statistics show that small spread QB's are no more likely to get injured than a big pro style QB. The injuries differ between the two usually but the frequency is almost exactly the same. Good thing we have 2 anyway huh?
There is no such stat that explains this thing -- I realize that you may have read that convoluted bag statistical excrement on MGoBlog that allegedly explains that spread quarterbacks are less likely to be hurt, but you and I both know the legitimacy of that analysis is very easy to dispute.
Fact of the matter is that you have a twig at QB, and he's supposed to be your savior. The rest of the conference is laughing at you guys.
Forcier may be a little smaller than usual but he is only about 10 lbs off from being standard weight. He's about 192 right now and 6'1". Not only that but we have Robinson as well. If one goes down we have the other. I for one am not worried about it. 6 to 8 of the other big ten teams run the spread so I would hardly say they are laughing at our two four star QB's.
Also, the author did a followup with more statistical data and the worst case scenario in the study, the one's vs. the 2's (Henne vs. Juice WIlliams) there is only about a 11% jump in injuries. 5% more than the 3's (pat white). So really we are talking about a 17%(henne) to 29%(Williams). Hardly anything to conclude that Forcier is destine for the hospital. Considering the average in ALL is 23% I'm not worried. A slight difference at best.
Coaches and players inflate numbers -- it's pretty obvious from tape that Tater Tot is no bigger than 6'0" and no heavier than 185 at most.
Robinson was rated as an athlete by all the recruiting services, which means he can't throw the ball worth a shit, so I'd hardly say you have a potent QB attack. Your team has, at best, the 9th best QB core in the Big Ten. Pathetic.
dude, I've stood right next do him and I can e-mail you the picture if you would like. I'm 5'11'' and you can see on the picture he's a good 2.5 inches taller than me. take an inch off for hair and you got 6'1''.
From all practice reports Robinson actually has the strongest arm down field compared to Forcier and Sheridan. But Forcier has way better mechanics and is far more accurate as well as he throws fantastic on the run. Your information is very very wrong and at best a hope not the truth.
You believe that Robinson (who completed around only 50% of his passes in HIGH SCHOOL) is going to be a more than competent QB? You're dreaming. What makes you think that completion percentage is going to go up whatsoever? What a joke.
I don't know if you know this, probably not, but at WVU Pat White ran 70% of the time. All Robinson needs to do is complete short out-rout passes or bubble screens in order to be a great QB in this system. With Forcier I'm sure RR intends on passing a lot more than running. The two QB's are fundamentally different when running the scheme but both should be able to come in and win.
"All Robinson needs to do is complete short out-rout passes or bubble screens in order to be a great QB in this system."
That's all Sheridan and Threet needed to do last year, too, but they didn't pull that off well at all -- and Threet was an ELITE 11 QB!!! You can't run the ball if you can't sell out on the pass. Same thing will happen with Robinson. Ha.
The difference is that this year we have two senior Qb's healthy and an o-line with everyone returning. All things considered we should be able to run the ball. Threet WAS an elite 11 QB - but some players just turn out to be busts. Last year threet was running the offense with the 4th string RB most of the time. Robinson also has the added bonus of running a 4.3 40. Threet - not so much.
On top of that, this offense requires a QB that can run. When one can't the whole idea of the run game goes out the window. If the other team knows the RB is going to get the ball and threet isn't going to run the ball they just overload the line and get him. Look at what happened the few times Threet kept the ball last year, a 50+ yard run against Wisc comes to mind. Now place a sprinter in that position (robinson) and we have ourselves a TD.
Or Forcier will just pass the ball, and then break a long run on ND for a TD.
Forcier is the no. 1 QB at Michigan. Denard will be what Tebow was his freshman year, which was basically running to the side for a play, then went back to the sideline. Since him and Forcier are both freshman QBs, I see shoelace doing that and going to receiver for most his career.
