Yes, Luciano sang it well, but he's not there to give a concert. How humiliating for the student to watch him sing the whole aria for him. Everything Pav said before "per esempio" was good advice, and then he had to indulge himself with an aria he loves, and the only opportunity to sing it for a captive audience.
I'm just fed up with tenors getting all the attention, a tenor records a bass song higher, and everyone says it's great, but if a bass records a tenor song lower, you get loads of people saying it doesn't fit in context being that low... if they pay any attention at all.
@Dragonianfire I haven't heard a bass singing a tenor aria but I'm sure it could be good. ;P It's unfair sometimes, I know, but there's a reason that tenors get the most attention. But I agree that lower voice types are unfairly in the shadow sometimes. I myself am a baritone (not professional though.) haha
When sung by a great voice which isn't too covered or dark, they can sound incredible. My singing teacher often sings the tenor parts in during my singing lessons, he's a lower voice type than me and it's incredible! Also, there is a recording of Hvorostovsky singing O Sole Mio, you should search for it, what a voice! <3
Pavarotti was able to really convey the message and the feeling with the piece. The voice is clear, Italian his native language. Decise and dramatic, still melanchonic and light, recitato. Dynamics at their best, listen: "Ai ricchi ed ai potenti"... I'm impressed how much far he still remains from almost everyone else.
I firmly agree with the fact that after Mº Pavarotti's "intimate proposal" Mr. Robert Briggs gives a more heart-touching rendition. I am preparing the part and I am certainly going to accept Mº's consigli.
One of the magical qualities of Pavarotti's voice was the luminous nature of his tone which seems to radiate light like the facets of a diamond. Just vibrant and touching to the depth of the soul.
hey it sounded far better when he followed the advice. Pavarotti did not only have a beautiful voice but he made just the best of it. I loved this mans work. he knew how to make us happy and thanks to technology he continues to do so.
You opera queens make me laugh. To suggest that Pavarotti didn't know Puccini was a romantic composer is absolutely ridiculous. Bel canto is a style of singing, not just a period in classical music history. You're trying to prove how smart you are by throwing mud into the conversation. Abraham Lincoln said "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Good advice for you.
I think you are right- if I knew it , I have no doubt at all that Pavarotti knew it, he studied for his art for many years, an dby this stage had been a professional for 20 years at least. He says 'must be considered, in my opinion, bel canto'- he is aware this is an unusual view, obviously. Some would prefer to think he was just lucky to be born with that voice but I think the life of study is evident, and just as admirable as the natural gift.
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Holy cow!Puccini was a bel-canto composer.What a hilarious joke especially when it comes from an acclaimed Puccini singer such as Pavarotti. His words make my opinion about him even stronger.He had a glorious voice during his prime but he was totally clueless about interpretation.He sang mechanically without caring about the meaning of the notes and words he was singing.
He probable will say that Bellini is a Verismo composer, just to keep his consistency on this theme. Although he commited a blooper, I think you're exagerating a bit. He was neither mechanical or clueless about the words.His performances from the 70's speak for themselves.
I'm not affectioned by Pavarotti like most people here, but he meant that ALTHOUGH Puccini was a 20th century composer the aria should be sung in bel canto style. That was clear.
By the way, if you disliked this Pavarotti's Masterclass conduction, you will surely hate Domingo ones. Domingo is very annoying. Always interrupting and trouting. He even orders the piano player to let him do the piano too.There's always someone more egocentrical :S
isn't that the point of a masterclass? to learn all you can in a short amount of time? I would want placido domingo to share all he could with me, were i in his masterclass. And the only reason he jumps behind the piano, is so that he can effectively demonstrate what he wants.. placido domingo is one of the least "egocentric" singers of our day
Maybe you have a point in there. Off course for an opera singer is a rewarard of a life to have a Master Class with Maestro Domingo, but he barely let the students/professionals sing without interrupting. It's not really productive. It would be like a 100m athlet being stoped for each meter and be corrected.Ok, maybe I'm misdjudging his way of directing the masterclasses,but I kinda saw it this way.
Agree and disagree on you. Yes, singing full aria it wasn't necessary with this great bass. Singing a couple of lines would be more than enough. But I gotta admit he was a bit spot on. Using legato makes it sound more melancholical than serious. And yes, the bass guy sings it so much better. What a pitty that this beautiful and rich bass voice got lost.
