Mr TuttingCrowgay<<< you think u can refute??? ok i want you to find out the meaning of Tutting<<< for help thats not an english word :-) go ahead u can't even find the meaning of this word dear find the meaning and i'll accept your Challenge.
Now ill go on the offensive, tell the nice people why you worship a leg named allah. Your god tells you in his book that he is a leg. Is allah a sexy leg?
Its ok I understand the Muslims arent that smart but they love to deceive. You sir have been refuted by me who's still a young believer. I dont hate you I just feel sorry that you believed the lies, heck I know when I left Islam and started to read the Bible those lies that the Muslims told me were spinning in my head but after a basic reading of the text the Muslim claims are shattered.
Water? Buckets? and u accuse me of over complicating the issue? Just stick of Jesus' actual words and please spare me ur analysis that u probably heard from some apologist minister. U have refused to answer Mark 12:29 or John 14;28 and still claim that u have refuted me? Jesus could have simply said the same thing about buckets of water yet he didn't. He made it a point to show the distinction between him and God so who are you to psychoanalyze his words 200 years later? No leg to stand on.
Can you tell me why God uses the statement "I am God" countless times in the Old Testament. yet Jesus never uttered it ONCE in the New Testament? Or could you explain why in Mark 12:29, Jesus says that the Lord is ONE? Also, if Jesus is equal to God, please explain John 14:28. As I've stated before, U attack Islam but never promote your belief. i read your profile and it appears that ur beliefs are Trinitarian. If this is the case, then tell me why I should leave Islam and embrace what you have?
Quick rundown of Gods nature, Ill use a metaphor so I dont confuse ur mind. A bucket can be put into an ocean and water taken out, the water in the ocean and the bucket is 100% the same yet the water in the bucket has a different job to do. Like wise God poured out a part of him into the man of Jesus to fulfill a task, obviously whilst in human form the role of the son is not as strong as the father. Eg. The ocean has far more water than whats in a bucket.
I am a former idol worshipper (ie Trinitarian Christian) and I haven't been convinced by any of your videos to leave Islam. If you want people to leave Islam so bad, why don't you provide a viable alternative. What is your alternative Tottingcowboy? It seems as if you just want to tear down Islam but I haven't seen you promote your beliefs yet. This video didn't make me want to rush back into polytheism and i doubt that any Muslim would do it based on a 3 minute video that proves nothing.
And whos forcing you back? Islam does a great job at cleaning up the filthy people. Islam takes in child molestors, rapists, warcriminals and thugs. Im not saying your one of them chances are you were fooled by a Muslim, he probably told you "we muslims love Jesus hes a great prophet" hehe I saw that alot when I was a Muslim.
PS. This video destroys the claim that the Quran is preserved.
I actually reverted to Islam through research with little to no contact with actual Muslims. I would venture to say the same thing about Christianity cleaning up filthy people. Islam appealed to my sense of logic because after studying history, relativity, and quantum physics I was on the verge of becoming an atheist. After comparing Islam to every other religion (including atheism), I came to the conclusion that what Islam teaches about God coincided perfectly with what I had already studied.
Sorry but you didnt study hard enough, you most likely only payed attention to Muslim sources. What you dont know is that in Islam lying to the non-Muslim to protect Islam is allow.
Islam and logic are non-existant. Tell me is it logical for a hybrid flying donkey to take Muhammad to heaven? Could you explain to me the logic there lol
Is it any more logical to believe that the creator of this entire universe would wrap himself in flesh to die at the hands of the very beings He created? He could create all the laws of physics as well as matter by simply saying "be" yet he could not stop himself from being crucified? Is it any more logical for matter to exist as both a particle and wave? My point is this: u obviously have an illogical hatred in ur heart that no words or sound reasoning could heal. That is your loss not mine.
I really don't see how God being incorruptible reinforces Trinitarian concepts. I have heard the explanations that Christian apologists put forth, but it seems a stretch to me. Since you keep bringing it up, I must ask: where in the Quran does it say anything about Muhammad (pbuh) going to heaven on a hybrid donkey? I never heard that before.
