@gaguy1967 it was designed that way so that people could bring their cars up to the aircraft and that they could have more room in general for people on the ground
@youngestpilotinGa It provides better leverage against the airframe, allowing for a smaller tail than would be possible if it were mounted lower. It also decreases the pitch changes usually experienced when altering the power setting of a prop driven aircraft.
Thats a pretty good landing! I would have flown in slightly shallower and tried to get it as close to the numbers as possible though but Im not knocking you its a good landing by far
It's apparent that you are not that familiar with the PC-12. Yes Vso is 64kts but that is when the shaker activates. You can override the shaker. Which of course is only safe right before touchdown. The PC-12's true stall speed is right around 56kts.
that runway is easily long enough for the PC-12, he landed a good bit past the beginning of the runway and still could slow to a stop before the end, and since he's landing on that end of the runway he could use the displaced threshold (part of the runway that has the arrows pointing towards the plane).
I know. I said because of the direction he's landing in, he can use the displaced threshold, as in, to roll on, not to touch-down on. He doesn't have to stop at the runway end mark. Also, lots of times, the displaced threshold is there to meet obstacle limitation surface requirements. Probably more so than because of a low PCN on that part.
its configured as if someone took a Queen air beachcraft, gave it one big turbo nose engine with Falcon Fifty or Lear Jet wings. Not smart if engine fails. Not much to glide with........
I accept your personal opinion of the PC-12 but as an operator I have to set one thing straight, the PC-12 can glide 2.6 NM per 1000 ft of altitude, which equals out to about 50 NM at an average cruising altitute which is very good. And please also read the next comment that I am about to post about the safety compared to twins.
Also this aircraft has 0 fatalities due to engine failure. Compared to 14.28 fatalities per year due to loss of power in twin engine turborops in the US. (Over last 20 years)
Even if the latest crash would have been caused by an engine failure the PC-12 would just have 0.93 fatalities over its last 15 years of operation due to engine failure. There are a total of 38 fatalities world wide within 15 years of operation and over 700 PC-12's in the sky. That makes it one of the safest GA aircrafts.
whats all this talk about rules? pretty sure all he said was it was gutsy not illegal.. plus its common sense. i wouldnt even be comfortable landing a 172 or 152 in that tight of a runway... anyway if u get blown over the side of the runway at the last minute or anything else happens, you might not be able to get out and damage the plane and your job. so all u baddass rebilious dudes r really stupid!
Are nonsense! with the right training, it can make you into a good pilot that will allow you to fly in alot of challenging conditions. Maybe you need some more exposure in this kind of environment.. ..... a little bit different to the easy "piece of cake CTA 30m wide runways???? look at it form a positive prospective. :)
Garmin 395 also gets you XM Weather. Flew in a Citation a few months ago and the pilot had one too. Give a better overall few of weather conditions and can display weather at any airport reporting automated weather information.
When I looked into adding wx to my 430 it was many thousands of dollars for the XM receiving unit. The 395 (396) can be had for a couple grand totally.
Great video!, Does somebody know if you can fly a PC12 in VFR conditions? so only with PPL license and typerating (no commercial proposes).
racear8 2 months ago
@racear8 Legally, I know of nothing that would preclude it; pragmatically speaking, There are two factors to consider.
1.) I rather doubt that any insurer would permit it.
2.) You would have to operate at a relatively low altitude that would cause the engine to guzzle fuel.
CounterCultureLives 1 month ago
Yeah, Swiss Made!!!!
TheHorizonhobby 6 months ago
pa mi que se le revento una cubierta
seuruguay 7 months ago
A beauty to watch... with plenty of room to spare!
