The History of India is mostly by Foreigners, they dont even know to pronounce the places in India... Now we are having a fabricated history which is using to divide indians..
The majority of Europe speaks an Indo-European language that appears to have its roots in a Proto-Language that is believed to have originated between the Caucasus Mountains and ancient Mesopotamia including Zagros mountian,.Caucasian race of people" is an invention in 1795 by J F Blumenbach, a German,who based his conclusion on the beauty of a Georgian female skull found near Mount Caucasus.These people believe the Caucasian people began to fracture about 5,000 B.C. its meaning great Kurdistan
Kid.. you need to get your facts right!!!How would Christianity be helped by dividing the religious groups in India? It will get enough ppl to convert into Christianity..Proof : look at the current conversions that are happening.. Why would dividing India into South and North help the British ? Think logical dude.. its always easier to rule over a divided group then a huge one!!!
@pramodbadri When have I ever disputed this? "Christianity" is not a person that sits around brooding on how to oppress the darkies. Furthermore, modern-day anthropologists, archaeologists and linguists have corroborated the theory. There are no modern "Aryan" and "Dravidian" "races", but there certainly is a linguistic divide that was created by historical patterns of migration.
@pramodbadri It was the vatican church in cohorts with the british and the mulims, read about Max muller who was hired to warp thousands of years of history.
Look at mother teresa, who was also a fake saint, over glorified agent of the vatican, who took most of the donations to the swiss bank account to help make many churches around the world. Rad about the nun's who quit being under her.
Max muller tagged sanskrit as Indo- aryan, created fake Aryan invasion theory etc etc...
@pramodbadri : Yeah these bullshit theory only helping christians to increase there head count in Indian.They r persistently spreading there hate propaganda in India.
I have a lolly pop for kid as per study there is a genetic relationship between all Indians .
The great Indian divide along north-south lines now stands blurred. A pathbreaking study by Harvard and indigenous researchers on ancestral Indian populations says there is a genetic relationship between all Indians and more importantly, the hitherto believed ``fact'' that Aryans and Dravidians signify the ancestry of north and south Indians might after all, be a myth. (TO Sept 2009)
@Contu.. ``This paper rewrites history... there is no north-south divide,'' Lalji Singh, former director of the Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology (CCMB) and a co-author of the study, said at a press conference here on Thursday.
Senior CCMB scientist Kumarasamy Thangarajan said there was no truth to the Aryan-Dravidian theory as they came hundreds or thousands of years after the ancestral north and south Indians had settled in India.(TOI sept 2009)
@TheGioCool my NATIONALITY is Nepalese but my RACE is MONGOLOID.
In Nepal we have 4 races. General observation made by social/cultural anthropologists have identified four racial groups in Nepal by looking at the physical features of Nepalese people as below namely
1. Mongoloid (ppl that looks like chinese, korean, viet. oriental asian)
2. Aryan (ppl that look like (Iranian, afghan)
3. Dravidian
3. Proto-Australoid
In Nepal Aryan have dominated all the political powers in Nepal.
I am from Nepal. Right now happiness has disappear from Nepal.
The Aryan (Brahmin-Chettri) who have past been ruling Nepal with discrimination, suppression of indigenous Nepalese have destroy Nepal. Nepal today is in a mess. Probably ethnic war between Mongoloid race vs Aryan race in the Himalayan might solve the problem. watch this video for indigenous Nepalese who are Mongoloid race and support them.
This kid is a fucking moron! He keeps saying "umm what does that mean" if you don't know then shut up. The kid has no idea of the politics behind the Aryan invasion theory. Hinduism is not a mix of the Vedic + Dravidian religion! Hinduism is the. Vedic sanathan dharma!
Kid, stop wasting your time with immature comments, get a life and an education instead!
dude how the fuck aryan invasion theory prove the supremacy of christians.. thats just stupid. Aryan invasion theory credits aryans with rich hertitage and dates them back to 1700bc. which was even long before christianity came in to existence.what it proves though is that dravidians were the actual ppl who had arrived before the aryans did.
NOT again!! Guyz come on, indians are of one race ... hinduism landed in india and not western countries or middle east countries..meaning indians are have the sole right for swastika and sanskrit..of coz it is to be share with the world..
@GRAVITIFICATION Once again, there are no modern "Aryan" and "Dravidian" races. They're just language families whose ancestors were spoken by distinct ethnocultural groups.
Hinduism didn't "land" in India - it's not an alien. It *developed* there. Indians do not have the sole right to the Swastika and Sanskrit. Freedom of expression is one of the fundamental human freedoms; my ability to use of any symbol or language should not be affected by my country of origin.
@SaimDI what do u mean by there are no modern aryan or dravidian races??.....arnt there ppl of aryan heritage today?? like rajputs and jutts of punjab
@nilliterto Yes, that's true, but North and South Indians do not have on average substantially different genetic markers. In North India you have an Aryan linguistic heritage, and in the South a Dravidian one, but in terms of genetics and culture what we have is the result of millenia of mixing and syncretism (and there is probably also Dravidian influence in pronunciation and grammar on Indo-Aryan as well).
@nilliterto more aryans ? my dear to know arya please read the vedas , arya was never a race and no one is arya by birth as per vedic texts , a person who wore a sacred thread and follow rituals of vedas is know as arya (noble one) and is never restricted to any race , now i think you are missing many things the north is always a war zone where people for Scynthiya , Prarthiya , Grees , Mongol etc. came and got settle and adopt the local culture secondly climate played a major role
u dumbass the theory itself makes noo sense since it says that the aryans arrived to india in about 1500 BC and the aryan religion which IS Hinduism it is no Dravadian and sanskrit is an aryan language the Hindu epics took place at about 5000 BC + there is noo way that the aryans came from around mesopotamia in 1500 BC the aryans have been in india as long as the dravidians have. there is lots of other proof of the theory being incorrect and u should really use proper sentences stop saying UMM
Not only ignorance,that can be cured,most horrible type of stories and blaming even those great experts as fraud,this moron even not fit to be added in the race of humans.
Saraswath, I know. He actually thinks everything begins and ends with Islam. He actually thinks Islam created the first rocket. A simple google search could be of help but then again, he doesn't believe in science. Maybe he can join the Flat Earth society.
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LOL Sara Swamy monkey, or should I say sara swami puta, lol. you can keep dreaming these fantasies but realize no one, including the majority of indians will believe you. you are making up bullshit... you subhuman creature.
Why have you met her in person?Oh I am sure you can walk into her house any time you want.What the heck is wrong with you?She is very pale skinned in real life as well.
Basically an Aryan Nationalist,if you want to call it that.But his logic is flawed,every South Indian is a Dravid/Austral African admixed and every North and East Indian is a 'Arya Jat'.
But Rigveda clearly says those Asuras were defeated and made to out of India by Aryan King Sudas.Those Asuras group later followed Zoroastrianism with their God Asura(Ahura)Mazda founder by Zoroaster.
The history that you claim doesn't exist outside of your fantasy mind. So I am guessing you think you will wake up one day and look in the mirror and see a white girl? hahaha, no offense.....
There's objective history and your version of history. I'd rather rely on objective data from renowned scientists and historians than your version. So who's living in fantasy? That would be you.
And what makes you think we want to be white girls. We are who we are and if you don't like it, it's just too bad. At least our country and culture is not stuck in the 7th century. Maybe that's why you don't believe in science either.
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yeah? What on earth has south india ever done for society? It was the aryans that started civilization. It was the persian muslims that created algebra and it was islam that perfected medicine and astronomy. come again biatch? It was islam that even created the first missle rocket. Like I said, come again???????you slumdog cow worshipper....
Sorry it was an Indian brahmin that invented the number system including the number zero. Medicine started in Egypt and Ayurveda is Indian. Islam didn't even exist until 600 BC. And yes the Persian mathematician al Khwarizmi was influential in Algebra. But by then Chinese, Indian, Sumerian & Greek cultures were already flourishing.
If you were such great thinkers, what's happened to you now? Go look up Nobel prizes by country and you'll see your country is nowhere to be found.
The reason you have to insult Hinduism and Indians is because you don't have a cogent argument and you are on the wrong side of history and facts and you know it. And your use of vulgur language is indicative of your limited vocabulary.
Frankly I don't even enjoy responding to you because I may inadvertently insult many nice Afgani people. Too bad you are not one of them.
I'm a proud worshipper of cows and monkeys. Maybe if you had more reverence for all living beings, you wouldn't be killing each other and lead a more productive life. Most Hindus couldn't care less what you think of us.