I never said I've been "studying" Islam for 20 years. I was introduced to Islam 20 years ago and it has always made more sense to me than Christianity. And I HAVE heard about the night journey, just not the part about the hybrid donkey. Furthermore, if he had ascended in a hybrid Toyota, it would not make a difference to me because my faith is firm. Is yours? You deliberately take my words out of context, but provide nothing in response. Where is your proof that it didn't occur?
Your confused again... its ok im a very patient man lol
Ok lets start from the beginning, your argument was "Islam is logic" I put forth the argument of the toyota donkey, now I am waiting for you to explain the logic of using a donkey instead of allah saying "come here Muhammad"
Honestly I loose sleep wondering about the amazing logic behind this hahaha
Do you mean logic like instead of putting Himself in a water bucket and dying at the hands of His creation as some sort of sacrificial lamb, He could simply forgive mankind by saying 'you are forgiven"? Do you mean logic like that?
Who cares if the Quran Has been preserved or not! devote yourself to sth useful instead of talkin about books or bulshit! people won't change their opinions, the same like you.
If you have same more matirials to soport yours vidio, please send it to me, I will be very, very thenksfull to you. I do reserch and debate muslims to get at list one of them out of the pit. Thank you very mach!!!
Lol in this video dont proof that the quran have been change unlike the bible they have find the original once and you can proof which verses have been change
There is only one Bible but many translations because there are thousands of languages around the world. You see unlike Islam where the official langauge is Arabic, the real God of Israel Yahweh wants his word to be spread around the globe.
LOL the bible have been prooven by scientist its have been change..And they show you the verses...Quran have not been change...I can proof that by the original ones...
The Bible has been the most thoroughly investigated book in human history and still comes out on top.
The Quran today on the other hand is different to teh oldest manuscirpts which scientists have found. Muslims today are put in a awkward position in trying to explain this away because they believe the Quran is one but there are many different Qurans in the world not just 2.
Muslims are well aware that vowels had to be added so an outsider can understand. But They have the originals. . You can't do that with bible as there is no original.
Yes, yes you do. You have an original Quran which has no vowles but unlucky for you this Quran, the San'aa Manuscirpts are different to todays Quran hahaah XD
Perfect example of typical ex-muslim behavior. They have no pride in their new religion so they bash the old one because it helps them feel better that they left it. And also because they cant bear the fact that soo many people are converting so they put out information like this because they dont want people to love what they hate lol
When you cant break me with words or facts, you resort to lying
Great job, i guess the one that wanted to stop people from joining islam or get people to leave islam was an uneducated guy, who didn't have any valid arguments or valid lies
A little tip, have fun with your religion, do whatever you want its your life, however you have no right in other peoples lives, if they wanna join islam, fine let them, its their lives what are you, their daddy? I guess i won, have fun in hell.
Take it easy baby, yes you exposed me, you have shown the whole world that I hate Islam and all those times when I said allah was awesome during my muslim upbringing I was lying.
Anyways, we both know that i have won this argument, and unlike your sad life my whole life doesnt circle around hating, I wanna enjoy my lifetime and the sun is shining so im gonna go out with friends, have fun sitting on the computer.
And you call me baby while you clearly know that a baby couldn't argument this good
Freudian Projection much?
Remember people this uneducated man is trying to make people leave islam, because of what uneducated muslims have said. Dont judge a book by its cover
Ofcourse im trying to make people leave, Islam. If you had looked at my profile you would have seen thats my main goal! LMAO. You can attack my personal character all you want, its ok my body will eventually die but the truth will remain the same. Lies like Islam will fall very soon.
You "hope" I get punishment? I dont wish that upon the Muslims, even with Osama bin Ladin I hope that he turns away from the satanic religion of Islam and comes to Yahweh.
So why did you omit my comment mate????? This is because you did not like it. Because it is the truth. This is exactly how did your people corrupted the Bible. Omitting from the Bible and adding other words to it and claim it is from GOD. If you want aa evidence showing how the Bible was corrupted watch this video.
