December 25th - Is it the Real Birthday of Jesus the Messiah?

[mysofta]

To BritishSnail....Are you saying that those of us who have a deeper understanding of the pagan holidays vs. God's Appointed Times are not "yet come to 'faith'? Seems to me that that statement alone doesn't make much sense...Rather, that those of us who are in obedience to His Word ARE KEEPING the faith-and deliberately- by the very action you see we are taking in preserving that truth. HIS appointed times are called mo'adim *which, by the way, sir...shows you haven't done your homework.

[Cassielam11]

I already knew about this from following the Jewish calandar and the holidays, and also because the birth happened during the end of the roman fiscal year and it was tax time. So not only were they on their way to celebrate Sukkoth, but also they had to be taxed. So I definitely agree, it was around the middle of September. We can't pinpoint the exact date, and that is ok by me. Imagine if we did pinpoint it? What kind of consumer holiday would come of it? I feel it stays a holy day not knowing.

[IronyChild]

Its widely known that Jesus' birthday was not actually December 25. December 25th is the ancient pagan holiday of sol invictus, Unconquered Sun, coinciding with the winter solistice. It is also the day Mithras died - in a rock tomb, and resurrected after three days, mind you. And the birthdays of Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. ^^

[ChristianCurrent]

i do know why he celebrated it on the 25th of december.over the summer i visited rome,and discovered that one of their favorite things to do with the peganistic buildings and holidays was to impose irony.it was their way of triumphing over the large amount of time when rome was peganistic.i saw a roman temple with a sacrificial alter and everything,and they turned it into a church.a house of God.that was their way to saying"VICTORY".it's the same with holidays.it was purposefully done ironically

[1954phyllis]

Great video.

[PointBlankMinistry]

Awesome! :)

[askg7]

Wait yea, how do you know Luke 1 is speaking about the 8th lot and not the 32nd?

[askg7]

That would put his birthday closer to March/April (Nisan)

[TravelWithMusic]

Great...Christ is born!

Merry Christmas!

[alienpatentoffice]

Wow dear brother, that was very informative for me. Thank you so much. I will fav this so I could pull it out and share to others in the future. Lol. I dont know if I should wish you a Merry Christmas now he he he But more importantly, how can we correct this? It is wrong to celebrate christmas at this month then. This is a big mess isnt it? Never too late to celebrate it at the right month. We should start celebrating christmas at the right month. Much agape

[MultiArchangel]

@alienpatentoffice - I think I may do a video about whether we should celebrate Christmas as well. Something small. But I am not sure if I will. I will think about it. I am glad you found it informative, unlike the person below who tried to attack because I did it. Vipers....I swear.

[alienpatentoffice]

@MultiArchangel have been sharing it to close friends and close friend on youtube. They are as equally shock as i am. Again thank you for making the video. Please don take it down ever. Happy New Year

[MultiArchangel]

@alienpatentoffice - No problem.

[JellayToasT]

@MultiArchangel no, even if christmas was a christian holiday, its been corrupted to the highest extent.

[TheTaberLion]

@alienpatentoffice-Celebration of the pagan Catholicism holiday mass-of-Christ is not commanded. Celebrating birthdays was and is a pagan practice that Jesus never nor His followers observed. Celebrating someones birth date wasn't a practice of Israel tribes. Celebrating birthdays was the pagan Roman tradition that ruled over Israel/Jerusalem.

Satan's false doctrine of Catholicism tried to destroy God's calendar with hopes no one would remember the Holy Days commanded to be observed FOREVER.

[anaisamaris]

Good vid. Of course this is not new info-there r plenty of vids out here and over the internet giving Christ a most deserved truthful birth date. But people have eyes n dont want to see n ears n dont want to hear. Tradition and religion over Truth. God have mercy on us! Keep preaching brother, since us God's children dont read the Bible like we should anyways...

[BritishSnail]

"Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it."

