went to a New Years Eve party in a Rosemont hotel,think it was '67, the year i got out of the Marine Corps. Buckinghams, Cryan Shamees, & the Colony Six were there.. had a great time, didn't care about the bands at that time, i was trying to get laid....hehehehehehe
I remember having this album back then. They had some good music. I remember one of the guys in the band had only one hand. Wore a hook on the other arm. I believe they called him JC Hook.
anyone in Chicago, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin LOVED these guys. They had a huge following It was always a good time with them. WLS really gave them airplay too. They were a band you had to see and be with to get the full appreciation. they were a party unto themselves. The magic somehow got lost on the recordings for me. Just being there with them live was a high, they loved their fans as much as the fans loved them.
Not only did this song not get the national attention it deserved, but if you listen to the Shames albums, the band definitely deserved better. I think Columbia decided to put all of their money and promotion behind Guercio and the Buckinghams, and the Shames never got the exposure they deserved.
@rktbusinc --- I think you hit it on the nail. Cryan Shames were shafted by Columbia and could have went alot further if they hadn't put their marketing into the Buckinghams.
Nice hearing them again. I knew them at LTJC when they were the Travelers, Grape, Toad, Stonehenge. 3rd floor hall mixers, lounge, those were the days (German with Herr Meyer, huh, Gerry!). Always did love the Chicago sound for those too brief years.
As an old '69 highschool grad, I used to love to see these guys around the Chicago area. They sounded as good as any of the bands that were out there, and my old copy of Scratch in the Sky is still a prized possesion. Thanks for posting.
J.C. Hooke (original member of the Cryan' Shames) is on Facebook under his real name. Jim Pilster. He loves getting e-mail about the Shames. By the way, they are still playing the Chicago area often. J.C. is the only original member but Tom Doody (Toad) comes in from California for some shows.
This was the Searchers song, and I love their version, However, the energy, the type of guitars used and the playing, the harmonies, the arrangement, etc. was a lot better in the Cryan' Shames version. And I am from Chicago, but am not being partial.
They were big in the Midwest in the early 60's but the markets were not considered major. Madison, Green Bay, Rockford. They finally hit it big around 65.
Awsome song! How can I forget this diamond,I was a young teenager listening to these new magical sounds in the mid-60's.The British Invasion was at its peak, and Psychedelic sounds were coming over the air waves, What a magical time!
@MyJellyJunglein1967 - Right you are - I have shared the films with my children so they can get the feel of those days, which were "magical" indeed. Best Wishes to you.
The Shames were so huge in the Chicago area; I'd assumed they were national stars. Then in '67 they competed on some weird TV talent show. Seemed like a bad move.
@weightfeather1 There is an added pivot chord modulation at 1:36 listen to suzy cincinatti by the beachy boys for the same/ one of the videos has nude girls see also the queen of sheba by respigi for a nude girl
Good morning, do you like sixties? Listen and pod cast my program " great sound of 60' s " on the site plumfm. Greeting and made blooper in rock and roll. Salut, vous aimez les sixties ? Ecoutez et podcatez mon émission "le super son des sixties" sur plum fm. Salut et faites gaffe au rock'n roll
"Sugar and Spice" was the Cryan Shames' first of 7 Billboard charted singles -- debuting 7-23-66 and climbing to a shocking only #49 nationally over a nine-week run. (Despite that, I programmed it into the Reader's Digest "Dedicated To The One I Love" 4 CD box set.) "I Wanna Meet You" charted next in November 1966 -- incredbily peaking at only #85 over a four week run. And those were the group's two biggest national hits! Why both didn't reach #1 nationally astounds me. Both are superb!
I saw them at WARM- day near Wilkes Barre PA in 1966 with my new girlfriend. Great time, great band and great ol' gal 44 years later. I nearly wore out those three albums. One of the greatest bands that few people ever heard of. It was like the secret that a few of us shared over the years. Peace
aww this is so cute. i wish it was still back then . i love you guys so much. toad , jim pilster, dennis ,and jim fairs. you will never know the effect you had on me. i later played drums in off broadway. i love you guys madley. there has never been a greater band to come out of chicago. best , kh
Just heard this on XM radio on the way home. Had to check for it here. Glad I did. A real lite , lively & enjoyable tune. You Tube pulled through again !!!!!
This is a great version!! I've only heard the Searchers, until just now i read that the Cryan Shames did it, and now I've heard it! I like the subtle differences in the melody, the extra harmony, the key change, the echo/reverb they use....I like it!!!
Watching these slides while hearing "Sugar & Spice" is like an emotional vacation from all the incredibly ugly pessimistic "music" from so many (not all, thank goodness) of today's pop stars. I have two impressionable teenage children and positive, pleasant life affirming songs like this are the ones I encourage them to listen to. Fortunately, they love 60's & 70's bands. One just went with her dad to see Loggins & Messina. THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT TUNES, Cryan' Shames. Peace & Love Always.
