@shannonmorris People also need to understand that with Capitalism, there are rises and falls in profits. It happens. We just happen to have a tough fall in 08'... Its slowly starting to bounce back up. People expect things to be fixed now which is so unrealistic. Its slowly gaining. Soon, there will be more job growth and the baby boomers are going to be retiring very soon.
@shannonmorris Funny... I didn't hear it on Fox News. Though the Rich giving their money to the left fortunate may have not been the official demands of the movement, people are demanding it. Check out some of their posters... That's your proof right there.
@shannonmorris Yup... Still working for me today... Still making good money, still have my $250K house, bills are all paid, Xmas presents bought for 20 family members, plenty of food in the pantry for a couple months, oh!!... And we already have enough money for our vacation next year AND more!! Yea... I think it's working pretty good for my husband and I!
@towerclimber37 - Listen to me, ok? I am NOT a democrat, so you can give up on that hackneyed approach right now. I am not a fan of Obama, so go ahead and hate him all you want, just try to keep your reasons within the realm of reality. Speaking of reality: I simply cannot believe that after REPEATED instances, you still fail to see any of this as brutality.
@shannonmorris This isn't Capitalism? I went from growing up on a farm with three sister where my parents had to have us work on the farm to help out. I have some college as well as my husband. My mother in law had the kids in rags. Throug hard work we own a beautiful house in a wonderful neighborhood! We don't struggle at all! Capitalism DOES work.
You probably think Obama wants to take all your guns, and yet you defend police brutality when it comes to "disarming" the voice of the Occupy movement.
@towerclimber37 - McCarthy was right, and socialists are ruining America. Wow. I have to STRONGLY disagree. What brought the country to this point is the fact that we have lost our government to money.
I have NO problem with capitalism. In fact, I really do think we should try it.
This is not capitalism. Capitalism is a game played on a level field, not a field bought out by special interests or the team with the most money.
You're probably worried about Obama taking your guns too, and yet...
@shannonmorris There is a video on youtube about Michael Moore's visit to and speach at the Portland Occupy. It was also reported in the news. An individual said Moore was worth 50 million and if he would be willing to give him a million. Moore walked out saying nothing.
@gijanearmy - And your point is? Maybe Moore realized how STUPID it is to suggest that Occupy supporters want to take money from rich people. That is NOT the point of this movement, no matter what Fox News says.
@towerclimber37 You are a dense motherfucker. No I don't want their money. I want them to pay back what they owe to society. What our infrastructure allowed their family to earn. What the workers under their employ allowed them to achieve. They are NOTHING without the workers and even less without the government and to snub that responsibility is more destructive to our society than murder.
@towerclimber37 When the founders talked of limited government, they talking in the context of an all powerful monarch. In the Federalist Papers, Hamilton didn't say government has to be small or weak. He explained the limits on government powers are (1) the internal checks and balances of the 3 branches of government and (2) the external limits of the power to vote.
@towerclimber37 >>Unfortunately, since democrats love unions and big government, it's that much harder to do.
It isn't the unions protecting criminal police.
I'm a democrat. I don't "love" unions. But I recognize that unions have done a huge amount to improve the living and working conditions of us all.
& I don't love "big" government - I support effective government. When corporations have huge powers, government needs to be powerful. Our system needs checks and balances on all big powers
@towerclimber37 - Small businesses are being damaged by both parties. Big businesses (aka big money) are being favored by both parties. It has nothing to do with dem/reps, communists or socialists. (Although there's plenty in the world of corporate welfare) It has to do with MONEY.
With money being the primary interest of politics, the ballot box is broken, and the people have no voice.
Greed is rampant, corruption is rampant, media lies, and you complain about trespassers trying to fix it?
@towerclimber37 Sadly, too many of today's police think they ARE the law and that they are the dispensers of judgement, justice and punishment.
There are many fine cops - I know some. But there are also many who are lawless and more who sadly protect their lawless brothers and sisters, who are aiding and abetting their abuses of power..
@towerclimber37 - Not that it's anyone's business but my own, I voted for Obama largely for the same reason I watched Lost. I knew it was going to be a train wreck, but I just had to see for myself. If I turned out to be wrong, great! Being a pessimist, I actually love being proven wrong. Because of the appointments of people like Jeffrey Immelt and Michael Taylor, I am severely disappointed. Yes, Obama has done PLENTY of things that I disagree with, but sending jobs overseas is not one of them.
@towerclimber37 - Do you think this is a partisan issue? If you do, then YOU are the one who is giving your tax dollars to a system that has you fooled. Please, explain to me how the democrats alone allowed GE and Bank of America to pay no taxes. This sort of thing has been going on since Reagan.
@towerclimber37 Thanks for understanding that I wasn't attacking you and having a civilized response. For some reason people think that when you disagree with a statement they made or feel the mean to correct them, they take it as an attack. Thank you for seeing my intent.
@gijanearmy - I believe you are mistaken about him ever saying that millionaires should give their money away to other people. Millionaires should pay their fair share. Did you know that there are millionaires collecting unemployment? Do you think that's OK?
@inademv And the OWS has pointed out and has speakers say that the millionares should give their money to people. Some of these speakers who has spoken to the OWS movement are millionares... And they won't practice what they preach. I'm against this class warefare and the anti-semetic that is being thrown out there.
@inademv Nice of you to jump in. I've read many stuff about millionares who did not go to college, but moved up from on the job training and their own intellect. Yes there are some greedy and corrupt people. I'm not denying that. I'm pointing out the fact that from what I've seen, people with OWS want "a piece of the pie". You get that from hard work.
