made a minor mistake on the video where I said Rajm for adultery and fornication was abrogated, rather it was only abrogated for fornication not for adultery (as it says in the Torah that both fornication and adultery are punished by stoning, but this was abrogated and now only adultery is punished by stoning and fornication by 100 lashes)
You are a disgrace to the Iranian race , you have before your name that you are Sayed, well so am I, and if you are really a Seyed you have disgraced the family of the prophet. Is the money worth it?! YOU ARE ACTUALLY DEFENDING BIN LADAN????
Muta does appeal to men the same way as fornication does, sexual intercourse without the responsibilites of marriage, anyone with half a brain can see it is trying to put an islamic spin on blatant fornication, i will be allowed to have halal sexual intercourse with you until 2:45pm after which the marriage is annuled; sounds like a marriage, better yet sound halal to you?
@DestroyIsreal2009 its not your choice whats forincation and whats not, you can feel free to label some thing that the prophet and sahabah practiced as fornication but it doesnt matter what you say because the quraan is more important than your opinions. gods religion is what matters not your personal opinions. you want to talk with evidence your welcomed otherwise your opinion unsupported by anything is of no use.
Ibn Abbas (ra) supported muta. This is what the 12rs use as evidence. However, the opinion of individual sahabis is not binding on sunnis. The ahadith which state it is allowed was done after a condition. The sahaba said shall we castrate ourselves. After this it was allowed. Whereas in the Jafari fiqh as soon as you find an an attractive girl you can do muta with her. If one wants to follow the sunnah of Ahlul bayt they will control themselves. Even the Zaydis and Ismailis say its haraam.
I don't agree that's true. However, we don't agree with him. Also, this muta is a conditional marriage. Its not the same muta which the Imami shia allow. All the shias have to do is wear yellow shoes and then muta will become compulsory on them.
@Zakah1, Yes ibn abbas playing games and keeps changing his mind... I will ask you one question. The fabricated hadeeths state that the prophet made mut3a finally haraam on the 8th of Hijra, right Zakah? In (saheeh bukhari Volume 7 tradition 13a) ibn masood says the prophet allowed mut3a and he read the verse 5:87 from SURAH MAIDA, all Traditions are unanimous that Surah Maidah was revealed in 10th Hijri and it was the last or the 2nd Last Surah that was revealed. (cont)
@Zakah1 so did the prophet read the verse of sourah almaida before the 8th year of hijrah? did he read it before the verse was even revealed? or is your hadeeths through the mouths of the enemies of Ali whom have cursed him for years on the pulpits have fabricated and lied upon Ali? no no the umayah wouldn't lie upon Ali ibn shahab who worked 40 years for Umayah woudlnt lie upon Ali would he?
According to the Shia books Zuhri was actually the COMPANION of Imam Zaynul Abedeen, so how can you claim he was an ENEMY OF ALI??????
Imam Zaynul Abedeen did criticize him according to Shia books for working for the Umayyads but he never accused him of LYING so to assume that Zuhri, the friend of Imam Zaynul Abedeen was lying is ridiculous for a Shia to say because then you are claiming to know more than Imam Zaynul Abedeen
Also the narration about Mutah being Haram is narrated by other chains of narration, not just Zuhri. It is even narrated in Shia books from Ali ibn Zayd and it is narrated in Musannaf Abd al-Razzaq by another chain
@Zakah1 brother i made it simple for you... just tell us when mut3a was prohibited... all the narrations I read say not later than 8th hijri , some say khaibar, some say awtass (fath makkah) and some say tabook, khaibar is 7, awtas is 8 tabook is probably even earlier,,, yet the hadeeth in saheeh bukhari by ibn masood shows that the prophet allowed it while reading verse almaeda which was revealed 10th hijri , this proves he allowed it after the 10th ? then he died on the 11th
Mut’aa is mentioned only seven(7) times. I already posted three hadith that say’s Mut’aa was banned on the day of khaybar.
Sahih Bukhari: Volume: 5 Book: 59 Number: 526-Narrated Ibn Umar: On the day of Khaiber, Allah’s Apostle forbade the eating of garlic and the meat of donkeys.
@xxlayalixx The fabricated hadeeths state that the prophet made mut3a finally haraam on the 8th of Hijra, right Zakah? In (saheeh bukhari Volume 7 tradition 13a) ibn masood says the prophet allowed mut3a and he read the verse 5:87 from SURAH MAIDA, all Traditions are unanimous that Surah Maidah was revealed in 10th Hijri and it was the last or the 2nd Last Surah that was revealed. so did the prophet read the verse of sourah almaida before the 8th year of hijrah? (cont)
@xxlayalixx did he read it before the verse was even revealed? or is your hadeeths through the mouths of the enemies of Ali whom have cursed him for years on the pulpits have fabricated and lied upon Ali? no no the umayah wouldn't lie upon Ali ibn shahab who worked 40 years for Umayah woudlnt lie upon Ali would he?
@shorty40merza Allah (swt) also tells us to control our desires. The fatwa ibn Abbas (ra) gave is allowed under conditions. However, the 12rs shias if they see a good looking women they can run after her and do muta.
@shorty40merza We don't agree with Ibn Abbas (ra) in this area. As for defense, just because someone is wrong this does not mean we believe they are lying. Remember Ibn Abbas (ra) also differed with Imam Ali (as) in his lifetime. An example of this is found in Nahj al Balagha letter 41.
@DefendDeen i wasn't arguing ibn abbas' opinion read again please, i asked a simple question. when was mut3a prohibited? which year of hijrah? secondly ibn abbas was arguing with abdullah ibn Alzubair and ibn abbas was with Ali and Abdulah was the enemy of Ali in the war of jamal and Ibn abbas was not saying his opinion. he was saying that its the prophet's order that's why he said " i swear it was being practiced in the time of the prophet" go on my page and watch the documentary of 4 parts
@shorty40merza I don't have any defense for Abdullah ibn Zubair. What he did was wrong. However, you need to bring proof that Imam Ali (as) allowed Muta in Sunni books. The letter 41 in Nahj al Balagha shows that Abdullah ibn Abbas withdrew from Imam Ali's (as) government after. I am aware ibn Abbas (ra) did say it was halaal, but I believe Imam Ali (as) too differed with him.
@DefendDeen in tafseer fakhr aldeen alrazy imam Alis famous saying was reported under the tafseer of 4:24 that imam Ali said " if Umar did not prohibit mut3a then no one would commmit fornication except the very evil" Also please read the other post that i made to you about the timing of the prohibition and tell me if you have and answer, because we have evidence from bukhari that prove muta was allowed after the year 10 of alhijrah and all the prohibition claims are no later than 8th
@shorty40merza Give me that chain narration of that ahadith because that statement goes against Aql. If that was true, Iran wouldn't have a prostitution problem. However, there are many 12r Shia prostitutes in Iran today because of the permissibility of muta. As for you quoting bukhari, I already told you that we disagree with the sahabas who agreed with it. Muta was never allowed expect under some conditions
@DefendDeen prostitution is not because of permissibility of muta. actually its because of the prohibition of muta and polygamy. if Muta and polygamy is allowed you will not have prostitutes. Ali said: "everytime one door of halal is closed a 1000 doors of Haraam are opened up". Can i say because of the bidahs of misyar and zawaj friend and misyaf and bynyat altalaq that the sunnie world is full of prostitutes? No its not true same with muta
@DefendDeen This hadeeth that I told you is not from Sahabah. Its from the prophet so do you disagree with the prophet too just so that you make Umar right? Ibn Masood saying the prophet allowed us Muta and read 5:87 which means this event happened after 10th of hijrah because 5:87 was reveald in the 10th year of hijrah.. Now all the claims of prohibition say it was in khaibar or awtas or fath and all those events are before 8th of hijrah. this means the prohibitions are lies.
it doesnt say that the Prophet (saw) recited that Ayah, it says that the NARRATOR recited it and in fact its only mentioned in ONE VERSION of the narration so it obviously wasnt from the Prophet (saw)
@Zakah1 Doesn't matter the prophet read the verse or ibn masood the proof regardless of who recited that verse is that it was already revealed at that time which means this hadeeth took place after 10th alhijrah because 5:87 Almaida is the last sourah and was revealed in 10th alhijrah. All the other claims that say it was prohibited happened before the 8th year of hijrah so this proves that they are lies because in 10th alhijrah it was still allowed according to this bukhari hadeeth..
it does matter WHO recited the verse because thats the entire point. In fact it wasnt even ibn Masood it was just ONE OF THE NARRATORS and the other chains dont mention the Ayah
Also ibn Masood himself was later convinced that its Haram as I explained on the video. It is narrated from Ibn Masood himself that he said Temporary Marriage was ABROGATED in Musannaf Abd al-razzaq and other early Hadith books
@shorty40merza I waiting for you to give me a chain narration from Sunni books which connects to Imam Ali (as). Can you do this ? I don't want the views of the other sahaba.
@DefendDeen also note that fakhr alrazy and qurtoby mention that 4:24 was revealed about muta but this guy claims that muta is not in the quraan and if muta is in the quraan then only another quraan verse can abrogate it. and fakhr alrazy brings a hadeeth from imran bin hussain: " that muta was revealed in gods book and no quran came down to prohibit it then a man said his own opinion (Umar)" go to my channel and watch the 4 parts documentary i put all the chain of narrations
you just proved that you havent even watched part 1 of my video, then you claim to have refuted it???? I just proved on this video that Imran bin Hussain was talking about Mut'ah al-Hajj not Temporary Marriage, so you are just proving the point I made on this video
And yes as I explained on parts 7 and 8, some Sonni scholars like Ibn Kathir did wrongly think that 4:24 was in the Quran but they thought it was abrogated
@Zakah1 lol brother come on man I am many steps ahead of you in this research, I know bukhari tried to shift this and he put imran's hadeeth under muta of hajj but Fakhr aldeen alrazy put it under Muta of marriage when he did tafseer of 4:24 in his book altafseer alkabir. and even if it was about muta of hajj it proves that Umar is making bidahs in the religion and changing the religion doesn't it? it says " a man (umar) said his own opinion" and his opinion was against the religion
since when has fakhraddin razi become the leader of ahlussunnah? I explained on the video that the Hadith is about Hajj, Im not basing this on just Imam Bukhari putting it in a different chapter, I explained based on the narration itself that its about Hajj, in fact some versions SAY that its about Hajj, WATCH THE VIDEO, at least watch part 1 before claiming that you're "ahead of me" in your "research"
@shorty40merza Would you allow me to Muta your sister for the long weekend? Money is not an issue, just name your price. If things go smooth, i'll come back for more. Who needs marriage or polygamy when right...Hey don't be mad at me, its your belief. If you find it offensive, don't hate me, hate the ones that taught you these things.
@SMLIPRT marrying my sister is not something in my hand its between you and her,, her father has guardianship over her if she is not Rashida and mut3a is for people who believe in it not people who believe its haraam and also mut3a is when your conditions force you to not stay together permanently or for people to use it as an engagement or tahreem but decent girls want only one man so they dont divorce or go into mut3a just for sampling or playing . you can do mut3a with corrupted girls
@Zakah1 Its not only ibn katheer who "mistakenly" said 4:24 is talking about muta but qurtoby and fakhr alrazy both made the same "mistake" according to you? So you are saying the three most prominent sunnie mufasereen giving muta as the sabab alnozool for 4:24 are mistaken? they are basing thier opinions on strong narration what state this verse was revealed for muta so what are you basing your tafseer on?
