I think it's very telling that people question what the government tells them more and more every day. It's obvious we've been lied to and manipulated for decades. It disturbs me that young people still look to the government to solve problems. More often than not, the government IS the problem.
So for me, the real question (which I actually don't care a whole lot about specifically) is whether this is more a consequence of some FBI team ginning up a conspiracy because they want promotions, or whether there's a premeditated political motivation behind the accusation.
If our corrupt bought and paid for banker and corporate whore government is touting this crap that's about all one needs to know that it is a total bunch of Bullshit with a capital "B".
Makes no sense whatsoever from an Iranian perspective. The FBI is good at recruiting patsies, practically goading them into action, in order to justify the continued bogus war on terror. And yes, I agree with Glenn Greenwald's article wholeheartedly.
Thinking....made up/false flag, as you are saying, and check what Hilllary Mann Leverett said on Al Jazeera. You probably remember that Hillary has been calling for violence against Iran for years, that she voted for the invasion of Iraq, (in the face of opposition from the majority of her constituents), and of course one could remember her husband's policies and bombing of the Chinese embassy in the former Yugoslavia.
@givebirthathome I agree, Iran is basically rational, and its not rational for them to do this. However, on Fox News, the talking point spin, to defuse such a basis for critically thinking disregard for fearmongering, is exactly, as you say, that they are not rational. No less than Netanyahu himself, has explicitly made this dehumanizing, demonizing point that "the mad mullahs" are suicidal----false though this point is, it is made.
@givebirthathome iran is rational??? as rational as the 13th imam or the book of revelations?
I think this ploy was a revenge tactic sponsored by iran: they are constantly having professors and scientists with links to the nuclear program mysteriously vanished...could be cia or mossad...then again it could be their own ministry of intel fabricating their own false flag.
my point is you have probably no idea who is really pulling the strings or who is even involved.
@scotthebruce2 That's silly, either-or thinking Scott. Iran is as rational and responsible as most states, and your argument about "a revenge tactic" is based on very little. Saudi funded the Iraqi war on Iran in the 80's, and apparently the Iranians did not resort to terrorism then, so there's little reason to think they are engaged in such an incompetent plot now. And...why would Saudi be the target of revenge for actions of the CIA/Mossad? I'm done here.
@givebirthathome Whoops, two Hillary's here--that may confuse some people reading my comment. Hillary Mann Leverett, is an analyst, who is against warmongering. Hillary Clinton....is another cup of tea.
Pretending Due Process is a bothersome technicality rather than one of the pillars of civil society has come into vogue with the current regime. Even if this Iran thing is legit, it would have been diplomatically prudent to keep it off the record, instead they went full retard. Clearly another ploy by the defense industry to generate revenue.
You do realize of course, that your long beard will only play into the marxist critique in terms of the media play on all of this...
I know, via your past videos, that you are very critical towards all systems, but people have been brainwashed enough to believe the worst about us. I hate this public relations stuff, but the fact is, that it is very effective, and too many people are too fucking brainwashed. You look too much like marx :)
young turks did a really interesting breakdown of the phony iran story tonight, i imagine it'll be on youtube tomorrow. he pretty much agrees with you but goes into some different details on it.
This no doubt could lead to an invasion of Iran; another war and for what? To keep people away from the real issues. The people are too tired to react to this - most know this is a setup, and if not, why go immediately to sending war like threats. I don't understand, how much more pain can the American people take?
What do you think about Glenn Beck? He was isolated and taken out from Fox. Was that a direct order from the very top?
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justincgs 4 months ago
elliot, I love the line: "quite possibly almost entirely fabricated incident"
LOL
scotthebruce2 4 months ago
I think it's very telling that people question what the government tells them more and more every day. It's obvious we've been lied to and manipulated for decades. It disturbs me that young people still look to the government to solve problems. More often than not, the government IS the problem.
pretorious700 4 months ago
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The bullshit has to stop. Ron Paul 2012
617whitey 4 months ago
How's that hope and change working out for ya?
truthforamerica 4 months ago
@truthforamerica oh you must be so clever!
scotthebruce2 4 months ago
So for me, the real question (which I actually don't care a whole lot about specifically) is whether this is more a consequence of some FBI team ginning up a conspiracy because they want promotions, or whether there's a premeditated political motivation behind the accusation.
funkalunatic 4 months ago
system of a down rocks!
wckdclwn911 4 months ago
If our corrupt bought and paid for banker and corporate whore government is touting this crap that's about all one needs to know that it is a total bunch of Bullshit with a capital "B".