Forcier, like all dual threat quarterbacks, will be injured and incapacitated by the end of this year. RR runs a system that relies on the QB run too much, and little Tater Tot is going to be broke in half once Big Ten play starts. LOL!
we shouldn't hate osu because they've dominated the rivalry over the last 5 years or because they beat us 42-7 we should hate ourselves for letting them
meatchickens? seriously? are u 4 years old? osu fans can't come up with a better insult that meatchickens or scUM for you guys: FUCKEYES, hairless nuts, OSUCKS.
an yet...what's your record against Michigan...oh i dunno.. ALL TIME? and OSU bowl record the past decade? Don't talk when you get blownout in every bowl CHAMPIONSHIP game you've had lately.
Look man I'm showing mad respect for the rivalry, the least u could do is call Michigan by their name. I see your postings and almost wanna say something but with the way your reacting to comments I figure why bother? All ur gonna do is downgrade our school without having a decent and intelligent conversation. So you can either keep posting like u are and show immaturity or have a decent, well compossed discussion and see how intelligent u really are ;)
Yes lsu beat osu but did we? I had when michigan fans bring up success that other teams had against osu. WE NEED A WIN... scratch that WE NEED A WINNING SEASON before we talk down 2 ohio st.
Are you nuts?! OHIO needs to win the championship 1st. Ohio lost to FLA next season FLA play's Michigan and loses in Lyod Carr's last season. Same Gator team Same Michigan success. 1 losing season and its all over with? pbsh
1st off it's Ohio State not Ohio. 2nd if it was the "Same Gator team" that OSU faced, we would've got killed. And where was our "Michigan success" against OSU? and it's not over with you're right and I think RRods headed in the right direction, but why are u talking about Ohio State? They beat us the last 5 years! The least we could do is have some respect 4 them.
It was more towards the direction of a comment earlier. OSU has a great NFL turn out...And within the next 3 years I bet Michigan will take 1-2 games easily.
As a USC fan and a proud pac 10 fan i don't like much big 10 teams but I give props to Michigan as if i had a fav Big ten team it would be you guys i know this past season wasn't good but hey it was a new year and this year will shape up I'll root for The wolverines until you guys come to the west coast until then good up up north give em hell :)...
apparently, another un-informed OSU fan. ask this fag how many big ten titles they have, as opposed to michigan, or national titles, matter of fact. Michigan dominates OSU in EVERY statistical category, except convicted criminals.
gofucks you are a 23 year old dumbass who does not understand the rivalry, and all you can do is show your ignorance by talking like a true cOck SUcker that never put on the pads!!!!
again..Gosux you are a 23 year old dumbass who does not understand the rivalry, and all you can do is show your ignorance by talking like a true cOck SUcker that never put on the pads and NEVER played a down!!!!
How many times do i need to catch your dumbass on Michigan videos talking shit?? How friggin pathetic, get a life gayblade, NOBODY cares about your moronic views! Just get back to your lovers hairy-ass and stop obsessing over Michigan Football TROLL!!
What a friggin LOSER!
P.S. Displaying muscle dudes on your channel is directly linked to homosexuality.
the only joke i see is a pussy talking shit that never put on the pads and played a down. when you want to talk in your big boy voice come and play ball son, till then keep telling yourself that your team is the greatest.........right???? last 4 bowl games you lose.... you choke on the SEC's cock 2 years in a row in the title games of all things. then you choke again to Texas. what , way to represent cOck SUcker. your team is the greast choke artist of this century period!!! JUST ASK THE SEC
why are you on every michigan video? seriously! nearly every video i have watched has your comment somewhere...michigan DOES dominate you in every statistical category. look stuff up before you post. michigan has 21 big ten titles since 1969. that means most were won after world war II dumbass
You must have a serious case of torret syndrome. All you do is "haha" it up.
"haha, I'm a douchebag"!
Like I said, there is no way to verify that the picture is you (which by the way resembles Zohan with a corn cob wedged in his ass), so I'm going with you're a flamboyant cock gobbler.
YOUR team will be the joke in '09, defense in shambles, no proven RB, no go to WR's, a drama boy at QB....I forcast many riots in cbus on the horizon.
yah cuz this shit is hilarious. you dumbfucks get so pissed off a few recent stats cuz you know michigan blows now and you lost the last 5. so you bring up other teams who beat OSU to try and upset us. none of us care. we beat you the past 5 years. michigan blows now. its hilarious. thanks for the laughs.
