@bboinigelunobboi When scientists use the word THEORY it has a different meaning than in everyday use. In everyday use a theory is a guess or a hunch, something that needs proof,like creationism. In science, a theory is a well-substantiated, well supported, well documented explanation for their observations. It ties together all FACTS and provides explanations that fit these observations. In science; THEORY is the ultimate goal, the explanation.
He cites DRAINGS as evidence for transitional creatures..? with skulls that show no sign of half species.. come come
what in life had "fixed those lottery balls" now they bring up a whole new set of variables that must be explained what chose them what held them ... SO natural selection IS their invsible creator after all .. what was his reason for evolution not being presently testable...JUST Belive?? and humans help evolution?? LOL man evolution is daed bird GIVE IT UP
He cites DRAINGS as evidence for transitional creatures..? with skulls that show no sign of half species.. come come
what in life had "fixed those lottery balls" now they bring up a whole new set of variables that must be explained what chose them what held them ... SO natural selection IS their invsible creator after all .. what was his reason for evolution not being presently testable...JUST Belive?? and humans help evolution?? LOL man evolution is daed bird GIVE IT UP
the sun IS apart of our system... yet what has the sun got to do with complexity exchange.. what decomplexity of the sun.. because it exhausts and gets smaller ??
@frank0067 The bottom line on the second law thing is that it only applies to closed systems. The earth is NOT a closed system, because it is receiving an extremely large amount of energy from the sun. The energy lost to entropy on earth is countered by the energy input by the sun, therefor you cannot apply the second law to the entire surface of the earth.
@frank0067 Because the second law only applies to closed systems, meaning no energy flow in or out. The earth is not a closed system because a huge amount of energy is flowing in from the sun.
One thing people forget to mention is that all modern animals are end products, and have never stopped evolving. People think it goes from fish to amphibian to reptile etc. When in reality these are modern animals that have diversified greatly side to side with more "advanced" forms. The animals we've evolved from are long gone.
I won't believe in anything until it's been proven with a great deal of evidence, that goes for religion and science..so.. i'm not gonna believe in god and i'm not gonna believe in us evolving from something that we can't even figure out or prove where it came from...
@PubliusTarvos Over 150 years of research into all different fields of study. From cosmology to geology to chemistry to biology. Every single piece of relevant evidence supports the Theory of Evolution.
The ToE is considered to be one of the best supported theories in science. It is one of the most tested theories in science. It is one of the most successful theories in science.
If you don't think that the ToE is properly supported, then NOTHING is. Not even gravity.
@MrFungus420 That's not what i meant :P I meant it in the way that, unless i know the actual origin of how life started, i can't truly see evolution as nothing more than a theory, same goes for religion, where did it come from? where did god come from? etc.. Theory of evolution is pretty awesome, yet we have no idea how it started, yet we don't know when it started and what started it and where that life first came into existence..that's why i don't support it, YET!
"I meant it in the way that, unless i know the actual origin of how life started, i can't truly see evolution as nothing more than a theory"
So much nonsense... It's like saying, if Newton didn't now the origin of matter, the he couldn't explain how matter moves in a gravitational field. It's complete idiocy.
"Just" a theory??? Please. Evolution remains triumphantly a theory, it makes testable predictions, has mechanisms and explain all relevant data.
@anglicantian You can always explain, the unexplainable, because there's no origin of the actual "mechanism" of it. To be honest, it might be relevant, but it still does not tell us how the things we evolved from came to existance,. The same way religion has an unknown origin, without any proof of it's origin, people won't believe in what it evolved into. Using a anti-religious concept so you'll understand.
"but it still does not tell us how the things we evolved from came to existance"
No, and exactly like Newtonian physics doesn't say anything about the ORIGIN of the matter, Evolutionary biology doesn't say anything about the ORIGIN of life. They explain separate phenomena.
An extremely important difference is of course that the origin of life can and is being tested as we speak, and much has been learned, even though much remains to be learned. Don't compare that to religion..
I was watching elmo's world this morning and he was thinking and talking about getting dressed.This is a good question for the evolutionists.Why do humans' get dressed? I bet you are going to say that it is one of the things that we have done to help us adapt to our environment.I imagine, much like evolutionists do-imagine, that we should have adapted in some other way.Do these acclaimed "transitional humans" have clothes? When did clothing first appear? What sort of crap will you say this time?
@boom4623 I don't know about you, but I get dressed because my naked skin will not stand up to the cold temperature outside where I live; it is for warmth or protection from the elements. I also get dressed as part of social considerations. The loss of body hair occurred soon after the genera homo diverged from pan some 4 mya and clothing was probably used by several extinct species of the genus Homo. But looking at your comment, I doubt you believe evolution
@boom4623 and that you doubt humans do have a common ancestor with several primate species in our present world today. I wonder what sort of "crap" justifies your doubts.
Fossils made mostly of plastic or whatever and drawings of some "transitional" fish thing. This is what you call proof. I call it conjecture, an effort to place observations (which you call evidence) under the blanket theory of evolution. Evolution is what you believe because of your overall world view. It is a Godless world view.
@boom4623 so you're saying that the bible, which, is also a collection of words that have no evidence as to where they originated and have been mistranslated and altered many times, has more evidence than a Australopithecus skull? you say it is because it is the word of god? let me guess, you got that from the book too or your pastor, who also got it from the book? face it, you only believe in the bible because you make yourself believe. it's Santa but for adults.
@vinskamuha Depends on what you define as "theistic" evolution. If you hold the belief that the Theory of Evolution is true but was caused by a deity—your god—then I wouldn't have a problem with it as long as you kept it a personal belief. If you wanted to spread your belief and claim that yours is true, then I would ask you to provide evidence of your god that proves its existence. We skeptics like to sort out fact from fiction—reality from imagination.
@Scyntist true....but as far as I know about evolution (and I bet that you know more than I do I give my respects to that) it only deals with what happened AFTER LIFE not how life came to be
@vinskamuha Very true. I would suggest looking into Abiogenesis however if you wish to learn of a scientific explanation of how the most basic forms of life arose on earth from inorganic matter. Regardless if Abiogenesis is true or not though—unless a claim (including one where a god(s) created life) can be proven with sufficient evidence, then the answer of how life appeared on earth is simply unknown, and not knowing is what drives science to pursue the truth.
@mat2112moneychangers.There is no God or Gods. Atheists are confusing ? I will make you a deal.I will stop saying Jesus Christ if you stop living with out things that science CREATED and only live with things that your God created.
I ask you becuase I see no real evidence for evolution and if there is so much evidence for evolution I see no reason why you can't give me a few examples; after all, if a person wishes to learn he must ask questions.As for evidence against evolution the fact that there is no solid evidence that life has evolved is evidence enough against evolution,and sientifically if there is no evidence for a theory there is no reason to disprove it.
Ha! ha! What a rubbish video! The skulls really look human too .. not a bit ape-like, but give them names like homo-erectus to make it sound official (even if it's clearly an ape skull) Nice artistic pics showing how whales developed - very convincing and of course based on hard scientific evidence? Natural selection is amazing - wonder how it knows? .. so you churn up random numbers but has the National Lottery ever delivered consecutive numbers - and how would it know? FAIL!
@Tony07UK > (even if it's clearly an ape skull) - which gradually becomes closer and closer to human the younger they are.
> Natural selection is amazing - wonder how it knows? - there's no need to "know" anything. You seem to be under the misconception that there's a definite "goal" in evolution.
> has the National Lottery ever delivered consecutive numbers - way to miss the point. The Lottery is random, natural selection is not; if you apply selection to the lottery, it becomes easier to win.
@Tony07UK Evolution doesn't "know" anything. A lot like you, except more useful. It's just a name for a natural process. When two life forms mate, their genes get mixed and their offspring is like them, except a little bit, or some times a lot different Before most creatures mate, they've lived a while in the world and proven their ability to survive, so if you can't survive, you don't mate and you don't pass on your non-surviving genes. Anything you didn't understand there?
@deacongry Yes, it would, and it did. We aren't dying before we can reproduce from having dangley bits. Do you have any reasons in mind why, if evolution happens, we would not have dangly bits?
Pancreatic enzyme supplements are recommended when treating cancer with vitamin B17, as well as avoiding red meat, tomatoes and sugar. Cancer is of little concern to the Vietnamese who smoke unfiltered cigarettes and eat cyanide-rich bamboo and millet daily. Additionally, cancer afflicted a mere 3% of Americans in the 1900's as folks back then ate fresh greens daily without regard to their pancreatic health.
This may be true, but how were these cells programmed to evolve like this. How did they get there in the first place? I think it's the Klamath Theory, but everything that has a beginning, must have a cause. The universe has a beginning, therefore.....
Also, natural selection and some others things do not go against the bible. Those are evident.
The big bang theory may be somewhat true as well. We think that there was a huge explosion and everything expanded outward, but why and how? Somet
@DillPickle927 The big bang was not an explosion, that is a complete misnomer. Obviously, you do not know the first thing about BB (big bang) if you think it was a 'huge explosion'.
On page 293 of "Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus in Dictionary Form," Edited by the Princeton Language Institute, Barbara Ann Kipfer, Ph.D., Head Lexicographer (1993) ...we find the synonyms for: FAITH : acceptance, allegiance, assent, assurance, belief, certainty, certitude, confidence, constancy, conviction, credence, credit, credulity, dependence, faithfulness, fealty, fidelity, hope, loyalty, reliance, stock, store, sureness, surety, troth, truth, truthfulness
@vaiyt You are acting like a typical athiest,if you cant come up with a proper response you insult the person. I,m not trying to insult you but you need to come up with proper evidence instead of theory supporting theory and saying it is scientific fact.
@FEARtheCAMPER The evidence is all available online, museums, text books, etc. The problem isn't that the evidence isn't coming to you, it's that you don't want the evidence. The process of evolution is a scientific theory, just like gravity, the big bang, etc. Evolution itself is scientific fact, like gravity. We know it happens.
@Tactic11 That's not true evolution is not scientific fact because unlike gravity you can test gravity using the scientific method while evolution can not ,so it is a theory supported by more theory with no true scientific evidence.I can just as easily say something happened over 16 billion years ago such as the big bang but that dosent proove it happened it is still just a theory that when put to the test is simply illogical.
@FEARtheCAMPER They have tested evolution, and they have evidence. Evolution is not just a 'theory', it is a scientific theory, with no evidence to DISPUTE it. All the evidence found (mountains and mountains of evidence) all point towards evolution being correct.
Please at least study evolution before you listen to some random Christian propaganda site.
@FEARtheCAMPER You can go out and do your own research. If you truly were interested in learning, you wouldn't need to ask me for evidence, and then say you will attempt a rebuttal. You have already made up your mind about the mountains of evidence the scientists offer.
Evolution isn't up for debate. It is a scientific theory as well as a scientific 'fact'. Meaning, there is no CURRENT evidence to 'debunk' evolution. I want to ask you for your evidence against evolution.
@FEARtheCAMPER Endogenous Retroviruses (ERVs) are lingering remnants of failed viral infection, which occurred in an ancestor's sex cell and got propagated in its offspring. The viral insertion site is completely random and finding one in the same location in two individuals indicates they each had that same ancestor. In humans, ERVs occupy about 1% of the genome. There are at least seven different known instances of common retrogene insertions between chimps and humans. Proof.
