Wait wait wait wait... did I understand that you, Stefbot, approve of goverment limiting the right of people to voluntarily get together and bargain collectively? Did you have a stroke and become stupid overnight and forget everything you've ever said in video, betray all your values, stop caring about the "gun in the room," or did I misunderstand something?
It's nice to hear some intellectual honesty applied to issues of the day. You made an excellent point in another video where you mention the importance of philosophy in society. Philosophy is what's left when you strip away the biases, opinions, environmental influences and agendas. To learn philosophy is to learn the systematic discovery of truth. Ayn Rand would say to look at the premises of your thoughts. This is missing from 99% of public discourse today.
The unions have a right to protest if their collective bargaining rights are taken away. Who the fuck controls most of the resources or controls the monetary system? It certainly isn't labor. It's the bankers and the bosses in the private sector who then gain the most lobbying power over the government time and time again.
@PersianPaladin: The public sector unions make their money off the violence of the state. As far as I'm concerned, they have no "right" to bargain for that money, especially in a time where people need all the money they can get and can ill afford massive taxes.
@PersianPaladin So it nothing to do with state power? That's an interesting point of view you have. There are over 5 million incorporated companies in the US and you are referring to the ones who partner up with buddies in the state. Do you not see that it is the state that is to blame or are you just going to ignore this glaring fact?
I'd also advise the people here to not even bother talking to people who believe in the social contract or think "taxation is voluntary". These people obviously are retarded beyond redemption. Reasonable statists support the state because it is needed. Not because they think the state is the moral equivalent to a private company.
@DaveElectric just have to get enough people to see something for what it is and the rest who were previously alienated from reason will follow, regardless of whether they actually understand it or not. or maybe, we are doomed to be ignorant as an entire species until we are snuffed out. either way i'm beginning to feel pretentious speaking like this since i really don't have a damn clue about this or anything else really.
@Rumplefrumple It could very well be possible for reason to thrive, but I don't think you understand where I'm coming from. I'm against the state, but I've learned to recognize that some people thrive on statism. "Reason" would alienate these people.
The government is not a company. It exist because old men way back when thought of it as a practical solution to the problem of finding law and order. It's property (and therefore authority) is accumulated because people think it needs it. It wasn't accumulated voluntary in a free market. So right off the back it doesn't make a difference if we have a SSN or are registered as citizens. It's complete circular reasoning anyway to use these articles as a moral arguements.
Stefan, please please please, challenge this guy, "wonderingmind42", to an online debate. I've watched most of the videos on his channel and i am appalled by his intellectual dishonesty and the people in the comment section who buy into his "ideas". I'm struggling to battle the liberal nincompoops in the comment section. I am very sure that you can roundly school him if he agrees to a debate. Everyone go watch his videos and thumb this up if you agree! /watch?v=GmTYFlB1HX8 or search his name
Sorry 2 B the one 2 break it 2 U but Stef "has no clothes". He NEVER uses evidence and ALWAYS results to the grade 9 litterary tool known as the allegory to misdirect and mislead sheep like yurself.
There is no state or governments as an entity, only companies. ALL taxes are voluntary and your egoic need to remove responsibility for your actions is at the heart of yur deception.
Stef fears me as he knows that I could hand his ass to him on this topic.
@Darkhorse21x Taxes are voluntary!? Wow, great news! lol. also, trying to belittle someones philosophical argument by blaming it on ulterior motives is a tactic that should be reserved for TV pundits, it's nothing new, and it does nothing to further the debate. Stef DOES use evidence, and you can point the finger of allegory at any philosopher out there, it doesn't make it true. Also, i couldn't find any links on your profile to any work that you've done(blogs/videos/books).....
@Darkhorse21x .... So unless you want to point me in that direction so we can have a constructive debate on your arguments or critiques, then your post was useless. Don't be a troll, yelling sheep! at everyone on youtube is a waste of time and effort.
@Darkhorse21x taxes are voluntary? orly? so are you saying that i won't be audited if i falsify my tax return? or that the government won't garnish my wages if i refuse to pay my taxes at all? or that i won't be ultimately imprisoned by the government if i continue to refuse to pay? then if i refuse to be imprisoned i wont be forcibly removed from my home and then incarcerated? if i then decide to physically resist while being arrested i wont get shot or tasered? thanks for the legal advice.
The founding fathers of America thought it was worth fighting against a tiny bit of taxation and many died on their way to liberty in the process of revolt. Why is fighting against massive taxation and perpetual servitude to banks for your children such a bad idea? Where the founders wrong to reject slavery to the crown?
@Beesnchickens not at all, i agree with you completely. it just seems to me that if we were to revolt, a new construct would emerge with the same requirements as the last one. maybe things will change... maybe not. as things are, it looks like we may find out soon enough. if things work out for the better i will see you on the other side, and we can then share a pitcher of beer and reminisce about how silly it all was.
These workers call for solidarity and support, but as long as they are literally the lap-dogs of the State, far more protected than the average worker, I feel no sympathy for their supposed "loss."
The state is in principal no different than any other private corporation except that at least in a democratic society the state can be held accountable to a degree by the people.
What you propose with your anarcho-capitalism model is a society that is ruled by tyrannic private corporations, i.e. "states" that have no accountability whatsoever and can exploit people however they want. This is as far away from real freedom and anarchism as it can get.
@xknowledgeisfreex I think you're overlooking one huge thing: the state is VERY different from a private corp. in that it gets to use force on individuals to transact with it. If I don't like Exxon or GM, I can choose to ignore them and there's not a damn thing they can do about it. The State gets to sieze my propery and/or throw me in jail if I don't want to transact with it...see the difference?
@Darkhorse21x There's much merit to what you're saying, but I think you are underestimating the reality of the State. If I refuse to give this 'concept' a piece of what I earn, it will eventually send people with guns to take what it wants. That's more than just a concept, I'm afraid. And I disagree that all associations are entered into freely. This entity forcibly takes a portion of what I earn, without 'ASKING" if I want its 'services'. The individual never gets an chance to opt out.
The company will seek remedy in the courts if U have dishonored your contractual agreements. If you remain in honor then you will be fine. If you do not like the contract you are in, then simply renounce your citizenship and move to another company that suits your needs.
U want the protection of the company yet U do not want the responsibility that comes with accepting that protection. This position is inconsistent and will lead U 2 dishonor. Live in honor. Die with Honor.
@phi50 if you're in Ghana or Nigeria and you ignore Exxon or Shell they will bring out storm-troopers with guns, fully paid for by them. Corporations are their own governments & they do have guns, guards, force ,and will kill. The corporations can seize your property, kill you & detain you with no prior notice, no laws & no reporting to anyone.
Yes, i understand. The state has the monopoly on force. That's why it's important that it is not controlled by capital, but democratically by the people.
In an anarcho-capitalist world the force would belong only to those who can afford it. Only rich people would be able to afford private security, poor people would be completely at the mercy of the rich ones. Therefore there would still be a ruling class and it would not be true anarchism.
@xknowledgeisfreex how would the rich get rich? they need to make money by offering a service to people....y would people willingly supply someone with dictatorial aspirations?
They could also get rich by heritage and it's not so easy to recognize if someone has dictatorial aspirations or not.
Furthermore it would be once again money that determines how much power anyone has, because also a consumer can only buy things if he has money and if he doesn't have money then he cannot exert any kind of influence by boycotting a vendor that has dictatorial aspirations. Rich people would have most of the power.
U R correct and a further example is Libya. What is happening is a change in business model from; Sole Proprietorship (Dictator) to a Public Corporation (Democracy)where each Shareholder (Citizen) has one voting share.
Stef is the Emperor who has no clothes. He constantly hides behind irrelevant allegories which are used to divert attention from the fact that he has NO IDEA about what he is talking about.
My last boss told me I'd be moved to another department to work twice as hard for zero increase in pay after the last increase in pay was a joke compared to inflation.
Thankfully I buy gold & silver PHYSICAL and was prepared for this.
I told my boss & boss's boss this was unacceptable.
Then got that upper-level boss fired too!
Because it's important to Roshambo for credibility.
@Darkhorse21x I am not The One. I will locate The One if there is one. The closest character I resemble is the Oracle.
I have an intuitive grasp for the future. I just put up more videos showing future prices of silver. That's how it opens. I've been doing this over a year, been getting very good at it.
The code, over-all, of life is like a machine code. It has patterns. /watch?v=KtOv3ufQeB4
The oracle is your doctor. "open your mouth and say ahh".
Just like a doctor who says to a patient, "you will never walk again", to stir the internal drive to prove him/her wrong. The Oracle tells "neo"(one) that he is not there yet, to spur him on to achieve his potential.
"Sorry kid, you've got the gift but it looks like your're waiting for something (permission)."
You are Neo, (one). We all are as individuals. I cannot do it 4 U. I can only hold open the door. U must walk thru.
@Darkhorse21x it's classic AI-terminology. Stefan would know it. The Agent acts on behalf of a set of rules. The Sentinels report values / data. The Oracle is the black box. To get the last answers that no other algorithm has you consult the Oracle (black box application) and it reports back those answers. In The Matrix the Oracle describes the Future. I do that. I am not "The One" but I can of course see the code. All I do is bend people to different code snippets reinforcing gainful futures
Saying that you can predict the future by making obvious investments in precious metals is hardly clairvoyance.
Precious metals always gain value in times of political uncertainty and upheaval.
Your reliance on gold and silver is just another prison 4 yur mind. The only thing of monetary value is human labor and even this is somewhat subjective as U must decide what U R worth or others will decide 4 U.
If U do not see yurself as the one, then U R correct. U don't ask anyone, U kno
@Darkhorse21x What I am doing is not obvious: what I am doing is showing the price movements on a daily basis. Others are only guessing, they do not understand the math or the fundamentals. I do more than this: I predict the momentum of every moving body part of every person near me, all their correlated emotional levels, and influence all of my environment based on this input, and control those things in others. The stock market play is just a subset of the same skill. Labor can't have
@Darkhorse21x I doubt I am "one with the universe" but I definitely see what many sheeple do not. Perception is important. Prediction assists perceptual timing & pattern analysis. Our small corner of the universe that is the living world & is further confined to the land-roving mammal world is not that complex in the end.