@shorty40merza You first said it was Imam Ali (as) who said it. Now you are saying its Imran ibn Hussain ? Why are you lying ? It is because you can do taqiyah ? I am want the chain narration from Sunnis books where Imam Ali (as) said its halaal.
@DefendDeen i found the chain of narration for this hadeeth in Tafseer altabary:
mohamad bin muthana, moahmad bin jafar, shuba, fro malhakam he said i asked about the verse 4:24 is it abrogated? Ali said " if Umar did ont prohibit muta no one woudl commit zina except the very evil"
@shorty40merza Again this is just people who supposedly said it. This is not a chain narration. A chain goes like this " I heard from my father who narrated from who narrated who narrated from...
What you posted is only the first narrator. What I need is the chain which reaches the initial narrator.
@DefendDeen oh my god , come one man, the chain is exactly like what you say but I summarized it because the post doesn't fit so I just mentioned the name of the people in the chain. is it important to mention "I heard from my father" and stuff like that??? the Isnad is only the people involved in the chain not what they say. please Dont deny the truth using lame excuses I mean would tabary put a chain which is faulty?
@shorty40merza Brother, a chain narration is important. I mean in your own books there is ahadith which states don't wear black sandals, and to wear yellow ones because it gives you an organism. Guess what Shaykh Saduq attributed it to Imam Sadeq (as). Also on top of that there are mullahs in Iran wearing yellow sandals. Can you now see why Ilm-e-rijal is important ? If you cannot provide a chain then you are just copying and pasting.
@DefendDeen sorry I don't know what they mean by black sandal giving them organism, and I dont have information or knowledge about this hadeeth and its content, I dont deny Ilm Alrijal is important but here we are not in a position to study the chain that Tabary brought in his Tafseer so I just mentioned the names of the rijal of the chain. you need to watch the documentary I made and comment on that just type in search " temporary marriage in sunnie saheeh books" 4 parts
@shorty40merza Brother I posted a video on the sunnah of yellow sandals from your books made by a brother. It has chains too. watch?v=FE1aAMGBHV4 If you inviting me to not control myself, and freely do muta then you should bring full proof. As for positions, if you can't meet the demands then don't tell me muta is halaal until you can prove Imam Ali (as) allowed it from Sunni books. I want to see the full chain here. The 12th Imam did not appoint you, therefore I can disagree with you.
that narration is false and you can tell just by reading it. Why would Ali say "if Umar had not forbidden it" when according to the same narration Ali said this when he was in KUFAH and we know Ali was the Caliph when he was in Kufah so why didnt Ali make it Halal when he himself was the ruler????? The narration makes no sense and is an insult not just to Omar but also an insult to Ali too!!
@Zakah1 Ali allowed Muta, and Hasan allowed it and Hussain allowed it and they all allowed it but how would you know their opinion if you don't narrate from them? you follow their enemies so why do you pretend to know their opinions? many people did not take Umars Bidah. Remember Umar had other Bidahs too, he prohibited the Muta of Hajj and even sunnies didnt follow that bidah. He also changed the triple divorce into one and unfortunately the sunnies followed that bidah.
actually even Shia clerics admit that Ali did NOT allow Mutah when he was the ruler, but their excuse is that Ali was supposedly doing "Taqiyyah" which is their excuse for everything
Show me where it says that when Ali was the ruler he allowed people to do Mutah??? Where does it say it? Stop making things up out of nowhere
We Sonnis are the true supporters of Ali, the Shias are followers of the Monafiqeen who betrayed Ali in Kufah and betrayed Hussain in Karbala
@DefendDeen just go through all your hadeeths that say it was prohibited and tell me in which year it was prohibited? youll find all say no later than 8th hijri, now I have evidence from bukhari that it was allowed after 10th hijri? (saheeh bukhari Volume 7 tradition 13a) ibn masood says the prophet allowed mut3a and he read the verse 5:87 from SURAH MAIDA, all Traditions are unanimous that Surah Maidah was revealed in 10th Hijri and it was the last or the 2nd Last Surah that was revealed
Mutah was allowed during the time of PROPHET saw, It was abondoned during the time of UMAR: so do you rather follow Sunnah of PROPHET or UMAR ? :) Mutah is stated in the Qur'an,, Allah stw says: "Do not make Unlawful the things that I made Lawful for you." :)
No the Prophet (saw) said it is HARAM, it was abrogated during the time of the Prophet (saw) himself, that is what this video explains, WATCH IT before commenting
Omar (ra) simply told people its haram who had not heard from the Prophet (saw)
Ali ibn abi Talib (ra) also said Mutah is Haram, so did many other of the Sahabah
Even those who said it is Halal later changed their mind, such as Ibn Abbas (ra) and IBn masood (ra)
Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Sunan Tirmidhi, Sunan Ibn Majah and many many other sources that:
'Ali (r.a) said: the Prophet forbade the temporary marriage ( Mu'ta) of women, as well as the eating of the flesh of domestic donkies on the day of Khaybar.
@Zakah1 you forgot to mention that this narration is narrated through the mouths of the enemies of Ali , Ibn Shahab alzahry worked for the umayah government for 40 years and he is in the chain... so he has every reason to lie about him.
also: Rabi bin Sabra on the Authority of his father: 'Allah's Messenger said: "I had permitted you the temporary marriage of women, but Allah has prohibited you from that till the day of Resurrection. So if anyone has a woman by temporary marriage he should let her go; and do not take back any of your gifts from them." {Sahih Muslim)
it is an Arabic word which means ENJOYMENT, it can sometimes mean Temporary marriage depending on the context
The Quran says for example that people who go to Hell enjoyed (mutah) the life of this world... and uses the word MUTAH for enjoy, so if you are going to say that the word always means Temporary marriage then you would have to say that people who do Temporary Marriage will go to HELL!!!
So by your own logic anyone who does it will go to Hell !!!
very well said my brother..... by researching from some of the Sahih books... which are already discredit some of Hadis by being fabricated or unclear but books of history do records them.... Anyways, anything from the holy Quran?
Also, is it possible that you are from Afghanistan grown up in the west!
Brother Zakah1,with all due respect,can you anwser this please; If something is written in the holy Quraan and is made lawful and there is no verse in the Quraan that later makes it unlawful,then how can it become unlawful? Don't you think that if our beloved nabi s.a.w made it unlawful then it would be in the Quraan because our nabi s.a.w would have receieved a revelation from Allah s.w.t,or do you believe that our nabi s.a.w just decided to make it unlawful.Also is there anything written in t
The Messenger of Allah had forbidden Mutah on the day of Khaybar and had forbidden the eating of the meat of domestic camels. [Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmizy, Ibn Majah, Nasa`i, Tahawy, Shafii, Bayhaqy, and Hazimy]
Ali (رضّى الله عنه) said to a man who was engaging in Mutah:
You are a straying person, the Messenger of Allah has forbidden temporary marriage and the meat of domestic camels on the day of Khaybar. [Muslim and Bayhaqy]
@MuhammadAhmad1 just go through all your hadeeths that say it was prohibited and tell me in which year it was prohibited? youll find all say no later than 8th hijri, now I have evidence from bukhari that it was allowed after 10th hijri? (saheeh bukhari Volume 7 tradition 13a) ibn masood says the prophet allowed mut3a and he read the verse 5:87 from SURAH MAIDA, all Traditions are unanimous that Surah Maidah was revealed in 10th Hijri and it was the last or the 2nd Last Surah that was revealed
When Ali was given the Caliphate, he thanked Allah Most High and praised Him and said:
O people, the Messenger of Allah had permitted Mutah three times then forbade it. I swear by Allah, ready to fulfil my oath, that if I find any person who engages in temporary marriage without having ratified this with a proper marriage, I will have him lashed 100 stripes unless he can bring two witnesses to prove that the Messenger had permitted it after forbidding it. [Ibn Majah]
Imran Ibn Husain narrated: "The verse of Mut'a (4:24) was revealed in Allah's Book, and there did NOT came any other verse after that to abrogate it; and the Prophet ORDERED US to do it, so we did it at the time of Allah's Apostle, and he did not forbade us from it till he died. But a man (who regarded it illegal) expressed what his own mind suggested." Tafsir al-Kabir, by al-Tha'labi, under commentary of verse 4:24 of Quran
Also many Sunni commentary books mentioned similar to the tradition of Sahih al-Bukhari (see part II) with more details and put it under the verse 4:24 of Quran:
Do u know how Umar Ibn katib's son Abdallah was born? He was born while Umar was in battle, at that time Umar was in a mut'a or temporary marriage. Then Umar wants to go and say its not allowed? Many prominent sunni scholars have done tafsir of chapter 4 verse 24 They claim it means mut'a or temporary marriage is permissable. Allah (swt) clearly states temporary marriage is ok. NOW U WANT TO TELL ME OTHERWISE! Bounce.
You know nothing- sunnis have a temporary marriage called 3orfah, why do you deny it?? Obviously you were never a muslim, and now you are a sunni kaffir.
You're respect and love for a witch like aisha shows you inherited her hate for the Prophet's family. Monkey see, monkey do. She used to bark at the Propeht's family, just as you bark at us for following them. She was a liar, a snake, an accused adultress, and you love all this about her, says alot about your cult. You are not Muslim. Kaffirs
@Zakah1 correction Zakah urfi is not a marriage without contract, contract is always compulsory in any valid marriage, Urfi is just the fact that the marriage is not announced, announcing the marriage is not compulsory but only mustahab. the contract is verbal and the written stuff is not compulsory but for sunnies the witnesses are compulsory. Misyar is when the woman gives up her rights to the nafaqah and others stuff and also secret. Binyat altalaq allowed by binbaz is exactly like mut3a
And since this about temporary marriage, which by the way- this video isnt by a "former" Shia. There is NO such thing as a "former" Shia. No one who is Muslim reverts to sunni.
Anyway- why dont you discuss your 3orfah? you know what that is? it's an arabic word, so no you wouldnt, or pretend not to. It's sunni temporary marriage. Go look it up. See if you can find it translated into paki.
Uffffffffffffff, how you wanna be's bark. just like aisha used to.
Firstly I am a former Shia and I know much more about Shiism than you do. Secondly I am not Pakistani.
Thirdly Sunnis have no temporary marriage, temporary marriage is HARAM in ISLAM only Shias allow it
Shias pretend like misyar and some other things are somehow similar to temporary marriage when in fact there is no similarity
and your hatred of Aisha the wife of the Prophet (pbuh) proves that you are an enemy of Islam and the Qur'an because the Quran says she is the mother of believers
Panther6170 ....your imam zamana used to bark like a dog ...he was the most famous shia mutah pimp ever ..he used to pimp 12th imams(dajjals) mom ...happy now?
ok, so if I go somewhere that no one is willing to marry me except prostitutes temporarily, I can do mut'ah with them???
the more you argue the more you prove mut'ah is valid because your apologist arguments are weak. your arogance puts your credibility in question. You know more than all ayatollahs and shia scholars? LOL. If you don't know every Ayatollah how can you say you know more than them?
You are obsessed in trying to disprove mut'ah. The more you try to disprove the more you prove!
Before it was abrogated, it could be done under all those conditions, but now it is abrogated so you cant do Mut'ah at all anymore.
It was only allowed for 3 days, I have explained all this on the video and refuted the arguments of Shias.