Forcier is ther perfect coach for this offense. I was amazed how good he was already at this point. Also I heard he never did any weight training until he got to michigan. Said he was only lifting with a 45 lbs. on each end of the bar. He is going to get so much faster than he already is. Stronger too. There is so much more room for improvement.
gorman......shouldnt you be brushing your "tooth"? Way to come out of the hills and reply....RR is gone...get over it as quick as you did when your cousin left you
if there a will there is a way i will go there reasons go inside get a tour inside of the stadium and see past present and future u of m stars plus i believe in rich rod and this year
I can't wait! I will be there! I heard there is going to be alot of new things they are doing this year for the spring game to make it more like a real game! Should be sweet!
I will be there! Hope to see a lot of Michigan fans there. I think coming off of a 3-9 season, seeing a lot of fans supporting them for the spring game will really pump the players up for the upcoming season. Anyone who lives within a reasonable distance from the Big House should attend.
Its free admittance, not only that but its open to the public!
I'm so excited for when Forcier gets broken in half this season, just so I can say "I told you so!"
WithExtremePrejudice 2 years ago
statistics show that small spread QB's are no more likely to get injured than a big pro style QB. The injuries differ between the two usually but the frequency is almost exactly the same. Good thing we have 2 anyway huh?
dabeev 2 years ago
There is no such stat that explains this thing -- I realize that you may have read that convoluted bag statistical excrement on MGoBlog that allegedly explains that spread quarterbacks are less likely to be hurt, but you and I both know the legitimacy of that analysis is very easy to dispute.
Fact of the matter is that you have a twig at QB, and he's supposed to be your savior. The rest of the conference is laughing at you guys.
WithExtremePrejudice 2 years ago
Forcier may be a little smaller than usual but he is only about 10 lbs off from being standard weight. He's about 192 right now and 6'1". Not only that but we have Robinson as well. If one goes down we have the other. I for one am not worried about it. 6 to 8 of the other big ten teams run the spread so I would hardly say they are laughing at our two four star QB's.
dabeev 2 years ago
Also, the author did a followup with more statistical data and the worst case scenario in the study, the one's vs. the 2's (Henne vs. Juice WIlliams) there is only about a 11% jump in injuries. 5% more than the 3's (pat white). So really we are talking about a 17%(henne) to 29%(Williams). Hardly anything to conclude that Forcier is destine for the hospital. Considering the average in ALL is 23% I'm not worried. A slight difference at best.
dabeev 2 years ago
Coaches and players inflate numbers -- it's pretty obvious from tape that Tater Tot is no bigger than 6'0" and no heavier than 185 at most.
Robinson was rated as an athlete by all the recruiting services, which means he can't throw the ball worth a shit, so I'd hardly say you have a potent QB attack. Your team has, at best, the 9th best QB core in the Big Ten. Pathetic.
WithExtremePrejudice 2 years ago
dude, I've stood right next do him and I can e-mail you the picture if you would like. I'm 5'11'' and you can see on the picture he's a good 2.5 inches taller than me. take an inch off for hair and you got 6'1''.
From all practice reports Robinson actually has the strongest arm down field compared to Forcier and Sheridan. But Forcier has way better mechanics and is far more accurate as well as he throws fantastic on the run. Your information is very very wrong and at best a hope not the truth.
dabeev 2 years ago
You believe that Robinson (who completed around only 50% of his passes in HIGH SCHOOL) is going to be a more than competent QB? You're dreaming. What makes you think that completion percentage is going to go up whatsoever? What a joke.
WithExtremePrejudice 2 years ago
I don't know if you know this, probably not, but at WVU Pat White ran 70% of the time. All Robinson needs to do is complete short out-rout passes or bubble screens in order to be a great QB in this system. With Forcier I'm sure RR intends on passing a lot more than running. The two QB's are fundamentally different when running the scheme but both should be able to come in and win.
dabeev 2 years ago
"All Robinson needs to do is complete short out-rout passes or bubble screens in order to be a great QB in this system."
