It would be sweet if jesse and howard were both co-lead singers for the band...have Jesse do the epic screams while Howard sings with his Godly powerful voice...how epic would if be if they all recorded an album together? I'll give a thumbs up to that
These two guys are absolute legends....I dont give a fuck about all these idiots that keep arguing about this who is the best bullshit...lets face it, Killswitch Engage is not just about the singer its a unit and its about all of them!....They will all always be legends....legends never die...they live forever!!
its not about talent its that jesse fucks his chords i know killswitch missed shows cuz howard got sick but, jesse shreds his chords and adam was very afraid of being left without a singer randomly at one point and having to drop everything. those "emotional" screams everybody loves fuckin rape ur throat.
I love howard and Jessie but I think this is just perfect. Jessie hows a much higher pitch scream anyway. I can't even believe he gets hate from you guys. They are both great. Howard of course is better at singing but that is a givin and he did help launch the band a lot more.
As much as I love times of grace and the whole gang it seems like jesse has downgraded in looks and vocals when watching him perform live. I know he's never been that great at singing, but his screaming has always been awesome but in times of graces recent live performances its just not there like in this video for example.
Both are amazing. In this they have so much respect for each other, they look happy, and you KNOW they enjoy doing this! I always get the biggest smile on my face when I watch this! FUCKING EPIC! God bless these two vocalists :'D
wow, i dont think any words can fully describe how amazing this performance is! This brought a tear to my eye.
I hope Killswitch Engage will make more songs with Jesse in the future, because all these guys are just incredibly talented and not including Jesse in at least a couple songs would just be a waste of talent in my opinion.
oh god,where the fuck was i when this happened?! i would of killed to see Jesse again! id choose jesse's brutal screams and live intensity over howards clean vocals anyday
And on a purely technical level, I'm sorry but Howard is a WAAAY more solid vocalist than Jesse. If you compare enough of their live footage you will notice that Howard nearly always KILLS his clean vocals as well as his screaming. Jesse always kills his screams live but tends to be less accurate with the clean vocals...
I'm sorry, Jesse is great and all, but Howard fucking KILLED the cleans. No contest on clean vocals at all. Couldn't really hear him on the screams, but I still think he's better than Jesse.
Howard is cool and all, but I don't see how there can be any debate. Personal taste is one thing, but on a technical level Jesse is better at both singing and screaming.
Howard's a bit more polished, but Jesse's intensity is awesome. Both great singers... wish Jesse never left but they couldn't have found a better replacement.
okay fucker you can't say the n-word...jesse quit cause he blew out his voice howards one hell of a singer and screams like nothing i've ever heard...ask anyone in goddforbid all that remains slipnot and alot of other great hevy bands both great....we can all agree that Adam D is and allways will be the fuckin shit right!!!!!!
@bohie come on you idiot. I'm a german and I'm not a neonazi ass. I never thought bad about black people, even my favourite basketball player is an afro american (D Wade). Yeah, you heard right. It's not Nowitzki only because he is a german. racism is as mad as senseless. We are all humans. It doesn't matter if a man is black or white. If someone hates black people only because they are different, that's nothing but ridiculous
@s0010092 dude i knoe!!! xD like it suks cuz they had so much potential together that they wuld fuking BEAST ON EVERY BAND! lol i love bullet for my valentine but honestly if jesse and howard both were in KSE, then i wuld automatically have to worship them lol just saying!!!
Dude jesse and howard would have been beasty if jesse was still in killswitch engage! Cuz howard sings REALLY good but jesse screams are WAY BETTER. It would have been perfect :/
@slipback4000 i definitely agree. Killswitch engage would litterally be one of the best, if not THE best band if both vocalists were in it, they both have amazing ability, total EARGASM :D
@liamwhite95 this was filmed when he was recovering from having surgery on his back so he wasn't able to play. So they got andreas from sepultura there though, so it makes up for it!
@liamwhite95 he messed it up while performing from what I remember, he had some sort of nerve damage i guess, he's still got to deal with it but he's doing pretty awesome right now from what I see.
This performance is REALLY COOL. But it is HORRIBLE. They are WAY off Timing Wise. It felt so fucking rushed it isn't even funny. And they were having some MAJOR issues with everyone staying in sync. Still freaking amazing though. It would've been better being there live.
