@cyxgun I prefer to believe the science than to believe a man like Al Gore who claimed he invented the internet
BelaFleckFan 1 week ago
@BelaFleckFan If you value the opinion of scientists, then you should be as worried about climate change as he is. This "controversy in science" is a myth. The scientific consensus is that we're fucking up the planet, and that it might not be reversible if we don't stop.
cyxgun 1 week ago
@cyxgun That's right, there is no controversy, it's a manufactured fake debate, a well-funded one by the oil industry
Nightversionn 1 week ago
@Nightversionn Right. Follow the money! A large number of megacorporations have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo of burning vast amounts of carbon-based fuel and dumping the waste into the atmosphere. Of course they will try to stop anything that threatens that, and the easiest way is to spread misinformation to gullible people like Belafleckfan on the internet. Learn 2 fact check and don't trust science info from any site with advertisements of any kind!
cyxgun 1 week ago
@cyxgun
Aaaahh a fresher ~ can I interest you in a green investment bond or two?
I can reduce your Carbon Foolprint by you giving me loads of dosh ~ guaranteed to save the planet and cure warts.
PrairleDogged 1 week ago
@cyxgun 10 years ago they called it "Global Warming" When the evidence proved the ice caps were growing and the planet was getting cooler they called it "Climate Change"
You can believe Al gore and dismiss the evidence submitted by 1000's of scientists, however I choose to believe science over the word of a politician. especially the word of Al Gore who claimed he created the internet! youtube.com/watch?v=BnFJ8cHAlco
BelaFleckFan 1 week ago
@BelaFleckFan More denier misinformation on display for the world to see
Nightversionn 1 week ago
@Nightversionn Yes it very sad that people deny the science and believe lying politicians.
BelaFleckFan 1 week ago
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@BelaFleckFan "and believe lying politicians." Such as Perry , Palin, Bachmann, Gingrich, Santorum and the rest of the scientifically illiterate chorus line - as ignorant of climate science as they are of evolution, plate tectonics, astronomy, geology etc etc
wildcrazygoats 1 week ago
@BelaFleckFan
"I choose to believe science over the word of a politician"
Excellent! Then you'll certainly believe 150 years worth of physics which says atmospheric CO2 absorbs and re-emits longwave radiation, and is the most integral non-condensing gas to the greenhouse effect.
"Science" also tells us that adding more CO2 to the atmosphere creates an enhanced greenhouse effect.
Congratulations on NOT being a science denier!
YourKidsArentSpecial 1 week ago
@YourKidsArentSpecial Without C02 and the greenhouse effect planet Earth would be cold and uninhabitable, the Oceans would be dead and there would be no plant life.
If C02 was responsible for global warming why has the climate been getting cooler the past 13 years when there is more C02? The main cause of a warmer climate is Sun spot activity, believe it or not but the sun effects our climate more than humans exhaling and driving SUV's. Or are you a tinfoil hat Sun denier?
BelaFleckFan 1 week ago
@BelaFleckFan "If C02 was responsible for global warming why has the climate been getting cooler the past 13 years when there is more C02?" Simple - it hasnt. Next stupid question.
wildcrazygoats 1 week ago
@wildcrazygoats First you said I hate Al gore which is an untruth and next you say that the climate is getting warmer despite all the evidence to the contrary. Even Al gore and his small group of followers have admitted its getting cooler and even renamed "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" so as to continue the facade. Obviously critical thinking and honesty is not something that comes naturally to you, so I will not reply to any more of your silly irrational comments. You have a nice day now!
BelaFleckFan 1 week ago
@BelaFleckFan "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" Stupid argument - even for you. You can find on the internet memos from GOP hack Frank Luntz to Bush et al talking about promoting the term "climate change" over "global warming" because focus groups find it less threatening & scary .
"Even Al gore and his small group of followers have admitted its getting cooler " is a pathetic lie
wildcrazygoats 1 week ago
@BelaFleckFan "so I will not reply to any more of your silly irrational comments. " typical denier - make ridiculous unsubstantiated comments, regurgitate the standard lies, then run away when challenged. You have learnt well from the creationists who use the same arguments & tactics - its called"pigeon chess"
wildcrazygoats 1 week ago
@BelaFleckFan
How disappointing!
