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  • Talking about Nauru Palau Tuvalu etc Finkelstein is very slightly wrong. Tuvalu's main export is its .tv domain name while the others' main export is selling their vote at the UN to make it look better for countries. For instance, Nauru received 10 million dollars in aid from Russia the day after it recognised Abkhazia as a country.

  • shame in you christians supporting who killed Jesus Christ <<and how you support the Jewry who disbelieve in your prophet they curse hem)and then you ask mercy.. and remission from hem(Jesus)

  • Not only is criticism of Israel NOT anti-Semitic, but many people don't realize that Arabs are also a Semitic people. Therefore, defence of the Palestinian people CANNOT be construed as anti-Semitic because both parties involved are Semitic peoples. Saying that criticizing Israel's policies is anti-Semitic is like saying criticizing sexual abuse of altar boys is anti-Catholic.

  • Good job cutting out the introduction. 

  • i wonder why heteler was killing them ?

  • The neighboring people of Israel wake up slowly. It is high time that Israelis and Palestinians also reconsider their previous way of thinking.

    Just so we can live respectfully with each other or side by side.

    Salaam and shalom

  • the benefit of a man like Finkelstein is his ability to state the facts, not he opinions, and to address crisis based on the truth of what has been proven, shown, and known. He is considered anti-Israel because he exposes the lies that support the paradigm of that state. He does not cheer the terrorists on either side. He does not support Palestinian murder any more or less(at all) than Israeli murder. Rather than a dividing point, Finkelstein should be regarded as a historian and a philosopher.

  • @marshal3corps AGREE!!!!

  • @marshal3corps Don`t get carried away buy a little wind coming out of the rectum of an

    angry man.

    Fric stein is an ex- scholar that has been booted out of every respectable place for his generous support and endorsment of notorious terror organisations.

    Find another less biased bigot as an icon before you also cross the lines.

  • @MrLamalo1 I don't know what lines you might be talking about. Having heard a good bit of what he has to say, and being well acquainted with the facts, I lend my support with no misgivings. The term ex-scholar is only applied based on the credentials of other "scholars" who see fit to discredit any voice that raises itself against the clear apartheid/terrorism practised by the state of Israel against the Palestinians. One is either against state terror or for it, imo. He is clearly against it.

  • @marshal3corps Not having misgivings tells me U have been contaminated by the Jihadist lie propaganda,can`t think 4yourself or have an over developed resenment towards Israel,which is put under unjust scrutiny while strugling against genocidal organisations rooted in a civilian area.It`s obvious Israel has a healthy internal debate &seeking peace while Arabs R after victory and bound by no moral value.Conflict is compounded by external agenda namely Iran inc.Find your concious read Hamas charter

  • @MrLamalo1 it ha

    s nothing to do with Jihad, buddy. I rea the word of the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and what Israel does today si the same injustice that got them thrown out of their inheritance two thousand years ago. It is you who ought to do some reading. Check out the UN charter, for example, or some of the resolutions already passed that say the occupation is illegal. Clearly you have a distorted view of reality.

  • @marshal3corps I mean what I said..think!!And think again!!

    If you want to stick your head in the sand forever,it`s fine by me.

    Problem being is when you come out of your mental hibernation,you`ll realise that Sharia law is in town and your mom&sister R walking the streets with Dark Vader suits to keep them modest.All the biased History you dig out won`t be appeasing to your supreme masters the `believers`.

  • @marshal3corps ..watch Hassen Nazzrallh in his call for killing all Jews,lecturing to 50,000strong shia mob in lebanon,those reacting like subhuman zombies waving their fist in anger in perfect synch.If the IDFwas weak,they would execute their plan instantly.

    Israel`s policy,nor the murky historical conflict is the reason for world Jihad as you`d like it 2b.Watch the West hating Muslim street demonstrations in big cities around the globe,take some time 2read the slogans..&think,don`t be fooled

  • Everything is simple... for cretin.

    Sure there is an int'l law no annexing. Simple? So why world was silent when Jordan occupied WB and Egypt in fact took Gaza? They also attempt to took over Israel 3 times.

    Why law should apply only to jews?

    Sure Israel has less civ casualties but that's because Israeli do whatever they can to minimize it and Islamist goal is to sacrifice own people.

  • @Greywind30 Right. There are two laws, one for the jews, one for all others. Jews are terrorists.

  • @kolkrabe19

    To stupid to match argument for an argument?

    Yes there are two laws one for everyone but jews. When ally won WW1 and WW2 they ANNEX disputed territory and reparations but of course jews can't do it.

    Jordan annex WB and nobody said a word. Syria kill and torture Israeli PoW, hamas keep PoW in defiance to law, After 1948 over 600k jews left muslim countries with nothing. You stole from them land x4 of entire israel but its ok for non jews

  • @Greywind30 What do you know about Jewish law ?

