Floor Debate on H.R. 3962 Affordable Health Care For America Act: Chairman George Miller Rebuttal

[Markiusalexis14]

LOVE HIM. HERO Of My LiFE!

[LastStand4Freedom]

CA must vote this bumb out of office in November. Americans need to peal back the layers of the political onion and get a good look at ALL the corruption in DC...by both sides. 

Just listen to the laughter in the chamber...such a shame. Just like the cheerleading on the floor on 3/21/10 .. one mor vote... one more vote. Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves...such a shame!!!

[mortician54]

Blue Cross Anthem...failed to fool the public this time around! These dirty bastards need to be hung with piano wire! ....This company is running scared of health care reform! and robbing us of everything until health reform comes to the rescue. Stockholders need to be imprisoned for a minimum of 50 years with no

medical care should they become sick while in prison! ....I never dreamed in all my years on earth that humans could be so heartless for people who become sick !

[davidcole100]

this guy is a fool and a traitor, we have fools and idiots in washington, wake up before it is to late

[2000yrCatholic]

No taxpayer funded abortions.

ABORTION IS NOT HEALTHCARE!

[hadenufnow]

Kill the 3000 pg Illegal HC TAX & JAIL Trojan Horse Mandate bill nobody wants..

Kill the bill..

Vote em out..

nobody wants it..

[twincrier]

It doesn't leave behind Americans, it leaves behind the illegals who don't pay taxes and billionaire Obamabots like Oprah Winfrey and Bill Gates. The dem plan is just a government takeover of health insurance, it doesn't guarantee anyone healthcare.

[Effedup]

I find it hysterical that when we were giving trillions of dollars in bailouts to the banks, there was some grumbles, but nothing major. Now you spend money trying to provide healthcare to everyone, and holy shit, the right is losing their minds screaming people down...

Why does the right prostitute itself out to big business? Does the GOP like being bent over?  Are they all Sadomasochists or something? Do they enjoy paying ever rising premiums to get denied later for bullshit reasons??

[wanchope32]

I just love how no republican can explain why after twelve years they all of a sudden say they know how to fix health insurance. Just like after twelve years they all of a sudden know how to balance the budget, or avoid killing innocent americans! Huh! God! Save Us! Great Line!

[DigitalAquarius]

Bravo! Well said.

[eightbitgnosis]

Theatrics

[TylerNull]

The world is still trying to recover from the Democrats' "affordable housing" fascism, and the Democrats are already trying for "affordable medicine".

Democrats are a bad joke against humanity.

[boing3887]

sorry, but your brand of populism is funded by the corporations. freedomworks, etc is all corporate funded.

[boing3887]

yes, affrodable medicine is fascism. so therefore all of europe, and all the rich nations of asia like japan, taiwan, and korea are all fascist countries. france, britain, germany, finland, norway, spain, denmark, sweden, switzerland are all fascist.

this is the kind of credible logic that exists within the tea party movement and the conservative movement in general. stop watching glenn beck

[GiantTarget]

Very well said.

[TylerNull]

"yes, affordable medicine is ..."

There was NOTHING affordable about Fannie Fascism, yet you cling to the notion that it will be so when applied to medicine.

You're not really as dumb as you pose. Rather, your posted idiocies are required to defend your toxic politics.

In the future, consider rethinking your politics instead of publicly debasing yourself.

[boing3887]

umm...fannie and freddie didn't cause the crisis. you need to do some reading. if you look in conservative places like the wall street journal, london financial times, or the christian science monitor, they point out that while fannie and freddie contributed, they weren't the ultimate cause. that was the wall strett firms.

publicly debasing myself? posted idiocies? well, you haven't given any evidence or any reasoned logic i can find. what you're doing is called insults, slanders, ad hominems.

[TylerNull]

There is no excuse for your immaculate ignorance.

NONE.

[boing3887]

i'll use a republican, bushite argument: why do you hate america? barack obama won a majority of the vote and still has the support of the majority of americans and of the world population? why do you oppose america and the world?

opposing health care reform is unamerican bc america has wanted it for a long time (just look at polls). if you oppose obama you're un-american! LOLOL

[TylerNull]

Your expressed idiocy was clear the first time, and it hasn't improved with age. Oh, and it's your "argument", not that of your opposition.

Democrats & Jackasses -- Life Partners

[boing3887]

republicans and ku klux klan - life partners

i can play this game too.

republicans and torture - life partners.

[TylerNull]

Reality isn't a game, jackass.

The Democrats founded the KKK and the Democrats continue to sponsor the KKK. Your top ranking party member, Sen. Byrd, is a former KKK leader.

Dismembering babies with metal implements moments before they take their first breath is torture, not squirting water on someone's face.

[TylerNull]

umm...

"

Tough new regulations forced lenders into high-risk areas where they had no choice but to lower lending standards to make the loans that sound business practices had previously guarded against making. It was either that or face stiff government penalties.