Nah Gods inspired word the Scriptures have nto been corrupted, you'd like that tho cause satan hates God and you unknowingly worship satan.
This video on the other hand clearly demonstrates that the quran has changed so much that the oldest quranic manuscript found is different to your today :)
I worship SATAN !!!!!! IS that becasue i believe God is one, has unlimited power, nothing like him and he sent all the prophets with his message for human kind to giude them to his path? Unlike you who worship three GODS in one GOD!!!!!! A MAN GOD????? with no proof. this is the difference between me and you. See what the Christian proffesor lecturing in the University about Bible corruption in your country.
Nah I worship one God whos name is Yahweh not allah or krishna or buddah etc.
To say the Bible is corrupt would be like putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger, no sane intellectual would dare to say such a thing unlike the quran, we have Dr's and specialists who readily admit the Quran has "evolved"
And yes you worship satan, he has decived you into believing hes "one" and hes "powerful" and "unlimited."
you worship three persons. Do not say one god. Can God be three and one at the same time? What a confusion. Did Jesus say i am God worship me? Did he say i am here to die on the cross and forgive your sins? NOT ONCE.
Lol do you even think before you type? From what I've read from your comment and private msg's you sound like a 17 year old keyboard haji warrior.
You first say we worship 3 Gods, then you say 1 God now you insist 3 Gods again lol maybe all that salat headbanging has given you brain damage hahahahahaha
Isnt it funny how its only the Quran is saying this? While the Bible on the other hand has many authors saying the same thing. In court who would you believe?
This "fake" quran was followed by the early muslims and its the oldest known written quran. You muslims are in a whole heap of trouble trying to explain this XD
so what if there were no marks before..i knew that..but that is because the arabs in the time of prophet Muhammad (saws) didn't need them because they memorized the Qur'an and they knew even how to read it correctly without the marks.. but because the change in the language over time it was necisery to put the marks as a tool for people so that they would read and understand it correctly.. Qur'an has not been changed and never will be, because people memorize it from generation to generation..
This is the oldest WRITTEN quran and it is different to the quran you sunnis have and the shias have. So your quran has been changed over time as the experts say.
I'm talking about the meaning/understanding of what the Quran is saying(is there another way?).The Quran is a verbal revelation which has not changed!,the sound of recite is the same which prevents it from becoming historical or too old to follow.(its not a text revelation!).Can you imagine a Quran with 30/20/10 choices of words in one sentence?(no!).There is a fixated understanding of the Quran which should not be fixated,e.g. verse 4:34 My Quran has the word"ADMONISH them"(not "BEAT her/them")
nice video, but indeed, Qur'an was given to the Prophet (pbuh) orally and if you notice, before they had to write it in skins of animals, wood etc. there were also expert memorizers, who memorize everything in an instant, due to Islam becoming a large religion, Qur'an was written and recited in many different ways, so the Caliphs preserved the Qur'an by burning the other copies and giving the real Qur'an to the people, so it is preserved, i am sorry i didn't understand the message of the video.
You debunked your own agrument about the early Muslims having good memories. If that was the case then why, in your own words were there so many different qurans floating around? Your Caliphate Umar had to cover this shame up by burning all the other qurans and keeping just one LMAO Your quran is beyond corrupt.
As I said, Islam was spreading fast and far, and during that time there were 7 dialects of Arabic in the time of the Prophet (saw), and the people that spoke in those dialects wrote the quran in thier dialect. When the commission to preserve the quran in the dialect of the Prophet(saw) which is the Quraishi dialect was choosen to be the best form for the preservation. Thus all other copies in different dialect were destoryed so that there were no confusion about it in the future.
Hahha dialects? Is that what they told you? The 9 or 10 qurans Uthmans burned were all in the same language/dialect but he got rid of them because they were all different in terms of words and meanings XD
Meaning there were other Qurans during the time, and since Uthman (the man who burnt the many qurans) was not a prophet of God or "allah" he had a 10% chance of getting the correct quran. Hehe youd get better odds in Vagas!