@FEARtheCAMPER Proper response? Like your wild claims about manipulated fossil evidence? Yes, that has been done before. But guess what? THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY THEMSELVES DEBUNKED THE CORRUPTED EVIDENCE. The only way for any of us to physically prove any of this to you is to take you on a trip to a scientific lab that studies fossils. Even then, I have a nagging hunch that tells me you will just stick your fingers in your ears and scream "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALA".
@FEARtheCAMPER "and take bone fragments and add clay or wood to make it look the way they want"
The clay bits of those skulls was not put there to make them "look the way they want". The positioning a shape of the missing areas was worked out by 1) studying the same area on the opposite side of the skull, and b) studying other skulls of the same species that at least have those areas complete.
I denounce atheism (with its denial of metaphysics) as it is the undeniable condition of ALL lower life-forms. To call a man an atheist is the supreme insult as it places the intellectual worth of all men on equal footing with the intellects of worms, mites, maggots, serpents, bed bugs, spirochetes & crickets.
Does everyone see how I just proved you can have knowledge without faith? It took absolutely NO faith at all to have the knowledge that I was no longer going to waste my time debating with procommenter.
It's much like debating modern university professors who argue you cannot prove you exist. "Proof" presupposses existence, just like having faith (or believing) presupposes a distinction between KNOWING something and BELIEVING something. Case closed.
I have a question to creationists. If all was created by the great creator what was before everything the creator created? How were the angels created? How was heaven created? I just want to know if you think the creator was some lonely bored guy who picked up a hobby of creating and destroying life and everything in existence just because he felt lonely or needed something to pass his time? Or maybe lets go M. Night Shamalan on you kiddies. What if the creator was created by something else? Hmm
It's a shame that the murderess Aileen Wuornos was executed when she could have been of great help to the legions of brave U.S. marines who torture, irradiate, mutilate & murder elderly men, young mothers & children of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan & Libya.
Give me love, liquor and the appreciation of fine, Oriental women, gold, fish-flavored wafers & a Moslemized, or morphinized, or morphinomaniac, logic. Homosexual men who conquer boys are pederasts; their perversion is pederasty.
@procommenter Homosexual men who conquer boys are pederasts. Yes. I cede this point.
However, homosexuality and pederasty have no causal connection so far as has been presented to me. Being one does not cause one to be the other and vice-versa.
Atheism is the condition of all our planet's lifeforms, except Humans. Human Beings concern themselves with the paranormal. Religion attempts to rescue order from chaos. [Evolutionary THEORY is a religion, therefor if you pose logical challenges you will be condemned as a heretic.]
Evolutionary theory comes from evidence and study - It couldn't come from anywhere else.
Religions require faith - Evolution does not require faith - It requires an open mind to actually see what is going on. Posing challenges to any scientific theory is welcomed if you have evidence to contradict it.
That's simply not true, and I could give a million examples why. It takes no faith to have the knowledge that if 1+1=2, then 2+2 equals a higher number. It takes no faith to have the knowledge that dropping a 100# ball on my foot would hurt more than dropping a 1# ball on my foot. It takes no faith to have the knowledge that drinking a bottle of gasoline would not be a good thing...etc.
To equate "faith" with "truth" is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever hear.
Stars burn out. This is a fact. This is natural. Your plans for tomorrow rely on your faith that our star won't burn out tomorrow. Cars burst into flames. Gasoline was once a waste product. Its volatility made it unsafe for use in lamps. Millions of drivers have faith in the basic engineering of their cars, in that the fuel will not be ignited from the extreme heat of the engine block.
N.A.S.A. lost faith in the performance of the orbiter's O-rings in freezing weather after the first shuttle blew up. Faith is credence. Paranoia is a pathological lack of faith.
@sgapplebee : Science is knowledge as measured & perceived through human senses for human edification. ALL knowledge therefore, as culled by humans, is based on faith in the human senses of taste, touch, vision, hearing & smell. The shortest distance between two points is not always a straight line in regards to black holes.
@sgapplebee : You have the reasonable belief (belief is synonymous with faith) that the human body is not impervious to nuclear weaponry. Ironically, as logic & faith & common sense are set aside, Westerners have faith that immune-system-destroying irradiation & toxins are practical, therapeutically, in checking the proliferation of crab-cancer.
It's not faith at all, but fact. Just like I KNOW (without having faith) that I will not argue any more with you because it's a waste of time. And that, all by itself, proves the point.
@procommenter After all the word games and nonsensical points you vomited up for everyone to see, you have the audacity to call someone else "weak" because they refused to agree with you.
The size of your testicles must affect the tides in your area.
@procommenter is there a point you care to make in the midst of all your babbling? Equating scientific knowledge with faith only works if you discard all the evidence. I guess that makes sense to a fundamentalist christian, but that kind of cognitive dissonance is not acceptable to me.
If you want to debate a point, you have to make one, first. if that is the point you want to make, you're going to lose the debate.
@Uberlaser On page 293 of "Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus in Dictionary Form," Edited by the Princeton Language Institute, Barbara Ann Kipfer, Ph.D., Head Lexicographer (1993) ...we find the synonyms for: FAITH : acceptance, allegiance, assent, assurance, belief, certainty, certitude, confidence, constancy, conviction, credence, credit, credulity, dependence, faithfulness, fealty, fidelity, hope, loyalty, reliance, stock, store, sureness, surety, troth, truth, truthfulness
1) When new evidence is presented, it ALWAYS fits perfectly.
2) Because highly educated, extremely intelligent scientists, who spend their lives studying it, say its true. Really. The choice is to believe what they say, or believe a 2000+ year old book that was written by people who did not even invent toilet paper yet. Believe scientists, or believe creationists who barely finished high school.
One Species does not evolve into another species, each species is based on it's own unique seed or DNA Genome that is created , not evolved in Nature, and then it was not one life form that branched out by evolution into all other, no, that is false, it was millions of opportunistic life forms out of the oceans, each to it's own design, that competed and worked in the environment to use it's own DNA strategies to create impressive zygotes that adapted, by Intelligent Behaviors Innate
The Cambrian Explosion was caused by a great Abiogenesis Cultivation of millions of new life forms, that did not evolve ,but were designed by natural causes, and became cellular life forms filled with billions of DNA sequences, that then factored by Mendelian Genetics of Inherited Traits , the only actual Law of Biological Sciences that is Universally true, and that a minor amount of "micro evolution" mostly bad and degenerative, had occurred. So each seed had it's own Design.
@CarmineFragione "millions of new life forms, that did not evolve" yep again you demonstrate the fact that you know NOTHING about biology and just get your information off creationist websites. if you knew anything about evolution you would realise during the cambrian explosion what was it that got left behind almost entirely? HARD STRUCTURES. before that evolved it was incredibly difficult for fossils to occur. next time actually learn what you're talking about.
@AussiePolitics you are just giving more suppositions only meant to fit a priori of Evolution, not facts . It all goes to the rant " What must have happened" " It makes sense to me" Those are all utterances of true believers , not scientists. After Abiogenesis, Nature hardened the Cell Membranes particularly against Evolution, to lock in the Genome and construct designs for zygotes as a privatized factory system, that functions of Mendelian Genetics and only micro evolution.
@CarmineFragione "more suppositions" no actually there are countless documented cases of speciation and as I have said time and time again, mutations such as duplications are well documented processes in which information has been added to the genome. yet you were the one who not so long ago argued there was no known way for extra genetic information to be added.
@CarmineFragione "Mendelian Genetics" wow you're still stuck in the 18th century aren't you? Mendelian Genetics is referred to as SIMPLE genetics these days because the concepts mendel discovered were far simpler than what we know today.
"Nature hardened the Cell Membranes" that is the most laughable comment I have ever heard. which scientific paper are you citing here or did you just pull another invention out of your ass?
@AussiePolitics surely so, in Abiogenesis, the fibrous membranes of the cells, packets of Earth Minerals, that enveloped and held DNA, the cells ate each other up and grew in capacity to be a single Genome with billions of ingested DNA sequences, and then the cell walls lost the porousity and hardened , so that the inside of the cell was then a world to itself, a unique single cell seed , some had limited property, some had enormous property of wealth of DNA, Evolution is false.
@CarmineFragione "the fibrous membranes of the cells" rand "cell walls lost the porousity and hardened" right you obviously have never studied the cell before if you think its some fibrous piece of matter. cell membranes are typically a phospholipid bilayer, not some piece of fibre. you just wrote a whole lot of incorrect rubbish about the cell wall and then just ended it saying evolution is false. you are pathetic.
@CarmineFragione we have thousands of fossils and countless numbers of them are transitional forms. we have OBSERVED numerous examples of speciation AND we know the mechanisms in which information is added AND removed from the genome. before you go arguing that genetics proves nothing about evolution go actually learn how meiosis works and how DNA is recombined during sex. its no wonder you think you know everything about evolution, its your ignorance that makes you arrogant.
Human Beings are the Original Genome from creation. The Gorillas degenerated away from the parent Genome of humanity, and then another time the Chimps fell away from the parent Genome. So the Humans never were like the Apes and then "Evolved" by Mutations over time by Natural Selection. " Methodological Naturalism" is a Materialist Atheist theory of Evolution without a shred of empirical evidence to say " this is the mechanism" that causes one Species to become another higher Species.
The Human Genome was built in Abiogenesis apart from any other living creature and each separate case of a living organism repeated it's own creation events by the millions and millions of separate unique occasions. It never happened that one living cell did mutate and evolve to produce all other living creatures, that is a Big Fat Lie. There is only micro evolution and then Extinction for any species by their Genome. the Inferior is not evolving into the superior . That is FALSE !!!
Modern Science's basic assumption about time and the past is built upon an archaic belief that time is steady in passing and so the behavior of the world is steady. There is no proof that matter existed under the same present laws of nature, since the world is expanding and constants of the Laws has been measured for too short a time to reveal if there are quantum leaps of the time and behavior of the Universe, when it was in another relationship of a smaller and smaller place.
@CarmineFragione there are four basic ways information can be added or removed from the genome. this is ONE of the systems by which evolution works and duplications is one of these methods. we've known about how these work for MANY years yet you are complete ignorant. do you know why McExpert? because you obviously have only read websites that agree with you and your understanding of biology is so laughably feeble you obviously have not had the intelligence to think for yourself.
@AussiePolitics yes you can degenerate the Genome, but the Genome is not overall growing by Evolution into any Higher Order, it was built originally in Abiogenesis and degrading over time and has an Extinction Event due to Natural Causes. That means, the Genome did not evolve from a simpler Genome into a higher Genome, but the Genome, can DEVOLVE to take the Human Genome and give us medically defective zygotes that end up as the gorilla and then the chimp. They DEVOLVED away.
@CarmineFragione wow an absolute load of crap, there are multiple ways the genome can grow and subtract, and you just went on a petty rant of no substance. tell me you went from saying there was no mechanism dna could increase and when I proved you wrong with an example basic enough for you to understand you instantly change the topic.
@AussiePolitics You continue to deny that millions of separate seeds or cellular Genomes came out of the ancient oceans to populate the world with creatures factored within established Genomes, that then did not evolve one out the other. You refuse to answer that vital foundation of information, because it shows overall that evolution was a minor player and that Genomes have a life expectancy they cannot evolve out of, they do not become higher ordered, rather they go extinct over time
@CarmineFragione "You continue to deny that millions of separate seeds or cellular Genomes came out of the ancient oceans to populate the world with creatures" I never said anything about that at all. you're a typically non-scientific fool who just brings up random topics when I refute your stupid claims such as there being no way to add information to the genome. you are clearly another McExpert who reads some wikipedia and then checks out a creationist website for the rest of your information.