UU361 4 months ago
Makes no sense whatsoever from an Iranian perspective. The FBI is good at recruiting patsies, practically goading them into action, in order to justify the continued bogus war on terror. And yes, I agree with Glenn Greenwald's article wholeheartedly.
55ella2007k 4 months ago
Thinking....made up/false flag, as you are saying, and check what Hilllary Mann Leverett said on Al Jazeera. You probably remember that Hillary has been calling for violence against Iran for years, that she voted for the invasion of Iraq, (in the face of opposition from the majority of her constituents), and of course one could remember her husband's policies and bombing of the Chinese embassy in the former Yugoslavia.
givebirthathome 4 months ago
@givebirthathome I agree, Iran is basically rational, and its not rational for them to do this. However, on Fox News, the talking point spin, to defuse such a basis for critically thinking disregard for fearmongering, is exactly, as you say, that they are not rational. No less than Netanyahu himself, has explicitly made this dehumanizing, demonizing point that "the mad mullahs" are suicidal----false though this point is, it is made.
givebirthathome 4 months ago
@givebirthathome iran is rational??? as rational as the 13th imam or the book of revelations?
I think this ploy was a revenge tactic sponsored by iran: they are constantly having professors and scientists with links to the nuclear program mysteriously vanished...could be cia or mossad...then again it could be their own ministry of intel fabricating their own false flag.
my point is you have probably no idea who is really pulling the strings or who is even involved.
scotthebruce2 4 months ago
@scotthebruce2 That's silly, either-or thinking Scott. Iran is as rational and responsible as most states, and your argument about "a revenge tactic" is based on very little. Saudi funded the Iraqi war on Iran in the 80's, and apparently the Iranians did not resort to terrorism then, so there's little reason to think they are engaged in such an incompetent plot now. And...why would Saudi be the target of revenge for actions of the CIA/Mossad? I'm done here.
givebirthathome 4 months ago
@givebirthathome Whoops, two Hillary's here--that may confuse some people reading my comment. Hillary Mann Leverett, is an analyst, who is against warmongering. Hillary Clinton....is another cup of tea.
givebirthathome 4 months ago
shouldnt American meida tell this kind of BS on 4 july
paymanmktr 4 months ago
I lost track of your channel for a while, and suddenly you look like santa biker, what happened?
NShimaru 4 months ago
@MadICBM They have computers in your ward?
pretorious700 4 months ago
Iran has its nuts in a vice with American armies on both sides of it. This is not
a position in which one starts a war with the Saudis by hiring an unreliable
mexican cartel assassin.
But like you say it stinks of a manufactured incident, I'd suspect Mossad and the
usual players here.
tyrbolo 4 months ago
Must be planning to be a pirate for Halloween. Kick ass beard indeed.
cfr53 4 months ago
Pretending Due Process is a bothersome technicality rather than one of the pillars of civil society has come into vogue with the current regime. Even if this Iran thing is legit, it would have been diplomatically prudent to keep it off the record, instead they went full retard. Clearly another ploy by the defense industry to generate revenue.
neotoy 4 months ago
I feel it's a rerun Iraq thing and we must take to the streets in mass. Impressive beard BTW.
OurFadedGarden 4 months ago
Yeah...pretty much predictable at this point :)
You do realize of course, that your long beard will only play into the marxist critique in terms of the media play on all of this...
I know, via your past videos, that you are very critical towards all systems, but people have been brainwashed enough to believe the worst about us. I hate this public relations stuff, but the fact is, that it is very effective, and too many people are too fucking brainwashed. You look too much like marx :)
55ella2007k 4 months ago
Good argument.....caim here from a tyt link
Redpilldown 4 months ago
If Israel didn't exist, no one in the US would know Iran existed.
pretorious700 4 months ago
young turks did a really interesting breakdown of the phony iran story tonight, i imagine it'll be on youtube tomorrow. he pretty much agrees with you but goes into some different details on it.
LiberaLib 4 months ago
This no doubt could lead to an invasion of Iran; another war and for what? To keep people away from the real issues. The people are too tired to react to this - most know this is a setup, and if not, why go immediately to sending war like threats. I don't understand, how much more pain can the American people take?
jgaves 4 months ago
false flag bullshit
wubbadubdub 4 months ago
The Iran Assassination thing? It is a joke...smoke screen to cover the gun running...smoke and mirrors as it were...
OlGreyWolf58 4 months ago