How will it feel to wake up in your snake infested grave? to have said such pitiful words?
you will be in trial in the Ahkirah, guaranteed there's no escape even in your new religion. there is a penance you will pay for saying such evil to the name of God. oh such pitiful ignorance.
I saw all ur video are just concretisize the Islam religion, what's ur message ? do u have nothing to say about ur religion ? all of u the christians when u failed prouving the truth of ur trinity u start finding out others fault.
One information: the Quran has revealed to the prophet MUHAMMAD ( PBUH ) oral as and not written, and he transfere it to his followers oral as well, and is still transfered by rememberance untill now.
Whenever you see the truth follow it or they will call u ignorant.
I love your name, reminds me of a man who destroyed the Islamic empire with one signature =)
You say this video doesnt discredit the Qur'an because you said Muhammad recieved it orally. If you were paying attention the video was saying the transfer from oral to written text was disorganised. Some verses were out of order and some words were chnaged thus the Quran is corrupt and allah got raped because Muslims kept forgetting his words lol XD
Mr TuttingCrowgay<<< you think u can refute??? ok i want you to find out the meaning of Tutting<<< for help thats not an english word :-) go ahead u can't even find the meaning of this word dear find the meaning and i'll accept your Challenge.
SuperOhable 2 years ago
tutting is way of dancing^^
rapartist43 2 years ago
Text isn't what preserved Quran it's the people who memorize it.
SaifoMano 2 years ago
I hope your joking cause that would destroy Islam in a second.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
You don't even try to understand anything, you're just a hater. Thousands of clues points that Islam is the right path.
SaifoMano 2 years ago
Tell us one and we'll refute you.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
"we",huh? As I said you're not even trying to understand anything or think about what I'm gonna say. One piece of advice: search for the truth.
SaifoMano 2 years ago
Yes "we" as in me and Mossad and the CIA. You konw we get paid to do this haha
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
What clues? Stop running away or dancing around the subject. I want to know why islam is the right path...
rapartist43 2 years ago
People make mistakes, so therefore this is no argument.
rapartist43 2 years ago
Now ill go on the offensive, tell the nice people why you worship a leg named allah. Your god tells you in his book that he is a leg. Is allah a sexy leg?
surah 68 aya 42
LOL good luck!
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
On the day when it befalleth in earnest, and they are ordered to prostrate themselves but are not able, i don't say anything that says allah is a leg
fightantichrist 2 years ago
and to whom are they prostrating to? LOL the answers infront of you silly muslim.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
it's talking to people who deny god's message like u and people who believe that jesus is god
fightantichrist 2 years ago
yes ofcourse but WHO are they bowing to? lokl
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
it's saying the people who disbelieve in god are not able to bow which is showing how disobedient people like u are
fightantichrist 2 years ago
OK i will keep this very simple.
WHO ARE THE DISBELIEVERS BOWING TO?
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
there not able to bow to god /allah
fightantichrist 2 years ago
And this "allah" is described as a thigh, which is a fancy way of saying "leg".
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
Its ok I understand the Muslims arent that smart but they love to deceive. You sir have been refuted by me who's still a young believer. I dont hate you I just feel sorry that you believed the lies, heck I know when I left Islam and started to read the Bible those lies that the Muslims told me were spinning in my head but after a basic reading of the text the Muslim claims are shattered.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
Water? Buckets? and u accuse me of over complicating the issue? Just stick of Jesus' actual words and please spare me ur analysis that u probably heard from some apologist minister. U have refused to answer Mark 12:29 or John 14;28 and still claim that u have refuted me? Jesus could have simply said the same thing about buckets of water yet he didn't. He made it a point to show the distinction between him and God so who are you to psychoanalyze his words 200 years later? No leg to stand on.