I've been a KSE fan for years now and I still don't understand why people have the argument "who's the better singer" and all that shit because at the end of the day they are both KSE legends and there is nothing between them. Howard and Jessie are fantastic. KSE for life!
There is only one way to describe this performance. Pure and absolute love. These two love what they do and you can tell they had an amazing amount of respect for each other when they did this. God bless these two vocalist :' )
comparing jesse and howard is quite literally like comparing balck and white, they are both amazing vocalists that sound incredibly different, neither one is better then the other
Howard's the best!
sharklord 1 week ago
the only way this could be better if adam was there
TheLegacyofgaming 1 week ago
jizzed myself seeing 2 great kse singers side by side
screamingismyair 2 weeks ago
Is that a Kyuss shirt? Shit, No wonder I did Jesse. Awesome taste.
MrHotPocketMan83 2 weeks ago
@MrHotPocketMan83 you did jesse? kinda gay man
bringerofplagues1213 5 days ago
@bringerofplagues1213 xD I meant "dig", not did. haha
MrHotPocketMan83 3 days ago
is it just me or is this show Andreas Kisser
ILucas121212 4 weeks ago
dude that was so fucking epic.
Isharted100 1 month ago
Jesse and Howard sound SICK together! They should be in the same band. Jesse's scream and Howard's vibrato'd voice is *uhhhh* in the pants.
If Phil popped in, the show would have exploded in epicness
Shadiggles 1 month ago 2
I love Hojo but this is Jesse's song and he owns it here.
ThecowsaysFU 1 month ago 2
i just like howard more
ilike757 1 month ago
so finally a band thats good live
poliwrath33 1 month ago
Fucking Epic is all i have to say
bill7151976 1 month ago
they both are so fucking amazing I LOVE KILLSWITCH ENGAGE!!!
metalbone 1 month ago
thsi performance is fcking legend :D ^^ DAAAAAMn
McCremtorte 1 month ago
@rauatorres your spot on with that
nmbr1slayer 1 month ago
hopefuly on the new KSE album they have a song with howard and jesse
BFMVHeadbanger 1 month ago
jessie has better screams and howard has better clean vocals.
rauatorres 1 month ago
Wow what just happened???? XD
cardsmn2 1 month ago 2
i never got used to howard. i will always like jesse better
TKoneseventeen 1 month ago
amazing singers. Both of them
xfachuxdtfx 1 month ago
I'd be lying if I said by watching this video I didn't achieve a rock hard boner.
JuveKnight10 1 month ago 2
Honestly, I prefer Jesse's screams, but Howard's cleans
Shinbu1128 2 months ago 4
Howard sings better than jesse!
panelo051 2 months ago
how cool is it to see them perform togethor like total bros!
TheMasonFTW 2 months ago 3
While i prefer jessie howard and phil are great.
badassbillyification 2 months ago
jesse is better howard is ok i guess
sdrawecw09 2 months ago
both are amazing
phenozarky7 2 months ago
AMAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
Ricoshete 2 months ago
It would be sweet if jesse and howard were both co-lead singers for the band...have Jesse do the epic screams while Howard sings with his Godly powerful voice...how epic would if be if they all recorded an album together? I'll give a thumbs up to that
Schneidyman09 2 months ago 3
@Schneidyman09 i fucking agree with u guy
maniammanetta 2 months ago
My Fav live song by far <3
hottnspiceyy 2 months ago
@hottnspiceyy agreed
sdrawecw09 2 months ago
These two guys are absolute legends....I dont give a fuck about all these idiots that keep arguing about this who is the best bullshit...lets face it, Killswitch Engage is not just about the singer its a unit and its about all of them!....They will all always be legends....legends never die...they live forever!!
vampire09100 2 months ago 3
how have I never seen this? HOW!?
metallicamike 2 months ago
its not about talent its that jesse fucks his chords i know killswitch missed shows cuz howard got sick but, jesse shreds his chords and adam was very afraid of being left without a singer randomly at one point and having to drop everything. those "emotional" screams everybody loves fuckin rape ur throat.
A7XMSorrow 2 months ago
I love how the last bit of the URL for this video is just "lolz"
halfhawkeainsley 3 months ago
I love howard and Jessie but I think this is just perfect. Jessie hows a much higher pitch scream anyway. I can't even believe he gets hate from you guys. They are both great. Howard of course is better at singing but that is a givin and he did help launch the band a lot more.
