SULLA SCENA è UN Pò RIDICOLA... GLI ACUTI SONO ....''AGGRESSIVI'' MENTRE VIOLETTA è MOLTO DELICATA... IN COMPENSO IL ''PARIGI O CARA ''DELLA STESSA EDIZIONE è ECCEZIONALE, LO CANTA TUTTO CON UN FILO DI VOCE, E REALIZZA UN'ECCEZIONALE OPERA D'ARTE MUSICALE.
A competition! My score is 4 out of 10. As someone far older and past my best than Ms Scotto I hope I am allowed to say that she is too old for the part. She is obviously an accomplished singer, but she makes some surprising mistakes, such as singing with her back to the audience, and she does not attempt the high note at the end of the aria.
Renata Scott makes an excellent Violetta. She always liked to compare herself to Callas, which is why Callas fans hated her. However, she did have a talented dramatic technique, gorgeous sound & she could act. She committed herself to living the parts she sang. Her Violetta is very convincing of Violetta's desire for freedom & her passion. Great singing! Viva Renata
Give the lady some credit! She overcame a lot. She endured humiliation from Callas freak fans and had a lot of spunk to sing tough roles and continue to do them throughout her career. She was an amazing singer and a good actress. I like her Traviata. P.S. All these harsh critics don't know anything. If they know so much about great singing why dont they get up there and sing themselves
She was a great singer, I have her lucia with Bergonzi and it's amazing. She was a great Puccini singer as well. Her studio recording with bergonzi of madama butterfy is a reference recording. Please common sense
Renata is great. Some of the roles she sang are operatic masterpieces. I would like to remember her Giulietta, Straniera, Amina, Violetta, Gilda, Elena and her Puccini. Thanks for your words.
Wiry tone, intonation problems on sustained notes. Leaves out almost all of the trills, and just before the end drops several bars of material she can't quite manage. Several of the downward runs are lunged at or just faked. Most of the colorutura is sung very quietly, and when she tries to sing it full voice she struggles or has to reduce speed. As with many of her roles, she sang this one way too late in her career, and did no favor to her considerable reputation by doing so.
I love Renata Scotto, but I dislike the 2nd recording she did. But yet it has been ranked as a classic by many.
I also dislike the commercial Tebaldi recording and the commercial Callas recording.
Among my 57 + Traviatas, the live performances of Scotto, Tebaldi, and Callas only show me that sometimes commercial recordings do not capture the best of a performer.
funny, every recording you dislike are among the ones I don't own, Had them at one time and got rid of them. I dislike the Scott the worst of all. Yet it always turns on the "best" list. Not sure why !
I have 58 different/12 highlights/also 14 vhs-dvds
Actually in this list I think the Callas commercial recording is on cassette, so it is among the 58 recordings !
Me parece exagerado decir que es la mejor violeta de la historia, y ni siquiera hace el re sobreagudo ¿? que era buena si, pero una soprano lirica debe hacer algunas coloraturas.
Then you are unfamiliar with her famous recording of the role on DG,considered one of thebest ever as well as dozens of live performances preserved on tape.She made her debut as Violetta in 1953. She sang well over 200 Violetta's WITH the high E flat.This performance from'73is one of her last Violetta's;she had taken on heavier roles by then & dropped the E flat.She was widely considered by critics as one of the great Violettas after Callas. Her 2nd recording with Muti for EMI is also a classic.
It's interesting to hear Scotto at this point in her career...pre-weight loss. She sounds much more confident, and the shrillness and wobble that creeped in as she matured is not so obvious here. Callas's voice made a similar adjustment after her weight loss. I remember my voice teacher saying Scotto would have been alright if she had stayed where she was. She started out singing much lighter roles, then started doing Toscas and Elisabettas.