"

-- ibdeditorials

[boing3887]

international business daily? probably one of the more dubious papers. and it's editorial section? why not look at actual data or straight up new reporting, not opinion editorials? wall street journal? christian science monitor? financial times? none of these say "regulations FORCED lenders" to do anything.

perhaps i should quote the NYT or Washington Post editorial section for evidence.

[TylerNull]

In other words, your bout of stupor is a CHOICE. You are depraved.

[boing3887]

how am i in a stupor? and how am i depraved? do you know what depraved means?

it's pretty clear that your a tea partier. well, i can tell you what that does to your credibility, and that from that status as tea partier we can safely assume you're a white, unemployed male who has voted for bush in the past and thinks that nothing that is going wrong today is from bush' presidency. you don't respond to evidence.

stupor means not responding to stimuli, in other words, evidence. IBD editorial, lol

[TylerNull]

Okay, perhaps your stupor wasn't an act. Either way, your politics are toxic to humanity.

[DillonX]

The Republicans have become whores for the Insurance Companies -- SO SAD FOR AMERICA!

[curlylarrymoe]

If you believe its about insurance companies then you have no clue whats going on.

[boing3887]

well, you're right, but so are democrats. we should focus our attention on both parties

[wanchope32]

Yeah now we should focus on it! Now that Dems are in control all these Republican Geniuses come out of the wood work! 'No this is what you should do" What a joke! Just shut up and let the intelligent people run things for a bit! You had your chance and look where we ended up! Just cause you lie doesn't mean your right!

[curlylarrymoe]

You are using old poll numbers. That was from a Survey USA poll in June and it was the highgest one taken at 77%. Even its overinflated numbers has dropped to43% favoring a public option. Try checking your facts, the majority of Americans DO NOT WANT A PUBLIC OPTION!!!!!

[quizerry]

They are calling this reform but it will do nothing to bring down healthcare cost. It will raise it faster then if we do nothing. The U.S. on average has the lowest cost of living, We raid highest in economic freedom, with higher wages and higher rates of economic growth. The poorest 10% here earn more then any other Country. If the Government takes over healthcare you can say good bye to the greatest Country in the world.Next 25% vat tax, high income taxes slow growth like the rest of the world

[patriciaredstone]

The dems are getting brave now. Watch the media follow in the next week or so.

[TylerNutify]

The Republican Party.

Now Serving Big Business,

Donation, Made fresh daily.

[quizerry]

You need to look at the donors to the Democratic Party before you go name calling. They are all bad and corrupt.

[boing3887]

well, you're right, but the same holds for republicans. if you read progressive or leftist blogs you'll find that there's support for the passage of some health care bill but a lot of hatred for the current one. dennis kucinich, who is as left as it gets in congress, voted against the health care bill.

i think you need to do more than research the dirt on democrats. if you look at both parties you find they're all corporate whores

[nighthawk750]

Actually I think Bernie Sanders is as left as it gets in Congress. The only true Socialist in elected national government in the US. God bless him.

[TylerNull]

Nut:

Political donations to candidates & parties, according to FEC data (opensecrets . org), from ...

Business

Democrat: 61%

Republican: 39%

Ideological

Democrat: 74%

Republican: 26%

Democrats & Corporatism -- Life Partners

[boing3887]

yes, you're absolutely right, republicans aren't aligned with big business, only democrats are! the ability to see the flaws in one party while ignoring those same flaws in the other is quite characteristic of the tea parties.

and if you accept the whole "the poor bankers were forced to give loans to poor people" story then you're basically repeating the washington post line.

democrats are pretty bad, but if they are, then republicans are as bad if not worse. iraq, afghanistan, katrina

[jjrglobal]

@boing

I agree with you about both parties sucking, but I think there are a lot of tea party folks that see the same thing, by a lot I mean the majority. At least I hope it is that way. As far as which one sucks worse, Bush or Obama, Obama has brought suckin to a whole new level of never before seen suckiness. .Preemptive Indefinite detention, destruction of Habeas Corpus, hate crime legislation, more troops occupying foreign land, destruction of contractual law and capital formation.Sucktastic

[boing3887]

well, obama is continuing bush policies, but we have to remember that obama wouldn't be able to do alot of the crappy crap he's doing without bush' helping hand. if bush hadn't done half of what he'd done, obama would have to only wish he had the powers he has now.

so yeah i hate obama and didn't vote for him, but he's an improvement over bush. i don't see how anyone can objectively compare obama's current policies with bush' past ones and say "obama takes the cake!" obamas bad, but not as bad

[TheJudgeMan1]

dude, 39 demo voted no because they are bought by the corporations who pay them and pay their bills and put the gas in their cars.

[asphyxiafeeling]

aye. fair enough. i take back my wingnut comment, it was pretty rude.

however, i think 90% of the people against reform (tea party crowd) haven't read the bill either. they've just been told it's a bad thing, and they don't like the Obama admin anyway, so they just dislike it.