DARQMX 3 months ago
i love how jesse bursts onto the scene and screams YOOOOOOOOOOOU! so sweet
hungrywombat123 3 months ago
Great,..
but where's Adam,...??
birth2end 3 months ago
@birth2end I beleive this was done when Adam was having back surgery.
KsEABRADTR 3 months ago
@KsEABRADTR tnx for the info,...
poor guy,...
birth2end 3 months ago
Howards got the skills but Jesse has the soul. I love Killswitch!!
jbswcacmbc 3 months ago
As much as I love times of grace and the whole gang it seems like jesse has downgraded in looks and vocals when watching him perform live. I know he's never been that great at singing, but his screaming has always been awesome but in times of graces recent live performances its just not there like in this video for example.
ATTOJ559 3 months ago
G R E A T !!!!!
RavenGemini07 3 months ago 2
two vocalists, one word: EPIC
falcodar3 4 months ago 14
Both are amazing. In this they have so much respect for each other, they look happy, and you KNOW they enjoy doing this! I always get the biggest smile on my face when I watch this! FUCKING EPIC! God bless these two vocalists :'D
maggot93666 4 months ago 37
Jesse isnt as good as he used to be............
TheLegacyofgaming 4 months ago
it would actually be so cool if jesse and howard were in kse
hungrywombat123 4 months ago
the best version for this song right here
MyRockfan 5 months ago
2:53 look at Howard and Jesse. Maybe I'm seeing things O_O or that just looks wrong XD Fail guys!
Nah. Excellent song, amazing band. Howard's an awesome singer for them but both singers are both fucking amazing!!
PendulumBlade 5 months ago
@PendulumBlade their just messing around
TheLegacyofgaming 4 months ago
I prefer vocalists(Jesse for example) that makes me feel like I could fuck up a hoard of angry grizzly bears.
BlueMagicProductionz 5 months ago
wow, i dont think any words can fully describe how amazing this performance is! This brought a tear to my eye.
I hope Killswitch Engage will make more songs with Jesse in the future, because all these guys are just incredibly talented and not including Jesse in at least a couple songs would just be a waste of talent in my opinion.
rossapher24 5 months ago
this is fucking epic!
usernameamy 5 months ago
wow!! so amazing and powerfull... Guys you are the best
sorcitband1 5 months ago
Jesse is betten than Howard !
LeftBehind4ever 5 months ago
やっぱHowardの方が数段上手い。代わって正解。
brutaltruthanthrax 5 months ago
oh god,where the fuck was i when this happened?! i would of killed to see Jesse again! id choose jesse's brutal screams and live intensity over howards clean vocals anyday
beupinthis 5 months ago
And on a purely technical level, I'm sorry but Howard is a WAAAY more solid vocalist than Jesse. If you compare enough of their live footage you will notice that Howard nearly always KILLS his clean vocals as well as his screaming. Jesse always kills his screams live but tends to be less accurate with the clean vocals...
Ebonfire9620 5 months ago
"Jesse is a better singer, nja-nja-nja" "No, Howard is a better singer nja-nja-nja"
It's all just a matter of taste, guys, wether you like one's sound more than the other (I like 'em both, though) ;-)
Ebonfire9620 5 months ago
i think i wouldve cried if i saw them BOTH on stage together........out of joy of course!!!!
mmacd1319 5 months ago
just wondering but why did howard replace jesse i mean i love howard being the front man for kse but jesse kicks ass as a singer
XxDeadSilencexX666 5 months ago
Andreas Kisser from Sepultura !!!!
GlockenspielSAS 5 months ago
@GlockenspielSAS Holy shit, i just noticed. How did this happen??
paulstonecouk 4 months ago
@paulstonecouk It was on the Roadrunner United concert bro. Definitely check out the song ,,The Dagger" - Howard and Robb Flynn at vox !