If U doubt it then that is your truth. Perception is reality. Just exactly how does prediction assist pattern analysis or perceptual timing, whatever that is? The Your last sentence is jibberish. The world in very complex, at least to us mere mammals.
@Darkhorse21x pattern analysis is interfered with by frequency distortions, overlapping time-series. Prediction allows removal of each signal from the noise, adding to a model, self-adjusting until the error-margin is so small that survival is assured by using the future-data from the model as reality. By acting faster than others can re-act, by knowing very far in advance, less complexity/energy is required to gather new data for reaction, using prediction at the same time.
@Darkhorse21x labour can't have the monetary value you claim: money must be a physical thing, an object of trade, and not all skilled labour is equal in need, nor in purpose. Money requires fungibility & long-term store of value. Energy has little long-term store of value as it depletes, labour is merely conversion of chemical energy to heat, motion, information processing in the mind, co-operative efforts. It is not a store of value or item of constant trade.
@Darkhorse21x untrue. Some things have value instantly and only some things retain value long after human interaction. Books, gold, silver, iron, structural mathematical plans, all have those traits. With no humans the value is still above zero: other life can & will use resources, including plants. Once labour is used once, it has zero lasting value - only non-labour physical objects can transmute value into storage.
Value as a tangible asset or value as a subjective asset? I speak of value as the tangible asset and not the subjective. We can differ on the value of information contained in a particular book which makes that value subjective.
What be cannot dispute is the labor that went into; planting the tree, cutting the wood, creating the pulp, making the paper, building the press, making the ink, printing the words, binding the book etc.
The real energy that created the book. See the diff?
@Darkhorse21x I'm speaking of tangible assets. Information requires a physical structure & a physical use in the world & is tangible by that merit. The instructions for a computer, hard-wired in another chip, is a tangible physical resource worth all the value the other machine can give you when the two are combined, for example. It is the labor which can be disputed: we don't know how much, if it was efficient, if it paid off in the end. Only the tangible object remains.
@Darkhorse21x "The energy is meant to flow, not to be stored. current=currency "
Currency is a fraud.
Gold is not currency. It is money. It is meant to be stored and traded, not only to flow. The only reason "currency" flows is because it's a hot-potato fraud we do not need. People are rid of it as fast as possible or are robbed by holding it. We need no such currency. Only money. They are not the same.
Energy & value MUST be stored or civilization crumbles.
Currency is a measure of human energy. Current flows between the banks of a river, just as currency flows between banks. Hoarding currency (damming) is only representative of potential energy (engineering term) and it is not until the current is released that you can actually create something like electricity (more current),
Flow and constant motion is the key.
Gold is a commodity that is useless in a vault but valuable as a product.
@Darkhorse21x Currency is not a measure of human energy. That is a fraud. Currency itself is a fraud. Every aspect you have ever been taught in your life about money being paper is a lie. Currency has only one purpose: to skim your work-production into someone else's production-benefit in terms of buying what they want with money you earned by printing more. That's the whole game. All of it. It is the Matrix. Hoarding currency does not work for that reason: holding GOLD is different.
@Darkhorse21x gold is something which is not currency: it has value in a vault because it has continued value for trade later outside a vault. All money is a commodity of physical use to be used later & stored before it is used or traded. Paper currency can never be money & gold, silver, platinum can never be anything BUT money. Flow & constant motion are bad: they kill economies & rob people. Savings are too important: flow must stop & remain stopped for efficiency purposes.
U R missing the point. Currency, be it gold, silver or paper money is just a physical representation of the input labor of humans.
Your point is nonsensical. Are Copper, Titanium and Manganese considered money too? There are rare and "valuable" industrial metals. Why are they not considered money too?
Gold and Silver have industrial applications and are better suited to that than being wasted in a vault somewhere. This is why fiat currency is necessary.
@Darkhorse21x No, I think you are missing the point. The input is not the important part - the storage is. Humans can input lots of labor with nothing to show for it later - this has no lasting value. Gold, computer chips, carvings, do not have that failure. Copper, titanium & manganese are traded for later use - they are money as a result. Copper is what pennies were made from until copper became too high value & people are now saving the old ones. Pennies are money.
Input is the MOST IMPORTANT part. Without the input there are no objects of value.Everything you listed, gold, computer chips and carvings do not exist until some human puts their energy into creating them. The object created is a reflection of the effort put into making it so the ONLY true value is the times and effort that went into making it, Pennies do not exist until some person mines the ore, refines the raw material into a useable form, puts the material into a press etc.
@Darkhorse21x Input is the least important part. Many things are available directly from nature - be it food, water or ores. It's only because of human consumption & wasteful lack of recycling many other things we need are less available by these routes because human input has REMOVED value rather than finding or adding value - pollution, landfills, over-population leading to consumption rates faster than natural restoration rates.
@ytgv3fc7 You should do some more research on landfills. It is a myth that landfills are overflowing, and American pollution levels are better than they were 40 years ago.
@joepeeler34 I've done PLENTY of research on this - landfills are leaking, overflowing, being expanded, being packed full and then no one's got anywhere left to create more and then stuff gets burned, releasing toxins into the air. This is a non-stop cycle around the world, including America. Don't delude yourself. Every year is worse, your 40 year nonsense is still nonsense. America's worse off than ever before.
@Darkhorse21x the most important part can never be input - if it can be never stored that input value is zero. It must retain value for decades to thousands of years to have real value. That's what value is. Input is nothing more than a brief flow of energy - much of it wasted on nothing of value even for 10 minutes. Despite your disbelief, raw ore with desired minerals DOES have trade value as well as refined ore, gold, copper, etc.
@Darkhorse21x no, at the end of the week I am looking at no such thing.
At the end of the week I am looking at a debt owed to me and debt-notes are allocated. Those debt notes have no value.
It is only by immediately swapping all those debt notes for valuables like food & gold that I can retain anything. If I do not do this they are zero. Zero value, lots of work for nothing. Only you have inserted your head deep into your own Anus on this one.
The value of legal tender is represented NOT in the inanimate object of Earth but in the ONLY infinitely renewable resource, which is human labor. YOU are the collateral for legal tender. Your Birth Certificate is the BOND upon which the loan is drawn. The BIRTH REGISTRATION makes U a citizen of the company and eligible to receive benefits to a certain basic level. The SS/SIN #'s allow U the benefit of acting in commerce and receive a higher benefit level. Your value = wage.
@Darkhorse21x I see you are the one missing the point. There's no such thing as wasting in a vault: when gold, silver, copper, anything, is put in a vault that is the OPTIMAL use for it. Not a waste but the LEAST wasteful use - just like storing food from good crop yields so that when crops DON'T go well you still have food so you don't go hungry. Storing money for later is required so you have some later with NO other way of using any to trade. Only an idiot does none of this. A hungry one
U R missing the point. Gold sitting in a vault is ONLY potential. Until it is put into some useful service it is absolutely wasted. What "value"is your car siting in your drive way for it's entire existence? Nothing! Not until U actually use the car as a means of transportation is it of any true value. Aesthetic value is useless. Sure it may be nice to "look at", but that too is subjective and based upon personal preference. Looking at it wont get U from point A to point B.
@Darkhorse21x You are missing the point: the potential for traded goods is the MOST IMPORTANT quality - once it's used if it's not recycled it has no lasting value to anyone. The potential gives OPTIONS. Those options & potential are the HIGHEST importance, not the least. By USING a car I wear it out & consume gas. By having it in good condition & fueled I have the POTENTIAL to move where I need without first knowing where that is.
There is no security in stored value. Nearly everyone who dies, dies with excess value stored in a vault or some equivalent somewhere. So your statement about stored value as security is falsified. It can give you the sense of security and that is just an illusion of your mind. If your money is in a bank and you have no access to it and a mugger wants $500 or he will take your life, how can the $1,000,000 you have in the bank protect U?
@Darkhorse21x you have no valid reason for why fiat currency is necessary: fiat currency is theft and that theft is not necessary. The instant I am forced to use, even to receive once for pay, in a fiat currency, I am a slave. Only that can make me a slave, nothing else. You can never justify a token system whereby all parties are put in prison for making their own except for ONE controlling party: that is slavery. All non-paper items of physical value are money once traded, that very MOMENT.
@Darkhorse21x if I discovered the power to be the One, to bend and remove the rules, then I would not take the power to be the One. I disbelieve in all central control. It is for that reason I would expose the methods to all so all could have the same power, if they are able to handle it. That is also why I share all the math with people who can't do what I've done in market-predicting so we all can do it.
The power to be one is not power over others. If you have the power of one, then why would u need power over others as they would be powerless to effect u?
Once you discover your "oneness", then the ego is dissolved and there is no need to compete because U come to realize that I am another version of you and you are another version of me so conflict is pointless.
Endless motion in harmony is the one.
I am surprised that money would still interest U beyond means 2 an end.
@Darkhorse21x No, the power of the One is power over others because it is power over everything. If I have the power of the One my purpose is to make others have the same Power. Ego is not dissolved: ego is a fiction of a simple mind from more than 100 years ago. The mind is more complex than ego, super-ego and id. No one is another version of me: I see fragments at best in some, mostly people are unequal to me in every way. All life is a means to an end, that interests me for survival.
The power of one cannot be the power over others as there ARE NO OTHERS. (There is no spoon). There is only one consciousness of which you are a part. Separation of self is an illusion. I am U and U are me. Becoming one is a realization of this in it's entirety.
Your vision is competing powers which is contradictory to the concept of one. The ego is strong in U. You do not have a life, U R life. There is no death. Your fear of it is irrational ego driven fantasy.
@Darkhorse21x That is a fraud: there are always others. Always will be, always must be. To be no others requires there be no Self. The Self is a product of the genetic diversity of a population, many others. Fraud is in play: fraud is the act of others upon the Self, proving others exist. There is no single collective consciousness, there are several at war with each other today. I know which part I belong to, which is NOT all of them. Your concept of "one" is contradicting reality.
@Darkhorse21x That is a fraud: there are always others. Always will be, always must be. To be no others requires there be no Self. The Self is a product of the genetic diversity of a population, many others. Fraud is in play: fraud is the act of others upon the Self, proving others exist. There is no single collective consciousness, there are several at war with each other today. I know which part I belong to, which is NOT all of them. Your concept of "one" is contradicting reality.