According to 2 Sunni Hadiths and 1 Shiah Hadith Ali ibn Abi Talib said that Temporary Marriage is abrogated, as did at least 10 of the Sahabah, just watch the video
4:24 of the Qur'an clearly states mut'ah is valid, revealed in Madinah. No Meccan verse can abrogate that. Mut'ah is an open negotiable marriage contract. Islamic conventional marriage follows a patriarchal model but mut'ah doesn't. Mut'ah is better for women who do not want to be married in such a way that they are lower than men. Mut'ah can give a woman equal power and responsibility. It empowers women if a woman is intelligent enough to negotiate conditions in her favor. Mut'ah is amaz
4:24 is NOT about Mut'ah, watch parts 7, 8 and 9 of the video, I explained in great detail why the Ayah is NOT about Mut'ah.
The Ayah does NOT say anything about marriage being "temporary", it is actually about Mihr.
And Mut'ah doesnt "empower women", it makes them into whores, especially the Shia version of Mut'ah (Mut'ah was abrogated but the Shia Mut'ah is NOT EVEN the same thing as the practice that was abrogated, it is much worse as I explain on other posts)
to zakah1, this dastarkhan has been attended by me and my family many a time and I am a witness to the miracles of various ayats, etc which were written with sattu, as well as thumb impressions on various fruits.
In one such dastarkan a long ayat was written with sattu which was seen by all those present. there are numerous miracles which were seen by various shias.
your words are of no more value to me than the claims of Catholics about their saints performing miracles in their shrines.
Or Hindus and others making similar claims.
Anyway if your Imams help you when you ask them, then as I said, watch this video and refute everything I said on it with their help, surely your Imams must want to help you defend a practice which you claim they preached.
to zakah 1, it does not matter if you do not value my words, A fact does not need any one's acceptance, Miracle of Imams(as) are different from other illusions, I have already quoted "nahjul balagha" and for your satisfaction I will refer other books apart from nahjul balagha and reply shortly.
to zakah1, the holy prophet said "awalona mohammad, ausatona mohammad, akhirona mohammad, kullona mohammad" for the 12 Imams, and also that I and ALI are 2 parts of one piece of noor. and there are various suras and ayats that have been sent in praise of our Imams (as). and 'fact' in my reply means miracles of Imam (as).
how will you remove the suras and ayats revealed in the praise of ahlebaith/ Imams (as)?
Firstly we dont believe in your "Hadith". Your Hadith books were written over a 100 years after Sunni Hadith books, its obvious that Shiah narrations are mostly fabrocated. Even your scholars of Hadith like allameh majlesi admited that your "most authentic book" Al-Kafi has over 11000 narrations in it that are not authentic.
As for the ahlul bayt, we Sunnis love them and respect them, we just dont exaggerate their status. In fact I myself am a descendent of Hossein ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib (ra).
to zakah1, whether you accept shia books or not is your own opinion.
my friends visited agra and saw the cell in which a prominent shia scholar was imprisoned by the tyrant aurangazeb, during his reign. still the cell holds the writings of the scholar which were written by him in his own blood, at one place he has written that he wanted the future generations of shias to know the good qualities and miracles of Imam Ali (as), this is the way in which hadiat reached us.
By the way kaffir-- The Qu'ran was written in ARABIC, delievered in ARABIC, to the Prophet (SWA), who was ARAB, He is NOT your Prophet, as a matter of fact no Prophet was Pakistinian, so you need to shut up.You couldnt understand the Prophet if he asked you what time it was, but you think you can define Islam to an ARAB??? Go find your own religion. Islam is not yours. Go back to worshipping cows or monkeys, or whatever. Thank God I'm an Arab who inherited her religion from ARABS, you wanna be.
:) Im a Pashtoon, before Islam we were jews!! Now we r muslims!! The prophet(SAW) in Khutba-e-hijat-al-wida clearly meant that Islam was not only for Arabs n u should learn bout Islam!! Shiaz r nothing but a hatred group of historical ethnicity!! Wa atiulah wa atiurRasool
refer to da hadit of Prophet(SAW) > umAlMomineen n den go n prove da Prophet(SAW) wrong n prove ur 12.. Imams correct!! If Prophet(SAW) is wrong I will quit Islam other than following ur Imams!! specially Abdullah ibne saba
Thats da problem, u think that heaven or hell, relegion n all r inherited n this makes u a contractor of Islam!! I know shiaz r bred wid hatred n cursing n i know they r taught to say Lanat on everyone!! From where did u get ur Kalima?? Who modified ur Adhan? why? which imam told u to establish Hussainia n worship his pictures n Idols?? I dont see Islam here!!
The problem IS people like you who have no business in Islam. Simple. You are tolerated, not accepted. How dare YOU non-Arab, who just converted 5 minutes ago, spew your brainwashed garbage about REAL Muslims. You have no business deciding what is Islam and what isnt. You chose kaffirs over the PURE. You change the word of God, you manipulate Islam to serve your political agendas.
You not only WERE jews, you still are. You're not arab, be quiet.
LOL- he picks up a few Arab Islamic words, and now thinks he's a Islamic Scholar. Let me ask something that MY Prophet could ask you.. Shoo Ismaak? you cant answer and why? because you dont understand what he said. Same with you and Islam, YOu dont understand so you make it up as u go, same as your sahabah did. They didnt understand the purpose of Islam, they thought it was a way to line their pockets with money, and further their positions, even if that meant selling their daughters at age 9.
I dont believe Islam legalises prostitution by naming it Muta!! it was 4 some time wen taking liquor was allowed but gradually banned!! So was Muta!! but if u still want to we can muta!!
The opinion of non arabs on an Arab religion is as meaningful as the opinion about nuclear physics by a plumber. When a non arab non muslim sunni/wahabi speaks of Islam, he should have his tongue cut out and be hung by it.
to Zakah1, Miracle of Imam (as), on 10th moharram, many shias world wide, perform matam with knifes, swords, blades, and other sharp weapons, and cut themselves out of their love for Imam Hussain(as) and his companions. stil they dont feel the pain that they would have endured in ordinary circumstances. this is in itself a present day miracle which is viewed year after year.
Firstly this practice, aside from being against Islam and barbaric, was actually adobted from Pagans (the idol worshippers of Iraq practiced this before Shiahs) this practice has nothing to do with Islam, it is a Bid'ah and a very harmful and evil one at that
As for Shiahs not feeling pain I know this is not true, I used to be Shiah and I know everyone who even beat their chests felt pain. How do you know they dont feel pain?
If you want to prove that your Imams help you when you ask them for help, then ask them to help you refute everything on this video.
If you succeed then you have proven your claim, if not then it is clear that Shiism is false, both in regards to the "12 Imams" as well as Temporary Marriage.
By the way, its not enough to point out a few small mistakes in the video, you must be able to refute it all.
to zakah1, In Nahjul balagha page 1545, this is a very old edition and is divided in volumes, this narration is in other editions of nahjul balaga. in english and urdu editions, it is narrated that Hazrat Ali (as) stated that "verily the people of hell would be fairly less due to illegitimate sex, if Omer had not prohibited muta" whether you or other sunnis accept it or not.
how does this refute my video? I already stated that Shiahs have narrations in their books in support of Mutah and have fabricated them
The video refutes all the Shiah arguments, it proves that a hadith that Says Mutah is Haram is true based on Shia or Sunni mentality, proves the Hadith fits in with Qur'an, proves Temporary Marriage was abrogated through the Quran, proves Omar didnt make it haram that shiahs lie and much more
Yu really need to WATCH the video before attempting to refute it
to zakah1,ALLAH (the great and the glorified)has permitted every person to follow what ever he/she belives, I would like you not to spread lies about our Holy Imams (as) or associating a satun like dajjal as our Imam. Many shias during the rule of bani-ommiah, bani-abbas sacrificed families, wealth, and even their lives so that true faith reaches their decendents, before commenting like this read some facts or listen to lectures of unbiased sunnis.
Well if you had just spent a few seconds watching the video on which you are commenting you would see that I used to be a Shiah
I was Shiah until about 5 years ago and I know more about Shiism than most Shiahs
I have listened to hundreds of Shiah lectures, read hundreds of books written by Shiahs and I personally decided to leave Shiis after learning the truth, no one converted me
InshaAllah I will make more videos exposing Shiism in detail in the future, for now at least watch this video
to zakah1, I have watched your video time and again after seeing your video i refered various books and in nahjul balgha I had seen the comment of Imam Ali(as), and that ends the matter for me. as i consider Nahjul balga to be more authentic then your video, I am commenting on your comments, whether you convert into a sunni or accept any religion of your choice, your selection is immaterial for me, as you were posting things against the Holy Imams (as)it was my duty to comment on it.
Firstly nahjul balaqah is not even an authentic book, it doesnt even have Isnad.
Yes there are many narrations in Shiah books that say mut'ah is Halal, but they CONTRADICT other narrations in both Shia and Sunni books which say Ali (ra) said Mut'ah is HARAM.
Your scholars simply CHOOSE to believe that Mut'ah is halal because they like prostitution
to zakah1, there is a difference between muta and prostitution, after performing muta children born out of such wedlock is legal and the persons involved in muta are not sinners.
Prostitution is a crime, a gunah e kabeera, where the sinners are prescribed strict punishment. both are different and there is no comparision among them. even the children born out of prostitution are illegitimate.
The mut'a that Shias do is prostitution, it is 100% Zina.
The Mut'a that was practiced during the beginning of Islam and was abrogated was VERY DIFFERENT, inshaAllah I will make a video soon to explain.
For example the original mut'a could not be done if you already had a wife, and it could not be done with minors (under 9 years) and it could only be done if someone was on an expedition and couldnt marry.
None of these laws are in the Shiah Muta. so the Shia Mut'a is Zina.
look, I have read Khomeinis Risalah, and the fatwa of Sistani and others, I KNOW what are the "rules" of Mut'ah according to Shias.
The Shia rules are NOT the original rules, which is why the Shia Mut'a is ZINA and Prostitution or even worse.
The original Mut'a was of course ABROGATED (watch [parts 7 and 8 and 9 of my video for proof) but that Mut'a was DIFFERENT from Shia Mut'a, so Shias are not just doing something that was abrogated, Shias are doing something MUCH worse
to Zakah1, as far as your issue of dajjal is concerned he is not at all remotely connected to us the shias, Our Imam (qaime-e-aal-e-mohammad)is in Ghaibat, and shall come when he is permitted by ALLAH (the great and the glorified)along with Hazrat Isa (pubh), we are not fools to be tricked by dajjal and his ilk into thinking that he is our Imam, all this is figment of imagination of sunnis, who dont have an Imam to look after them, after their qhulfa-e-rashideen.
Dajjal is hidden and appears to certain people, just like Shiahs believe their Hidden Imam appears to some of them... coincidence?
Imam Askari (whom you call the 11th Imam) did not even have a son, the Jewish worshippers of Dajjal invented the lie that he had a son as an excuse to bring Dajjal into Islam and in the end they invented Shiism.
Shiism is the religion of the Dajjal, in fact the Prophet (saw) prophecised that Dajjal's followers will be in IRAN!
to zakah 1, the 11th Imam (as) had a son our next Imam (as)and at the time of the demise of the 11th Imam (as) the Imam of namaz-e-janaza was his son the current Imam, Hazrat Imam Mehdi (as), as a namaz e janaza of an Imam(as) is prayed only by the next Imam (as), hence your data gathered on Our 12th Imam (as)is based on the jewish belives, dajjal will not pray to ALLAH, and perform miracles by taking the name of ALLAH. as Our Imam showed various miracles before and after his ghaibat.
Shias take their belives from their Imams directly and refer to authentic sources as secondry data for belives. whether Saba from whom you claim is the source of belif for shias was a mushrik, and was killed by hazrat Ali(as) this is unknown to me and so I cannot comment on this issue. for us the shias the base of our belives are our Holy Imam(as).
