Omg... i love you loreena mc'kennit, you saved my soul, thanks for create wonderfull music; Gracias Loreena Mc'kennit por crear musica tan hermosa, me calma los nervios, Me hace pensar que todos debemos amarnos por igual T_T No te mueras nunca loreena :'(
This song so speaks to a very few times in my life where the spirit of the Lord made His way into my heart and just about broke it, with His overwhelming love. Mankind needs that. And we need to find it soon.
This song is one of my favourite. Really moving, if you think about it like a tale of a lady and her lover but the fact it's a prayer in disguise really make me feel I am loosing something being agnostic. It took the advice of a friend to notice it: "Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took
their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom". This is just beyond poetry...
I love her music since I was 15years old. However after her concern I went to 2years ago I can only say: her voice even that sounds amazing on cd, sounds even better in real.
I love her music since I was 15years old. However after her concern I went to 2years ago I can only say: her voice even that sounds amazing on cd, sounds even better in real.
I found this song back in the 90's. I bought the CD and everyone I made listen thought they would hate it. Then they heard it. And that was it. I have had much sadness in my life. This songs make me believe in God again. Since it is based on a letter of a saint and his bod with God.
que voz angelical!!!!!!!!!!!!INCREIBLE !!!!!Te transporta a otro mundo ,donde brilla el sol tibio de primavera,el aire huele a hierba recien cortada,campos de lavanda inundan mi alma,una paz inconmensurable me envuelve,como una manta en una noche fresca,donde los pensamientos vuelan,dejando el corazon en eterna armonia...............
@BMoses16 Same here mate!!! she's the mother I'd like to have and never had!!, but i guess God didn't gave her children and just her dogs cause she's too good for human kind!! I adore this woman!!! it's my dream to meet her and thank her for everything she has done for me whithout even know me. Loreena is an angel!!
@mossface78562 Don't think you've seen enough pictures of her. Loreena McKennit makes amazing music, but she isn't rated very high on the looks scale ;)
It is not liek it really matter though. In music what should matter is vocal skills and not look unfortunately pop music tires to prove the diffferent
@DragonofShu Yeah, I definitely agree. Actually, in far too many areas of life we tend to focus on physical beauty when it doesn't really matter. God does not look on the outside, so why should we?
This song has words in it which come from the poems and writings of St John of The Cross. Dark night of the soul is a metaphor used to describe a phase in a person's spiritual life, marked by a sense of loneliness and desolation. His poem narrates the journey of the soul from its bodily home to its union with God. The journey occurs during the night, which represents the hardships and difficulties the soul meets in detachment from the world and reaching the light of God
If you have read the comments on the album, this song is a song that could be written as if speaking of a lover, or of her enduring love of her God...
to those all who say she's ugly. Why must you people be so narrow minded. Who cares what she looks like, her voice is amazing. If you cant listen to her music because you think she is ugly then you clearly dont deserve to listen to her at all. Oh and FUCK YOU!!!!!! haters are not appreciated.
11 people will never leave the dark night of their souls. How can anyone "dislike" such a beautiful song?
We've all met the dark night of our souls at some point or another, but some people choose not only to live in it but to drag the world into it as well.
As Christians, we are Saved. Jesus' Death has saved us all. We are the only religion that says we all saved. Others try to be saved by ay means available, pilgrimages to Mecca and Medina etc and then HOPE that we will be pleasing to Allah, Mohammed, Krishna etc. As Christians we are, by Jesus' death on the CROSS, already Saved. Just accept Jesus into your hearts and thank and praise every day of your remaining years. We are SAVED.
@Terenceish Is mankind really that screwed that we need to be saved. What happened to just trying to save ourselves instead of depending on God to do it for us. He's busy enough as it is.
@RudgeBarnaby Loreena is extremelly friendly, I hope you meet her one day.. after a concert in Greece although she was tired and hurry she didnt deny for a warm hug and kiss, she got photos with fans and she was extremelly happy ! I remember she was a very simple person, we had a mini discuss.. when I had a photo with her accidentally the flash of the camera didnt light on, and I told her "sorry, sorrryyyyy let me take the photo again !" and she start laughing saying "of course, dont worry !!!"
@brwnboy187 Then, how does the dark night come? The dark night very often comes through human instruments. That is why it is so difficult to see the hand of God in His instruments. These events may be: 1. The feelings of fear, insecurities and strong negative enslavement that one cannot overcome 2. Suspicions 3. Misunderstandings 4. Great humiliation 5. The loss of one’s reputation or good name 6. Feelings of rejections 7. Family problems 8. Loss of job 9. Bankruptcy
@ignatiusofantioch2 -really interesting. I presumed though that the dark night, was a purely spiritual occurrence. That God hiimself withdraws (affectively) from the soul, such that the soul cannot feel the presence of God. Moreover, the things that you mentioned are all common occurrences. Isn't the dark night a spiritual occurrence that occcurs in well advanced souls, ie souls that have entered the 5th or 6th mansion? thanks for the info
Actually, the poem of St. John of the Cross, “Dark night of the Soul” talks about three (3) nights:
1. TWILIGHT (mortification by souls in mansions 1-5 with dark night of the senses).
2. MIDNIGHT ( faith which is the dark night of the soul in the 6th mansion as argued by St. John of the Cross earlier in this channel, which is the darkest of all nights).
Does this mean the contemplative will become very spiritual and live in the clouds and stop being human?