  • @kolkrabe19 I would actually agree with you on the first point. Muslim dictators have been allowed to get away with killing their own people for years, while the world has turned a blind eye. Yet every little thing Israel does in self defense of Islamic extremists is scrutinized and criticized.

    I have met many Jewish people that don't have a terrorist bone in their body, so your second statement is of course false.

  • @Greywind30 I think the reason that Israel has been a target for it's actions are several. The Israeli occupation has been going on for 40+ years and has gotten progressively worst in terms of human rights violations. People around the world become outraged when they see Arab homes in the illegally occupied territories being bulldozed in order to build illegal settlements, when they see Jewish only roads and just a constant denial of basic human rights to Arabs. Cont.>>>>.

  • @greywind30 People who were once big supporters of Israel are now abandoning her do to this non-compliance with international law. You should consider it a compliment that the world seems to single out Israel, as the world expects a higher standard from the Democratic Jewish Nation. I find it hard to believe that Israelis are willing to risk it all to continue an illegal occupation.

  • @steute2011 @steute2011

    I dont argue on what majority believe.Your majority is 2B muslims who rule the world with terror and oil. I argue on facts and common sense. I also dont have much use (OMG!) for international law and judges who apply it selectively. Law is for everyone of no one.

    As for risk it is big question what more risky. Its easy for you to apply high std to somebody. What if it were your life on line. Your country/family? How would your gov. react? Let me see...Iraq? Afgan? Libya?

  • @Greywind30 I think you have not considered the potential long term consequences for Israel. It is already feeling Isolated and that will only increase with time, because of just what you just said...Israel has no use for international law. Eventually, countries will refuse to trade with Israel (economic sanctions) and eventually the world will act in force against Israel for compliance. If the the US ever abandons Israel, this will happen in quick succession. BTW, the US is worst than any!

  • @steute2011 "you just said...Israel has no use for international law"

    I said "I dont have a use for int'l law" emphasizing "I" I speak only for myself.

    "Eventually, countries will refuse to trade with Israel" or West get feed up with islamist and take a stand or find alternative to oil.

    But what happen to Israel if they give up territory without serious peace deal out of fear to be isolated? Any thoughts? What is it do you want from Israel?

  • @Greywind30 I firmly believe that if Israel were to work within the framework that has been in place since Resolution 242, they would immediately win the world over and then if they were attacked, the world would support them without question. I realize that it's a bit of a gamble, but when you consider the technology and military might of Israel, I believe they would be able to thwart any potential attack before they suffered any significant damage. Just my opinion and hope.

  • @steute2011 "I firmly believe....I realize that it's a bit of a gamble"

    A little? You are master of understatement. What is your believe is based on?

    In 1973 Israel was almost overrun and only because Israel hold Golan and were able to delay Syrian army.

    Main Israeli weapon is ability to mobilize EVERY SINGLE ONE able to fight extremely fast. They do it in amazingly fast but not instantaneously. No matter how advance your weapon is if you dont have people to use it ...

  • @Greywind30 I try no to loose sight of the very real Israeli safety concerns, while still trying to advocate a viable, contiguous and peaceful Palestinian state. I believe that if Israel were to get a promise of peace from both Fatah and Hamas, it would be wise to take a chance by withdrawing to the 1967 lines. Of course there are the very difficult questions of the refugees and East Jerusalem. I think these two issues will be the biggest challenge for both sides to compromise.

  • @steute2011 "Jewish only roads" that is a lie. 20% of israeli are arabs, They are free to travel this roads and actually have more freedom then in any Arab country.

    So here you go your "reasons" based on lies.

    "Arab homes in the illegally occupied territories being bulldozed"

    What do you mean illegal occupation? By what law Israel should return territory without any peace deal? Is it a game? "Ah I'm sorry I tried to kill you all but lost war so can I have my land back?"

  • @Greywind30 I apologize, I should have been more clear. I meant Jewish only roads that connect the West Bank illegal Settlements to Israel proper. Unfortunately, international law is very clear..."land acquired by war is inadmissible", regardless to who started the war. You act as if anyone other than Israel does not consider these territories illegally occupied. You obviously do not believe that Israel has a responsibility to abide by international law / norms.

  • @steute2011 "international law is very clear..."land acquired by war is inadmissible", regardless to who started the war"

    Again. I'm not legal eagle and argue on common sense but even I know main principal of law. It apply to everyone or nobody. If arabs can annex territory by force and threaten very existence of Israel and law is silent then keep your silence. You can't apply law selectively.

    BTW 242 does not say just move out. It says land for peace. Where peace?

  • @Greywind30 I have tried to find common ground through out our debate, to no avail. While I understand some of your points, I disagree with others. I can't help but feel that you are expressing yourself from the heart, which does not consider the legality and potential consequences of such reluctance to compromise. I will respect your wishes and not express my opinion to you any further. I wish you luck.