GlockenspielSAS 4 months ago
@GlockenspielSAS robb flynn? sounds familliar whats he from? lol
hungrywombat123 3 months ago
@hungrywombat123 From Machine Head
GlockenspielSAS 3 months ago
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@hungrywombat123 he´s from Machine Head
GlockenspielSAS 3 months ago
@hungrywombat123 Rob Flynn is a fucking beast one of my fav vocalists of all time, you should look him up he's pretty kickass
MartyFriedmanRulez66 2 months ago
I'm sorry, Jesse is great and all, but Howard fucking KILLED the cleans. No contest on clean vocals at all. Couldn't really hear him on the screams, but I still think he's better than Jesse.
ThatDeathcoreGuy 5 months ago
yeah fuck the crowd
dannycatastrophe 5 months ago
Howard is cool and all, but I don't see how there can be any debate. Personal taste is one thing, but on a technical level Jesse is better at both singing and screaming.
pugovitz 5 months ago
is there anywhere i can download this song wiv both jesse and howard?
Lewis0006 5 months ago
Yo dannyboy cheek out times of grace, it's Adam and Jesse
IrishFists 5 months ago
i freaking love Jesse but Howard is by far a superior vocalist
xJETxLEEx 6 months ago
@xJETxLEEx thats true howard is but hawards screams well lets just say jesse has WAY better screams
Davidkazenshi 5 months ago
Aarghh Jesse! I Hate YOU! This was awesome performance, but I hate you because you dont want to back. Take Your Ass to KsE or I will kill my self!
Saren16LP 6 months ago 2
@Saren16LP He might do a reunion tour (Alive or Just Breathing tour) listen to Times of Grace! it's him and Adam D!
lukeeboy15 6 months ago
@lukeeboy15 I know about Times of Grace, The Empire Shall Fall and others but I dont understand why he dont want to back man
Saren16LP 6 months ago
:,,) soo beautiful
Hellrazor1112 6 months ago
Ahh. High School memories!
StarfishPrimeADO 6 months ago
Legendary
Alt1400 6 months ago
Seriously Jesse should come back and do guest vocals on a new cd, if they're still making music.
Dannnyboyyyy 6 months ago
I prefer howard but you cant deny jesse is a fucking beast
subfiction1 6 months ago 22
Best combination ins music history you cant deny it
D3THSCreaM 6 months ago
Jesse is the fuckin man, I miss that dude in this band.
dirtyneedles77 6 months ago
@bohie ...simply FUCK YOU
f1rstone2surviv3 6 months ago
Howard's a bit more polished, but Jesse's intensity is awesome. Both great singers... wish Jesse never left but they couldn't have found a better replacement.
twiztidfoo 6 months ago
INTENSE
ProRunecraft 6 months ago
it just keeps getting BETTTER !!!!!!!!!!
maddogre 6 months ago
okay fucker you can't say the n-word...jesse quit cause he blew out his voice howards one hell of a singer and screams like nothing i've ever heard...ask anyone in goddforbid all that remains slipnot and alot of other great hevy bands both great....we can all agree that Adam D is and allways will be the fuckin shit right!!!!!!
MrKevlem 6 months ago
@MrKevlem Jesse didn't really blow out his voice. Listen to The Empire Shall Fall and then Times of Grace and tell me he blew out his voice.
lilpeaceacrap 6 months ago
jesse is the best , howard is only a fucking nigg poser XD
bohie 6 months ago
@bohie Seriously you neo nazie prick, hitler died move forward. Jesse quit someone had to fill in, Howard does a pretty good fucking job.
RayneoftheDead 6 months ago 2
@RayneoftheDead For reals, I'm tired of the haters, he's the only nigger that can scream like that
jackapples1 6 months ago
@jackapples1 You are a racist turd.
XboxHerO3467 6 months ago
@bohie come on you idiot. I'm a german and I'm not a neonazi ass. I never thought bad about black people, even my favourite basketball player is an afro american (D Wade). Yeah, you heard right. It's not Nowitzki only because he is a german. racism is as mad as senseless. We are all humans. It doesn't matter if a man is black or white. If someone hates black people only because they are different, that's nothing but ridiculous
DoubleG441 6 months ago
@bohie Fuck You.
ownedtwic3 6 months ago
@bohie have you ever considered that just maybe you should have ended up a stain on your daddy's jackrag? Fucking idiot!!