It does not mean that. Life in this world goes on and going to God is still through the world but it is now in God’s terms. In going to God on God’s terms the realization dawns that none of the means used, now matter how holy, is God. Nothing in all creation is God. God is No-Thing. Therefore, happiness and salvation cannot be found in any creature, law or movement.
John of the Cross thinks it is pitiful that people cannot really take off to freedom because of some little attachments (voluntary habitual faults or personality defects) that they cannot face and accept. What a pity it is when so much has already been given up and for such a little thing one is held bound and cannot soar off to freedom. Ambivalence in prayer life often means that one wants God but also wants himself. Life is faced on merely human terms, not God’s.
“Nothing, nothing, nothing, even to the stripping of your own skin” says John of the Cross. What does John mean when he said, “on the top of the mountain, nothing, nothing, nothing?” He meant that the inadequacy of all that is not God, must be faced every moment. John of the Cross’ way is a very direct route to God. It is death to normal ways of action. It is death to the Old Man. It involves suffering because all deaths are painful. Continue...
As the response to God in the active night of the senses grows, He will gradually lead the contemplative into the passive night. John of the Cross said: “We cannot purify ourselves from our seven capital sins and its roots that go deeply in our subconscious, unless God leads us.”
@ignatiusofantioch2 As for the bible saying death is painful I could careless. The bible doesn't apply to me. But other then all that brushed aside. I hardly think that Loreena McKennits music has a role in the religious department. Except her winter albums of course
Tweethang1: “I hardly think that Loreena McKennits music has a role in the religious department…”
If you want to know the value and meaning of this song which is just a translation from the poem of St. John of the Cross's “Dark night of the soul,” then I would recommend you to read St. John’s works (“The Ascent of Mount Carmel” and the “The dark night of the soul”) to find the truth. God bless.
I am not familiar with Loreen’s religious affiliation.
You don’t need to be a Christian to compose and to sing this kind of song like in this channel. But I believe also that when Loreen translated John’s poem “Dark night of the soul, ” into a musical piece of art like we have in this channel, she had read St. John’s classical works on mysticism which explained thoroughly what a dark night of the soul is. And the works of St. John of the Cross had a great effect on her life.
There are arguments, passages, and figures from Scripture in proof that faith is a dark night for the soul.
1. “Faith is a certain and obscure habit of the soul” (St. Thomas Aquinas). It is an obscure habit because faith brings us to believe divinely revealed truths that transcend every natural light and infinitely exceed all human understanding in which consequently the excessive light of faith bestowed on a soul is darkness for it; a brighter light will eclipse and suppress a dimmer one.
The light of faith in its abundance suppresses and overwhelms that of the intellect. For intellect, by its own power, extends only to natural knowledge, though it has potency to be raised to a supernatural act whenever our Lord wishes.
2. “Knowledge arises in the soul from both the faculty and the object in hand” (Aristotle). The intellect knows only in natural way, that is, by means of the senses. If one is to know in this natural way, the phantasms and species of objects will have to be present either in themselves or in their likenesses; otherwise one will be incapable of knowing naturally.
For example, if those born blind were told about the nature of the colors white or yellow, they would understand absolutely nothing no matter how much instruction they received. Since they never saw these colors nor others like them, they would not have the means to form a judgment about them.
3. Faith informs us of matters we have never seen or known, either in themselves or in their likeness. In fact, nothing like them exists. The light of natural knowledge does not show us the object of faith, since this object is unproportioned to any of the senses. Yet we come to know it through hearing, by believing what faith teaches us, blinding our natural light and bringing it to submission.
St. Paul said to the Romans, “Thus faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes through the word of Christ” (Rom. 10:17). This means that faith is not a knowledge derived from the senses but an assent of the soul to what enters through hearing.
4. Faith far exceeds what these examples teach us. Not only does faith fail to produce knowledge and science but, as we said, faith deprives and blinds people of any knowledge by which they may judge it. Other knowledge is acquired by the light of the intellect, but not the knowledge of faith.
Faith nullifies the light of the intellect; and if this light is not darkened, the knowledge of faith is lost. Isaiah said, “If you do not believe, you will not understand” (Is. 7:9).
Faith, manifestly, is a dark night for souls, but in this way it gives them light. The more darkness it brings on them, the more light it sheds. For by blinding, it illuminates them according to those words of Isaiah that if you do not believe you will not understand; that is, you will not have light (Is. 7:9).
Faith was foreshadowed in that cloud that separated the children of Israel, just before their entry into the Red Sea, from the Egyptians (Ex. 14:19-20). Scripture says of the cloud: “The cloud was dark and illuminated the night”(Ex. 14:20).
5. The dark cloud in Ex. 14:20 illustrates how faith, a dark and obscure cloud to souls ( also a night in that it blinds and deprives them of their natural light), illumines and pours light into the darkness by means of its own darkness. This is fitting so that the disciple may be like the master.
A person in darkness does not receive adequate enlightenment except by another darkness, according to David’s teaching: “The day brims over and breathes speech to the day, and the night manifests knowledge to the night” (Ps. 19:3). Expressed more clearly, this means: The day, which is God (in bliss where it is day), communicates and pronounces the Word, his Son, to the angels and blessed souls, who are now day;
and this he does that they may have knowledge and enjoyment of him. And the night, which is the faith, present in the Church Militant where it is still night, manifests knowledge to the Church and, consequently, to every soul. This knowledge is night to the souls because they do not possess the clear beatific wisdom, and because faith blinds them as to their own natural light.