@CarmineFragione Tell me, you are the one dealing in ABSOLUTE statements that are easily refuted such as your claim there is no known way genetic information can increase in the genome. yet you are so stunningly ignorant of basic biological concepts you could not even translate an mRNA into an amino acid. do you know what that tells me? YOU UNDERSTAND NOTHING OF GENETICS. you think 5 minutes on the internet reading creationist blogs makes you an expert on evolution.
Mendel's Law on Inherited Traits is the basic Law in Biological Sciences, that this video claimed is not the substitute for Evolution. Evolution is false, Mendel's Law is observable and testable Law. Evolution is an unsubstantiated claim that one species evolves into all other species by mutations over time, by natural selection. That is a wordy priori assumption that is literally all BULLSHIT . Magical Words built by Visual Delights, teasing the senses by avoiding proofs.
@CarmineFragione "Mendel's Law on Inherited Traits is the basic Law in Biological Sciences" right thanks for demonstrating how ignorant you are yet again, as I said, Mendel's laws are referred to as SIMPLE in most scientific textbooks because just as einstein expanded on newtons ideas, modern scientists have realised genetics is a LOT more complicated than what mendel's initial work found. he was not wrong, just did not have close to the full picture
No Scientist ever created Life, and Atheists assume they can explain Life ? Why does RNA exist ? Why does RNA behave ? What has the entire Universe and all it's Laws have to do with the first thing required for any of this "Behavior" Life is not a machine, it is a Behavior within machines. Deux Ex Machina -the Ghost in the Machine, the only Logic is, something else was Alive as the Prime Behavior that is then merely a Talent on Loan, as on loan from God. All roads lead to Rome.
@CarmineFragione "No Scientist ever created Life, and Atheists assume they can explain Life" actually the way science works is that it says "this is what ALL the evidence thus far demonstrates". it does not do what you do and invent facts because you want to. your entire argument is 'if you cant explain it, god did it". tell me how is that explanation any different than in the middle ages when they did not understand disease so they said "god did it"???
The basic fact that Evolution is false, is our knowledge that after the Human Genome was attained in Abiogenesis, as a collection of billions of genetic sequences, that the whole cabal of this Genome was deteriorating over time and not becoming higher in any orderly sense, but just as we all get old and die, the Genome is decaying, not evolving and it has an Extinction Event, all due to actual Laws of Natural Causes, So, genomes do not improve over time to become higher ordered systems
@CarmineFragione wow and now you're too cowardly to reply directly to me. I find it completely hilarious how a rude, insulting ignorant person online suddenly thinks they know everything about biology. your understanding of evolution comes from creationist websites. you STILL think that Mendells work has not changed, you do not understand basic scientific definitions and you do not even understand how to work out an amino acid.
@AussiePolitics So, you can take come amino acid, shoot it up with a stimulant and run some static charge through it and what ? What ? You can make DNA ? No man has ever made DNA , only borrowed the existing DNA and manipulated it, You ain't got no punch, You are on the ropes, you got a glass jaw. All talk, no results. There is no Evolution, there is Abiogenesis and degrading aging of the Genome and eventual Extinction. No Life has ever evolved out of it's Design.
@CarmineFragione "you can take come amino acid, shoot it up with a stimulant and run some static charge" wtf are you talking about it? you not only lack an understanding of the answer, you are too ignorant to even understand what the question was. if you are too stupid to even understand such a basic question i am in awe of your arrogance to presume how much you think you know of biology. just from reading wikipedia.
Gradualism as a branch off Evolutionism, using false mathematical logics, are teaching students to attain an awakening of the necessity of their Intellect to destroy the waste of humanity, on the premise of the "unsustainable " climate and Biosphere of Earth, that they must prepare their own minds to chooses freely to act out and incur draconian measures to save the planet and permit the higher evolved Intellectuals to inherit the Earth . Jesus said the Meek shall inherit the Earth.
@CarmineFragione you do not have the SLIGHTEST understanding of biology yet you believe that because you spent 5 minutes on wikipedia thats a degree. the strongest evidence for evolution is based on genetic research into how duplications occur, as one very BASIC example. oh and I say basic because your understanding of biology is so laughably weak I wont even bother bringing anything else in. if you dont understand how to convert mRNA to an amino acid, you're little more than a child.
@CarmineFragione ""Duplications" is not Evolution, you lose again." wow another immature response. If you ever read my statement you would realise duplications of dna was a very simple process I used as an example to refute your weak claim that there is no way to add information to the genome. YOU were the one who was refuted. why did i use a simple example? because up til a few comments ago you did not even understand the definition of a theory. you really are another McExpert.
@AussiePolitics I read many reports, such as the Nylon Eating Bacteria. that sought to prove evolution, and lengthy peer reviews found no evolution had actually occurred, that such lateral shifts is just part of Mendelian Genetics without proving anything about Evolution. Yes, you have lost, because no experiment has been able to survive lengthy peer review to confirm the discovery of the claimed mechanism of evolution. The Evolutionists keep saying, "some aspects have been shown"
@CarmineFragione "I read many reports" lol no you go to creationist websites and get them to tell you exactly what you want them to. if you do not even understand the most basic of scientific concepts like how to work out an amino acid then there is no way in hell you would even have a chance of understanding the methodologies of the papers you come across. "Yes, you have lost" what an immature comment, particularly coming from someone who claimed there was nothing to increase genetic info
@AussiePolitics Don't try to dazzle me with your verbal talents. Show me one conclusive empirical scientific study that proved, conclusively that there is a mechanism for evolution that increased the information to the Genome. Dawkins could not answer that one, but maybe, what the hell, you are about to make your case, where the experts , under severe scrutiny were shot down as merely espousing theoretical scientific assumptions that have no empirical evidence to conclude the fact.
@CarmineFragione "increased the information to the Genome" as I said before, a frequently observed event is duplications occurring which added information to the genome. after the lenski experiment when bacteria evolved the ability to metabolise citric acid guess what? they had done an analysis of the genome before and after the experiment and guess what? GENETIC INFORMATION HAD INCREASED.
@AussiePolitics you said " all the evidence thus far demonstrates" What a liar you are, you have not ever, ever demonstrated the fact of anything that evolved by Evolution's claims. You exist in the present tense and work with cues and clues of the past world, which you cannot empirically touch. You always default to saying '
" What must have happened" like playing Sherlock Holmes with clues , which none of it, has anyone witnessed. So , Genetics has not proven Evolution at all.
@CarmineFragione "What a liar you are" right except for genetic evidence which allows us to determine how related species are, thousands of fossils including many many transitional ones. vestigial organs. there are countless examples of speciation occurring, from species of fireweed DOUBLING there chromosomal count from original stock. the Faeroe Island house mouse in just 250 years of being brought to the island evolved into a completely DIFFERENT species than the ancestor brought to the island
@AussiePolitics Maybe I was too hard on you, Okay, tell me one "Natural Process" maybe that is out in your back yard pond, etc. That causes the mRNA to carry a message from the DNA to the Ribo etc. Go ahead Einstein, tell me one Natural Law or Process that explains why there is a DNA and RNA "BEHAVIOR" go ahead, you put your foot in your ass, go ahead and tell us why RNA behaves to carry messages from the DNA and gives a blowing out your ass damn about it !!!
George Bernard Shaw used Darwinism to say all humans have no real inherit value and the only god is the Collective or the State. That means by Evolution, you must prove your worth, gain by merit your status and earn your existence, or you are only an ape and if a chicken or a pig can be slaughtered, than a humanoid being can also be butchered and there is no SIN !!! First they have to convince you to destroy the individual sense of Conscience, that comes only by a Faith in God.
A Law is Universally impacting all things. If you drop a cannon ball and a house key from a tower, at the same time, they both accelerate at the same rate. That means there is a law. Evolution does not impact all living things, amoeba and ants have been without evolution. The bacteria in our stomachs has not evolved to consume us. It is clear to any intelligent student who has a mind to ask for TRUTH, that Evolution is not a Law, but a sickness devouring modern Sciences to do evil things.
If Evolution was true as a gradual Law of arising new species, then why are the Apes still Apes ? There are so many clear contradictions to any belief in Evolution as the main factor to explain the diversity of Life, that it can not be called either Fact or a Law. Evolution has become only a Euphemism used by the Illuminati and Atheist Intellectual to force a division among our people as to who has the right to exist on the planet , and who is " destroying the planet" a False Religion.
Science is a Latin term in origins, borrowed from the Greek term "Gnostic" The Church taught that all human beings are created equally as valuable to God in their being. But the Illuminati, that supported the rise of Science, or Gnosticism, they advocated making a difference , that while all flesh is evolved, those with the gift of illuminations, or I.Q. to be "Awake Intellectually" are a separately breaking out species of humans, who need to destroy the inferior species of humanity
" All men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" Darwinism is a Beast of Babylon ,seeking to degrade the Innate Value of each individual human life as nothing more than an evolved Ape, so that only those with "Intellectual Achievement" have this God Like achievement that makes them Superior to all others, justifying the liquidation of all lesser humans, without conscience that they are actually Murderers
Darwinism is about the exceptional Gnostic Illuminati or Intellectually Awake humans who have rationalized that all others are merely apes and animals and dispensable as slaves, while the Illuminati as "gods" by virtue of Intellect, their extra dispensation of inequality, wish to depopulate the world and take the land for their Utopia. The Declaration of Independence for Americans says , once the Kings claimed to be more human, and we as commoners were less human , mere animals.
Charles Darwin was never a scientist, he was an English Gentleman, the sort the Illuminati would say are "Humans" who are intellectually awake, while average sort of Commoners are mere animals. Darwinism is an Intellectual Gimmick to return Humanity to a Division between the Intellectual Elite, who by their "Illumination" are "Awake" as humans , while the rest of us are "Apes" like the rest of the Animals. Evolution contradicts our Emancipation Proclamation of Equality as Humans.
Charles Darwin was an adventurer who wrote travelogues, Gregory Mendel, the Catholic Monk, was the true Scientist , whose Law of Inherited Traits is the actual and true Science of Biological Genetics, and not "Evolution" which is not a Law nor has ever found any mechanism for evolution . Evolution by Mutations is about degenerations of the Genome after they were produced by Abiogenesis , and shows they have a limited life span, The Genomes do not overcome death by evolving,
Charles Darwin was an adventurer who wrote travelogues, Gregory Mendel, the Catholic Monk, was the true Scientist , whose Law of Inherited Traits is the actual and true Science of Biological Genetics, and not "Evolution" which is not a Law nor has ever found any mechanism for evolution . Evolution by Mutations is about degenerations of the Genome after they were produced by Abiogenesis , and shows they have a limited life span, The Genomes do not overcome death by evolving,
Life never began by Evolution on the Earth. The RNA rained down as cosmic dust from the heavens, the motion of the oceans encased the RNA and mixing with Earth Elements, the DNA appeared Earth Bound and captured inside mineral based molecules, called a "Cell" But the real life is the tiny DNA sequences from the Cosmos, and they capitalized and cannibalized and assembled into SEEDS which each held billions of Genes and produced unique creatures without EVOLUTION being a major player .
Evolutionists think they can enter a discourse on the minutia of Mendelian Genetics , and speak about the DNA breakdowns , and think that is a discussion about evolution, but they are liars of the worst sort. Genetics is not principled upon any sort of theory of Evolution, but it does hinge on the Law of Inherited Traits that does not require any evidence of "Evolution" having ever occurred in the DNA Genome. One species does not evolve into another species, they both had unique origins.