Two denialist talking points in the same post?
I've seen more, buddy, but it ain't like you folks could ever be accused of over achieving.
"Construction of a Composite Total Solar Irradiance (TSI) Time Series from 1978 to present" from PMOD makes it very clear that "Sun spot activity" was DEFINITELY not responsible for " Past Decade Warmest on Record According to Scientists in 48 Countries" (NOAA)
Back it up and try it again, Hoss.
YourKidsArentSpecial 1 week ago
@BelaFleckFan "humans exhaling " - humans exhaling make absolutely no difference to atmospheric CO2 levels - you are just regurgitating another bullshit denier claim. The reason is very basic science.....see if you can work out why. (thats a big word isnt it : S-C-I-E-N-C-E )
wildcrazygoats 1 week ago
@BelaFleckFan This is just... not.... true! Google "global warming evidence" and click on the FIRST LINK. This is NASA, a non-partisan, unbiased organization, and they have a TON of evidence conclusively showing that climate change is real, and that it is man-made. What has happened is that YOU are not getting your science information from actual scientists, but biased news organizations that spread lies (such as your report that thousands of scientists disagree with warming.)
cyxgun 1 week ago
@cyxgun When did NASA become "a non-partisan, unbiased organization"?
And to claim that scientists who don't work for NASA are "News organisations that spread lies" is preposterous.
BelaFleckFan 1 week ago
@BelaFleckFan "And to claim that scientists who don't work for NASA are "News organisations that spread lies" is preposterous." It seems English may not be your first language - comprehension is obviously not your strong point
wildcrazygoats 1 week ago
@cyxgun "but biased news organizations that spread lies (such as your report that thousands of scientists disagree with warming.)" The denier industry looks to FoxNews as a scientific institution
wildcrazygoats 1 week ago
@BelaFleckFan blah blah blah......AL GORE.......blah blah blah.....A GORE. Give you hatred of a Gore a rest - it is of no relevance to climate science.
wildcrazygoats 1 week ago
@wildcrazygoats I never said I hated Mr Al Gore because I do not hate him, what I said was I trust science over the word of a politician, especially a politician who claims as Mr Gore did that he "created the Internet
Mr John Coleman is asking for a debate on the subject of "Global Warming" 4 years later and Al Gore and his scientists are still refusing to discuss this subject with the scientific community.... and then we have you trying to censor people like me with your lies.
BelaFleckFan 1 week ago
@BelaFleckFan " Al Gore and his scientists" WTF is that supposed to mean "his scientists" . Forget about GORE you idiot - he is totally irrelevant to climate science ....... you know that global socialist conspiracy supported by NASA , the Pentagon, the worlds scientific institutions, governments of all political flavours
wildcrazygoats 1 week ago
@BelaFleckFan "10 years ago they called it "Global Warming"" more denier bullshit. over 10 years ago Republican adviser Frank Luntz wrote "The Environment : A cleaner, Healthier, Safer America" for George Bush - it encouraged the Bush administration to use only the term "climate change" because in GOP focus groups it sounded less threatening & more uncertain than "global warming" (along with other deceptions) . The memo is available on the internet - you only have your ignorance to lose
wildcrazygoats 1 week ago
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From: Phil Jones
To: “Michael E. Mann”
Subject: HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL
Date: Thu Jul 8 16:30:16 2004
“I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow – even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is !
Cheers
Phil”
ChristopherMonckton5 1 week ago
@PrairieDogged
"CFCs are 4 times heavier than air"
I think you are on to something! Shall we bring back CFCs?
23peacefrog 1 week ago
cont... after all, despite the fact that the IPCC predicted that there was going to be a one degree rise of temperature by 2010, it actually got cooler.
laurelbush 1 week ago
Virtually 100% of climate scientists say the atmosphere is heating up and mankind is playing a role.
Who is more credible? I would go with climate scientists on this topic.