Pepper spray is supposed to be an alternative to lethal force. Officers who use it as a compliance tool are using excessive force and ought to lose their jobs.
@KIMLAPHAM People also have to remember that this a majority of the world having this crisis. I honestly believe that we are seeing the shift of super powers. This issue can be fixed, but we can't don't it by "class warfare" I hate when people think someone is a crook just because they worked hard, saved, and invested to be sitting good.
@gijanearmy Except those people aren't the ones who are cheating and rigging the system and thus aren't the target of the protests. Do you even think about what you're typing before you click post? Koch bros for example got their money by inheritance and are using it to buy off regulators and politicians. They have not worked hard, saved, nor invested to the benefit of anyone but themselves. They are scum and the people who stand up for them are scum.
@KIMLAPHAM Yes everybody has their freedom of speech and come together to work on this economic issue. Communism and Socialism just go against our checks and balances of government and what the Constitution has set up. They aren't wrong for having their beliefs, its just been proven in history that it doesn't work and I don't think those are the solutions.
@KIMLAPHAM I agree that there is a homeless problem and that society hasn't helped out those with mental disorders. I've come across people who didn't choose to be homeless and work very hard to get back on their feet and I've come across people who are so involved in drugs and alcohol that even though they have been through programs still choose to live that lifestyle.
@towerclimber37 See a lot of us supporters of the movement are not CRAZIES or ANARCHIST....I love my country, I love the constitution. I just believe our country has been over thrown by corporations and I want justice for those treasonous @ssholes. Peace be with you
its not against the law to protest. It is against the law to hurt people ..well unless your the police I guess? Am I wrong? (time will tell) Thanks for showing that Office SB and D14 talk about spraying person first ( 1:27 ) and how this video also shows SB spraying ( 1:33 ) with out legal reason to do so (by law) - Good job documenting this police abuse. ~joe anybody
@towerclimber37 - You have no idea what you're talking about. I have a job, and a good one at that. I need NOTHING from anyone, but I demand justice for ALL. If you allow a police state, you will receive what you deserve.
"You dirty hippies are all about peace love and gimme something for nothing" - And you tell ME to be civil? Fuck you. How's that for civil, asshole?
@KIMLAPHAM I choose not to go to one because I work too much and the free time I have spend with my husband and children. I don't agree with the camping, blocking streets, and occupying banks. I feel a lot of these people want hand outs or the government to step in more which from my readings is socialism. Anarchist and communist groups have also been welcomed. This goes against the Constitution in my belief.
@gijanearmy I can understand the not having enough time, I am a mother and wife myself....I see the camping as a symbol of, not only ppl coming together (unity) but also the damage WS has done to the ppl. I don't believe we should criminalize Homelessness. I believe we should work together to find a solution for the problems that cause Homelessness. A lot of these ppl are homeless not by their own choice, but because of WS. It is safer for these ppl to camp together and I don't think we should
@gijanearmy Cont.....deny them that. It has given me so much hope and faith back in humanity because these ppl, democrats, republicans, communist, socialist, christains, Muslims, budists, atheist ect ect. have come together regardless of their different beliefs, because they all share 1 common belief above all else and that is HUMANITY. They welcomed the long forgotten homeless and feed, sheltered, and provided medical care for them, when society has long forgotten them. They didn't have a
@gijanearmy Cont....voice they no longer mattered and OWS has given that back to them. I think that blocking a st. is fine as long as cops know ahead of time to be able to divert traffic and it is only one st. at a time (it helps get the word out). As for Occupying Banks, well I am not sure how I feel about it. I understand it and it does bring awareness to the movement. If you look at it this way, ask urself how many banks have illegally foreclosed on ppls homes and r occupying them illegally?
@gijanearmy Cont...As for ppl with beliefs in socialism, communism,ect. ect., I don't believe this goes against our constitution at all. That is the beautiful thing about our constitution, the 1st amendment gives everyone the right to be free thinkers and express their beliefs. " I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire 1694-1778. Peace be with you and yours my friend, our world has some rough times ahead....
@towerclimber37 What you don't seem to understand is that I was responding to another persons comment to me, regarding my comment about not trusting cops ever again and Whatiswrongwithus Told me to wait until I was a victim of crime or Raped....(I told you to find the comment but I guess you just like wasting ur words).. You continue to assume a lot about me....I think it is very responsible of me if I choose to shoot my attacker, it helps the cops out and other law abiding citizens too ;))
@towerclimber37 You may not have ment for your message to come off this way, but any Gunowner knows that the Second Amendment is a Right and Responsibility. There are many people who don't like guns but understand that statement and just don't want that responsibility.
@KIMLAPHAM Unfortinately, we have elected ppl to represent us for taxation and such and they are doing a poor job. I believe in the original message of the movement, but it is clouded with socalistic ideals. I don't agree with how they are going about things. Just because I don't agree with them doesn't mean I'm mocking them. There are plenty of comments mocking them, but I am not so no shame for me.
@gijanearmy Yes we have elected ppl to represent us, but it not that they are doing a poor job, it's that they are not representing us at all. If you believe in the original message of ows, why don't you go to a GA and speak? maybe u could help change things back around. All I can say is at least OWS is trying to change things. What are u doing to try and change this f'd up mess of a system? I don't see this movement as political CLASS. I see many diff ppl w/ diff Political views, religion ect
@KIMLAPHAM And I believe you are quick to jump at my comment to assume that I'm all about the big corporations. My oath is to the constitution of the United States. I understand the rights of the protesters, and I know that theirs end when they infinge on the rights of others. You'd probably be surprised... If you and I sat down over a cup of coffee, you'd be surprised by how much I'm not "brainwashed"
@KIMLAPHAM cont... Was it maybe an overkill to bock off the entire block. Possibly. But at the point where you continue to tell people to back up and they continue to push back with their bodies, the telling and pushing back doesn't work and you have to use a different tactic.