6. Our deduction is that since faith is a dark night, it illuminates the soul that is in darkness. We verify, then, David’s assertion on this matter: “Night will be my illumination in the midst of my delights” (Ps. 139:11). This amounts to saying: The night of faith will be my guide in the delights of my pure contemplation and union with God. By this passage David clearly informs us of the darkness demanded on this road if a soul is to receive light.
@ignatiusofantioch2 - lol, u speak gibberish. Not because what you say is gibberish, but because you are merely copying and pasting the intensive thought of another - and have not appropriated it into yourself.
Calling me the messenger gibberish is ad hominem. In fact, what is more important here is not the messenger per se but the message. I am here clarifying the phrase “dark night of the soul” for those calling it differently. This is just an intellectual discussion regarding the work of St. John of the Cross. The way I understand St. John’s argument regarding FAITH as dark night of the soul is spiritually breath-taking and an eye-opener and thus, it can never be gibberish.
@ignatiusofantioch2 - ok fine, u seem genuine enough. So tell me then, without quotes in your own words what the dark night is. How will one know one is in it.
I like best how St. John of the Cross described this “dark night” in the First stanza of his “The Spiritual Canticle” which gives us the idea of what it is really like, which says: “Where have you hidden beloved and you left me moaning after you have wounded me.”
Anyway, dark night is any problematic situation in your life, which seems to have no solution at all (this is also referred to as “limit situation”).
In this regard, what is necessary is a change of our attitudes to accept the situation on hand -- Do we allow the situation to break us apart or do you accept it as a moment of grace. That is up to us.
When the situations and our reactions to them no longer overwhelm us, we become free. Then, we can face the dark night without acting as slaves to internal or external pressures because we can let go of trying to control everything.
In this way, we can address the situation as God wills and not as we will.
Contemplative prayer is the way out of dark night or limit situations and the writings of St. Theresa of Jesus and St. John of the Cross deal in depth with the spiritual exercise.
St. John of the Cross gave us some signs to identify an authentic dark night. However, we also need to differentiate between an authentic and a false or fake dark night. Unhealthy state of depression and loss of interest in prayer due to laxity in spiritual life are examples of false or fake dark night. Below are signs of authentic dark night, the following:
2. The inability to pray discursively, Meditation or mental prayer using one’s memory and imagination becomes impossible.
3. There is neither consolation in prayer nor in the material things and the mind, memory, and imagination cannot be fixed on any particular object. Sometimes the person’s mind is just blank.
Here is a story of this example. It really happened.
Satanist to Christian: My brother, how do you do today.
Christian: Fine...
Christian2: Dont call him brother. He is no brother to you.
Satanist: Why? What is the difference between us?
Christian2: His father loves him and will reward him for being obiediant, while yours barely knows you exist and you will never know a fathers love and gifts.
@balloydspiritsoul this has nothing to do with satanism u idiot it is talking about LOVE, not hatred. Satan has no love, not even to his highest followers.
The dark night of the soul refers to FAITH. Faith as one of the theological virtues causes darkness and a void in understanding in the intellect as hope begets emptiness of possessions in the memory, and charity produces nakedness and emptiness of affection and joy in all that is not God.
Faith affirms what cannot be understood by the intellect. St Paul refers this said FAITH in Hebrews 11:1.
"Dark Night of the Soul (Spanish: La noche oscura del alma) is the title of a poem written by 16th century Spanish poet and Roman Catholic mystic Saint John of the Cross, as well as of a treatise he wrote later, commenting on the poem. ...His poem narrates the journey of the soul from its bodily home to its union with God." Wikipedia
One may not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, yet it can be a reference point along the way. If you search and read about John of the Cross, his words and his life are living testament to Jung's disagreeable, less glamorous life. In fact, John stayed in his fog or mist for much of his life. he yearned for the presence of his beloved, his God, I hope that his words give voice to the end, not the beginning of his search. I am confident of this.
it's passionate, sensual, emotional, eternal, floating, slightly haunting, it's everything i could ask for in a song. it brings a slight tension about me as i listen. gorgous. i dont think there can be enough praise for her work.
does anyones else feel thier eyes sparkle with emotion when they listen?! vote up if thats a yes.
What a music !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whose depth is beyond our comprehension. It sounds like a divine music of God. I am already feeling its resonance with my heart. Well done AJMusicgirl.
Thanks for the text reference keydemoore @LunaKanamari. I am assuming it may be in English? I'm afraid I can not read any other language. I would like to add my opinion that many poems written about a relationship with God easily translate to the pure love between two people.
Saint John of the Cross is a doctor of the Catholic Church. The Dark night of the soul is the moment in one's spiritual life when the believer feels utterly cut from God, yet through reason and faith, knows that he is not. It is this night that must be lived to strenghten faith. Love grows best when it longs for Love. John explained this in a very poetic way.
@Versgolem I've felt this w/ depression. Not sure if that's what it refers to, but I understand it: the darkness is a blessing because you seek the light more fervently.
Though this song isn't religious, it was inspired by spiritual writings about a "dark night of the soul" - a feeling of being separated from a source of love. If you don't like the words "spiritual" or "religion", fine, but don't obscenely tell people that they are wrong to comment on the very same qualities that inspired Loreena McKennitt to write this in the first place. Try researching the lyrics.
Voice of an Angel. :)
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filipp721 2 months ago
Omg... i love you loreena mc'kennit, you saved my soul, thanks for create wonderfull music; Gracias Loreena Mc'kennit por crear musica tan hermosa, me calma los nervios, Me hace pensar que todos debemos amarnos por igual T_T No te mueras nunca loreena :'(
UesugiAlex 3 months ago
bella !