TeeKay0158 2 years ago
Wow not even a bucket off water is understandable for you? Yikes you reallly are in trouble lol
I have clearly explained to you those two points and I wont repeat myself. Its simply your ego that wont allow urself to accept it.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
Can you tell me why God uses the statement "I am God" countless times in the Old Testament. yet Jesus never uttered it ONCE in the New Testament? Or could you explain why in Mark 12:29, Jesus says that the Lord is ONE? Also, if Jesus is equal to God, please explain John 14:28. As I've stated before, U attack Islam but never promote your belief. i read your profile and it appears that ur beliefs are Trinitarian. If this is the case, then tell me why I should leave Islam and embrace what you have?
TeeKay0158 2 years ago
Quick rundown of Gods nature, Ill use a metaphor so I dont confuse ur mind. A bucket can be put into an ocean and water taken out, the water in the ocean and the bucket is 100% the same yet the water in the bucket has a different job to do. Like wise God poured out a part of him into the man of Jesus to fulfill a task, obviously whilst in human form the role of the son is not as strong as the father. Eg. The ocean has far more water than whats in a bucket.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
I am a former idol worshipper (ie Trinitarian Christian) and I haven't been convinced by any of your videos to leave Islam. If you want people to leave Islam so bad, why don't you provide a viable alternative. What is your alternative Tottingcowboy? It seems as if you just want to tear down Islam but I haven't seen you promote your beliefs yet. This video didn't make me want to rush back into polytheism and i doubt that any Muslim would do it based on a 3 minute video that proves nothing.
TeeKay0158 2 years ago
And whos forcing you back? Islam does a great job at cleaning up the filthy people. Islam takes in child molestors, rapists, warcriminals and thugs. Im not saying your one of them chances are you were fooled by a Muslim, he probably told you "we muslims love Jesus hes a great prophet" hehe I saw that alot when I was a Muslim.
PS. This video destroys the claim that the Quran is preserved.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
I actually reverted to Islam through research with little to no contact with actual Muslims. I would venture to say the same thing about Christianity cleaning up filthy people. Islam appealed to my sense of logic because after studying history, relativity, and quantum physics I was on the verge of becoming an atheist. After comparing Islam to every other religion (including atheism), I came to the conclusion that what Islam teaches about God coincided perfectly with what I had already studied.
TeeKay0158 2 years ago
Sorry but you didnt study hard enough, you most likely only payed attention to Muslim sources. What you dont know is that in Islam lying to the non-Muslim to protect Islam is allow.
Islam and logic are non-existant. Tell me is it logical for a hybrid flying donkey to take Muhammad to heaven? Could you explain to me the logic there lol
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
Is it any more logical to believe that the creator of this entire universe would wrap himself in flesh to die at the hands of the very beings He created? He could create all the laws of physics as well as matter by simply saying "be" yet he could not stop himself from being crucified? Is it any more logical for matter to exist as both a particle and wave? My point is this: u obviously have an illogical hatred in ur heart that no words or sound reasoning could heal. That is your loss not mine.
TeeKay0158 2 years ago
Actually it makes perfect sense if you believe God is incorruptible and if you bothered to read the sacrificial laws as stated in the Torah.
Now example to me the hybrid donkey bit, I mean as I kid I was like "wowowow THATS awesome" but know I think Muhammad made the whole thing up.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
I really don't see how God being incorruptible reinforces Trinitarian concepts. I have heard the explanations that Christian apologists put forth, but it seems a stretch to me. Since you keep bringing it up, I must ask: where in the Quran does it say anything about Muhammad (pbuh) going to heaven on a hybrid donkey? I never heard that before.
TeeKay0158 2 years ago
Yep folks this man has been studying Islam for 20 years and hes never heard about hte nights journey lol good work Muslim guys XD
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
I never said I've been "studying" Islam for 20 years. I was introduced to Islam 20 years ago and it has always made more sense to me than Christianity. And I HAVE heard about the night journey, just not the part about the hybrid donkey. Furthermore, if he had ascended in a hybrid Toyota, it would not make a difference to me because my faith is firm. Is yours? You deliberately take my words out of context, but provide nothing in response. Where is your proof that it didn't occur?