ProjectXMan247 6 months ago
both are wonderful vocalists, miss ya jesse
openentire 7 months ago 7
howard ruined this band :(
ChangeandEvolve 7 months ago
Sycronised Destruction at its musical best ^o^
MaskedMenace830 7 months ago
This is amazing I freaking love Killswitch Engage
MrSinister6661 7 months ago
andreas FTW
shanetones 7 months ago
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Howard is so much better for KSE
But both of them singing that song is great too
MissSinfullpain 7 months ago
Howard is so much better for KSE
But both of them singing that song is great too
MissSinfullpain 7 months ago
niceee
20plague 7 months ago
dude, i miss jesse in KSE! love to hear him do some of their newer stuff
pockets417 7 months ago
Fuck that was so awesome @.@
muffinsxtastexgood 7 months ago
@s0010092 dude i knoe!!! xD like it suks cuz they had so much potential together that they wuld fuking BEAST ON EVERY BAND! lol i love bullet for my valentine but honestly if jesse and howard both were in KSE, then i wuld automatically have to worship them lol just saying!!!
slipback4000 7 months ago
Holy goosebumps batman! This is just incredible
Toolband42O 7 months ago
so more intense and far beyond brutal with jesse.. guess thats why alive or just breathing was the last badass album
hellbilly11 7 months ago
Jesse should well team up with Howard for joint vocals. Would fucking own. Jesse's screams and Howard's singing = instant orgasm
MachineKnot91 7 months ago 2
2:52 Makes me smile. They seem to be having so much fun :D
s0010092 7 months ago
Dude jesse and howard would have been beasty if jesse was still in killswitch engage! Cuz howard sings REALLY good but jesse screams are WAY BETTER. It would have been perfect :/
slipback4000 7 months ago
@slipback4000 i definitely agree. Killswitch engage would litterally be one of the best, if not THE best band if both vocalists were in it, they both have amazing ability, total EARGASM :D
s0010092 7 months ago
wheres adam d?
liamwhite95 7 months ago
@liamwhite95 this was filmed when he was recovering from having surgery on his back so he wasn't able to play. So they got andreas from sepultura there though, so it makes up for it!
MattitudeXSensei 7 months ago
@MattitudeXSensei what did he do to his back?
liamwhite95 7 months ago
@liamwhite95 he messed it up while performing from what I remember, he had some sort of nerve damage i guess, he's still got to deal with it but he's doing pretty awesome right now from what I see.
MattitudeXSensei 7 months ago
andreas kisser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cesard0minguez 7 months ago
2:00 lol howard failed to do his line
TheLegacyofgaming 7 months ago
@TheLegacyofgaming i think he was trying to get the crowd to sing...
Disnamesucksass 7 months ago
passing the torch of kse to howard
markanthonytaguinod 7 months ago
listening to them screaming together got to say how much more emotion comes out of jesse, but howard blows away in the chorus XD
JaxTheBear 7 months ago
watch?v=vNYc02m4Tqk this video gives you a very good comparison between both Jesse and Howard's clean vocal techniques.
papan1990 8 months ago
This performance is REALLY COOL. But it is HORRIBLE. They are WAY off Timing Wise. It felt so fucking rushed it isn't even funny. And they were having some MAJOR issues with everyone staying in sync. Still freaking amazing though. It would've been better being there live.
BDogGrizzly 8 months ago
@BDogGrizzly i think they were like 2 minutes before the song "hey we should sing toguether and howard was like... ok"
lueszu 7 months ago
I've been a KSE fan for years now and I still don't understand why people have the argument "who's the better singer" and all that shit because at the end of the day they are both KSE legends and there is nothing between them. Howard and Jessie are fantastic. KSE for life!
euanrocks 8 months ago
Kse with Jesse, awesome, Kse with Howard, epic, Kse with Jesse and Howard....There hasn't been a word invented yet to describe it.
sharklord 8 months ago
howard's normal singin is better then jesse but in screaming their kinda equal
patrickmetal96 8 months ago
Why he Gots times of grace he's better off
TheMike31b 8 months ago
there is a part of me who wished he never left KSE but howard is sweet too.
Froobat 8 months ago
jesse IS killswitch engage!!!
theaethyr 8 months ago
They should use both singer al the time. How fxxking great would that be??
hvl41 8 months ago
Andreas kisser from sepultura on guitar man that gig must of rocked
Idiotcorrector 8 months ago
Holy Shit that was AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!
ljlao 8 months ago
i dunno i kinda like jesse better :/
dimebaghimself 8 months ago
Howard definitely has the better clean vocals but they are both incredible.