PULCE2304 3 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Loreena McKennitt
Soooo beautiful...
laurabellisoprano 4 months ago
Me remete cheiro de jasmim!
jjufonfon 4 months ago
12 persons get lost their souls
mostrillo74 5 months ago 10
How special I would hold a love of my life... she would hold the beauty of this song...Princess still do exist and theyre not made by disney
CommercialAtrophy 5 months ago
Loreena and saint John of the Cross? Beautiful combination...
AureusVenerabilis 5 months ago 2
I listen to her while I write; it helps my soul and I love her for it. I couldn't write without her.
musiclovinggurl123 5 months ago
Long live Loreena Mckennitt!
vashtiverous78 5 months ago 7
georgious...best song since i lost my wife 15 years ago..
unforgettable886 6 months ago 5
her voice makes my skin crawl...so beautiful... :')
rockaki199 6 months ago 7
my compliments
marco17143 6 months ago
Es difícil poner voz a un poema, pero más difícil es adjetivar esta obra de arte. GRACIAS ^^
jaquesix 6 months ago
This song so speaks to a very few times in my life where the spirit of the Lord made His way into my heart and just about broke it, with His overwhelming love. Mankind needs that. And we need to find it soon.
utbsks 6 months ago
много нежна
zuza73100 6 months ago
this song is fucking beautiful and it only has 998 likes?? what the fuck is wrong with you people??!!
dogfightvj 6 months ago
@dogfightvj look around the world... justin bieber..... jonas brothers etc.... :(
StormwarriorSaros 6 months ago
@StormwarriorSaros yeah...that's sad :(
dogfightvj 6 months ago
@dogfightvj only sad for them! :P
teifling1 6 months ago
the last unicorn as a cover! awesome... and... i fucking love her voice
StormwarriorSaros 6 months ago
awsome
eminEm99RWJ 6 months ago
Don'tpeple read Dante anymore??~
katoklzmk 7 months ago in playlist loreena Mckennitt
just discovered her, she is a genuine artist. her songs are more meaningful than modern meaningless crap.
destinydenied1 7 months ago 4
This song is one of my favourite. Really moving, if you think about it like a tale of a lady and her lover but the fact it's a prayer in disguise really make me feel I am loosing something being agnostic. It took the advice of a friend to notice it: "Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took
their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom". This is just beyond poetry...
theevhorscope 7 months ago
If there is one song in this world that can make me rest, then this is it.
gooty64 7 months ago
Loreena Mckennitt, you and you alone are the only woman I have never met who can so easily make me cry. Blessings.
webweaver101 7 months ago
I'm on a quest to prove her being an angel....I guess her songs are proof!!
6MemoryOfForever9 7 months ago
this song is about love its not meant to make you cry lol..
slipknut820 7 months ago
Creeps and a good feeling.
MrKalle274 8 months ago
i love this song so much.
Jbminnow13 8 months ago
This song made me cry.
MartianWonders 9 months ago
A voice of angel <3 she is an angel herself :3
jinkazama1992 9 months ago 2
I love her music since I was 15years old. However after her concern I went to 2years ago I can only say: her voice even that sounds amazing on cd, sounds even better in real.
milvunia 9 months ago
I love her music since I was 15years old. However after her concern I went to 2years ago I can only say: her voice even that sounds amazing on cd, sounds even better in real.
milvunia 9 months ago
I found this song back in the 90's. I bought the CD and everyone I made listen thought they would hate it. Then they heard it. And that was it. I have had much sadness in my life. This songs make me believe in God again. Since it is based on a letter of a saint and his bod with God.
tracywinful 9 months ago 2
for the children who are so narrow between the eyes, learn ; the "cute" you base all on is meant for puppies and babies ; loreena is truly beautiful.
thecelt1950 9 months ago
que voz angelical!!!!!!!!!!!!INCREIBLE !!!!!Te transporta a otro mundo ,donde brilla el sol tibio de primavera,el aire huele a hierba recien cortada,campos de lavanda inundan mi alma,una paz inconmensurable me envuelve,como una manta en una noche fresca,donde los pensamientos vuelan,dejando el corazon en eterna armonia...............
MsAfrodita14 10 months ago 2
she sings.....even devilmay cry....
thedevilmaycry660 10 months ago
@mossdace - a woman's looks are not all on her face .....
poet625 10 months ago
SHE IS BEAUTIFUL INSIDE AND OUT!!!!
dandanjanett1 10 months ago 3
When I need inspiration for my fics and drawings I ehar Loreena's Songs they always make m efeel so relaxed adn then inspiration comes
DragonofShu 10 months ago
Great distraction and great vide0!! thank u downloadmusic .im
josieradomski81 10 months ago
Lorenna, i love her. I wish someday to meet her.....and her beautiful voice, so high in the heavens. She is truly angel.
FallingRoses3 11 months ago
I wish she was my mother, I can just imagine the love I would have felt.
BMoses16 11 months ago
@BMoses16 Same here mate!!! she's the mother I'd like to have and never had!!, but i guess God didn't gave her children and just her dogs cause she's too good for human kind!! I adore this woman!!! it's my dream to meet her and thank her for everything she has done for me whithout even know me. Loreena is an angel!!
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She is highly gifted,i always feel like my soul is already on the journey each time i listen to this song.