A Law in science means, if you apply the Law to various masses, they must have a uniform behavior under the influence of a Law . But Evolution is not a Law, because some lifeforms do not evolve at all for millions of years and others seem to have undergone adaptations, but none have ever moved as a single species into another species. There is a lock ,a mechanism in the design of DNA, in it's functions that prevent Evolution from occurring and that no man has shown the Mechanism for Evolution
@CarmineFragione "A Law in science means" no, that is your definition of a law which you obviously invented in your head. tell me if you do not even understands the definitions OR basic biological concepts on what basis are you making your claims about evolution? you're just another idiot talking shit on the internet after spending 5 minutes on wikipedia.
@AussiePolitics I stand on the facts , not your opinions. a Law is Universally impacting all things equally in the Creation. There is no "Opt -Outs" Evolution appears to have so many opt outs for so many organisms, that have never evolved at all, that there is no such evidence that Evolution is a Law, but some isolated facts that yet have no known mechanism that can increase information to the Genome. No species has ever broken out of the lock of their species to evolve into another
@AussiePolitics I stand on the facts , not your opinions. a Law is Universally impacting all things equally in the Creation. There is no "Opt -Outs" Evolution appears to have so many opt outs for so many organisms, that have never evolved at all, that there is no such evidence that Evolution is a Law, but some isolated facts that yet have no known mechanism that can increase information to the Genome. No species has ever broken out of the lock of their species to evolve into another
Francis Crick who discovered the DNA , said that " although it looks designed, you must not say that it was designed, you must say it evolved, because that is all that makes sense to me" And so the Evolutionists insist on making "sense" not facts that can be proven . The Priori of the Scientist is built on a list of Assumptions that they either must prove or give up eventually, and when that becomes an Atheist Religion, they cannot give it up at all, they become BELIEVERS !!!
@CarmineFragione "Then you drop your bullshit facade of being "Scientific" and admit Evolution is only a Theory" so since I had a go about you not understanding what a theory is now you've looked it up and changed evolution to being just a 'hypothesis'. I do find it amusing talking to a person who 5 minutes ago did not even understand the definition of a theory. you still do not even answer my question which confirms how little you know. you know NOTHING about basic biology.
Theoretical Sciences is no excuse to create Atheist Religions out of it. The Star Gazers had precise measurements of planetary motions and eclipses, they began to "Believe" in bowing down to the Sun, Moon and Stars. It took a long time to convince these fools that their "Materialistic Measure" was just a RUSE and not real Knowledge about the Cosmos . Evolution is bar stool chatter about things that really do not matter, and the magic cannot be actually performed as feats.
@CarmineFragione wow you're really good at your rhetoric but all you're doing now is making bullshit comments. funny how the kind of people this seems to come from are those COMPLETELY and UTTERLY devoid of even the most basic of biological principles. wow this test really is useful for testing those who are talking shit. AGT mRNA codon and amino acid please. you're deliberately not replying to me because you wont admit you do not understand a THING about biology.
Evolutionists are like Vacuum Cleaner Salesmen, They can try to sell you , but they can't fix a damn thing to save their lives. While they try to hose you , they actually SUCK under pressure.
There are two divergent paths of Science today, one is trying to figure out how life can exist and change over time, and the other is trying to figure out just what is "Intelligence" and can that be applied to the Universe or its causation. Someday when these two separate pursuits end up crossing each other's path, we might have found the God in the Mystery of Everything. until then, I have Jesus and a Cross where I met God. Case Closed.
@CarmineFragione oh and by the way, two enzymes in the histidine biosynthesis pathway are the result of a duplication of DNA. however I doubt you have any understanding of what I am talking about. all you are is rhetoric, you are completely ignorant of basic concepts of biology. tell me, what mRNA codon does AGT on the DNA template strand running 3'-5' code for? and while you're at it what amino acid does that translate into? you're just another armchair expert.
@AussiePolitics If someone put a gun to your head and said " Okay , you go into the laboratory and you make up some living things we want, or we will shoot you !" Then you drop your bullshit facade of being "Scientific" and admit Evolution is only a Theory, and you can't actually do this "MAKING THINGS UP" stuff !!! Then you get undressed by TRUTH and you get wrestled to the Mat. You are just talking talk, not using Potential anything to create Kinetic something ! Idiot.
@CarmineFragione yet again you go back to your petty insults. you demonstrate how little you know because again you have confused evolution and abiogenesis. "admit Evolution is only a Theory" yep another armchair expert who does not even understand what a scientific theory is. i really wonder what the point is in talking to people like you who do not even understand the most basic definitions, make big claims like no known way for adding genetic information (so easy to refute).
@CarmineFragione wow more insults. funny how you people demonstrate so much ignorance about basic scientific concepts and as soon as you ask them an extremely basic question about genetics they have a little bitch. come on, what does AGT code into? mRNA codon please and then the amino acid it is translated into. or are you just going to insult me again because you do not even have the education of a first year uni student?
@AussiePolitics Funny, you did not get the Nobel Prize for doing anything meritorious in Science ? How did they overlook your data ? Oh, you had a display at the "Science Fair" and now you are for hire as "The Science Man" ???
@CarmineFragione wow another petty immature comment, completely ignoring the question. you are so supremely arrogant to believe you are some kind of expert on biology and evolution, so I asked you an extremely basic question. you have no clue do you? know why that is? because you're just another idiot who spent 5 minutes on google and think that makes you intelligent. sorry but you are too ignorant to even understand a first year genetics question.
@Aussie Darwin was not ever a Scientist and was actually an "Adventurer " who wrote Travelogues and look how far he got !!! Mendel is the Scientist and determined the Law of Inherited Traits. You worship the guy who had no knowledge but made a pleasing hypothesis that you insist is a Theory , while Mendel's Law is called inconsequential to the falsification of any such hypothesis of evolution being graduated to the level of a Theory. What is the difference between Scientific and Science ?
@CarmineFragione "You worship the guy" actually you fool evolution has changed significantly since darwin. oh and by the way, in modern biology we understand that inheritance patterns are a lot more complex than simple mendelian genetics. "you insist is a Theory" I do not, modern biologists regard it as a theory as it explains all the evidence thus far uncovered. however I do find this amusing - you changing the topic again. you really do not know the answer to my question do you?
@CarmineFragione lol if you ever did go to a campus it most certainly never was anything related to science. you people are so arrogant to act like you understand anything about evolution but you did not even know what a theory was, what duplications were OR what a basic segment of DNA codes into. do you know what that tells me? I am talking to someone who knows NOTHING about biology. still its the ones who know least that are the loudest on these issues.
@AussiePolitics In the old days the Sorcerer's Apprentice waved his wand and uttered Abracadabra and expected magic to exude out of him, but today it is the chant of Methodological Naturalism . Things called Scientific is not actually Science. Technology is the test of mettle, if you can do the "Making" or just Jive talking . Can you Mutate a retarded child into a genius level intellectual or not ? Can you regrow a missing limb for a child who stepped on a land mine ?
@CarmineFragione wow this is how you respond when I ask you a simple factual question about what amino acid AGT codes for. your response is an immature tirade that since we dont know everything you should not have to answer a basic question about biology. go learn some basic biology before attempting to argue about things that go way over your head.
@AussiePolitics There are billions of genetics sequences and you cannot move a single improvement to the human genome by "evolution facts" you claim you have under your "Knowledge" I told you , you are all bullshit, Only if they put a gun to your head, you would plead guilty of your offense, for what you really are is a Magician, who is able to fool some of the people some of the time , but you cannot fool all the people all of the time. You have no "Knowledge" You are a LIAR
@CarmineFragione so tell me, from my perspective I see a petty immature fool who writes crap on the internet about biological concepts yet has shown time and time again you do not even understand the most simple of concepts. if you cannot even work out a simple amino acid then I question how much you know. you're just full of hot air and rhetoric. AGT mRNA codon please or again you show your ignorance.
@AussiePolitics Let's see the total idiot you are. You say Evolution is a Fact and you understand it all. So, why don't you genetically progress the human genome and extend human life to two hundred years. And why don't you give sight to those born blind by evolving the needed mutations in the genes ? You are the biggest sort of bullshit artist the world has ever seen. All Talk, no Glory.You can't show a single demonstration of technical prowess to prove you are worth a bowl of soup.
@CarmineFragione wow the venom really comes out when I test to see if your knowledge of biology extends past wikipedia. "You say Evolution is a Fact and you understand it all" now you're making things up again. I said that evolution was the theory which was consistent with and explained all the evidence.
your knowledge of evolution obviously comes from creationist websites and wikipedia. if you cannot even work out something as basic as an amino acid then you obviously have no understanding
@CarmineFragione all the petty arguments you come up with show that you've just googled opinions online. you have no understanding at all of basic biological concepts. why do I bother talking to someone too ignorant to even understand what AGT codes into? you demonstrate a breathtaking amount of ignorance yet you are so arrogant to presume yourself a McExpert on evolution.
So, how did life begin? That is the real Q...anyone answer that???
RosesOfTimes 5 days ago
gravity is not a theory... its an explaination of that thing we all experiance..
where is evolution....
frank0067 2 weeks ago
Evolution is a fact. Fucking DEAL with it.
dkthg 2 weeks ago
@dkthg Thats why its called the theory of evolution right ?
bboinigelunobboi 4 days ago
@bboinigelunobboi When scientists use the word THEORY it has a different meaning than in everyday use. In everyday use a theory is a guess or a hunch, something that needs proof,like creationism. In science, a theory is a well-substantiated, well supported, well documented explanation for their observations. It ties together all FACTS and provides explanations that fit these observations. In science; THEORY is the ultimate goal, the explanation.
dkthg 4 days ago
He cites DRAINGS as evidence for transitional creatures..? with skulls that show no sign of half species.. come come
what in life had "fixed those lottery balls" now they bring up a whole new set of variables that must be explained what chose them what held them ... SO natural selection IS their invsible creator after all .. what was his reason for evolution not being presently testable...JUST Belive?? and humans help evolution?? LOL man evolution is daed bird GIVE IT UP
frank0067 3 weeks ago
He cites DRAINGS as evidence for transitional creatures..? with skulls that show no sign of half species.. come come
what in life had "fixed those lottery balls" now they bring up a whole new set of variables that must be explained what chose them what held them ... SO natural selection IS their invsible creator after all .. what was his reason for evolution not being presently testable...JUST Belive?? and humans help evolution?? LOL man evolution is daed bird GIVE IT UP
frank0067 3 weeks ago
the sun IS apart of our system... yet what has the sun got to do with complexity exchange.. what decomplexity of the sun.. because it exhausts and gets smaller ??
now thats a science fiction really
frank0067 3 weeks ago
@frank0067 The bottom line on the second law thing is that it only applies to closed systems. The earth is NOT a closed system, because it is receiving an extremely large amount of energy from the sun. The energy lost to entropy on earth is countered by the energy input by the sun, therefor you cannot apply the second law to the entire surface of the earth.
gimmethegepgun 2 weeks ago
@gimmethegepgun
how does the sun make any difference..
how does that mean anything to this law.
frank0067 2 weeks ago
@frank0067 Because the second law only applies to closed systems, meaning no energy flow in or out. The earth is not a closed system because a huge amount of energy is flowing in from the sun.
gimmethegepgun 2 weeks ago
WE HAVE gravity..WE HAVE atoms...
WHERE is evolution
busted
frank0067 3 weeks ago
@frank0067 where is god ? busted
Mrilessthanthreeyou 2 weeks ago
One thing people forget to mention is that all modern animals are end products, and have never stopped evolving. People think it goes from fish to amphibian to reptile etc. When in reality these are modern animals that have diversified greatly side to side with more "advanced" forms. The animals we've evolved from are long gone.