R. Scotto was a great singer, not a perfect singer, but who cares about perfection after all. Art on stage is not about being perfect, but about creating a character, and bringing it to life. She could in Traviata, if not in the "Sempre libera" most certainly in the rest of the opera. Here she sounds very uncomfortable,but, with some exceptions the great Verdi ladies were never "her" thing.
Mmm, I know what you mean, but in opera the singing has to be prime followed by the acting, not the other way round. Some of the younger brigade, Netrebko, etc, push the acting more than a diva like Sutherland, but are vastly inferior in singing quality. As a dramatic coloratura, La Stupenda (called so by the Italians) has no peer and performed it brilliantly with Pavarotti who described her as the Voice of the Century - see her on youtube at 40ish in 1969. Scotto was a grand performer, though.
she may look like a grandman and maybe her voice isn't very beautyful; her singing technique is great and renata scott ois one of the singers, a young singer can learn a lot from. Unlike Netrebko, Sutherland an co. That's why I like her and also this performance.
I can't stand her. Never have, never will. There are just too many other singers who sang better than she did. Shreiky, shrill, and is it me, or does she look a little like Queen Victoria?
Interesting mikathelittle. On the A.G. video you said you really appreciate the energy and quality of BOTH Scotto & Callas. Oh well, we can all vary in taste as well, right?
hey hey, I said it before seeing a performance of callas I hadn't seen before and in which she was better than what I had seen before... she's definitely me favourite...But Renata Scotto is the second on my list...
Scotto's top register has always seemed to shrieky, shrill, and wobbly for my tastes but I can certainly understand how she has her fans. My score is a 2.5/5.
Deeply unattractive. If I were her Alredo I would be making for the hills after hearing that. She marches about the stage as if in seach of a day's washing to set about, rather than a ravishing yet fragile courtesan, and her 'acting' put me in mind of dear Ethel Merman, just past her prime. Scotto's tone and cavernous vibrato had me grinding my teeth here. She could be wonderful but NOT as Violetta Valery. O GRAN DIO!
No F in the end, but still Renata is one of the legendary Violetas of the past century. 4,7/5 - very passionate performance and it is amzing what she does with the phrase, how plastic, how innoventtive sound the words. She sets the benchmark and is then copied by many of the singers we hear today (Netrbeko, Harteros, Takova !)
A singer should know when to stop singing. Here Renata Scotto is 39 years old, past her prime and with a tired and shrill voice ready for retirement. And she must have missed the actinglessons at the conservatoty. The information about Netrebko beeing Scottos pupil explains a lot to me.....1/1
it is IMPOSSIBLE that an ITALIAN allows such boring performances like Netrebko's in fact she never sings in italy..her teacher is more likely to be an american...
I agree this is not Scotto's best singing or characterization. I particularly dislike the shrillness of her tone, but maybe the quality of the video is at fault, as with Devia. The coloratura is adequate, no more. The whole thing sounds flat in more ways than one. 3.5/3.5
I don't think this is Scotto's best characterization ( and I usually find her a very convincing artist). Also, there are number of vocal problems here that others have pointed out.
Well I watched Scotto right after Netrebko, it was hard not to compare! But, see, Funny, indeed! ;) I'm not saying Scotto wasn't great. I'm saying she was a singer with a very particular type of voice and with a very strong personnality. And as much as I respect that, it's natural that some don't like it.
Well It's too bad I saw this right after watching Netrebko! It's like dreaming of Angelina Jolie and waking up next to Queen Victoria. Sorry, but I didn't like it. I didn't like neither the voice nor the acting. She has presence, sure, but I don't feel the contradictions, the struggle growing, the desperate runaway into pleasure... O know that's the way singers used to act at that time. What can I say, I'm glad times have changed! But thanks for this contest! Great Idea. 3/2
I don't think singers from "that time" were so much less effective in acting than today's singers. Surely most current singers use their physical strength extensively, what helps the characterization. However, many of them lack a deeper dramatic commitment and a better sense of how to convey emotions through the voice, which is essential. Just see Scotto, Callas, Schwarzkopf, Rysanek, Varnay, De los Angeles and so many others. They were great, almost unsurpassable, actresses.