Mark 10:15

[BritishSnail]

This vide is pathetic. Only those who are yet to come to 'faith' are concerned with such things. I've seen it a hundred times in the faithless. The importance is in the unification of the faith and the unification of the body of Christ. Those who cause division are those who are shut out from faith and those who are misguided by the antiChrist. They likely have never posessed any real faith, sadly and the body of Christ continues to pray for such lost souls. In Your Mercy Lord. Amen

[MultiArchangel]

@BritishSnail - I could care less what you think about my video. If you do not like it, then you do not have to watch it. How many times must I say that to trolls like you. I have no time for people like you with their judgmentalism, and ego. I did this video because I thought it would be educational. It was not done to cause division. You don't even know what you are talking about. Buzz off you nobody.

[aek21gangsta]

PERFECT VIDEO!!!

[blt9]

Thank you so much for sharing this.

May God keep you in his heart always!

God bless :)

[deezynar]

I think you do a good job figuring out the most likely period for Yashua's birth.

I'm not as certain about the motive you ascribe to the Romans for making December 25th the official birthday. Do you have historic documentation to back that up?

[MultiArchangel]

@deezynar - There is really no need for documentation from anyone to be quite truthful. The Roman Empire was mostly pagan many centuries ago, and pagans like to practice something called "syncretism." You add the beliefs of others, then mix them with your own. It just seems like common sense to me. Why else would you intentionally place Jesus' birthday on a date He was not born? On a date that just happens to be one of pagan celebration?

[deezynar]

@MultiArchangel

I was told that since the Roman Christians didn't know the actual date they decided to "overwrite" the existing pagan holiday w/ a Christian one. It worked. I don't know anything about Mithras & nobody I know does either.

I'd be thrilled if folks all over the world were whooping it up on my birthday every year for a couple millenia. That is I'd be thrilled until I found out they were all celebrating someone else's birth! I don't see a big victory for Mithras here.

[MultiArchangel]

@deezynar - We do some some things about Mithra actually. Most of our information on him comes from artwork I believe. I find it funny, that the Romans did not know His birthday, when all that is needed is a bible and some research as I attempted to display here. I still find it funny that out of any day of the year, they choose that particular day as His birthday, but that is just me.

[MultiArchangel]

@aTrueHybrid - Yes, I love ppsimmons' videos. He has some interesting Christmas videos as well. He does good work in this area. He has a very educational and informative channel that I visit often.

[iluvugo]

In my calculations you are just off one month. John the Baptist would have been born at the end of the Hebrew Year which would place him either late March early April and would put his birth approximately Late September or early October. Lining this up more with the time that the taxes and censes would be imposed on the Jews by Roman.

[MultiArchangel]

@iluvugo - Actually the Hebrew calendar's last month would be February. I said in the video that he was born either March or February. March is the first month on the Hebrew calendar and it is known as Nisan. Their calendar starts in the spring. I placed March and February side by side as two possible months he may have been born.

[AmericAWordsMatter]

Good presentation! GOD; IS. His Son, Christ was born in the Spring. Nimrod (N) was born Dec 25th, GREEN DAY-EVERGREEN-GREEN[Gr332]. Nature (N) ISIS (IS IS). NN. December 25th,(Santa Claus),(Satan Claws). Duplicity & Deception. Now, find out the DEEPEST DARKEST SECRET of the WESTERN HEMISPHERE! Stop supporting EVIL! FIND OUT THE TRUTH! Perceive: Usurp, Subterfuge, Assimilate. WE have achieved WITH freedom, what NO other nation on earth has achieved. WE are NOT SEISIN(Possession,Property,Sla­ve).11

[Brucev7]

Oh I don't think that many think so. the word is it. Merry Christmas Jesus! Isa 9 Luk 2

[BreshiBaraElohim]

Mostly i am in agreement, just a couple of issues with the reasoning presented here, hopefully for edification.

1. Israel is pretty far south, so i am not sure it would be "too cold" for shepherds to watch their sheep, especially since they had little choice in the matter. It has always bothered me when people use this seemingly ad hoc reasoning. But you may be right.

[BreshiBaraElohim]

2. The census they were supposed to return to Bethlehem to be counted for, as well as other feasts, could all account for no room being in the in. I don't see the solid air tight case here with this argument. The research i have done, suggests Yeshua may have been born durring the High Holiday of Rosh Hashanah.