90% of the people on BOTH sides are just rooting for their team, without knowing what's going on beyond whatever news sources they follow. I know i've been guilty of it!

Democracy at work!

[TheJudgeMan1]

77% of americans support the public option but dont give a damn in politics. 60% of the population cannot think themselves and dont know what the hell is going on. they just listen to media and accept everything they are told. the founding fathers said that such behavior does not deserve a good goverment, or the people with it dont. as we speak the senate moves against this bill and the american people will be screwed and some of us will die because we get sick and no doctor for us

[asphyxiafeeling]

Great Job! don't listen to the wingnuts. Real reform is long overdue. we're behind the rest of the world when it comes to taking care of each other. You know the rest of the world is LAUGHING at us as we try to find a way to give health coverage to all of our citizens?

[FreeAgain2]

gimme gimme gimme

More 'payola' for Dem supporters.

[robotacon]

My only worry is that the USA is too big of a country to pull this off in a good way. I don't know enough about how the different states are run, will they be able to amend the bill to fit with their needs?

[marick626]

I believe that it it becomes federal law states have to abide by those laws. But I don't know much about these things so I am probably wrong.

[dcn250]

the united states does not have an official language. a national one yes. so it allows anyone in the US to speak whatever language they feel. the government has to supply translators in certain cases.

[grokker]

*woosh* that's the sound of wind blowing over your head.

[laylowfreehumanity]

well i give to you smart guy you win with the grammer, but atlest i got enough sinse to see what coming. im not a fooled by the master manipulators. great job there buddy

[grokker]

Spelling errors: grammar*, at+least*, sense*

Other errors: "to see what coming" you're missing an "is" there.

If you can't handle basic grammar and spelling then I seriously doubt you can handle the complexities of geopolitics, political structures, and the reasons for political institutional evolution. Get your GED, take a few junior college courses, and then come back to youtube to make some more informed comments.

[laylowfreehumanity]

yea you got a point. i havent got any sleep.

[Betty5150]

I knew democrats would get there wish. To bad people who "want" health care reform in the manner of single payer, and they trust the democrats to do this, they failed to realize, the Insurance companies have there lobbyist everywhere. They will profit from this some how.

Of course, you dem's or Republicans DON'T realize that we have no money to spend domestic of foreign.

Say good bye to our currency. hello Fed, please Print lots of money. Hello china, can we borrow some money? Let's even tax.

[grokker]

laylow, if you're going to post under a different account at least remember to fix your spelling errors. there /= their

[Betty5150]

Different account? What am I going to be afraid of here? Some Liberal armed with colorful language? Or maybe a conservative who thinks I agree with them.

[caligularr]

rofl, they're both the same account. so obvious.

[laylowfreehumanity]

American was disgned for small government. do not give government anymore power over anything. god save use if put health in the to the hands of big government if its left or right. i mean this america people its was desighned for small government

[grokker]

you can move out of the country if you don't like it. somalia has no government, it should be heaven for a person like you.

[laylowfreehumanity]

why move world government, in the not to long future, will be every where. after they destroy America the greastest thing standing in there way.

[iamborghini1]

how do you find out who who gets insured with the new plan?

[kevinmjohnstone]

Just awesome.

[zeroten0102]

right on! thank you rep. miller!

[mbjl1758]

this was the best moment - among many- yesterday. His constituents should be proud this morning.

[Ferris0000]

This was my favorite speech of the day of the 12 hours of debates.

[SkeptikSnarf]

"you'll be guaranteed to be left behind tomorrow if your left behind today" pure awesomeness

[hop208]

PURE AWESOMENESS!!!!!

[SuperContinuum]

The Republicans are a disgrace to themeselves, to their party, and to this country. The GOP needs to go the way of Know-Nothings.

[Solange822001]

Exactly. Took the words out of my mouth

[imaevildoctor]

Keep it up Representative Miller. Proud to have you part of our state's delegation.

[wolf99000]

that says it all about republicans and he did it in under 2 mins amazing

[epucek]

Awesome? Flawless kill? This guys is a moron! Right or wrong, he sounds like a high school debate team alternate losing his cool. It's boneheads like this that may lose the fight, whether your bill is the best solution or not.

[Solange822001]

Yeah, millions of people DYING because of lack of healthcare, while the country sits around scratching it's ass, tends to make people emotional. Go figure!

[epucek]

Complete loss of self composure and "emotional" are not the same. I expect more proffesionalism from my elected officials and so should you. And millions of people aren't dying due to lack of health care. If your so frustrated about the ass scratching, head down under the bridge and adopt a couple of homeless crackheads into your policy. Your rates will increase & they'll use the ER at thier leisure. All you'd be doing is cutting out the middle man (your ineffective legislators).

[Eigenvector1]

Awesome. :))

[fishbuc11]

operationhealthfreedom d0 tc 0m

[equiano2357]

Flawless Kill