@KIMLAPHAM First off I miss read what you typed and thought you said "we were being told..." And for that I appologize. Secondly, I do know what it is like for all the rights, but from what I saw from other videos posted by others. They moved away very quickly. I don't know if you know what its like to be facing hundreds of protesters, and there are 20 of you (cops) trying to keep them away from the banks or maybe you do know.
@KIMLAPHAM You should have listened to the officers on the ground. If they were telling you to get back, move away from them while trying to stay on the sidewalk. There were protesters pushing up against the officers with their body. I think it was justified to deploy pepperspray.
@gijanearmy YOU have ASSUMED I was there.....What I saw in the VIDEO was cops pushing people into a crowd of people....You do know that it is hard to move when others are pushing back on you...Right? You do realize that being pushed from both directions makes it hard to breathe...Right? I don't believe cops should use pepper spray unless their's or someone else's life is IMMEDIATE DANGER. She was on the sidewalk, she has a right to be there, to speak freely..They didn't need to close a whole
@gijanearmy Cont.....block to remove the arrested from a bank....#OVERKILL The whole problem here is ppl like you with ur militarized way of thinking. If you are in the Army that is a scary thought, you took an oath to protect the ppl NOT the corporations that now control our government. Did you forget why the USA fought against British rule..."NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION". These ppl are protesting for ur rights too and you all mock them...SHAME!
@towerclimber37 LMFAO Don't get ur big girl panties in a bunch....Go find the comment I was responding to from Whatiswrongwithus......WOW you are so gung ho and by the way the were being told two different things from the cops in front of them and over PA LOL.....Why don't you see if you can climb that tower a little higher lol
@towerclimber37 - Since you're so DAMNED concerned about the law, how about this one?
Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment.....
Sgt. Jeff McDaniel at Portland Police Bureau's East Precinct, located at 737 SE 106th is the office implicated in this senseless pepper spray incident
Update 11/19: Police have identified the officer who sprayed Nichols as Sergeant Jeff McDaniel. (McDaniel was a ride-along guide two years ago for one of our writers.)
there was NO warning. I was there and furthermore she was hit in the throat the second before she was sprayed presumably to voice of the mistreatment. We were being pushed from our backsides and from the front with riot police. The officer deserves to be demoted at the very least and fired at best. Sergeants don't get to make a lapse in judgement like this without serious consequences
Lieutenant Robert King, police spokesman, tells me the whole operation arose to clear the way for the arrests inside the Chase branch on 6th and Yamhill. He also said the bureau is investigating whether individual officers issued pepper spray warnings and acknowledged that the directions given to some marchers, between the bureau's PA van and officers, may have been confusing.
Sgt. Jeff McDaniel at Portland Police Bureau's East Precinct, located at 737 SE 106th is the office implicated in this senseless pepper spray incident
@towerclimber37 It doesn't surprise me in the least that you think this way. First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win. I join the occupiers in non-violent resistance. You join the police in "whacking fat heads". I've already won.
@matttylove2 Sgt. Jeff McDaniel at Portland Police Bureau's East Precinct, located at 737 SE 106th is the office implicated in this senseless pepper spray incident
@tarafoster28 LOL! Cooks wrote that you were a liberal arts major, and your defense is that you are a "professor" (with a liberal arts degree). Pathetic idiot scum.
The best word choice a "professor" can come up with is "busted out"....LOL! What a joke you are.
@mattman154 no bro im 22 but still i h8 hippies and lazy whiny fags so yea they should pepper sprayed and owned 24/7 until they fuk off back to working at mcdonalds and dat dere subway..
@klotweev - So you weigh good vs evil by which group of people you hate less. that's nice. perhaps you would be better off paying attention to what people have in common, like a corrupt system that needs our attention. all of us, not just the dirty hippies.
You don't need to close down an entire sidewalk to clear a doorway and put someone in a car. This is just a bad excuse the police are using to justify their actions against the occupy movement.
United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1876), the Supreme Court said that the "right of the people peaceably to assemble for the purpose of petitioning Congress for a redress of grievances, or for anything else connected with the powers and duties of the national government, is an attribute of national citizenship, and as such, under the protection of, and guaranteed by, the United States." The high court applied the liberty only to any federal government's encroachment.
De Jonge v. Oregon, 299 U.S 353 (1937), the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the right to peaceably assemble "for lawful discussion, however unpopular the sponsorship, cannot be made a crime." The decision applied the First Amendment right of peaceful assembly to the states through the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Edwards v. South Carolina, 372 U.S. 229 (1963), in an 8-to-1 decision, the high court overturned the breach of peace convictions of 180 black students who had peacefully marched to the state capitol to protest discrimination. The police stopped the demonstration and arrested the students because they were afraid that the 200-300 who gathered to watch the demonstration might cause a riot.
The court held the state law unconstitutionally over-broad because it penalized the exercise of free speech, peaceable assembly, and the right of petition for a redress of grievances. A disorderly crowd, or the fear of one, cannot be used to stop a peaceful demonstration or cancel the right of peaceable assembly.
Portland Police need to be commended on how they have been handling these protests. In no way can it be easy working long hours putting up with being spit on and cursed by the same people you have sworn to protect. I can only assume everyone on here leaving negative comments about the PPB have a warped sense of reality.