I don't mean ancient singers were bad actors, I'm just saying that in that case (in that case only) I see all the tics of old singers, but I don't feel the meaning of the aria. And Callas or Rysanek are not that different in the way they act of the singers today (only better, of course). I'm sorry if I'm not clear, English isn't my first linguage.
I think it is funny that you compair Scotto and Netrebko, the younger has been studying with Scotto for a while. Also Netrebko has admited that Scotto is one of her biggest role models in opera. I just thought that was a funny side note to your comments.
Albeit the singing is sometimes too restrained (or, say it, "whispered"), it's a theatrically exciting performance. She acts the role from deep inside, a completely credible and complex interpretation. Scotto's voice is quite flexible in the coloratura and her phrasing is excellent, but, alas, the higher notes are often very shrill and a few notes are really flat. In some parts she sounds as if she's using 60% of her abilities and, in others, 200%! I must however add that I love Scotto! 3/5
Okay I need to say more... she is great and I love her and always have, but even in 1973 she her top is getting shrill. I wish that someone would have stopped her from ever looking at that damn Butterfly score!
Renata was in excellent form here! Brilliant characterization! Only in the end she struggles a bit with the acciaccature and the coloratura di forza. But overall I like her very much in this role. 4/5
Amazingly singing, awsome! But she's not actress at all. Such coloratura is really missed today.
zurriussII 9 months ago
She was an AMAZING singer and a GREAT actress -- especially nice performance
fastborzoi 9 months ago 2
Scotto was never my favorite, but I recognize her as a great artist. She was a great singing actress, in the same way that Callas and Sills were.
jmuslvr 10 months ago
SULLA SCENA è UN Pò RIDICOLA... GLI ACUTI SONO ....''AGGRESSIVI'' MENTRE VIOLETTA è MOLTO DELICATA... IN COMPENSO IL ''PARIGI O CARA ''DELLA STESSA EDIZIONE è ECCEZIONALE, LO CANTA TUTTO CON UN FILO DI VOCE, E REALIZZA UN'ECCEZIONALE OPERA D'ARTE MUSICALE.
cartoonandanime 11 months ago
A competition! My score is 4 out of 10. As someone far older and past my best than Ms Scotto I hope I am allowed to say that she is too old for the part. She is obviously an accomplished singer, but she makes some surprising mistakes, such as singing with her back to the audience, and she does not attempt the high note at the end of the aria.
Oldtinear 1 year ago
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Momopera 9 months ago
@Momopera Thank you for the unexplained insult, & for the question, which I would answer, but it is incomprehensible.
Oldtinear 9 months ago
@Oldtinear Sorry for the insult and for my bad English
Momopera 9 months ago
La trovo mediocre: gli acuti sono striduli, a volte pigola, bisbiglia e non si capisce una mazza di quello che dice. Come interprete è manierata
carlo331 1 year ago
@carlo331 ci fossero dei soprani cosi,la llirica sarebbe ancora viva.PS il fraseggio musicale della Scotta è bperfetto
luwaig1 5 months ago
Renata Scott makes an excellent Violetta. She always liked to compare herself to Callas, which is why Callas fans hated her. However, she did have a talented dramatic technique, gorgeous sound & she could act. She committed herself to living the parts she sang. Her Violetta is very convincing of Violetta's desire for freedom & her passion. Great singing! Viva Renata
MastersoftheOpera 1 year ago 2
Uyuyuy; qué miedo.Pero fue bastante razonable no arriesgarse.
jamesdeperu 2 years ago
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daphnebeloved 2 years ago
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daphnebeloved 2 years ago
A parte gli acuto un po' sempre striduli, è una delle migliori Violette di sempre!
dayalhari 3 years ago
Give the lady some credit! She overcame a lot. She endured humiliation from Callas freak fans and had a lot of spunk to sing tough roles and continue to do them throughout her career. She was an amazing singer and a good actress. I like her Traviata. P.S. All these harsh critics don't know anything. If they know so much about great singing why dont they get up there and sing themselves
AmericanEvita 3 years ago 7
I totally agree with you....