FlyTheBlueSky 8 months ago
okay, i've walked on sidewalks wider than this runway..
beatchildproductions 8 months ago
for me the best luxe turboprop in the world!
dima78350 1 year ago 5
I definitely want one of these!
mrjimhoward 1 year ago
Why does the PC-12 have T tail? Otherwise I think it is a great plane
gaguy1967 1 year ago
@gaguy1967 it was designed that way so that people could bring their cars up to the aircraft and that they could have more room in general for people on the ground
youngestpilotinGa 1 year ago
@youngestpilotinGa It provides better leverage against the airframe, allowing for a smaller tail than would be possible if it were mounted lower. It also decreases the pitch changes usually experienced when altering the power setting of a prop driven aircraft.
ClancD 1 year ago
nice;-)
kokal1ful 1 year ago
safty single turbo prop plane ever
navajo1806 1 year ago
nice good
kokal1ful 1 year ago
with all the nice navs in that plane and you stick a gps on the dask. Please!
graycloud057 1 year ago
@graycloud057
Maybe be likes the 496?
leakystarfish 1 year ago
@graycloud057 Its a backup if the primary GPS fails.
mrjck 1 year ago
Thats a pretty good landing! I would have flown in slightly shallower and tried to get it as close to the numbers as possible though but Im not knocking you its a good landing by far
cobrala 1 year ago
How did the takeoff go?
Jperson106 1 year ago
thats crazy.. 1800' x 29'.. theres an airport by my house that is 2000' and some people are scared to land there in a cessna! lol
tot173 1 year ago
@tot173 realistically you should be able to land a cessna within 800' using the short field technique.
schnitzel2k3 1 year ago
are there thrust reversters and spoilers
MrPiperpilot 2 years ago
I flew the approach at 80kts which I spexifies in an earlier post.
cub22764 2 years ago
It's apparent that you are not that familiar with the PC-12. Yes Vso is 64kts but that is when the shaker activates. You can override the shaker. Which of course is only safe right before touchdown. The PC-12's true stall speed is right around 56kts.
cub22764 2 years ago
@cub22764 What?
christychackojohn 2 years ago
ok now show us what the take off friggin looked like.......
jfreak91 2 years ago
What is the normal approach speed for the pc-12?
plcaviation 2 years ago
how much would a P-9, P-7 or a P-21 cost?
blakeblake321 2 years ago
bout 3 mil
fxdwings 2 years ago
Normal approach speed is 80kts short field touch down low diamond on AOA or around 60kts.
cub22764 2 years ago
Vso is 64 kts, you aren't flying an approach at 60.
flattrackmile 2 years ago
It seems like the runway is a bit upslope..! I guess that would make some difference..
gonzal59 2 years ago
There is no upslope to this runway
cub22764 2 years ago
that runway is easily long enough for the PC-12, he landed a good bit past the beginning of the runway and still could slow to a stop before the end, and since he's landing on that end of the runway he could use the displaced threshold (part of the runway that has the arrows pointing towards the plane).
it looks a bit narrow... all the more fun.
nano404 2 years ago
your not supposed to land on the displaced threshold it's not weight rated for that.
FlyingPhoAddict 2 years ago
I know. I said because of the direction he's landing in, he can use the displaced threshold, as in, to roll on, not to touch-down on. He doesn't have to stop at the runway end mark. Also, lots of times, the displaced threshold is there to meet obstacle limitation surface requirements. Probably more so than because of a low PCN on that part.
nano404 2 years ago
its configured as if someone took a Queen air beachcraft, gave it one big turbo nose engine with Falcon Fifty or Lear Jet wings. Not smart if engine fails. Not much to glide with........
dont like it atall.
Tooth4U 2 years ago
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patmichl 2 years ago
I accept your personal opinion of the PC-12 but as an operator I have to set one thing straight, the PC-12 can glide 2.6 NM per 1000 ft of altitude, which equals out to about 50 NM at an average cruising altitute which is very good. And please also read the next comment that I am about to post about the safety compared to twins.
patmichl 2 years ago
Also this aircraft has 0 fatalities due to engine failure. Compared to 14.28 fatalities per year due to loss of power in twin engine turborops in the US. (Over last 20 years)
Even if the latest crash would have been caused by an engine failure the PC-12 would just have 0.93 fatalities over its last 15 years of operation due to engine failure. There are a total of 38 fatalities world wide within 15 years of operation and over 700 PC-12's in the sky. That makes it one of the safest GA aircrafts.
patmichl 2 years ago 3
It's a PT-6 right?