As for being ugly, we couldn't be that bad after all. India is tied with Venezuela in winning the most Miss World.
BTW, the Indus valley civilization is attributed to Dravidians who are today's South Indians. Indus civilization is more than 5,500 ybp - about 4,000 before Islam was even a concept. As for us being slumdogs, we are not even in the top 50 poorest countries in the world but your country is in the top 10.
the REAL Dravidian proper are Dark skinned Caucasoids and not the South Indians who tend to resemble reduced Australian Aboriginals.They migrated to India in the early neolithic age and brought Dravidic languages with them and introduced agriculture to the Austro-Asiatic aboriginals.Later on,they got linguistically replaced in the north by the Indic Caucasoids and racially bred out by Weddids/Australoids in the South.The Indus was the doing of the Indics and not the Dravids btw.
The Aryans started civilization, huh? That's strange, because the Sumerians (non-Aryan, in case you didn't know) were the first civilization, then the Harappans (not Aryans) and another civilization in what is know China. Mesoamerica and the Andes also developed civilization independently.
Maybe you should do up some reading on Physical Anthropology.The Sumerians,Elamites and the Indus Valley people were the same race i.e the Indic race.The type that is common in Pakistan and NW India and Higher Caste Hindus.The IVC was hit by natural calamities,there was no bloody invasion.But there is a racial difference no doubt.
No, the Sumerian & Elamintes are related to the Dravidians not the Indo-Aryans. Secondly, the consensus is that the IVC was a Dravidian civilization. The only ones that claim it was an Aryan civilization are the Pakis.
Look, I myself am a N. Indian Brahmin and would very much like for it to be an Aryan civ. but facts are facts.
Hello mate,I am a Southy Brahmin.Even I was under the impression that Indus was the doing of the Dravidian speakers who were dark skinned Caucasoids but I read some of David Frawley's works and he proved that the IVC was most probably the doing of pre-Vedic Aryans.Of course you may refute this if you like cause I am open to you giving me the real picture.And Dravidian=not today's south indians.
Now I have a doubt,because the Swastika is found on the Indus Seals,not to mention tons of inscriptions with bovine animals.The Vedic religion also lays emphasis on the revering the Cow..
So I still have my doubts.
Also the examination of Sumerian skulls show that their strongest sub race was Orientalid Alpinid~ a sub race also very strong in South Indian Brahmins - who are traditionally seen as Indo Aryan migrants from the North who brought higher culture to the South.
so are dark skinned indian claims ties to Aryans while saying that the better and stronger afghans are arabs. hahahahahahahahahahahahah ILMAO. You freaking sad monkeys.
Also, hindusim itself in it's modern form took alot from greek myth. The aryans were Zoarastrians, but tolerant to other religions as well. The Avest itself states that aryans were zoarastrians, not hindus.
LMAO,Brahmins and Kshatriyas will forever be more Aryan in every aspect be it the features,the language or the religion than people who follow desert a.k.a Semitic religions
What you said was so stupid I will not even reply with an answer. read over what you said about afghans being desert followers or semetic ppl. that in itself is an idiotic respose dude... shame on u
Well that is where you are mistaken. Afghans and Iranians were the only ones that were following the Aryan religion of Zorastrianism before the conquest of Islam. After we embraced Islam, we no longer accepted Zorastrianism as our religion as life moves on dude...
PKPMom,Sorry for the ignorance here.Rigvedic verses are very old and those 1700BC details are simply bull shit.
I will sent reliable astronomic details if you need.
The oldest details in Rigveda gives astronomical details around 4300BC which are proved by our modern computers as accurate and confirmed by all modern discoveries such as dried Saraswathi river discovery and Gulf of cambay underwater discovery.
Will you stop trying to cover your indian insecurities by claiming ties with the aryans? just accept your nationality and have some pride in it for goodness sakes. Most indians I know accept that aryans were noble horseman from the north. ONly some south indian freaks like you hold on to this theory. Stop making up nonsense.
Accusing the British is stupidity. Before the British came, India was divided into 55 states and they united it. If you say their policy was "Divide and Rule" why is India still torn with so many divisions, why did the caste system not go with the British and still remains to full effect. Why does the government of India application forms still ask which caste you belong to. The only reason could be to promote this system and reserve all the good things of this land to the their secret society
The crafty Aryan people have hundreds of theories to the Indian people as well as the world that they belong to India and this their land. They have successfully done this because they are the legal government here and they wrote the history books in their favor anything to make themselves legitimate, in fact they have come to the point of proving that Dravidians or native Indians are illegitimate and have no right to this land, thats how smart they are, they need a kick in the ass
Dravidian (austral-african, black) admixture : Sachin Tendulkar Nagarjuna Anil Kapoor Parvez Musharaf APJ Abdul Kalam Rani Mukherjee Aishwarya Rai Shah Rukh Khan Khaleda Zia Pratibha Patil Meira Kumar Atal Bihari Vajpayee George Fernandes Chandrababu Naidu
The Indo-Aryan invasion was not from outside India but from within ancient India. The Manusmriti identifies the Kiratas(Indo-Mongoloid) as one of the eleven tribes who inhabited the Indus-Saraswoti region.
The expansion of Indo-Aryan led to assimilation of others culture into vedic society.
Still today the form of Sivaism in a crude form exist in Mongolia and by Kirat people in Nepal.
Here's the video:
"Connexion of Mongolia-Kirat:Revealing the Mystery of Origin of Phallus Stone Worship"
Those Aryan Invasion theory created by westerners only for those who kept their brain in the knee.
Those western experts considered that they can fool Indian as such.
Seeing foolish comments here though this Aryan invasion theory totally debunked long ago but still some morons are talking this means,those western experts not entirely wrong on the mental ability of some Indians.
Yes, and all the linguistic, genetic and cultural simmilarities between the Indo-European peoples are just coincidences? I think people are politicising the issue too much - this happened a long time ago and yes there is proof of it! Debunked by whom?
Actually it was the other way around..a certain group of Brahmins actyallu settled in Iran - go check out the Avestas where it mentions the Vedic brahmins & references are made to Hindu Gods lyk Vayu, Maitreyi, Surya etc etc & ancient Persians wore the sacred thread as do the Zorashtrains of today.
India in total had three migrations if we consider Out of Africa theory true. The first time was Australoids who mostly ended up in Australia but their traces can be found in tribes of India. Then there was another group which we can call as dravidians who came from Persia and third Aryans who also came from the same region but a very huge time gap.
This would also explain why elamites and dravidian laguages have similarities. Now coming to the genetic makeup of the Indians. (cont'd)
(cont'd) Major lower caste Indians (higher density in south but also large portion in north) had genetic traits of dravidians than upper caste Indians. But interestingly from the patriarchal side traces showed Aryan traits for almost all the Indians(both north and south).
Then there is mixture of Greeks, Scythians and Parthians. These mixtures can be found even in South west and south central region too. Synthians ruled over AP too.
''Aryan Invasion theory was not proved false as the Hindutva people who did not want them to recognized as outsiders. '' = I can't understand what u mean here.
Did u watch the video in my post, before u replied? If not watch it. I am no expert on this subject - but there is more than enough evidence that the Aryan invasion didn't happen. Darius invaded India the 5th or 6th century, way after the presumed Aryan invasion.
The assole in the video = a child of 14. So excuse him.
Sudarshan Raj Tiwari in his book The Brick and the Bull, 2002 (Pg. 23) states, The similarities among the cultural practices of bygone days leave little doubt that the Kirats did indeed come from the Indus-Saraswati Valley.
The Manusmriti identifies the Kiratas as one of the eleven tribes who inhabited the Indus-Saraswoti region.
India is very ancient country.The antiquity of India is such that the Mahabharatha war took place exactly in 3129BC as per astronomical information of two eclipse less than 15 days details
As per Aryabhatta details the Kaliyuga started in 3102BC.
As per Mahabharata Lord Krishna died 27 years after war,as per records Kaliyuga started immediately
How all are confirm one another.
These above are again proved my modern discovery of dried river Saraswathi recently.
even in the bible there a one line saying one of the middle eastern emperor(i dont know his name) he ruled from Europa in the west to Hindu country in the east.that means india is popular country even in ancient times
The bottom line ppl, for those who are arguing, is that the Aryans were of middle eastern physical type. The Dravidians were originally of middle eastern physical type as well. They are also found in Sardinia, Greece & Egypt as well (under different names as well).