TeeKay0158 2 years ago
Your confused again... its ok im a very patient man lol
Ok lets start from the beginning, your argument was "Islam is logic" I put forth the argument of the toyota donkey, now I am waiting for you to explain the logic of using a donkey instead of allah saying "come here Muhammad"
Honestly I loose sleep wondering about the amazing logic behind this hahaha
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
Do you mean logic like instead of putting Himself in a water bucket and dying at the hands of His creation as some sort of sacrificial lamb, He could simply forgive mankind by saying 'you are forgiven"? Do you mean logic like that?
TeeKay0158 2 years ago
Why ofcourse because unlike allah The True Creature of the Universe Yahweh is not a corrupt and evil entity.
Notice how your not even debating it now your just putting forth your opinion. Hhehehe its ok I understand the pain of Muslimss...
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
and who even cares if you exist or not! hahahaha
bacteriasnipper 2 years ago
Who cares if the Quran Has been preserved or not! devote yourself to sth useful instead of talkin about books or bulshit! people won't change their opinions, the same like you.
bacteriasnipper 2 years ago
Says who? If Muslims are told their book is not authentic then their religion does down the toilet
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
If you have same more matirials to soport yours vidio, please send it to me, I will be very, very thenksfull to you. I do reserch and debate muslims to get at list one of them out of the pit. Thank you very mach!!!
MrEdwardJohn 2 years ago
Lol in this video dont proof that the quran have been change unlike the bible they have find the original once and you can proof which verses have been change
sucambo 2 years ago
Then you didnt watch the video =)
There is only one Bible but many translations because there are thousands of languages around the world. You see unlike Islam where the official langauge is Arabic, the real God of Israel Yahweh wants his word to be spread around the globe.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
LOL the bible have been prooven by scientist its have been change..And they show you the verses...Quran have not been change...I can proof that by the original ones...
sucambo 2 years ago
The Bible has been the most thoroughly investigated book in human history and still comes out on top.
The Quran today on the other hand is different to teh oldest manuscirpts which scientists have found. Muslims today are put in a awkward position in trying to explain this away because they believe the Quran is one but there are many different Qurans in the world not just 2.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
Perhaps you are worried that there are many more Satanic verses. But then isn't all if it for its sheer evilness and cruelty, sheer evil?!?
courag1 2 years ago
Muslims are well aware that vowels had to be added so an outsider can understand. But They have the originals. . You can't do that with bible as there is no original.
kazakhseven 2 years ago
Yes, yes you do. You have an original Quran which has no vowles but unlucky for you this Quran, the San'aa Manuscirpts are different to todays Quran hahaah XD
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
Very enlightening video......hope keep coming.....investigateislam.......keep a good work
strangerintime 3 years ago
where did you get the video of this ? I want to see the rest of it
sgreen4 3 years ago
tottingcowboy. why did you leave islam. you will soon realize you made the wrong choice.
nguyenthanh8 3 years ago
I left cause an athiest offered me a cheeseburger and coke if I left.
You'd think that but I dont fear black arabian rocks :)
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
i'm actually malaysian/chinese muslim.
nguyenthanh8 3 years ago
And that has what to do with my statement? Lay off the Zamzam water brother its loaded with camel urine.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
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Perfect example of typical ex-muslim behavior. They have no pride in their new religion so they bash the old one because it helps them feel better that they left it. And also because they cant bear the fact that soo many people are converting so they put out information like this because they dont want people to love what they hate lol
hijabiflower 3 years ago
Exactly, and look he doesn't answer to you because he knows its true.
LacosteShirtman 2 years ago
Me and Hijabi have been in contact through private PM, I'm doing her a favor ;)
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
When you cant break me with words or facts, you resort to lying
Great job, i guess the one that wanted to stop people from joining islam or get people to leave islam was an uneducated guy, who didn't have any valid arguments or valid lies
A little tip, have fun with your religion, do whatever you want its your life, however you have no right in other peoples lives, if they wanna join islam, fine let them, its their lives what are you, their daddy? I guess i won, have fun in hell.