Nightversionn 1 week ago
@Nightversionn oh dear i hope the skeptical scientists are right, after all only one person has to be right, the others act like sheep of there is a meal to be had out of it.
laurelbush 1 week ago
@laureloilcompanybush, that's really rich, accusing scientists of on the one hand being sheep, on the other, dishonest, frauds, doing it for a meal (that is obviously YOU), it's really rich of you accusing scientists of lying all the while hiding your ties to Big Oil
Nightversionn 1 week ago
@Nightversionn where exactly do you get your evidence? Every bit of global warming is fraud, Co2 is too heavy to rise up to the atmosphere and cause warming of the earth, and the ozone layer keeps heat in, if there was a hole in it why would it be hotter?
45678ret 1 week ago
@45678ret
CFC's are 4x heavier than air too ~ eco-loons turn physics on its head to grab your cash.
PrairleDogged 1 week ago
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@45678ret
"Co2 is too heavy to rise up to the atmosphere..."
Wow! So that means that air travel must also be some huge hoax.. cuz everyone know that planes are MUCH heavier than air!
There's a reason that conservatives don't make good scientists, Hoss.
You're just too psychologically and emotionally unevolved.
YourKidsArentSpecial 1 week ago
@YourKidsArentSpecial what are you talking about? chemistry and flight are two totally different things, wait am why am I arguing with an obvious troll?
45678ret 1 week ago
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@45678ret
So "Co2 is too heavy to rise up to the atmosphere" but airplanes AREN'T because "chemisty and flight are two totally different things."
Say that out loud, buddy, and see how it sounds.
I'm afraid I can't remove the veil of conservative lunacy which assures that you remain hopelessly benighted, friend.
I can, however, contextualize the stupidity and antipathy of your assertion that the physics behind AGW is suspect, simply because it offends your authoritarian sensibilities.
YourKidsArentSpecial 1 week ago
@YourKidsArentSpecial yeah it does make sense, because airplanes use aerodynamics to fly and co2 molecules by themselves can't float to the ozone layer, so please research topics first before attacking me, and another thing is that you won't win an argument if you call me stupid and conservative over and over again friend.
45678ret 1 week ago
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@45678ret
"co2 molecules by themselves can't float"
Absolutely wrong, friend.
If you "think" that the atmosphere is "layered" with the heaviest gases at the bottom, then you are completely ignorant of every facet of the science you're denying, from the jet stream to good old fashioned physics.
You want to say something stupid in a public forum, buddy?
Then expect to be taken to task for it.
YourKidsArentSpecial 1 week ago
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@45678ret
By the way, friend... The AIP has a great primer on AGW but it sounds like you need to start with some real basics.
Try googling "CO2 distribution in atmosphere."
Good luck.
YourKidsArentSpecial 1 week ago
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@45678ret
"co2 molecules by themselves can't float to the ozone layer"
I've heard a lot of denier pablum, buddy, but this might be the most idiotic.
Here's a short list of things "heavier than air" that you'll find in the atmosphere: dust, soot, water vapor and even the odd bird feather.
We're gonna walk you through this, friend, and either you'll see the fallacy of your position, or your cognitive dissonance will have you in tears.
YourKidsArentSpecial 1 week ago
@YourKidsArentSpecial i went to check out your website and unfortunately instead of finding facts for both sides if found another biased site, it also seems that you are very passionate about this subject, and by passionate i mean you attack anyone who has different opinions of you and spam these videos, so if you find a non biased site contact me and then we'll talk
45678ret 1 week ago
@45678ret
"another biased site"
Just so we have this straight, you "think" that the AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF PHYSICS is a "biased site."
Sorry, buddy.
It just doesn't get more objective than that.
Again. If you want to "think" that the earth is flat, that's fine. But when you come on a public forum trying to convince people that your anti-science fantasies are fact, then expect to be taken to task for it.
YourKidsArentSpecial 1 week ago
@YourKidsArentSpecial that was not the american institute of physics you sent to was not the american institute of physics, and where are you coming off insulting me? All i have been trying to do is have a debate but then you who goes around all day attacking people on global warming videos and making crap up? Yes, I guess I'M the idiot in this instead of the one presenting false claims and calling the other a conservative idiot.
45678ret 1 week ago
@45678ret
"that was not the american institute of physics you sent"
Really?