To the author of this video: you're right caucasians don't exist (and I'm a "white" person saying
(continued) this. Europeans are made up of 2 physical types: Original Upper paleolithic ("Cro magnon") Europeans (who evolved in Europe during the Ice age), and Middle Eastern physical types (some would call them "mediterranean" types). Middle easterners migrated to Europe about 10,000 years ago (during the neolithic) and brought agriculture/farmong with them. They are, more than likely, the ones who built Stonehenge. Getting back to the Dravidians, both DNA & study of ancient remains proves the
(continued 2) Dravidians are related to Greeks, N. Africans (Maghreb) etc. I will say that I believe the Aryans already did exist in India, and just subdued the "lesser" races (Austrics, Dravidians, Negritos). They didn't realize the Dravidians were a branch of their same type. The bottom line, people: no 1 is a race. And, unless you want to go back more than 10,000 k, you won't find one!
what a load of shit aryans did not come from india
here's proof
"The earliest reference to this word in an Iranian context, however, predates Zoroaster and is attested in non-Gathic Avesta; it appears as airya, meaning noble; as airya dainhava (Yt.8.36, 52) meaning the land of the Aryans; and as airyana vaejah, the original land of the Aryans; this term, it seems, was adopted in remote antiquity by Iranians as their national identity "
Well, the word Arya appears in its original form in several places in the Rg Veda which is estimated to have been written somewhere between 1700 - 1100 BC. The Avesta I believe is dated around 1,000 BC.
The Rig Veda also only refers to India as Aryavarta. That is not to say that there weren't Aryans in Iran as well at that time.
actually you are wrong. there is no concrete fact or evidence that the avesta existed around 1000 BC. Major historians say that the avesta and the zoarastrians existed around 8000 BC.
Alot ppl here claim to know the history of the aryans, but fail to know the first king of the aryans. Afghans know this, persians know this and his name was Yama Badsha. Also, people fail to realize that the aryans came from a very cold area, this is north of russia, Then they migrated to where is now afghanistan and created an empire, taking bahrat and then creating civilizations to the north and west (europe).
See, a genetic research that is biased means nothing. It is just another means of fabricating the truth. How many afghans, pure afghans were included as part of that genetic test? I will tell you. NONE. Just like people don't know diddly squat about the rest of afghanistan history. THe greeks hated the persians, this is why much of western history is biased... as it is taken from the greeks. SO what genetic evidence are you refering to? Lets put it to the test shall we?
So you want us to take your word over medical geneticists. Look you have your history and we have ours. I think we know ours better than you do. I don't presume to tell you about yours, so don't tell me about mine.
Again, your scietific study is nothing more then fantasy. If indians had ties to Aryans, they would not be so different looking and so weak, as in enslaved by thousands of people. No offense, but facts are facts, and if you don't have that, have common sense. Unless you can prove that india was genetically tied to Cyrus the great of persia, or unless you can porve that he lied when he said he was an aryan, you should keep your mouth shut.
Look the word Arya itself is Sanskrit. Just because you keep repeating it over and over again won't make it a fact. As for Indians being monkeys, I'm honored because we have great reverence for all living beings. The state of your country speaks for itself.
There is nothing wrong with our country. It is in the aryan gene to take shit from no one. That is why every powerful or weak nation that tries to fight finally faces a fierce battle. I am not speaking politically here, but just from a charactersitic stand point. Just because there is a reference of the word arya in your book called the veda, it doesn't make it sanskrit. Aryans took over the indian region long time ago, and they were considered nobel. Afghans are still considered Maliks (Nobles)
I'm not saying there were no Aryans in Afg. What I'm disputing is your comment that Afg. taught India everything. As for the word Arya, it is Sanskrit. Look in any dictionary. And there are multiple references to it in the Rig Veda.
It was the persians that later on changed the name of india from bahrat to Hindustan. Stan is a farcy word meaning land of. The vida documents a noble ppl coming from the north and civilizing the indian region.
You might have fairly good analytical skills, but its quite clear that you need to read and learn a lot more before you comment on these things. Also, I would recommend improving your presentation skills. Your body language, lack of fluency while talking etc. make your videos quite irritating.
U have to cm to India to knw what he meant,Anti Hindus use the Aryan theory to make Hindus not feel proud of their heritage, Mostly it was done in the South just to shw tht Aryans subdued the Dravidians and brought the Caste system,Although such ppl said tht to fight caste system in India, The christian missionaries later used it to justify y Hinduism is bad and xanity is good and does not have caste system etc., and also to prove hindusim was also foreign, to mk xanity appeal more to locals.!
Hinduism isn't foreign, it's indigenous to India. It originated as a MIXTURE of Aryan religion to the north (it has many similarities to the Iranic, Celtic, etc. religions) and the indigenous Dravidian religion (which MAY have came and supplanted/mixed with the aboriginal Adivasi culture).
u guys r a real pain, read about nostratic term, study read understand analyse about tamil language, sanskrit language , pali language,..veda thihasa, aagama, purana, islamic migration,...etc nor just ggole or merely reading some article on internet or few books which is not sufficient. colonisation, ...impacts...etc
Pearl, my questions don't make me a high school boy, the fact that I go to high school, am younger than 18 and have a penis do.
I am in the process of growing up, learning and studying! However, that does not give any credence to Hinduism111's arguments, nor does it refute my rebuttal! You're 26, that's fairly young too - an 80 year old could say the same to you!
Yes it does, only a high school boy could have commented on such logic. it's good that u r in the process, u r not yet enough to come on such topics that too with foolish reasons and conclusions. there is nothing in your rebutta. and so much of your thinking that hinduism came from iran, and dravidian came from adivasi culture. either u r a south indian who lives in abroad and u want to think of yourself as something that u never were. or u r a white from the west, either way u r fooling yrself
You haven't actually taught me anything, all you've done is repeatedly say "You're wrong!" and "You're a young Westerner so you're opinion doesn't count!"
Do you think you opinion counts ? u r doing the same to hinduism111 with your kiddish and funny logics. you arguments shows how much did u study or understand and how much is your fantasy. that's why it puts u as a school kid nothing more. if you are searching for the truth, you will put another video once u find the truth if you ar just fantasizing such ideas then u will just keep talking about all the igoistic western historians did
Why you hating on the youngster just because he is mature enough to admit that it was the aryans that came into india from Iran/Afghanistan, taught you how to read and write as well as created your language. They have found now relics in afghanistan that proves human existance there form more then 60,000 years. That's ten times more history then your india. Plus, the name india came from "hindustan" which itself is persian. So stop being such a kid and admit the truth.
kid u r dim witted, pretend to be smart, first scientifically there wasn't any strong ground, DNA studies..haplogroup studies have prove it that the the Indians are of from the same racial pool, Aryan means noble, martial, intelligent, elder, wiser,...not depicting a particular race, and the word Dravidian itself a corrupted from Damida of pali, Wikipedia it is not a reliable resource u moron, it can be edit by anytom dickhead like you, either u must be racist singhalese or dick head caucasion
Hey moron, why dont u try listening to what the kid say in the videos. He made it clear that the aryan and dravidian are NOT two different races. There is no racial difference between the Aryans and Dravidians. The Aryans and Dravidian are two groups who differed in language in culture. Indians culture is more of a hybrid of Aryan and Draviidan traditions. Hinduism is a groups of religion rather with influences from both groups. No race is involved. Just language and cultural differnce
listen u fool, there wasn't any such thing called dravidian or aryan in term of race, culture or language.
dravidian means southerner of the land of three border of ramparian, there wasn't any hybrid traditions. proto hinduism or hinduism wasn't a group of hinduism, even language difference wasn't much if u read more about nostratic (panini & agasthiya - shiva myth) but there isn't any culture difference till the muslim invasion...
Nostratic is a hypothetical language that is proposed by those that wish to find an ancestral language for both Dravidian and Indo-European. It has not been proven to be a fact. Dravidian doesn't mean Southerner. It comes from a the word Thamizh->Damila->Dramila->Dramida->Dravida.
Still today Kirat people in Nepal follow their own traditions and culture. While many Nepalese became Hindus, Kiratas had their own religion called "Mundhum" based on nature, ancestors worship and also shamanistic.