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kenex1000 11 months ago
her physical beauty matches her iner beauty.,..........Thats beauty :3 made no scene but still ;D
mossface78562 11 months ago 2
@mossface78562 Don't think you've seen enough pictures of her. Loreena McKennit makes amazing music, but she isn't rated very high on the looks scale ;)
KingWilliamI 10 months ago
It is not liek it really matter though. In music what should matter is vocal skills and not look unfortunately pop music tires to prove the diffferent
DragonofShu 10 months ago
@DragonofShu Yeah, I definitely agree. Actually, in far too many areas of life we tend to focus on physical beauty when it doesn't really matter. God does not look on the outside, so why should we?
KingWilliamI 10 months ago 3
This song has words in it which come from the poems and writings of St John of The Cross. Dark night of the soul is a metaphor used to describe a phase in a person's spiritual life, marked by a sense of loneliness and desolation. His poem narrates the journey of the soul from its bodily home to its union with God. The journey occurs during the night, which represents the hardships and difficulties the soul meets in detachment from the world and reaching the light of God
donegal2 11 months ago 24
@donegal2 Yeah right. Sounds to me like he's meeting his gay lover.
fabs039 1 month ago
@fabs039 With that comment we all realize your secret and deepest desires...
lyfnov 1 month ago 3
If you have read the comments on the album, this song is a song that could be written as if speaking of a lover, or of her enduring love of her God...
She writes and sings from her soul.
TheBecray 1 year ago
who ever says shes ugkly is wrong, theyre ugly for being so heartless and mean... and l.m is beautiful.
98abbygail 1 year ago
to those all who say she's ugly. Why must you people be so narrow minded. Who cares what she looks like, her voice is amazing. If you cant listen to her music because you think she is ugly then you clearly dont deserve to listen to her at all. Oh and FUCK YOU!!!!!! haters are not appreciated.
quinn244 1 year ago
11 people will never leave the dark night of their souls. How can anyone "dislike" such a beautiful song?
We've all met the dark night of our souls at some point or another, but some people choose not only to live in it but to drag the world into it as well.
Live, love and let go, people.
Bardolph1978 1 year ago
A wonderful and a wonderful voice!
Kind greetings from Germany
1969Ragnar 1 year ago
Harika bir ses sahip..
PeArlMuge 1 year ago
@bethmaclellan27 She is not ugly
blarnzz 1 year ago
@blarnzz amen to that!!!
quinn244 1 year ago
good job Loeena McKennitt. Peace~u have an angels voice.
notntusay 1 year ago
good job Loeena McKennitt. Peace~
notntusay 1 year ago
@bethmaclellan27 Close your eyes and listen to her angelic voice and prodiguous music instead...
JayOkan 1 year ago
"Is mankind that really screwed up"? Just look around you ! abigelow. What do you think?
Terenceish 1 year ago
It's about a thing called Faith. I you notice, I prefaced my remarksby saying "As Christians". I'm not prosletising. I'm just stating a belief.
Terenceish 1 year ago
i like it =)
harryestonoesserio 1 year ago
Not so much the search for God as the finding of Him in ecstacy.
Huineng10 1 year ago
As Christians, we are Saved. Jesus' Death has saved us all. We are the only religion that says we all saved. Others try to be saved by ay means available, pilgrimages to Mecca and Medina etc and then HOPE that we will be pleasing to Allah, Mohammed, Krishna etc. As Christians we are, by Jesus' death on the CROSS, already Saved. Just accept Jesus into your hearts and thank and praise every day of your remaining years. We are SAVED.
Terenceish 1 year ago
deepest true
pio563 1 year ago
@Terenceish Is mankind really that screwed that we need to be saved. What happened to just trying to save ourselves instead of depending on God to do it for us. He's busy enough as it is.
abigelow06 1 year ago
She is the only woman I never met who makes me cry. Her imagination and craft have changed my life.
RudgeBarnaby 1 year ago 54
@RudgeBarnaby Oh, my friend... My sentiments exactly.
IRedefinePulse 1 year ago
@RudgeBarnaby Loreena is extremelly friendly, I hope you meet her one day.. after a concert in Greece although she was tired and hurry she didnt deny for a warm hug and kiss, she got photos with fans and she was extremelly happy ! I remember she was a very simple person, we had a mini discuss.. when I had a photo with her accidentally the flash of the camera didnt light on, and I told her "sorry, sorrryyyyy let me take the photo again !" and she start laughing saying "of course, dont worry !!!"
mixailaggelos2004 11 months ago 3
damn thanks that means you dont have a life
frogg995 8 months ago
@frogg995 More than you could hope for, frog
RudgeBarnaby 8 months ago
I'm listening to this while watching the sunset. so peaceful.
Laurakbp1992 1 year ago 37
I love this music , this woman is very good ! Yours music are Very Nice ! Congratulations !
luckbike 1 year ago 2
@luckbike Look up Enya she's good too. My favirote song from her is Exile
tweethang1 1 year ago 2
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continue..
10. The death of loved one
11. The infidelity of the spouses
12. Jealousy and envy
13. Intrigues
14. The betrayal of friends and loved ones
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
@ignatiusofantioch2 -really interesting. I presumed though that the dark night, was a purely spiritual occurrence. That God hiimself withdraws (affectively) from the soul, such that the soul cannot feel the presence of God. Moreover, the things that you mentioned are all common occurrences. Isn't the dark night a spiritual occurrence that occcurs in well advanced souls, ie souls that have entered the 5th or 6th mansion? thanks for the info
brwnboy187 1 year ago
@brwnboy187
Actually, the poem of St. John of the Cross, “Dark night of the Soul” talks about three (3) nights:
1. TWILIGHT (mortification by souls in mansions 1-5 with dark night of the senses).
2. MIDNIGHT ( faith which is the dark night of the soul in the 6th mansion as argued by St. John of the Cross earlier in this channel, which is the darkest of all nights).
