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  • what,s better GTX 460 SLI OR ATI 5850 xfire please answer

  • hereshow computer guys should compare there rigs, who has the biggest powerbill?

  • Great video!

  • can I crossfire two different video cards or do they have to be exactly the same.

  • @TheElectron504 Didnt see an answer to your question so; Brands dont matter but the best thing is to match cards from the same series (like say two 5850) because the weakest card will set the overall max performance. Also, and im not 100% sure, it is best to match specifications such as clocks and VRAM. Hope it helps :).

  • who cares, who plays batman games these days anyway :P

  • @legoman3342 Any1 who likes good games? Arkham city is gonna rock!

  • @PCnoobcakes not a fan

  • See how your motherboard and PSU arent in a case, can you buy setups like that? i dont like cases because it gets too hot and doesnt have enough ventilation where it is atm.

    

  • i that possible to run hd5850 and hd6970 crossfire?

  • @RRapDiss no, only same models!

  • @RRapDiss Yes it is go to overclockersclub com/reviews/xfx58705850/16.htm

  • Hi, I know this card is for game. my situation work as designer like CAD, after effects and 3d modeling 3D Max. All FirePro V series is to expensive. How about this card, please let me know...thanks

  • @rolram1973

    Firepro is aimed at precision, this is aimed at performance.

  • WHAT I NEED FOR USED THIS GRAPHIC???,

  • Which one is better: 5850 or 6850? PLEASE, ANSWER THE QUESTION.

  • @WiciuSJ 6850 duh

  • @JonnMcNally rong idiot 5850 is faster

  • @mikeyLOLOL He didn't ask which one was faster, idiot. He asked which one was better. Depending on how you look at it, it could go either way.

  • @JonnMcNally 5850 is faster dumb ass.

  • PLEASE COMMENT can i run one 5850 on my low budget system?

    600w psu (continuious)

    2.9ghz phenom II quad core

    4g 1333 (1866 o.c.)

    The pc tec at frys said this card ALONE rquires 600watts, when i showed him my psu fan had a scratch on the coolent he said that didn't matter. He also said i need a copper platted psu fan instead of an aluminum psu fan. He said to get a 5670 and nothing more. I'm thinking 5770 or 5850. ANY SUGGETIONS?

  • @SomeRandomTangent Ye no problem,get the 5850,ur psu is fine

  • @yumidad would i have to overclock? and how about the rest of the pc specs, are those ok?

  • Can i run two of these in crossfire with my Corsair TX 750w? A quick answer is apreciated

  • @tonifas1

    most likely yes, you can check on AMD website for certified psu and see if yours is on the list for your cards

  • what the .... are you doing with video card your over 50 still interest in gaming kid adult

  • CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THIS. IM STRUGGLING BEWTWEEN 5770 AND 5850. BECAUSE I LOOKED AT ALL THE SPECS OF THE 2 CARDS AND THEY ARE BOTH SAPPHIRE BUT THE 5770 HAS BETTER CORE CLOCK SPEED AND STREAMING UNITS THAN THE 5850. BUT IN EVERY VIDEO IT SAYS ITS BETTER AND HAS MORE FPS THAN 5770. BECAUSE I HEARD THAT THE HIGHER THE MODEL NAME THE BETTER. BUT THE SPECS ON THE LOWER MODEL CARD ARE BETTER. IM SO CONFUSED?

  • @caydn2 cards are confusing thats why its best to watch/ read reviews because it all comes down to what quality components and how its put together that makes the difference.

  • that guy never blinks....

  • FPS chart:

    60 fps=completely smooth. Higher than this framerate is not visible to the human eye.

    50 fps=it may be a tad bit slower than 60fps.

    40 fps=Really fast. Almost buttery smooth, but still a tad bit jittery if you look very very closely.

    30 fps=Not entirely smooth, but 100% playable in nearly all games.

    24 fps=Minimum requirement for optimal gameplay

    15 fps=Laggy

    Below 15 fps=unplayable

    Below 1 frame per second=enjoy your slideshow!

  • @FRURMELLL wow bullshit... your eyes dont see in frames per second but just absorb all of the light that come in contact with them... for a seasoned gamer can easily tell the difference between 60 and 150 fps

  • @FRURMELLL ehh, I really FEEL the difference between 125 FPS and 60 FPS...

    you dont SEE the difference but you still FEEL the difference ;)

  • @FRURMELLL LOL SLIDESHOW HAHAHA

  • I can tell more than 60FPS. The human eye can see more generally - there's no exact amount like anyone's hearing frequency range. I'll admit, you mainly feel the difference than see it. I like having 60FPS as I'm one of the few who feels nauseous if I play under 40FPS for a little while and get nauseous and feel dizzy and sick if I look at halogen lights for a while too (hmmh, like [Ubisoft] Gabe Graziani's wife... he told me - shouldn't mind me saying that).

