Witnesses: Health Care Vigil Finger-Gate "A Big Cat Fight"

[agkistrodoncrotalus]

It would be a pussified liberal coward that would bite off the finger of a 65 yr old man. wow.

[Torakization]

Go Scott Bush Go Go, Eat them fingers !

[Vilemk0]

So let's dumb this incident down to the facts for the retards out there:

The now fingerless man was being yelled at by a man in black.

The man in black called the now fingerless man an idiot, and in return the now fingerless man punched him in the face, not once but twice. This was assault which immediately gave the man in black the right to defend himself.

The now fingerless man stated, "My fist ended up in his mouth the second time I punched him, and he bit it off." Paraphrased this quote.

[hashmeershashmer4]

i live thare hahaha i remember that

[IowaOkoboji]

Granny you probably think the Democrats are the party of the little guy huh?

Not anymore Granny! better start paying attention!

[IowaOkoboji]

Here's a big word for you Gramps

totalitarianism!

I am against it, and don't give me where were you when Bush was spending like a drunken sailor, pushing the patriot act and his bail out bullshit! I didn't vote for the chimp. I also spoke out against that socialist pig. We are sick of corruption in our government, and it has nothing to do with the color of skin the President has. It has to do with his agenda Gramps. In 2010 I suspect there to be many unemployed shyster politicians

[bigc028282]

Don't worry, the two party LIE has figured it all out. You will end up with the government big toe in your healthcare. They will pass legislation that will make you sick. They will probably pass in on a day after someone like MJ dies. ( like the crap in trade-carbon TAX) Maybe right after another 911. You will be screwed in the end, that you can be assured. Next, will be the dollar. Maybe the "pandemic" before that. For sure, the dollar. Check out the 1976 vaccinations.

[172677]

I find it hysterically funny that this "healthcare portestor", who was the aggressor and threw the first punch collects SocSecurity AND Medicare...and he was treated by GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTHCARE....free.....

Did anyone see him turn it down and pay his own bill out of his own pocket? Of course not.

Hypocrites...all of them.

[IowaOkoboji]

You call paying taxes your whole life (free)! wow lmao you liberals are so stupid fucks lmao people pay into s.s. and are also taxed for Medicare! it is not free you retard lol

FREE lol

[172677]

Right. Like we haven't had taxes for the last 250 years or so. No, this tinhatters are being led around by corporate sponsors and the right-wing neo-con republican part members.

Most of them are uneducated, unpatriotic, dumb as a stone and racist. They hate that we have a black President.

Now, you go on back to school...pay attention in Civics and History...so you don't grow up to be a tinhatter.

And, learn to think so you can use big words instead of "lmao, lol"

[IowaOkoboji]

Grandpa, I went to school. How many letters do you have in front of your name grandpa?

Uneducated huh? oh brother

Here's the deal gramps! You are an old fuck I was raised to respect my elders but 68 year old men that are still liberals are obviously lacking in character and possibly in the first stages of alzheimer's.

You just cant listen can you? You call people who speak out against the President of the United States racist and uneducated?

[IowaOkoboji]

Gramps people are pissed off OK!

they don't want bigger government, I sure don't! people have been speaking out against the president for as long as we have been paying taxes! I am led by anybody! I am led by the love of my country. I do not want it fundamentally changed! don't want Big daddy gov to take over banks the auto industry bail out fucking newspapers gramps! (newspapers) gramps, The folks who are supposed to be the watch dogs, not the lap dogs.

[IowaOkoboji]

I don't want government health care!

I don't trust our government with my children's and my grandchildren health care. It has nothing to do with skin color you old fuck! I voted for Allan Keyes by the way, you disingenuous, feeble minded race baiter. see you in 2010 gramps. See gramps unlike you I question ALL authority, not just the authority i am opposed to, you should try it gramps. I am already grown up I'm 45 prime of my life Sir! I was leftist, utopia minded when I was young.

[IowaOkoboji]

You're calling half of America racist and uneducated just because they do not want a radical leftist full of utopian ideals destroying this nation is bullshit! Nobody is leading me around I know how to think.