3. DAWN (Union with God).
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
@brwnboy187
The flow showing the passage from the 1st to the 7th Mansion based on John’s description of the three nights in the poem, “Dark night of the soul”:
1. TWILIGHT --- First mansion to Third Mansion; Dark night of the senses required to soar to 4th Mansion and 5th Mansion;
2. MIDNIGHT --- 6th Mansion where dark night of the soul occurs, involves purification of the personal unconscious;
3. DAWN --- 7th Mansion involves integration, transformation, and union with God.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
@brwnboy187
Does this mean the contemplative will become very spiritual and live in the clouds and stop being human?
It does not mean that. Life in this world goes on and going to God is still through the world but it is now in God’s terms. In going to God on God’s terms the realization dawns that none of the means used, now matter how holy, is God. Nothing in all creation is God. God is No-Thing. Therefore, happiness and salvation cannot be found in any creature, law or movement.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
@brwnboy187
John of the Cross thinks it is pitiful that people cannot really take off to freedom because of some little attachments (voluntary habitual faults or personality defects) that they cannot face and accept. What a pity it is when so much has already been given up and for such a little thing one is held bound and cannot soar off to freedom. Ambivalence in prayer life often means that one wants God but also wants himself. Life is faced on merely human terms, not God’s.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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“Nothing, nothing, nothing, even to the stripping of your own skin” says John of the Cross. What does John mean when he said, “on the top of the mountain, nothing, nothing, nothing?” He meant that the inadequacy of all that is not God, must be faced every moment. John of the Cross’ way is a very direct route to God. It is death to normal ways of action. It is death to the Old Man. It involves suffering because all deaths are painful. Continue...
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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As the response to God in the active night of the senses grows, He will gradually lead the contemplative into the passive night. John of the Cross said: “We cannot purify ourselves from our seven capital sins and its roots that go deeply in our subconscious, unless God leads us.”
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
@ignatiusofantioch2 Death is painful Not unless you have a huge amount morphine and a bottle of pills sitting next to you.
tweethang1 1 year ago
@ignatiusofantioch2 As for the bible saying death is painful I could careless. The bible doesn't apply to me. But other then all that brushed aside. I hardly think that Loreena McKennits music has a role in the religious department. Except her winter albums of course
tweethang1 1 year ago
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Tweethang1: “I hardly think that Loreena McKennits music has a role in the religious department…”
If you want to know the value and meaning of this song which is just a translation from the poem of St. John of the Cross's “Dark night of the soul,” then I would recommend you to read St. John’s works (“The Ascent of Mount Carmel” and the “The dark night of the soul”) to find the truth. God bless.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago 2
@ignatiusofantioch2 Did you know she's a pagan?
tweethang1 1 year ago
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I am not familiar with Loreen’s religious affiliation.
You don’t need to be a Christian to compose and to sing this kind of song like in this channel. But I believe also that when Loreen translated John’s poem “Dark night of the soul, ” into a musical piece of art like we have in this channel, she had read St. John’s classical works on mysticism which explained thoroughly what a dark night of the soul is. And the works of St. John of the Cross had a great effect on her life.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago 4
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10. The death of loved one
11. The infidelity of the spouses
12. Jealousy and envy
13. Intrigues
14. The betrayal of friends and loved ones
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
My favorite song by Loreena! So beautiful!!
jimmckfx 1 year ago
I dedicate this video to a Fabulous Rose.
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bilanehasan 1 year ago
There are arguments, passages, and figures from Scripture in proof that faith is a dark night for the soul.
1. “Faith is a certain and obscure habit of the soul” (St. Thomas Aquinas). It is an obscure habit because faith brings us to believe divinely revealed truths that transcend every natural light and infinitely exceed all human understanding in which consequently the excessive light of faith bestowed on a soul is darkness for it; a brighter light will eclipse and suppress a dimmer one.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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The light of faith in its abundance suppresses and overwhelms that of the intellect. For intellect, by its own power, extends only to natural knowledge, though it has potency to be raised to a supernatural act whenever our Lord wishes.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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2. “Knowledge arises in the soul from both the faculty and the object in hand” (Aristotle). The intellect knows only in natural way, that is, by means of the senses. If one is to know in this natural way, the phantasms and species of objects will have to be present either in themselves or in their likenesses; otherwise one will be incapable of knowing naturally.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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For example, if those born blind were told about the nature of the colors white or yellow, they would understand absolutely nothing no matter how much instruction they received. Since they never saw these colors nor others like them, they would not have the means to form a judgment about them.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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3. Faith informs us of matters we have never seen or known, either in themselves or in their likeness. In fact, nothing like them exists. The light of natural knowledge does not show us the object of faith, since this object is unproportioned to any of the senses. Yet we come to know it through hearing, by believing what faith teaches us, blinding our natural light and bringing it to submission.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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St. Paul said to the Romans, “Thus faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes through the word of Christ” (Rom. 10:17). This means that faith is not a knowledge derived from the senses but an assent of the soul to what enters through hearing.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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4. Faith far exceeds what these examples teach us. Not only does faith fail to produce knowledge and science but, as we said, faith deprives and blinds people of any knowledge by which they may judge it. Other knowledge is acquired by the light of the intellect, but not the knowledge of faith.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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Faith nullifies the light of the intellect; and if this light is not darkened, the knowledge of faith is lost. Isaiah said, “If you do not believe, you will not understand” (Is. 7:9).