  • @FRURMELLL "Not visible to the human eye" you do know humans dont see things in frames.. right?

    Also, its not about what you see you retard. The higher the framerate the less input lag you have, this applies to ALL games. Also I think you should read up on what "laggy" means, lag is related to connection, ping in multiplayer games, not framerate.

  • @FRURMELLL you, obviously dont have a 120 hz monitor with multi gpus that vsync at 120 fps.

  • @FRURMELLL 60fps only when using 120hz monitor, if using 60 then 30 is max

  • @FRURMELLL In their experiment a picture of an aircraft was flashed on a screen in a dark room at 1/220th of a second. Pilots were consistently able to "see" the afterimage as well as identify the aircraft. This simple and specific situation not only proves the ability to percieve 1 image within 1/220 of a second, but the ability to interpret higher FPS.

  • @FRURMELLL The human eye doesn't see in framerate. Also, 120hz monitors are smoother than 60hz ones.

  • @FRURMELLL I swear our eyes can only decipher about 12 pictures a second?

  • @FRURMELLL I thought the human eye can see 70 fps. bu anything higher than 40fps is great. your normal enduser screen extends the frames to 60 (60hz) 120 (120hz) .... last time is saw 1600hz tvs. it is totally crazy to sell the enduser 1600hz tvs .

  • @FRURMELLL 120 FPS = Highest framerate we can see. if it werent for that we wouldnt have screens that support 120Hz/fps would we? :)

  • @TheGMIM It's really relative to what's being displayed on screen. 60 FPS is really all you need though, it's really really smooth. The guy is wrong to say you can't see higher though. Also, if you're running crossfire, you're going to run into microstutter in games once FPS go below 25 - 30 FPS. Keep that in mind.

  • @FRURMELLL But if you have 120hz screen you can get 120fps, and you can DEFINETLY see a difference :) but not much, i would say 50-60 fps good... 40 laggy.. 30 or less is unplayable for me :) PERSONAL

  • STUPID FOOL, you look like an idiot, and talk like one too!

  • men thats what im talking about i like how you handle your reviews.i suscribe

  • i hope this helps,

    for SLI,, u need to have the same card, it has to be clocked at the same speed but it doesnt need to be the same brand, eg u can have evega card and a sapphire card,

    for crossfire, you don't need to have the same card but cards from the same generation,

    eg u can crossfire 5850 with 5870, BUT the higher card will be downgraded to match the clock speed of the lower cards,,

  • @sunj5976 Sweet Crossfire Rocks!

  • can you use different looking 5850`s ? or do they have to be identical ?

  • wouldnt even bother with the 5850.

  • can you use any 2 5850`s or do they have to be identical looking ?

  • lol. weird selection of games imho

  • wheres quakelive?

  • you didnt even test any games with awesome graphics...so you get no idea if its even good or not..

  • You are all oudated. Three GTX 580's will create a black hole in your house if you try to power them up.

  • @beirch wait up till amd release their dual gpu card , i heard nvidia will bring out a dual gpu next year too , gonna be awesome

  • @beirch

    lmao

  • im looking at buying a second 5850 for my system but i have a 700w crossfire/sli ready psu but the recommendation is 750w? will i be able to run 2 5850's and i5760 overclocked without issues?

  • @PoisonedSorrows Wattage means 80% nothing, give us the specs of the power supply, number of amps on the 12 v rails, model of the power supply, number of connections etc... Then it'll be a pleasure to answer your question :)

  • @PoisonedSorrows i think you can only run two of the same cards not 5850 x2 and a 5760.

  • @TEEKHD i5 760 is my processor

  • what power supply are you using?

  • LOL 2 x HD 5850 is so lame , 2 X GTX 460 SLi kill ATi crossfire. And ATi is dead , is only AMD RADEON .

  • @leshu2007 Time to take Nvidia's Cock out of ya mouth dude. XD

  • er schaut irgendwie fast wie der jumbo "xxl" schreiner aus

  • NICE HAIR

  • You kind of contradict yourself by saying it isn't a large investment and then stating that is for those who have the money.

  • @IIMultimediaMasterII awesome. thank's

  • can i run ATI RADEON HD 5870+5850 in crossfire?