That's all Sheridan and Threet needed to do last year, too, but they didn't pull that off well at all -- and Threet was an ELITE 11 QB!!! You can't run the ball if you can't sell out on the pass. Same thing will happen with Robinson. Ha.
WithExtremePrejudice 2 years ago
The difference is that this year we have two senior Qb's healthy and an o-line with everyone returning. All things considered we should be able to run the ball. Threet WAS an elite 11 QB - but some players just turn out to be busts. Last year threet was running the offense with the 4th string RB most of the time. Robinson also has the added bonus of running a 4.3 40. Threet - not so much.
dabeev 2 years ago
On top of that, this offense requires a QB that can run. When one can't the whole idea of the run game goes out the window. If the other team knows the RB is going to get the ball and threet isn't going to run the ball they just overload the line and get him. Look at what happened the few times Threet kept the ball last year, a 50+ yard run against Wisc comes to mind. Now place a sprinter in that position (robinson) and we have ourselves a TD.
dabeev 2 years ago
Or Forcier will just pass the ball, and then break a long run on ND for a TD.
Forcier is the no. 1 QB at Michigan. Denard will be what Tebow was his freshman year, which was basically running to the side for a play, then went back to the sideline. Since him and Forcier are both freshman QBs, I see shoelace doing that and going to receiver for most his career.
Swazi4 2 years ago
Forcier, like all dual threat quarterbacks, will be injured and incapacitated by the end of this year. RR runs a system that relies on the QB run too much, and little Tater Tot is going to be broke in half once Big Ten play starts. LOL!
WithExtremePrejudice 2 years ago
i think at the very very very best tate forcier can become a zac robinson or a colt mcoy. But we have a more run oriented spread.
thabest1995 2 years ago
GET WELL, GET WELL SOON, WE WANT YOU TO GET WELL ! Re: (Michigan Football Program)
rhoejaqueswift 2 years ago
fuck ohio state
pussypoppinteam 2 years ago
we shouldn't hate osu because they've dominated the rivalry over the last 5 years or because they beat us 42-7 we should hate ourselves for letting them
GOBLUE97GRAD 2 years ago
You Damn Meatchickens are always gonna suck!!!
89lemonhead36 2 years ago
meatchickens? seriously? are u 4 years old? osu fans can't come up with a better insult that meatchickens or scUM for you guys: FUCKEYES, hairless nuts, OSUCKS.
Tigersfan829 2 years ago
I personally like Missagain. Much better and is so true.
driver8train 2 years ago
if he's a 4 year old, you must be a retarded 4 yr old.
ya fuckin meat chicken
rhoejaqueswift 2 years ago
that wasnt a good insult either
Tigersfan829 2 years ago
I sure do hate Michigan!!! ..all I have to say is...
AN APPALACHIAN NATION BABY!!
89lemonhead36 2 years ago
Go ahead and hate. People hate the great.
Most wins ever with (872) and highest winning percentage with (.740) in NCAA Division I-A football history
The most winning seasons (110)
The most undefeated seasons in Division 1-A football (25)
11 National Championships
GO BLUE!!!
massey1984 2 years ago
an yet.. what's your record against O-H-I-O State in the past.. oh.. I dunno.. DECADE???
89lemonhead36 2 years ago
an yet...what's your record against Michigan...oh i dunno.. ALL TIME? and OSU bowl record the past decade? Don't talk when you get blownout in every bowl CHAMPIONSHIP game you've had lately.
mikesell8888 2 years ago
Tressel 4-3 in BCS bowls and I think 7-1 against us... we need 2 get our program back on track before we insult theirs
GO BLUE!!!
GOBLUE97GRAD 2 years ago
Hey, look -- an intelligent Meeeeechigan fan. Whaddaya know?
WithExtremePrejudice 2 years ago
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Brewhaman 2 years ago
Here u are again.. like always lol have a nice day Brewhaman. geeeeeeeesshh!!!