Let's have a look at EXACTLY what I "sent you":
"The AIP has a great primer on AGW"
The "AIP" is INDEED the American Institute of Physics.
And yes, if you contend that "Co2 is too heavy to rise up into the atmosphere," a claim that is DEMONSTRABLY false, then you ARE "the idiot."
The other day you enjoined me to "please research topics."
Now it's your turn, friend. Unless you want to keep looking stupid.
YourKidsArentSpecial 1 week ago
@YourKidsArentSpecial " "Co2 is too heavy to rise up into the atmosphere," This claim is regularly bounced around the deniers echo chamber. I wonder how they account for CFCs being found in the stratosphere , as these are only of man made origin and far higher MW than CO2.
wildcrazygoats 1 week ago
@wildcrazygoats
"I wonder how they account for CFCs"
You're giving them WAY too much credit. Deniers don't think that far ahead. And you can show them that their conclusion violates physical laws until your blue in the face.
They not only won't believe you, they'll usually get angry.
"Belief perseverance" is an interesting, albeit pathological, phenomenon.
YourKidsArentSpecial 1 week ago
@YourKidsArentSpecial You are right.....I had argument with one who maintained CO2 does not absorb heat. I suggested they look up the widely available IR absorbance spectrum and compare with spectra of N2, O2 & Ar. Of course this was dismissed as it was biased science. So I guess IR spectra are only valid until they scan CO2 - then it becomes part of a global socialist conspiracy
wildcrazygoats 1 week ago
@wildcrazygoats
Yes and I started arguing with one called "brospec" it turned out to be a sock account for 'wildcrazygoats' that was a turd up for the books ~ LOL
Whatcha reckon to that???
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Nowt as queer as folks as they say in the deep south *o))
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@DoggyStyle @shitfire @Nighttversionn @mellowguy1111 @MockNobes @MarkGubbish @MMS747 @M0N1ER
Oh, dear, Sybil.
Someone who's been caught red handed posting under ALL of the above is accusing others?
I guess it makes sense that someone who frequently throws hen parties for herself and her SEVEN other personalities would be all broken up over the fate of a "red kite."
(Uh oh.
Made you look stupid again, shitfire.)
YourKidsArentSpecial 1 week ago
@wildcrazygoats
'I suggested they look up the widely available IR absorbance spectrum' or they can watch this, positive proof !
watch?v=r0tJEkldmf4
blackadderthe4 1 week ago
@wildcrazygoats Clara, did you pick this name out as a fond memory for your Brokeback Mountain adventures? I knew you liked the sheep & cows but I see you also liked to play nasty with goats. :-0
MarkGubbish 1 week ago
@45678ret How's Fox News for an unbiased media outlet?
Pulpgimp 1 week ago
@Pulpgimp unfortunately all news is very biased, it's just your choice of what you watch to get around the bias and find the truth
45678ret 1 week ago
@45678ret
Hey, buddy!
Did you read that AGW primer from the AIP yet?
In case you couldn't find it, the article is titled "The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect" and can be found at AIP(dot)org
YourKidsArentSpecial 1 week ago
@YourKidsArentSpecial alright i'll check it out
45678ret 1 week ago
@45678ret
By the way, the psychological phenomenon you are presenting is called "confirmation bias."
Check it out, then come back and tell me that PHYSICISTS are "biased" cuz they don't support your idiotic claims.
Good luck!
YourKidsArentSpecial 1 week ago
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ShockofClara 1 week ago
"What happened to all that melting that was supposed to be going on in the Arctic? Ya gotta laugh! To explain why the Montreal ban on CFC's is not stopping ozone depeletion, they let global cooling in the door"
GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 38, L24814, 5 PP., 2011
B.-M. Sinnhuber et al.
"The Arctic stratospheric winter of 2010/2011 was one of the coldest on record with a large loss of stratospheric ozone."