EddieCubillo 3 weeks ago in playlist Atheism
I won't believe in anything until it's been proven with a great deal of evidence, that goes for religion and science..so.. i'm not gonna believe in god and i'm not gonna believe in us evolving from something that we can't even figure out or prove where it came from...
PubliusTarvos 1 month ago
@PubliusTarvos Over 150 years of research into all different fields of study. From cosmology to geology to chemistry to biology. Every single piece of relevant evidence supports the Theory of Evolution.
The ToE is considered to be one of the best supported theories in science. It is one of the most tested theories in science. It is one of the most successful theories in science.
If you don't think that the ToE is properly supported, then NOTHING is. Not even gravity.
MrFungus420 4 weeks ago
@MrFungus420 That's not what i meant :P I meant it in the way that, unless i know the actual origin of how life started, i can't truly see evolution as nothing more than a theory, same goes for religion, where did it come from? where did god come from? etc.. Theory of evolution is pretty awesome, yet we have no idea how it started, yet we don't know when it started and what started it and where that life first came into existence..that's why i don't support it, YET!
PubliusTarvos 4 weeks ago
@PubliusTarvos
"I meant it in the way that, unless i know the actual origin of how life started, i can't truly see evolution as nothing more than a theory"
So much nonsense... It's like saying, if Newton didn't now the origin of matter, the he couldn't explain how matter moves in a gravitational field. It's complete idiocy.
"Just" a theory??? Please. Evolution remains triumphantly a theory, it makes testable predictions, has mechanisms and explain all relevant data.
anglicantian 3 weeks ago
@anglicantian
If Newton didn't *know* the origin..
anglicantian 3 weeks ago
@anglicantian You can always explain, the unexplainable, because there's no origin of the actual "mechanism" of it. To be honest, it might be relevant, but it still does not tell us how the things we evolved from came to existance,. The same way religion has an unknown origin, without any proof of it's origin, people won't believe in what it evolved into. Using a anti-religious concept so you'll understand.
PubliusTarvos 3 weeks ago
"but it still does not tell us how the things we evolved from came to existance"
No, and exactly like Newtonian physics doesn't say anything about the ORIGIN of the matter, Evolutionary biology doesn't say anything about the ORIGIN of life. They explain separate phenomena.
An extremely important difference is of course that the origin of life can and is being tested as we speak, and much has been learned, even though much remains to be learned. Don't compare that to religion..
anglicantian 3 weeks ago
@FFreeThinker - If you could only demonstrate that you actually UNDERSTAND the science, you'd be a tad more credible...as it is...NOT!!!
oldsoftee 1 month ago
@oldsoftee Very mature.
MrRationalgaze 3 weeks ago
I was watching elmo's world this morning and he was thinking and talking about getting dressed.This is a good question for the evolutionists.Why do humans' get dressed? I bet you are going to say that it is one of the things that we have done to help us adapt to our environment.I imagine, much like evolutionists do-imagine, that we should have adapted in some other way.Do these acclaimed "transitional humans" have clothes? When did clothing first appear? What sort of crap will you say this time?
boom4623 1 month ago
@boom4623 I don't know about you, but I get dressed because my naked skin will not stand up to the cold temperature outside where I live; it is for warmth or protection from the elements. I also get dressed as part of social considerations. The loss of body hair occurred soon after the genera homo diverged from pan some 4 mya and clothing was probably used by several extinct species of the genus Homo. But looking at your comment, I doubt you believe evolution
Scyntist 1 month ago
@boom4623 and that you doubt humans do have a common ancestor with several primate species in our present world today. I wonder what sort of "crap" justifies your doubts.
Scyntist 1 month ago
Fossils made mostly of plastic or whatever and drawings of some "transitional" fish thing. This is what you call proof. I call it conjecture, an effort to place observations (which you call evidence) under the blanket theory of evolution. Evolution is what you believe because of your overall world view. It is a Godless world view.
boom4623 1 month ago
@boom4623 so you're saying that the bible, which, is also a collection of words that have no evidence as to where they originated and have been mistranslated and altered many times, has more evidence than a Australopithecus skull? you say it is because it is the word of god? let me guess, you got that from the book too or your pastor, who also got it from the book? face it, you only believe in the bible because you make yourself believe. it's Santa but for adults.
OhIThinkNot 1 month ago
You cannot ascribe to a theory about the "evolution" of life without addressing the origin of life.
boom4623 1 month ago
why do atheists have problem with theistic evolution ?
P.S if you wish to offend me becouse I am a christian and can't answer decently please don't bother :)
vinskamuha 1 month ago
@vinskamuha Depends on what you define as "theistic" evolution. If you hold the belief that the Theory of Evolution is true but was caused by a deity—your god—then I wouldn't have a problem with it as long as you kept it a personal belief. If you wanted to spread your belief and claim that yours is true, then I would ask you to provide evidence of your god that proves its existence. We skeptics like to sort out fact from fiction—reality from imagination.
Scyntist 1 month ago 4
@Scyntist true....but as far as I know about evolution (and I bet that you know more than I do I give my respects to that) it only deals with what happened AFTER LIFE not how life came to be
vinskamuha 1 month ago
@vinskamuha Very true. I would suggest looking into Abiogenesis however if you wish to learn of a scientific explanation of how the most basic forms of life arose on earth from inorganic matter. Regardless if Abiogenesis is true or not though—unless a claim (including one where a god(s) created life) can be proven with sufficient evidence, then the answer of how life appeared on earth is simply unknown, and not knowing is what drives science to pursue the truth.
Scyntist 1 month ago
@mat2112moneychangers.There is no God or Gods. Atheists are confusing ? I will make you a deal.I will stop saying Jesus Christ if you stop living with out things that science CREATED and only live with things that your God created.
zofoblues 1 month ago
Question for those against evolution: What kind of evidence would convince you that evolution is true?
Andromedonian 1 month ago
SOMETIMES ATHEIST ARE CONFUSING CREATURES:
Whilst witnessing unforeseeable events they say "OH MY GOD".
From within and with great passion they cry out "JESUS CHRIST".
Then they say "IF GOD DIDN'T EXIST THEN MAN WOULD CREATE HIM".
What do they mean "If God Didn't Exist" can they kid themselves?
It's like a boy child who likes a young girl and calls her names!
He is simply afraid others would make fun of him.
A long, long time ago,
In The beginning God Created the heaven and the earth...
mat2112moneychangers 1 month ago
@mat2112moneychangers I often say holy shit, does that mean I think feces are holy?
Miclos93 1 month ago
oh great another creationists versus evolutionists debate Round 1000000000000000000000000000000000 FIGHT!
Kyperz412 2 months ago
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I ask you becuase I see no real evidence for evolution and if there is so much evidence for evolution I see no reason why you can't give me a few examples; after all, if a person wishes to learn he must ask questions.As for evidence against evolution the fact that there is no solid evidence that life has evolved is evidence enough against evolution,and sientifically if there is no evidence for a theory there is no reason to disprove it.
fact that I have found and in my
FEARtheCAMPER 2 months ago
Ha! ha! What a rubbish video! The skulls really look human too .. not a bit ape-like, but give them names like homo-erectus to make it sound official (even if it's clearly an ape skull) Nice artistic pics showing how whales developed - very convincing and of course based on hard scientific evidence? Natural selection is amazing - wonder how it knows? .. so you churn up random numbers but has the National Lottery ever delivered consecutive numbers - and how would it know? FAIL!
Tony07UK 3 months ago
@Tony07UK > (even if it's clearly an ape skull) - which gradually becomes closer and closer to human the younger they are.
> Natural selection is amazing - wonder how it knows? - there's no need to "know" anything. You seem to be under the misconception that there's a definite "goal" in evolution.
> has the National Lottery ever delivered consecutive numbers - way to miss the point. The Lottery is random, natural selection is not; if you apply selection to the lottery, it becomes easier to win.
vaiyt 3 months ago
@Tony07UK Evolution doesn't "know" anything. A lot like you, except more useful. It's just a name for a natural process. When two life forms mate, their genes get mixed and their offspring is like them, except a little bit, or some times a lot different Before most creatures mate, they've lived a while in the world and proven their ability to survive, so if you can't survive, you don't mate and you don't pass on your non-surviving genes. Anything you didn't understand there?
KevinLounsberry 1 month ago
If you say that it would due to needed cooling...ask yourself would evolution allowed them to get so heated as need cooling?
deacongry 3 months ago
@deacongry Yes, it would, and it did. We aren't dying before we can reproduce from having dangley bits. Do you have any reasons in mind why, if evolution happens, we would not have dangly bits?
KevinLounsberry 1 month ago
would evolution leave our dangly bits to dangle?
deacongry 3 months ago
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procommenter 3 months ago
This may be true, but how were these cells programmed to evolve like this. How did they get there in the first place? I think it's the Klamath Theory, but everything that has a beginning, must have a cause. The universe has a beginning, therefore.....
Also, natural selection and some others things do not go against the bible. Those are evident.
The big bang theory may be somewhat true as well. We think that there was a huge explosion and everything expanded outward, but why and how? Somet
DillPickle927 3 months ago
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@DillPickle927 The big bang was not an explosion, that is a complete misnomer. Obviously, you do not know the first thing about BB (big bang) if you think it was a 'huge explosion'.
Tactic11 2 months ago
On page 293 of "Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus in Dictionary Form," Edited by the Princeton Language Institute, Barbara Ann Kipfer, Ph.D., Head Lexicographer (1993) ...we find the synonyms for: FAITH : acceptance, allegiance, assent, assurance, belief, certainty, certitude, confidence, constancy, conviction, credence, credit, credulity, dependence, faithfulness, fealty, fidelity, hope, loyalty, reliance, stock, store, sureness, surety, troth, truth, truthfulness
procommenter 3 months ago
thats not proof,any person can make up pictures and say this is how it happened
and take bone fragments and add clay or wood to make it look the way they want
FEARtheCAMPER 3 months ago
@FEARtheCAMPER Hold that tinfoil hat firmly, it might slip.
vaiyt 3 months ago
@vaiyt You are acting like a typical athiest,if you cant come up with a proper response you insult the person. I,m not trying to insult you but you need to come up with proper evidence instead of theory supporting theory and saying it is scientific fact.
FEARtheCAMPER 2 months ago
@FEARtheCAMPER The evidence is all available online, museums, text books, etc. The problem isn't that the evidence isn't coming to you, it's that you don't want the evidence. The process of evolution is a scientific theory, just like gravity, the big bang, etc. Evolution itself is scientific fact, like gravity. We know it happens.
Tactic11 2 months ago
@Tactic11 That's not true evolution is not scientific fact because unlike gravity you can test gravity using the scientific method while evolution can not ,so it is a theory supported by more theory with no true scientific evidence.I can just as easily say something happened over 16 billion years ago such as the big bang but that dosent proove it happened it is still just a theory that when put to the test is simply illogical.
FEARtheCAMPER 2 months ago
@FEARtheCAMPER They have tested evolution, and they have evidence. Evolution is not just a 'theory', it is a scientific theory, with no evidence to DISPUTE it. All the evidence found (mountains and mountains of evidence) all point towards evolution being correct.
Please at least study evolution before you listen to some random Christian propaganda site.
Tactic11 2 months ago
If you are willing, give me some examples of evidence for evolution and I in turn will attempt to rebuttal.