  • @steute2011

    You are right in regard of "legality" I dont care much for it and for political correctness but I'm not a subject of conversation. Right? Either I'm willing to compromise or not does not have anything to do with fact that Israeli actually attempt to compromise and I dont know any nation who give up so much for peace after winning war.

    As for your "reasons" there is a saying "I rather get judged by jury then by St Peter" What would you prefer?

    Props for keeping civ.

  • @Greywind30 You know I am a Puerto Rican American with nothing at stake in this conflict, so I try to remember that when I debate this issue with others, who do have their lives at stake. Admittedly, I sometimes loose sight of that fact in my defense of a perceived injustice. My wife is 1/2 Jewish and my Father-in-Law is Israeli born in Russia. I love them to no end. If he ever found out that I was defending Palestinians, I would be disowned. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

  • @steute2011 If they would disown you because you speak out against injustice, then you should re-think if there is a chance that they are not peaceful jews.

  • @000000AEA000000 My Father-in-Law is a peaceful guy, he is just old and not very politically correct. You are correct in that I should not feel bad for speaking out against injustice and I therefore have continued to do so. I certainly know that there are many Jews who actively speak out against the illegal occupation, illegal settlements and human rights violations against the Palestinian people. This fact should not be lost on us as we fight against these same issues.

  • @steute2011 dear steute. It is good that you speak out against these things. I did not quite get the end of your statement, you mean we both agree that Israel is doing injust things, right?

    And I agree with you on all the rest. I think though, that these jews, who support israel, against any doubts or odds, should not have the right to be referred to as peaceful jews. I think they are nasty zionists that support a government of oppression. Judaism has a VERY peaceful core.

  • @000000AEA000000 Your interpretation of my comment is correct. What angers me is to see people on either side of the argument label an entire people for the actions of their government, i.e., all Jews are violent oppressors or all Arabs are terrorist. I agree that Zionism is a completely different animal from Judaism. 

  • @steute2011 "I agree that Zionism is a completely different animal from Judaism"

    Of course Zionism is not Judaism Dah!

    I'm just curious what do you think Zionism is?

  • @Greywind30 That part of my post was not a general statement, but rather a response to a comment addressed to me, to which I simply agreed. So the "Dah" was unnecessary. In any case, my understanding of Zionism is people who believe in a homeland for the Jewish people and actively strive to make it strong and safe. In a nutshell, that is my definition.

  • @steute2011

    Zionism is a survival strategy hence you can see religious and atheist, left and right under one roof - Zionism.

    So how is it "evil and nasty" just wanted to survive?

    Fact is Israeli treat so call Pals much better then they treat each other and in fact Arabs admitted it.

    Do you know that PLO fighters run to Israeli during Black September and from Hamas? Also Druz and Christian ask Israel for help. Israeli arabs would rather be in jewish state. Does it say anything to you?

  • @Greywind30 I think you are placing 000000AEA000000's comment in my mouth. I never said that or agreed with that portion of his comment. I only agreed with the portion as I stated and you sighted. Nothing more and nothing less. When you say "Israelis treat Pals much better than each other", it's like saying it's OK to treat them badly, as long as it's better than what there own people treat them like? This can not be acceptable thinking.

  • @steute2011 " This can not be acceptable thinking"

    This can be realistically measure of who is who in this conflict.

    Let me emphases this point. Check "Ramallah Lynch"

    You talk about injustices but honestly your sympathy is grossly misplaced. All "injusties" against pals blown out of any proportion while real crime against humanity culture of intolerance, hate and cruelty cultivated by islamonazi result in MILLIONS dead and despicable act of cruelty like cutting babies with knifes

  • @Greywind30 I am sure you can make a case that Muslims treat each other much worst than anyone else, but I refuse to accept that this should somehow deem the ALL unworthy of sympathy. There are many moderate Muslims and some whom don't believe in Islam at all, who should not be labeled as violent terrorists, but rather treated as human beings, with dignity and respect.

  • @steute2011 "I refuse to accept that this should somehow deem the ALL unworthy of sympathy."

    I'm sure too lot of german under nazi were decent innocent people. So?

    War is war and nobody fighting in white gloves but it does not mean there is no right or wrong

    While Allies fought brutally they were "angels" compare to nazi. Some with israel vs arabs

    Islamonazi are brutal medieval fanatics they dont give a dam for life of own people and that is why this war has no end.

  • That joke about anti-semetism & global warming was priceless! LOL!!! However, we all know now that this Al Gore lie has absolutely NO leg to stand on.