Thornhill v. Alabama, 310 U.S. 88 (1940), the Supreme Court held that orderly union picketing that informs the public of issues is protected by the constitutional freedom of speech of the press and the right of peaceable assembly and cannot be prosecuted under state loitering and picketing laws.
Hague v. C.I.O., 307 U.S. 496 (1939), the high court ruled that peaceful demonstrators may not be prosecuted for "disorderly conduct." This case also secured streets and sidewalks as public forums.
@a1m33frank The poor people working in the bank probably didn't let him in cuz they either thought he was a protester or that they had locked up shop due to all the protesting. Also, the small businesses in the area are hurting due to all of the protests. Please find a different way to protest because this is not helping your cause or the businesses in downtown.
I know a lot of people don't know this from watching the video, but the reason the police were at this specific point the the sidewalk and was pushing was due to a Chase Bank behind them in which protestors were trying to occupy. Freedom of speech ends when you hinder another's rights. People wanted to do banking and couldn't because of protesters. People wanted to work at their businesses in the area, but were forced to close because of protesters blocking the way.
@gijanearmy We were in the entrance area of chase bank when this was happening. A man entered and needed to use the bank. Most peaceful protesters left that area so the man could speak. He asked to be let in and we all...the protesters agreed to leave in order for him to do his banking. But they would not let him in.
@gijanearmy yep as a matter of fact there were cops inside the bank arresting the filth there when the officers who grabbed her took her into the bank to get her cleaned up.
Hello, Portland Police! If it isn't clear from all of these comments, the people of Portland are disappointed with and angry at you. We are realizing more and more that you are NOT our protectors and NOT our allies, and are instead a tool of the 1%. I encourage you to make the smart decision and change sides-- join us, join the right side of history! Your conduct only shows us that we are winning. Don't push us any more-- like in Egypt, we will eventually show you what happens when we are pushed
@TRBtree dear portland police! keep up the good work! we look forward to the day that we can walk the streets without fear of the "ows" mob. also, would love to see the tazer shockwave deployed!
@TRBtree Well, if that's the case, it's sad, because it means the people of Portland are idiots. But to the Portland police, the rest of the country loves you but wishes you were a little more liberal with your pepper spray and night sticks.
If it isn't clear from all of these comments, the people of Portland are disappointed with and angry at you. We are realizing more and more that you are NOT our protectors and NOT our allies, and are instead a tool of the 1%. I encourage you to make the smart decision and change sides-- join us, join the right side of history! Your conduct only shows us that we are winning. Don't push us any more-- like in Egypt, we will eventually show you what happens when we are pushed
This country is polarized like never before. It scares me to think about what will happen when positive change does not occur. People will only become more upset and angry. What then? How far will the police go to "protect" the city? What you are witnessing here is a disgrace to EVERYTHING America stands for. I was at these protests. The police presence bred tension and fear. Never have I ever seen police officers so willing and eager to engage US citizens. The police need to CALM down.
@Chris22090 All protesters have the right to assemble and have freedom of speech. Regardless of whether you agree with the cause, you cannot deny each and every persons constitutional rights. The excessive police presence only agitates the situation. If people lose the right to assemble and protests injustice, then America truly has failed as a democracy.
@armory0812 You are right. You do have a right, BUT freedom of speech does not mean you can break the law. ? Police are only there to keep order. If you really dont want them to be there then its best to go home. You already lost this game - Had lost it ever since you tore up parks, threw that firework at police and blocking traffic,
@Chris22090 You are not understanding what is really happening down there. There are a few out of thousands who provoke police. There was 1 person who through a firework. I am not saying police shouldn't be present at all, I am merely suggesting that they scale down there aggressive behavior and shows of force. There is no need for riot gear. The majority of us have been peaceful AND followed the laws. Whether we can this civil disobedience or not, I do not think it is fair to lump the entire ..
Crowd into one giant stereotype. I agree that people need to act in accordance with the law, and if they decided to push the limits, then they risk the consequences. BUT. The consequences we have seen over these past few days are far more intense than they need be. I understand the police have a job to do, but to what end? Lastly, I would argue that we haven't "lost this game." If anything, people are waking up and becoming more aware of the issues at hand. THAT is a win
@armory0812@armory0812 They are waking up because thats all we see on the news. We see it when we need to get somewhere in Portland and you are blocking traffic. Many people use these roads and bridges to get to work and you are so selfish that you block their way.
but hey, never mind that. After all you protest at a bank and yet you take money from them
@Chris22090 Almost everyone I spoke to removed their money from big banks like Chase and put it in local credit unions. It is unfortunate that while demonstrating we affected transportation. That is very insignificant though. Look at the big picture, read and research and stop getting all your information from the forth branch of the government...FOX News...etc!!!!!!
Portland police you are a disgrace to this country....PERIOD! I do not live in Portland but I do live in Oregon...I have not joined the occupy protest as of yet, I am now thinking about it though....After all the POLICE VIOLENCE I have SEEN in the last few weeks, I WILL NEVER TRUST A POLICE OFFICER AGAIN!! In my opinion U R NOT part of the 99% U have SOLD OUT and quite cheaply too. This has nothing to do with ur job this is a MORAL ISSUE...where is ur conscience...PSYCHOPATH? SOLIDARITY OCCUPY
Keep this comment in mind next time you are a victim of a crime. Cops put their lives on the line everyday to protect people such as yourself and rather cheaply according to your comment. Use a little more logic in your future comments.