FEARtheCAMPER 2 months ago
@FEARtheCAMPER You can go out and do your own research. If you truly were interested in learning, you wouldn't need to ask me for evidence, and then say you will attempt a rebuttal. You have already made up your mind about the mountains of evidence the scientists offer.
Evolution isn't up for debate. It is a scientific theory as well as a scientific 'fact'. Meaning, there is no CURRENT evidence to 'debunk' evolution. I want to ask you for your evidence against evolution.
Tactic11 2 months ago 4
@FEARtheCAMPER Endogenous Retroviruses (ERVs) are lingering remnants of failed viral infection, which occurred in an ancestor's sex cell and got propagated in its offspring. The viral insertion site is completely random and finding one in the same location in two individuals indicates they each had that same ancestor. In humans, ERVs occupy about 1% of the genome. There are at least seven different known instances of common retrogene insertions between chimps and humans. Proof.
gregrutz 2 months ago
@FEARtheCAMPER dumbfuck
tl2e3le4f 1 month ago
@FEARtheCAMPER Proper response? Like your wild claims about manipulated fossil evidence? Yes, that has been done before. But guess what? THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY THEMSELVES DEBUNKED THE CORRUPTED EVIDENCE. The only way for any of us to physically prove any of this to you is to take you on a trip to a scientific lab that studies fossils. Even then, I have a nagging hunch that tells me you will just stick your fingers in your ears and scream "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALA".
iz2sicc 2 months ago
@FEARtheCAMPER "and take bone fragments and add clay or wood to make it look the way they want"
The clay bits of those skulls was not put there to make them "look the way they want". The positioning a shape of the missing areas was worked out by 1) studying the same area on the opposite side of the skull, and b) studying other skulls of the same species that at least have those areas complete.
419Films 2 weeks ago
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I denounce atheism (with its denial of metaphysics) as it is the undeniable condition of ALL lower life-forms. To call a man an atheist is the supreme insult as it places the intellectual worth of all men on equal footing with the intellects of worms, mites, maggots, serpents, bed bugs, spirochetes & crickets.
procommenter 3 months ago
Does everyone see how I just proved you can have knowledge without faith? It took absolutely NO faith at all to have the knowledge that I was no longer going to waste my time debating with procommenter.
It's much like debating modern university professors who argue you cannot prove you exist. "Proof" presupposses existence, just like having faith (or believing) presupposes a distinction between KNOWING something and BELIEVING something. Case closed.
sgapplebee 3 months ago
I have a question to creationists. If all was created by the great creator what was before everything the creator created? How were the angels created? How was heaven created? I just want to know if you think the creator was some lonely bored guy who picked up a hobby of creating and destroying life and everything in existence just because he felt lonely or needed something to pass his time? Or maybe lets go M. Night Shamalan on you kiddies. What if the creator was created by something else? Hmm
EATAFETUS 4 months ago
It's a shame that the murderess Aileen Wuornos was executed when she could have been of great help to the legions of brave U.S. marines who torture, irradiate, mutilate & murder elderly men, young mothers & children of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan & Libya.
procommenter 4 months ago
Give me love, liquor and the appreciation of fine, Oriental women, gold, fish-flavored wafers & a Moslemized, or morphinized, or morphinomaniac, logic. Homosexual men who conquer boys are pederasts; their perversion is pederasty.
procommenter 4 months ago
@procommenter Homosexual men who conquer boys are pederasts. Yes. I cede this point.
However, homosexuality and pederasty have no causal connection so far as has been presented to me. Being one does not cause one to be the other and vice-versa.
TheGeneralCritic 4 months ago
Atheism is the condition of all our planet's lifeforms, except Humans. Human Beings concern themselves with the paranormal. Religion attempts to rescue order from chaos. [Evolutionary THEORY is a religion, therefor if you pose logical challenges you will be condemned as a heretic.]
procommenter 4 months ago
@procommenter
'Evolutionary THEORY is a religion'
Just plain WRONG.
Evolutionary theory comes from evidence and study - It couldn't come from anywhere else.
Religions require faith - Evolution does not require faith - It requires an open mind to actually see what is going on. Posing challenges to any scientific theory is welcomed if you have evidence to contradict it.
Uberlaser 3 months ago
@Uberlaser : EVERY human endeavor is based on faith.
ALL knowledge hinges on faith. Acquire a thesaurus.
procommenter 3 months ago
@procommenter,
That's simply not true, and I could give a million examples why. It takes no faith to have the knowledge that if 1+1=2, then 2+2 equals a higher number. It takes no faith to have the knowledge that dropping a 100# ball on my foot would hurt more than dropping a 1# ball on my foot. It takes no faith to have the knowledge that drinking a bottle of gasoline would not be a good thing...etc.
To equate "faith" with "truth" is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever hear.
sgapplebee 3 months ago
Stars burn out. This is a fact. This is natural. Your plans for tomorrow rely on your faith that our star won't burn out tomorrow. Cars burst into flames. Gasoline was once a waste product. Its volatility made it unsafe for use in lamps. Millions of drivers have faith in the basic engineering of their cars, in that the fuel will not be ignited from the extreme heat of the engine block.
procommenter 3 months ago
N.A.S.A. lost faith in the performance of the orbiter's O-rings in freezing weather after the first shuttle blew up. Faith is credence. Paranoia is a pathological lack of faith.
procommenter 3 months ago
@procommenter,
Nothing you just said refuted any point I made.
FACT: All knowledge does not hinge on faith, although some might.
Your statement was false.
sgapplebee 3 months ago
@sgapplebee : Science is knowledge as measured & perceived through human senses for human edification. ALL knowledge therefore, as culled by humans, is based on faith in the human senses of taste, touch, vision, hearing & smell. The shortest distance between two points is not always a straight line in regards to black holes.
procommenter 3 months ago
@procommenter,
Sorry, but you're just plain wrong. It takes NO faith for me to have the knowledge that if I sit on a nuclear weapon before it explodes I will die.
sgapplebee 3 months ago
@sgapplebee : You have the reasonable belief (belief is synonymous with faith) that the human body is not impervious to nuclear weaponry. Ironically, as logic & faith & common sense are set aside, Westerners have faith that immune-system-destroying irradiation & toxins are practical, therapeutically, in checking the proliferation of crab-cancer.
procommenter 3 months ago
@procommenter,
It's not faith at all, but fact. Just like I KNOW (without having faith) that I will not argue any more with you because it's a waste of time. And that, all by itself, proves the point.
sgapplebee 3 months ago
@sgapplebee : You're weak.
procommenter 3 months ago
@procommenter After all the word games and nonsensical points you vomited up for everyone to see, you have the audacity to call someone else "weak" because they refused to agree with you.
The size of your testicles must affect the tides in your area.
LapsedOptimist 3 months ago
@LapsedOptimist : You remain contused & confused, ergo: weakened.
procommenter 3 months ago
@procommenter is there a point you care to make in the midst of all your babbling? Equating scientific knowledge with faith only works if you discard all the evidence. I guess that makes sense to a fundamentalist christian, but that kind of cognitive dissonance is not acceptable to me.
If you want to debate a point, you have to make one, first. if that is the point you want to make, you're going to lose the debate.
LapsedOptimist 3 months ago
@Uberlaser On page 293 of "Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus in Dictionary Form," Edited by the Princeton Language Institute, Barbara Ann Kipfer, Ph.D., Head Lexicographer (1993) ...we find the synonyms for: FAITH : acceptance, allegiance, assent, assurance, belief, certainty, certitude, confidence, constancy, conviction, credence, credit, credulity, dependence, faithfulness, fealty, fidelity, hope, loyalty, reliance, stock, store, sureness, surety, troth, truth, truthfulness
procommenter 3 months ago
134 idiots to date.good video,thumbed up
kram83au 4 months ago
@kram83au : Your comment is idiotic.
procommenter 4 months ago
@procommenter and right on cue, take a bow champ.
kram83au 4 months ago
To me, there are 2 reasons why evolution is true.
1) When new evidence is presented, it ALWAYS fits perfectly.
2) Because highly educated, extremely intelligent scientists, who spend their lives studying it, say its true. Really. The choice is to believe what they say, or believe a 2000+ year old book that was written by people who did not even invent toilet paper yet. Believe scientists, or believe creationists who barely finished high school.
I mean... cmon now.
JabberCT 4 months ago
Good video... Shit music/ annoying/ distracting music.
adrrei 4 months ago
One Species does not evolve into another species, each species is based on it's own unique seed or DNA Genome that is created , not evolved in Nature, and then it was not one life form that branched out by evolution into all other, no, that is false, it was millions of opportunistic life forms out of the oceans, each to it's own design, that competed and worked in the environment to use it's own DNA strategies to create impressive zygotes that adapted, by Intelligent Behaviors Innate
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
The Cambrian Explosion was caused by a great Abiogenesis Cultivation of millions of new life forms, that did not evolve ,but were designed by natural causes, and became cellular life forms filled with billions of DNA sequences, that then factored by Mendelian Genetics of Inherited Traits , the only actual Law of Biological Sciences that is Universally true, and that a minor amount of "micro evolution" mostly bad and degenerative, had occurred. So each seed had it's own Design.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "millions of new life forms, that did not evolve" yep again you demonstrate the fact that you know NOTHING about biology and just get your information off creationist websites. if you knew anything about evolution you would realise during the cambrian explosion what was it that got left behind almost entirely? HARD STRUCTURES. before that evolved it was incredibly difficult for fossils to occur. next time actually learn what you're talking about.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics you are just giving more suppositions only meant to fit a priori of Evolution, not facts . It all goes to the rant " What must have happened" " It makes sense to me" Those are all utterances of true believers , not scientists. After Abiogenesis, Nature hardened the Cell Membranes particularly against Evolution, to lock in the Genome and construct designs for zygotes as a privatized factory system, that functions of Mendelian Genetics and only micro evolution.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "more suppositions" no actually there are countless documented cases of speciation and as I have said time and time again, mutations such as duplications are well documented processes in which information has been added to the genome. yet you were the one who not so long ago argued there was no known way for extra genetic information to be added.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "Mendelian Genetics" wow you're still stuck in the 18th century aren't you? Mendelian Genetics is referred to as SIMPLE genetics these days because the concepts mendel discovered were far simpler than what we know today.
"Nature hardened the Cell Membranes" that is the most laughable comment I have ever heard. which scientific paper are you citing here or did you just pull another invention out of your ass?
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics surely so, in Abiogenesis, the fibrous membranes of the cells, packets of Earth Minerals, that enveloped and held DNA, the cells ate each other up and grew in capacity to be a single Genome with billions of ingested DNA sequences, and then the cell walls lost the porousity and hardened , so that the inside of the cell was then a world to itself, a unique single cell seed , some had limited property, some had enormous property of wealth of DNA, Evolution is false.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "the fibrous membranes of the cells" rand "cell walls lost the porousity and hardened" right you obviously have never studied the cell before if you think its some fibrous piece of matter. cell membranes are typically a phospholipid bilayer, not some piece of fibre. you just wrote a whole lot of incorrect rubbish about the cell wall and then just ended it saying evolution is false. you are pathetic.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione we have thousands of fossils and countless numbers of them are transitional forms. we have OBSERVED numerous examples of speciation AND we know the mechanisms in which information is added AND removed from the genome. before you go arguing that genetics proves nothing about evolution go actually learn how meiosis works and how DNA is recombined during sex. its no wonder you think you know everything about evolution, its your ignorance that makes you arrogant.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
Human Beings are the Original Genome from creation. The Gorillas degenerated away from the parent Genome of humanity, and then another time the Chimps fell away from the parent Genome. So the Humans never were like the Apes and then "Evolved" by Mutations over time by Natural Selection. " Methodological Naturalism" is a Materialist Atheist theory of Evolution without a shred of empirical evidence to say " this is the mechanism" that causes one Species to become another higher Species.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
The Human Genome was built in Abiogenesis apart from any other living creature and each separate case of a living organism repeated it's own creation events by the millions and millions of separate unique occasions. It never happened that one living cell did mutate and evolve to produce all other living creatures, that is a Big Fat Lie. There is only micro evolution and then Extinction for any species by their Genome. the Inferior is not evolving into the superior . That is FALSE !!!