Kirat people do not cremate the dead but bury and pork and alcohol are central parts to Kirati culture unlike Hindus.
watch "Connexion of Mongolia-Kirat:Revealing the Mystery of Origin of Phallus Stone" which which felled into Vedic religion later.
u know litle about my country, first u r not a indian born, second u have lease knowledge, I am not playing politic, how u will understand us, when u r not even belongs here, well the proto dravidian and the literary tamil is not heavyly sanskritised apart from Telugu, kannada and malayalam, second the sanskrit itself heavily influence by dravidian grammar structures and also loan words. nevertheless our culture, religion, language, race everything is unseparateable, pinion with each other
as such we can't disregard the merit of (Lord sivas order of panini-agasthiya mission for language) In the nostratic term - Proto Dravidian Languages and Eurasian languages standing side by side as a sister language.
Finaly Veda was composed in India by Indians and all the relevant articles are purely incidents taken place in India and there is no sense saying that someone came with chariot or elephant from central asia or europe to invade india..which is ignorant
How about instead of saying this you actually argue? Hm? This is not a real argument. I am interested in the history of the Indian subcontinent, so I can't voice any opinions on it? I can't voice any opinions on any country other than Australia? Haven't you criticized Pakistan, America, etc. before?
Regarding the language stuff, they're still separate linguistic groups. English is influenced heavily by Latin, but that doesn't make it a Romance language.
off course, u read little here and there and then start to debate or argue like a phd student, it is difficult for guys like u to understand the truth or analyse it, all the scholars that u r refering infact have done enormous studies and yet draw a derogatory remarks such as Max Muller and chadwell.. all this bloody whites to imposing the white supremacy over the advance indian civilisation that they have discovered, all east India company craps.
No, Oohviyakiruki, that's not true. I'm not saying that this is where I stand permanently, or that I 'believe' in this Aryan migration, just that "Hinduism111"'s arguments were false.
suggestion!! read about Matsya Avatar..Manu..King of the Dravida..big flood..building a ark....migrating from south to north..the lemuria theory.. Sangam age and its quote regarding the deluge (kadal kohlal) it will giv few ideas about the indian race & religion...etc
you tube 'Ancient Aryans'... like it completely kills Aryan theory in India hurry up!!!
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The History of India is mostly by Foreigners, they dont even know to pronounce the places in India... Now we are having a fabricated history which is using to divide indians..
MrBlendSter 4 months ago
The majority of Europe speaks an Indo-European language that appears to have its roots in a Proto-Language that is believed to have originated between the Caucasus Mountains and ancient Mesopotamia including Zagros mountian,.Caucasian race of people" is an invention in 1795 by J F Blumenbach, a German,who based his conclusion on the beauty of a Georgian female skull found near Mount Caucasus.These people believe the Caucasian people began to fracture about 5,000 B.C. its meaning great Kurdistan
goran21715 4 months ago
this kid need proper education
param1177 11 months ago
dude do your work first and read and then say something you have no fuck'in sence of what u saying fuck off
jassi4200 1 year ago
Kid.. you need to get your facts right!!!How would Christianity be helped by dividing the religious groups in India? It will get enough ppl to convert into Christianity..Proof : look at the current conversions that are happening.. Why would dividing India into South and North help the British ? Think logical dude.. its always easier to rule over a divided group then a huge one!!!
pramodbadri 1 year ago 4
@pramodbadri When have I ever disputed this? "Christianity" is not a person that sits around brooding on how to oppress the darkies. Furthermore, modern-day anthropologists, archaeologists and linguists have corroborated the theory. There are no modern "Aryan" and "Dravidian" "races", but there certainly is a linguistic divide that was created by historical patterns of migration.
SaimDI 1 year ago
@pramodbadri It was the vatican church in cohorts with the british and the mulims, read about Max muller who was hired to warp thousands of years of history.
Look at mother teresa, who was also a fake saint, over glorified agent of the vatican, who took most of the donations to the swiss bank account to help make many churches around the world. Rad about the nun's who quit being under her.
Max muller tagged sanskrit as Indo- aryan, created fake Aryan invasion theory etc etc...
Calador2100 11 months ago
@pramodbadri : Yeah these bullshit theory only helping christians to increase there head count in Indian.They r persistently spreading there hate propaganda in India.
19Rizz 4 months ago
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19Rizz 4 months ago
I have a lolly pop for kid as per study there is a genetic relationship between all Indians .
The great Indian divide along north-south lines now stands blurred. A pathbreaking study by Harvard and indigenous researchers on ancestral Indian populations says there is a genetic relationship between all Indians and more importantly, the hitherto believed ``fact'' that Aryans and Dravidians signify the ancestry of north and south Indians might after all, be a myth. (TO Sept 2009)
19Rizz 4 months ago
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19Rizz 4 months ago
@Contu.. ``This paper rewrites history... there is no north-south divide,'' Lalji Singh, former director of the Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology (CCMB) and a co-author of the study, said at a press conference here on Thursday.
Senior CCMB scientist Kumarasamy Thangarajan said there was no truth to the Aryan-Dravidian theory as they came hundreds or thousands of years after the ancestral north and south Indians had settled in India.(TOI sept 2009)
19Rizz 4 months ago
@TheGioCool my NATIONALITY is Nepalese but my RACE is MONGOLOID.
In Nepal we have 4 races. General observation made by social/cultural anthropologists have identified four racial groups in Nepal by looking at the physical features of Nepalese people as below namely
1. Mongoloid (ppl that looks like chinese, korean, viet. oriental asian)
2. Aryan (ppl that look like (Iranian, afghan)
3. Dravidian
3. Proto-Australoid
In Nepal Aryan have dominated all the political powers in Nepal.
diliprai 1 year ago
I am from Nepal. Right now happiness has disappear from Nepal.
The Aryan (Brahmin-Chettri) who have past been ruling Nepal with discrimination, suppression of indigenous Nepalese have destroy Nepal. Nepal today is in a mess. Probably ethnic war between Mongoloid race vs Aryan race in the Himalayan might solve the problem. watch this video for indigenous Nepalese who are Mongoloid race and support them.
here's the video --> "Kiratas:the Himalayas Race"
diliprai 1 year ago
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KingVenusian 1 year ago
This kid is a fucking moron! He keeps saying "umm what does that mean" if you don't know then shut up. The kid has no idea of the politics behind the Aryan invasion theory. Hinduism is not a mix of the Vedic + Dravidian religion! Hinduism is the. Vedic sanathan dharma!
Kid, stop wasting your time with immature comments, get a life and an education instead!
amarshah69 1 year ago 3
dude amazing video.. its like you exactly represent my thoughts. job well done keep posting :). with you always . gona start subscribing to you . :)
dashykan 2 years ago 3
dude how the fuck aryan invasion theory prove the supremacy of christians.. thats just stupid. Aryan invasion theory credits aryans with rich hertitage and dates them back to 1700bc. which was even long before christianity came in to existence.what it proves though is that dravidians were the actual ppl who had arrived before the aryans did.
dashykan 2 years ago
boring
tokyo333ify 2 years ago
NOT again!! Guyz come on, indians are of one race ... hinduism landed in india and not western countries or middle east countries..meaning indians are have the sole right for swastika and sanskrit..of coz it is to be share with the world..
GRAVITIFICATION 2 years ago 2
@GRAVITIFICATION Once again, there are no modern "Aryan" and "Dravidian" races. They're just language families whose ancestors were spoken by distinct ethnocultural groups.
Hinduism didn't "land" in India - it's not an alien. It *developed* there. Indians do not have the sole right to the Swastika and Sanskrit. Freedom of expression is one of the fundamental human freedoms; my ability to use of any symbol or language should not be affected by my country of origin.
SaimDI 1 year ago
@SaimDI what do u mean by there are no modern aryan or dravidian races??.....arnt there ppl of aryan heritage today?? like rajputs and jutts of punjab
nilliterto 10 months ago
@nilliterto Yes, that's true, but North and South Indians do not have on average substantially different genetic markers. In North India you have an Aryan linguistic heritage, and in the South a Dravidian one, but in terms of genetics and culture what we have is the result of millenia of mixing and syncretism (and there is probably also Dravidian influence in pronunciation and grammar on Indo-Aryan as well).
