@Eistroll0Wie0 There is a female and male side to any woman and man.
You are just both..you might be a female with masculine way of life/dressing, or a male with feminine way of life/dressing, without defining yourself as a male or female..
You just simply are both, like you can be a male now and in an hour be wearing make up feeling like a female..
@Eistroll0Wie0 Really, it's mostly the lack of wanting to be one gender or another (There's a difference between gender and sex. Sex is what they put on your birth certificate; gender is how you feel. Most people identify with the same gender and sex, but some don't. It's not that you don't KNOW the difference in your own/other people's sexes and genders, it's more that you don't *want* the difference in your own gender. Hope that answered your question, dear! :)
one thing i notice is that many genetic males use lots of paint (makeup) and other industrial foistments (body-warping clothes) to make themselves look female. I don't have a problem with that, of course, but it does stick in my craw a bit while trying to swallow the idea that they feel that they have both genders in them in sufficient strength that each needs to be expressed outwardly. IOW, they can't pull off looking like a "girl" without all the crap that corporate media have pushed on women.
This is great. I think I first saw this about two years ago. This video explains androgyny very well. It explained it to me, actually. And now I actually define as an androgyne.
I don't like the rhetoric that androgyny is the ideal. There seems to be a building anti-hetero movement that thinks gender is souly socially constructed. I disagree with this premise but do agree that SOME people are androgynous and some people hold to their specific sexual preference. I am straight and this is natural for ME. If your gay thats natural for you and if your both or your not even interested in sex thats perfectly fine. We need to stop saying one is better then the other.
@chadpratch Not better than other, but what is manly or feminine is mostly a cultural thing. Even though most women want to attract men that doesn't mean they want to achieve it by trying to make thems look pretty. And things like male or female wear is just rubbish (maybe with the exception of bra). Men have always worn dresses, but nowadays it's seen as a girly thing to do; but they are comfortable and easy to make. It would be good if we could just forget about g restrictions and just liv
I feel the same I m a boy attracted by girl, but since I m born I want to be like a girl, it s a strange feeling that people can' t understand ! it s so sad ...
im express myself on the more masculine side if i wear sumthing that is 2 femmy i have 2 take it off i get upset nd i jus dont feel like doin anything i am bio female tho thats the thing i do luv women so when ppl say if ur gay its complicated since i never felt like a woman more of a man of wat i have seen wat men/women suppose 2 act like nd wat is a man or woman nd wat r they suppose 2 feel like anyway but i do agree w / the lady i will have to play around with this androgyny thing more
Never knew it wasn't such a strange thing to want to be androgynous. I've always kind of been struggling with what I am, until recently.
I considered FTM, but the idea of the surgeries and hormones and actually wanting to /become/ a man turned me off. Then I realized a month ago that I could just be androgynous, and now I realize there are other people already doing the same thing.
@Ebillan I spent a while thinking I might be MTF too, and it really sucked. We're taught from childhood that there are only boys and girls, but we're proof that isn't true, you know?
The guy with the long brown is so cute :D, I feel the same way, I'm bisexual, and I'm constantly called a girl, when I'm a guy. Although I don't like being called a girl, I like who I am as a guy.
i have been having the horrible mind confusion these last days, but what i learnt here is To be androgenous is an art, so I .. . I dont really find a shape for me, I guess that some day i will realize what i am, i dont feel square nor triangle, am i a dodecaedrus S:
I think I know there's always been something ''off'' in my mind about me being a girl and yet leaning to the boyish side... but now i think I'm getting closer to having a word for it. I really like what the woman says at 6:35 it make total sense. And I like the fact that with long hair I'm obviously a girl but with short hair more then most people mistake me for a boy.
I didn't understand that there was a difference between male or female when I was a child. I still don't understand why so much of society insists on separating the two.
@SullenStrange xP Sorry, I am physically male, but I've known a few female androgynes IRL (actually more than males), if it makes you feel any better. What's the big deal about genetic sex anyways? =P
@illuminationhighrock That's exactly what androgyny is - a gender identity. Some people mistakenly think it's an ideal that all sexually progressive people should aspire to for the sake of equality. That attitude pisses me off. I've been naturally androgynous my whole life and I've paid a price for being unique. I consider it a special destiny that most people will never be able to experience. I believe that the future will belong to us androgynous people who will bring on a new era of rule.