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But like all of the Extra Snow and Ice it will be due to warming you see ;o)
PrairleDogged 1 week ago
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@PrairleDogged 1) The extent of Arctic sea ice in 2011 was the second lowest on record, and its volume was the lowest. WMO 2012
2) 6 to 30 miles up = stratospheric ozone, as you get higher into the atmosphere, it generally gets colder 3) Arctic sea ice is in contact with the troposphere, not the stratosphere. 4)The 13 warmest years have all occurred in the 15 years since 1997
checkyoursources 1 week ago
Global temperatures in 2011 are currently the tenth highest on record though over the last 5000 years quite normal with a very benign climate at the moment compared to the last 1000 years.
laurelbush 1 week ago
Global temperatures in 2011 are currently the tenth highest on record and are higher than any previous year with a La Niña event, which has a relative cooling influence. The 13 warmest years have all occurred in the 15 years since 1997. The extent of Arctic sea ice in 2011 was the second lowest on record, and its volume was the lowest. WMO 2012
checkyoursources 1 week ago
@checkyoursources
Tenth highest BS
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Must be due to the soot in the atmosphere ;O) or is this weeks "settled science" view that soot is a cooling agent? it is so hard to keep up on the latest doublespeak coming out of the crimatology stinktank ~ do they use Runes or Chicken Bones?
PrairleDogged 1 week ago
@PrairLeDogged All fossil fuel impacts are bad for the environment, methane and soot need to be dealt with too, not just co2. Wow, you are makin' progress on learning about fossil fuels and how they are destroying our future. Wow.
Makin' progress!
Nightversionn 1 week ago
@Nightversion+n
Why did the real Nightversion ( one 'n' ) have to clse his account BULLY !!!!
Stop BULLYING ME I have the right to comment here and your persecution will not stop me !!!
Also you spamming off my comments will just lead to me leaving more ~ Duh !!!
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Now leave me be go Harass someone else !!!!!
PrairleDogged 1 week ago
@PrairleDogged
***** Close
PrairleDogged 1 week ago
@PrairLeDogged, whatever troll. Have you run out of desperate routines for trolling? Try some new material
Nightversionn 1 week ago
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ronpaul2012hope 1 week ago
30000 scientists..., were is my hydrogen generator! A cup of water and I have electricity for a week. Back to the drawing board, you lizard pricks, the cup of water is waiting!
Jai666666666 1 week ago
@Jai666666666 there are not 30,000 scientists, it's a fake denier stunt. You cannot sue someone for supporting a scientific theory, by the way
Nightversionn 1 week ago
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GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 39, L01501, 5 PP., 2012
Insignificant change in Antarctic snowmelt volume since 1979
Key Points
By P. Kuipers Munneke et al.
PrairleDogged 1 week ago
@LordMonckton78
Re: updating carbon doom and gloom prophecies
The prophecies are being updated all the time given the complexity of climate. It is still getting warmer though. Now why is that?
23peacefrog 2 weeks ago
@23peacefrog Re: Yes the carbon modeling prophets have to update their doom & gloom prophecies all the time, thank you for pointing that out. Do you know Yortuk Massa?
LordMonckton78 1 week ago
@LordMonckton78 I love how you call everyone the same name to try to deflect that all your denier accounts are the same person.
The fact remains, there isn't anything "gloom" about it, "alarmism" is just another one of your well-funded oil industry lies.
Fact of the matter is, climate change is already here, duh?
Nightversionn 1 week ago
@Nightversionn I'm glad you like it my dear. The Climate scientists are not really scientists, they are carbon prophets spouting gloom & doom prophecies for their carbon tax mafia backers. Have a nice evening Clara, how's Scotland?
LordMonckton78 1 week ago
consensus regarding GW/ Climate change or whatever you want to call it? By the looks of it, far from it xD
1lluminado 2 weeks ago
...you can characterise this issue as being all about money but
We are talking about the whole world means of producing energy so naturally huge sums of money are going to be involved in this. And where you have much £s you have corruption, vested interests and good old
fashioned stealing. This in no way is a reason to stick to the current suicidal path
23peacefrog 2 weeks ago
@LordMonckton78
Who the f**k IS this Clara? 1 account is enough for me thanks
Re the "carbon wall street mafia"
Don't blame me for the people who make the decisions in this world. The argument may be finally being won on GW this doesn't mean it's not the same corporate whores pulling the strings!! What? GW warming has been excepted so the greens have taken over all governments? Er, no
23peacefrog 2 weeks ago
@23peacefrog Toady, looks like the climate wizards are going to have to make some changes to their magic in their crystal balls, and update their carbon doom & glomm prophecies. LOL
LordMonckton78 2 weeks ago
cont.....