  • @CallOFwar100 yes but if u have a 5870 just go with 2x5870.. or if u have 5850 go with 2x5850.. cause it will just bottleneck the slower card

  • @franzken is cuz I want to buy a 5850 I don't want to spend more money in the 5870

    i already have a 5870

  • @CallOFwar100 i saw the 5870+5850 benchmark its almost the same as 2x5850 lol like 3% diffrerence.... my advice is 2x5870 wait for 6xxx series and the price will go down... im planning to buy another 5850 too just waiting for price drop...

  • @franzken ok so i wait for the price to drop

  • @CallOFwar100 nope

  • I dont see how you think buying 2 radeon 5850s is "not an expensive investment" the card is still 250-300 dollars, so 600 dollars for your graphics solution ALONE is not that expensive? fuck i wish i had as much money as you guys

  • i got a problem. when i play starcraft 2 or some other game my game crashes and then i get blue screen. i have updated to the lastest driver, any ideas?

  • Yeah, um... my computer can play every game out ther.

    3.25gb system memory ddr3, sapphire 4670 512mb, AMD Phenom II x3 720 black edition, WD caviar black 640GB 64mb cache, and some AM2 socket gigabyte mobo(forgot model), plays crysis on ultra high settings at 1440x900 no AA at an average 23 FPS, MW2 max settings 2x AA at about 18-25 FPS, and empire and napoleon total war max settings no AA at about 20 FPS constant.

  • hey, is it possible to run 2 different ati cards eg. asus 4600 and xfx 5770?

  • @CripEastSide nope

  • @CripEastSide You have to use two of the same card, like a sapphire 5770 and an xfx 5770, not two different models, for example a 5750 and 5770 would not run together. I have a 4670 and am going to upgrade to a 5850 within a year unless those damn 6xxx series come out. Also, unless you have the MSi fuzion mobo, you can't run an nvidia and ATI together.

  • @GoldenMurderer ic Thanks

  • @GoldenMurderer those "damn" 6xxxx series are comming out

    at the end of this year

  • @klote2314 Yeah I know, I just need some research and benchmark reviews on them before I really know if I should get a 5850 or something of the same price in the 6xxx series. I just want to know if the 5850 will take me through 2011 maybe 2012, like the 6xxx series will. So I have to wait and see.

  • @GoldenMurderer 6xxx aint so much of an upgrade ati card will release their beast cards in 2011 not this year... crossifre 5850 is the best choice for now

  • i want money!

  • can anyone tell me 5770 corssfire worth it or not.. i have a 5770vapor x now.. planning to have another one...u think it will beat the performance of 5850?

  • @KHONObakayaro just buy a sapphire vapor-x 5870, it will outperform the 5770 crossfire and you have a lower power reguirement (i have 1, on idle, stays at 30 or under ´C, annd when on load, havent gotten over 60, also good clockability)

    You wont waste so much money and you will have a good card that isint that expensive theese days (i got mine at 300€) so sell your 5770 and go buy 1.

  • @justmymage

    wow superb performance...but the price of vapor x 5770 couldnt go any higher...and i even heard that 6000 series is coming out not so soon but yea..so i thought i could hang on with the 5770 but rlly thanks for the reply..cause i would change my mind

  • @KHONObakayaro in most specs yes but for the future i would get a 5850 and get a second later for crossfire, it would pwn them, but apparently 3 hd5770 vapor x oc's in crossfire will be in a 5970 range almost

  • @MrEasternelement

    bro pls tell me this...right now im using 5770 vapor x and a silverstone 560w strider... which is corssfire certified... and im really worry bout getting a 2nd gcard which is the msi hawk 5770.. because i heard 5770 seires has lowpower consumption

  • he calls 2 5850 an investment ? i'd wait a bit more and get a 5970 ...tha's what i call an investment

  • can a single hd 5850 play 3d vision games

  • 3d vision requires u to buy a new screen 3d glasses etc so its better just to buy a very high end pc xD

  • can you use the a single hd 5850 for 3d vision gaming

  • @jeanp0190 damn u ask about the 5850 doing 3d vision alot

  • WHAT THE FUCK WHERE IS CRYSIS!

  • @YOTTR

    One 5850 can play Crysis on Very High at 1920x1080 without framerate drop except for rare moments with particle effects and enemies clogging the screen.

    Two 5850s will crush Crysis on Ultra.

  • @YOTTR crysis is not that good anymore..