@220Adrians Actually there are two types of androgyny, physical and psychological. Those that look androgynous or are intersex fall under physical androgyny. Those who's gender identity is androgynous fall under psychological androgyny. But some have both physical and psychological androgyny. Androgynous fashion is a way to express psychological androgyny since the clothing one wears expresses one's gender identity.
@sandwichboys well, that's just complying to the intolerant. A better thing to do is to just say fuck it and embrace who he is. Why should he have to hide who he is in order to appease intolerant people?
i think androgyny is a very ambiguous term. you can be like these folks, who are in the middle of male and female, or just be for example a guy who has psycological features that are normally in a female, and still be androgynous.
For example, Pete Burns and Brett Anderson are both androgynoys, but in very very different ways,,,
And one more thing, drag queens are not androgynous, they're males who want to be females, they don't wanna be both.
@sonicadv27 No, dragqueens are feminine men who dress like caricatures of women in order to entertain. They only dress that way onstage. the biological males that want to be women are called male to female transsexuals.
I'm so happy i found this video. For the longest time i have been searching for my gender identity. i already knew that i was a gay male but i wasn't sure if i would ever become a transsexual. Now i know that i don't have to be a women to express my self. I can just be me.
they overlap a lot i think, but i consider myself androgynous simply for the way that i dress, but i feel that i am very much female. i always thought genderqueer meant you were not totally female and not totally male. i didn't know that androgyny fit into that as well (other than just looks)
I don't think he's EFFFEMINATE, which to me is an annoying thing, but simply female-like.
I'm a slightly androgenous girl, not as much as he's an androgenous guy, but I retain the MODERATION of the guy/ girl stereotypes.
It might sound very harsh and judgemental and that's not the way I mean it so please ppl don't be offended, but I can't help seeing an androgenous boy as a non-brutal person, and an androgenous girl as a non-slutty one.
I have been mistaken for a boy on many occassions but I always saw myself as a girl and I wanted the barbi doll with the pink dress. It got worse as I grew up. Girls whistled at me when I was 12. I did not like that attention. In University, one very Christian professor hinted that I was a boy pretending to be female and she was very rude and disapproving to me. There is prejudice if you don't meet the female stereotype (from some people, from a lot of people).
I think that androgyny will be apart of human evolution in the next 10 to 20 years, not something that characterizes a person's sexual interests, but something that represents who they are in a deeper sense.
I sugest you read some more history. Androgyny is nothing new. It has been around for thousands of years all over the world. There has ALWAYS been a full spectrum from extremely feminine to extremely masculine in both genders.
I never said it was "something new", I just think it will continue as it has and perhaps someday be a part of human culture on a MUCH greater scale(more than it ever was), as by way of a much needed shift in human consciousness.
your wording sugested you believed this to be a new development. There is strong evidence to sugest that we are all simply more aware of this in humanity due to the availability of knowledge to a greater number of people. We see it on Cable TV and on the internet. I never saw any of this as a child or a teenager because neither cable tv nor internet existed at that time but I have since learned it is very obvious now. People are more accepting of androgeny now so it is more open.
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It's strange, perhaps it's just the latest comments but to me it seems people are far more willing to accept this then gay marriage or just general homosexuality.( just judging by comments, not the best thing to judge by, I know but still)
It's odd you can transcend gender, or act out both genders. Acting masculine is harder to describe because you can be someone like Jim Carey and not act very masculine. You can also act like Janine Geraffalo and not act very feminine.
This video was really great. It's good to see people who are choosing to define themselves even if that means steping outside of social convention. I'm especially impressed with P.J, the skateboarder, who seems really young to have come to such a mature understanding of himself and has the courage to speak out about it.
not very confusing i don't know why people don't understand this , they arn't drag queens , they arn't gay , they are just themselves expressing themselves through how they look. Also that guy at the end was amazing his lips hardly moved but he said so much! =O
Androgyny, transgender,too many labels they are different right? and isn't in a different class eg. bisexual or homosexual,or do those labels not apply im so confused ppl just seem to morph all the time always something new
Well, androgyny can come under the general umbrella term of transgender, so they are not necessarily contradictory; though maybe it's not such a good fit, as androgynes are by definition not "crossing" from one thing to another as "trans" can suggest. However "trans" can also mean "beyond", so that would make more sense
Humm, while I personally don't like that style of dress, I still think andrgyny is cool. Because it dares to ask what really defines a person, his or her gender,or who he/she is on the inside. So much of what people see as male or female is just sterotypes. When it really comes down to it the only thing that REALLY defines a person as a man or woman is rather they have a penis or breasts. Everything else is not really set in stone.