@Darkhorse21x That is a fraud: there are always others. Always will be, always must be. To be no others requires there be no Self. The Self is a product of the genetic diversity of a population, many others. Fraud is in play: fraud is the act of others upon the Self, proving others exist. There is no single collective consciousness, there are several at war with each other today. I know which part I belong to, which is NOT all of them. Your concept of "one" is contradicting reality
@Darkhorse21x I have no ego driven fantasies. There is no fantasy. No Ego. No irrationality. Your very concept of "ego" is itself a fraud. There are only facts: survival, flow, storage, fraud, counter-attack, past, future & conflict. That's true reality - no fantasy, no fiction, no ego, no irrationality. Cold hard facts
@Darkhorse21x Humans are not conditioned for leaders, they are BORN to it. It can't be conditioned out that I can see. Something fundamentally better needs to be found or made before birth to avoid this. Nothing else works. In the end of the Matrix Neo is only defending humanity, NOT himself - I can't see how you got the opposite conclusion. The Matrix IS bad - it's a prison. There is no other conclusion. No one overcomes reality - the analogy to the Matrix ends there.
There is NO ONE else that Neo is defending. Have U seen the Matrix? There is only neo in the scene, no puppies, no women, no people, ONLY NEO. This is fundamental to the movie. If you interpret it otherwise it means that U R waiting for some)one) to come and protect U.
There is no good or bad, there only is. Cipher (first name Lou) likes the matrix. Good and bad are subjective opinions that U put in a situation and as such DO NOT EXIST. There is no spoon.
@Darkhorse21x I've seen the movie many times - Neo enters the Matrix ONLY to stop the war, to bring Peace. That is not for himself, only for Others. He is determined ONLY to enter for that purpose and says so CLEARLY. Your missing this is a fraud or a mistake. It is opposite to the facts of presentation.ONLY humanity, NOT NEO - he is acting to the benefit of everyone who is NOT NEO in the most explicit terms. There is good, there is bad. Bad is harmful: there is that spoon, cold hard fact
@Darkhorse21x I've seen the movie many times - Neo enters the Matrix ONLY to stop the war, to bring Peace. That is not for himself, only for Others. He is determined ONLY to enter for that purpose and says so CLEARLY. Your missing this is a fraud or a mistake. It is opposite to the facts of presentation.ONLY humanity, NOT NEO - he is acting to the benefit of everyone who is NOT NEO in the most explicit terms. There is good, there is bad. Bad is harmful: there is that spoon, cold hard fact
Neo is trying to "stop the war within". You have only externalized the essential internal conflict in the movie. Control over others is an illusion. The ONLY control you have is over yourself. The fact that other people and an external world exist in the movie are just dramatic devices. Focus on the dialogue. It only ever refers to how the external world affects the individual. The fact that it affects many individuals is the source of your confusion. The movie is just about U.
@Darkhorse21x There is no war within: all wars are external. Control over others is the only reality that's ever existed. You die the moment you can't control what's around you, including other people. It's a fact of reality - the purpose for things like camouflage, teeth, claws & ears. Your entire perception of reality is a fraud to come to the opposite conclusion, even about the Matrix. The movie is about everything you say it isn't. It's sad you are mentally blocked from the truth.
Any external war is the result of the egos inability to overcome its illusion that it does not actually have any control over u until u give your consent. U do not have a life, I R life. Does a blind, mute paraplegic have any control over anyone. Is he/she not alive in your eyes? Does the tree have teeth and claws? Is a tree alive?
Your perception of reality is extremely limited and therefore your opinions are frauds. The entire movie is about "The One", the individual.
@Darkhorse21x Never. An external war is always the conflict of resources, ego is not anything but fiction - it has no factor whatsoever. When resources are not in conflict war does NOT happen. Your entire perception of reality is a fraud - you won't get far if that's your true belief and not just an argument you posed for the sake of seeing how people respond to nonsense.
yur external war is the result of yur inability to cope with yur egos wants. resources are inanimate objects and as such cannot be in conflict with one another. This should be self evident to a rational human.
It is the arbitrary association and relationships that humans attach to resources which is the cause of all conflicts and this association is a product of the ego.
If U want what I have, U must generate the conflict to get it if I am unwilling to share it with U. Get it yet?
@Darkhorse21x There is no ego. No ego wants. None. Fiction. All of it. For all humans.
Inanimate objects REACT with each other chemically & with isotopes: nothing is truly inanimate just because it is not alive. Human associations are not arbitrary either: we are forced by our DNA, hormones, temperatures, everything, to act precisely as we do. If I want what you have, I'll change YOUR nature to suicide yourself or drop all that you have. I have that ability but you can't understand it.
The reactions of inanimate objects do NOT make them animate. Water does not care that it turns to steam in the presence of radio active isotopes, it just does. Water does not care that it turns to ice when it "reacts" with cold steel. Animators GIVE cartoon characters human characteristics to ANIMATE them. Without egoic reactions, the cartoon characters would be just the background scenery.
We are not forced to do anything other than eat, drink, sleep, fuck and breathe.
You are extremely insane if you believe that you could convince me to do ANYTHING against my will.
Lets put your BS 2 the test. Make me give up everything I have 2 U in a last will and testament and then commit suicide. If you cannot do so in 24 hours, then U agree to retract your BS statements. Agreed?
You have demonstrated yourself to be an absolute lunatic and not worthy of civil discourse with an adversary as skilled as I have demonstrated myself 2 B.
@Darkhorse21x as for YOU or anyone else who is a threat to me the alternate is EASY. I JUST put a target in a situation where the options are suicide or torture: the person will NOT pick torture for long. It's very, very easy to put someone else into this position. You are done and marked for a filter "youtubefucktard" from now on
Labor Unions produce NOTHING, they are nothing but thugs and parasites that suck the lifeblood from our economy, productive businesses AND employees. There is NO justification whatsoever for labor unions to exist into perpetuity!
Public sector Labor Unions are a perversion that cannot be permitted to exist. EVERYONE is free to seek employment with anyone or work for themselves, it is neither reasonable nor prudent to rely on government or business to provide anything beyond the agreed wages.
I'm following what Mr. FreeDomainRadio says right up until the end where he says, "democracy is a travesty of justice" -- wtf??
The USA is not a "democracy" but a Federal Constitutional Republic, and America has done more in all of history to bring liberty, prosperity and hope to the entire world. Why else would so many people the world-over risk their lives and leave their homes, their families, to come here? If you disagree I will give you a one-way ticket to move to another country.
@VailPatriot Democracy IS a travesty of justice. It's simply tyranny of the majority. We may have once had a constitutional republic (democracy once-removed), but we have it in name only now. The Constitution has been trampled on since Lincoln, at least.
Humanity can do better, but it likely won't be in our lifetimes unfortunately..
@ytgv3fc7 So, a majority which can vote away all rights of a minority is not tyranny? Maybe you have a different definition of tyranny than I do. Individual rights trump majority rule.
@rfecteau no, it is not a tyranny. A majority that can be limited, controlled or destroyed by a minority is the only alternative & that is a tyranny. Individual rights are important too but individual rights are always destroyed when the majority rights are destroyed.
@rfecteau I've already done the learning - it's time you caught up. Zero fallacies, only truth - deprivation of the majority by the minority IS tyranny, slavery, loss of freedom, the ruination of all society.
@VailPatriot If a madman is raping his group of captive women and I offer them a new life where they only have to cook and clean for me of course they'd flee to my "paradise" It's still wrong to force women to cook and clean. We're so used to our system that we think it impossible to do better.
There is no justification whatsoever for Labor Unions to exist into perpetuity. Labor Unions are formed for the purpose of collective bargaining. Once that bargaining is completed, the Union should be dissolved, NOT funded forever like some bad government program. Instead, employees are duped into funding Unions for their entire working career, as if there is no limit to what they can or should force their employers to give them or do for them.
@VailPatriot collective bargaining needs to be enforced constantly, to ensure that rules are not broken. Just like management / owners constantly have to check that workers are actually working & production quality is actually up to par. The union can't ever dissolve any more than management can stop checking for quality & production rates.
1.) Now the teachers get a taste of their own statist medicine; they know what state coercion feels like...like every time I pay taxes.
2.) Barring State bankruptcy means the state will likely extort MORE money (via taxation of its people, i.e. YOU) in order to pay for debts incurred by its insane spending habits. Again, the people are screwed.
@PortlandsTransport you're naive if you think the top of government (i.e. politicians) will allow themselves to be "dismantled". They will take everyone down with them before they go.
Besides it's not like Wisconsin is an example of the bottom being dismantled. This is statists fighting amongst themselves over limited resources. The state has grown too big, so it either needs more resources to grow or it needs to cut it's need for resources.
"everyone has had to eat a massive shit sandwich", like bank of america, the Koch brothers. No, It's not equal suffering going around. and lets not forget why we are in this mess.
@Anothercoilgun no, fraud is the problem, coupled with theft. Much of it happened outside of government & was then used to put people into government. The corporate fraud & theft came first.
Government is a past/future tense verb or sometimes a noun but it is NEVER the object.
It is ALWAYS, "The Government of .........something".
The something is the company, the object.
If U rail against government then U R no threat as it is evident that U R unaware of the distinction and are essentially, like Don Quixote, "Tilting at Windmills".
Learn the contracts (code) and U can free yurself.
There is no right to collective bargaining. Collective bargaining is a legislated privilege given to unions by friendly lawmakers.
The federal courts have been very clear on this. A federal district court in North Carolina put it quite eloquently in a decision upholding the Tar Heel States law prohibiting public-sector bargaining, saying, “All citizens have the right to associate in groups to advocate their special interests to the government.
@northpal2 --- It is something entirely different to grant any one interest group special status and access to the decision-making process.”
A law granting public-sector unions monopoly bargaining privileges gives a union, a special interest group, two bites at the apple. First, it uses its political clout to elect public officials. Then it negotiates with the very same officials.
Stefan always ignores the obscene profits made by the corporations, much of it made by tax breaks, he always ignores the cost of keeping an empire, he always ignores the pensions and health benefits that the legislators themselves get.
@PortlandsTransport Corporations, Unions, politicians are symbiotic parasites – sometimes cooperatively consuming the life blood of the people. When they finally turn the people into a skeletal carcass – they will turn on themselves and that is what you are seeing.