She was a great singer, I have her lucia with Bergonzi and it's amazing. She was a great Puccini singer as well. Her studio recording with bergonzi of madama butterfy is a reference recording. Please common sense
balletfanRGA 3 years ago 2
Renata is great. Some of the roles she sang are operatic masterpieces. I would like to remember her Giulietta, Straniera, Amina, Violetta, Gilda, Elena and her Puccini. Thanks for your words.
sevoflurane 3 years ago
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Please stop. This hurts to see thing once great diva singing so poorly. Like Sills, they should all know when to quit.
oggieguy 3 years ago
You should know when to quit.
Andante735 3 years ago
Wiry tone, intonation problems on sustained notes. Leaves out almost all of the trills, and just before the end drops several bars of material she can't quite manage. Several of the downward runs are lunged at or just faked. Most of the colorutura is sung very quietly, and when she tries to sing it full voice she struggles or has to reduce speed. As with many of her roles, she sang this one way too late in her career, and did no favor to her considerable reputation by doing so.
RobNYNY1957 3 years ago
Although my top pick is La Stupenda, I love Scotto. Besides being a distinguished soprano, she's a bundle of joy.
TheInquisitive4Ever 3 years ago
boo, no Eb
skitzo429 3 years ago
I love Renata Scotto, but I dislike the 2nd recording she did. But yet it has been ranked as a classic by many.
I also dislike the commercial Tebaldi recording and the commercial Callas recording.
Among my 57 + Traviatas, the live performances of Scotto, Tebaldi, and Callas only show me that sometimes commercial recordings do not capture the best of a performer.
It's all a matter of personal taste.
mstrsims2 3 years ago 4
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daphnebeloved 2 years ago
funny, every recording you dislike are among the ones I don't own, Had them at one time and got rid of them. I dislike the Scott the worst of all. Yet it always turns on the "best" list. Not sure why !
I have 58 different/12 highlights/also 14 vhs-dvds
Actually in this list I think the Callas commercial recording is on cassette, so it is among the 58 recordings !
mstrsims2 1 week ago
Me parece exagerado decir que es la mejor violeta de la historia, y ni siquiera hace el re sobreagudo ¿? que era buena si, pero una soprano lirica debe hacer algunas coloraturas.
acitipo 3 years ago
Scotto was a good Violetta, but I should have known she couldn't hit the high E-flat at the end.
543johnson 3 years ago
Then you are unfamiliar with her famous recording of the role on DG,considered one of thebest ever as well as dozens of live performances preserved on tape.She made her debut as Violetta in 1953. She sang well over 200 Violetta's WITH the high E flat.This performance from'73is one of her last Violetta's;she had taken on heavier roles by then & dropped the E flat.She was widely considered by critics as one of the great Violettas after Callas. Her 2nd recording with Muti for EMI is also a classic.
pkunzip501 3 years ago 3
manca il mib, peccato ha alcuni momenti ben interpretati, diciamo 2.5/5... eh, ho sempre in mente la callas ;)
lambygerry 3 years ago
...la migliore Violetta della storia...
oloferne84 3 years ago
non eageriamo!!!...:))))
xafnndapp 3 years ago
Ridimensiono: l' unica in grado di competere con la Callas. E da qui non mi muovo!!
oloferne84 3 years ago
It's interesting to hear Scotto at this point in her career...pre-weight loss. She sounds much more confident, and the shrillness and wobble that creeped in as she matured is not so obvious here. Callas's voice made a similar adjustment after her weight loss. I remember my voice teacher saying Scotto would have been alright if she had stayed where she was. She started out singing much lighter roles, then started doing Toscas and Elisabettas.