@whatiswrongwithus No worries the Constitution also gives me the 2nd Amendment right to PROTECT MYSELF and I am NOT afraid to exercise that one either.....;))
I am fully on the side of Portland Police. I like to think my tax dollars paid for the pepper spray that went into Elizabeth's face. Occupy PDX, you have to obey the law. You disobey, you pay....the Portland Police and the county with your tickets.
Remember, Anyone can own a Taser, besides Police, so can WE!!!....If anyone is in Scottsdale, AZ, tell those guys (@Taser) to ship some up here for the Protesters!
Officers B11 hits SHOVES LIKE A WOMAN. Officer B9 probably is a woman and from what I can see, instigated or provoked the victim, which her consequences resulted her to be pepper sprayed? That small person (B9) totally struck her first without provocation. Police in general, have Power Trip issues.
These officers suck!
The tax payers pay their salaries. Lets outsource their jobs too, then they will join us!!
The police in this country really have lost touch with reality if they think this video helps their case. How does it feel to be beating on your own people on behalf of the 1% who care nothing for you? SHAME ON YOU!
It should not be illegal to be in the street. It's a natural place to be. For 5,000 years of cities people were always in the street. It's just for the last 80 years, or so, that's it's become a dangerous place for people to be. Equality is streets for everyone
This video explicitly reveals cops pepper-spraying at point blank peaceful protesters who are ON the sidewalk, for... ignoring their order to get on to the sidewalk? Nope, no reason. The only order broadcast was to get onto the sidewalk, not to disperse. These clearly-not-rioting protesters were in fact abiding your directions, and you attacked them for it. Keep it coming, PPD, you're the best recruitment tool we've got.
Can anyone figure out which officer assaulted her? We should find out whether he was from Portland Police Bureau or what. I hope Ms. Nichols contacts the Independent Police Review Board, and knows that Portland's City Charter Review Commission would like to hear about the need to make IPRB truly independent so that police misconduct becomes more obvious.
This video clearly shows that as demonstrators were being ordered to "vacate the street or be subject to arrest," they were being pushed into the street. Mike Reese thinks he's going to be our next mayor treating people like this? Of course, he will have the money to buy the election, since we no longer have publicly-financed elections. Even if he can buy it, does he think we won't occupy EVERYWHERE HE GOES???
Other then the journalists taking photos, the police, and people crossing the road, I'm not seeing people in the streets. I see people on the sidewalks with officers trying to ride their horses down the sidewalk as well.
Wow. You people should hire better PR people. This video shows exactly the opposite of what you have been claiming. Police are shoving people off the streets into the max line, and then they pepper spray them for not being on the sidewalk. Where is the police video of the pepper spray? Please release all the videos which are the property of the people of Portland.
So you tell them to stay on the sidewalks, they stay on the sidewalks, well shoot, now how are you gonna get your jollies, oh I know, push em into the street, make sure to get that spray ready, I'm gonna use it on someone darnit!
She was clearly on the sidewalk, where they were told to be, you police were pushing the crown who was on the sidewalk, the police were causing this issue, not the protesters.
@shannonmorris People also need to understand that with Capitalism, there are rises and falls in profits. It happens. We just happen to have a tough fall in 08'... Its slowly starting to bounce back up. People expect things to be fixed now which is so unrealistic. Its slowly gaining. Soon, there will be more job growth and the baby boomers are going to be retiring very soon.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@shannonmorris Funny... I didn't hear it on Fox News. Though the Rich giving their money to the left fortunate may have not been the official demands of the movement, people are demanding it. Check out some of their posters... That's your proof right there.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@shannonmorris Yup... Still working for me today... Still making good money, still have my $250K house, bills are all paid, Xmas presents bought for 20 family members, plenty of food in the pantry for a couple months, oh!!... And we already have enough money for our vacation next year AND more!! Yea... I think it's working pretty good for my husband and I!
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 - Listen to me, ok? I am NOT a democrat, so you can give up on that hackneyed approach right now. I am not a fan of Obama, so go ahead and hate him all you want, just try to keep your reasons within the realm of reality. Speaking of reality: I simply cannot believe that after REPEATED instances, you still fail to see any of this as brutality.
shannonmorris 3 months ago
@shannonmorris This isn't Capitalism? I went from growing up on a farm with three sister where my parents had to have us work on the farm to help out. I have some college as well as my husband. My mother in law had the kids in rags. Throug hard work we own a beautiful house in a wonderful neighborhood! We don't struggle at all! Capitalism DOES work.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@gijanearmy - It worked a lot better before 2008. Try it again today, and see how well things work out for you.
shannonmorris 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 (Getting back on topic)
You probably think Obama wants to take all your guns, and yet you defend police brutality when it comes to "disarming" the voice of the Occupy movement.
shannonmorris 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 - McCarthy was right, and socialists are ruining America. Wow. I have to STRONGLY disagree. What brought the country to this point is the fact that we have lost our government to money.
I have NO problem with capitalism. In fact, I really do think we should try it.
This is not capitalism. Capitalism is a game played on a level field, not a field bought out by special interests or the team with the most money.