@PortlandsTransport Corporations are creations of the State and therefore just as much part of the State as public employee unions. Which are in fact corporations --- except they garner a monopolistic position. Other corporations use the law to restrict competition or make it very difficult for potential competitors to enter the market. It is a corrupt system the feeds off the taxpayers.
@49Falcon corporations can exist with no state at all, they are not created by it. They are not granted limited liability, everyone has limited liability until liability is granted by a state, a collective governance group of people. Any collective group acting for commerce IS a corporation. it's not a function of liability, only synchronized action, collective ownership & funds. Nothing about that requires a state, theoretically or actually.
@ytgv3fc7 That may be but, there were no corporations in the US (except for limited purposes and existence) that were not a creation of the state which in some cases was a corporation itself. Originally the Crown granted charters (corporations) to grant some special authority, monopoly or exclusive trade/market rights. It was common for the English Crown to do this. So in essence it is an arm of the State – in a public/private partnership.
@Darkhorse21x If he's the equivalent of a beggar, why did you target him for your vitriol, as opposed to targeting a beggar? Your comment is barely more articulate than rank cursing. What does it even mean to have a childish view of reality, and how would you justify this claim? These children must be geniuses.
@Darkhorse21x I don't agree that Stefan has a "childish" view at all, actually I don't agree with any of your points, unless your making them as a sarcastic remark.
WOW pod casts. So he is a beggar from many street corners. Any best sellers yet? Any top 10 sellers yet? Any appearances on Oprah's book club? No, No and No.
Hardly impressive.
I am the equivalent of the guy who designed the city infrastructure that the beggar pleads from.
@Darkhorse21x Then Iron Maiden isn't an impressive band because they have not made the top 10 sellers list and they haven't made it on the Oprah show yet. If you designed the city infrastructure that the beggar pleads from does that mean you designed Youtube? Or podcasts in general? Was that your idea?
@andrewh817 LOLOLOLOL. Ya, go ahead and compare Stef to Iron Maiden. Go to an Iron Maiden concert and say that and see how long it takes to get yur @zz kik'd. ROTFLMAO! Does stef have multi million album/disc sales? NO! Can Stef sell millions of T Shirts with his image on them? NO! Can Stef sellout massive stadiums around the world? NO! UR so owned it is pitiful. U asked what I represent and I told U. Your attempts at logic and reason are childlike at best. Pick up your game.
In Queensland Australia, the government could not afford to pay the back-pay of indigenous people for twenty years they "protected it" and decided not to pay.
I don't trust governments. I pay practically zero tax and am my own boss.
@tyandambika Increasing taxes is not a sustainable solution for the financial crisis. Tax increases lower productivity and make it harder for jobs to be created. By the way....... what income bracket do you think creates the most jobs?
you are a perfect little slave...exactly what the corporations, banks and state desire of you. They barely need violence here at home because the broken serfs such as yourself defend the very structure that you think you hate.
@Darkhorse21x That is why I used the term pressure rather than coercion.
I don't know you opinions as I haven't read many of your post.
People get pressured into bad contracts to protect their families from going homeless or hungry. I personally feel that people should take responsibility for these contracts. However, whenever any group, gov't or private business, starts exploiting people I feel that we should object. An exploitative contract is always exploitative even if you willingly signed
We can discuss the exploitive nature of the contract but we cannot speak of it as theft (As Stef mistakenly does) as there is NO coercion at the time the contract was entered into.
We can discuss the relative value of the benefits vs. the taxes paid, but to call taxes theft is intellectual bankruptcy.
Contract negation.
1. Minor 18 y/o
2. Lunacy. Mental capacity
3.Coercion. Threat of harm
4. Impairment. Under influence of drugs or alcohol.
@Darkhorse21x I'm fine, I do the best I can, better than most, I agree that the state is not real, nor are the corporations. They are the mass delusions of others. i have a brilliant way to gauge the validity of the actions of others, here it is: it is immoral for one person. to initiate force against another person. That's it. That one rule is a great BS detector, and keeps me immune from falling for the mainstream media or the delusions of most statists.
"Governments" don't sell products? Tell that to the Egyptians who are getting tear gassed.
The space shuttle discovery just came back to earth and I am quite sure that there is a cargo arm on board that was made and sold by "The Company Called CANADA"
U R so owned.
Go to the US SEC Home Page and do a CIK look up for CANADA as the company name and tell me when you find that CANADA is a listed Company.
Government is a concept. A noun or a verb but NEVER an object. Free your mind.
@Darkhorse21x "cargo arm on board that was made and sold by "The Company Called CANADA""
We made 2 of them.
A Canadian corporation did make them but let's face it, we literally call it the CANAD-ARM so it's not like it's not brand-name identifiable right there. Powerful enough to lift a library, careful enough not to shake any books off the shelf. Yes, we sell products from Crown (gov't) Corporations.
@ytgv3fc7 Just go to the US Sec home page. Forms and Filings: Search for Company Filings Custom Searches: SEC Central Index Key (CEK) CIK Lookup Page: "Enter" CANADA in the Company Name Box Hit the Start Search Button. This pretty much blows Stef out of the water with the fantasy that "The State, Government" exist. Stef can't use smarmy irrelevant allegories to make this one go away. He is so owned on this topic. He always ignores the contracts but you should not. Let Stef wallow.
@Darkhorse21x That detail is unimportant to me. It can never have bearing on my life. The accounts-receivable ability of Canada, a nation with Crown corporations, is what allows income to flow to our nation as a nation, in addition to individual trade across borders & oceans. That's good for my country. I benefit from this in the long term so I do not oppose it. We shall see when it comes to water sources. That will be a potential deal-breaker.
Trust me, the company will do as it pleases to meet it's specific objectives. If that means selling water to whatever company they chose, it will come about.
Water is already a commodity in CANADA. Haven't U ever paid a water bill B 4? There is already a water sharing agreement in place between CAN / US. Drive to BRITISH COLUMBIA and go to KOOKANUSA lake, Look at the name and maybe U will B smart enuf to figure it out.
There is a hydro dam on the US side so the US controls lake levels.
@Darkhorse21x if we draw our own water or collect rain & snow, then no, we do not pay a bill - it is ours to have. We only pay a service fee for delivery via someone else's equipment to tap water or via bottled water, and a fee for sewer transport & processing. This can be within reason. Some price changes may not be but the principle is intact: a service is provided which is not free nor should be. As for the hydro-dam they have to let OUT the water to get power, not keep it. Not my issue.
Wait wait wait wait... did I understand that you, Stefbot, approve of goverment limiting the right of people to voluntarily get together and bargain collectively? Did you have a stroke and become stupid overnight and forget everything you've ever said in video, betray all your values, stop caring about the "gun in the room," or did I misunderstand something?
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youneekk 7 months ago
It's nice to hear some intellectual honesty applied to issues of the day. You made an excellent point in another video where you mention the importance of philosophy in society. Philosophy is what's left when you strip away the biases, opinions, environmental influences and agendas. To learn philosophy is to learn the systematic discovery of truth. Ayn Rand would say to look at the premises of your thoughts. This is missing from 99% of public discourse today.
dudewithopinion 10 months ago
The unions have a right to protest if their collective bargaining rights are taken away. Who the fuck controls most of the resources or controls the monetary system? It certainly isn't labor. It's the bankers and the bosses in the private sector who then gain the most lobbying power over the government time and time again.
PersianPaladin 11 months ago
@PersianPaladin: The public sector unions make their money off the violence of the state. As far as I'm concerned, they have no "right" to bargain for that money, especially in a time where people need all the money they can get and can ill afford massive taxes.
andyissemicool 7 months ago
@PersianPaladin So it nothing to do with state power? That's an interesting point of view you have. There are over 5 million incorporated companies in the US and you are referring to the ones who partner up with buddies in the state. Do you not see that it is the state that is to blame or are you just going to ignore this glaring fact?
strapt313 5 months ago
I'd also advise the people here to not even bother talking to people who believe in the social contract or think "taxation is voluntary". These people obviously are retarded beyond redemption. Reasonable statists support the state because it is needed. Not because they think the state is the moral equivalent to a private company.
DaveElectric 11 months ago
@DaveElectric The state is anti-reason as is evidenced by its coercive nature. Reason does not require coercion.
Beesnchickens 11 months ago
@Beesnchickens Only if you assume reason cannot in anyway shape or form alienate people.
DaveElectric 11 months ago
@DaveElectric just have to get enough people to see something for what it is and the rest who were previously alienated from reason will follow, regardless of whether they actually understand it or not. or maybe, we are doomed to be ignorant as an entire species until we are snuffed out. either way i'm beginning to feel pretentious speaking like this since i really don't have a damn clue about this or anything else really.
Rumplefrumple 11 months ago
@Rumplefrumple It could very well be possible for reason to thrive, but I don't think you understand where I'm coming from. I'm against the state, but I've learned to recognize that some people thrive on statism. "Reason" would alienate these people.
DaveElectric 11 months ago
To Darkhorse
The government is not a company. It exist because old men way back when thought of it as a practical solution to the problem of finding law and order. It's property (and therefore authority) is accumulated because people think it needs it. It wasn't accumulated voluntary in a free market. So right off the back it doesn't make a difference if we have a SSN or are registered as citizens. It's complete circular reasoning anyway to use these articles as a moral arguements.
DaveElectric 11 months ago
Extremely well said.
anarchylogic 11 months ago
Stefan, please please please, challenge this guy, "wonderingmind42", to an online debate. I've watched most of the videos on his channel and i am appalled by his intellectual dishonesty and the people in the comment section who buy into his "ideas". I'm struggling to battle the liberal nincompoops in the comment section. I am very sure that you can roundly school him if he agrees to a debate. Everyone go watch his videos and thumb this up if you agree! /watch?v=GmTYFlB1HX8 or search his name
TheReceptionBand 11 months ago
@TheReceptionBand
Sorry 2 B the one 2 break it 2 U but Stef "has no clothes". He NEVER uses evidence and ALWAYS results to the grade 9 litterary tool known as the allegory to misdirect and mislead sheep like yurself.
There is no state or governments as an entity, only companies. ALL taxes are voluntary and your egoic need to remove responsibility for your actions is at the heart of yur deception.