Firsly none of our history books were even written during the time of Muawiyyah, lol.
Shiahs take their beliefs from people who NARRATE from people whom you call "Imams", you dont take it DIRECTLY from them, you narrate the same way we Sunnis NARRATE from the Prophet (saw).
But Shiahs narrate through heretics like Mofazzal and Zurarah ibn Ayyan who even according to Shiah sources were CURSED by Imam Ja'far Sadiq.
to zakah1, you claim that sunnis follow Hazrat Ali(as) if that is the case then the very basic conflict between shias and sunnis would have ended. Shias accepted hazrat Ali(as)as the immediate successor of the prophet, even before ghadeer this was declared by the prophet.
hazrat Ali (as) never accepted the qilafat of the 3 sahabas, to avoid praying behind hazrat Ali(as) the muslims of his time started saying their prayers before the appointed time, ie before sunset and just before snrise.
Shiahs are not followers of Ali, they just claim to be. Shiism actually originated from Abdollah ibn Saba, a Mushrik who pretended to support Ali (ra) but Ali (ra) himself killed him.
Shiahs take their beliefs from books like Osool al-Kafi that narrate Hadith from the followers of Abdollah ibn Saba and attribute them to Ali (ra) and the rest of Ahlul bayt.
Also Ali (ra) accepted the Caliphate of Abu Bakr (ra) Omar (ra) and Uthman (ra),in fact he was their Minister and advisor.
to Zakah1, I dispute your claim, in its totality, Hazrat Ali(as) was the immediate successor of the holy prophet(pubh) from the day of declaration till the day of Jujdement (qiyamath), If hazrat Ali(as) would have accepted the three qulaf-e-rasedeen (the elected ones)we would have accepted them as our Qalifas, if that would have been the case there would not have been any major dispute among shias and sunnis, which is not the case.
your historians were bribed by Mavia(La)to change history.
Shiahs changed the time of Prayer themselves, Ali (ra)NEVER did so
The Prophet (saw) said (narrated by Mustadrak al-Hakim) that the followers of the Dajjal (antichrist) will pray 3 times instead of 5 and that is what the Shiahs did (Shiahs pray Zuhr and Asr together and Maghrib and Isha together)
So Shiahs will join the Dajjal when he comes and I believe the hidden twelth "imam" of the Shiahs is in fact the Dajjal and not the real Mahdi, Dajjal tricked Shiash into thinking he is their Imam
Sunnis changed the time of prayer, Hazrat Ali(as) and his followers did not change the followed the time set by the Holy Prophet Mohammad(pubh), the sunnis changed time to avoid praying behind Hazrat Ali(as), as they wanted to pray behind their elected leaders.
Regarding praying 3 times, we shias pray 5 times, during Haj even the present day sunni Imans who lead the prayer of Haj club zohar and asar and maghrib and Ishaa and pray 3 times, even though they are there for the whole day.
The Prophet (Saw) also said the followers of Dajjal would try to appear more religious than the true Muslims by fasting longer (to trick Muslims into thinking they are better for fasting longer).
And of course Shiahs fast 15 minutes or so longer than Sunnis.
Shiahs=followers of Dajjal
The person whom your scholars contact is not Imam Mahdi or the "12th Imam", he is the Dajjal.
to Zakah1, When you were a shia, before your 'enlightment' may be you had the privelage of meeting/obtaining belives from dajjal, since my birth till date, I have seen the miracles of the Holy Imams(as)the direct decendents of the Holy prophet (pubh), even my maternal forefathers who were syeds (najeeb-ud-tarfain) and shia scholars one from Iraq and another from Iran (keeper of keys of Rauza of Imam Raza (as)) spoke about various miracles of the Imams. you are free to belive what you want.
I have not seen any of their so called "miracles", Catholics also claim that their dead saints perform miracles and like the Shiah they never prove it.
Catholic priests make up stories the same way Shiah clerics do.
I have been to the Haram of "Imam Reza", I saw sick people asking him for help without ever being cured, I saw crazy people screaming for help until they passed out. There were no miracles.
Read my comment once again, we shias follow the actions of the prophet, as he receited naad-e-ali as directed by ALLAH the great and the glorified. You are free to hate Hazrat Ali, as it will not affect his status and glory.
As far as your comment on Iraq war is concerned someone wins and someone looses it has nothing to do with the authority and power of Hazrat Ali(as), yes shias are helped by hazrat Ali(as) and it is a question of faith.
Firstly Sunnis not only love Ali (ra), we also follow what he said , unlike the Shiahs who only love calling upon his name but whose actions are worse than the Khawarij and other enemies of Ali (ra).
The Qur'an forbids calling upon others besides Allah (swt) so your Shiah beliefs are contrary to the Qur'an and this proves that Shiism is not Islam.
Also this Ayah: "And who is more astray than one who calls (invokes) besides Allah, such as will not answer him till the Day of Resurrection; and who are (even) unaware of their calls (invocations) to them? And when mankind are gathered (on the Day of Resurrection), they (false deities) will become enemies for them and will deny their worshipping."
This Noble verse was revealed to Christians and Jews who called upon Nebi Uzair (AS) and Nebi Isa (AS) to directly help them as if the Prophets were Gods.
We on the other hand do not ask Imam Ali (AS) to help us directly but ask him to pray to Allah for us.
We give Du'a to none but Allah as he tells us to do so in the final revelation of Allah Almighty, the Noble Qur'an.
I do not give Du'a to Imams or anyone except Allah.
made a minor mistake on the video where I said Rajm for adultery and fornication was abrogated, rather it was only abrogated for fornication not for adultery (as it says in the Torah that both fornication and adultery are punished by stoning, but this was abrogated and now only adultery is punished by stoning and fornication by 100 lashes)
Zakah1 6 months ago
You are a disgrace to the Iranian race , you have before your name that you are Sayed, well so am I, and if you are really a Seyed you have disgraced the family of the prophet. Is the money worth it?! YOU ARE ACTUALLY DEFENDING BIN LADAN????
Hafez21hafez21 7 months ago
Just show where the command of abrogation came, no heresy please .Show proof of abrogation.Same word Mutah.
We know there is a differnce, it is when the word of Mutah is contested.
shanokhala 10 months ago
@shanokhala
watch the rest of the video, Ali (ra), Ibn Omar (ra), Sabra al-juhanni (ra), Ayeshah (ra) and many others said that it was abrogated
the abrogation came from the Prophet (saw) himself who originally allowed it
also verse 24 of Surah al-Nisa has nothing to do with temporary marriage as explained on the video
Zakah1 9 months ago
Just show where the command of abrogation came, no heresy please .Show proof of abrogation.
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xxlayalixx 1 year ago
Muta does appeal to men the same way as fornication does, sexual intercourse without the responsibilites of marriage, anyone with half a brain can see it is trying to put an islamic spin on blatant fornication, i will be allowed to have halal sexual intercourse with you until 2:45pm after which the marriage is annuled; sounds like a marriage, better yet sound halal to you?
DestroyIsreal2009 1 year ago
@DestroyIsreal2009 its not your choice whats forincation and whats not, you can feel free to label some thing that the prophet and sahabah practiced as fornication but it doesnt matter what you say because the quraan is more important than your opinions. gods religion is what matters not your personal opinions. you want to talk with evidence your welcomed otherwise your opinion unsupported by anything is of no use.
shorty40merza 1 year ago
Ibn Abbas (ra) supported muta. This is what the 12rs use as evidence. However, the opinion of individual sahabis is not binding on sunnis. The ahadith which state it is allowed was done after a condition. The sahaba said shall we castrate ourselves. After this it was allowed. Whereas in the Jafari fiqh as soon as you find an an attractive girl you can do muta with her. If one wants to follow the sunnah of Ahlul bayt they will control themselves. Even the Zaydis and Ismailis say its haraam.
DefendDeen 2 years ago
evenn ibn abbas (ra) later changed his mind and said its haram (as narrated in sunan tirmidhi)
Zakah1 2 years ago
I don't agree that's true. However, we don't agree with him. Also, this muta is a conditional marriage. Its not the same muta which the Imami shia allow. All the shias have to do is wear yellow shoes and then muta will become compulsory on them.
DefendDeen 2 years ago
@Zakah1, Yes ibn abbas playing games and keeps changing his mind... I will ask you one question. The fabricated hadeeths state that the prophet made mut3a finally haraam on the 8th of Hijra, right Zakah? In (saheeh bukhari Volume 7 tradition 13a) ibn masood says the prophet allowed mut3a and he read the verse 5:87 from SURAH MAIDA, all Traditions are unanimous that Surah Maidah was revealed in 10th Hijri and it was the last or the 2nd Last Surah that was revealed. (cont)
shorty40merza 1 year ago
@Zakah1 so did the prophet read the verse of sourah almaida before the 8th year of hijrah? did he read it before the verse was even revealed? or is your hadeeths through the mouths of the enemies of Ali whom have cursed him for years on the pulpits have fabricated and lied upon Ali? no no the umayah wouldn't lie upon Ali ibn shahab who worked 40 years for Umayah woudlnt lie upon Ali would he?
shorty40merza 1 year ago
According to the Shia books Zuhri was actually the COMPANION of Imam Zaynul Abedeen, so how can you claim he was an ENEMY OF ALI??????
Imam Zaynul Abedeen did criticize him according to Shia books for working for the Umayyads but he never accused him of LYING so to assume that Zuhri, the friend of Imam Zaynul Abedeen was lying is ridiculous for a Shia to say because then you are claiming to know more than Imam Zaynul Abedeen
Zakah1 1 year ago
Also the narration about Mutah being Haram is narrated by other chains of narration, not just Zuhri. It is even narrated in Shia books from Ali ibn Zayd and it is narrated in Musannaf Abd al-Razzaq by another chain
watch the rest of the video
Zakah1 1 year ago
@Zakah1 brother i made it simple for you... just tell us when mut3a was prohibited... all the narrations I read say not later than 8th hijri , some say khaibar, some say awtass (fath makkah) and some say tabook, khaibar is 7, awtas is 8 tabook is probably even earlier,,, yet the hadeeth in saheeh bukhari by ibn masood shows that the prophet allowed it while reading verse almaeda which was revealed 10th hijri , this proves he allowed it after the 10th ? then he died on the 11th
shorty40merza 1 year ago
I already explained that on the video
Zakah1 1 year ago
Mut’aa is mentioned only seven(7) times. I already posted three hadith that say’s Mut’aa was banned on the day of khaybar.
Sahih Bukhari: Volume: 5 Book: 59 Number: 526-Narrated Ibn Umar: On the day of Khaiber, Allah’s Apostle forbade the eating of garlic and the meat of donkeys.
xxlayalixx 1 year ago
@xxlayalixx The fabricated hadeeths state that the prophet made mut3a finally haraam on the 8th of Hijra, right Zakah? In (saheeh bukhari Volume 7 tradition 13a) ibn masood says the prophet allowed mut3a and he read the verse 5:87 from SURAH MAIDA, all Traditions are unanimous that Surah Maidah was revealed in 10th Hijri and it was the last or the 2nd Last Surah that was revealed. so did the prophet read the verse of sourah almaida before the 8th year of hijrah? (cont)
shorty40merza 1 year ago
@xxlayalixx did he read it before the verse was even revealed? or is your hadeeths through the mouths of the enemies of Ali whom have cursed him for years on the pulpits have fabricated and lied upon Ali? no no the umayah wouldn't lie upon Ali ibn shahab who worked 40 years for Umayah woudlnt lie upon Ali would he?
shorty40merza 1 year ago
@DefendDeen
its a lie that it was forbidden , it was never forbidden and that's why ibn abbas was defending it.,
shorty40merza 2 years ago
It was his view, and I am aware of that. I don't agree with him here.