I agree with you but I really did not choose to be androgynous. I did not set out to be who I am. I just am who I am and I don't fit the stereotype that is for sure. Some people have been very cruel and they attack anything that is different. Others look at you and not at your gender and see the person first. Those are the best people.
I think the theme of the video, though, is that those clerical reasons are null and are limiting people from embracing their true selves. There are plenty of ways to identify someone without needing to know what genitals they have. There's no real reason to have separated restrooms other than social taboo.
Personally, I couldn't care less on a "judgment" plane. And I agree the segregated bathrooms are a taboo. But a lot of things are and one must deal with it in life.
If I was a Boss, and I had hired an androgynous worker, I wouldn't want any other workers becoming alienated. If the Angy was biologically a male, but kept going into the female's bathroom, and it upset them, then obviously there'd be more reason to confine him to a male bathroom.
I'm aware of that; I like that you're tolerant and able to have an intelligent conversation. That's incredibly rare on YouTube.
Anyway, if the International Bill of Gender Rights ever gets passed it would be illegal to discriminate in the way you described above. As it is now, that's probably exactly how it works, and most transgendered people have to conform to those rules.
Still, that doesn't force you, as an individual, to call a transgendered person by the gender they were born to.
Now, if a law as such was passed, then I could dispense with the woman's alienation, tell her it's the law, and the door's there if you don't like it.
But until that happens, I'd rather get used to having to conform to the law as of now.
What I really dislike, is those who have a victim complex, and have latched onto the sexuality like bisexual, etc. as a way to make their life seem more agonizing, you know? Like as if it's the "in" thing to be a lesbian for some.
It's one thing to say, "Sorry, you can't use the women's bathroom; you're making people uncomfortable." and another to say, "Sorry, but in a casual situation I refuse to call you a woman despite the fact that you identify as one."
I agree with victim complexes. And it's true that there's a trend, especially with teenagers and 20-something women, of saying they're bisexual just to be edgy. It's annoying in the best case scenario.
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Why should the majority have to yield to the minority? This is such a bs concept. You are in a society where you must act in certain ways or else you are isolated and removed from that society. This is the way it has always worked and will work. Who gives a shit if .0001% of the population gets offended because they cause use the bathroom not designated for them.
I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Yeilding to the minority? No one's asking for yeilding. There's a huge difference between asking for a lack of discrimination and special rights.
People kill themselves because they're so miserable about not being able to conform to society and its idiotic taboos. I think that's reason enough to "give a shit" about ".0001% of the population".
why should biological gender be so important? Your comment is not much different from saying "it's their race, that's how I'd classify them". Arguably, whether you are XY or XX or have a penis or vagina is not so much more important as a marker of who you are as a person than how much melanin you have in your skin
Yeah, the first guy isnt so bad.
twochicks23 1 week ago
I'm in love with the long haired dude.. O:
MidnightOkami 2 months ago
there was nothing androgynous about the first guy. not to sound like a hater but he is obiously a dude.
Josh117ish 3 months ago 4
so me and my boyfriend are both Androgynous. it all make a grate amount of sense to me now. wish i would have non what it meant earlier in my life.
rozeAngel1 4 months ago
Very inspiring video..!
yggra31 4 months ago
so they simply dont see any diffrence between male and female or what?
tell me some1 pls
Eistroll0Wie0 5 months ago
@Eistroll0Wie0 There is a female and male side to any woman and man.
You are just both..you might be a female with masculine way of life/dressing, or a male with feminine way of life/dressing, without defining yourself as a male or female..