Stef fears me as he knows that I could hand his ass to him on this topic.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x Taxes are voluntary!? Wow, great news! lol. also, trying to belittle someones philosophical argument by blaming it on ulterior motives is a tactic that should be reserved for TV pundits, it's nothing new, and it does nothing to further the debate. Stef DOES use evidence, and you can point the finger of allegory at any philosopher out there, it doesn't make it true. Also, i couldn't find any links on your profile to any work that you've done(blogs/videos/books).....
TheReceptionBand 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x .... So unless you want to point me in that direction so we can have a constructive debate on your arguments or critiques, then your post was useless. Don't be a troll, yelling sheep! at everyone on youtube is a waste of time and effort.
TheReceptionBand 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x taxes are voluntary? orly? so are you saying that i won't be audited if i falsify my tax return? or that the government won't garnish my wages if i refuse to pay my taxes at all? or that i won't be ultimately imprisoned by the government if i continue to refuse to pay? then if i refuse to be imprisoned i wont be forcibly removed from my home and then incarcerated? if i then decide to physically resist while being arrested i wont get shot or tasered? thanks for the legal advice.
Rumplefrumple 11 months ago
@Rumplefrumple
The founding fathers of America thought it was worth fighting against a tiny bit of taxation and many died on their way to liberty in the process of revolt. Why is fighting against massive taxation and perpetual servitude to banks for your children such a bad idea? Where the founders wrong to reject slavery to the crown?
Beesnchickens 11 months ago
@Beesnchickens not at all, i agree with you completely. it just seems to me that if we were to revolt, a new construct would emerge with the same requirements as the last one. maybe things will change... maybe not. as things are, it looks like we may find out soon enough. if things work out for the better i will see you on the other side, and we can then share a pitcher of beer and reminisce about how silly it all was.
Rumplefrumple 11 months ago
@Beesnchickens
Were they wrong in being slave-owners themselves? Your 'founders' are not infallible.
pulsatingremedy 11 months ago
These workers call for solidarity and support, but as long as they are literally the lap-dogs of the State, far more protected than the average worker, I feel no sympathy for their supposed "loss."
murderbydeath222 11 months ago
sad? These people lived off and continue to live off of tax money that is forcefully obtain at gunpoint!
vutEwa 11 months ago
Where are the shite sandwiches for Goldman Sachs & JP Morgan?
These people got completely UNJUST BENEFITS:
Goldman Sachs (Hank Paulson, Neel Kashkari, Lloyd Blankfein, etc) & JP Morgan (Jamie Dimon, William Daley, etc)
jiveturkeyusa 11 months ago
The state is in principal no different than any other private corporation except that at least in a democratic society the state can be held accountable to a degree by the people.
What you propose with your anarcho-capitalism model is a society that is ruled by tyrannic private corporations, i.e. "states" that have no accountability whatsoever and can exploit people however they want. This is as far away from real freedom and anarchism as it can get.
xknowledgeisfreex 11 months ago 2
@xknowledgeisfreex I think you're overlooking one huge thing: the state is VERY different from a private corp. in that it gets to use force on individuals to transact with it. If I don't like Exxon or GM, I can choose to ignore them and there's not a damn thing they can do about it. The State gets to sieze my propery and/or throw me in jail if I don't want to transact with it...see the difference?
phi50 11 months ago
@phi50
There is NO STATE. That concept is a prison 4 yur mind.
Government is a verb or a noun but NEVER the subject in proper grammar.
You have allowed yourself to be fooled into believing that "The State, The Government" is an object when it is just a concept.
A sliver in your mind.
You enter into all associations with the company of your own free will and accord.
The company only seeks remedy in the court after you have gone into dishonor with the contract. End of.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x There's much merit to what you're saying, but I think you are underestimating the reality of the State. If I refuse to give this 'concept' a piece of what I earn, it will eventually send people with guns to take what it wants. That's more than just a concept, I'm afraid. And I disagree that all associations are entered into freely. This entity forcibly takes a portion of what I earn, without 'ASKING" if I want its 'services'. The individual never gets an chance to opt out.
phi50 11 months ago
@phi50
The company will seek remedy in the courts if U have dishonored your contractual agreements. If you remain in honor then you will be fine. If you do not like the contract you are in, then simply renounce your citizenship and move to another company that suits your needs.
U want the protection of the company yet U do not want the responsibility that comes with accepting that protection. This position is inconsistent and will lead U 2 dishonor. Live in honor. Die with Honor.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@phi50 if you're in Ghana or Nigeria and you ignore Exxon or Shell they will bring out storm-troopers with guns, fully paid for by them. Corporations are their own governments & they do have guns, guards, force ,and will kill. The corporations can seize your property, kill you & detain you with no prior notice, no laws & no reporting to anyone.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@phi50
Does the "State of Germany" (company) have authority over U? Why.
Does the "State of Zimbabwe" (company) have authority over U ? Why.
Can U ignore both of these "States"? Why.
Because these companies do not have your CONSENT, thats why.
Slavery was legally abolished many years ago so don't let anyone convince U otherwise.
Any chains U have are there with your consent.
What is likely is that you are basically "sleep walking" through your life unaware of the contracts U make.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@phi50
Yes, i understand. The state has the monopoly on force. That's why it's important that it is not controlled by capital, but democratically by the people.
In an anarcho-capitalist world the force would belong only to those who can afford it. Only rich people would be able to afford private security, poor people would be completely at the mercy of the rich ones. Therefore there would still be a ruling class and it would not be true anarchism.
xknowledgeisfreex 11 months ago
@xknowledgeisfreex how would the rich get rich? they need to make money by offering a service to people....y would people willingly supply someone with dictatorial aspirations?
fps0chris 11 months ago
@fps0chris
They could also get rich by heritage and it's not so easy to recognize if someone has dictatorial aspirations or not.
Furthermore it would be once again money that determines how much power anyone has, because also a consumer can only buy things if he has money and if he doesn't have money then he cannot exert any kind of influence by boycotting a vendor that has dictatorial aspirations. Rich people would have most of the power.
xknowledgeisfreex 11 months ago
@xknowledgeisfreex
U R correct and a further example is Libya. What is happening is a change in business model from; Sole Proprietorship (Dictator) to a Public Corporation (Democracy)where each Shareholder (Citizen) has one voting share.
Stef is the Emperor who has no clothes. He constantly hides behind irrelevant allegories which are used to divert attention from the fact that he has NO IDEA about what he is talking about.
Stef NEVER refutes with EVIDENCE.
His "armor" is the mighty allegory
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@xknowledgeisfreex
WOW, there is sentient life out there. I was beginning to have my doubts.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
My last boss told me I'd be moved to another department to work twice as hard for zero increase in pay after the last increase in pay was a joke compared to inflation.
Thankfully I buy gold & silver PHYSICAL and was prepared for this.
I told my boss & boss's boss this was unacceptable.
Then got that upper-level boss fired too!
Because it's important to Roshambo for credibility.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
U are wise grasshopper.
U put yurslf in a position where U had a better option than the self deluded masses.
U exercised yur free will and made a choice that was in yur best interests.
Most R unwilling 2 admit that they are the masters of their own demise via their inability to be able to read the code.
The matrix isn't computer code.
The matrix is UCC.
Universal Commercial Code.
This is what "neo" (one) must know.
Neo is the (one), the individual. You, Me, Every ONE.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x I am not The One. I will locate The One if there is one. The closest character I resemble is the Oracle.
I have an intuitive grasp for the future. I just put up more videos showing future prices of silver. That's how it opens. I've been doing this over a year, been getting very good at it.
The code, over-all, of life is like a machine code. It has patterns. /watch?v=KtOv3ufQeB4
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
The oracle is your doctor. "open your mouth and say ahh".
Just like a doctor who says to a patient, "you will never walk again", to stir the internal drive to prove him/her wrong. The Oracle tells "neo"(one) that he is not there yet, to spur him on to achieve his potential.
"Sorry kid, you've got the gift but it looks like your're waiting for something (permission)."
You are Neo, (one). We all are as individuals. I cannot do it 4 U. I can only hold open the door. U must walk thru.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x it's classic AI-terminology. Stefan would know it. The Agent acts on behalf of a set of rules. The Sentinels report values / data. The Oracle is the black box. To get the last answers that no other algorithm has you consult the Oracle (black box application) and it reports back those answers. In The Matrix the Oracle describes the Future. I do that. I am not "The One" but I can of course see the code. All I do is bend people to different code snippets reinforcing gainful futures
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
Saying that you can predict the future by making obvious investments in precious metals is hardly clairvoyance.
Precious metals always gain value in times of political uncertainty and upheaval.
Your reliance on gold and silver is just another prison 4 yur mind. The only thing of monetary value is human labor and even this is somewhat subjective as U must decide what U R worth or others will decide 4 U.
If U do not see yurself as the one, then U R correct. U don't ask anyone, U kno
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x What I am doing is not obvious: what I am doing is showing the price movements on a daily basis. Others are only guessing, they do not understand the math or the fundamentals. I do more than this: I predict the momentum of every moving body part of every person near me, all their correlated emotional levels, and influence all of my environment based on this input, and control those things in others. The stock market play is just a subset of the same skill. Labor can't have
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
Maybe U R one with the universe.
Congratulations on your achievement.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x I doubt I am "one with the universe" but I definitely see what many sheeple do not. Perception is important. Prediction assists perceptual timing & pattern analysis. Our small corner of the universe that is the living world & is further confined to the land-roving mammal world is not that complex in the end.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
If U doubt it then that is your truth. Perception is reality. Just exactly how does prediction assist pattern analysis or perceptual timing, whatever that is? The Your last sentence is jibberish. The world in very complex, at least to us mere mammals.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x pattern analysis is interfered with by frequency distortions, overlapping time-series. Prediction allows removal of each signal from the noise, adding to a model, self-adjusting until the error-margin is so small that survival is assured by using the future-data from the model as reality. By acting faster than others can re-act, by knowing very far in advance, less complexity/energy is required to gather new data for reaction, using prediction at the same time.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x labour can't have the monetary value you claim: money must be a physical thing, an object of trade, and not all skilled labour is equal in need, nor in purpose. Money requires fungibility & long-term store of value. Energy has little long-term store of value as it depletes, labour is merely conversion of chemical energy to heat, motion, information processing in the mind, co-operative efforts. It is not a store of value or item of constant trade.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
Labor is the physical thing you speak of. The physical thing has no value until a human puts their energy into it.