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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Faith, manifestly, is a dark night for souls, but in this way it gives them light. The more darkness it brings on them, the more light it sheds. For by blinding, it illuminates them according to those words of Isaiah that if you do not believe you will not understand; that is, you will not have light (Is. 7:9).
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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Faith was foreshadowed in that cloud that separated the children of Israel, just before their entry into the Red Sea, from the Egyptians (Ex. 14:19-20). Scripture says of the cloud: “The cloud was dark and illuminated the night”(Ex. 14:20).
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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5. The dark cloud in Ex. 14:20 illustrates how faith, a dark and obscure cloud to souls ( also a night in that it blinds and deprives them of their natural light), illumines and pours light into the darkness by means of its own darkness. This is fitting so that the disciple may be like the master.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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A person in darkness does not receive adequate enlightenment except by another darkness, according to David’s teaching: “The day brims over and breathes speech to the day, and the night manifests knowledge to the night” (Ps. 19:3). Expressed more clearly, this means: The day, which is God (in bliss where it is day), communicates and pronounces the Word, his Son, to the angels and blessed souls, who are now day;
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and this he does that they may have knowledge and enjoyment of him. And the night, which is the faith, present in the Church Militant where it is still night, manifests knowledge to the Church and, consequently, to every soul. This knowledge is night to the souls because they do not possess the clear beatific wisdom, and because faith blinds them as to their own natural light.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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6. Our deduction is that since faith is a dark night, it illuminates the soul that is in darkness. We verify, then, David’s assertion on this matter: “Night will be my illumination in the midst of my delights” (Ps. 139:11). This amounts to saying: The night of faith will be my guide in the delights of my pure contemplation and union with God. By this passage David clearly informs us of the darkness demanded on this road if a soul is to receive light.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
@ignatiusofantioch2
Source for the arguments, passages, and figures from Scripture to prove that Faith is a dark night for the soul.
Source: St. John of the Cross, Book 2, Ch. 3, Ascent of Mount Carmel, pp. 157-159.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
@ignatiusofantioch2 - lol, u speak gibberish. Not because what you say is gibberish, but because you are merely copying and pasting the intensive thought of another - and have not appropriated it into yourself.
brwnboy187 1 year ago
@brwnboy187
Calling me the messenger gibberish is ad hominem. In fact, what is more important here is not the messenger per se but the message. I am here clarifying the phrase “dark night of the soul” for those calling it differently. This is just an intellectual discussion regarding the work of St. John of the Cross. The way I understand St. John’s argument regarding FAITH as dark night of the soul is spiritually breath-taking and an eye-opener and thus, it can never be gibberish.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
@ignatiusofantioch2 - ok fine, u seem genuine enough. So tell me then, without quotes in your own words what the dark night is. How will one know one is in it.
brwnboy187 1 year ago
@brwnboy187
I like best how St. John of the Cross described this “dark night” in the First stanza of his “The Spiritual Canticle” which gives us the idea of what it is really like, which says: “Where have you hidden beloved and you left me moaning after you have wounded me.”
Anyway, dark night is any problematic situation in your life, which seems to have no solution at all (this is also referred to as “limit situation”).
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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In this regard, what is necessary is a change of our attitudes to accept the situation on hand -- Do we allow the situation to break us apart or do you accept it as a moment of grace. That is up to us.
When the situations and our reactions to them no longer overwhelm us, we become free. Then, we can face the dark night without acting as slaves to internal or external pressures because we can let go of trying to control everything.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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In this way, we can address the situation as God wills and not as we will.
Contemplative prayer is the way out of dark night or limit situations and the writings of St. Theresa of Jesus and St. John of the Cross deal in depth with the spiritual exercise.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
@brwnboy187
How do we know that we are in dark night?
St. John of the Cross gave us some signs to identify an authentic dark night. However, we also need to differentiate between an authentic and a false or fake dark night. Unhealthy state of depression and loss of interest in prayer due to laxity in spiritual life are examples of false or fake dark night. Below are signs of authentic dark night, the following:
1. A desire to be alone with God in prayer.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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2. The inability to pray discursively, Meditation or mental prayer using one’s memory and imagination becomes impossible.
3. There is neither consolation in prayer nor in the material things and the mind, memory, and imagination cannot be fixed on any particular object. Sometimes the person’s mind is just blank.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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4. The inability to pray causes worry, fear and anxiety that God has been offended.
5. And some mysterious way, God is taking away all the securities that those being purified used to rely upon.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
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ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
Here is a story of this example. It really happened.
Satanist to Christian: My brother, how do you do today.
Christian: Fine...
Christian2: Dont call him brother. He is no brother to you.
Satanist: Why? What is the difference between us?
Christian2: His father loves him and will reward him for being obiediant, while yours barely knows you exist and you will never know a fathers love and gifts.
Judahtoon 1 year ago
This song wanna made me make a black robe and go to a deepe forest at midnight and practice satanism! that was in 1994!
balloydspiritsoul 1 year ago
@balloydspiritsoul this has nothing to do with satanism u idiot
Judahtoon 1 year ago
@balloydspiritsoul this has nothing to do with satanism u idiot it is talking about LOVE, not hatred. Satan has no love, not even to his highest followers.
Judahtoon 1 year ago
@Judahtoon : I know asshole... I know. But listening to it, just wanna make me go to a ddep dark forest and do something very strange!
balloydspiritsoul 1 year ago
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ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
@balloydspiritsoul
You are funny. LOL.