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
Modern Science's basic assumption about time and the past is built upon an archaic belief that time is steady in passing and so the behavior of the world is steady. There is no proof that matter existed under the same present laws of nature, since the world is expanding and constants of the Laws has been measured for too short a time to reveal if there are quantum leaps of the time and behavior of the Universe, when it was in another relationship of a smaller and smaller place.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione there are four basic ways information can be added or removed from the genome. this is ONE of the systems by which evolution works and duplications is one of these methods. we've known about how these work for MANY years yet you are complete ignorant. do you know why McExpert? because you obviously have only read websites that agree with you and your understanding of biology is so laughably feeble you obviously have not had the intelligence to think for yourself.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics yes you can degenerate the Genome, but the Genome is not overall growing by Evolution into any Higher Order, it was built originally in Abiogenesis and degrading over time and has an Extinction Event due to Natural Causes. That means, the Genome did not evolve from a simpler Genome into a higher Genome, but the Genome, can DEVOLVE to take the Human Genome and give us medically defective zygotes that end up as the gorilla and then the chimp. They DEVOLVED away.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione wow an absolute load of crap, there are multiple ways the genome can grow and subtract, and you just went on a petty rant of no substance. tell me you went from saying there was no mechanism dna could increase and when I proved you wrong with an example basic enough for you to understand you instantly change the topic.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics You continue to deny that millions of separate seeds or cellular Genomes came out of the ancient oceans to populate the world with creatures factored within established Genomes, that then did not evolve one out the other. You refuse to answer that vital foundation of information, because it shows overall that evolution was a minor player and that Genomes have a life expectancy they cannot evolve out of, they do not become higher ordered, rather they go extinct over time
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "You continue to deny that millions of separate seeds or cellular Genomes came out of the ancient oceans to populate the world with creatures" I never said anything about that at all. you're a typically non-scientific fool who just brings up random topics when I refute your stupid claims such as there being no way to add information to the genome. you are clearly another McExpert who reads some wikipedia and then checks out a creationist website for the rest of your information.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione Tell me, you are the one dealing in ABSOLUTE statements that are easily refuted such as your claim there is no known way genetic information can increase in the genome. yet you are so stunningly ignorant of basic biological concepts you could not even translate an mRNA into an amino acid. do you know what that tells me? YOU UNDERSTAND NOTHING OF GENETICS. you think 5 minutes on the internet reading creationist blogs makes you an expert on evolution.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
Mendel's Law on Inherited Traits is the basic Law in Biological Sciences, that this video claimed is not the substitute for Evolution. Evolution is false, Mendel's Law is observable and testable Law. Evolution is an unsubstantiated claim that one species evolves into all other species by mutations over time, by natural selection. That is a wordy priori assumption that is literally all BULLSHIT . Magical Words built by Visual Delights, teasing the senses by avoiding proofs.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "Mendel's Law on Inherited Traits is the basic Law in Biological Sciences" right thanks for demonstrating how ignorant you are yet again, as I said, Mendel's laws are referred to as SIMPLE in most scientific textbooks because just as einstein expanded on newtons ideas, modern scientists have realised genetics is a LOT more complicated than what mendel's initial work found. he was not wrong, just did not have close to the full picture
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
No Scientist ever created Life, and Atheists assume they can explain Life ? Why does RNA exist ? Why does RNA behave ? What has the entire Universe and all it's Laws have to do with the first thing required for any of this "Behavior" Life is not a machine, it is a Behavior within machines. Deux Ex Machina -the Ghost in the Machine, the only Logic is, something else was Alive as the Prime Behavior that is then merely a Talent on Loan, as on loan from God. All roads lead to Rome.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "No Scientist ever created Life, and Atheists assume they can explain Life" actually the way science works is that it says "this is what ALL the evidence thus far demonstrates". it does not do what you do and invent facts because you want to. your entire argument is 'if you cant explain it, god did it". tell me how is that explanation any different than in the middle ages when they did not understand disease so they said "god did it"???
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
The basic fact that Evolution is false, is our knowledge that after the Human Genome was attained in Abiogenesis, as a collection of billions of genetic sequences, that the whole cabal of this Genome was deteriorating over time and not becoming higher in any orderly sense, but just as we all get old and die, the Genome is decaying, not evolving and it has an Extinction Event, all due to actual Laws of Natural Causes, So, genomes do not improve over time to become higher ordered systems
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione wow and now you're too cowardly to reply directly to me. I find it completely hilarious how a rude, insulting ignorant person online suddenly thinks they know everything about biology. your understanding of evolution comes from creationist websites. you STILL think that Mendells work has not changed, you do not understand basic scientific definitions and you do not even understand how to work out an amino acid.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics So, you can take come amino acid, shoot it up with a stimulant and run some static charge through it and what ? What ? You can make DNA ? No man has ever made DNA , only borrowed the existing DNA and manipulated it, You ain't got no punch, You are on the ropes, you got a glass jaw. All talk, no results. There is no Evolution, there is Abiogenesis and degrading aging of the Genome and eventual Extinction. No Life has ever evolved out of it's Design.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "you can take come amino acid, shoot it up with a stimulant and run some static charge" wtf are you talking about it? you not only lack an understanding of the answer, you are too ignorant to even understand what the question was. if you are too stupid to even understand such a basic question i am in awe of your arrogance to presume how much you think you know of biology. just from reading wikipedia.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
Gradualism as a branch off Evolutionism, using false mathematical logics, are teaching students to attain an awakening of the necessity of their Intellect to destroy the waste of humanity, on the premise of the "unsustainable " climate and Biosphere of Earth, that they must prepare their own minds to chooses freely to act out and incur draconian measures to save the planet and permit the higher evolved Intellectuals to inherit the Earth . Jesus said the Meek shall inherit the Earth.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione you do not have the SLIGHTEST understanding of biology yet you believe that because you spent 5 minutes on wikipedia thats a degree. the strongest evidence for evolution is based on genetic research into how duplications occur, as one very BASIC example. oh and I say basic because your understanding of biology is so laughably weak I wont even bother bringing anything else in. if you dont understand how to convert mRNA to an amino acid, you're little more than a child.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics "Duplications" is not Evolution, you lose again.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione ""Duplications" is not Evolution, you lose again." wow another immature response. If you ever read my statement you would realise duplications of dna was a very simple process I used as an example to refute your weak claim that there is no way to add information to the genome. YOU were the one who was refuted. why did i use a simple example? because up til a few comments ago you did not even understand the definition of a theory. you really are another McExpert.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics I read many reports, such as the Nylon Eating Bacteria. that sought to prove evolution, and lengthy peer reviews found no evolution had actually occurred, that such lateral shifts is just part of Mendelian Genetics without proving anything about Evolution. Yes, you have lost, because no experiment has been able to survive lengthy peer review to confirm the discovery of the claimed mechanism of evolution. The Evolutionists keep saying, "some aspects have been shown"
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "I read many reports" lol no you go to creationist websites and get them to tell you exactly what you want them to. if you do not even understand the most basic of scientific concepts like how to work out an amino acid then there is no way in hell you would even have a chance of understanding the methodologies of the papers you come across. "Yes, you have lost" what an immature comment, particularly coming from someone who claimed there was nothing to increase genetic info
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics Don't try to dazzle me with your verbal talents. Show me one conclusive empirical scientific study that proved, conclusively that there is a mechanism for evolution that increased the information to the Genome. Dawkins could not answer that one, but maybe, what the hell, you are about to make your case, where the experts , under severe scrutiny were shot down as merely espousing theoretical scientific assumptions that have no empirical evidence to conclude the fact.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "increased the information to the Genome" as I said before, a frequently observed event is duplications occurring which added information to the genome. after the lenski experiment when bacteria evolved the ability to metabolise citric acid guess what? they had done an analysis of the genome before and after the experiment and guess what? GENETIC INFORMATION HAD INCREASED.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics you said " all the evidence thus far demonstrates" What a liar you are, you have not ever, ever demonstrated the fact of anything that evolved by Evolution's claims. You exist in the present tense and work with cues and clues of the past world, which you cannot empirically touch. You always default to saying '
" What must have happened" like playing Sherlock Holmes with clues , which none of it, has anyone witnessed. So , Genetics has not proven Evolution at all.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "What a liar you are" right except for genetic evidence which allows us to determine how related species are, thousands of fossils including many many transitional ones. vestigial organs. there are countless examples of speciation occurring, from species of fireweed DOUBLING there chromosomal count from original stock. the Faeroe Island house mouse in just 250 years of being brought to the island evolved into a completely DIFFERENT species than the ancestor brought to the island
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics Maybe I was too hard on you, Okay, tell me one "Natural Process" maybe that is out in your back yard pond, etc. That causes the mRNA to carry a message from the DNA to the Ribo etc. Go ahead Einstein, tell me one Natural Law or Process that explains why there is a DNA and RNA "BEHAVIOR" go ahead, you put your foot in your ass, go ahead and tell us why RNA behaves to carry messages from the DNA and gives a blowing out your ass damn about it !!!