You just simply are both, like you can be a male now and in an hour be wearing make up feeling like a female..
lalouse432 5 months ago
@Eistroll0Wie0 Really, it's mostly the lack of wanting to be one gender or another (There's a difference between gender and sex. Sex is what they put on your birth certificate; gender is how you feel. Most people identify with the same gender and sex, but some don't. It's not that you don't KNOW the difference in your own/other people's sexes and genders, it's more that you don't *want* the difference in your own gender. Hope that answered your question, dear! :)
KairiSoraRiku35 5 months ago
Doesn't look like a girl AT ALL.
ichbineincoolcat 6 months ago
@ichbineincoolcat I'd ask who you were referring to, but ultimately, it doesn't matter... Did you watch this video on mute or something?
RoofieOnTheRocks 5 months ago
@RoofieOnTheRocks I'm talking about the kid with the spider bites.
ichbineincoolcat 5 months ago
one thing i notice is that many genetic males use lots of paint (makeup) and other industrial foistments (body-warping clothes) to make themselves look female. I don't have a problem with that, of course, but it does stick in my craw a bit while trying to swallow the idea that they feel that they have both genders in them in sufficient strength that each needs to be expressed outwardly. IOW, they can't pull off looking like a "girl" without all the crap that corporate media have pushed on women.
d3ejmz 6 months ago
Androgyny = balance!!
abby495 7 months ago 19
I love different people!!! I found 'normal' people quite boring sometimes.. :p
devolutionone 8 months ago 3
@devolutionone lol "normal"
smileyg333 7 months ago
This is great. I think I first saw this about two years ago. This video explains androgyny very well. It explained it to me, actually. And now I actually define as an androgyne.
everythinginbetweenX 8 months ago 5
sick
VendPrekmurec 9 months ago
I don't like the rhetoric that androgyny is the ideal. There seems to be a building anti-hetero movement that thinks gender is souly socially constructed. I disagree with this premise but do agree that SOME people are androgynous and some people hold to their specific sexual preference. I am straight and this is natural for ME. If your gay thats natural for you and if your both or your not even interested in sex thats perfectly fine. We need to stop saying one is better then the other.
chadpratch 9 months ago
@chadpratch Not better than other, but what is manly or feminine is mostly a cultural thing. Even though most women want to attract men that doesn't mean they want to achieve it by trying to make thems look pretty. And things like male or female wear is just rubbish (maybe with the exception of bra). Men have always worn dresses, but nowadays it's seen as a girly thing to do; but they are comfortable and easy to make. It would be good if we could just forget about g restrictions and just liv
albuorkka 8 months ago
amazing ide do all of them
mluvese 9 months ago
:25 Fail!
Hicky89 10 months ago
I feel the same I m a boy attracted by girl, but since I m born I want to be like a girl, it s a strange feeling that people can' t understand ! it s so sad ...
clem13510 10 months ago
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looks like a bunch of fags to me
xMikePADDLEx94 10 months ago
Does anyone know who sings that song starting at 1:50? "Put on your lipstick boy", I like that sound, I'd love to find it and buy it.
Sashadigsweed 11 months ago
I think i feel in luv with the guy with the orangish red hair the fashion designer omg hot hot hot nd i am a lesbian lover lol i luv fashionable men
bustitwydeopen365 11 months ago
im express myself on the more masculine side if i wear sumthing that is 2 femmy i have 2 take it off i get upset nd i jus dont feel like doin anything i am bio female tho thats the thing i do luv women so when ppl say if ur gay its complicated since i never felt like a woman more of a man of wat i have seen wat men/women suppose 2 act like nd wat is a man or woman nd wat r they suppose 2 feel like anyway but i do agree w / the lady i will have to play around with this androgyny thing more
bustitwydeopen365 11 months ago
When someone asked my why I wore black nail polish and black lipstick, I said that pink was too feminine for me. That shut them up.
prschuster 1 year ago 3
The guy with the long hair does NOT look like a girl at all, just looks like a rocker.
DylanGuitar148 1 year ago
Never knew it wasn't such a strange thing to want to be androgynous. I've always kind of been struggling with what I am, until recently.
I considered FTM, but the idea of the surgeries and hormones and actually wanting to /become/ a man turned me off. Then I realized a month ago that I could just be androgynous, and now I realize there are other people already doing the same thing.