LacosteShirtman 2 years ago
Take it easy baby, yes you exposed me, you have shown the whole world that I hate Islam and all those times when I said allah was awesome during my muslim upbringing I was lying.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
Anyways, we both know that i have won this argument, and unlike your sad life my whole life doesnt circle around hating, I wanna enjoy my lifetime and the sun is shining so im gonna go out with friends, have fun sitting on the computer.
And you call me baby while you clearly know that a baby couldn't argument this good
Freudian Projection much?
Remember people this uneducated man is trying to make people leave islam, because of what uneducated muslims have said. Dont judge a book by its cover
LacosteShirtman 2 years ago
Ofcourse im trying to make people leave, Islam. If you had looked at my profile you would have seen thats my main goal! LMAO. You can attack my personal character all you want, its ok my body will eventually die but the truth will remain the same. Lies like Islam will fall very soon.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
I'll just keep laughing at your remarks. just wait. soon we will all know. i hope you get your punishment.
nguyenthanh8 3 years ago
You "hope" I get punishment? I dont wish that upon the Muslims, even with Osama bin Ladin I hope that he turns away from the satanic religion of Islam and comes to Yahweh.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
@nguyenthanh8: why should he..? islam is a peacefull religion, isn't it...
this is the fundament of your religious belief... FEAR
atheism will dominate the world...
TheLiquidLight 3 years ago
why would u hope someone would be punished?
is that wat they teach you...
freeformrules 3 years ago
What a cheap lie. Try to find a seriuos one mate.
aussihamada 3 years ago
Without knowledge you will doom yourself, so continue to remain ignorant at your own peril.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
So why did you omit my comment mate????? This is because you did not like it. Because it is the truth. This is exactly how did your people corrupted the Bible. Omitting from the Bible and adding other words to it and claim it is from GOD. If you want aa evidence showing how the Bible was corrupted watch this video.
(watch?v=_rcxJ3Fpzu0&feature=channel_page)
aussihamada 3 years ago
Nah Gods inspired word the Scriptures have nto been corrupted, you'd like that tho cause satan hates God and you unknowingly worship satan.
This video on the other hand clearly demonstrates that the quran has changed so much that the oldest quranic manuscript found is different to your today :)
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
I worship SATAN !!!!!! IS that becasue i believe God is one, has unlimited power, nothing like him and he sent all the prophets with his message for human kind to giude them to his path? Unlike you who worship three GODS in one GOD!!!!!! A MAN GOD????? with no proof. this is the difference between me and you. See what the Christian proffesor lecturing in the University about Bible corruption in your country.
(watch?v=_rcxJ3Fpzu0&feature=c hannel_page)
aussihamada 3 years ago
Nah I worship one God whos name is Yahweh not allah or krishna or buddah etc.
To say the Bible is corrupt would be like putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger, no sane intellectual would dare to say such a thing unlike the quran, we have Dr's and specialists who readily admit the Quran has "evolved"
And yes you worship satan, he has decived you into believing hes "one" and hes "powerful" and "unlimited."
O pagan muslim wake up before its too late! :)
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
You Bible says THREE PERONS IN ONE GOD !!!!!
you worship three persons. Do not say one god. Can God be three and one at the same time? What a confusion. Did Jesus say i am God worship me? Did he say i am here to die on the cross and forgive your sins? NOT ONCE.
You are the one who worships SATAN. Not me.
aussihamada 3 years ago
Lol do you even think before you type? From what I've read from your comment and private msg's you sound like a 17 year old keyboard haji warrior.
You first say we worship 3 Gods, then you say 1 God now you insist 3 Gods again lol maybe all that salat headbanging has given you brain damage hahahahahaha
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
Isnt it funny how its only the Quran is saying this? While the Bible on the other hand has many authors saying the same thing. In court who would you believe?