GOBLUE97GRAD 2 years ago
Look man I'm showing mad respect for the rivalry, the least u could do is call Michigan by their name. I see your postings and almost wanna say something but with the way your reacting to comments I figure why bother? All ur gonna do is downgrade our school without having a decent and intelligent conversation. So you can either keep posting like u are and show immaturity or have a decent, well compossed discussion and see how intelligent u really are ;)
GOBLUE97GRAD 2 years ago
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Brewhaman 2 years ago
lol ummm thats old ass hell umm but didnt lsu beat the shit out of you goooo tigers
cools190 2 years ago
Yes lsu beat osu but did we? I had when michigan fans bring up success that other teams had against osu. WE NEED A WIN... scratch that WE NEED A WINNING SEASON before we talk down 2 ohio st.
GO BLUE!!!
GOBLUE97GRAD 2 years ago
lol 'you do got a point bt naw we didnt beat lsu that year we beat florida
cools190 2 years ago
Are you nuts?! OHIO needs to win the championship 1st. Ohio lost to FLA next season FLA play's Michigan and loses in Lyod Carr's last season. Same Gator team Same Michigan success. 1 losing season and its all over with? pbsh
ashtonw05 2 years ago
1st off it's Ohio State not Ohio. 2nd if it was the "Same Gator team" that OSU faced, we would've got killed. And where was our "Michigan success" against OSU? and it's not over with you're right and I think RRods headed in the right direction, but why are u talking about Ohio State? They beat us the last 5 years! The least we could do is have some respect 4 them.
Let's go Blue give us a winning season!!!
GOBLUE97GRAD 2 years ago
It was more towards the direction of a comment earlier. OSU has a great NFL turn out...And within the next 3 years I bet Michigan will take 1-2 games easily.
GO BLUE! GO BIG TEN!
ashtonw05 2 years ago
Weeerrrrreeeeee BaaaaaAAaacK.
jasson708 2 years ago
Preseason 47-55 range is nox exactly back. In fact, its a long way from being back.
driver8train 2 years ago
all the haters should just wait and see
Michigan will be back and we'll be on top of the Big Ten and the Nation
jgonyer38 2 years ago
As a USC fan and a proud pac 10 fan i don't like much big 10 teams but I give props to Michigan as if i had a fav Big ten team it would be you guys i know this past season wasn't good but hey it was a new year and this year will shape up I'll root for The wolverines until you guys come to the west coast until then good up up north give em hell :)...
IRISHMOBSTER55 2 years ago
apparently, another un-informed OSU fan. ask this fag how many big ten titles they have, as opposed to michigan, or national titles, matter of fact. Michigan dominates OSU in EVERY statistical category, except convicted criminals.
sportz1968 2 years ago
The majority of those accomplishments were achieved before World War II. Other than that, the stats against OSU are weak.
CutTheTension3 2 years ago
gofucks you are a 23 year old dumbass who does not understand the rivalry, and all you can do is show your ignorance by talking like a true cOck SUcker that never put on the pads!!!!
soulflyx69 2 years ago
The Ohio State Buckeyes had 95,722 fans at their spring game. New National Record for a spring game.
gobucksfu 2 years ago
congrats, and we will continue to hold the record attendance for the REAL games
michiganman889 2 years ago 2
you know i noticed something about that guy gobucksfu he is really proud of a spring game......... ha ha ha ha ha ha.
soulflyx69 2 years ago
what a gay youtube name... soulflyx69? what are you 3? going around yelling 69 and shit. your football team blows. kill yourself
3-9 hahahaha
gobucksfu 2 years ago
again..Gosux you are a 23 year old dumbass who does not understand the rivalry, and all you can do is show your ignorance by talking like a true cOck SUcker that never put on the pads and NEVER played a down!!!!
soulflyx69 2 years ago 2
Like "gosucksfu" is a "great" youtube name.....that's some funny shit anal wrangler!
Brewhaman 2 years ago
gosucksfu:
How many times do i need to catch your dumbass on Michigan videos talking shit?? How friggin pathetic, get a life gayblade, NOBODY cares about your moronic views! Just get back to your lovers hairy-ass and stop obsessing over Michigan Football TROLL!!
What a friggin LOSER!
P.S. Displaying muscle dudes on your channel is directly linked to homosexuality.
Brewhaman 2 years ago 2
haha your post has no relevance to footaball...its just verbally attacking me. muscle dudes is me but whatever cockboy.