You're probably worried about Obama taking your guns too, and yet...
shannonmorris 3 months ago
@shannonmorris There is a video on youtube about Michael Moore's visit to and speach at the Portland Occupy. It was also reported in the news. An individual said Moore was worth 50 million and if he would be willing to give him a million. Moore walked out saying nothing.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@gijanearmy - And your point is? Maybe Moore realized how STUPID it is to suggest that Occupy supporters want to take money from rich people. That is NOT the point of this movement, no matter what Fox News says.
shannonmorris 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 You are a dense motherfucker. No I don't want their money. I want them to pay back what they owe to society. What our infrastructure allowed their family to earn. What the workers under their employ allowed them to achieve. They are NOTHING without the workers and even less without the government and to snub that responsibility is more destructive to our society than murder.
inademv 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 When the founders talked of limited government, they talking in the context of an all powerful monarch. In the Federalist Papers, Hamilton didn't say government has to be small or weak. He explained the limits on government powers are (1) the internal checks and balances of the 3 branches of government and (2) the external limits of the power to vote.
See rjw-progressive.blogspot.com/2011/01/what-limited-government-means.html
paradigm918 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 >>Unfortunately, since democrats love unions and big government, it's that much harder to do.
It isn't the unions protecting criminal police.
I'm a democrat. I don't "love" unions. But I recognize that unions have done a huge amount to improve the living and working conditions of us all.
& I don't love "big" government - I support effective government. When corporations have huge powers, government needs to be powerful. Our system needs checks and balances on all big powers
paradigm918 3 months ago
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@towerclimber37 "and you wonder why we're in this shape?" Because EVERYTHING was so much better before Obama came along, right?
You sound like you've been listening to too much Fox News. Communists, socialists. I thought McCarthyism was over.
shannonmorris 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 - Small businesses are being damaged by both parties. Big businesses (aka big money) are being favored by both parties. It has nothing to do with dem/reps, communists or socialists. (Although there's plenty in the world of corporate welfare) It has to do with MONEY.
With money being the primary interest of politics, the ballot box is broken, and the people have no voice.
Greed is rampant, corruption is rampant, media lies, and you complain about trespassers trying to fix it?
shannonmorris 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 Sadly, too many of today's police think they ARE the law and that they are the dispensers of judgement, justice and punishment.
There are many fine cops - I know some. But there are also many who are lawless and more who sadly protect their lawless brothers and sisters, who are aiding and abetting their abuses of power..
paradigm918 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 - Not that it's anyone's business but my own, I voted for Obama largely for the same reason I watched Lost. I knew it was going to be a train wreck, but I just had to see for myself. If I turned out to be wrong, great! Being a pessimist, I actually love being proven wrong. Because of the appointments of people like Jeffrey Immelt and Michael Taylor, I am severely disappointed. Yes, Obama has done PLENTY of things that I disagree with, but sending jobs overseas is not one of them.
shannonmorris 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 - Do you think this is a partisan issue? If you do, then YOU are the one who is giving your tax dollars to a system that has you fooled. Please, explain to me how the democrats alone allowed GE and Bank of America to pay no taxes. This sort of thing has been going on since Reagan.
shannonmorris 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 Thanks for understanding that I wasn't attacking you and having a civilized response. For some reason people think that when you disagree with a statement they made or feel the mean to correct them, they take it as an attack. Thank you for seeing my intent.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@shannonmorris Here's your one: Michael Moore
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@gijanearmy - I believe you are mistaken about him ever saying that millionaires should give their money away to other people. Millionaires should pay their fair share. Did you know that there are millionaires collecting unemployment? Do you think that's OK?
shannonmorris 3 months ago
@shannonmorris ya i realize cops suk ass but i'm having a real inner struggle and not wanting to see hippies get laid out
ab0d3ba093 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 - Oh nice, the "love it or leave it" card. How about caring enough about this country to want to make it better?
Votes? Guess what? OUR votes don't count when politicians only answer to money. That's ONE of the things that needs to be fixed for ALL of us.
shannonmorris 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 - I would usually go to some trouble to prove you wrong, but you are not worth my time. Enjoy your police state.
shannonmorris 3 months ago
>>The Police Bureau is releasing a police video that contains this incident in an effort to remain transparent to the community.
Sadly, what is transparent is that today;'s police are about assertions of raw poer and no longer about serving and protecting.
paradigm918 3 months ago
@inademv And the OWS has pointed out and has speakers say that the millionares should give their money to people. Some of these speakers who has spoken to the OWS movement are millionares... And they won't practice what they preach. I'm against this class warefare and the anti-semetic that is being thrown out there.
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@gijanearmy said "speakers say that the millionares should give their money to people."
Name one.
I make my own money, and I pay all my taxes, unlike Bank of America and GE, who are rewarded by the American taxpayers for hiring overseas.
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kopellhinex 2 months ago
@inademv Nice of you to jump in. I've read many stuff about millionares who did not go to college, but moved up from on the job training and their own intellect. Yes there are some greedy and corrupt people. I'm not denying that. I'm pointing out the fact that from what I've seen, people with OWS want "a piece of the pie". You get that from hard work.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
Pepper spray is supposed to be an alternative to lethal force. Officers who use it as a compliance tool are using excessive force and ought to lose their jobs.
inademv 3 months ago
A Lt. John Pike in training (uc davis)
nookyes 3 months ago
@KIMLAPHAM People also have to remember that this a majority of the world having this crisis. I honestly believe that we are seeing the shift of super powers. This issue can be fixed, but we can't don't it by "class warfare" I hate when people think someone is a crook just because they worked hard, saved, and invested to be sitting good.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@gijanearmy Except those people aren't the ones who are cheating and rigging the system and thus aren't the target of the protests. Do you even think about what you're typing before you click post? Koch bros for example got their money by inheritance and are using it to buy off regulators and politicians. They have not worked hard, saved, nor invested to the benefit of anyone but themselves. They are scum and the people who stand up for them are scum.
inademv 3 months ago
@KIMLAPHAM Yes everybody has their freedom of speech and come together to work on this economic issue. Communism and Socialism just go against our checks and balances of government and what the Constitution has set up. They aren't wrong for having their beliefs, its just been proven in history that it doesn't work and I don't think those are the solutions.