  • Is Criticism of Israel Anti-Semitic? NO! Israel is a terrorist ZIONIST state! Palestinians are ENTIITLED to defend themselves against the MASSIVE INVADING FORCE FROM ISRAEL. Israel has been invading since 1917. Israel flattens Palestinian land " for security" THEN MOVES ONTO THAT LAND Then flattens more Palestinian land "for security" Israel is not fearful IT IS MURDEROUS! They take lives and land with a chuckle. I CURSE ISRAEL FOR WHAT IT DOES. It is not the land of the Jews.
  • NF! how can you be so simplistic, superficial and biased?

    To claim that the issue of Israel and its survival is uncontroversial, clear cut etc. And then blame all controversy re Israel on the "biased media"? To claim that defence of Israel's stand is unjustified - period!

    And then of course to claim that Israel exploits fear of antisemitism as a manipulative way of surviving.

    I mean really! So unacademisc, irrational and well... simplistic.

    Sorry mate but you do sound like a "simple" guy.

  • Wow an honest Jew, I HOPE they don't take him out and blame it alqaeda lmao. One good Jew cannot stop 6 million welfare collecting + self pity indulging whiners who commit every crime imaginable including organ theft of children and adults courtesy of their rabbis. If your rabbi cannot get you an organ see his brother the banker who can help you get that loan to get your missing organ back lmao.

  • @bashie34 I just realized the SOI is the Largest Recioient of WELFARE ANYWHERE!!!

  • 16.11 straw man argument about the radio broadcast

    In the PBS documentary "The 50 Years War - Israel & The Arabs" (1998) In the film, Hazem Nusseibeh, of the Palestine Broadcasting Service, he broadcast an exagerated claim about massacres, + that the Arab armies were on the way. They expected them to stay, but were scared by the false Arab reports.

    Do a search.

    There's more, I will be returning this week to repond to the rest of his false claims. You can't ignore the Islam factor.

  • I have been showing Dr Finkelstein videos 2 my kids and freinds.When a holocause "survivor"came 2 their school they were able 2 ask ?s about how the holocause has been used 2 blackmail,extort,people,compan­ies,countries 4 Israel and $.The survivor became "shaken" and left.When I spoke 2 the teacher it was agreed that the ?s were valid and no disciplinary action need B taken.The holocause card and antisemitism card is all played out and no longer works in this day and age.It's about frigging time.

  • @2deltaactual So you're teaching your kids to be assholes, then? What would a Holocaust survivor know about how the media exploits the Holocaust? How on Earth would he be able to answer such questions? Why would you assume that he would be able to answer questions about Israel and terrorism? It's also insulting and a bit deranged that you would put the word survivor in quotes, as if you think the person was lying or that the Holocaust never happened, and if thats the case, you're sick.

  • @jumpoutatree I never said anything about the media exploiting the holocause or terrorism.Nice try though and thankyou for proving the point.Who else would know more about the extortion and blackmail committed in the name of the holocause than a survivor ,as they must either be angry that it happens or they are profiting themselves by it.As I DID say,the younger generation wont be gult tripped into allowing Israel 2 get away with war crimes because of the holocause.Those days Rover.Get used2it!

  • @jumpoutatree How does any scholar qualify himself or herself to answer questions on any topic? They research the subject and develop an opinion, backed by wealth of academic accomplishment. I guess if we had Alan Dershowitz answering those questions, you would be perfectly satisfied that you have heard the gospel. I guess you consider Dr.Finkelstein to be an "asshole"? That is usually the opinion of those whom are allergic to truth, have contempt for international law and human rights.

  • @steute2011 I don't know why you're responding to me, as it was about a year ago that I made any comments on this video, and we appear to be on the same side of the issue. What did I say that you had a problem with?

  • @jumpoutatree I apologize. My comment was meant for 2deltaactual, in response to his comment to you. Have a great day. BTW, I don't know if you live in the US, but if you do, here is something to think about. I just wrote to my congresswoman, asking how it is possible that we be sending 3 billion dollars a year to Israel in aide, meanwhile our government is borrowing money to pay our current debts? Maybe if we all started asking the tough questions, we can affect change?

  • @2deltaactual The questions are valid, but it sounds like you are leaving out facts like the lack of any Arab party that can ensure peace.

    No matter what Israel does, they would need to leave entirely to please all of the warring factions.

    Even if all but Hamas agrees to peace, then Hamas will make sure that nothing changes.

    Both sides are victimized by Islamic lies about their claim that all prophets are Islamic + the Jews corrupted all western knowledge, history etc. + must go 100%.

  • Israel concord east jerusalem from the Jordanies which were also concorers.This land belong to nobody yet! so Finki is mistaken.

  • @yoramstein Jordan annexed the territory when Israel declared independence in 1948, and Israel annexed the territory after the Six Day War. The West Bank legally belongs to the Palestinian people who's families have lived there for dozens of generations. No one is suggesting that the West Bank be returned to Jordan, or that the Ottoman Empire should be reconstructed. What the Palestinian Independence movement believes is that the Israel should end it's occupation of the territory.