Saw them in concert in 1968. They put on a great show. There were just so many great bands and sounds in the 60's that some groups are forgotten. I will never forget them. Thanks Fest for this posting.
@newhotman1001 ; saw them at Lane Tech High school (my school) in 68', I think, at the Auditorium there. Great show; they were really good players, owing to all of their club experience.
went to a New Years Eve party in a Rosemont hotel,think it was '67, the year i got out of the Marine Corps. Buckinghams, Cryan Shamees, & the Colony Six were there.. had a great time, didn't care about the bands at that time, i was trying to get laid....hehehehehehe
soxbearshwks 2 weeks ago
Both Recordings of this are Great
Thank you
Searchers & Cryan Shames
TL250Rider 1 month ago
I remember having this album back then. They had some good music. I remember one of the guys in the band had only one hand. Wore a hook on the other arm. I believe they called him JC Hook.
grandadjim 2 months ago
anyone in Chicago, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin LOVED these guys. They had a huge following It was always a good time with them. WLS really gave them airplay too. They were a band you had to see and be with to get the full appreciation. they were a party unto themselves. The magic somehow got lost on the recordings for me. Just being there with them live was a high, they loved their fans as much as the fans loved them.
abbysnoni 3 months ago
Great memories, from Chicago
vcx9dfne 3 months ago
Another Chicago Classic....These guys were great! Thanks!
MACJO63 4 months ago
Not only did this song not get the national attention it deserved, but if you listen to the Shames albums, the band definitely deserved better. I think Columbia decided to put all of their money and promotion behind Guercio and the Buckinghams, and the Shames never got the exposure they deserved.
rktbusinc 5 months ago
@rktbusinc I have the album. It is worth looking for to get in your own collection either as original or a sundazed reprint
moxie96 5 months ago
@rktbusinc --- I think you hit it on the nail. Cryan Shames were shafted by Columbia and could have went alot further if they hadn't put their marketing into the Buckinghams.
OffTheCharts365 3 months ago
DENNY CONROY ON DRUMS, MY BRO'S GOOD FRIEND AND OUR NEIGHBOR
SHEILAHHOLIDAY 5 months ago
"Never knew a girl so lovely, sweet enough to want to eat."
Ganoosh123 6 months ago
Some things don"t change
From someplace in the space/place
omtserv01 7 months ago
Nice hearing them again. I knew them at LTJC when they were the Travelers, Grape, Toad, Stonehenge. 3rd floor hall mixers, lounge, those were the days (German with Herr Meyer, huh, Gerry!). Always did love the Chicago sound for those too brief years.
froggietwanger 7 months ago
As an old '69 highschool grad, I used to love to see these guys around the Chicago area. They sounded as good as any of the bands that were out there, and my old copy of Scratch in the Sky is still a prized possesion. Thanks for posting.
GR9146 7 months ago
J.C. Hooke (original member of the Cryan' Shames) is on Facebook under his real name. Jim Pilster. He loves getting e-mail about the Shames. By the way, they are still playing the Chicago area often. J.C. is the only original member but Tom Doody (Toad) comes in from California for some shows.
airshotsphotoco 8 months ago
This was the Searchers song, and I love their version, However, the energy, the type of guitars used and the playing, the harmonies, the arrangement, etc. was a lot better in the Cryan' Shames version. And I am from Chicago, but am not being partial.
jlbaker2000 8 months ago
They were big in the Midwest in the early 60's but the markets were not considered major. Madison, Green Bay, Rockford. They finally hit it big around 65.
MEDIADWG 9 months ago
Great memories. I graduated Naperville HS in 1968, and the 'Shames' were one of the primo groups.
psKESEY56 10 months ago
Brings back memories of New York City 1965
raaron44 11 months ago
VERY GOOD!
glasscitadel12 11 months ago 2
Awsome song! How can I forget this diamond,I was a young teenager listening to these new magical sounds in the mid-60's.The British Invasion was at its peak, and Psychedelic sounds were coming over the air waves, What a magical time!
MyJellyJunglein1967 11 months ago
@MyJellyJunglein1967 - Right you are - I have shared the films with my children so they can get the feel of those days, which were "magical" indeed. Best Wishes to you.
mjcamck71 10 months ago
@mjcamck71 The song did not get all the proper air-time it deserved on the West Coast,but then again,every song I heard in 1966 was a number 1 hit
MyJellyJunglein1967 9 months ago
The Cryin' Shames sound better and better every passing year. I hope the band knows how much we still enjoy their music.
003Damian 1 year ago
The Shames were so huge in the Chicago area; I'd assumed they were national stars. Then in '67 they competed on some weird TV talent show. Seemed like a bad move.
lazur1 1 year ago
Saw the Cryan' Shames perform this summer in northern Illinois. What a nice group of guys and they're still having so much FUN....
mshockey73 1 year ago
Love this track - even better than The Searchers' version. Not much in it though !