42-7
lost 5 years in a row.
basketball player as a starting QB prospect hahhaha. fucking joke team!!
gobucksfu 2 years ago
the only joke i see is a pussy talking shit that never put on the pads and played a down. when you want to talk in your big boy voice come and play ball son, till then keep telling yourself that your team is the greatest.........right???? last 4 bowl games you lose.... you choke on the SEC's cock 2 years in a row in the title games of all things. then you choke again to Texas. what , way to represent cOck SUcker. your team is the greast choke artist of this century period!!! JUST ASK THE SEC
soulflyx69 2 years ago 2
i see carr produced a classy person.
3-9
lost the last 5
gobucksfu 2 years ago
Classier than you, gobucksfu.
Soulfire21 2 years ago 2
why are you on every michigan video? seriously! nearly every video i have watched has your comment somewhere...michigan DOES dominate you in every statistical category. look stuff up before you post. michigan has 21 big ten titles since 1969. that means most were won after world war II dumbass
Tigersfan829 2 years ago
"haha"?
You must have a serious case of torret syndrome. All you do is "haha" it up.
"haha, I'm a douchebag"!
Like I said, there is no way to verify that the picture is you (which by the way resembles Zohan with a corn cob wedged in his ass), so I'm going with you're a flamboyant cock gobbler.
YOUR team will be the joke in '09, defense in shambles, no proven RB, no go to WR's, a drama boy at QB....I forcast many riots in cbus on the horizon.
We'll have the final laugh of '09!
~GO BLUE!!
Brewhaman 2 years ago
yah cuz this shit is hilarious. you dumbfucks get so pissed off a few recent stats cuz you know michigan blows now and you lost the last 5. so you bring up other teams who beat OSU to try and upset us. none of us care. we beat you the past 5 years. michigan blows now. its hilarious. thanks for the laughs.
gobucksfu 2 years ago 2
We never show class to the ignorant. maybe you should look in the mirror before you go knockin on your neighbors door.
soulflyx69 2 years ago
maybe you should slit your wrists next time your near warm water.
but then again, maybe you should just wait until the wolverines play again to kill yourself.
joke program now.
gobucksfu 2 years ago 2
i'm selling signed michigan hats and a football on ebay!!! pm me if you are interested
Tigersfan829 2 years ago
When can we play West Virginia?
JWI01 2 years ago
Tate and the offense had a great day, over 50,000 fans showed up, and all left happy with what they saw, over 100,000 fans next year? i hope so...
Go Blue..
GamblerLV 2 years ago
like the kicking, lol
michiganman889 2 years ago
hopefully Forcier can be our man.
rylant31 2 years ago
Forcier is ther perfect coach for this offense. I was amazed how good he was already at this point. Also I heard he never did any weight training until he got to michigan. Said he was only lifting with a 45 lbs. on each end of the bar. He is going to get so much faster than he already is. Stronger too. There is so much more room for improvement.
rewares2 2 years ago
Really? No weight training at all? Well RichRods strength and conditioning coach is gonna have a ball with Tate then!
Swazi4 2 years ago
lolz?
billiestoot 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I think instead of playing ones vs. twos yall should invite App. State to come play you guys for yall annual spring football game
gormar21487 2 years ago
gorman......shouldnt you be brushing your "tooth"? Way to come out of the hills and reply....RR is gone...get over it as quick as you did when your cousin left you
pladsailboat331 2 years ago 4
OK.
gormar21487 2 years ago
if there a will there is a way i will go there reasons go inside get a tour inside of the stadium and see past present and future u of m stars plus i believe in rich rod and this year
810steveo 2 years ago
Go Blue!!!
wolve1817 2 years ago
I can't wait! I will be there! I heard there is going to be alot of new things they are doing this year for the spring game to make it more like a real game! Should be sweet!
Imawolverinefan1 2 years ago
I will be there! Hope to see a lot of Michigan fans there. I think coming off of a 3-9 season, seeing a lot of fans supporting them for the spring game will really pump the players up for the upcoming season. Anyone who lives within a reasonable distance from the Big House should attend.
Its free admittance, not only that but its open to the public!
rendle3000 2 years ago