Ebillan 1 year ago
@Ebillan thats great i feel the same way but more of a masculine andro for me imma play with that a little
bustitwydeopen365 11 months ago
@Ebillan I spent a while thinking I might be MTF too, and it really sucked. We're taught from childhood that there are only boys and girls, but we're proof that isn't true, you know?
evercharmer 11 months ago
Vajazz
WTFisvF 1 year ago
The guy with the long brown is so cute :D, I feel the same way, I'm bisexual, and I'm constantly called a girl, when I'm a guy. Although I don't like being called a girl, I like who I am as a guy.
Saylemore 1 year ago
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pascha11eleven 1 year ago
i have been having the horrible mind confusion these last days, but what i learnt here is To be androgenous is an art, so I .. . I dont really find a shape for me, I guess that some day i will realize what i am, i dont feel square nor triangle, am i a dodecaedrus S:
nightmarelab 1 year ago
I think I know there's always been something ''off'' in my mind about me being a girl and yet leaning to the boyish side... but now i think I'm getting closer to having a word for it. I really like what the woman says at 6:35 it make total sense. And I like the fact that with long hair I'm obviously a girl but with short hair more then most people mistake me for a boy.
Mimibie 1 year ago
There are no boundaries. Blur, then erase all lines, gender or otherwise. Be who you are without limits.
OriginalMishima 1 year ago
This video comforts me. It reminds me that I don't have to be trans or ambi, gay, bi or anything for people to take me seriously. I can just be me.
Azulmine 1 year ago 30
Most of the americans look like that LOL, middle east guys are the perfect example of a guy
ticosexy22 1 year ago
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these people should be executed
mybabe2023 1 year ago
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@mybabe2023 No. People like you should be executed.
OriginalMishima 1 year ago
that skater guy just looks like a guy to me..
joeblowthehot 1 year ago 3
@joeblowthehot
its more about how he feels. he doesn't feel male or female, these terms cannot accurately describe his identity.
TsukinAMV 1 year ago
that skater guy just looks like aguy to me..
joeblowthehot 1 year ago
ITS NOT OK TO BE FAT! Dont dance! RUN!
frantahouska 1 year ago
I didn't understand that there was a difference between male or female when I was a child. I still don't understand why so much of society insists on separating the two.
Azulmine 1 year ago
Epic orange hair man with badass voice.
IxSaltinexl 1 year ago
stefan looks like he's ronald mcdonalds kid
djdragonhalf 1 year ago
7:27 beautiful face
Jeremiah5063 1 year ago
You know who else is androgynous......satan that is all lol (seriously look it up lol)
7thSwell 1 year ago
@7thSwell WTF...
niceprince 5 months ago
@niceprince That wasn't me. A friend used my account and posted this comment. Please excuse it -_____-
7thSwell 5 months ago
@SullenStrange xP Sorry, I am physically male, but I've known a few female androgynes IRL (actually more than males), if it makes you feel any better. What's the big deal about genetic sex anyways? =P
ZizooMoDaI 1 year ago
I guess I'm androgynous I never knew but Im not gay I just prefer to be alone.
Guitarisma 1 year ago
@Guitarisma That's asexual, not androgynous.
TheSoSoAgnostic 1 year ago
The guy with long hair shouldn't be called Androgynist! He looks like a guy! like any teen boy! but Im very interested in this!
220Adrians 1 year ago
@220Adrians Androgyny has to do with one's gender identity
illuminationhighrock 1 year ago
@illuminationhighrock That's exactly what androgyny is - a gender identity. Some people mistakenly think it's an ideal that all sexually progressive people should aspire to for the sake of equality. That attitude pisses me off. I've been naturally androgynous my whole life and I've paid a price for being unique. I consider it a special destiny that most people will never be able to experience. I believe that the future will belong to us androgynous people who will bring on a new era of rule.
prschuster 1 year ago
@220Adrians Actually there are two types of androgyny, physical and psychological. Those that look androgynous or are intersex fall under physical androgyny. Those who's gender identity is androgynous fall under psychological androgyny. But some have both physical and psychological androgyny. Androgynous fashion is a way to express psychological androgyny since the clothing one wears expresses one's gender identity.
illuminationhighrock 1 year ago
@220Adrians
Androgyny can be about your look or about your psychological make-up; if the skater seems themself as androgyne, then they are
orlando098 1 year ago
The will look like a boy if They cut the hair and dont make up
sandwichboys 1 year ago
@sandwichboys So males aren't allowed to have long hair w/o being girly? And females can't have short hair w/o being boyish?
bonifagurl 1 year ago 4
@bonifagurl No No , for the boy with the hair , he dont look like a girl at all
imagine without hair ,if he wants to avoid problems he can have a haircut ,
that's my point of view
and no one in this video is androgynous
they dont know the meaning of this word
sandwichboys 1 year ago
@sandwichboys Apparantly, you don't.
bonifagurl 1 year ago
@bonifagurl are a youtube judge or something ? or you want to fight ?
im not free for this !!