SaimDI 10 months ago
@SaimDI yea but the one ain punjab are fairly more aryan as compared to those as u go downwards ,..they do have it quite different than dravidians
nilliterto 10 months ago
@nilliterto more aryans ? my dear to know arya please read the vedas , arya was never a race and no one is arya by birth as per vedic texts , a person who wore a sacred thread and follow rituals of vedas is know as arya (noble one) and is never restricted to any race , now i think you are missing many things the north is always a war zone where people for Scynthiya , Prarthiya , Grees , Mongol etc. came and got settle and adopt the local culture secondly climate played a major role
AbhaySinghBisen 8 months ago
u dumbass the theory itself makes noo sense since it says that the aryans arrived to india in about 1500 BC and the aryan religion which IS Hinduism it is no Dravadian and sanskrit is an aryan language the Hindu epics took place at about 5000 BC + there is noo way that the aryans came from around mesopotamia in 1500 BC the aryans have been in india as long as the dravidians have. there is lots of other proof of the theory being incorrect and u should really use proper sentences stop saying UMM
HarshyBoy1 2 years ago 8
Not only ignorance,that can be cured,most horrible type of stories and blaming even those great experts as fraud,this moron even not fit to be added in the race of humans.
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
PKPMom, don't waste your time to this creature of Camel suckers lineage!
This creatures have nothing in head!
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
Saraswath, I know. He actually thinks everything begins and ends with Islam. He actually thinks Islam created the first rocket. A simple google search could be of help but then again, he doesn't believe in science. Maybe he can join the Flat Earth society.
PKPMom 2 years ago
See duffmanaq clearly thinking about Monkey simply he belonged to one of them!
Because monkeys only thinks others as monkey!
It is quite natural!
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
Surely, you will be recognized.
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
Like using words such as fantasy mind and other bull shits wont give you people Aryan status.Better claim Arabian lineage.
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
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LOL Sara Swamy monkey, or should I say sara swami puta, lol. you can keep dreaming these fantasies but realize no one, including the majority of indians will believe you. you are making up bullshit... you subhuman creature.
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GeneticAnthropology 2 years ago
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GeneticAnthropology 2 years ago
All sound like a bunch of indians to me.
duffmanaq 2 years ago
GeneticAnthropology,You are a freaking small nutted faggot.
Some of those people under Dravidian which you equate to Australoid are very very Indic.
Aishwarya Rai?Oh god you deluded fucker.
jiggashady 2 years ago 3
aishwarya rai ain't even white dude. she is so dark in reality...
duffmanaq 2 years ago
Why have you met her in person?Oh I am sure you can walk into her house any time you want.What the heck is wrong with you?She is very pale skinned in real life as well.
jiggashady 2 years ago
@jiggashady
I don't get that guy's agenda. He spams every Indian video with this stupid garbage. I wish he'd get banned already.
PKPMom 2 years ago 3
Who are you talking about bro?
jiggashady 2 years ago
@jiggashady
That Genetic Anthropology guy.
PKPMom 2 years ago
Yeah what a dumbass he seems to be.
'Arya Jat' lol.
Aishwarya Rai who is a High Caste Bunt ~ Rai Kshatriya from S India is 'Austral-African' mix.
He equates Dravidian to a Negroid?Wtf?
There are no Negroes in India,only Weddids/Indo-Australoid.
real Dravidians are proto Mediterraneans.
jiggashady 2 years ago
@jiggashady
Exactly. What is his viewpoint. Is he an Afrocentrist?
PKPMom 2 years ago
No,he is a pro- 'Arya Jat' lol.
Basically an Aryan Nationalist,if you want to call it that.But his logic is flawed,every South Indian is a Dravid/Austral African admixed and every North and East Indian is a 'Arya Jat'.
jiggashady 2 years ago 2
But Rigveda clearly says those Asuras were defeated and made to out of India by Aryan King Sudas.Those Asuras group later followed Zoroastrianism with their God Asura(Ahura)Mazda founder by Zoroaster.
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
duffmanaq dont know the difference between his guesses and history.He lacks understanding capabilities but has only foolish ego.
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
The history that you claim doesn't exist outside of your fantasy mind. So I am guessing you think you will wake up one day and look in the mirror and see a white girl? hahaha, no offense.....
duffmanaq 2 years ago
There's objective history and your version of history. I'd rather rely on objective data from renowned scientists and historians than your version. So who's living in fantasy? That would be you.
And what makes you think we want to be white girls. We are who we are and if you don't like it, it's just too bad. At least our country and culture is not stuck in the 7th century. Maybe that's why you don't believe in science either.
PKPMom 2 years ago
At least us dark "monkeys" to the south have contributed something to humanity. Your only contribution is suicide bombers, jihadis and heroin.
PKPMom 2 years ago 3
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yeah? What on earth has south india ever done for society? It was the aryans that started civilization. It was the persian muslims that created algebra and it was islam that perfected medicine and astronomy. come again biatch? It was islam that even created the first missle rocket. Like I said, come again???????you slumdog cow worshipper....
duffmanaq 2 years ago
Sorry it was an Indian brahmin that invented the number system including the number zero. Medicine started in Egypt and Ayurveda is Indian. Islam didn't even exist until 600 BC. And yes the Persian mathematician al Khwarizmi was influential in Algebra. But by then Chinese, Indian, Sumerian & Greek cultures were already flourishing.
If you were such great thinkers, what's happened to you now? Go look up Nobel prizes by country and you'll see your country is nowhere to be found.
PKPMom 2 years ago 4
The reason you have to insult Hinduism and Indians is because you don't have a cogent argument and you are on the wrong side of history and facts and you know it. And your use of vulgur language is indicative of your limited vocabulary.
Frankly I don't even enjoy responding to you because I may inadvertently insult many nice Afgani people. Too bad you are not one of them.
PKPMom 2 years ago
I'm a proud worshipper of cows and monkeys. Maybe if you had more reverence for all living beings, you wouldn't be killing each other and lead a more productive life. Most Hindus couldn't care less what you think of us.
As for being ugly, we couldn't be that bad after all. India is tied with Venezuela in winning the most Miss World.
PKPMom 2 years ago 2
BTW, the Indus valley civilization is attributed to Dravidians who are today's South Indians. Indus civilization is more than 5,500 ybp - about 4,000 before Islam was even a concept. As for us being slumdogs, we are not even in the top 50 poorest countries in the world but your country is in the top 10.
PKPMom 2 years ago
the REAL Dravidian proper are Dark skinned Caucasoids and not the South Indians who tend to resemble reduced Australian Aboriginals.They migrated to India in the early neolithic age and brought Dravidic languages with them and introduced agriculture to the Austro-Asiatic aboriginals.Later on,they got linguistically replaced in the north by the Indic Caucasoids and racially bred out by Weddids/Australoids in the South.The Indus was the doing of the Indics and not the Dravids btw.
jiggashady 2 years ago
The Aryans started civilization, huh? That's strange, because the Sumerians (non-Aryan, in case you didn't know) were the first civilization, then the Harappans (not Aryans) and another civilization in what is know China. Mesoamerica and the Andes also developed civilization independently.
SaimDI 2 years ago
Maybe you should do up some reading on Physical Anthropology.The Sumerians,Elamites and the Indus Valley people were the same race i.e the Indic race.The type that is common in Pakistan and NW India and Higher Caste Hindus.The IVC was hit by natural calamities,there was no bloody invasion.But there is a racial difference no doubt.
jiggashady 2 years ago
@jiggashady
No, the Sumerian & Elamintes are related to the Dravidians not the Indo-Aryans. Secondly, the consensus is that the IVC was a Dravidian civilization. The only ones that claim it was an Aryan civilization are the Pakis.
Look, I myself am a N. Indian Brahmin and would very much like for it to be an Aryan civ. but facts are facts.
PKPMom 2 years ago
@PKPMom
Hello mate,I am a Southy Brahmin.Even I was under the impression that Indus was the doing of the Dravidian speakers who were dark skinned Caucasoids but I read some of David Frawley's works and he proved that the IVC was most probably the doing of pre-Vedic Aryans.Of course you may refute this if you like cause I am open to you giving me the real picture.And Dravidian=not today's south indians.
they are swarthy Caucasoids.
jiggashady 2 years ago
Really though?
Now I have a doubt,because the Swastika is found on the Indus Seals,not to mention tons of inscriptions with bovine animals.The Vedic religion also lays emphasis on the revering the Cow..
So I still have my doubts.
Also the examination of Sumerian skulls show that their strongest sub race was Orientalid Alpinid~ a sub race also very strong in South Indian Brahmins - who are traditionally seen as Indo Aryan migrants from the North who brought higher culture to the South.
jiggashady 2 years ago
Oh yeah,I definitely hope your definition of Dravidian is not = pred.Australoid South Indian
jiggashady 2 years ago
No I don't mean Australoids. Dravidians are meditterranean Caucasoids.