Later today, January 13th, “More or Less” returns to the bet, which I am pleased to say I won, though I note that this bet, or its conclusion, is not yet mentioned on Annan’s Wikipedia entry despite his other climate bet being discussed.
laurelbush 2 weeks ago
cont........ It was made between climatologist James Annan and myself. His work involves analysing climatic data and validating climate models. He accepted enthusiastically as he has a perchant for taking on 'sceptics.' The presenter said that if the global temperature didn’t go up in the next few years, “there would be some explaining to do.”
laurelbush 2 weeks ago
winning a climate bet by Dr. David Whitehouse,
extract.
To my surprise interest in my article was worldwide, and eventually the BBC’s radio programme “More or Less” got in touch. The programme is about numbers and statistics and they set up a series of interviews. You can hear the programme here.
Almost at the last minute the programme-makers came up with the idea of a bet. It was for £100 that, using the HadCrut3 data set, there would be no new record set by 2011.
laurelbush 2 weeks ago
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A paper published today in Geophysical Research Letters finds no significant change in Antarctic snowmelt over the entire 31 year period of satellite observations 1979-2010.
laurelbush 2 weeks ago
poor old co2 , getting left out in the cold,
Der Spiegel reports today that scientists have identified soot as one of the major global warmers out there.
laurelbush 2 weeks ago
@laurelbush
This post is useless without a link to the info!
blackadderthe4 2 weeks ago
Arctic.
Not only is ice extent the highest in seven years, but the ice is getting thicker and is positioned exactly where alarmists don’t want it to be. The thick ice has shifted towards the west into the Chukchi Sea, where it will slow summer melt.
Combine that with sea surface temperatures in the Bering Sea which are far below normal, and our chicken little friends are looking at a very bad summer.
laurelbush 2 weeks ago
much prefer NSIDC 2011.
laurelbush 2 weeks ago
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Each decade since the 1970's has been warmer than the last. We also note that if we compare 1971-2001 (1.78°C/century) with 1971-2005 (1.9°C/century) (hadley data)we find that the rate of warming is accelerating. Since the 1970's on average it has warmed 0.2 C per decade. Next.
checkyoursources 2 weeks ago
from the NSIDC website-
Icelights: Your Burning Questions About Ice & Climate
“Overall, Antarctic sea ice has grown slightly over the past thirty years.”
“In Southern Hemisphere winter months, ice extent has increased by around one percent per decade.”
“In the summer, ice has increased by two to three percent per decade.”
laurelbush 2 weeks ago
@laurelbush Yet again someone who hasn't identified the difference between antarctic SEA ice which melts and reforms every year and the rapidly decreasing LAND ice in antarctica.1) Which do you think is more significant, decreasing land ice which goes into the sea and is or increasing sea ice? 2) Estimates of recent changes in Antarctic land ice range from losing 100 Gt/year to over 300 Gt/year.(Chen et al. 2006, Wingham et al. 2006, Rignot et al. 2008b, Cazenave et al. 2009 and Velicogna 2009)
checkyoursources 2 weeks ago
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@checkyoursources Yet again someone who hasn't identified the difference between antarctic SEA ice.....
you forgot to add on the % increase every decade on your comment.
laurelbush 2 weeks ago
@checkyoursources and to their credit not one word of AGW in their NSIDC article .
laurelbush 2 weeks ago
@checkyoursources (Chen et al. 2006, Wingham et al. 2006
that's a bit of an old article isn't it.
laurelbush 2 weeks ago
cont..... The US has no useful icebreakers. Money for such has been requested for years, but deleted from the Federal budget because new icebreakers would send the wrong message relative to the ‘Global Warming’ dogma.
laurelbush 2 weeks ago
Alaska Icebreaker Saga
“Our only small icebreaker is now basically stuck trying to convey a Russian oil tanker to Nome, Alaska.”
laurelbush 2 weeks ago
cont..... lots of solar power companies gone to the wall.
the green industry creates jobs!!
laurelbush 2 weeks ago