DefendDeen 2 years ago
watch my documentary ( temporary marriage in sunnie books) 4 parts , you will understand the history behind it and why he had that opinion.
shorty40merza 2 years ago
I don't care. I don't need muta. I rather control myself as this is preferred. The Imams never did muta, so I don't have to do it.
DefendDeen 2 years ago
@DefendDeen no one forces you to do mut3a but dont forbid what god made lawful because gods religion is not a game
shorty40merza 1 year ago
@shorty40merza Allah (swt) also tells us to control our desires. The fatwa ibn Abbas (ra) gave is allowed under conditions. However, the 12rs shias if they see a good looking women they can run after her and do muta.
DefendDeen 1 year ago
@shorty40merza We don't agree with Ibn Abbas (ra) in this area. As for defense, just because someone is wrong this does not mean we believe they are lying. Remember Ibn Abbas (ra) also differed with Imam Ali (as) in his lifetime. An example of this is found in Nahj al Balagha letter 41.
DefendDeen 1 year ago
@DefendDeen i wasn't arguing ibn abbas' opinion read again please, i asked a simple question. when was mut3a prohibited? which year of hijrah? secondly ibn abbas was arguing with abdullah ibn Alzubair and ibn abbas was with Ali and Abdulah was the enemy of Ali in the war of jamal and Ibn abbas was not saying his opinion. he was saying that its the prophet's order that's why he said " i swear it was being practiced in the time of the prophet" go on my page and watch the documentary of 4 parts
shorty40merza 1 year ago
@shorty40merza I don't have any defense for Abdullah ibn Zubair. What he did was wrong. However, you need to bring proof that Imam Ali (as) allowed Muta in Sunni books. The letter 41 in Nahj al Balagha shows that Abdullah ibn Abbas withdrew from Imam Ali's (as) government after. I am aware ibn Abbas (ra) did say it was halaal, but I believe Imam Ali (as) too differed with him.
DefendDeen 1 year ago
@DefendDeen in tafseer fakhr aldeen alrazy imam Alis famous saying was reported under the tafseer of 4:24 that imam Ali said " if Umar did not prohibit mut3a then no one would commmit fornication except the very evil" Also please read the other post that i made to you about the timing of the prohibition and tell me if you have and answer, because we have evidence from bukhari that prove muta was allowed after the year 10 of alhijrah and all the prohibition claims are no later than 8th
shorty40merza 1 year ago
@shorty40merza Give me that chain narration of that ahadith because that statement goes against Aql. If that was true, Iran wouldn't have a prostitution problem. However, there are many 12r Shia prostitutes in Iran today because of the permissibility of muta. As for you quoting bukhari, I already told you that we disagree with the sahabas who agreed with it. Muta was never allowed expect under some conditions
DefendDeen 1 year ago
@DefendDeen prostitution is not because of permissibility of muta. actually its because of the prohibition of muta and polygamy. if Muta and polygamy is allowed you will not have prostitutes. Ali said: "everytime one door of halal is closed a 1000 doors of Haraam are opened up". Can i say because of the bidahs of misyar and zawaj friend and misyaf and bynyat altalaq that the sunnie world is full of prostitutes? No its not true same with muta
shorty40merza 1 year ago
@DefendDeen This hadeeth that I told you is not from Sahabah. Its from the prophet so do you disagree with the prophet too just so that you make Umar right? Ibn Masood saying the prophet allowed us Muta and read 5:87 which means this event happened after 10th of hijrah because 5:87 was reveald in the 10th year of hijrah.. Now all the claims of prohibition say it was in khaibar or awtas or fath and all those events are before 8th of hijrah. this means the prohibitions are lies.
shorty40merza 1 year ago
it doesnt say that the Prophet (saw) recited that Ayah, it says that the NARRATOR recited it and in fact its only mentioned in ONE VERSION of the narration so it obviously wasnt from the Prophet (saw)
Zakah1 1 year ago
@Zakah1 Doesn't matter the prophet read the verse or ibn masood the proof regardless of who recited that verse is that it was already revealed at that time which means this hadeeth took place after 10th alhijrah because 5:87 Almaida is the last sourah and was revealed in 10th alhijrah. All the other claims that say it was prohibited happened before the 8th year of hijrah so this proves that they are lies because in 10th alhijrah it was still allowed according to this bukhari hadeeth..
shorty40merza 1 year ago
it does matter WHO recited the verse because thats the entire point. In fact it wasnt even ibn Masood it was just ONE OF THE NARRATORS and the other chains dont mention the Ayah
Also ibn Masood himself was later convinced that its Haram as I explained on the video. It is narrated from Ibn Masood himself that he said Temporary Marriage was ABROGATED in Musannaf Abd al-razzaq and other early Hadith books
Zakah1 1 year ago
@shorty40merza I waiting for you to give me a chain narration from Sunni books which connects to Imam Ali (as). Can you do this ? I don't want the views of the other sahaba.
DefendDeen 1 year ago
@DefendDeen also note that fakhr alrazy and qurtoby mention that 4:24 was revealed about muta but this guy claims that muta is not in the quraan and if muta is in the quraan then only another quraan verse can abrogate it. and fakhr alrazy brings a hadeeth from imran bin hussain: " that muta was revealed in gods book and no quran came down to prohibit it then a man said his own opinion (Umar)" go to my channel and watch the 4 parts documentary i put all the chain of narrations
shorty40merza 1 year ago
you just proved that you havent even watched part 1 of my video, then you claim to have refuted it???? I just proved on this video that Imran bin Hussain was talking about Mut'ah al-Hajj not Temporary Marriage, so you are just proving the point I made on this video
And yes as I explained on parts 7 and 8, some Sonni scholars like Ibn Kathir did wrongly think that 4:24 was in the Quran but they thought it was abrogated
but the truth is 4:24 is about Mihr/alimony
Zakah1 1 year ago
@Zakah1 lol brother come on man I am many steps ahead of you in this research, I know bukhari tried to shift this and he put imran's hadeeth under muta of hajj but Fakhr aldeen alrazy put it under Muta of marriage when he did tafseer of 4:24 in his book altafseer alkabir. and even if it was about muta of hajj it proves that Umar is making bidahs in the religion and changing the religion doesn't it? it says " a man (umar) said his own opinion" and his opinion was against the religion
shorty40merza 1 year ago
since when has fakhraddin razi become the leader of ahlussunnah? I explained on the video that the Hadith is about Hajj, Im not basing this on just Imam Bukhari putting it in a different chapter, I explained based on the narration itself that its about Hajj, in fact some versions SAY that its about Hajj, WATCH THE VIDEO, at least watch part 1 before claiming that you're "ahead of me" in your "research"
Zakah1 1 year ago
@shorty40merza Would you allow me to Muta your sister for the long weekend? Money is not an issue, just name your price. If things go smooth, i'll come back for more. Who needs marriage or polygamy when right...Hey don't be mad at me, its your belief. If you find it offensive, don't hate me, hate the ones that taught you these things.
SMLIPRT 4 months ago
@SMLIPRT marrying my sister is not something in my hand its between you and her,, her father has guardianship over her if she is not Rashida and mut3a is for people who believe in it not people who believe its haraam and also mut3a is when your conditions force you to not stay together permanently or for people to use it as an engagement or tahreem but decent girls want only one man so they dont divorce or go into mut3a just for sampling or playing . you can do mut3a with corrupted girls
shorty40merza 4 months ago
@Zakah1 Its not only ibn katheer who "mistakenly" said 4:24 is talking about muta but qurtoby and fakhr alrazy both made the same "mistake" according to you? So you are saying the three most prominent sunnie mufasereen giving muta as the sabab alnozool for 4:24 are mistaken? they are basing thier opinions on strong narration what state this verse was revealed for muta so what are you basing your tafseer on?
shorty40merza 1 year ago
@shorty40merza You first said it was Imam Ali (as) who said it. Now you are saying its Imran ibn Hussain ? Why are you lying ? It is because you can do taqiyah ? I am want the chain narration from Sunnis books where Imam Ali (as) said its halaal.
DefendDeen 1 year ago
@DefendDeen i found the chain of narration for this hadeeth in Tafseer altabary:
mohamad bin muthana, moahmad bin jafar, shuba, fro malhakam he said i asked about the verse 4:24 is it abrogated? Ali said " if Umar did ont prohibit muta no one woudl commit zina except the very evil"
Tafseer alTabary of verse 4:24 you will find it.
shorty40merza 1 year ago
@shorty40merza Again this is just people who supposedly said it. This is not a chain narration. A chain goes like this " I heard from my father who narrated from who narrated who narrated from...
What you posted is only the first narrator. What I need is the chain which reaches the initial narrator.
DefendDeen 1 year ago
@DefendDeen oh my god , come one man, the chain is exactly like what you say but I summarized it because the post doesn't fit so I just mentioned the name of the people in the chain. is it important to mention "I heard from my father" and stuff like that??? the Isnad is only the people involved in the chain not what they say. please Dont deny the truth using lame excuses I mean would tabary put a chain which is faulty?
shorty40merza 1 year ago
@shorty40merza Brother, a chain narration is important. I mean in your own books there is ahadith which states don't wear black sandals, and to wear yellow ones because it gives you an organism. Guess what Shaykh Saduq attributed it to Imam Sadeq (as). Also on top of that there are mullahs in Iran wearing yellow sandals. Can you now see why Ilm-e-rijal is important ? If you cannot provide a chain then you are just copying and pasting.
DefendDeen 1 year ago
@DefendDeen sorry I don't know what they mean by black sandal giving them organism, and I dont have information or knowledge about this hadeeth and its content, I dont deny Ilm Alrijal is important but here we are not in a position to study the chain that Tabary brought in his Tafseer so I just mentioned the names of the rijal of the chain. you need to watch the documentary I made and comment on that just type in search " temporary marriage in sunnie saheeh books" 4 parts
shorty40merza 1 year ago
@shorty40merza Brother I posted a video on the sunnah of yellow sandals from your books made by a brother. It has chains too. watch?v=FE1aAMGBHV4 If you inviting me to not control myself, and freely do muta then you should bring full proof. As for positions, if you can't meet the demands then don't tell me muta is halaal until you can prove Imam Ali (as) allowed it from Sunni books. I want to see the full chain here. The 12th Imam did not appoint you, therefore I can disagree with you.
DefendDeen 1 year ago
@DefendDeen )
Ali reported to have said: If Umar did not forbid muta no one would commit fornication except the very evil
this was mentioned in the following tafseer books:
تفسير الطبري 5 / 17 والنيشابوري 5 / 17 ، والفخر الرازي في تفسير الآية بتفسيره الكبير 3 / 200 ،
وتفسير ابي حيان 3 / 218 ، والدر المنثور للسيوطي 2 / 40 .
6 ) تفسير القرطبي 5 / 130
in 6 prominent Sunnie tafseers and the chain of narration from tafseer altabary, mohamad bin muthana, moahmad bin jafar, shuba, alhakam, ali
shorty40merza 1 year ago
@shorty40merza This is not a chain. This is just people who supposedly said it. A chain narration at least has a minimum of 10 people.