PKPMom 2 years ago 3
Moron!Why you come here as you are belonged to the bloodline of camel riders of Arabia.
Iam asking why you people try to get connection with Aryan when you people nowhere related to it.
Dont try to be so smart!Better try to to rope friendship with Arabians.
Tell me what do you know about history?
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
so are dark skinned indian claims ties to Aryans while saying that the better and stronger afghans are arabs. hahahahahahahahahahahahah ILMAO. You freaking sad monkeys.
duffmanaq 2 years ago
Also, hindusim itself in it's modern form took alot from greek myth. The aryans were Zoarastrians, but tolerant to other religions as well. The Avest itself states that aryans were zoarastrians, not hindus.
duffmanaq 2 years ago
LMAO,Brahmins and Kshatriyas will forever be more Aryan in every aspect be it the features,the language or the religion than people who follow desert a.k.a Semitic religions
jiggashady 2 years ago
What you said was so stupid I will not even reply with an answer. read over what you said about afghans being desert followers or semetic ppl. that in itself is an idiotic respose dude... shame on u
duffmanaq 2 years ago
With all respect,whoever said anything about Pashtuns?
I said all these people claiming to be ooh omg argh Aryan either follow Islam or Christianity which arent even Indo European religions
jiggashady 2 years ago
Well that is where you are mistaken. Afghans and Iranians were the only ones that were following the Aryan religion of Zorastrianism before the conquest of Islam. After we embraced Islam, we no longer accepted Zorastrianism as our religion as life moves on dude...
duffmanaq 2 years ago
PKPMom,Sorry for the ignorance here.Rigvedic verses are very old and those 1700BC details are simply bull shit.
I will sent reliable astronomic details if you need.
The oldest details in Rigveda gives astronomical details around 4300BC which are proved by our modern computers as accurate and confirmed by all modern discoveries such as dried Saraswathi river discovery and Gulf of cambay underwater discovery.
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
joyedwards100,Why this kind of stories?Could you prove anything?Why coming and just ejecting your politicians fake stories here.
Do you think,is it bring value to you?
If you are intelligent enough try to prove such and such references are here in this book and as per this expert,this is not proved etc,
Dont show your ugly background here!
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
Will you stop trying to cover your indian insecurities by claiming ties with the aryans? just accept your nationality and have some pride in it for goodness sakes. Most indians I know accept that aryans were noble horseman from the north. ONly some south indian freaks like you hold on to this theory. Stop making up nonsense.
duffmanaq 2 years ago
Accusing the British is stupidity. Before the British came, India was divided into 55 states and they united it. If you say their policy was "Divide and Rule" why is India still torn with so many divisions, why did the caste system not go with the British and still remains to full effect. Why does the government of India application forms still ask which caste you belong to. The only reason could be to promote this system and reserve all the good things of this land to the their secret society
joyedwards100 2 years ago
The crafty Aryan people have hundreds of theories to the Indian people as well as the world that they belong to India and this their land. They have successfully done this because they are the legal government here and they wrote the history books in their favor anything to make themselves legitimate, in fact they have come to the point of proving that Dravidians or native Indians are illegitimate and have no right to this land, thats how smart they are, they need a kick in the ass
joyedwards100 2 years ago
Good video. We all need to get over the utter crap propaganda of the so-called 'Aryan Invasion'.
shiva4ever 2 years ago
GeneticAnthropology 2 years ago
GeneticAnthropology 2 years ago
The Indo-Aryan invasion was not from outside India but from within ancient India. The Manusmriti identifies the Kiratas(Indo-Mongoloid) as one of the eleven tribes who inhabited the Indus-Saraswoti region.
The expansion of Indo-Aryan led to assimilation of others culture into vedic society.
Still today the form of Sivaism in a crude form exist in Mongolia and by Kirat people in Nepal.
Here's the video:
"Connexion of Mongolia-Kirat:Revealing the Mystery of Origin of Phallus Stone Worship"
diliprai 2 years ago
Fools!Aryans never came from Persia.Why you people could not find any difference between your opinions and history!
Can you prove you versions.
But there are most reliable recent proofs that Aryans are migrated from ancient India only.
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
Nobody said it is coincidences!Improve proper reading habit!
Modern Archeology proves that Aryans are migrated from India.Tell,now coincidences will be there or not?
Where here comes politics!
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
Its nothing to do with Religion at all! Good video!
andy7666 2 years ago
If it is the case then,It proves my point that Aryans migrated from ancient India to Europe via Iran and Armenia.Simple!
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
"Indra" is a cognate of the Hellenic Zeus, and Norse Thor, not a REAL PERSON! Jeez.
CattleBruiser2008 2 years ago
Those Aryan Invasion theory created by westerners only for those who kept their brain in the knee.
Those western experts considered that they can fool Indian as such.
Seeing foolish comments here though this Aryan invasion theory totally debunked long ago but still some morons are talking this means,those western experts not entirely wrong on the mental ability of some Indians.
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
Yes, and all the linguistic, genetic and cultural simmilarities between the Indo-European peoples are just coincidences? I think people are politicising the issue too much - this happened a long time ago and yes there is proof of it! Debunked by whom?
andy7666 2 years ago
Can any of you seriously look at the linguistic evidence deny that at least some proto-Indo-Iranian-speaking tribes settled in India?
They're actually not European, almost everything I've read that isn't by some White nationalist suggests a Central Asian origin.
SaimDI 2 years ago
Actually it was the other way around..a certain group of Brahmins actyallu settled in Iran - go check out the Avestas where it mentions the Vedic brahmins & references are made to Hindu Gods lyk Vayu, Maitreyi, Surya etc etc & ancient Persians wore the sacred thread as do the Zorashtrains of today.
pumbavu1 2 years ago
India in total had three migrations if we consider Out of Africa theory true. The first time was Australoids who mostly ended up in Australia but their traces can be found in tribes of India. Then there was another group which we can call as dravidians who came from Persia and third Aryans who also came from the same region but a very huge time gap.
This would also explain why elamites and dravidian laguages have similarities. Now coming to the genetic makeup of the Indians. (cont'd)
nikred 2 years ago
(cont'd) Major lower caste Indians (higher density in south but also large portion in north) had genetic traits of dravidians than upper caste Indians. But interestingly from the patriarchal side traces showed Aryan traits for almost all the Indians(both north and south).
Then there is mixture of Greeks, Scythians and Parthians. These mixtures can be found even in South west and south central region too. Synthians ruled over AP too.
But in spite of it all Indians in general share
nikred 2 years ago
more similarity to the people south asians and south east asians than to the europeans or orientals or the blacks.
nikred 2 years ago
You are 14 years old? No way. U look like u are 8 and talk like u are 4. LOL.
If you want to argue for a theory, then argue, without all the grimaces and hand waving. LOL.
watch: youtube (dot)com /watch?v=MO8-JCK45tc&
Anyway Aryan invasion theory is proven false, with both genetical and archeological evidence.
VivaLanka 2 years ago
Aryan Invasion theory was not proved false as the Hindutva people who did not want them to recognized as outsiders.
Darius the persion king as said that he is a Aryan King in a stone tablet and inscriptions.
DON'T JUST TRY TO CLAIM FALSE INFO AND TRY TO MANIPULATE THE HISTORY.
And the assole in this video needs to know how to argue... Ask him to go back to school...
kalidhas1 2 years ago
''Aryan Invasion theory was not proved false as the Hindutva people who did not want them to recognized as outsiders. '' = I can't understand what u mean here.
Did u watch the video in my post, before u replied? If not watch it. I am no expert on this subject - but there is more than enough evidence that the Aryan invasion didn't happen. Darius invaded India the 5th or 6th century, way after the presumed Aryan invasion.
The assole in the video = a child of 14. So excuse him.
VivaLanka 2 years ago
exactly !! good answer. :) :) especially the last line.
pearl1729 2 years ago
Indo-Mongoloid people who are the indigenous in Himalayas actual religion are based on Nature, Ancestors and Shamanism.
One need to identify the roots of Hinduism and get rid of vedic religion brought by aryan which ultimately destroy the oldest religion.
One do not have to convert to Christians which is only about 2000+ years, while indigenous religion is from the Neolithic period(9000+ years).
check "sakela~the greatest festival of kirat people" for pre-vedic religion practices
diliprai 2 years ago
Sudarshan Raj Tiwari in his book The Brick and the Bull, 2002 (Pg. 23) states, The similarities among the cultural practices of bygone days leave little doubt that the Kirats did indeed come from the Indus-Saraswati Valley.