  • level headed people still do exist, what a refreshing thought

  • all religion are all form by men but not the so call god that the christians hindus moslims and other faiths cliams one same god but the reality now in this world sshows that god does not exit but it was mankind who created god but god did not create man

  • Whenever there are neo nazis and fascists, those who worship hitler protest in the streets, the majority of those who protest against them are those of the left who critisize the Israeli government, they are still anti semitic? Think people, USE LOGIC

  • God send them their messiah Jesus Christ, they than orchestrated lies against Jesus Christ and had him killed by the Romans. God then cursed the Jews ever since. Since than were ever the viper Jew goes, comes with misery, pain, death, molestations, lies, killing, assassinations, destruction, etc. They hate prophets and love profits. The rest is death, misery, inflation, unemployment, bankruptcies, no healthcare, wars, lies, drug use etc. The goal is death to GOYIM PEOPLE WAKE UP.

  • True. Its really funny to see those idiots complaining about neonazist and worshipping Antifacists and other weed smoking persons, and accepting the same evil as they despite :D

  • The Muslims are no better in the human rights record than the state of Israel they are equally insane in the desire for death and destruction.I have no doubt that if the tables were turned the Jews (the real Jews) would be getting killed like dogs in the street.Israel is run by fascist,marxist killers of the highest order.There is no peace in the region by design not by nautre and this will stop when America is free from Zionist control.They alone support this because Jews run America.

  • Israel was builded by terrorists foreign invaders, Israel is builded on slaughters, lies and shame and will always be a shame for the western world who have let them steal the land of the Palestinians and Israel inabitants will always be considered as inhuman savages.This country is cursed by history and will always be.Shame on the jewish ppls for Israel crimes

  • There are several contries where all religions followers live together. Just give them all the same rights and no dispute will come into place!

  • try and get a feature-length movie on this subject in the U.S. theaters and watch it get rejected

  • wh0rd

  • The NEW testament says not to curse your enemies but to bless your enemies and curse not. The sun shines on the just and the unjust...we became adopted as Israelites as a Jew of the spirit not longer of the letter. Such as explains Revelations 3:9 Those in the synagogue of satan who say they are Jews but do lie...

  • See: "Wilbur Gaston 1"

  • Christians ARE the Jews according to Romans 2 and Revelations 3:9.

  • True Christians are of the seed of Abraham.

    Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

    Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    If you bless the true Christians then you will be blessed and if you curse them you will be cursed.

  • Currently reading Finkelstein's Beyond Chutzpah; highly recommend it! Also Edward Said's Orientalism.

  • u hypocrite,create israel in ur backyard country & see how peaceful u will b then.

    those zionists wont allow any peace to others.

    they want only war & they will b destroyed pretty soon.

  • I don't think they can compare to 1400 years of Arab subjugation of lands, google it yourself...

  • sefardi,

    u say u wnat israel 2 progress & muslims have problem with that, then u should ask ur govt 2 create seperate state for those zionist jews in ur country.

    y palestine?if u love them so much then take them in ur country & create a new jewish state in ur country & live peacefully with them forever.

    it is quite easy 2 say things & u wont have any problem if that jewish state is created on palestianian land after stealing.

  • so the phrase is true.........

    "your not allowed to criticise israel"

  • tora and quran do not contradict each other...yet they divide and conquer with the new testament..

  • he's answering the question, "Is this a controversial issue?"

    he's not saying anything about criticism of israel being antisemitic...?!

  • how do you have an "ethic cleansing" that isn't "pre-meditated?"

  • long live hitler he had a done a great job by killing these fucking jews hitler is the hero of muslims and christians we need a more hitler to kill the remaining jews

  • You know that Dr. Finkelstein is a Jewish man, right? I hope so.

  • Yes Julia, we know Finkelstein is a Jew. We also know he trumpets his poor parents' Holocaust suffering in order to get a free pass for his ODIOUS, attention-hungry statements. He has used his poor parents to make a career in the same way he accuses Jewish organizations of exploiting the Holocaust in his "Holocaust Industry".

  • haha your statement of him sounds like the extract thing israel is doing, or the government atleast.

    while accusing others of racism,israel thinks it can break any laws, HR laws, abuse, kill arabs because of what happen to there grandparents.

    hypocrite

  • popi - the hypocrite is you.

    What you want is to throw Israel to the wolves with the DELUSION that the fanatic Muslims would then leave you in peace. The same way Britain's Chamberlain sold Czechoslovakia to the Nazis, with the same DELUSION of "Peace in our time".

    But this would only lead to the same result. Fanatic Islam is UNCOMPROMISING - and their REAL TARGET is YOU. Israel's success undermines their confidence - so they want it out.