DefendDeen 1 year ago
that narration is false and you can tell just by reading it. Why would Ali say "if Umar had not forbidden it" when according to the same narration Ali said this when he was in KUFAH and we know Ali was the Caliph when he was in Kufah so why didnt Ali make it Halal when he himself was the ruler????? The narration makes no sense and is an insult not just to Omar but also an insult to Ali too!!
Zakah1 1 year ago
@Zakah1 Ali allowed Muta, and Hasan allowed it and Hussain allowed it and they all allowed it but how would you know their opinion if you don't narrate from them? you follow their enemies so why do you pretend to know their opinions? many people did not take Umars Bidah. Remember Umar had other Bidahs too, he prohibited the Muta of Hajj and even sunnies didnt follow that bidah. He also changed the triple divorce into one and unfortunately the sunnies followed that bidah.
shorty40merza 1 year ago
actually even Shia clerics admit that Ali did NOT allow Mutah when he was the ruler, but their excuse is that Ali was supposedly doing "Taqiyyah" which is their excuse for everything
Show me where it says that when Ali was the ruler he allowed people to do Mutah??? Where does it say it? Stop making things up out of nowhere
We Sonnis are the true supporters of Ali, the Shias are followers of the Monafiqeen who betrayed Ali in Kufah and betrayed Hussain in Karbala
Zakah1 1 year ago
@DefendDeen just go through all your hadeeths that say it was prohibited and tell me in which year it was prohibited? youll find all say no later than 8th hijri, now I have evidence from bukhari that it was allowed after 10th hijri? (saheeh bukhari Volume 7 tradition 13a) ibn masood says the prophet allowed mut3a and he read the verse 5:87 from SURAH MAIDA, all Traditions are unanimous that Surah Maidah was revealed in 10th Hijri and it was the last or the 2nd Last Surah that was revealed
shorty40merza 1 year ago
Mutah was allowed during the time of PROPHET saw, It was abondoned during the time of UMAR: so do you rather follow Sunnah of PROPHET or UMAR ? :) Mutah is stated in the Qur'an,, Allah stw says: "Do not make Unlawful the things that I made Lawful for you." :)
Allah Ho'Akbar !!
Salam
ToGathering 2 years ago
No the Prophet (saw) said it is HARAM, it was abrogated during the time of the Prophet (saw) himself, that is what this video explains, WATCH IT before commenting
Omar (ra) simply told people its haram who had not heard from the Prophet (saw)
Ali ibn abi Talib (ra) also said Mutah is Haram, so did many other of the Sahabah
Even those who said it is Halal later changed their mind, such as Ibn Abbas (ra) and IBn masood (ra)
Zakah1 2 years ago
no i dont have the time to watch this nonsense video. Brother tell me, where did Prophet saw said that MUTAH is HARAM ? :)
salam
ToGathering 2 years ago
Wa alaykumussalam wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh
It is narrated in
Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Sunan Tirmidhi, Sunan Ibn Majah and many many other sources that:
'Ali (r.a) said: the Prophet forbade the temporary marriage ( Mu'ta) of women, as well as the eating of the flesh of domestic donkies on the day of Khaybar.
Zakah1 2 years ago
@Zakah1 you forgot to mention that this narration is narrated through the mouths of the enemies of Ali , Ibn Shahab alzahry worked for the umayah government for 40 years and he is in the chain... so he has every reason to lie about him.
shorty40merza 1 year ago
also: Rabi bin Sabra on the Authority of his father: 'Allah's Messenger said: "I had permitted you the temporary marriage of women, but Allah has prohibited you from that till the day of Resurrection. So if anyone has a woman by temporary marriage he should let her go; and do not take back any of your gifts from them." {Sahih Muslim)
Zakah1 2 years ago
ok lets believe that for a moment: so why is it stated in the Holy Quran than ?
And can u give me the references so i can check this by myself,, it will be kind of you brother :)
ToGathering 2 years ago
@ToGathering you want evidence watch " temporary marriage in sunnie saheeh books" 4 parts watch all four
shorty40merza 1 year ago
it is not in the Quran, the Ayah (verse 24 of Surah Nisa) does not say anything about marriage being "temporary", it is actually about Mihr or Dowry
those sunnis who thought its about Mutah said that the Ayah is abrogated, but most Sunni scholars believe it is not and is really about dowry
the assumption that the ayah is about mutah is just because it uses the word istamatu which means enjoyment with wife, not "temporary marriage"
I explained this in detail on part 7 of this video
wasslm
Zakah1 2 years ago
ok: but give me the references from the sahih books ...
ToGathering 2 years ago
they are in the chapters on marriage, look up the chapters
some of the books have a specific chapter of mutah marriage, in which case they would be in those chapters
Zakah1 2 years ago
yea but there are so many,, u know it where it is: jsut give me the references,, make it easy for me brother.. :)
thanks
ToGathering 2 years ago
Istamta'tum means to seek mut'ah. It is the same exact word used in Sahih Bukhari about mut'ah.
إنه قد أذن لكم أن تستمتعوا، فاستمتعوا
muhibbullah92 2 years ago
it is an Arabic word which means ENJOYMENT, it can sometimes mean Temporary marriage depending on the context
The Quran says for example that people who go to Hell enjoyed (mutah) the life of this world... and uses the word MUTAH for enjoy, so if you are going to say that the word always means Temporary marriage then you would have to say that people who do Temporary Marriage will go to HELL!!!
So by your own logic anyone who does it will go to Hell !!!
Zakah1 2 years ago
although there were some who were of the opinion that rajm was abrogated, there is more evidence that it was not
Zakah1 2 years ago
I made a mistake on this video at 4 mins, I said Adultery is punished by flogging, which is not the case.
Fornication is punished by flogging, but adultery is punished by rajm/stonning
Zakah1 2 years ago
very well said my brother..... by researching from some of the Sahih books... which are already discredit some of Hadis by being fabricated or unclear but books of history do records them.... Anyways, anything from the holy Quran?
Also, is it possible that you are from Afghanistan grown up in the west!
Say768110 2 years ago
Im remaking this video to make it better (more info and less boring)
I have already explained about Quran on part 7 of this video, but my new video will explain much better inshaAllah
Zakah1 2 years ago
part 7 did not give any answers.read my comments on part 7.
shiaguy1 2 years ago
Brother ZAKAH MAshallah..Thumbs up...May Allah bless you so much..I am really very proud of you...
ahsen221 2 years ago
Brother Zakah1,with all due respect,can you anwser this please; If something is written in the holy Quraan and is made lawful and there is no verse in the Quraan that later makes it unlawful,then how can it become unlawful? Don't you think that if our beloved nabi s.a.w made it unlawful then it would be in the Quraan because our nabi s.a.w would have receieved a revelation from Allah s.w.t,or do you believe that our nabi s.a.w just decided to make it unlawful.Also is there anything written in t
shiaguy1 2 years ago
watch part 7
Zakah1 2 years ago
MUTAH IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE QURAN.
shademurtagh 2 years ago
Muta is in the QURAN. Chapter 4 verse 24 END OF STORY, I DONT CARE WHAT U PEOPLE SAY. CANT CHANGE THE QURAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kassem43 2 years ago
I already explained that you on part 7, watch it before commenting
Zakah1 2 years ago
Ali (رضّى الله عنه) said:
The Messenger of Allah had forbidden Mutah on the day of Khaybar and had forbidden the eating of the meat of domestic camels. [Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmizy, Ibn Majah, Nasa`i, Tahawy, Shafii, Bayhaqy, and Hazimy]
Ali (رضّى الله عنه) said to a man who was engaging in Mutah:
You are a straying person, the Messenger of Allah has forbidden temporary marriage and the meat of domestic camels on the day of Khaybar. [Muslim and Bayhaqy]
MuhammadAhmad1 2 years ago
go worship your godss laat manaat uzza and hubal, i'v told you so many times you son of MISYAR, zawaj URFI. now ....get along, good boy.
TrueSalafi 2 years ago
@MuhammadAhmad1 just go through all your hadeeths that say it was prohibited and tell me in which year it was prohibited? youll find all say no later than 8th hijri, now I have evidence from bukhari that it was allowed after 10th hijri? (saheeh bukhari Volume 7 tradition 13a) ibn masood says the prophet allowed mut3a and he read the verse 5:87 from SURAH MAIDA, all Traditions are unanimous that Surah Maidah was revealed in 10th Hijri and it was the last or the 2nd Last Surah that was revealed
shorty40merza 1 year ago
watch the video, I've explined all that. Watch parts 7 and 8
Zakah1 1 year ago
When Ali was given the Caliphate, he thanked Allah Most High and praised Him and said:
O people, the Messenger of Allah had permitted Mutah three times then forbade it. I swear by Allah, ready to fulfil my oath, that if I find any person who engages in temporary marriage without having ratified this with a proper marriage, I will have him lashed 100 stripes unless he can bring two witnesses to prove that the Messenger had permitted it after forbidding it. [Ibn Majah]
MuhammadAhmad1 2 years ago
WAHABISM AT ITS BEST.
kassem43 2 years ago
Imran Ibn Husain narrated: "The verse of Mut'a (4:24) was revealed in Allah's Book, and there did NOT came any other verse after that to abrogate it; and the Prophet ORDERED US to do it, so we did it at the time of Allah's Apostle, and he did not forbade us from it till he died. But a man (who regarded it illegal) expressed what his own mind suggested." Tafsir al-Kabir, by al-Tha'labi, under commentary of verse 4:24 of Quran
kassem43 2 years ago
do you realise you proved the point I made on this video?
Zakah1 2 years ago
Also many Sunni commentary books mentioned similar to the tradition of Sahih al-Bukhari (see part II) with more details and put it under the verse 4:24 of Quran:
kassem43 2 years ago
Do u know how Umar Ibn katib's son Abdallah was born? He was born while Umar was in battle, at that time Umar was in a mut'a or temporary marriage. Then Umar wants to go and say its not allowed? Many prominent sunni scholars have done tafsir of chapter 4 verse 24 They claim it means mut'a or temporary marriage is permissable. Allah (swt) clearly states temporary marriage is ok. NOW U WANT TO TELL ME OTHERWISE! Bounce.
kassem43 2 years ago
You know nothing- sunnis have a temporary marriage called 3orfah, why do you deny it?? Obviously you were never a muslim, and now you are a sunni kaffir.
You're respect and love for a witch like aisha shows you inherited her hate for the Prophet's family. Monkey see, monkey do. She used to bark at the Propeht's family, just as you bark at us for following them. She was a liar, a snake, an accused adultress, and you love all this about her, says alot about your cult. You are not Muslim. Kaffirs
Panther6170 2 years ago
Aishah was part of the Prophets family, so it is YOU who hates the family of the Prophet (saw).
The Shias are the real Nasibis
And Urfi marriage is simply to marry without a Contract, how is that similar to Mut'ah??? It is just marriage without contract.
I know there are some who do Zina and claim they had done Urfi marriage, but they have not done it right as you need witnesses even in Urfi marriage
By the way, you are a moron
Zakah1 2 years ago
@Zakah1 correction Zakah urfi is not a marriage without contract, contract is always compulsory in any valid marriage, Urfi is just the fact that the marriage is not announced, announcing the marriage is not compulsory but only mustahab. the contract is verbal and the written stuff is not compulsory but for sunnies the witnesses are compulsory. Misyar is when the woman gives up her rights to the nafaqah and others stuff and also secret. Binyat altalaq allowed by binbaz is exactly like mut3a
shorty40merza 1 year ago
I dont recall saying anything about "contract"
Zakah1 1 year ago
I made a small mistake on this video.