That's coming from a Searchers fan of long standing.
TOBERT001 1 year ago
@weightfeather1 There is an added pivot chord modulation at 1:36 listen to suzy cincinatti by the beachy boys for the same/ one of the videos has nude girls see also the queen of sheba by respigi for a nude girl
spacepatrolman 1 year ago
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supersondessixties 1 year ago
I agree with you papamac This is, by far,
the best version of the song.
Thanks for posting!
maddadram1 1 year ago
This is just plain gorgeous.
johnnypoker46 1 year ago
@johnnypoker46 YOU GOT THAT JOHNNY P
RTEEMMONS 1 year ago
"Sugar and Spice" was the Cryan Shames' first of 7 Billboard charted singles -- debuting 7-23-66 and climbing to a shocking only #49 nationally over a nine-week run. (Despite that, I programmed it into the Reader's Digest "Dedicated To The One I Love" 4 CD box set.) "I Wanna Meet You" charted next in November 1966 -- incredbily peaking at only #85 over a four week run. And those were the group's two biggest national hits! Why both didn't reach #1 nationally astounds me. Both are superb!
horarwgt 1 year ago
i saw the shames at my church rec area in 1967 near california and foster
56nickjames 1 year ago
I LIKE IT.
emilyxq 1 year ago
I lIKE it
emilyxq 1 year ago
The BEST version of this song...hands down!
papamac630 1 year ago
They were from my old neighborhood. Their big hit was "I Wanna Meet You", but this was always my fav by them..1966 4ever!
MACJO63 1 year ago
The pride of Hinsdale.
savannahtom 1 year ago
Summer 1966- great song from a great summer!!
aershamus 1 year ago
I saw them at WARM- day near Wilkes Barre PA in 1966 with my new girlfriend. Great time, great band and great ol' gal 44 years later. I nearly wore out those three albums. One of the greatest bands that few people ever heard of. It was like the secret that a few of us shared over the years. Peace
454something 1 year ago 2
still listen to them everyday since 1966
ngml320 1 year ago
Impressive harmonies on top of everything else. Drums especially appealing. THANKS FOR POSTING. Thanks Cryan' Shames!
mjcamck71 1 year ago
Thanks for this posting! This is my favorite version of this song.
sclm046 1 year ago
the song sugar and spice, in todays world might inflame many women, but, I love it!
jadegreenkaty 1 year ago
aww this is so cute. i wish it was still back then . i love you guys so much. toad , jim pilster, dennis ,and jim fairs. you will never know the effect you had on me. i later played drums in off broadway. i love you guys madley. there has never been a greater band to come out of chicago. best , kh
harck1 1 year ago
My buddy had the album, we played it alot, really dug it!
wingsandslicks 1 year ago
Just heard this on XM radio on the way home. Had to check for it here. Glad I did. A real lite , lively & enjoyable tune. You Tube pulled through again !!!!!
rabidwatchdog59 1 year ago
This version was recorded at june - 1966,after of the version of The Searchers ( 1963).
Regards.
festivae 1 year ago
@festivae yes there was an album the best of 66 with aretha ,the buckinghams ,the cryan shames, the byrds...
spacepatrolman 1 year ago
@festivae Got to be the 60's. Just heard it on XM and brought back so many memories
thegmantube 10 months ago
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@festivae Got to be the 60's. Just heard it on XM and brought back so many memories
thegmantube 10 months ago
This is a great version!! I've only heard the Searchers, until just now i read that the Cryan Shames did it, and now I've heard it! I like the subtle differences in the melody, the extra harmony, the key change, the echo/reverb they use....I like it!!!
nicodagger 2 years ago 2
A nugget.
NcicHit 2 years ago 2
Watching these slides while hearing "Sugar & Spice" is like an emotional vacation from all the incredibly ugly pessimistic "music" from so many (not all, thank goodness) of today's pop stars. I have two impressionable teenage children and positive, pleasant life affirming songs like this are the ones I encourage them to listen to. Fortunately, they love 60's & 70's bands. One just went with her dad to see Loggins & Messina. THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT TUNES, Cryan' Shames. Peace & Love Always.
mjcamck71 2 years ago
Saw them in concert in 1968. They put on a great show. There were just so many great bands and sounds in the 60's that some groups are forgotten. I will never forget them. Thanks Fest for this posting.
newhotman1001 2 years ago
@newhotman1001 ; saw them at Lane Tech High school (my school) in 68', I think, at the Auditorium there. Great show; they were really good players, owing to all of their club experience.
heywally 1 year ago
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newhotman1001 2 years ago
Great to have the studio version in here for the third time nice pictures .
spacepatrolman 2 years ago