I know jackasses who call us tea party folks who are protesting the socialist take over of our country racists are Failures and have nothing of importance to bring to a conversation! keep up the good work you are pissing off half the country by calling them racist! 2010 gramps

[IowaOkoboji]

The Racists in America have been keeping the black folks and other minorities on the Dem plantation for a long while now. Your precious Obama has awoken a sleeping giant. Folks who have never Been political before are waking up, folks who have never protested are now speaking out and you democrats just cant stand the heat! 2010 you are going to see a fundamental change for sure Gramps. Your arrogance has sealed the deal! Get back to me in 2010 so I can tell you LMAO and lol

[IowaOkoboji]

Gramps..Citizens pay to support police and fire depts.,they pay in to social security they pay to support the military including tricare and V.A. Benefits which is part of the compensation they receive for their service. How is that Socialism? You remind of Winston Smith at the end of "1984" crying while staring Big Brother lamenting about how much he loves Big Brother,about how good Big Brother is,about how the double plus good he is.

lmao and lol got that Winston huh? gramps

[172677]

Well, what can I say except "wow". You've proven my point. A grown man who's made it to your age and STILL acts like a teenager.

You are a perfect example of the racist, bigotted tinhatters and teabaggers of whom I speak....thanks for validating my opinion of you all.

And, a man your age should be able to get a point across without profantiy and 4-letter words...even with NO education and being dumb as a rock.

BTW, sonny, you can call me "Granny"....

[IowaOkoboji]

Granny ma'am

Saying( fuck ) does not make me a racist or uneducated! Nor am I bigoted. Nothing I have said validated your point! Nothing

Cussing is not a sign of ignorance or racism. But you calling half of America racist and uneducated because they do not want government health care and big government proves you are a bigot and most likely a racist yourself

GRANNY BTW you can call me your intellectual superior.

cant you get a point across without calling somebody stupid and racist?

[IowaOkoboji]

I would argue calling somebody an old fuck is equal to calling them a racist and uneducated. I would prefer the label (old fuck) over racist and uneducated any day myself.

you are a name caller nothing more nothing less an old race card carrying Democrat sheep. TAKE THE LOG OUT OF YOUR OWN EYE. You made no points. went to you homepage, it seems you call people dumb often. wow that's some argument you have there Granny

lol and lmao

[Vilemk0]

@IowaOkoboji The point is that it's not entirely paid for by you. It's paid out of a collective wallet. Herpa derp!

[kotok123]

"GET A JOB" - Maybe some of us would have a job if you didn't hook the financial industry up with the predatory lending ex-lax that is deregulation. Having your healthcare linked to unemployment is extremely dangerous if you lose your job. They complain about rationing, yet health is already rationed based on prices set by some of the richest people in america. Like always they are just a bunch of nimbys. Maybe our country wouldn't be so broke if we actually reinvested in our country.

[stewart0312]

Haha,  Limbaugh can't save you now!

[dayglowgreendoor]

This old teabagger guy is a scam artist and con man. He collects social security but spent his entire life NOT paying into the system. That's reicht you redneck, white trash, teabaggers! He collects social security and pays nothing into the system EVER! He collects Medicare also and then shows up a White Power protest against "government run healthcare"!! You redneck teabaggers are amazingly duplicitous and ignorant.

[TheRealtMG]

It's embarrassing when someone points out how stupid your comments make you appear.

[TheRealtMG]

The attacker is the person who threw the first punch! Duh.

[Stan597]

NoSpace, Why did the pro reform guy cross the street in the first place? He picked out someone he thought he could bully. He found out he was wrong. I am sure it boggles the mind of some of you Obama fans that the guy is nort suing.

[TheRealtMG]

Why he crossed the street is irrelevant, but some reports are that he was trying to get to the parking lot, which was on the other side of the counter-protesters. The main point is the old man admits he started the physical altercation (or threw the first punch). I have no trouble believing the old man was the aggressor, b/c he admitted it point blank! Yes, "it all happened so fast," seems to indicate a cover up of some kind.