Stonning was only abrogated in the case of fornication, not adultery
Zakah1 2 years ago
And since this about temporary marriage, which by the way- this video isnt by a "former" Shia. There is NO such thing as a "former" Shia. No one who is Muslim reverts to sunni.
Anyway- why dont you discuss your 3orfah? you know what that is? it's an arabic word, so no you wouldnt, or pretend not to. It's sunni temporary marriage. Go look it up. See if you can find it translated into paki.
Uffffffffffffff, how you wanna be's bark. just like aisha used to.
Panther6170 2 years ago
Firstly I am a former Shia and I know much more about Shiism than you do. Secondly I am not Pakistani.
Thirdly Sunnis have no temporary marriage, temporary marriage is HARAM in ISLAM only Shias allow it
Shias pretend like misyar and some other things are somehow similar to temporary marriage when in fact there is no similarity
and your hatred of Aisha the wife of the Prophet (pbuh) proves that you are an enemy of Islam and the Qur'an because the Quran says she is the mother of believers
Zakah1 2 years ago
Panther6170 ....your imam zamana used to bark like a dog ...he was the most famous shia mutah pimp ever ..he used to pimp 12th imams(dajjals) mom ...happy now?
ya mutah madad
IamThe12thImam 2 years ago
Shiaz accuse our Prophet(SAW)
Shiaz r Kafirz n should b declared clearly!!
N for those who support Muta,
"Would u like 2 give away ur Sisters in Muta?"
artistdigital 2 years ago
ok, so if I go somewhere that no one is willing to marry me except prostitutes temporarily, I can do mut'ah with them???
the more you argue the more you prove mut'ah is valid because your apologist arguments are weak. your arogance puts your credibility in question. You know more than all ayatollahs and shia scholars? LOL. If you don't know every Ayatollah how can you say you know more than them?
You are obsessed in trying to disprove mut'ah. The more you try to disprove the more you prove!
muhibbullah92 3 years ago
No I said this was BEFORE IT WAS ABROGATED.
Do you know what Abrogatio/Naskh means?
Before it was abrogated, it could be done under all those conditions, but now it is abrogated so you cant do Mut'ah at all anymore.
It was only allowed for 3 days, I have explained all this on the video and refuted the arguments of Shias.
According to 2 Sunni Hadiths and 1 Shiah Hadith Ali ibn Abi Talib said that Temporary Marriage is abrogated, as did at least 10 of the Sahabah, just watch the video
Zakah1 3 years ago
4:24 of the Qur'an clearly states mut'ah is valid, revealed in Madinah. No Meccan verse can abrogate that. Mut'ah is an open negotiable marriage contract. Islamic conventional marriage follows a patriarchal model but mut'ah doesn't. Mut'ah is better for women who do not want to be married in such a way that they are lower than men. Mut'ah can give a woman equal power and responsibility. It empowers women if a woman is intelligent enough to negotiate conditions in her favor. Mut'ah is amaz
muhibbullah92 3 years ago
4:24 is NOT about Mut'ah, watch parts 7, 8 and 9 of the video, I explained in great detail why the Ayah is NOT about Mut'ah.
The Ayah does NOT say anything about marriage being "temporary", it is actually about Mihr.
And Mut'ah doesnt "empower women", it makes them into whores, especially the Shia version of Mut'ah (Mut'ah was abrogated but the Shia Mut'ah is NOT EVEN the same thing as the practice that was abrogated, it is much worse as I explain on other posts)
Zakah1 3 years ago
to zakah1, this dastarkhan has been attended by me and my family many a time and I am a witness to the miracles of various ayats, etc which were written with sattu, as well as thumb impressions on various fruits.
In one such dastarkan a long ayat was written with sattu which was seen by all those present. there are numerous miracles which were seen by various shias.
rajay2000 3 years ago
your words are of no more value to me than the claims of Catholics about their saints performing miracles in their shrines.
Or Hindus and others making similar claims.
Anyway if your Imams help you when you ask them, then as I said, watch this video and refute everything I said on it with their help, surely your Imams must want to help you defend a practice which you claim they preached.
Zakah1 3 years ago
to zakah 1, it does not matter if you do not value my words, A fact does not need any one's acceptance, Miracle of Imams(as) are different from other illusions, I have already quoted "nahjul balagha" and for your satisfaction I will refer other books apart from nahjul balagha and reply shortly.
rajay2000 3 years ago
how is it a "fact"? Do you know what "fact" means?
Zakah1 3 years ago
to zakah1, the holy prophet said "awalona mohammad, ausatona mohammad, akhirona mohammad, kullona mohammad" for the 12 Imams, and also that I and ALI are 2 parts of one piece of noor. and there are various suras and ayats that have been sent in praise of our Imams (as). and 'fact' in my reply means miracles of Imam (as).
how will you remove the suras and ayats revealed in the praise of ahlebaith/ Imams (as)?
rajay2000 3 years ago
Firstly we dont believe in your "Hadith". Your Hadith books were written over a 100 years after Sunni Hadith books, its obvious that Shiah narrations are mostly fabrocated. Even your scholars of Hadith like allameh majlesi admited that your "most authentic book" Al-Kafi has over 11000 narrations in it that are not authentic.
As for the ahlul bayt, we Sunnis love them and respect them, we just dont exaggerate their status. In fact I myself am a descendent of Hossein ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib (ra).
Zakah1 3 years ago
to zakah1, whether you accept shia books or not is your own opinion.
my friends visited agra and saw the cell in which a prominent shia scholar was imprisoned by the tyrant aurangazeb, during his reign. still the cell holds the writings of the scholar which were written by him in his own blood, at one place he has written that he wanted the future generations of shias to know the good qualities and miracles of Imam Ali (as), this is the way in which hadiat reached us.
rajay2000 3 years ago
LOOOL there is no such thing as a person converting from Islam Shia to sunnism cult. How pathetic to be that desperate to lie.
Panther6170 3 years ago
There is nothing as Shia Islam!! Shiaz r Kafirz!!
Islam is on Islam
Shiasim is not Islam its kufr!!
artistdigital 2 years ago
By the way kaffir-- The Qu'ran was written in ARABIC, delievered in ARABIC, to the Prophet (SWA), who was ARAB, He is NOT your Prophet, as a matter of fact no Prophet was Pakistinian, so you need to shut up.You couldnt understand the Prophet if he asked you what time it was, but you think you can define Islam to an ARAB??? Go find your own religion. Islam is not yours. Go back to worshipping cows or monkeys, or whatever. Thank God I'm an Arab who inherited her religion from ARABS, you wanna be.
Panther6170 2 years ago
:) Im a Pashtoon, before Islam we were jews!! Now we r muslims!! The prophet(SAW) in Khutba-e-hijat-al-wida clearly meant that Islam was not only for Arabs n u should learn bout Islam!! Shiaz r nothing but a hatred group of historical ethnicity!! Wa atiulah wa atiurRasool
refer to da hadit of Prophet(SAW) > umAlMomineen n den go n prove da Prophet(SAW) wrong n prove ur 12.. Imams correct!! If Prophet(SAW) is wrong I will quit Islam other than following ur Imams!! specially Abdullah ibne saba
artistdigital 2 years ago
Thats da problem, u think that heaven or hell, relegion n all r inherited n this makes u a contractor of Islam!! I know shiaz r bred wid hatred n cursing n i know they r taught to say Lanat on everyone!! From where did u get ur Kalima?? Who modified ur Adhan? why? which imam told u to establish Hussainia n worship his pictures n Idols?? I dont see Islam here!!
artistdigital 2 years ago
The problem IS people like you who have no business in Islam. Simple. You are tolerated, not accepted. How dare YOU non-Arab, who just converted 5 minutes ago, spew your brainwashed garbage about REAL Muslims. You have no business deciding what is Islam and what isnt. You chose kaffirs over the PURE. You change the word of God, you manipulate Islam to serve your political agendas.
You not only WERE jews, you still are. You're not arab, be quiet.
Panther6170 2 years ago
LOL- he picks up a few Arab Islamic words, and now thinks he's a Islamic Scholar. Let me ask something that MY Prophet could ask you.. Shoo Ismaak? you cant answer and why? because you dont understand what he said. Same with you and Islam, YOu dont understand so you make it up as u go, same as your sahabah did. They didnt understand the purpose of Islam, they thought it was a way to line their pockets with money, and further their positions, even if that meant selling their daughters at age 9.
Panther6170 2 years ago
I dont believe Islam legalises prostitution by naming it Muta!! it was 4 some time wen taking liquor was allowed but gradually banned!! So was Muta!! but if u still want to we can muta!!
artistdigital 2 years ago
The opinion of non arabs on an Arab religion is as meaningful as the opinion about nuclear physics by a plumber. When a non arab non muslim sunni/wahabi speaks of Islam, he should have his tongue cut out and be hung by it.
Panther6170 2 years ago
to Zakah1, Miracle of Imam (as), on 10th moharram, many shias world wide, perform matam with knifes, swords, blades, and other sharp weapons, and cut themselves out of their love for Imam Hussain(as) and his companions. stil they dont feel the pain that they would have endured in ordinary circumstances. this is in itself a present day miracle which is viewed year after year.
rajay2000 3 years ago
Firstly this practice, aside from being against Islam and barbaric, was actually adobted from Pagans (the idol worshippers of Iraq practiced this before Shiahs) this practice has nothing to do with Islam, it is a Bid'ah and a very harmful and evil one at that
As for Shiahs not feeling pain I know this is not true, I used to be Shiah and I know everyone who even beat their chests felt pain. How do you know they dont feel pain?
Zakah1 3 years ago
One of the craziest things is Shiahs even cut their childrens heads, even babies, on Ashoora.
When the child doesnt cry they say its a miracle, but when the child does cry they say "oh look at him he is crying for his master Imam Hossein"!!!!!!
So... no matter what happens, Shiahs say its a miracle - if you cry its for imam hussein, if you dont its a miracle!!!
Shiism=Insanity
Shaytan has possessed the Shiah just as he possessed the pagans before Islam
Zakah1 3 years ago
To rajay2000 and all Shiahs reading this:
If you want to prove that your Imams help you when you ask them for help, then ask them to help you refute everything on this video.
If you succeed then you have proven your claim, if not then it is clear that Shiism is false, both in regards to the "12 Imams" as well as Temporary Marriage.
By the way, its not enough to point out a few small mistakes in the video, you must be able to refute it all.
Zakah1 3 years ago
to zakah1, In Nahjul balagha page 1545, this is a very old edition and is divided in volumes, this narration is in other editions of nahjul balaga. in english and urdu editions, it is narrated that Hazrat Ali (as) stated that "verily the people of hell would be fairly less due to illegitimate sex, if Omer had not prohibited muta" whether you or other sunnis accept it or not.
this refutes your video in its totality.
rajay2000 3 years ago
how does this refute my video? I already stated that Shiahs have narrations in their books in support of Mutah and have fabricated them
The video refutes all the Shiah arguments, it proves that a hadith that Says Mutah is Haram is true based on Shia or Sunni mentality, proves the Hadith fits in with Qur'an, proves Temporary Marriage was abrogated through the Quran, proves Omar didnt make it haram that shiahs lie and much more
Yu really need to WATCH the video before attempting to refute it
Zakah1 3 years ago
to zakah1,ALLAH (the great and the glorified)has permitted every person to follow what ever he/she belives, I would like you not to spread lies about our Holy Imams (as) or associating a satun like dajjal as our Imam. Many shias during the rule of bani-ommiah, bani-abbas sacrificed families, wealth, and even their lives so that true faith reaches their decendents, before commenting like this read some facts or listen to lectures of unbiased sunnis.
rajay2000 3 years ago
Well if you had just spent a few seconds watching the video on which you are commenting you would see that I used to be a Shiah
I was Shiah until about 5 years ago and I know more about Shiism than most Shiahs
I have listened to hundreds of Shiah lectures, read hundreds of books written by Shiahs and I personally decided to leave Shiis after learning the truth, no one converted me
InshaAllah I will make more videos exposing Shiism in detail in the future, for now at least watch this video
Zakah1 3 years ago
to zakah1, I have watched your video time and again after seeing your video i refered various books and in nahjul balgha I had seen the comment of Imam Ali(as), and that ends the matter for me. as i consider Nahjul balga to be more authentic then your video, I am commenting on your comments, whether you convert into a sunni or accept any religion of your choice, your selection is immaterial for me, as you were posting things against the Holy Imams (as)it was my duty to comment on it.
rajay2000 3 years ago
Firstly nahjul balaqah is not even an authentic book, it doesnt even have Isnad.