The Manusmriti identifies the Kiratas as one of the eleven tribes who inhabited the Indus-Saraswoti region.
diliprai 2 years ago
Actually genetic studies especially by Stephen Oppenheimer & Toomas Kivisild is starting to show that Aryan Invasion is not a valid theory.
PKPMom 2 years ago
Aryan Invasion theory already proved as figment of imagination and greatest fraud of nineteenth century which imposed on India by western egoists.
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
India is very ancient country.The antiquity of India is such that the Mahabharatha war took place exactly in 3129BC as per astronomical information of two eclipse less than 15 days details
As per Aryabhatta details the Kaliyuga started in 3102BC.
As per Mahabharata Lord Krishna died 27 years after war,as per records Kaliyuga started immediately
How all are confirm one another.
These above are again proved my modern discovery of dried river Saraswathi recently.
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
even in the bible there a one line saying one of the middle eastern emperor(i dont know his name) he ruled from Europa in the west to Hindu country in the east.that means india is popular country even in ancient times
sharanprasanth 2 years ago
ur very clever boy :)
forevermore23 2 years ago
The bottom line ppl, for those who are arguing, is that the Aryans were of middle eastern physical type. The Dravidians were originally of middle eastern physical type as well. They are also found in Sardinia, Greece & Egypt as well (under different names as well).
To the author of this video: you're right caucasians don't exist (and I'm a "white" person saying
soundsfromnothing 2 years ago
(continued) this. Europeans are made up of 2 physical types: Original Upper paleolithic ("Cro magnon") Europeans (who evolved in Europe during the Ice age), and Middle Eastern physical types (some would call them "mediterranean" types). Middle easterners migrated to Europe about 10,000 years ago (during the neolithic) and brought agriculture/farmong with them. They are, more than likely, the ones who built Stonehenge. Getting back to the Dravidians, both DNA & study of ancient remains proves the
soundsfromnothing 2 years ago
(continued 2) Dravidians are related to Greeks, N. Africans (Maghreb) etc. I will say that I believe the Aryans already did exist in India, and just subdued the "lesser" races (Austrics, Dravidians, Negritos). They didn't realize the Dravidians were a branch of their same type. The bottom line, people: no 1 is a race. And, unless you want to go back more than 10,000 k, you won't find one!
soundsfromnothing 2 years ago
You people study,"AIT as on date"real facts by Konrad Elst which contain all the latest details.
Dont recommend outdated books,my dear.
Saraswathiputra 2 years ago
read this
Iranian Religions: Zoroastrianism
The Origin of the Pre-Imperial Iranian Peoples
By: Dr Oric Basirov
CAIS series of lectures
SOAS, 26/4/2001
persianpridep9 2 years ago
what a load of shit aryans did not come from india
here's proof
"The earliest reference to this word in an Iranian context, however, predates Zoroaster and is attested in non-Gathic Avesta; it appears as airya, meaning noble; as airya dainhava (Yt.8.36, 52) meaning the land of the Aryans; and as airyana vaejah, the original land of the Aryans; this term, it seems, was adopted in remote antiquity by Iranians as their national identity "
persianpridep9 2 years ago
Well, the word Arya appears in its original form in several places in the Rg Veda which is estimated to have been written somewhere between 1700 - 1100 BC. The Avesta I believe is dated around 1,000 BC.
The Rig Veda also only refers to India as Aryavarta. That is not to say that there weren't Aryans in Iran as well at that time.
PKPMom 2 years ago
actually you are wrong. there is no concrete fact or evidence that the avesta existed around 1000 BC. Major historians say that the avesta and the zoarastrians existed around 8000 BC.
duffmanaq 2 years ago
Alot ppl here claim to know the history of the aryans, but fail to know the first king of the aryans. Afghans know this, persians know this and his name was Yama Badsha. Also, people fail to realize that the aryans came from a very cold area, this is north of russia, Then they migrated to where is now afghanistan and created an empire, taking bahrat and then creating civilizations to the north and west (europe).
duffmanaq 2 years ago
duffmanaq, Genetic evidence is starting to tell a different story than yours.
PKPMom 2 years ago
See, a genetic research that is biased means nothing. It is just another means of fabricating the truth. How many afghans, pure afghans were included as part of that genetic test? I will tell you. NONE. Just like people don't know diddly squat about the rest of afghanistan history. THe greeks hated the persians, this is why much of western history is biased... as it is taken from the greeks. SO what genetic evidence are you refering to? Lets put it to the test shall we?
duffmanaq 2 years ago
So you want us to take your word over medical geneticists. Look you have your history and we have ours. I think we know ours better than you do. I don't presume to tell you about yours, so don't tell me about mine.
PKPMom 2 years ago
Again, your scietific study is nothing more then fantasy. If indians had ties to Aryans, they would not be so different looking and so weak, as in enslaved by thousands of people. No offense, but facts are facts, and if you don't have that, have common sense. Unless you can prove that india was genetically tied to Cyrus the great of persia, or unless you can porve that he lied when he said he was an aryan, you should keep your mouth shut.
duffmanaq 2 years ago
Look the word Arya itself is Sanskrit. Just because you keep repeating it over and over again won't make it a fact. As for Indians being monkeys, I'm honored because we have great reverence for all living beings. The state of your country speaks for itself.
PKPMom 2 years ago 3
There is nothing wrong with our country. It is in the aryan gene to take shit from no one. That is why every powerful or weak nation that tries to fight finally faces a fierce battle. I am not speaking politically here, but just from a charactersitic stand point. Just because there is a reference of the word arya in your book called the veda, it doesn't make it sanskrit. Aryans took over the indian region long time ago, and they were considered nobel. Afghans are still considered Maliks (Nobles)
duffmanaq 2 years ago
I'm not saying there were no Aryans in Afg. What I'm disputing is your comment that Afg. taught India everything. As for the word Arya, it is Sanskrit. Look in any dictionary. And there are multiple references to it in the Rig Veda.
PKPMom 2 years ago
It was the persians that later on changed the name of india from bahrat to Hindustan. Stan is a farcy word meaning land of. The vida documents a noble ppl coming from the north and civilizing the indian region.
duffmanaq 2 years ago
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You might have fairly good analytical skills, but its quite clear that you need to read and learn a lot more before you comment on these things. Also, I would recommend improving your presentation skills. Your body language, lack of fluency while talking etc. make your videos quite irritating.
veganshastry 2 years ago
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veganshastry 2 years ago
Kid, growp up, learn and study more. Talk about this topic
when you got a logical, analytical and not strong headed mind.
Come back when you are a grown up man ...
pearl1729 3 years ago
U have to cm to India to knw what he meant,Anti Hindus use the Aryan theory to make Hindus not feel proud of their heritage, Mostly it was done in the South just to shw tht Aryans subdued the Dravidians and brought the Caste system,Although such ppl said tht to fight caste system in India, The christian missionaries later used it to justify y Hinduism is bad and xanity is good and does not have caste system etc., and also to prove hindusim was also foreign, to mk xanity appeal more to locals.!
KarthikSoun 3 years ago
Hinduism isn't foreign, it's indigenous to India. It originated as a MIXTURE of Aryan religion to the north (it has many similarities to the Iranic, Celtic, etc. religions) and the indigenous Dravidian religion (which MAY have came and supplanted/mixed with the aboriginal Adivasi culture).
SaimDI 3 years ago
He he he !!! :) :)
I am having a good laugh
pearl1729 2 years ago
the biggest mystery on earth. who are indians and where they got their knowledge from???
8275989 3 years ago
India=Arya??? yeah sure, gray skin shit
juventusinvinsibleII 3 years ago
Lol, wtf is this?
rajivunome 3 years ago
AIT is a garbage theory with little or no support today. India's history is more complex than two races populating the subcontinent.
jumpnjza2 3 years ago
Did you even watch the video Jumpnjza2?
India's history IS more complex. But there is still a difference between the North and South and between the Indo-Aryan and Dravidian languages.
SaimDI 3 years ago
u guys r a real pain, read about nostratic term, study read understand analyse about tamil language, sanskrit language , pali language,..veda thihasa, aagama, purana, islamic migration,...etc nor just ggole or merely reading some article on internet or few books which is not sufficient. colonisation, ...impacts...etc
Oohviyakiruki 3 years ago
Your quesitons make you a high school boy and my comment was a suggesiton to you.
pearl1729 3 years ago
Pearl, my questions don't make me a high school boy, the fact that I go to high school, am younger than 18 and have a penis do.