  • @SkinnyMethods fuck you

  • @YOTTR

    lol truth

  • Hey Bud, do you think I will get better performance with 2 x 5850 or one 5970?

  • @kornskydiver They are nearly equal but the price is not so i suggest getting 2 x 5850.

  • @kornskydiver It has to be said that the 5970 has the performance edge, but although I know ATI cards are relatively well priced, the 5970 is kind of expensive so the two 5850's are more worth it IMO.

  • haha nvideo is fucked

  • dude cant wait to have my 2nd 5850 :D

  • WTF Batman FAIL? Good, that i havent bought this game HAHA

  • 1:15 Justin's Big idea.

    wtf

  • Hey guys please help me i have choose ati radeon hd 5850

    and 790gx mother board well which should i choose is amd phenom IIx4 955 black edition of amd phenom II x6 1090t black edition (should i buy it now or should i wait and upgrade it later).!!!!

  • @rpop996 dude 6 cores is quite a bit, id say the x6 if you really need it but if you dont go for the x4, its what i have and its a great overclocker.

  • why is it that ATI and NVIDIA can make great single cards but shit dual cards.

  • so, can i use the HIS HD 5870 icooler v Turbo and a Sapphire/HIS icooler v turbo HD 5830 in crossfire in the same pc?

  • I've been looking at the 5850, looks nice, will last a long time, but I found that the gtx 285 has double bit power.. do you really need 512 bits? And do the bits make it more future proof. (I'm looking for a budget card) Also which would work with an AMD Phenom II x2?

  • @rctwik go 5850

  • @pewpewmigoo Do you know if I could run 6 monitors with the dual 5850 crossfire setup? I trade stocks at home and need as many monitors as possible. thanks

  • @houtmaster yeah you will be able to with no problems

  • @houtmaster The Eyefinity6 version can.

  • @rctwik Phenom II X2? Please tell me you have a core unlocking mobo...

  • @TMNoob3 well it isn't such a stupid question, ibuypower are selling a 5850 and Phenom II x2 (550 i think o.o) computer, so i think they put bottlenecking in consideration. I'm gonna try and get the x4 945, 955 or 965 though depending on my budget

  • @rctwik

    As long its an AMD CPU, Im fine :P

    They aren't over priced :)

  • Tessellation is pretty good now

  • Thanks to this card i'm going to go to Africa drink some malaria pills and kick every body's ass!

    (If you don't know what i'm talking about you are not a true gamer!)

    If you know what i'm talking about THUMBS UP!

  • Do you know where to buy the HD ATI mobility RADEON 5850 or 5650

  • @coolnirdz lolololololol

  • @coolnirdz

    I know that HP Pavilion dv6z has HD5650 Mobility, I saw in amazon site.

  • i own a sapphire hd5850 it goes fine but ever since i got the card i get kernel power errors in the form of a blue screen when this happens my system locks up the only way out of this is to press the reset button

    so i will be taking this back 2 moro for a replacement

    awesome card but ild say rushed and some not built well so u will have problems companies need to stop rushing

    seems nvidia have a more stable setup drivers and cards

  • 2:07 not very expensive investment my ass, not everyone can spend 600 bucks on video cards while building a pc lol, i plan on getting one of these and i think that will be enough ;)

  • @MetalPower86 That's what you think ;) MUAHAHAHA

  • could i use 2x 5850's with a 600 watts powersupply?

  • @Tehbarrel yes but u should probably go with 650 or 750 and use one certified by ati for crossfire

  • @Tehbarrel

    Depends on your entire computer setup, but highly likely, not..

  • @Tehbarrel Considering that the minimum required supply for 1 card is 600W then no. I have  2 5850's in Crossfire mode and have a 750W Corsair PSU which is like the lowest you should go to keep at least some margin between what they need and what you can supply...

  • @no1doesitlikeme um ur a fool i have 1x 5850 and 600 watts powersupply but powersupplies arent perfect so max 80% use it will get so 480 watts requirement for 1x 5850

  • @Tehbarrel Yes but you cant buy a 480W PSU and expect to run a 5850 on it...retard. Go onto the website, like I said, the minimum you can use is a 600W supply. For two, you needn't double the number to 1200W...but 750W or above by a good brand, will do fine.

  • @Tehbarrel i got a 600w 40 dollar cheap powersupply and i run my phenom II X4 oced and my video card oced too with stock volt.. honesyly this card doesnt need a lot of wattage and runs very very cool... 58xx series FTW!!!!