ITS MY POINT OF VIEEEW ! if you understand
sandwichboys 1 year ago
@sandwichboys You can't have a "point of view" on the defination of a word.
bonifagurl 1 year ago
@sandwichboys well, that's just complying to the intolerant. A better thing to do is to just say fuck it and embrace who he is. Why should he have to hide who he is in order to appease intolerant people?
xXFlockofGriffinsXx 1 year ago
what was the title of the book the read head dude (I think) said?
XxkarazuxX 1 year ago
i am not female i am not male i am human and i can feel however i want without the approval of others
booshytushy 1 year ago
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bunch of fag queers
itinkgirlzhot12 1 year ago
i think androgyny is a very ambiguous term. you can be like these folks, who are in the middle of male and female, or just be for example a guy who has psycological features that are normally in a female, and still be androgynous.
For example, Pete Burns and Brett Anderson are both androgynoys, but in very very different ways,,,
And one more thing, drag queens are not androgynous, they're males who want to be females, they don't wanna be both.
sonicadv27 1 year ago
@sonicadv27 No, dragqueens are feminine men who dress like caricatures of women in order to entertain. They only dress that way onstage. the biological males that want to be women are called male to female transsexuals.
illuminationhighrock 1 year ago
@illuminationhighrock what i meant is that dragqueens are men who want to be like womem ONSTAGE. i forgot to mention that part.
sonicadv27 1 year ago
@sonicadv27 Thats transgender, Drag Queens are males who like feminine clothing/products but are still male.
3046718pancakemix 1 year ago
@3046718pancakemix again, i said ON STAGE Drag Queens do behave or try to look like women on stage..
sonicadv27 1 year ago
"Put on your lipstick, boy..."
Does anyone know what song that is?
ZhouFantastic 1 year ago
I'm so happy i found this video. For the longest time i have been searching for my gender identity. i already knew that i was a gay male but i wasn't sure if i would ever become a transsexual. Now i know that i don't have to be a women to express my self. I can just be me.
GothicMunky101 1 year ago
i feel like these folks are more genderqueer than they are just merely androgynous?
lilhonda9821 1 year ago 2
Are they kind of the same thing? I'm... both, and I just fit it under the umbrella of being genderqueer.
Niennis 1 year ago
they overlap a lot i think, but i consider myself androgynous simply for the way that i dress, but i feel that i am very much female. i always thought genderqueer meant you were not totally female and not totally male. i didn't know that androgyny fit into that as well (other than just looks)
lilhonda9821 1 year ago
@lilhonda9821
genderqueer and androgynous are pretty much synonyms - what do you mean by saying these people are more genderqueer than androgynous?
orlando098 1 year ago
he looks like a normal metal head
Metatheist 1 year ago 4
do you guys think for a more perfect androgyne look a guy can take hormone pills?
fabian100e 2 years ago
@fabian100e
yes i think that, but becarfull with them, its not always good for your helth
i been on hormones 2 months now self medicated
but i have started to see doctors about this becuse i dont want risk helth problems
bigev4u 2 years ago
Big thank you for this answer and the advices. I will use them but see a doctor as a precaution.
fabian100e 2 years ago
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bigev4u 2 years ago
no dont do that
FIGHTFANNERD3 2 years ago
Love love love the skaterboy.
I don't think he's EFFFEMINATE, which to me is an annoying thing, but simply female-like.
I'm a slightly androgenous girl, not as much as he's an androgenous guy, but I retain the MODERATION of the guy/ girl stereotypes.