This guy had a beautiful bass voice. He had so much potential. He won the Luciano Pavarotti International Vocal Competition in 1985 and was appointed as a great potencial musician. Too bad his life of excess lead him to a premature death.
Haha... Pavarotti is useless in the masterclass department...
operaticsnyc 4 months ago
que cara de ojete la de luciano
ellicantropos 6 months ago
NO MATTER WHAT HE SINGS....the man is phenomenal
Isreal94 7 months ago 3
His demonstration was prefect. Live the song, rather than 'singing' it. Bravo.
jacksvoice 7 months ago 2
Come dalla voce d'un basso il prodotto finale diventa la voce del ............ tenore...
bodiloto 10 months ago
HAHA wow, he did that in the same key as Robert Briggs!
Guitsandthings 1 year ago
Tenors have vocal chords like paper; bass' and baritone's are like bull-balls. That said, il maistro is correct. Every word.
whupass95 1 year ago 3
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I agree, if the scrotum of a bull could sing it'd sound exactly like a baritone.
Honken 1 year ago
It is just incredible how greatly gifted Pavarotti was. When he sings this aria I am about to cry. It is unbelievable...
QuiRan82 1 year ago
Yup, Patti was right...
piputhefish 1 year ago
Thanks Patti.
LookitsaUke 1 year ago
That guy is really good !
rafikHany 2 years ago
really love briggs. his understanding of this piece seems to be very dif from that of pavarotti and he seems to refuse to copy pavarotti's vision.
charmingemily 2 years ago
Pavarotti sings this aria almost as well as Caruso, lol!
Seriously though, what a fine singer Mr. Briggs was. A sad loss to opera.
markhh 2 years ago 3
damn what a beard.
Johnoooh 2 years ago 2
unbelievable dude
passerabianca 2 years ago
WOW HE IS GOOD.
Webarton 2 years ago
wonderful voice...wow
vickersman 2 years ago 2
Grazie Luciano per tutte le emozioni che ci hai regalato bellissima versione di vecchia zimarra. bel fraseggio. Addio
sciutomichele 2 years ago
Yes, Luciano sang it well, but he's not there to give a concert. How humiliating for the student to watch him sing the whole aria for him. Everything Pav said before "per esempio" was good advice, and then he had to indulge himself with an aria he loves, and the only opportunity to sing it for a captive audience.
spgtenor 2 years ago
That was beautiful. Pav. should have made a recording of that aria, ha ha. =)
ShawDAMAN 2 years ago 14
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If he was a bass, then yeah! :3
Dragonianfire 1 year ago
@Dragonianfire U dont have to be. Caruso recorded this aria and I believe some others. ;-P
ShawDAMAN 1 year ago
@ShawDAMAN
I'm just fed up with tenors getting all the attention, a tenor records a bass song higher, and everyone says it's great, but if a bass records a tenor song lower, you get loads of people saying it doesn't fit in context being that low... if they pay any attention at all.
Dragonianfire 1 year ago 4
@Dragonianfire I haven't heard a bass singing a tenor aria but I'm sure it could be good. ;P It's unfair sometimes, I know, but there's a reason that tenors get the most attention. But I agree that lower voice types are unfairly in the shadow sometimes. I myself am a baritone (not professional though.) haha
ShawDAMAN 1 year ago
@ShawDAMAN
When sung by a great voice which isn't too covered or dark, they can sound incredible. My singing teacher often sings the tenor parts in during my singing lessons, he's a lower voice type than me and it's incredible! Also, there is a recording of Hvorostovsky singing O Sole Mio, you should search for it, what a voice! <3
Dragonianfire 1 year ago
this one needs a smile like Pavarotti
stillkikkin2 2 years ago 4
Pavarotti was able to really convey the message and the feeling with the piece. The voice is clear, Italian his native language. Decise and dramatic, still melanchonic and light, recitato. Dynamics at their best, listen: "Ai ricchi ed ai potenti"... I'm impressed how much far he still remains from almost everyone else.
lordkrandel 2 years ago 5
I firmly agree with the fact that after Mº Pavarotti's "intimate proposal" Mr. Robert Briggs gives a more heart-touching rendition. I am preparing the part and I am certainly going to accept Mº's consigli.
vaschiciello 3 years ago 3
beautiful bass
flaze3 3 years ago
One of the magical qualities of Pavarotti's voice was the luminous nature of his tone which seems to radiate light like the facets of a diamond. Just vibrant and touching to the depth of the soul.
guitargod97 3 years ago 20
bravo pavarotti! just a little more legato it would be smashing
piax00 3 years ago
A little more legato from Pavarotti?