  • @franzken ive got a 600w intel i5 750 oced from 2.66 to 3.4 ghz with a 5850 so i do know the 58xx series is ftw

  • @keyzin it's a mobility radeon (pile of shit) a 5750 would have similar performance. It Is only good cause of low res / small screen size. I have 5650 and it is ok but compared to even an 8800gt not amazing

  • So if i have 2 cards each with 2gb the will work togheter as 4gb?

  • ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5850 with up to 4901 MB of HyperMemory™ (1024 MB of dedicated DDR3 VRAM, up to 3067 MB of shared system memory), supporting Unified Video Decoder (UVD), OpenEXR High Dynamic-Range (HDR) technology, Shader Model 5.0, Microsoft® DirectX® 11, OpenGL® 3.1, OpenCL™ 1.1

    Dual independent display support

    only for 1 card

  • @keyzin A normal 5850 has gddr5 and probably more cores and a higher clock speed.

  • @no1doesitlikeme all 5850's have gddr5 and 1 gpu its a single processor gpu

  • @Tehbarrel No, the mobility radeon hd 5850 uses GDDR3 and I was talking about stream processor cores. Stop trying to prove me wrong, when clearly you are absolutely clueless about this kind of thing.

  • @no1doesitlikeme i see what u mean with ur name and the normal 5850 uses ddr5

  • @Tehbarrel Yes the 'normal' 5850 uses ddr5 but firstly you said 'ALL' 5850's use ddr5, which is WRONG, and secondly, we weren't talking about ALL 5850's, we were talking about the mobility version. Keep up, fucking hell.

  • which is more powerful? two 5850s crossfired or one 5870?

  • @superficialWounds of course 5850 cfx lol

  • @superficialWounds LOL two 5850 Will rape a 5870

  • @DeathHammer1994  yup and at the same price

  • @Dorisequador

    yup and more heat, more wattage using, more heat inside ur case

    with 1 5870, u oc it, u get less heat and less power consumed

  • @DeathHammer1994 well two 5870 will rape 5970 :)

  • @hellowsaw and two 5970 will rape the whole world :)

  • @DeadZone871

    3 GTX 480>that, that is if you have a 1500w power supply

  • @AznDuD333 and 4 GTX 480 is even better. If you have a 1800w+ power supply XD

  • @cvcgac

    assuming you have a motherboard big enough to support all of them while not burning your house down

  • @cvcgacYou need a psu with 1500mW,sorry W;P

  • @noobidi4848 it was sarcastic

  • @5468295 While mine was actually serious....(1500MW)

  • @cvcgac lol you dont need a 1800watt power supply to run 480's

  • @jeenormus u need dude

  • @cvcgac bot

  • @cvcgac Actually, 1500W is enough to power 4 GTX480 and a 980x..

  • @cvcgac linus had 4 gtx 480 and he used a 1500w psu. in benchmarks is just suckes 1200w out of the wall

  • @AznDuD333 1200w is enough for 4 480's lol

  • @manyakols9 nope it uses 1480w max so get a 1500w

  • @DeathHammer1994 and 2 5870 will rape a 5850 :)

  • can you crossfire a 5870 with a 5850 or any 5800 seriese card?

  • @XMtnDude yes, u can. but only 5800 cards. not 5700s or 5900s...

  • @superficialWounds

    it is possible to add any of the 5800 series with a 5970 card in a tri-fire configuration

  • I currently have a 9800GTX+ Asus GPU, and I am thinking about upgrading to a 5850 Toxic by Sapphire. Could anyone tell me if it would be well worth the upgrade?

  • @SuRihtanil Apart from the fact that the 5850 by Sapphire is like pure PORN just to look at, yes, it is worth it :)

  • any one can tell me wat the difference between xfx, gigabyte, sapphire on these ati radeon hd sereis, im planning to get a hd5670, but these xfx stuff, makes me confuse to choose

  • 5850 crossfired...........*drool*

  • 1 HD5850 is enough @ the moment!

    Check my video: /watch?v=6CaZxPhC_I8

  • "two 5850's combined is not a very expensive investment"

     YEAH SURE

  • @manutube8080 the entrance 5850 is about $250. you could build a complete system that will run any game out there for about 1600 dollars, which does include windows 7 and a case. here are the items I used. (item numbers on new egg.) N82E16811129043 N82E16822136544 N82E16820139034 N82E16813128442 N82E16832116716 N82E16819103849 N82E16814127500 N82E16827106300 Note I didn't take more than 5 minutes looking, you could find better memory and stuff and fans, but this is a general idea.
  • @manutube8080 compared to other nvidia cards and MBs, that is