It might sound very harsh and judgemental and that's not the way I mean it so please ppl don't be offended, but I can't help seeing an androgenous boy as a non-brutal person, and an androgenous girl as a non-slutty one.
mariekitu 2 years ago
the guy at 1:10 is hot ;)
MarvelousMedicine 2 years ago 2
I have been mistaken for a boy on many occassions but I always saw myself as a girl and I wanted the barbi doll with the pink dress. It got worse as I grew up. Girls whistled at me when I was 12. I did not like that attention. In University, one very Christian professor hinted that I was a boy pretending to be female and she was very rude and disapproving to me. There is prejudice if you don't meet the female stereotype (from some people, from a lot of people).
Emilydogcat 2 years ago 5
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Emilydogcat 2 years ago
Thee all Genderqueer..They don't fit as boy or girls in there head they dont indeify as eaitehr maybe none or both..and are against gender norms.
shinobiquinn 2 years ago
androgyny is beautiful! emo guys, and girls who look like wynona rider in Alien resurrection, very beautiful :)
neutrino78x 2 years ago
I think that androgyny will be apart of human evolution in the next 10 to 20 years, not something that characterizes a person's sexual interests, but something that represents who they are in a deeper sense.
AcidCakes 2 years ago 2
I sugest you read some more history. Androgyny is nothing new. It has been around for thousands of years all over the world. There has ALWAYS been a full spectrum from extremely feminine to extremely masculine in both genders.
shatros 2 years ago
I never said it was "something new", I just think it will continue as it has and perhaps someday be a part of human culture on a MUCH greater scale(more than it ever was), as by way of a much needed shift in human consciousness.
AcidCakes 2 years ago
your wording sugested you believed this to be a new development. There is strong evidence to sugest that we are all simply more aware of this in humanity due to the availability of knowledge to a greater number of people. We see it on Cable TV and on the internet. I never saw any of this as a child or a teenager because neither cable tv nor internet existed at that time but I have since learned it is very obvious now. People are more accepting of androgeny now so it is more open.
shatros 2 years ago
In real life, I express myself as the sex I was born with. But with the anonmity of the internet, I can express both genders within me.
OriginalNightWarrior 2 years ago 39
me too
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Psycho888999 1 year ago
@OriginalNightWarrior nigger
xMikePADDLEx94 10 months ago
@OriginalNightWarrior Anonmity?
smileyg333 7 months ago
I've actually been thinking of showing this to my mother...but how well she'd take it i wouldn't know (: Are there more videos like this?
qplkmnz 2 years ago 3
It's strange, perhaps it's just the latest comments but to me it seems people are far more willing to accept this then gay marriage or just general homosexuality.( just judging by comments, not the best thing to judge by, I know but still)
Gef88 2 years ago
excellent video
specil 2 years ago 2
my point is your relationships should be original enough to able to transcend gender roles.
dh234 2 years ago 4
It's odd you can transcend gender, or act out both genders. Acting masculine is harder to describe because you can be someone like Jim Carey and not act very masculine. You can also act like Janine Geraffalo and not act very feminine.
dh234 2 years ago
I'd marry any man what's brave enough to wear that lavender stiletto.
giftdistel 2 years ago 50
I know two men who'd wear those shoes without even being asked.
bloobec 2 years ago 3
This video was really great. It's good to see people who are choosing to define themselves even if that means steping outside of social convention. I'm especially impressed with P.J, the skateboarder, who seems really young to have come to such a mature understanding of himself and has the courage to speak out about it.
LyricalLife 3 years ago 2
not very confusing i don't know why people don't understand this , they arn't drag queens , they arn't gay , they are just themselves expressing themselves through how they look. Also that guy at the end was amazing his lips hardly moved but he said so much! =O
pipuk3 3 years ago 6
amen... freedom of expression is a right but not a privilege. anyone who believes otherwise or questions it is a grade c moron.
gender segregation is becoming a real epidemic in western society.
collegeguy2009 2 years ago 3
Androgyny, transgender,too many labels they are different right? and isn't in a different class eg. bisexual or homosexual,or do those labels not apply im so confused ppl just seem to morph all the time always something new
negkreyol21 3 years ago
Androgynous, transgender, bisexual and homosexual are all very different terms. :)
Daenyris 3 years ago 3
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Well, androgyny can come under the general umbrella term of transgender, so they are not necessarily contradictory; though maybe it's not such a good fit, as androgynes are by definition not "crossing" from one thing to another as "trans" can suggest. However "trans" can also mean "beyond", so that would make more sense
orlando098 1 year ago
Humm, while I personally don't like that style of dress, I still think andrgyny is cool. Because it dares to ask what really defines a person, his or her gender,or who he/she is on the inside. So much of what people see as male or female is just sterotypes. When it really comes down to it the only thing that REALLY defines a person as a man or woman is rather they have a penis or breasts. Everything else is not really set in stone.