    See vids:

    1) ?v=hU7T5fbJbq0

    2) ?v=w91MgE3mi80

  • who the extremist now, wolves, are u saying all Muslim who pratice islam is fanatical?

    that kind of a extremist thing to say, and it still does not justify israel abusing Arabs.

    instead of collectively punishing the whole population and target civilian, israel should admit what there doing is wrong and move forward.

    or it can lie and steal land and say its doing nothing wrong and empower those fanatic muslims u speak of.

    again u are a hypocrite, or is it only what israel wants no 1 else

  • sefardi,

    muslims allowed jews 2 live amongst them with full peace & security before & even today.

    jews r still living in muslim countries very peacefully without any problem with full rights.

    fanatics r the christians who believe that jesus will return when thr is turmoil in the middle east & when thr will b 20 million human casualties.

    ur a hypocrite, who thinks muslims r fanatics,muslims r trying 2 protect themselves from christian terrorism which is happening in iraq,afghanistan etc..

  • Muslims are still living in Christian Countries. Compare 1400 years of Arab Islamic conquering and subjugation of other countries. They don't have room to say anything against Israel.

  • i hope they will conquer thailand completly - not only the south

  • how did we try to take over europe en forcing europeans to become muslim? I see europeans convert to Islam by choice. That s why europeans are afraid. that more europeans become muslims. I think it s jealousy.

  • And you are living where? If you live in europe, you are European also. Well and by the way, what would Islamic countryes do, if the christians were building churches here? Should I refresh your memory and tell you what is happening in Africa to Christians? Shall I refresh your memory and tell you what are you muslims doing in the streest of European cityes? I think its not necesary. Europeans are converting because of cowardance.

  • @truthman600 ..and Christians and other Arab denominations of Culture and Religion

  • @truthman600 not christian terrorism... zionist terrorism....the U.S AND U.K are zionist controlled goverments.....

  • @truthman600 All o doubt true but you failed to include mention that all non-Muslims in your average Muslim society, as stipulated in the Quran, are treated as second-class citizens.

  • @Redcarpet01

    The Muslim society is a religious society. The thing that is meant to connect all Muslims in the society is Islam. Those who then are non-Muslim have, historically, always been protected and taken care of, but are not seen as fullworthy citizens of the Muslim state.

    Remember that the Muslims of old were people of knowlegde, and they were very religious The people who knew them, always knew them as great people. Islam was seen as a light. There really was no reason to not be Muslim

  • @truthman600 Muslims allowed them? How benevolent of the muslims to ALLOW jews to live... Like anyone really needs to ask your permission? You can take your Quran and wipe your ass with it - tool...

  • I am a Palestinian! I live under Israeli occupation. I hate it, and it is the worst experience. But your statement is harsh, and uncalled for. We are sick and tired of hate. We should not play the Israeli game. Spreading hate is not our mission.

  • @ jerusalem42: Salaam alekum! I'm sorry for what is happening in Palestine. I pray for you every day - for peace & return of your homes. Is there anything I can do to help? Something I can send (besides my love, best wishes & hope for peace) ?? Please let me know. ma'a salaama.

  • Thank you very much you are thoughtful. IMay God bless you and your family. Peace

  • Since the wall has been built there are hardly ANY suicide bombers murdering Israeli civilians.

    That's all the justification it needs.

    When the 67% Palestinians who voted Hamas are sincere about peace, we can talk.

    Meanwhile - see who we have are dealing with:

    ?v=GhykweuNEak

    ?v=w91MgE3mi80

    ?v=OEXQHqXmCRg

    ?v=zPeh_kqcpoA

    ?v=fLIdxF-GHWw

    Peace

  • Tell it to the World Court, man.

  • julia - since you're such a "film buff" - did you even BOTHER to watch the vids ?

    Also:

    WHAT do YOU know about Arab-Muslim cultre (especially the Shiite sect):

    Its history, its social hierarchies, its outlook, norms, feeling about self and outsiders - and how it shapes MANY Muslim Arabs' sense of self, their values, their intentiuons, and their AMBITIONS ?

    Have you BOTHERED to study them ?

    To LISTEN to them on THEIR TERMS ?

    You may have a RUDE AWAKENING.

  • You are my hero.

    I wish as a Greek I had your clear sober and honest thinking. I find myself sometimes to be willingly blind when it comes to the shortcomings of Greece and Greeks.

    To correct myaelf I use you as my model. You helps me judge Greeks and Greece by using the same standards for them as I use for others. As result I too find myself often to be "isolated with the masses " Dr Norman Finkelstein Thank you so much for showing me how to try to be fair to all.

  • Hell yeah!

  • i have nothing gainst any race,my family includes africans,arabs,asians and europeans.the term white is and of itself racist,when applied to people.colonialism was europes manifest destiny.zionism is racism.note the movement to declare arab isrealis as dis-loyal to the state.yes arabs consider themselves white and are very,very racist towards black people.zionism is not judaism,one is political the other religious.catholics hate everybody.see, the extreme oath of the jesuits.