Mooorhe 2 years ago
What a beautiful voice. Probably closer to a baritone than a bass. What a shame he died so young.
FacePaster 3 years ago 3
hey it sounded far better when he followed the advice. Pavarotti did not only have a beautiful voice but he made just the best of it. I loved this mans work. he knew how to make us happy and thanks to technology he continues to do so.
midsummernight50 3 years ago 4
i think robert brrigs sound more beautiful singing when he sung by the advice of luciano pavarotti.
loveluciano1 3 years ago
You opera queens make me laugh. To suggest that Pavarotti didn't know Puccini was a romantic composer is absolutely ridiculous. Bel canto is a style of singing, not just a period in classical music history. You're trying to prove how smart you are by throwing mud into the conversation. Abraham Lincoln said "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Good advice for you.
Pavarotti is the best!
JackOperaMan 3 years ago 5
I think you are right- if I knew it , I have no doubt at all that Pavarotti knew it, he studied for his art for many years, an dby this stage had been a professional for 20 years at least. He says 'must be considered, in my opinion, bel canto'- he is aware this is an unusual view, obviously. Some would prefer to think he was just lucky to be born with that voice but I think the life of study is evident, and just as admirable as the natural gift.
jenni4claire 3 years ago
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Holy cow!Puccini was a bel-canto composer.What a hilarious joke especially when it comes from an acclaimed Puccini singer such as Pavarotti. His words make my opinion about him even stronger.He had a glorious voice during his prime but he was totally clueless about interpretation.He sang mechanically without caring about the meaning of the notes and words he was singing.
tonyantony1 3 years ago
He probable will say that Bellini is a Verismo composer, just to keep his consistency on this theme. Although he commited a blooper, I think you're exagerating a bit. He was neither mechanical or clueless about the words.His performances from the 70's speak for themselves.
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poor fool.
danibmx1 3 years ago
I'm not affectioned by Pavarotti like most people here, but he meant that ALTHOUGH Puccini was a 20th century composer the aria should be sung in bel canto style. That was clear.
caribolas 3 years ago 3
By the way, if you disliked this Pavarotti's Masterclass conduction, you will surely hate Domingo ones. Domingo is very annoying. Always interrupting and trouting. He even orders the piano player to let him do the piano too.There's always someone more egocentrical :S
Kafkandinsky 3 years ago
isn't that the point of a masterclass? to learn all you can in a short amount of time? I would want placido domingo to share all he could with me, were i in his masterclass. And the only reason he jumps behind the piano, is so that he can effectively demonstrate what he wants.. placido domingo is one of the least "egocentric" singers of our day
mdcam89 3 years ago
Maybe you have a point in there. Off course for an opera singer is a rewarard of a life to have a Master Class with Maestro Domingo, but he barely let the students/professionals sing without interrupting. It's not really productive. It would be like a 100m athlet being stoped for each meter and be corrected.Ok, maybe I'm misdjudging his way of directing the masterclasses,but I kinda saw it this way.
Kafkandinsky 3 years ago
@mdcam89 placido not egocentric - you're kidding?
judelko 5 months ago
@judelko I don't know what preceded your comment, but the hubris of Domingo singing baritone (Boccanegra and Rigoletto) is stupendous!
TheVerdiBaritone 3 weeks ago
Pavarotti is a great singer, and he offers poignant advice here... perhaps he could have refrained from turning a class into a self-display?
VivaMariaCallas 3 years ago
Agree and disagree on you. Yes, singing full aria it wasn't necessary with this great bass. Singing a couple of lines would be more than enough. But I gotta admit he was a bit spot on. Using legato makes it sound more melancholical than serious. And yes, the bass guy sings it so much better. What a pitty that this beautiful and rich bass voice got lost.
Kafkandinsky 3 years ago
God, he was a-ma-zing ! Too bad he died indeed ! The "addio" in the aria is all the more heartbreaking.
archiloque 3 years ago 4
This guy had a beautiful bass voice. He had so much potential. He won the Luciano Pavarotti International Vocal Competition in 1985 and was appointed as a great potencial musician. Too bad his life of excess lead him to a premature death.
Kafkandinsky 3 years ago 5
life of excess? didn't he die from aids?
Yoni89 3 years ago