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
George Bernard Shaw used Darwinism to say all humans have no real inherit value and the only god is the Collective or the State. That means by Evolution, you must prove your worth, gain by merit your status and earn your existence, or you are only an ape and if a chicken or a pig can be slaughtered, than a humanoid being can also be butchered and there is no SIN !!! First they have to convince you to destroy the individual sense of Conscience, that comes only by a Faith in God.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
A Law is Universally impacting all things. If you drop a cannon ball and a house key from a tower, at the same time, they both accelerate at the same rate. That means there is a law. Evolution does not impact all living things, amoeba and ants have been without evolution. The bacteria in our stomachs has not evolved to consume us. It is clear to any intelligent student who has a mind to ask for TRUTH, that Evolution is not a Law, but a sickness devouring modern Sciences to do evil things.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
If Evolution was true as a gradual Law of arising new species, then why are the Apes still Apes ? There are so many clear contradictions to any belief in Evolution as the main factor to explain the diversity of Life, that it can not be called either Fact or a Law. Evolution has become only a Euphemism used by the Illuminati and Atheist Intellectual to force a division among our people as to who has the right to exist on the planet , and who is " destroying the planet" a False Religion.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
Science is a Latin term in origins, borrowed from the Greek term "Gnostic" The Church taught that all human beings are created equally as valuable to God in their being. But the Illuminati, that supported the rise of Science, or Gnosticism, they advocated making a difference , that while all flesh is evolved, those with the gift of illuminations, or I.Q. to be "Awake Intellectually" are a separately breaking out species of humans, who need to destroy the inferior species of humanity
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
" All men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" Darwinism is a Beast of Babylon ,seeking to degrade the Innate Value of each individual human life as nothing more than an evolved Ape, so that only those with "Intellectual Achievement" have this God Like achievement that makes them Superior to all others, justifying the liquidation of all lesser humans, without conscience that they are actually Murderers
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
Darwinism is about the exceptional Gnostic Illuminati or Intellectually Awake humans who have rationalized that all others are merely apes and animals and dispensable as slaves, while the Illuminati as "gods" by virtue of Intellect, their extra dispensation of inequality, wish to depopulate the world and take the land for their Utopia. The Declaration of Independence for Americans says , once the Kings claimed to be more human, and we as commoners were less human , mere animals.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
Charles Darwin was never a scientist, he was an English Gentleman, the sort the Illuminati would say are "Humans" who are intellectually awake, while average sort of Commoners are mere animals. Darwinism is an Intellectual Gimmick to return Humanity to a Division between the Intellectual Elite, who by their "Illumination" are "Awake" as humans , while the rest of us are "Apes" like the rest of the Animals. Evolution contradicts our Emancipation Proclamation of Equality as Humans.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
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Charles Darwin was an adventurer who wrote travelogues, Gregory Mendel, the Catholic Monk, was the true Scientist , whose Law of Inherited Traits is the actual and true Science of Biological Genetics, and not "Evolution" which is not a Law nor has ever found any mechanism for evolution . Evolution by Mutations is about degenerations of the Genome after they were produced by Abiogenesis , and shows they have a limited life span, The Genomes do not overcome death by evolving,
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
Charles Darwin was an adventurer who wrote travelogues, Gregory Mendel, the Catholic Monk, was the true Scientist , whose Law of Inherited Traits is the actual and true Science of Biological Genetics, and not "Evolution" which is not a Law nor has ever found any mechanism for evolution . Evolution by Mutations is about degenerations of the Genome after they were produced by Abiogenesis , and shows they have a limited life span, The Genomes do not overcome death by evolving,
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
Life never began by Evolution on the Earth. The RNA rained down as cosmic dust from the heavens, the motion of the oceans encased the RNA and mixing with Earth Elements, the DNA appeared Earth Bound and captured inside mineral based molecules, called a "Cell" But the real life is the tiny DNA sequences from the Cosmos, and they capitalized and cannibalized and assembled into SEEDS which each held billions of Genes and produced unique creatures without EVOLUTION being a major player .
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
Evolutionists think they can enter a discourse on the minutia of Mendelian Genetics , and speak about the DNA breakdowns , and think that is a discussion about evolution, but they are liars of the worst sort. Genetics is not principled upon any sort of theory of Evolution, but it does hinge on the Law of Inherited Traits that does not require any evidence of "Evolution" having ever occurred in the DNA Genome. One species does not evolve into another species, they both had unique origins.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
A Law in science means, if you apply the Law to various masses, they must have a uniform behavior under the influence of a Law . But Evolution is not a Law, because some lifeforms do not evolve at all for millions of years and others seem to have undergone adaptations, but none have ever moved as a single species into another species. There is a lock ,a mechanism in the design of DNA, in it's functions that prevent Evolution from occurring and that no man has shown the Mechanism for Evolution
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "A Law in science means" no, that is your definition of a law which you obviously invented in your head. tell me if you do not even understands the definitions OR basic biological concepts on what basis are you making your claims about evolution? you're just another idiot talking shit on the internet after spending 5 minutes on wikipedia.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics I stand on the facts , not your opinions. a Law is Universally impacting all things equally in the Creation. There is no "Opt -Outs" Evolution appears to have so many opt outs for so many organisms, that have never evolved at all, that there is no such evidence that Evolution is a Law, but some isolated facts that yet have no known mechanism that can increase information to the Genome. No species has ever broken out of the lock of their species to evolve into another
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
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@AussiePolitics I stand on the facts , not your opinions. a Law is Universally impacting all things equally in the Creation. There is no "Opt -Outs" Evolution appears to have so many opt outs for so many organisms, that have never evolved at all, that there is no such evidence that Evolution is a Law, but some isolated facts that yet have no known mechanism that can increase information to the Genome. No species has ever broken out of the lock of their species to evolve into another
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
Francis Crick who discovered the DNA , said that " although it looks designed, you must not say that it was designed, you must say it evolved, because that is all that makes sense to me" And so the Evolutionists insist on making "sense" not facts that can be proven . The Priori of the Scientist is built on a list of Assumptions that they either must prove or give up eventually, and when that becomes an Atheist Religion, they cannot give it up at all, they become BELIEVERS !!!
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "Then you drop your bullshit facade of being "Scientific" and admit Evolution is only a Theory" so since I had a go about you not understanding what a theory is now you've looked it up and changed evolution to being just a 'hypothesis'. I do find it amusing talking to a person who 5 minutes ago did not even understand the definition of a theory. you still do not even answer my question which confirms how little you know. you know NOTHING about basic biology.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
Theoretical Sciences is no excuse to create Atheist Religions out of it. The Star Gazers had precise measurements of planetary motions and eclipses, they began to "Believe" in bowing down to the Sun, Moon and Stars. It took a long time to convince these fools that their "Materialistic Measure" was just a RUSE and not real Knowledge about the Cosmos . Evolution is bar stool chatter about things that really do not matter, and the magic cannot be actually performed as feats.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione wow you're really good at your rhetoric but all you're doing now is making bullshit comments. funny how the kind of people this seems to come from are those COMPLETELY and UTTERLY devoid of even the most basic of biological principles. wow this test really is useful for testing those who are talking shit. AGT mRNA codon and amino acid please. you're deliberately not replying to me because you wont admit you do not understand a THING about biology.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
Evolutionists are like Vacuum Cleaner Salesmen, They can try to sell you , but they can't fix a damn thing to save their lives. While they try to hose you , they actually SUCK under pressure.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
There are two divergent paths of Science today, one is trying to figure out how life can exist and change over time, and the other is trying to figure out just what is "Intelligence" and can that be applied to the Universe or its causation. Someday when these two separate pursuits end up crossing each other's path, we might have found the God in the Mystery of Everything. until then, I have Jesus and a Cross where I met God. Case Closed.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione oh and by the way, two enzymes in the histidine biosynthesis pathway are the result of a duplication of DNA. however I doubt you have any understanding of what I am talking about. all you are is rhetoric, you are completely ignorant of basic concepts of biology. tell me, what mRNA codon does AGT on the DNA template strand running 3'-5' code for? and while you're at it what amino acid does that translate into? you're just another armchair expert.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics If someone put a gun to your head and said " Okay , you go into the laboratory and you make up some living things we want, or we will shoot you !" Then you drop your bullshit facade of being "Scientific" and admit Evolution is only a Theory, and you can't actually do this "MAKING THINGS UP" stuff !!! Then you get undressed by TRUTH and you get wrestled to the Mat. You are just talking talk, not using Potential anything to create Kinetic something ! Idiot.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione yet again you go back to your petty insults. you demonstrate how little you know because again you have confused evolution and abiogenesis. "admit Evolution is only a Theory" yep another armchair expert who does not even understand what a scientific theory is. i really wonder what the point is in talking to people like you who do not even understand the most basic definitions, make big claims like no known way for adding genetic information (so easy to refute).
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics Maybe it would be more Scientific if you just did not talk shit and did shit.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione wow more insults. funny how you people demonstrate so much ignorance about basic scientific concepts and as soon as you ask them an extremely basic question about genetics they have a little bitch. come on, what does AGT code into? mRNA codon please and then the amino acid it is translated into. or are you just going to insult me again because you do not even have the education of a first year uni student?
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics Funny, you did not get the Nobel Prize for doing anything meritorious in Science ? How did they overlook your data ? Oh, you had a display at the "Science Fair" and now you are for hire as "The Science Man" ???
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione wow another petty immature comment, completely ignoring the question. you are so supremely arrogant to believe you are some kind of expert on biology and evolution, so I asked you an extremely basic question. you have no clue do you? know why that is? because you're just another idiot who spent 5 minutes on google and think that makes you intelligent. sorry but you are too ignorant to even understand a first year genetics question.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@Aussie Darwin was not ever a Scientist and was actually an "Adventurer " who wrote Travelogues and look how far he got !!! Mendel is the Scientist and determined the Law of Inherited Traits. You worship the guy who had no knowledge but made a pleasing hypothesis that you insist is a Theory , while Mendel's Law is called inconsequential to the falsification of any such hypothesis of evolution being graduated to the level of a Theory. What is the difference between Scientific and Science ?
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione "You worship the guy" actually you fool evolution has changed significantly since darwin. oh and by the way, in modern biology we understand that inheritance patterns are a lot more complex than simple mendelian genetics. "you insist is a Theory" I do not, modern biologists regard it as a theory as it explains all the evidence thus far uncovered. however I do find this amusing - you changing the topic again. you really do not know the answer to my question do you?
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics Where you stand the Moon is rising, but where I am the Sun is rising and I must go to bed. Seeya on the campus.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione lol if you ever did go to a campus it most certainly never was anything related to science. you people are so arrogant to act like you understand anything about evolution but you did not even know what a theory was, what duplications were OR what a basic segment of DNA codes into. do you know what that tells me? I am talking to someone who knows NOTHING about biology. still its the ones who know least that are the loudest on these issues.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics In the old days the Sorcerer's Apprentice waved his wand and uttered Abracadabra and expected magic to exude out of him, but today it is the chant of Methodological Naturalism . Things called Scientific is not actually Science. Technology is the test of mettle, if you can do the "Making" or just Jive talking . Can you Mutate a retarded child into a genius level intellectual or not ? Can you regrow a missing limb for a child who stepped on a land mine ?
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione wow this is how you respond when I ask you a simple factual question about what amino acid AGT codes for. your response is an immature tirade that since we dont know everything you should not have to answer a basic question about biology. go learn some basic biology before attempting to argue about things that go way over your head.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics There are billions of genetics sequences and you cannot move a single improvement to the human genome by "evolution facts" you claim you have under your "Knowledge" I told you , you are all bullshit, Only if they put a gun to your head, you would plead guilty of your offense, for what you really are is a Magician, who is able to fool some of the people some of the time , but you cannot fool all the people all of the time. You have no "Knowledge" You are a LIAR
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione so tell me, from my perspective I see a petty immature fool who writes crap on the internet about biological concepts yet has shown time and time again you do not even understand the most simple of concepts. if you cannot even work out a simple amino acid then I question how much you know. you're just full of hot air and rhetoric. AGT mRNA codon please or again you show your ignorance.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@AussiePolitics Let's see the total idiot you are. You say Evolution is a Fact and you understand it all. So, why don't you genetically progress the human genome and extend human life to two hundred years. And why don't you give sight to those born blind by evolving the needed mutations in the genes ? You are the biggest sort of bullshit artist the world has ever seen. All Talk, no Glory.You can't show a single demonstration of technical prowess to prove you are worth a bowl of soup.
CarmineFragione 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione wow the venom really comes out when I test to see if your knowledge of biology extends past wikipedia. "You say Evolution is a Fact and you understand it all" now you're making things up again. I said that evolution was the theory which was consistent with and explained all the evidence.
your knowledge of evolution obviously comes from creationist websites and wikipedia. if you cannot even work out something as basic as an amino acid then you obviously have no understanding
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione all the petty arguments you come up with show that you've just googled opinions online. you have no understanding at all of basic biological concepts. why do I bother talking to someone too ignorant to even understand what AGT codes into? you demonstrate a breathtaking amount of ignorance yet you are so arrogant to presume yourself a McExpert on evolution.
AussiePolitics 4 months ago
@CarmineFragione see this is why people like you are irri