  • The Zionists will create a lot more demonic havoc before they declare someone as their long awaited false Messiah. We will know him by his visual defect. QUINTUSMAXIMUS and exmuhammad are correct.

  • dear Quintusmaximus,i do not disagree,we are all mixed.i am a black man with blue eyes,my ancestors served with Robert the Bruce,who actually awarded us our family name,but i do not consider myself as scottish.Problem is "white people"from any where can claim palestinian lands.You can not convert to Judaism,and if the original Khazars were not "jewish"then none of them are.The Zionist are not religious,they are racist and they are in for the "land grab"we are all related but we are not pirates.

  • This is not about white people, black people, or purple people, but rather of justice. Palestinians have nothing against white people anymore than Jews do. They both consider themselves Caucasian. It is a question of justice vis-a-vis an indigenous population and ending the conflict and not about race. Judaism used to be a religion that converted people in large numbers, but the Catholic Church stopped that. They hated Judaism, so stopped the spread of it. Jews of Europe are mixed.

  • Jews have never tried to spread by means of converting people. We do not now, or have ever tried to convert people, much less in the masses. The Christians and Muslims did and still do though. Don't believe me? Look at world population. How do you explain 2.3 BILLION Christians and 1.5 BILLION muslims? Islam allows polygemy of up to 4 wives. Christianity employs conversion and missionaries. Judaism is the one religon that has not and STILL does not. We only have 15 MILLION Jews, not B

  • So this justifies Israel's war crimes?

  • hi julia, in his mind it does, most pro israel believe that israel has the right to do anything it wants. and to criticize israel for blatantly human rights abuse is anti-semite.

    But on the bright side israel is losing it choke hold on Americans, it just slowly happening .

  • It's actually the US that uses Israel to accomplish its goals (namely, total domination) over the Middle East. What books have you been reading?

  • the zionist pr scam is coming to an end.why is the truth so abominal to some? zionist claim to be semites.the saphardics and arabs are semites.the modern way to destroy people is to call them anti semites. why do khazarian people deny their heritage? and deny the stern gang and the irgun as a historical reality.if you throw stones forever eventually you will find yourself standing on nothing.

  • Actually, it is kind of an exaggeration to say European Jews are Khazars. There were many Sephardic Jews in Europe who mixed with other Jews, and Europe had Jews who came during the Roman Empire. They all mixed. Khazar is part of the ancestry, but not the only part. The problem is Zionism ethnic cleansing Arabs and engaging in genocide, not their DNA.

  • You are wrong. You seem to have more knowledge than the average person and know some of the history. However, Where do you get your information about Israel from? I mean, do you realize that if Israel truly did not give a shit, we could nuke the arabs, and be done with it? why bother with this pussy shit of killing a few here and there?

    BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO KILL THEM. we want to live in peace with them, unfortunately they don't want to live in peace with us. They just want jihad.

  • Nofimaleph, you are not an Israeli leader nor am I. You can speak about your intentions, but you know Israeli politics are different. Where do I get my information about Israel? From the Israeli press, the press all around world. I disagree that Palestinians just want Jihad. Issam Sartawi and an Israeli shared the Kriesky peace prize back in 1979. Sartawi is credited with making the PLO accept the two state solution in '76.

    What was Begin's response? You know it.

  • Actually, I am living in Israel and have been since 6 months ago. Lebanon and Syria - unlikely to accept reasonable peace agreement. Hamas - impossible. In their charter, it calls for the destruction of Israel. Have you heard of the Peel Commission 1937? Israel was only to get the amount of land equivalent to a small suburb in America. The Palestinians were going to get 80% of the current day Israel. They turned it down. This is proof that they won't accept a Jewish state. It happened.

  • I have, of course, heard of the Peel Commission. You've been taught well.

    You forgot to mention both sides rejected it. You also forgot to mention the population statistics at that time. Why is that? The Palestinians were 80% of the population and the Jewish minority was roughly 20%. You are using 1937 to judge the Palestinians of today. Would it be accurate to say the Jews of 1914 were the like ones of today? Certainly not, there was a very vibrant Leftist community in Poland.

  • This is not true my friend, the Jews reluctantly accepted it. We have always compromised from the beginning, although the Palestinians have not. The Palestinian population was 350k from the 1500s to the late 1800s. Only when the Jews began immigrating did they increase their population by fourfold to over a million. Despite a smaller Jewish population, they were entitled to a more reasonable amount of land. The Partition plan was more fair and Jews accepted where the arabs again rejected

  • I"m amazed at the parnaoia of Israeli people. The response to any protest regarding the behaviour of Israel in the world is an anti-semitic claim. Israelis are obsessed with this claim that the world is out to hate them, and persecute them. Yes, there's history, but history is history. It's time to live in the reality of now....yet Israelis refuse to do that. To the outside world, it'is seen as propaganda. To Israelis, it seems to be an obsession of paranoia....it's a sad truth to live by.