[MultiArchangel]

@BreshiBaraElohim - That is another possibility. I believe the census may have taken place possibly around the same time as the feast, This is why I placed August - September as the 2 possible months.

[jakethesnakerobertz1]

@MultiArchangel so what day was he born

[MultiArchangel]

@jakethesnakerobertz1 - I could not tell you. The bible never gives us a specific day. The point of the video was not meant to give the viewer the specific day, but rather to narrow down the possible two months that He may have been born in. I cannot give a particular day, though a person below me thinks he knows the actual day. I believe it was close to Tishri 15, which is around September, but an exact day is not possible to surmise.

[MultiArchangel]

@jakethesnakerobertz1 - theheat151 was the person I was referring to when I said that. He is below me in the comment section.

[BreshiBaraElohim]

3. Rosh Hashanah would fit in with your dates, and makes the most sense to me, as He is the Messiah, the Head of the Messianic Era (the New Year, as it were). We have entered the 8th day of Creation. I think in that regard it is unfortunate that we have lost our Judaic roots, but even if changing the worlds Calendar system from the Gregorian to the Hebrew seems impossible all is not lost.

[BreshiBaraElohim]

4. We still have Christmas at the end of our year--and if we consider it a long holiday as many do including New Year--we still can enjoy the Spirit of the Message. Blow your Shofar! Christ, the Messiah, is Born!

[MultiArchangel]

@BreshiBaraElohim - In no way was I attempting to judge those that celebrate the holiday. That is up to the individual brother. This video was just an attempt to try and narrow the possible months Jesus may have been born in. Yes, we can still enjoy the spirit of the message. (-:

[MultiArchangel]

@BreshiBaraElohim - Actually I think Israel can get pretty cold. Type in snow in Israel and see what you pull up. It has been known to snow in that area believe it or not. I was just as surprised are you.

[8167433]

From what I understand Jesus was conceived on December 25 and Born sometime September.

[MultiArchangel]

@8167433 - He was conceived November - December. Probably December. But it never says what day in December He was conceived.

[ForFREEDOM13]

Well i think its safe to say most if not all Christian say they dont beleive december 25th was Jesus' exact birthday but that date simply represents His birthday....this is really the greatest time of the year

[Mrpl778]

Right on bro, but it saddens me that so few of us want to believe the truth. I take comfort in the fact that Pastor Murray of the Sheperds chapel preaches the truth on this matter. To settle the idea of the birth being in the spring, which all together wrong because Tabernacle means to inhabit a body. A child can figure it out. Yet it saddens me that how many so called Christians are just will to go along with the Catholic Church on all of this.

[AtheistParodies]

Well I hope this stops all you Christians from hijacking our holiday! Bugger off to September then.

[MultiArchangel]

@AtheistParodies - Somehow I don't think so. 

[AtheistParodies]

@MultiArchangel

Well haven't you just pointed out very good reasons why Christians shouldn't celebrate the 25th of December?

[MultiArchangel]

@AtheistParodies - Christmas is a celebration of Jesus Christ. We should so, but when and how we do so is up to the individual. I would never attempt to argue with people over something along those lines.

[3232ting]

December will be too cold for the sheep and the shepherds to be out at night.

Gabriel appeared to Mary on the 6th month to announce that she had been conceived and going forward 9 months, Jesus was most like to have been born on the 3rd Hebrew month which is about July/August in the Gregorian calender.

During the Feast of Tabernacles, the shepherds are unlikely to be out as they also have to go for the 8 days of Feasts.

[MultiArchangel]

@3232ting - I agree with December being too cold. I found Tishri (September - October) to be the most likely date because the inn was full so it must have been during the Feast of Tabernacles. It is not possible for us to get an exact date, so I placed August side by side with September.

I believe that Jesus would have been born in either of those 2 months, though the initial point still remains. December would be far too late int he year. Thanks for your comment.

[07braves]

great job...and the whore keeps on being burned.

[MultiArchangel]

@07braves - The whore as in Roman Catholicism? lol Yes. Burn the whore.

[07braves]

@MultiArchangel  CORRECT!