If there were NO humans on Earth then the value of all resources is ZERO.
The POTENTIAL value is infinite.
It is not a silver bar until someone; A: mines the ore, B: Refines the ore, C: creates a useable product.
Therefore the only value added along the way is the mining, refining, smelting etc.
The energy is meant to flow, not to be stored. current=currency
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x untrue. Some things have value instantly and only some things retain value long after human interaction. Books, gold, silver, iron, structural mathematical plans, all have those traits. With no humans the value is still above zero: other life can & will use resources, including plants. Once labour is used once, it has zero lasting value - only non-labour physical objects can transmute value into storage.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
Value as a tangible asset or value as a subjective asset? I speak of value as the tangible asset and not the subjective. We can differ on the value of information contained in a particular book which makes that value subjective.
What be cannot dispute is the labor that went into; planting the tree, cutting the wood, creating the pulp, making the paper, building the press, making the ink, printing the words, binding the book etc.
The real energy that created the book. See the diff?
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
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@Darkhorse21x I'm speaking of tangible assets. Information requires a physical structure & a physical use in the world & is tangible by that merit. The instructions for a computer, hard-wired in another chip, is a tangible physical resource worth all the value the other machine can give you when the two are combined, for example. It is the labor which can be disputed: we don't know how much, if it was efficient, if it paid off in the end. Only the tangible object remains.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x "The energy is meant to flow, not to be stored. current=currency "
Currency is a fraud.
Gold is not currency. It is money. It is meant to be stored and traded, not only to flow. The only reason "currency" flows is because it's a hot-potato fraud we do not need. People are rid of it as fast as possible or are robbed by holding it. We need no such currency. Only money. They are not the same.
Energy & value MUST be stored or civilization crumbles.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
Currency is a measure of human energy. Current flows between the banks of a river, just as currency flows between banks. Hoarding currency (damming) is only representative of potential energy (engineering term) and it is not until the current is released that you can actually create something like electricity (more current),
Flow and constant motion is the key.
Gold is a commodity that is useless in a vault but valuable as a product.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
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@Darkhorse21x Currency is not a measure of human energy. That is a fraud. Currency itself is a fraud. Every aspect you have ever been taught in your life about money being paper is a lie. Currency has only one purpose: to skim your work-production into someone else's production-benefit in terms of buying what they want with money you earned by printing more. That's the whole game. All of it. It is the Matrix. Hoarding currency does not work for that reason: holding GOLD is different.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x gold is something which is not currency: it has value in a vault because it has continued value for trade later outside a vault. All money is a commodity of physical use to be used later & stored before it is used or traded. Paper currency can never be money & gold, silver, platinum can never be anything BUT money. Flow & constant motion are bad: they kill economies & rob people. Savings are too important: flow must stop & remain stopped for efficiency purposes.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
U R missing the point. Currency, be it gold, silver or paper money is just a physical representation of the input labor of humans.
Your point is nonsensical. Are Copper, Titanium and Manganese considered money too? There are rare and "valuable" industrial metals. Why are they not considered money too?
Gold and Silver have industrial applications and are better suited to that than being wasted in a vault somewhere. This is why fiat currency is necessary.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x No, I think you are missing the point. The input is not the important part - the storage is. Humans can input lots of labor with nothing to show for it later - this has no lasting value. Gold, computer chips, carvings, do not have that failure. Copper, titanium & manganese are traded for later use - they are money as a result. Copper is what pennies were made from until copper became too high value & people are now saving the old ones. Pennies are money.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
Input is the MOST IMPORTANT part. Without the input there are no objects of value.Everything you listed, gold, computer chips and carvings do not exist until some human puts their energy into creating them. The object created is a reflection of the effort put into making it so the ONLY true value is the times and effort that went into making it, Pennies do not exist until some person mines the ore, refines the raw material into a useable form, puts the material into a press etc.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x Input is the least important part. Many things are available directly from nature - be it food, water or ores. It's only because of human consumption & wasteful lack of recycling many other things we need are less available by these routes because human input has REMOVED value rather than finding or adding value - pollution, landfills, over-population leading to consumption rates faster than natural restoration rates.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 You should do some more research on landfills. It is a myth that landfills are overflowing, and American pollution levels are better than they were 40 years ago.
joepeeler34 11 months ago
@joepeeler34 I've done PLENTY of research on this - landfills are leaking, overflowing, being expanded, being packed full and then no one's got anywhere left to create more and then stuff gets burned, releasing toxins into the air. This is a non-stop cycle around the world, including America. Don't delude yourself. Every year is worse, your 40 year nonsense is still nonsense. America's worse off than ever before.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x the most important part can never be input - if it can be never stored that input value is zero. It must retain value for decades to thousands of years to have real value. That's what value is. Input is nothing more than a brief flow of energy - much of it wasted on nothing of value even for 10 minutes. Despite your disbelief, raw ore with desired minerals DOES have trade value as well as refined ore, gold, copper, etc.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
You claim that : "the most important part can never be input - if it can be never stored that input value is zero."
Any yet at the end of the week you are looking for a paycheck to get paid for the same labor you just previously claimed had ZERO VALUE.
U better go back and rethink your position as you have just officially put your head up your own ass with that comment.
It should now finally be blatantly obvious to all that your logic and reason are no match for my rapier wit.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x no, at the end of the week I am looking at no such thing.
At the end of the week I am looking at a debt owed to me and debt-notes are allocated. Those debt notes have no value.
It is only by immediately swapping all those debt notes for valuables like food & gold that I can retain anything. If I do not do this they are zero. Zero value, lots of work for nothing. Only you have inserted your head deep into your own Anus on this one.
Paper is not money, pay = zero in paper.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
The value of legal tender is represented NOT in the inanimate object of Earth but in the ONLY infinitely renewable resource, which is human labor. YOU are the collateral for legal tender. Your Birth Certificate is the BOND upon which the loan is drawn. The BIRTH REGISTRATION makes U a citizen of the company and eligible to receive benefits to a certain basic level. The SS/SIN #'s allow U the benefit of acting in commerce and receive a higher benefit level. Your value = wage.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x I see you are the one missing the point. There's no such thing as wasting in a vault: when gold, silver, copper, anything, is put in a vault that is the OPTIMAL use for it. Not a waste but the LEAST wasteful use - just like storing food from good crop yields so that when crops DON'T go well you still have food so you don't go hungry. Storing money for later is required so you have some later with NO other way of using any to trade. Only an idiot does none of this. A hungry one
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
U R missing the point. Gold sitting in a vault is ONLY potential. Until it is put into some useful service it is absolutely wasted. What "value"is your car siting in your drive way for it's entire existence? Nothing! Not until U actually use the car as a means of transportation is it of any true value. Aesthetic value is useless. Sure it may be nice to "look at", but that too is subjective and based upon personal preference. Looking at it wont get U from point A to point B.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x You are missing the point: the potential for traded goods is the MOST IMPORTANT quality - once it's used if it's not recycled it has no lasting value to anyone. The potential gives OPTIONS. Those options & potential are the HIGHEST importance, not the least. By USING a car I wear it out & consume gas. By having it in good condition & fueled I have the POTENTIAL to move where I need without first knowing where that is.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x Money is a storehouse of value. It's value while not being spent is to give the individual security.
joepeeler34 11 months ago
@joepeeler34
There is no security in stored value. Nearly everyone who dies, dies with excess value stored in a vault or some equivalent somewhere. So your statement about stored value as security is falsified. It can give you the sense of security and that is just an illusion of your mind. If your money is in a bank and you have no access to it and a mugger wants $500 or he will take your life, how can the $1,000,000 you have in the bank protect U?
It cannot.
It is an illusion.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x you have no valid reason for why fiat currency is necessary: fiat currency is theft and that theft is not necessary. The instant I am forced to use, even to receive once for pay, in a fiat currency, I am a slave. Only that can make me a slave, nothing else. You can never justify a token system whereby all parties are put in prison for making their own except for ONE controlling party: that is slavery. All non-paper items of physical value are money once traded, that very MOMENT.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x You're a loon & I'm ignoring you from now on. There's no such thing as infinitely renewable resources, especially not human labour.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x if I discovered the power to be the One, to bend and remove the rules, then I would not take the power to be the One. I disbelieve in all central control. It is for that reason I would expose the methods to all so all could have the same power, if they are able to handle it. That is also why I share all the math with people who can't do what I've done in market-predicting so we all can do it.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
The power to be one is not power over others. If you have the power of one, then why would u need power over others as they would be powerless to effect u?
Once you discover your "oneness", then the ego is dissolved and there is no need to compete because U come to realize that I am another version of you and you are another version of me so conflict is pointless.
Endless motion in harmony is the one.
I am surprised that money would still interest U beyond means 2 an end.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x No, the power of the One is power over others because it is power over everything. If I have the power of the One my purpose is to make others have the same Power. Ego is not dissolved: ego is a fiction of a simple mind from more than 100 years ago. The mind is more complex than ego, super-ego and id. No one is another version of me: I see fragments at best in some, mostly people are unequal to me in every way. All life is a means to an end, that interests me for survival.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
The power of one cannot be the power over others as there ARE NO OTHERS. (There is no spoon). There is only one consciousness of which you are a part. Separation of self is an illusion. I am U and U are me. Becoming one is a realization of this in it's entirety.