[onlyrey]

Fingerless accepted in Cavuto's Fox News Network show that he was hitting black shirt guy for the second time, and as he punch him in the mouth, back-shirt bit the finger off...

What if this happened in a bar?

[Goldio00]

I live down the street from here lol

I should have gone and watched

[PaintMaryconley]

the guy who bite the finger off crossed the street and attacked him..

then bite his finger off...

I would of been throwing punches in my self defense too if some crossed the street singled me out and then attacked me.

[johncrwarner]

Loosing the tip of your pinky because you on your second blow to a person's head ends in his mouth is not loosing a finger - it is not like the man who crossed the road actually took a knife and chopped it off - the tip was removed when the SECOND blow went in his mouth. We do not know what the biter's was and the medical personnel who provided the Medicare for the older man - did not say what it was consistent with - deliberate or accidental.

[nospacesallowed]

Sorry but bullsh*t. The person who threw the punch was the aggressor. He escalated and threw the first punch. Even the fellow protester seemed not to buy that the anti health care reform protester was not the aggressor. Simply put, pointing aggressively at someone is not an aggressive enough move to warrant a punch.

[PaintMaryconley]

no the person who crossed the street to attack someone was the aggressor..

[nospacesallowed]

I didn't see any reports that said the man attacked anyone. He walked up, called the guy an idiot and the guy punched him. Words are not an act of Violence. It is not the case that you can attack someone for saying things about you and have the other person considered the aggressor.

[Stan597]

NoSpace, that kind of argument does not work in the real world, with real people, who have real emotions. I bet a person could provoke you to violence with words. "Ya know what I heard your mom does in her spare time?"

Nothing, I am sure she is a good person, but, I think I made my point.

[nospacesallowed]

Whether or not I could be provoked to violence is not the issue. The question is is violence justified because of name calling? The answer is clearly and more importantly legally, no. You can call me all the names you want, the moment I escalate to violence I become the aggressor. The only exception is if the person was threatening violence.

[imshadi]

It doesn't matter. As a civilized person you don't scream at other people and also you don't hit someone for screaming at you. Why? Because if you don then this horrible things happen.

[TheRealtMG]

In some reports, it was stated that the black-shirted guy was trying to get to the parking lot and had to walk through the counter-protesters to get to the parking lot. The 65 year old guy looked like a tough mf'er. My grandfather could have kicked all your asses up to about the age of 72, so I have no problem believing the old guy was an aggressive asshole. He frigging admitted that he attacked the biter.

[dayglowgreendoor]

Half of those old teabagging fellas are more interested in trying to keep from pooping their White Power pants before going to Dennys. I slapped a TeaBagger in the head hard enough to make him bleed from the ear. He's lucky that I didn't kill him for being a faggoty ass teabagger. That's reicht Teabaggers, I slapped one of you boys reicht in the head and spit in the stupid trailer parkers face. I'd be pleased to do the same to the rest of you reicht wing morons.

[brandonhansentx]

La Raza!? insane, the guy looks white from the pictures and he sure doesn't look like some professional boxer either. At 63 my dad can defend himself just fine against some average middle age coach potato looking dude and I'm sure this 65 yr old guy who threw 2 punches can too.

[brandonhansentx]

1:21 "it all happened so quick" is my favorite response by witnesses, it helps elaborate that they either are withholding information or simply did not see or recollect exactly what transpired. it sure sounds like the cocksucker put some punches on the guy and the guy said "look! fingers! yummy!"

[Smartassawhip]

He shouldn't have put his fist in the mans mouth... I bet he won't do that again.

[johncrwarner]

Thanks for the ad hominem attack, creathavok - seems if you don't have an argument you just start calling names.

I thought the man who had the tip of his finger bitten wanted medicare taken away - or at least the logical conclusion of his stand.

As far as the eye witnesses reported on TV said - they both shouted at each other - so someone over the age of 65 has the right to shout at someone and the other guy should not reply or shout - is that fair?

[johncrwarner]

not sure what "obot punks" are nor why liberals are "bankrupt wall st (sic) losers" - I can only assume that in your view these are insults - if so - may I recommend that you learn to spell your insults correctly and then maybe they will have more power.