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dannycandor 3 months ago
@KIMLAPHAM I agree that there is a homeless problem and that society hasn't helped out those with mental disorders. I've come across people who didn't choose to be homeless and work very hard to get back on their feet and I've come across people who are so involved in drugs and alcohol that even though they have been through programs still choose to live that lifestyle.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 See a lot of us supporters of the movement are not CRAZIES or ANARCHIST....I love my country, I love the constitution. I just believe our country has been over thrown by corporations and I want justice for those treasonous @ssholes. Peace be with you
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its not against the law to protest. It is against the law to hurt people ..well unless your the police I guess? Am I wrong? (time will tell) Thanks for showing that Office SB and D14 talk about spraying person first ( 1:27 ) and how this video also shows SB spraying ( 1:33 ) with out legal reason to do so (by law) - Good job documenting this police abuse. ~joe anybody
zebra334 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 - You have no idea what you're talking about. I have a job, and a good one at that. I need NOTHING from anyone, but I demand justice for ALL. If you allow a police state, you will receive what you deserve.
"You dirty hippies are all about peace love and gimme something for nothing" - And you tell ME to be civil? Fuck you. How's that for civil, asshole?
shannonmorris 3 months ago
@KIMLAPHAM I choose not to go to one because I work too much and the free time I have spend with my husband and children. I don't agree with the camping, blocking streets, and occupying banks. I feel a lot of these people want hand outs or the government to step in more which from my readings is socialism. Anarchist and communist groups have also been welcomed. This goes against the Constitution in my belief.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@gijanearmy I can understand the not having enough time, I am a mother and wife myself....I see the camping as a symbol of, not only ppl coming together (unity) but also the damage WS has done to the ppl. I don't believe we should criminalize Homelessness. I believe we should work together to find a solution for the problems that cause Homelessness. A lot of these ppl are homeless not by their own choice, but because of WS. It is safer for these ppl to camp together and I don't think we should
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@gijanearmy Cont.....deny them that. It has given me so much hope and faith back in humanity because these ppl, democrats, republicans, communist, socialist, christains, Muslims, budists, atheist ect ect. have come together regardless of their different beliefs, because they all share 1 common belief above all else and that is HUMANITY. They welcomed the long forgotten homeless and feed, sheltered, and provided medical care for them, when society has long forgotten them. They didn't have a
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@gijanearmy Cont....voice they no longer mattered and OWS has given that back to them. I think that blocking a st. is fine as long as cops know ahead of time to be able to divert traffic and it is only one st. at a time (it helps get the word out). As for Occupying Banks, well I am not sure how I feel about it. I understand it and it does bring awareness to the movement. If you look at it this way, ask urself how many banks have illegally foreclosed on ppls homes and r occupying them illegally?
KIMLAPHAM 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@gijanearmy Cont...As for ppl with beliefs in socialism, communism,ect. ect., I don't believe this goes against our constitution at all. That is the beautiful thing about our constitution, the 1st amendment gives everyone the right to be free thinkers and express their beliefs. " I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire 1694-1778. Peace be with you and yours my friend, our world has some rough times ahead....
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@towerclimber37 What you don't seem to understand is that I was responding to another persons comment to me, regarding my comment about not trusting cops ever again and Whatiswrongwithus Told me to wait until I was a victim of crime or Raped....(I told you to find the comment but I guess you just like wasting ur words).. You continue to assume a lot about me....I think it is very responsible of me if I choose to shoot my attacker, it helps the cops out and other law abiding citizens too ;))
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@towerclimber37 You may not have ment for your message to come off this way, but any Gunowner knows that the Second Amendment is a Right and Responsibility. There are many people who don't like guns but understand that statement and just don't want that responsibility.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@KIMLAPHAM Unfortinately, we have elected ppl to represent us for taxation and such and they are doing a poor job. I believe in the original message of the movement, but it is clouded with socalistic ideals. I don't agree with how they are going about things. Just because I don't agree with them doesn't mean I'm mocking them. There are plenty of comments mocking them, but I am not so no shame for me.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@gijanearmy Yes we have elected ppl to represent us, but it not that they are doing a poor job, it's that they are not representing us at all. If you believe in the original message of ows, why don't you go to a GA and speak? maybe u could help change things back around. All I can say is at least OWS is trying to change things. What are u doing to try and change this f'd up mess of a system? I don't see this movement as political CLASS. I see many diff ppl w/ diff Political views, religion ect
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@KIMLAPHAM And I believe you are quick to jump at my comment to assume that I'm all about the big corporations. My oath is to the constitution of the United States. I understand the rights of the protesters, and I know that theirs end when they infinge on the rights of others. You'd probably be surprised... If you and I sat down over a cup of coffee, you'd be surprised by how much I'm not "brainwashed"
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@KIMLAPHAM cont... Was it maybe an overkill to bock off the entire block. Possibly. But at the point where you continue to tell people to back up and they continue to push back with their bodies, the telling and pushing back doesn't work and you have to use a different tactic.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@KIMLAPHAM First off I miss read what you typed and thought you said "we were being told..." And for that I appologize. Secondly, I do know what it is like for all the rights, but from what I saw from other videos posted by others. They moved away very quickly. I don't know if you know what its like to be facing hundreds of protesters, and there are 20 of you (cops) trying to keep them away from the banks or maybe you do know.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@KIMLAPHAM You should have listened to the officers on the ground. If they were telling you to get back, move away from them while trying to stay on the sidewalk. There were protesters pushing up against the officers with their body. I think it was justified to deploy pepperspray.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@gijanearmy YOU have ASSUMED I was there.....What I saw in the VIDEO was cops pushing people into a crowd of people....You do know that it is hard to move when others are pushing back on you...Right? You do realize that being pushed from both directions makes it hard to breathe...Right? I don't believe cops should use pepper spray unless their's or someone else's life is IMMEDIATE DANGER. She was on the sidewalk, she has a right to be there, to speak freely..They didn't need to close a whole
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@gijanearmy Cont.....block to remove the arrested from a bank....#OVERKILL The whole problem here is ppl like you with ur militarized way of thinking. If you are in the Army that is a scary thought, you took an oath to protect the ppl NOT the corporations that now control our government. Did you forget why the USA fought against British rule..."NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION". These ppl are protesting for ur rights too and you all mock them...SHAME!