Your vision is competing powers which is contradictory to the concept of one. The ego is strong in U. You do not have a life, U R life. There is no death. Your fear of it is irrational ego driven fantasy.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x That is a fraud: there are always others. Always will be, always must be. To be no others requires there be no Self. The Self is a product of the genetic diversity of a population, many others. Fraud is in play: fraud is the act of others upon the Self, proving others exist. There is no single collective consciousness, there are several at war with each other today. I know which part I belong to, which is NOT all of them. Your concept of "one" is contradicting reality.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x That is a fraud: there are always others. Always will be, always must be. To be no others requires there be no Self. The Self is a product of the genetic diversity of a population, many others. Fraud is in play: fraud is the act of others upon the Self, proving others exist. There is no single collective consciousness, there are several at war with each other today. I know which part I belong to, which is NOT all of them. Your concept of "one" is contradicting reality.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
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@Darkhorse21x That is a fraud: there are always others. Always will be, always must be. To be no others requires there be no Self. The Self is a product of the genetic diversity of a population, many others. Fraud is in play: fraud is the act of others upon the Self, proving others exist. There is no single collective consciousness, there are several at war with each other today. I know which part I belong to, which is NOT all of them. Your concept of "one" is contradicting reality
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
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@Darkhorse21x I have no ego driven fantasies. There is no fantasy. No Ego. No irrationality. Your very concept of "ego" is itself a fraud. There are only facts: survival, flow, storage, fraud, counter-attack, past, future & conflict. That's true reality - no fantasy, no fiction, no ego, no irrationality. Cold hard facts
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
The problem with humans is that they have been conditioned to believe in leaders. The One, Jesus will save me, etc.
It sounds like U R waiting for something kid.
R U waiting for "The One" to come and save U?
The end of the matrix, Neo is ONLY defending himself. No one Else, just himself.
This is the meaning of the movie.
You will be free when U learn to defend yurself.
The matrix is neither good nor bad, it just is.
What matters is how you overcome it.
Either U do or U don't.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x Humans are not conditioned for leaders, they are BORN to it. It can't be conditioned out that I can see. Something fundamentally better needs to be found or made before birth to avoid this. Nothing else works. In the end of the Matrix Neo is only defending humanity, NOT himself - I can't see how you got the opposite conclusion. The Matrix IS bad - it's a prison. There is no other conclusion. No one overcomes reality - the analogy to the Matrix ends there.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
There is NO ONE else that Neo is defending. Have U seen the Matrix? There is only neo in the scene, no puppies, no women, no people, ONLY NEO. This is fundamental to the movie. If you interpret it otherwise it means that U R waiting for some)one) to come and protect U.
There is no good or bad, there only is. Cipher (first name Lou) likes the matrix. Good and bad are subjective opinions that U put in a situation and as such DO NOT EXIST. There is no spoon.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x I've seen the movie many times - Neo enters the Matrix ONLY to stop the war, to bring Peace. That is not for himself, only for Others. He is determined ONLY to enter for that purpose and says so CLEARLY. Your missing this is a fraud or a mistake. It is opposite to the facts of presentation.ONLY humanity, NOT NEO - he is acting to the benefit of everyone who is NOT NEO in the most explicit terms. There is good, there is bad. Bad is harmful: there is that spoon, cold hard fact
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x I've seen the movie many times - Neo enters the Matrix ONLY to stop the war, to bring Peace. That is not for himself, only for Others. He is determined ONLY to enter for that purpose and says so CLEARLY. Your missing this is a fraud or a mistake. It is opposite to the facts of presentation.ONLY humanity, NOT NEO - he is acting to the benefit of everyone who is NOT NEO in the most explicit terms. There is good, there is bad. Bad is harmful: there is that spoon, cold hard fact
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
Neo is trying to "stop the war within". You have only externalized the essential internal conflict in the movie. Control over others is an illusion. The ONLY control you have is over yourself. The fact that other people and an external world exist in the movie are just dramatic devices. Focus on the dialogue. It only ever refers to how the external world affects the individual. The fact that it affects many individuals is the source of your confusion. The movie is just about U.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x There is no war within: all wars are external. Control over others is the only reality that's ever existed. You die the moment you can't control what's around you, including other people. It's a fact of reality - the purpose for things like camouflage, teeth, claws & ears. Your entire perception of reality is a fraud to come to the opposite conclusion, even about the Matrix. The movie is about everything you say it isn't. It's sad you are mentally blocked from the truth.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
Any external war is the result of the egos inability to overcome its illusion that it does not actually have any control over u until u give your consent. U do not have a life, I R life. Does a blind, mute paraplegic have any control over anyone. Is he/she not alive in your eyes? Does the tree have teeth and claws? Is a tree alive?
Your perception of reality is extremely limited and therefore your opinions are frauds. The entire movie is about "The One", the individual.
Good Luck
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x Never. An external war is always the conflict of resources, ego is not anything but fiction - it has no factor whatsoever. When resources are not in conflict war does NOT happen. Your entire perception of reality is a fraud - you won't get far if that's your true belief and not just an argument you posed for the sake of seeing how people respond to nonsense.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
yur external war is the result of yur inability to cope with yur egos wants. resources are inanimate objects and as such cannot be in conflict with one another. This should be self evident to a rational human.
It is the arbitrary association and relationships that humans attach to resources which is the cause of all conflicts and this association is a product of the ego.
If U want what I have, U must generate the conflict to get it if I am unwilling to share it with U. Get it yet?
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x There is no ego. No ego wants. None. Fiction. All of it. For all humans.
Inanimate objects REACT with each other chemically & with isotopes: nothing is truly inanimate just because it is not alive. Human associations are not arbitrary either: we are forced by our DNA, hormones, temperatures, everything, to act precisely as we do. If I want what you have, I'll change YOUR nature to suicide yourself or drop all that you have. I have that ability but you can't understand it.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
The reactions of inanimate objects do NOT make them animate. Water does not care that it turns to steam in the presence of radio active isotopes, it just does. Water does not care that it turns to ice when it "reacts" with cold steel. Animators GIVE cartoon characters human characteristics to ANIMATE them. Without egoic reactions, the cartoon characters would be just the background scenery.
We are not forced to do anything other than eat, drink, sleep, fuck and breathe.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
You are extremely insane if you believe that you could convince me to do ANYTHING against my will.
Lets put your BS 2 the test. Make me give up everything I have 2 U in a last will and testament and then commit suicide. If you cannot do so in 24 hours, then U agree to retract your BS statements. Agreed?
You have demonstrated yourself to be an absolute lunatic and not worthy of civil discourse with an adversary as skilled as I have demonstrated myself 2 B.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
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ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x as for YOU or anyone else who is a threat to me the alternate is EASY. I JUST put a target in a situation where the options are suicide or torture: the person will NOT pick torture for long. It's very, very easy to put someone else into this position. You are done and marked for a filter "youtubefucktard" from now on
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
Your statement about how people are going to find out that you can't hide in the government from this evil system reminded me of this article:
armytimes. com/news/2011/03/military-contingency-plan-government-shutdown-031111w/
basically military people are going to be required to work without pay
andrewh817 11 months ago
Labor Unions produce NOTHING, they are nothing but thugs and parasites that suck the lifeblood from our economy, productive businesses AND employees. There is NO justification whatsoever for labor unions to exist into perpetuity!
Public sector Labor Unions are a perversion that cannot be permitted to exist. EVERYONE is free to seek employment with anyone or work for themselves, it is neither reasonable nor prudent to rely on government or business to provide anything beyond the agreed wages.
VailPatriot 11 months ago
I'm following what Mr. FreeDomainRadio says right up until the end where he says, "democracy is a travesty of justice" -- wtf??
The USA is not a "democracy" but a Federal Constitutional Republic, and America has done more in all of history to bring liberty, prosperity and hope to the entire world. Why else would so many people the world-over risk their lives and leave their homes, their families, to come here? If you disagree I will give you a one-way ticket to move to another country.
VailPatriot 11 months ago
@VailPatriot Democracy IS a travesty of justice. It's simply tyranny of the majority. We may have once had a constitutional republic (democracy once-removed), but we have it in name only now. The Constitution has been trampled on since Lincoln, at least.
Humanity can do better, but it likely won't be in our lifetimes unfortunately..
rfecteau 11 months ago
@rfecteau "tyranny by the majority" is a concept of lies.
The majority's will can not be tyranny any more than being fed is tyranny instead of being starved. It's nonsense of the highest order.
If the majority's will is not met then it's disaster, slavery and evil.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 So, a majority which can vote away all rights of a minority is not tyranny? Maybe you have a different definition of tyranny than I do. Individual rights trump majority rule.
rfecteau 11 months ago
@rfecteau no, it is not a tyranny. A majority that can be limited, controlled or destroyed by a minority is the only alternative & that is a tyranny. Individual rights are important too but individual rights are always destroyed when the majority rights are destroyed.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 I can't even begin to point out all the fallacies you just stated. Please read some Bastiat and Rothbard. There's a lot for you to learn.
rfecteau 11 months ago
@rfecteau I've already done the learning - it's time you caught up. Zero fallacies, only truth - deprivation of the majority by the minority IS tyranny, slavery, loss of freedom, the ruination of all society.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@rfecteau Thanks for suggesting Bastiat and Rothbard. I owe a great intellectual debt to those two men.
DanMorin007 11 months ago
@VailPatriot If a madman is raping his group of captive women and I offer them a new life where they only have to cook and clean for me of course they'd flee to my "paradise" It's still wrong to force women to cook and clean. We're so used to our system that we think it impossible to do better.
BrainInSkull 11 months ago
There is no justification whatsoever for Labor Unions to exist into perpetuity. Labor Unions are formed for the purpose of collective bargaining. Once that bargaining is completed, the Union should be dissolved, NOT funded forever like some bad government program. Instead, employees are duped into funding Unions for their entire working career, as if there is no limit to what they can or should force their employers to give them or do for them.
VailPatriot 11 months ago
@VailPatriot collective bargaining needs to be enforced constantly, to ensure that rules are not broken. Just like management / owners constantly have to check that workers are actually working & production quality is actually up to par. The union can't ever dissolve any more than management can stop checking for quality & production rates.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
1.) Now the teachers get a taste of their own statist medicine; they know what state coercion feels like...like every time I pay taxes.
2.) Barring State bankruptcy means the state will likely extort MORE money (via taxation of its people, i.e. YOU) in order to pay for debts incurred by its insane spending habits. Again, the people are screwed.
RodCornholio 11 months ago
I think that Stefan's philosophy could work in a utopia environment,the consciousness of mankind is still light years from achieving that.
I agree that the government sucks the blood out of everything, no doubt.
But to dismantle the government, you need to start at the top, not the bottom.
To put forth the argument that the unions are the problem is basically dishonest.
PortlandsTransport 11 months ago
@PortlandsTransport you're naive if you think the top of government (i.e. politicians) will allow themselves to be "dismantled". They will take everyone down with them before they go.