albertthrelkeld 3 years ago
R. Scotto was a great singer, not a perfect singer, but who cares about perfection after all. Art on stage is not about being perfect, but about creating a character, and bringing it to life. She could in Traviata, if not in the "Sempre libera" most certainly in the rest of the opera. Here she sounds very uncomfortable,but, with some exceptions the great Verdi ladies were never "her" thing.
colonia3059 3 years ago
Mmm, I know what you mean, but in opera the singing has to be prime followed by the acting, not the other way round. Some of the younger brigade, Netrebko, etc, push the acting more than a diva like Sutherland, but are vastly inferior in singing quality. As a dramatic coloratura, La Stupenda (called so by the Italians) has no peer and performed it brilliantly with Pavarotti who described her as the Voice of the Century - see her on youtube at 40ish in 1969. Scotto was a grand performer, though.
pendil99 3 years ago
not bad
she was too fat at that time, which she realized herself
4/4
kateholli 4 years ago
she never can touch callas singing sempre libera... she's sceraming... callas sings the song..
thats the diffrence between her and callas
ffyoungster 4 years ago
she may look like a grandman and maybe her voice isn't very beautyful; her singing technique is great and renata scott ois one of the singers, a young singer can learn a lot from. Unlike Netrebko, Sutherland an co. That's why I like her and also this performance.
lisapaschke 4 years ago 2
I can't stand her. Never have, never will. There are just too many other singers who sang better than she did. Shreiky, shrill, and is it me, or does she look a little like Queen Victoria?
sschimel 4 years ago
Yes, a bit like Q.V. and a bit like my grand-grand-mother.
GliOminiVerdi 4 years ago
It's not that bad, but since I've heard Maria Callas the divine singing this part...I just can't appreciate it by anyone but her...sorry renata!!!
mikathelittle 4 years ago
Interesting mikathelittle. On the A.G. video you said you really appreciate the energy and quality of BOTH Scotto & Callas. Oh well, we can all vary in taste as well, right?
eric55chile 4 years ago
hey hey, I said it before seeing a performance of callas I hadn't seen before and in which she was better than what I had seen before... she's definitely me favourite...But Renata Scotto is the second on my list...
mikathelittle 4 years ago
It's not bad...just a little spread on top...
3/3
Dymension 4 years ago
Scotto's top register has always seemed to shrieky, shrill, and wobbly for my tastes but I can certainly understand how she has her fans. My score is a 2.5/5.
kmillard 4 years ago
Deeply unattractive. If I were her Alredo I would be making for the hills after hearing that. She marches about the stage as if in seach of a day's washing to set about, rather than a ravishing yet fragile courtesan, and her 'acting' put me in mind of dear Ethel Merman, just past her prime. Scotto's tone and cavernous vibrato had me grinding my teeth here. She could be wonderful but NOT as Violetta Valery. O GRAN DIO!
CandyHaleLinton 4 years ago
This aint cute in any way. I normally love her though. This is a disappointment
DIVOTENOR 4 years ago
la scotto realizzerà violetta al meglio con muti. qui non stupiscw 2/5
henryv69 4 years ago
4/2
htshoward 4 years ago
2/2
very bad
moreno2394 4 years ago
Post-Callas! 5/5
Orombello 4 years ago
I would like to see more singers struggle like this nowadays! 4/5
sottoipini 4 years ago
Not my favorite...though I normally enjoy watching her sing. 2/3.