Bullet proof.
lucabrasi1337 2 years ago
Yes, the PC-12 has a PT-6!
patmichl 2 years ago
.... and in spite of that fact, they still seem to be selling just fine...
flattrackmile 2 years ago
one of these just crashed
DavidMcMahon1 2 years ago
you guys should look at some runways in the caribbean or central america... this is a very nice landng stip compared to the ones there
merto31 2 years ago
Training is important in being able to do this, but just as important is experience.
unrealugn 2 years ago
pretty tight. reminds me of a runway out here. Tough to land even in a C172 if there is a crosswind.
Duh1234550 2 years ago
whats all this talk about rules? pretty sure all he said was it was gutsy not illegal.. plus its common sense. i wouldnt even be comfortable landing a 172 or 152 in that tight of a runway... anyway if u get blown over the side of the runway at the last minute or anything else happens, you might not be able to get out and damage the plane and your job. so all u baddass rebilious dudes r really stupid!
crj900flyer 3 years ago
Are nonsense! with the right training, it can make you into a good pilot that will allow you to fly in alot of challenging conditions. Maybe you need some more exposure in this kind of environment.. ..... a little bit different to the easy "piece of cake CTA 30m wide runways???? look at it form a positive prospective. :)
oriondelta83 3 years ago
there are old pilots
there are bold pilots
the are no old bold pilots
lol
urdaddy4321 3 years ago
but I would do that approach in a heart beat.
Center of the runway is always the same width
whether the runway is 50' or 150' wide
urdaddy4321 3 years ago
if you can't land a 172 on that strip you are not a good pilot! It was a very nice landing.
flyindeuces 2 years ago
What was the CAWS you got on landing?
CTJoyce 3 years ago
At 01:04? It's the descision height (= minimums)-callout.
VirtualPilot13 3 years ago
Oops sorry, forgot what was the CAWS again ;)
VirtualPilot13 3 years ago
Is this a private PC-12? Or Is This A Seaport Air?
Jperson106 3 years ago
skinny strip. nicely done.
jjcavins 3 years ago
how many gps's do u need?
N9602FL 3 years ago
Until all the space is taken up, there's always room for another gps! :D
badkharma101 3 years ago
As a fellow PC12 driver I've got to say "good job" and "gutsy move". The 1800' length wouldn't bother me but 29' width...THAT'S tight:)
bubbataylor 3 years ago
I love that plane!
f15pilotaf 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
The landing was illegal. The person shooting the video was not seated or belted.
flightshare 3 years ago
Mr.fucking safety bear. Go back into hibernation
ismasamov55 3 years ago
shut the fuck up homie. you fucking nerd. fuck the rules
BBALLin3132 3 years ago
you think people always follow the rules? lol, you must live under a fuckin rock. who cares? honestly...
meeksdigital 3 years ago
oh yeah btw, excellent job. i love the PC-12, it will be my next airplane.
meeksdigital 3 years ago
I first thought this was a Porter---I had no idea the PC-12 could land so neatly! Cool!
TopHatTheatre 4 years ago
Garmin 395 also gets you XM Weather. Flew in a Citation a few months ago and the pilot had one too. Give a better overall few of weather conditions and can display weather at any airport reporting automated weather information.
bdbogus 4 years ago 2
What's the purpose of the 385 on the dash? What's wrong with the 430 and 530 in the panel? Nice job though! 1800ft is more than enough!
jmaugham 4 years ago
scratch 385...I meant 395.
jmaugham 4 years ago
Redundancy.
TRS717 4 years ago
When I looked into adding wx to my 430 it was many thousands of dollars for the XM receiving unit. The 395 (396) can be had for a couple grand totally.
RobertGary1 3 years ago
you can take it home and replay the trip
MetaView7 2 years ago