Besides it's not like Wisconsin is an example of the bottom being dismantled. This is statists fighting amongst themselves over limited resources. The state has grown too big, so it either needs more resources to grow or it needs to cut it's need for resources.
aletoledo1 11 months ago
@aletoledo1 Yes, I agree, but in that case I would be willing to go down! It would be worth it!
PortlandsTransport 11 months ago
Such true words " democracy is a travesty of justice".
landlockedviking 11 months ago
"everyone has had to eat a massive shit sandwich", like bank of america, the Koch brothers. No, It's not equal suffering going around. and lets not forget why we are in this mess.
peoplepowered1 11 months ago
Government control IS the problem.
Anothercoilgun 11 months ago
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@Anothercoilgun no, fraud is the problem, coupled with theft. Much of it happened outside of government & was then used to put people into government. The corporate fraud & theft came first.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
There is no "government" (spoon).
Government is a past/future tense verb or sometimes a noun but it is NEVER the object.
It is ALWAYS, "The Government of .........something".
The something is the company, the object.
If U rail against government then U R no threat as it is evident that U R unaware of the distinction and are essentially, like Don Quixote, "Tilting at Windmills".
Learn the contracts (code) and U can free yurself.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
There is no right to collective bargaining. Collective bargaining is a legislated privilege given to unions by friendly lawmakers.
The federal courts have been very clear on this. A federal district court in North Carolina put it quite eloquently in a decision upholding the Tar Heel States law prohibiting public-sector bargaining, saying, “All citizens have the right to associate in groups to advocate their special interests to the government.
northpal2 11 months ago
@northpal2 --- It is something entirely different to grant any one interest group special status and access to the decision-making process.”
A law granting public-sector unions monopoly bargaining privileges gives a union, a special interest group, two bites at the apple. First, it uses its political clout to elect public officials. Then it negotiates with the very same officials.
northpal2 11 months ago
Stefan always ignores the obscene profits made by the corporations, much of it made by tax breaks, he always ignores the cost of keeping an empire, he always ignores the pensions and health benefits that the legislators themselves get.
Stefan has been disappointing me lately.
He is blinded by his own ideology.
PortlandsTransport 11 months ago 2
@PortlandsTransport Corporations, Unions, politicians are symbiotic parasites – sometimes cooperatively consuming the life blood of the people. When they finally turn the people into a skeletal carcass – they will turn on themselves and that is what you are seeing.
49Falcon 11 months ago
@PortlandsTransport Corporations are creations of the State and therefore just as much part of the State as public employee unions. Which are in fact corporations --- except they garner a monopolistic position. Other corporations use the law to restrict competition or make it very difficult for potential competitors to enter the market. It is a corrupt system the feeds off the taxpayers.
49Falcon 11 months ago
@49Falcon I agree with all those points you brought up!
PortlandsTransport 11 months ago
@49Falcon corporations can exist with no state at all, they are not created by it. They are not granted limited liability, everyone has limited liability until liability is granted by a state, a collective governance group of people. Any collective group acting for commerce IS a corporation. it's not a function of liability, only synchronized action, collective ownership & funds. Nothing about that requires a state, theoretically or actually.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 That may be but, there were no corporations in the US (except for limited purposes and existence) that were not a creation of the state which in some cases was a corporation itself. Originally the Crown granted charters (corporations) to grant some special authority, monopoly or exclusive trade/market rights. It was common for the English Crown to do this. So in essence it is an arm of the State – in a public/private partnership.
49Falcon 11 months ago
@49Falcon good point, partnership is indeed there & historical
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@PortlandsTransport
Stef has a childish view of reality.
Stef always ignores due process of law.
Stef ignores that the state does not exist.
Stef is the equivalent of the beggar in the corner asking 4 yur change.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x If he's the equivalent of a beggar, why did you target him for your vitriol, as opposed to targeting a beggar? Your comment is barely more articulate than rank cursing. What does it even mean to have a childish view of reality, and how would you justify this claim? These children must be geniuses.
clemonsx90 11 months ago
@clemonsx90
Stef is childish in that he is ignoring the contracts that he has signed.
Stef is unwilling to put his theory to the test (i.e. challenge the authority of the company), therefore he is also a coward.
I on the other hand take my challenge of the company's authority to an actual court of law.
I am not a Statist as "the State" does not exist. It is a prison 4 your mind.
I walk the walk and Stef acts like a spoiled brat.
I have learned to (like neo) to "read the code".
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x Are you that guy who called into the Sunday show a couple of weeks ago?
andrewh817 11 months ago
@andrewh817
No.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x I don't agree that Stefan has a "childish" view at all, actually I don't agree with any of your points, unless your making them as a sarcastic remark.
PortlandsTransport 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x Yeah he's like the beggar on the corner who's put out thousands of podcasts and several books. What are you the equivalent of?
andrewh817 11 months ago
@andrewh817
WOW pod casts. So he is a beggar from many street corners. Any best sellers yet? Any top 10 sellers yet? Any appearances on Oprah's book club? No, No and No.
Hardly impressive.
I am the equivalent of the guy who designed the city infrastructure that the beggar pleads from.
NEXT!
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x Then Iron Maiden isn't an impressive band because they have not made the top 10 sellers list and they haven't made it on the Oprah show yet. If you designed the city infrastructure that the beggar pleads from does that mean you designed Youtube? Or podcasts in general? Was that your idea?
andrewh817 11 months ago
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
In Queensland Australia, the government could not afford to pay the back-pay of indigenous people for twenty years they "protected it" and decided not to pay.
I don't trust governments. I pay practically zero tax and am my own boss.
That's anarchy.
baalisgod666 11 months ago
The problem with this video is you're making too much sense. Everything else was great.
benhuey 11 months ago
WOW...incredible message...thanks!!!
destinedforobscurity 11 months ago
I fucking PANICED
ninetales1234 11 months ago
TAX THE RICH ... stop blaming the working class for what is happening. Shill is the first word that comes to mind.
tyandambika 11 months ago
@tyandambika
Finally, someone who has a grasp on reality on this thread.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@tyandambika Increasing taxes is not a sustainable solution for the financial crisis. Tax increases lower productivity and make it harder for jobs to be created. By the way....... what income bracket do you think creates the most jobs?
andrewh817 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x
you are a perfect little slave...exactly what the corporations, banks and state desire of you. They barely need violence here at home because the broken serfs such as yourself defend the very structure that you think you hate.
newseamus 11 months ago
@newseamus
I do not defend the state because the state does not exist. To rail against the state is akin to Don Quixote tilting at windmills.
What you call the "State" is just another corporation, or more accurately, corporation #1. All other corporations get their charters under company #1.
I merely point out what exists in reality.
Fill your diapers if you must but the reality still exists and you are under contract. Keep cryin and U will get spanked.
Act like an adult and enjoy life.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x That is why I used the term pressure rather than coercion.
I don't know you opinions as I haven't read many of your post.
People get pressured into bad contracts to protect their families from going homeless or hungry. I personally feel that people should take responsibility for these contracts. However, whenever any group, gov't or private business, starts exploiting people I feel that we should object. An exploitative contract is always exploitative even if you willingly signed
frostedpornflakes 11 months ago
@frostedpornflakes
We can discuss the exploitive nature of the contract but we cannot speak of it as theft (As Stef mistakenly does) as there is NO coercion at the time the contract was entered into.
We can discuss the relative value of the benefits vs. the taxes paid, but to call taxes theft is intellectual bankruptcy.
Contract negation.
1. Minor 18 y/o
2. Lunacy. Mental capacity
3.Coercion. Threat of harm
4. Impairment. Under influence of drugs or alcohol.
exploitive is not considered.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x I'm fine, I do the best I can, better than most, I agree that the state is not real, nor are the corporations. They are the mass delusions of others. i have a brilliant way to gauge the validity of the actions of others, here it is: it is immoral for one person. to initiate force against another person. That's it. That one rule is a great BS detector, and keeps me immune from falling for the mainstream media or the delusions of most statists.
TreachMarkets 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x Corporations sell products. The government doesn't sell products. Please explain how the government is a corporation.
andrewh817 11 months ago
@andrewh817
"Governments" don't sell products? Tell that to the Egyptians who are getting tear gassed.
The space shuttle discovery just came back to earth and I am quite sure that there is a cargo arm on board that was made and sold by "The Company Called CANADA"
U R so owned.
Go to the US SEC Home Page and do a CIK look up for CANADA as the company name and tell me when you find that CANADA is a listed Company.
Government is a concept. A noun or a verb but NEVER an object. Free your mind.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x "cargo arm on board that was made and sold by "The Company Called CANADA""
We made 2 of them.
A Canadian corporation did make them but let's face it, we literally call it the CANAD-ARM so it's not like it's not brand-name identifiable right there. Powerful enough to lift a library, careful enough not to shake any books off the shelf. Yes, we sell products from Crown (gov't) Corporations.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x That detail is unimportant to me. It can never have bearing on my life. The accounts-receivable ability of Canada, a nation with Crown corporations, is what allows income to flow to our nation as a nation, in addition to individual trade across borders & oceans. That's good for my country. I benefit from this in the long term so I do not oppose it. We shall see when it comes to water sources. That will be a potential deal-breaker.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
Trust me, the company will do as it pleases to meet it's specific objectives. If that means selling water to whatever company they chose, it will come about.
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x It will not. People will be kidnapped and shot when our water is sold against our will.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago
@ytgv3fc7
Water is already a commodity in CANADA. Haven't U ever paid a water bill B 4? There is already a water sharing agreement in place between CAN / US. Drive to BRITISH COLUMBIA and go to KOOKANUSA lake, Look at the name and maybe U will B smart enuf to figure it out.
There is a hydro dam on the US side so the US controls lake levels.
You will has already been eliminated.
Hint:
Kootenay
Canada
USA
Darkhorse21x 11 months ago
@Darkhorse21x if we draw our own water or collect rain & snow, then no, we do not pay a bill - it is ours to have. We only pay a service fee for delivery via someone else's equipment to tap water or via bottled water, and a fee for sewer transport & processing. This can be within reason. Some price changes may not be but the principle is intact: a service is provided which is not free nor should be. As for the hydro-dam they have to let OUT the water to get power, not keep it. Not my issue.
ytgv3fc7 11 months ago