The dark night of the soul refers to FAITH. Faith as one of the theological virtues causes darkness and a void in understanding in the intellect as hope begets emptiness of possessions in the memory, and charity produces nakedness and emptiness of affection and joy in all that is not God.
Faith affirms what cannot be understood by the intellect. St Paul refers this said FAITH in Hebrews 11:1.
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
"Dark Night of the Soul (Spanish: La noche oscura del alma) is the title of a poem written by 16th century Spanish poet and Roman Catholic mystic Saint John of the Cross, as well as of a treatise he wrote later, commenting on the poem. ...His poem narrates the journey of the soul from its bodily home to its union with God." Wikipedia
MsWildchild1967 1 year ago
Perfection, a deep love beyond the common language we use, mature and understood.
Thanks for enriching my life with this offering to us all.
HY34HU 1 year ago 2
a musical mystic
Bruce99100 1 year ago
One may not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, yet it can be a reference point along the way. If you search and read about John of the Cross, his words and his life are living testament to Jung's disagreeable, less glamorous life. In fact, John stayed in his fog or mist for much of his life. he yearned for the presence of his beloved, his God, I hope that his words give voice to the end, not the beginning of his search. I am confident of this.
dwrigo111 1 year ago
Beautiful song and thank you for sharing it.
Crystallorri 1 year ago
LUV HER MUSIC
imiquilena 1 year ago
11 people are completely noobs, this song is great!
BILLTOMARIOS 1 year ago 2
Loreena's songs make me dream about Ireland, and I'm not even Irish.
SirianKings 1 year ago
was für ein Lied und text
k2dcjan 1 year ago
I've read the poem in Spanish, it's indescribable... And this song is so beautiful.
pitsinokaki 1 year ago
Essa canção libera o que há de mais íntimo em noss'alma. Belissíma.
28dony 1 year ago
es una canciòn verdaderamente hermosa, me encanta.
ulisescastro24 1 year ago
Bellissima!!! è una melodia celtica Irlandese..c'è stato un periodo che le suonavo.
Viadellaluce 1 year ago
Dolcissima melodia, fa bene all'anima. Grazie
soledeldeserto 1 year ago
I love the general feel of this song.. but I gotta say there a few places the lyrics could have been touched up a bit..
hopefully my snobbish criticism wont rub off that ill on everybody else...
other than that.. great!
Scorner99 1 year ago
it's passionate, sensual, emotional, eternal, floating, slightly haunting, it's everything i could ask for in a song. it brings a slight tension about me as i listen. gorgous. i dont think there can be enough praise for her work.
does anyones else feel thier eyes sparkle with emotion when they listen?! vote up if thats a yes.
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beautiful song
2003gaga 1 year ago
it makes me crying...
Mockbert 1 year ago 3
What a music !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whose depth is beyond our comprehension. It sounds like a divine music of God. I am already feeling its resonance with my heart. Well done AJMusicgirl.
kbukhari2000 1 year ago 10
beautiful song
JerusalemHolyLand 1 year ago 3
This was the song I chose for my wedding song, My husband John and I were married on 4/15/95 and have been together since.
GrimmBear 1 year ago 6
Thanks for the text reference keydemoore @LunaKanamari. I am assuming it may be in English? I'm afraid I can not read any other language. I would like to add my opinion that many poems written about a relationship with God easily translate to the pure love between two people.
hjhaynes 1 year ago 2
@hjhaynes
The original poem was written in Spanish but there is more than one English translation of the book.
keydemoore 1 year ago
I was listening to this album while reading "Interview with a Vampire" from Anne Rice...there is no better accompanying music for that story.
"The Two Trees" is also a monumental glance of starlight in the night...Loreena should be known by more.
Maeguk 1 year ago 4
@Maeguk
In my opinion her songs seam to be composed to be listened while reading "The Mists Of Avalon". They are magical together!
LaDameDeShalott 1 year ago
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copihuepondis 1 year ago
A Catholic saint wrote the poem. It's meant to be "spiritual", and if a non-spiritual doesn't like it, too bad.
mothglitter 1 year ago
this song is very beautiful..
but it was inspired by a monk named Johannes von Kreuz.. He wrote the original poem which is used for this song.
benathil 1 year ago
@benathil the monk was spanish (Juan de la Cruz), Johannes von Kreuz is the name translated to German (?)
Poetamo 1 year ago
'Twas my wedding song too..leelee0152.
I walked down the isle to this song..divorced 2 yrs later,but eh..was still a lovely song to get married to..;D
Uniteo8 1 year ago 5
YAY! I CAN'T WAIT!
leelee0152 1 year ago
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leelee0152 1 year ago
MY WEDDING SONG YES!
leelee0152 1 year ago 4
Wondersong
evilkoeny 1 year ago 2
Saint John of the Cross is a doctor of the Catholic Church. The Dark night of the soul is the moment in one's spiritual life when the believer feels utterly cut from God, yet through reason and faith, knows that he is not. It is this night that must be lived to strenghten faith. Love grows best when it longs for Love. John explained this in a very poetic way.
Versgolem 1 year ago
@Versgolem I've felt this w/ depression. Not sure if that's what it refers to, but I understand it: the darkness is a blessing because you seek the light more fervently.
mothglitter 1 year ago 2
Though this song isn't religious, it was inspired by spiritual writings about a "dark night of the soul" - a feeling of being separated from a source of love. If you don't like the words "spiritual" or "religion", fine, but don't obscenely tell people that they are wrong to comment on the very same qualities that inspired Loreena McKennitt to write this in the first place. Try researching the lyrics.
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