I am in the process of growing up, learning and studying! However, that does not give any credence to Hinduism111's arguments, nor does it refute my rebuttal! You're 26, that's fairly young too - an 80 year old could say the same to you!
SaimDI 3 years ago
Yes it does, only a high school boy could have commented on such logic. it's good that u r in the process, u r not yet enough to come on such topics that too with foolish reasons and conclusions. there is nothing in your rebutta. and so much of your thinking that hinduism came from iran, and dravidian came from adivasi culture. either u r a south indian who lives in abroad and u want to think of yourself as something that u never were. or u r a white from the west, either way u r fooling yrself
pearl1729 3 years ago
Lol, you think that only a high school boy would have commented on dumb-arse logic? Hardly.
I'm half-European and half-Punjabi living in Australia. I'm no South Indian.
How about you actually pm me refutations or make a video response rather than just say "u can't understand this case closed"?
SaimDI 3 years ago
I forgot to include that you could be a 1/2 white or 1 white, both these are another kind of problems.
There is no point of talking foolish with a kid like you.
I don't make video as I don't have a webcam and I don't waste my time making video on false ideology but I can spend my time to teach you something.
pearl1729 3 years ago
You haven't actually taught me anything, all you've done is repeatedly say "You're wrong!" and "You're a young Westerner so you're opinion doesn't count!"
SaimDI 3 years ago
Do you think you opinion counts ? u r doing the same to hinduism111 with your kiddish and funny logics. you arguments shows how much did u study or understand and how much is your fantasy. that's why it puts u as a school kid nothing more. if you are searching for the truth, you will put another video once u find the truth if you ar just fantasizing such ideas then u will just keep talking about all the igoistic western historians did
pearl1729 2 years ago
"like muller who changed his mind later, u will sure do when u will begin. it happens at your age, u will learn later."
All I did was REFUTE Hinduism111's moronic arguments, which you seem to agree with me about.
"like muller who changed his mind later, u will sure do when u will begin. it happens at your age, u will learn later. "
ANYONE who disagrees with me can say that. Neo-nazis can say that, so can revolutionary socialists, so can Christian creationists.
SaimDI 2 years ago
like muller who changed his mind later, u will sure do when u will begin. it happens at your age, u will learn later.
pearl1729 2 years ago
You are such a loser you indian freak
duffmanaq 2 years ago
Why you hating on the youngster just because he is mature enough to admit that it was the aryans that came into india from Iran/Afghanistan, taught you how to read and write as well as created your language. They have found now relics in afghanistan that proves human existance there form more then 60,000 years. That's ten times more history then your india. Plus, the name india came from "hindustan" which itself is persian. So stop being such a kid and admit the truth.
duffmanaq 2 years ago
Where's your evidence that it was Afghanistan that taught India to read & write. That's a new theory. I've never heard ot that before.
Humans have existed between Africa all the way to Australia for 60,000 yrs so that's not unique to Afghanistan or Iran.
PKPMom 2 years ago
Haha, you're such a smug little camera slut aren't you? You remind me of when i was 15 or 16...
jumpnjza2 3 years ago
I dont understand what are u trying to say in this video?
How can you say that there are not racial types?
First look at your face and than look the faces of the people in the country where you live,and than we will speak!
Wiligot 3 years ago
kid u r dim witted, pretend to be smart, first scientifically there wasn't any strong ground, DNA studies..haplogroup studies have prove it that the the Indians are of from the same racial pool, Aryan means noble, martial, intelligent, elder, wiser,...not depicting a particular race, and the word Dravidian itself a corrupted from Damida of pali, Wikipedia it is not a reliable resource u moron, it can be edit by anytom dickhead like you, either u must be racist singhalese or dick head caucasion
Oohviyakiruki 3 years ago
Hey moron, why dont u try listening to what the kid say in the videos. He made it clear that the aryan and dravidian are NOT two different races. There is no racial difference between the Aryans and Dravidians. The Aryans and Dravidian are two groups who differed in language in culture. Indians culture is more of a hybrid of Aryan and Draviidan traditions. Hinduism is a groups of religion rather with influences from both groups. No race is involved. Just language and cultural differnce
jc00213 3 years ago 2
listen u fool, there wasn't any such thing called dravidian or aryan in term of race, culture or language.
dravidian means southerner of the land of three border of ramparian, there wasn't any hybrid traditions. proto hinduism or hinduism wasn't a group of hinduism, even language difference wasn't much if u read more about nostratic (panini & agasthiya - shiva myth) but there isn't any culture difference till the muslim invasion...
Oohviyakiruki 3 years ago
Nostratic is a hypothetical language that is proposed by those that wish to find an ancestral language for both Dravidian and Indo-European. It has not been proven to be a fact. Dravidian doesn't mean Southerner. It comes from a the word Thamizh->Damila->Dramila->Dramida->Dravida.
dinekav 2 years ago
Still today Kirat people in Nepal follow their own traditions and culture. While many Nepalese became Hindus, Kiratas had their own religion called "Mundhum" based on nature, ancestors worship and also shamanistic.
Kirat people do not cremate the dead but bury and pork and alcohol are central parts to Kirati culture unlike Hindus.
watch "Connexion of Mongolia-Kirat:Revealing the Mystery of Origin of Phallus Stone" which which felled into Vedic religion later.
diliprai 2 years ago
and I don't need to listen to a kid who no know less about my culture, my tradition, my languages, my religion, my people, my country.
stop bollocking
Oohviyakiruki 3 years ago
Oh, how self-righteous!
MY tradition, MY languages, MY people, MY country!
Stop playing identity politics and get real.
So Oohviyakiruki, regarding race, culture and language:
Race: Agreed, there are no Aryan/Dravidian races.
Language: What? It is quite clear that there are separate Indo-European and Dravidian linguistic groups.
Culture: So North India and South India are exactly the same? Riiiiight....
SaimDI 3 years ago
u know litle about my country, first u r not a indian born, second u have lease knowledge, I am not playing politic, how u will understand us, when u r not even belongs here, well the proto dravidian and the literary tamil is not heavyly sanskritised apart from Telugu, kannada and malayalam, second the sanskrit itself heavily influence by dravidian grammar structures and also loan words. nevertheless our culture, religion, language, race everything is unseparateable, pinion with each other
Oohviyakiruki 3 years ago
as such we can't disregard the merit of (Lord sivas order of panini-agasthiya mission for language) In the nostratic term - Proto Dravidian Languages and Eurasian languages standing side by side as a sister language.
Finaly Veda was composed in India by Indians and all the relevant articles are purely incidents taken place in India and there is no sense saying that someone came with chariot or elephant from central asia or europe to invade india..which is ignorant
Oohviyakiruki 3 years ago
Of course the Vedas were made in India by Indians - the Aryan migration was pre-Vedic!
SaimDI 3 years ago
there is no such thing called aryan invasion
Oohviyakiruki 3 years ago
"u know litle about my country"
How about instead of saying this you actually argue? Hm? This is not a real argument. I am interested in the history of the Indian subcontinent, so I can't voice any opinions on it? I can't voice any opinions on any country other than Australia? Haven't you criticized Pakistan, America, etc. before?
Regarding the language stuff, they're still separate linguistic groups. English is influenced heavily by Latin, but that doesn't make it a Romance language.
SaimDI 3 years ago
off course, u read little here and there and then start to debate or argue like a phd student, it is difficult for guys like u to understand the truth or analyse it, all the scholars that u r refering infact have done enormous studies and yet draw a derogatory remarks such as Max Muller and chadwell.. all this bloody whites to imposing the white supremacy over the advance indian civilisation that they have discovered, all east India company craps.
Oohviyakiruki 3 years ago
No, Oohviyakiruki, that's not true. I'm not saying that this is where I stand permanently, or that I 'believe' in this Aryan migration, just that "Hinduism111"'s arguments were false.
SaimDI 3 years ago
okie!!
suggestion!! read about Matsya Avatar..Manu..King of the Dravida..big flood..building a ark....migrating from south to north..the lemuria theory.. Sangam age and its quote regarding the deluge (kadal kohlal) it will giv few ideas about the indian race & religion...etc
Oohviyakiruki 3 years ago
you look like shit
mynameisrajan 3 years ago
Argument ad hominem, my nameisrajan. Since you used it so blatantly, I suggest you look it up to avoid future fallaci