Foxfairy5 3 years ago 6
I agree with you but I really did not choose to be androgynous. I did not set out to be who I am. I just am who I am and I don't fit the stereotype that is for sure. Some people have been very cruel and they attack anything that is different. Others look at you and not at your gender and see the person first. Those are the best people.
Emilydogcat 2 years ago 4
It's their biological gender, that's how I'd classify them. Not by their own arbitrated choice.
synchangel 3 years ago
Why?
Daenyris 3 years ago
Less confusing. For clerical reasons. Mens room, or Ladies room. Pick one.
On registration cards, Licenses.
Not to be insensitive or anything, but fluctuating like that makes accountability neigh-impossible.
synchangel 3 years ago
I think the theme of the video, though, is that those clerical reasons are null and are limiting people from embracing their true selves. There are plenty of ways to identify someone without needing to know what genitals they have. There's no real reason to have separated restrooms other than social taboo.
Daenyris 3 years ago
Personally, I couldn't care less on a "judgment" plane. And I agree the segregated bathrooms are a taboo. But a lot of things are and one must deal with it in life.
If I was a Boss, and I had hired an androgynous worker, I wouldn't want any other workers becoming alienated. If the Angy was biologically a male, but kept going into the female's bathroom, and it upset them, then obviously there'd be more reason to confine him to a male bathroom.
synchangel 3 years ago
I'm aware of that; I like that you're tolerant and able to have an intelligent conversation. That's incredibly rare on YouTube.
Anyway, if the International Bill of Gender Rights ever gets passed it would be illegal to discriminate in the way you described above. As it is now, that's probably exactly how it works, and most transgendered people have to conform to those rules.
Still, that doesn't force you, as an individual, to call a transgendered person by the gender they were born to.
Daenyris 3 years ago
Well, compliment accepted.
Now, if a law as such was passed, then I could dispense with the woman's alienation, tell her it's the law, and the door's there if you don't like it.
But until that happens, I'd rather get used to having to conform to the law as of now.
What I really dislike, is those who have a victim complex, and have latched onto the sexuality like bisexual, etc. as a way to make their life seem more agonizing, you know? Like as if it's the "in" thing to be a lesbian for some.
synchangel 3 years ago
It's one thing to say, "Sorry, you can't use the women's bathroom; you're making people uncomfortable." and another to say, "Sorry, but in a casual situation I refuse to call you a woman despite the fact that you identify as one."
I agree with victim complexes. And it's true that there's a trend, especially with teenagers and 20-something women, of saying they're bisexual just to be edgy. It's annoying in the best case scenario.
Daenyris 3 years ago
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Why should the majority have to yield to the minority? This is such a bs concept. You are in a society where you must act in certain ways or else you are isolated and removed from that society. This is the way it has always worked and will work. Who gives a shit if .0001% of the population gets offended because they cause use the bathroom not designated for them.
Dresden718 3 years ago
I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Yeilding to the minority? No one's asking for yeilding. There's a huge difference between asking for a lack of discrimination and special rights.
People kill themselves because they're so miserable about not being able to conform to society and its idiotic taboos. I think that's reason enough to "give a shit" about ".0001% of the population".
It's called compassion. Look it up.
Daenyris 3 years ago 6
@synchangel
It would solve the problem if we just have unisex bathrooms; I don't see why we have to pee in sex segregated areas anyway
orlando098 1 year ago
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pascha11eleven 1 year ago
@synchangel
why should biological gender be so important? Your comment is not much different from saying "it's their race, that's how I'd classify them". Arguably, whether you are XY or XX or have a penis or vagina is not so much more important as a marker of who you are as a person than how much melanin you have in your skin
orlando098 1 year ago
who cares if they are male or female but why would anyone wear those clothes or have their hair like that? they look horrible.
KrykoStorm 3 years ago
Agreed. Androgyny is no excuse for tacky style.
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