Yes there are many narrations in Shiah books that say mut'ah is Halal, but they CONTRADICT other narrations in both Shia and Sunni books which say Ali (ra) said Mut'ah is HARAM.
Your scholars simply CHOOSE to believe that Mut'ah is halal because they like prostitution
Zakah1 3 years ago
to zakah1, there is a difference between muta and prostitution, after performing muta children born out of such wedlock is legal and the persons involved in muta are not sinners.
Prostitution is a crime, a gunah e kabeera, where the sinners are prescribed strict punishment. both are different and there is no comparision among them. even the children born out of prostitution are illegitimate.
rajay2000 3 years ago
The mut'a that Shias do is prostitution, it is 100% Zina.
The Mut'a that was practiced during the beginning of Islam and was abrogated was VERY DIFFERENT, inshaAllah I will make a video soon to explain.
For example the original mut'a could not be done if you already had a wife, and it could not be done with minors (under 9 years) and it could only be done if someone was on an expedition and couldnt marry.
None of these laws are in the Shiah Muta. so the Shia Mut'a is Zina.
Zakah1 3 years ago
to zakah1, as i said earlier, muta is subjected to the rules and regulations laid down for it, neither it is zina, nor prostitution.
rajay2000 3 years ago
look, I have read Khomeinis Risalah, and the fatwa of Sistani and others, I KNOW what are the "rules" of Mut'ah according to Shias.
The Shia rules are NOT the original rules, which is why the Shia Mut'a is ZINA and Prostitution or even worse.
The original Mut'a was of course ABROGATED (watch [parts 7 and 8 and 9 of my video for proof) but that Mut'a was DIFFERENT from Shia Mut'a, so Shias are not just doing something that was abrogated, Shias are doing something MUCH worse
Zakah1 3 years ago
to zakah1, are sunni rules original and autentic.
shabbir14 3 years ago
to Zakah1, as far as your issue of dajjal is concerned he is not at all remotely connected to us the shias, Our Imam (qaime-e-aal-e-mohammad)is in Ghaibat, and shall come when he is permitted by ALLAH (the great and the glorified)along with Hazrat Isa (pubh), we are not fools to be tricked by dajjal and his ilk into thinking that he is our Imam, all this is figment of imagination of sunnis, who dont have an Imam to look after them, after their qhulfa-e-rashideen.
rajay2000 3 years ago
Dajjal is hidden and appears to certain people, just like Shiahs believe their Hidden Imam appears to some of them... coincidence?
Imam Askari (whom you call the 11th Imam) did not even have a son, the Jewish worshippers of Dajjal invented the lie that he had a son as an excuse to bring Dajjal into Islam and in the end they invented Shiism.
Shiism is the religion of the Dajjal, in fact the Prophet (saw) prophecised that Dajjal's followers will be in IRAN!
Zakah1 3 years ago
to zakah 1, the 11th Imam (as) had a son our next Imam (as)and at the time of the demise of the 11th Imam (as) the Imam of namaz-e-janaza was his son the current Imam, Hazrat Imam Mehdi (as), as a namaz e janaza of an Imam(as) is prayed only by the next Imam (as), hence your data gathered on Our 12th Imam (as)is based on the jewish belives, dajjal will not pray to ALLAH, and perform miracles by taking the name of ALLAH. as Our Imam showed various miracles before and after his ghaibat.
rajay2000 3 years ago
to Zakah 1,
Shias take their belives from their Imams directly and refer to authentic sources as secondry data for belives. whether Saba from whom you claim is the source of belif for shias was a mushrik, and was killed by hazrat Ali(as) this is unknown to me and so I cannot comment on this issue. for us the shias the base of our belives are our Holy Imam(as).
rajay2000 3 years ago
What an ignorant comment.
Firsly none of our history books were even written during the time of Muawiyyah, lol.
Shiahs take their beliefs from people who NARRATE from people whom you call "Imams", you dont take it DIRECTLY from them, you narrate the same way we Sunnis NARRATE from the Prophet (saw).
But Shiahs narrate through heretics like Mofazzal and Zurarah ibn Ayyan who even according to Shiah sources were CURSED by Imam Ja'far Sadiq.
Zakah1 3 years ago
to zakah1, you claim that sunnis follow Hazrat Ali(as) if that is the case then the very basic conflict between shias and sunnis would have ended. Shias accepted hazrat Ali(as)as the immediate successor of the prophet, even before ghadeer this was declared by the prophet.
hazrat Ali (as) never accepted the qilafat of the 3 sahabas, to avoid praying behind hazrat Ali(as) the muslims of his time started saying their prayers before the appointed time, ie before sunset and just before snrise.
rajay2000 3 years ago
Shiahs are not followers of Ali, they just claim to be. Shiism actually originated from Abdollah ibn Saba, a Mushrik who pretended to support Ali (ra) but Ali (ra) himself killed him.
Shiahs take their beliefs from books like Osool al-Kafi that narrate Hadith from the followers of Abdollah ibn Saba and attribute them to Ali (ra) and the rest of Ahlul bayt.
Also Ali (ra) accepted the Caliphate of Abu Bakr (ra) Omar (ra) and Uthman (ra),in fact he was their Minister and advisor.
Zakah1 3 years ago
to Zakah1, I dispute your claim, in its totality, Hazrat Ali(as) was the immediate successor of the holy prophet(pubh) from the day of declaration till the day of Jujdement (qiyamath), If hazrat Ali(as) would have accepted the three qulaf-e-rasedeen (the elected ones)we would have accepted them as our Qalifas, if that would have been the case there would not have been any major dispute among shias and sunnis, which is not the case.
your historians were bribed by Mavia(La)to change history.
rajay2000 3 years ago
Shiahs changed the time of Prayer themselves, Ali (ra)NEVER did so
The Prophet (saw) said (narrated by Mustadrak al-Hakim) that the followers of the Dajjal (antichrist) will pray 3 times instead of 5 and that is what the Shiahs did (Shiahs pray Zuhr and Asr together and Maghrib and Isha together)
So Shiahs will join the Dajjal when he comes and I believe the hidden twelth "imam" of the Shiahs is in fact the Dajjal and not the real Mahdi, Dajjal tricked Shiash into thinking he is their Imam
Zakah1 3 years ago
Sunnis changed the time of prayer, Hazrat Ali(as) and his followers did not change the followed the time set by the Holy Prophet Mohammad(pubh), the sunnis changed time to avoid praying behind Hazrat Ali(as), as they wanted to pray behind their elected leaders.
Regarding praying 3 times, we shias pray 5 times, during Haj even the present day sunni Imans who lead the prayer of Haj club zohar and asar and maghrib and Ishaa and pray 3 times, even though they are there for the whole day.
rajay2000 3 years ago
Hajj is different, Shiahs pray at 3 times always.
The Prophet (Saw) also said the followers of Dajjal would try to appear more religious than the true Muslims by fasting longer (to trick Muslims into thinking they are better for fasting longer).
And of course Shiahs fast 15 minutes or so longer than Sunnis.
Shiahs=followers of Dajjal
The person whom your scholars contact is not Imam Mahdi or the "12th Imam", he is the Dajjal.
Zakah1 3 years ago
to Zakah1, When you were a shia, before your 'enlightment' may be you had the privelage of meeting/obtaining belives from dajjal, since my birth till date, I have seen the miracles of the Holy Imams(as)the direct decendents of the Holy prophet (pubh), even my maternal forefathers who were syeds (najeeb-ud-tarfain) and shia scholars one from Iraq and another from Iran (keeper of keys of Rauza of Imam Raza (as)) spoke about various miracles of the Imams. you are free to belive what you want.
rajay2000 3 years ago
I have not seen any of their so called "miracles", Catholics also claim that their dead saints perform miracles and like the Shiah they never prove it.
Catholic priests make up stories the same way Shiah clerics do.
I have been to the Haram of "Imam Reza", I saw sick people asking him for help without ever being cured, I saw crazy people screaming for help until they passed out. There were no miracles.
Zakah1 3 years ago
Read my comment once again, we shias follow the actions of the prophet, as he receited naad-e-ali as directed by ALLAH the great and the glorified. You are free to hate Hazrat Ali, as it will not affect his status and glory.
As far as your comment on Iraq war is concerned someone wins and someone looses it has nothing to do with the authority and power of Hazrat Ali(as), yes shias are helped by hazrat Ali(as) and it is a question of faith.
rajay2000 3 years ago
Firstly Sunnis not only love Ali (ra), we also follow what he said , unlike the Shiahs who only love calling upon his name but whose actions are worse than the Khawarij and other enemies of Ali (ra).
The Qur'an forbids calling upon others besides Allah (swt) so your Shiah beliefs are contrary to the Qur'an and this proves that Shiism is not Islam.
Zakah1 3 years ago
Assalamualaikum brother,
Where does the Qur'an forbid this?
If you show me a verse,
I promise you that I will never call on anyone except Allah Almighty (SWT).
If the Qur'an contradicts every Shia, I chose the Qur'an, but I believe that the Qur'an does not contradict every Shia, but only a few stupid Shia.
May Allah bless us all.
We are brothers and sisters in Islam, whether Ahl us-Sunnah, Shia or Salafi.
ShiaMuslim4lyf 3 years ago
3:38 There did Zakariya pray to his Lord, saying: "O my Lord! Grant unto me from Thee a progeny that is pure: for Thou art He that heareth prayer!
14:39 "Praise be to Allah, Who hath granted unto me in old age Isma'il and Isaac: for truly my Lord is He, the Hearer of Prayer!
What does that tell you?.. praise allah and call upon him. cause ONLY he can hear yourr call.. not a dead man. no offence.
this should be more than enough proof. salams.
olli3z 3 years ago
Also this Ayah: "And who is more astray than one who calls (invokes) besides Allah, such as will not answer him till the Day of Resurrection; and who are (even) unaware of their calls (invocations) to them? And when mankind are gathered (on the Day of Resurrection), they (false deities) will become enemies for them and will deny their worshipping."
(Quran 46: 5,6)
Zakah1 3 years ago
This Noble verse was revealed to Christians and Jews who called upon Nebi Uzair (AS) and Nebi Isa (AS) to directly help them as if the Prophets were Gods.
We on the other hand do not ask Imam Ali (AS) to help us directly but ask him to pray to Allah for us.
We give Du'a to none but Allah as he tells us to do so in the final revelation of Allah Almighty, the Noble Qur'an.
I do not give Du'a to Imams or anyone except Allah.
ShiaMuslim4lyf 3 years ago
barak allah feek brother :) ill add that to my notess.
olli3z 3 years ago