Iareto 4 years ago
No F in the end, but still Renata is one of the legendary Violetas of the past century. 4,7/5 - very passionate performance and it is amzing what she does with the phrase, how plastic, how innoventtive sound the words. She sets the benchmark and is then copied by many of the singers we hear today (Netrbeko, Harteros, Takova !)
boris1281 4 years ago
The optional note is a high E-flat.
kmillard 4 years ago
Not bad but not great, she's clearly struggling 3/3
SirGeorg 4 years ago
A singer should know when to stop singing. Here Renata Scotto is 39 years old, past her prime and with a tired and shrill voice ready for retirement. And she must have missed the actinglessons at the conservatoty. The information about Netrebko beeing Scottos pupil explains a lot to me.....1/1
Laleyla 4 years ago
it is IMPOSSIBLE that an ITALIAN allows such boring performances like Netrebko's in fact she never sings in italy..her teacher is more likely to be an american...
micioamilano 4 years ago
I agree this is not Scotto's best singing or characterization. I particularly dislike the shrillness of her tone, but maybe the quality of the video is at fault, as with Devia. The coloratura is adequate, no more. The whole thing sounds flat in more ways than one. 3.5/3.5
meltzerboy 4 years ago
I don't think this is Scotto's best characterization ( and I usually find her a very convincing artist). Also, there are number of vocal problems here that others have pointed out.
Singing : 2. 5
Characterization : 3.5
gvjps123 4 years ago
1/4.
patjan92 4 years ago
Well I watched Scotto right after Netrebko, it was hard not to compare! But, see, Funny, indeed! ;) I'm not saying Scotto wasn't great. I'm saying she was a singer with a very particular type of voice and with a very strong personnality. And as much as I respect that, it's natural that some don't like it.
SwamiTom 4 years ago
Well It's too bad I saw this right after watching Netrebko! It's like dreaming of Angelina Jolie and waking up next to Queen Victoria. Sorry, but I didn't like it. I didn't like neither the voice nor the acting. She has presence, sure, but I don't feel the contradictions, the struggle growing, the desperate runaway into pleasure... O know that's the way singers used to act at that time. What can I say, I'm glad times have changed! But thanks for this contest! Great Idea. 3/2
SwamiTom 4 years ago
I don't think singers from "that time" were so much less effective in acting than today's singers. Surely most current singers use their physical strength extensively, what helps the characterization. However, many of them lack a deeper dramatic commitment and a better sense of how to convey emotions through the voice, which is essential. Just see Scotto, Callas, Schwarzkopf, Rysanek, Varnay, De los Angeles and so many others. They were great, almost unsurpassable, actresses.
OperaBR 4 years ago
I don't mean ancient singers were bad actors, I'm just saying that in that case (in that case only) I see all the tics of old singers, but I don't feel the meaning of the aria. And Callas or Rysanek are not that different in the way they act of the singers today (only better, of course). I'm sorry if I'm not clear, English isn't my first linguage.
SwamiTom 4 years ago
I think it is funny that you compair Scotto and Netrebko, the younger has been studying with Scotto for a while. Also Netrebko has admited that Scotto is one of her biggest role models in opera. I just thought that was a funny side note to your comments.
coloraturafan 4 years ago
Albeit the singing is sometimes too restrained (or, say it, "whispered"), it's a theatrically exciting performance. She acts the role from deep inside, a completely credible and complex interpretation. Scotto's voice is quite flexible in the coloratura and her phrasing is excellent, but, alas, the higher notes are often very shrill and a few notes are really flat. In some parts she sounds as if she's using 60% of her abilities and, in others, 200%! I must however add that I love Scotto! 3/5
OperaBR 4 years ago
I don't like that half the sempre libera is whispered and the other half is spoiled by those electrical high notes. But she is a stage animal. 3/5
Orfeus80 4 years ago
Scotto, need I say more! 5/5
Okay I need to say more... she is great and I love her and always have, but even in 1973 she her top is getting shrill. I wish that someone would have stopped her from ever looking at that damn Butterfly score!
hotazzoperastud 4 years ago
Renata was in excellent form here! Brilliant characterization! Only in the end she struggles a bit with the acciaccature and the coloratura di forza. But overall I like her very much in this role. 4/5
sevoflurane 4 years ago