PlagueRages101 9 months ago 3
I just cried watching this.
HumanSculpture 9 months ago
@HumanSculpture pfff, i jizzed
HammersmashedTaco 9 months ago
@HammersmashedTaco even better. btw love the user name
HumanSculpture 9 months ago
would be cool to have them both in KSE like Despised Icon or something
stoltobot 9 months ago
same
Shagganater 9 months ago
Andreas Kisser on guitar! HOW COOL IS THAT?
pedrogusf 9 months ago
Andreas Kisser from Sepultura on the right! \m/
brunonicob 9 months ago
I wonder how "Arms Of Sorrow" would sound with Leach on vocals.
bsunnyisaac 9 months ago
There is only one way to describe this performance. Pure and absolute love. These two love what they do and you can tell they had an amazing amount of respect for each other when they did this. God bless these two vocalist :' )
maggot93666 9 months ago 47
this is the best version of this song, and Jesse owns this song over Howard but both are so fuckin awesome..seen them live with both and they rock
jburd999 9 months ago
these two should always sing together for KSE. How great would that be.
Like both as individual singer but combined.... would even be better.
hvl41 10 months ago
damn jesse has more emotion in his vocals
ImmortalSpammer 10 months ago 30
@ImmortalSpammer he wrote the song
metalfuk1 6 months ago
@metalfuk1 i know he did. i preferred killswitch with jesse on vocals
ImmortalSpammer 6 months ago
@ImmortalSpammer eh
metalfuk1 6 months ago
@metalfuk1 wtf does that mean? i think howard pussified killswitch
ImmortalSpammer 6 months ago
@ImmortalSpammer jesse isnt as good a singer
metalfuk1 6 months ago
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Saren16LP 6 months ago
they r both good singers a hell of a lot better than you trolls!
fairyd0ll 10 months ago
kse is one of those types of bands that only come around 1 or 2 times a decade. no one will ever replace kse. EVER.
tragicsz 10 months ago
both have so fucking nice voices and have to lead killswitch together!!!
thats what i think cause jesse's voice is higher but howard's is fucking incredibal!
we need howard AND jesse
HardBasti 10 months ago
jesse's voice is so amazing for screams,and howard is good with singing and in this song they simply murdered it! it was great! a fkn masterpiece!
187paisa666 10 months ago
my names jesse:)
Litsher 10 months ago
@Litsher haha and mine :)
0121brapp 10 months ago
@0121brapp haha.
Litsher 10 months ago
This is......Fucking.....Aweeeesooome!!!!
mikevayne1 10 months ago
why did Jesse leave Killswitch?
codytaylor89 10 months ago
@codytaylor89
Go out to FYE or Best Buy, Buy Killswitch Engage DVD Set This World Ablaze before we all beat you
violentbryan21 10 months ago
hey that other guitarist isn't he from the band Sepultura? (not joel)
acad13 10 months ago
oh shit....them some fucking harmonies right there
vegeto27 10 months ago
These two are just absoloutely amazing. Both brilliant by their own rights :)
Brill together <3
KSE<3
s0010092 10 months ago
both singers are amazing if they do come together KSE will be unstoppable
AirshdOw 10 months ago
This is the definition of music. End of.
razamundo132 10 months ago 2
Hard to beat.
santacruztodd 10 months ago
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0121brapp 10 months ago
so great... jesse and howard yay
FlakMTz 11 months ago
KSE sounds AMAZING live id kill to go see a live show
ImGodsBrotherJack 11 months ago
comparing jesse and howard is quite literally like comparing balck and white, they are both amazing vocalists that sound incredibly different, neither one is better then the other
randomguitarist789 11 months ago
OMG this is soo epic! Great too see Jesse back in action if even for just one song. Miss the hell out of him.
JustinVanDyke 11 months ago 3
Sadly Both Of Them Are Equal In Everything Just Think If We Didnt Have Howard Or Jesse There Would Be No KsE : Love Live KsE <3
atayl129 11 months ago
I can't help but smile at Justin looking like an office worker with his modest beard, haha. He looks so ordinary back in the day. :-P
DatGuy3638 11 months ago
WOW
ricky12leavens 11 months ago