  • Criticism of Israel is NOT antisemitic IF you are not singling it out. If you start questioning it's right to exist, then you are engaging in an antisemitic act.

    I realize anti semitic is not the most politically correct term, and it would be more accurate to say anti-jewish, but anti semitic is more practical to say until someone comes up with a word that means anti jewish to describe "anti semites"

  • dumbest comment ive ever read

  • Don't take this the wrong way Nofimaleph but was you straining on the toilet doing a number 2 after eating a vindaloo with the laptop on your knees when you wrote this?

  • no, but obviously you don't have the proper backround knowledge to accept the truth.

  • I dispute that saying you question Israel's right to exist is anti-Semitic. That's relative. Most Jews prior to World War II opposed the creation of said state. Were they anti-Jewish? Certainly not. Israel is not world Jewry. If you want Jews killed, harmed physically, and engage in bigoted statements then that's anti-Semitic. If you say you want a bi-national democratic state it's not anti-Semitic. Wanting to destroy the state and kill its Jewish inhabitants is anti-Semitism.

  • That is simply untrue. The only Jews who opposed creation were a small minority of Jews with a different opinion. Most Jews wanted the state created - in fact, they tried to create the state even before the holocaust. Had there been a state, the holocaust would have been minimalized and Jews would have had a place to seek refuge. Israel has every right to exist. Hell, even the U.N. who is anti Israel, proposed the bill to grant it international approval for creation (1947 Partition Plan).

  • Did you do the research? Reform Judaism in Europe when Herzl proposed his idea and Orthodox Jews and Miskalim opposed idea, that's not a minority. The partition plan was a recommendation by General Assembly.

    It was non-binding, the UN Security Council rejected it, and some states in the General Assembly were pressured by other states to vote a certain way. It's not so clear cut, but Jewish opposition to Zionism was very strong in the Jewish community until the holocaust happened.

  • I think Nofimaleph is still sitting on the toilet. He needs some Sennakot!

  • In all seriousness, I actually do have to take a shit. But not until I correct your flaws.

  • He may need Sennakot, he says that the state had nobody in the military support civilian casualties. That's not what the Dahya Doctrine implies. The Northern Command said villages would be treated as military bases. How does that jive with the Geneva Convention?

  • The majority of Jews supported it. The Orthodox community rejected it until the location was promised to be Eretz Yisrael. Then most Orthodox supported it. It really is not relevant though.  Regardless of how many Jews supported the state, it nevertheless had the right to exist. I am done arguing it's right to exist b/c I know the truth. Now, if you want to continue to argue, please take it up with the IDF.

  • Very good Man, a Real Jewish Hero. same as Naom Chompsky, Jaff Halper and Illan Pappe.

  • "Misuse of history"

  • the palestinian

  • I go to every bookstore in maryland and each store they do not have it in stock when they look for it. And always the employee who says its out of stock at all the stores are jewish. Really sad.

  • by the bible alone we know Israel will take land from Iraq all the way to and around the Tower of Babel. If Israel does not get their red heffer or tower of babel then the messiah will not come and it is mostly aipac members pushing neocons to move to make this happen.

  • Norman rocks!

  • if u look up the word a semitethis is what u get:1 a: a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b: a descendant of these peoples

    2: a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language

    1 : of, relating to, or constituting a subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, and Amharic

    2 : of, relating to, or characteristic of the Semites

    3 : jewish

  • how ever ,if u look up the anti-semite u get:

    one who is prejudice against or hostile to or descreminates against jews.

    how about being anti all the other semetites,arabs and others ?why isn't that anti semetic?one wonders if this is a copy right issue by jews.lol

  • so why is it if u look up the word :anti-semite it only reffers to some one who is prejudise towards jews,is this a copy right issue??????????

  • Are you saying that other more famous academics don't have a demeaning manner in when they debate?

  • i would say he is probably the most disrespectful by way of demeaning. in a debate he always has to elaberate on the sham that is his opposition's academic conditionals and work. some of you may know about the academic acceptance complex he has. im not impartial to all his views, just making an observation.

  • Novick is NOT Norman's "idol."

    This is what his detractors do, they insult him. They insult him because they cannot refute him.

    You're not winning anyone in the middle by using ad hominem. Meanwhile, Norman and other brave scholars and activists speaking out are changing the views of those undecided people in the middle.

    Change will come slowly but it's still happening.

  • Amen, man.

    If people could actually refute Dr. Finkelstein's arguments, they wouldn't resort to character assassination. This is EXACTLY what happened when the guy came to speak at my school last semester. I'll message you and tell you more.

  • It is it interesting how all the comments that are even remotely critical of Islam dissapear.

  • What universe do you reside in? You can't even think about running for national political office in the USA if you are Muslim

  • Johnboy is that you?