[8Anya8]

As valiant an effort this was Multiangel it is not the truth.

Yah'shuah was not born in the fall.

I am also working on a video that points to the actual day he came into this world.

I wil send it to you when it is finished.

Blessed be the Holy One of Israel~

[MultiArchangel]

@8Anya8 - Well I have heard some mention that it may have been during the spring, so I was expecting someone to disagree with me on this point. The point is that He was most certainly not born during December.

[gloryboundkev]

Excellent video. Great research. ( =

[pivotchampion]

Excellent research my friend. Truely magnificent.

By the way, I saw that you had many pictures in the background that came from some movie about the birth of Jesus. I know I've seen the movie, but what was it called? Thanks man, nice work!

[MultiArchangel]

@pivotchampion - The Nativity Story.

[pivotchampion]

@MultiArchangel That's it! Thank you so much.

[MultiArchangel]

@pivotchampion - No problem.

[checaroo]

Multi! good to have you back, i was just wondering what you were up to :)

[MultiArchangel]

@checaroo - lol Thanks.

[christineshires]

This is one of the best videos with this information, biblical and historical. Praise God! Thank you for sharing!

[ImpurFektFaith]

Good video Multi..really interesting bro :)

[MultiArchangel]

@ImpurFektFaith - Thanks. I felt I had to do it. We are nearing that time of year, so it must be done. Furthermore I can use this for when the pagans tell me that Jesus is Mithra or some nonsense like that. They like to say Jesus was born on December 25th like Mithra was, but this video smashes that claim to pieces.

[Ads4Christ]

Very well done my friend! Thanks for the research and presentation!

[MultiArchangel]

@Ads4Christ - No problem brother.

[leviMichealathan]

gud video!

[visibledark]

@archeng123 Yes

[NephilimFree]

Very interesting. Some sources say He was born in spring.

[MultiArchangel]

@NephilimFree - I have heard this too, though it seems Tishri (September) is a much more likely date to me.

[ThickShades1]

yup, exactly. faved. :)

[POC777]

I enjoyed this teaching on WHAT day was Jesus birth. Now I have some material to share with my Catholic co-workers.

God bless you!

[MultiArchangel]

@POC777 - Please do. They should be made aware.

[POC777]

@MultiArchangel

About 99% in Spanish so its difficult for me to translate it. But with the LORD God nothing is hard or impossible. Stay in prayer for the salvation of those people and pray for me so the LORD will use me in their lives effectively.

[MultiArchangel]

@POC777 - Me parece que tu puedes habla basta inglesh para entender el video. Tu sabes sus cosas hermano. lol I think you will be fine. (=

[POC777]

@MultiArchangel

There's another thing. I grew up in a Catholic home and was taught to keep the family's tradition. For example, two weeks before Christmas will give offerings to Mary like roses..Then I celebrated Jesus birth not knowing it wasn't on Dec 25th.

Ignorance might be the problem!

We got to understand where these people come from and use it as a spring board to tell them why Jesus Christ was born.

[MultiArchangel]

@POC777 - I see. I agree. Though I doubt some of these Catholics will listen to what we have to say on the matter.

[blackshadowsnoopy]

Excellent coverage ! I believe the roman emperor Constantine declared that both pagans and "Christians" would celebrate the Son of Gods birthday on the sun gods birthday, on the winter solstice. Also, all would celebrate Jesus's resurrection (commemorating His giving us new life when we are born again) on the pagan holy day of Easter; from Ishtar, the goddess of fertility (new life). The bunny and egg are symbols of fertility.

[theheat151]

That is correct, bro! Jesus was conceived during Hanakuh, the Fesitival of "Lights", and nine months later, Christ was born during the feast of "Tabernacles". That feast lasts 8 days, and on the 8th day, Christ was circumcised.

The Scriptures tells us that Christ is the "Light" of the world, and that he "tabernacled" among us. Soli Deo Gloria!

[MultiArchangel]

@theheat151 - Thanks brother! I thought I would do this video in the spirit of the Christmas season. I thought that Tishri 15 was around the right time. Narrowing the exact days for Abijah is a pain though. lol A Dios ser toda la gloria!