[pilotamurorei]

That asshole's attacks wont have any power, even if he spelled in Queen's English. He's a retard, plain and simple.

[johncrwarner]

Interestingly - I disagree with you creathavok - though abusive in public and in private and inconsistent in his application of his own principles - is not a retard.

He is angry, rightwing, misinformed, quite hateful but not a retard.

[johncrwarner]

So you advocate violence to anyone who feels threatened? Most dictators have felt threatened and thus used violence against the enemies or perceived enemies.

You presumably would be supporting them then?

So your world of hitting people because you disagree with them just in case he might hit you - an unpleasant world for me.

[johncrwarner]

Like Hitler's invasion of Poland 70 years ago was a defensive act.

The man who lost the tip of his pinky said he hit the biter TWICE - but then the Poles had allegedly fired shots over the the border at the Germans.

Whatever the question here, being violent was not the answer. The man who used his socialist government single-payer health scheme was the one who threw the first punch - then repeated it.

[noliberalzone]

anytime move on is involved you know there is trouble .. anything to further their cause or make them look good..

[johncrwarner]

Interesting the man who lost the tip of his pinky finger struck the first blow so he started the fight and was the aggressor and with the man who lost the tip of his pinky saying on his SECOND blow it went in the biter's mouth and then he lost his finger - sounds like the man who lost the tip of his pinky should be lucky not to be charged with assault.

Don't tell me - the guy that went to hospital used his medicare - that attack on the liberty of so many Americans he was campaigning against.

[urubtroll2]

You can see that guy in all the adam sandler films in the crowd saying, BITE HIS FINGER OFF!

[geekeasy]

Watch the interview on Fox. The "victim" admits to starting the fight, and throwing 2 punches. After the 2nd punch, his finger somehow ended up in the mouth of the guy he was punching, who then bit down.

It should be no surprise that the victim doesn't want to pursue criminal charges, because he has already confessed on live TV to assault and battery.

[lees20022]

Obama supporters are REAL zombies!!

Real ones that eat human flesh.

[louis12346]

IRS to give similar information to the vast, new health care bureaucracy. personal tax information of millions of Americans would enter the system whether they want it to or not. "There's a mandate to buy insurance," "You have to buy it. You have millions of people who can't buy it without a subsidy, so they will have no choice but to accept the subsidy in order to buy insurance, e Health Choices Commissioner will have access to their tax records."

"How many hands information go through?"

[buzwazfuz]

omg, both these witnesses were fuckin idiots

[bigc028282]

Health care Obamination = TAX to pay off the Federal Reserve for the FIAT money that was wasted on the Bankster bailout, Crap in trade, Crash for clunkers. We were still paying off the "Great Depression". "They created Social Security when the average life expectancy was about 45. What do you think that money was really for? WAKE THE F**K UP. The only difference between the parties is the perception it creates. Are you going to let these criminals keep screwing you out of your life and liberty?

[chadbro97]

what you just said has absolutly no basis in reality

[DeagleBeagle]

no way you could bite off a finger in self defense, whoever did that is at fault, but yes there are more important things we should be focusing on right now but well of course the news will talk more about this than about reform

[maizeysuga]

Why is this news?? That lady is so right; we focus on the retarded shit and not the reform.

[dtt1900]

picking on a 65 year old man? Your a rat coward.

[craftyactivist]

picking on who? the 65 year old man punched a guy for yelling.

twice. he admitted it on fox.

[swampfaye]

That's why you should be bringing video cameras or making sure your phone is always ready to take a picture when you go to these things!

[bigc028282]

Rambo says " they drew first blood". :) Initially I heard the report and said the "O" guy lost his finger. Great media we have here. We can't even get international CNN. What does that tell you about media control in this country? Do you think other countries should see more than you do? The only thing we got out of the last election was change of face. "O" has not change one policy that the Bush admin did. Anyone can utube "Obama lies", and see for them self that there is no difference.

[integral]

Why do you insist on keeping your head up your ass?

[goldgrif]

poor sheeple