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
this scripture was a fake. just because it is old does not mean it is authentic
slanker786 3 years ago
This "fake" quran was followed by the early muslims and its the oldest known written quran. You muslims are in a whole heap of trouble trying to explain this XD
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
so what if there were no marks before..i knew that..but that is because the arabs in the time of prophet Muhammad (saws) didn't need them because they memorized the Qur'an and they knew even how to read it correctly without the marks.. but because the change in the language over time it was necisery to put the marks as a tool for people so that they would read and understand it correctly.. Qur'an has not been changed and never will be, because people memorize it from generation to generation..
khalifbih 3 years ago
This is the oldest WRITTEN quran and it is different to the quran you sunnis have and the shias have. So your quran has been changed over time as the experts say.
Peace ;D
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
There should be more clips on this issue. Nice clip!
greenplanets 3 years ago
I'm talking about the meaning/understanding of what the Quran is saying(is there another way?).The Quran is a verbal revelation which has not changed!,the sound of recite is the same which prevents it from becoming historical or too old to follow.(its not a text revelation!).Can you imagine a Quran with 30/20/10 choices of words in one sentence?(no!).There is a fixated understanding of the Quran which should not be fixated,e.g. verse 4:34 My Quran has the word"ADMONISH them"(not "BEAT her/them")
greenplanets 3 years ago
The oldest Quran is recited differently to the Quran that is recited today. Someone changed it to be different. Its corrupt.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
nice video, but indeed, Qur'an was given to the Prophet (pbuh) orally and if you notice, before they had to write it in skins of animals, wood etc. there were also expert memorizers, who memorize everything in an instant, due to Islam becoming a large religion, Qur'an was written and recited in many different ways, so the Caliphs preserved the Qur'an by burning the other copies and giving the real Qur'an to the people, so it is preserved, i am sorry i didn't understand the message of the video.
whasmyname 3 years ago
Yes its a great video =)
You debunked your own agrument about the early Muslims having good memories. If that was the case then why, in your own words were there so many different qurans floating around? Your Caliphate Umar had to cover this shame up by burning all the other qurans and keeping just one LMAO Your quran is beyond corrupt.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
As I said, Islam was spreading fast and far, and during that time there were 7 dialects of Arabic in the time of the Prophet (saw), and the people that spoke in those dialects wrote the quran in thier dialect. When the commission to preserve the quran in the dialect of the Prophet(saw) which is the Quraishi dialect was choosen to be the best form for the preservation. Thus all other copies in different dialect were destoryed so that there were no confusion about it in the future.
whasmyname 3 years ago
Hahha dialects? Is that what they told you? The 9 or 10 qurans Uthmans burned were all in the same language/dialect but he got rid of them because they were all different in terms of words and meanings XD
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
Yes thank you, he burned the corrupted Qurans, unlike the bible in which there are like 1000000000 of them, right?
jcas91 3 years ago
Meaning there were other Qurans during the time, and since Uthman (the man who burnt the many qurans) was not a prophet of God or "allah" he had a 10% chance of getting the correct quran. Hehe youd get better odds in Vagas!
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
How will it feel to wake up in your snake infested grave? to have said such pitiful words?
you will be in trial in the Ahkirah, guaranteed there's no escape even in your new religion. there is a penance you will pay for saying such evil to the name of God. oh such pitiful ignorance.
1kinfolk1 3 years ago
So thats why Muslims stick corks up dead bodies behinds hahahaha
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
I saw all ur video are just concretisize the Islam religion, what's ur message ? do u have nothing to say about ur religion ? all of u the christians when u failed prouving the truth of ur trinity u start finding out others fault.
One information: the Quran has revealed to the prophet MUHAMMAD ( PBUH ) oral as and not written, and he transfere it to his followers oral as well, and is still transfered by rememberance untill now.
Whenever you see the truth follow it or they will call u ignorant.
moooooostafa 3 years ago
I love your name, reminds me of a man who destroyed the Islamic empire with one signature =)
You say this video doesnt discredit the Qur'an because you said Muhammad recieved it orally. If you were paying attention the video was saying the transfer from oral to written text was disorganised. Some verses were out of order and some words were chnaged thus the Quran is corrupt and allah got raped because Muslims kept forgetting his words lol XD
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
I wish that man had lived longer, say 15 more years. Ignorance would've been crushed.
osmanca 3 years ago