KIMLAPHAM 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@towerclimber37 LMFAO Don't get ur big girl panties in a bunch....Go find the comment I was responding to from Whatiswrongwithus......WOW you are so gung ho and by the way the were being told two different things from the cops in front of them and over PA LOL.....Why don't you see if you can climb that tower a little higher lol
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Why is the Portland photo even more iconic? It's a SERGEANT who committed this act. A "Lt. John Pike in training" Ya know the UC DAVIS officer
nookyes 3 months ago
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Why is the Portland photo even more iconic? It's a SERGEANT who committed this act. A "Lt. John Pike in training"
nookyes 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 Spot on.
Redlegarty 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 - Since you're so DAMNED concerned about the law, how about this one?
Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment.....
Again - GO TO HELL.
shannonmorris 3 months ago
@towerclimber37 - Go to hell.
shannonmorris 3 months ago
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Sgt. Jeff McDaniel at Portland Police Bureau's East Precinct, located at 737 SE 106th is the office implicated in this senseless pepper spray incident
Update 11/19: Police have identified the officer who sprayed Nichols as Sergeant Jeff McDaniel. (McDaniel was a ride-along guide two years ago for one of our writers.)
nookyes 3 months ago
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Nboun 3 months ago
there was NO warning. I was there and furthermore she was hit in the throat the second before she was sprayed presumably to voice of the mistreatment. We were being pushed from our backsides and from the front with riot police. The officer deserves to be demoted at the very least and fired at best. Sergeants don't get to make a lapse in judgement like this without serious consequences
nookyes 3 months ago 2
Lieutenant Robert King, police spokesman, tells me the whole operation arose to clear the way for the arrests inside the Chase branch on 6th and Yamhill. He also said the bureau is investigating whether individual officers issued pepper spray warnings and acknowledged that the directions given to some marchers, between the bureau's PA van and officers, may have been confusing.
nookyes 3 months ago 4
Portland police ADMITTED they gave us two conflicting orders simultaneously. We were on the sidewalk.
nookyes 3 months ago 8
@nookyes Hope ya got sprayed! Hope it hurt and forced you to go home and take a shower! All the best! :)
Redlegarty 3 months ago
Sgt. Jeff McDaniel at Portland Police Bureau's East Precinct, located at 737 SE 106th is the office implicated in this senseless pepper spray incident
nookyes 3 months ago 2
Typical NAZI Police State Brutality!
magneto1166 3 months ago
@magneto1166 Nazi this and Nazi that. You have no idea what living under Nazis would be like. You clowns scream nazi so much it means nothing.
Redlegarty 3 months ago
LOLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!
Odessa45 3 months ago
1:32 - Skank gets a face full o' peppa!
troyez 3 months ago
"The scoops are coming! The scoops ARE COMING!"
Man, I wish.
frankenstyrene 3 months ago
Wow, this is what happens when you don't listen to the officer! Well deserved....hahahahah God bless the Police it's a hard job.
MrHotroddoc 3 months ago 2
maybe next a cop tells her to disperse...she will actually listen. this is why you don't yell at police
Fastpony12 3 months ago
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@towerclimber37 It doesn't surprise me in the least that you think this way. First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win. I join the occupiers in non-violent resistance. You join the police in "whacking fat heads". I've already won.
miraclelurker 3 months ago
You shove and tussle with an officer, you get what you get.
michaeldunnjr 3 months ago
Down with the Portland P.D. This will not be tolerated.
-Anon
matttylove2 3 months ago
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@matttylove2 Sgt. Jeff McDaniel at Portland Police Bureau's East Precinct, located at 737 SE 106th is the office implicated in this senseless pepper spray incident
nookyes 3 months ago 3
It's very hard to see what happened, lol. The camera kept swiveling away, so who knows what that lady did to get pepper sprayed.
Why would the police want to randomly pepper spray someone? They don't. They'd rather not have confrontation.
darkeh3 3 months ago 2
Portland Police Chief
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mykomykomykomyko 3 months ago
Wait till u idiots are upset enough at our govt to protest. By then it will be OK for the cops to just knock you in the fucking head.
idahopicker 3 months ago
It is funny that the long haired female version of these animals are often louder and more violent than their male counterparts.
Luka1410 3 months ago 2
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tarafoster28 3 months ago
@tarafoster28 Typical liberal arts major: too stupid to understand reality.
cooks2006 3 months ago
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tarafoster28 3 months ago
@tarafoster28 LOL! Cooks wrote that you were a liberal arts major, and your defense is that you are a "professor" (with a liberal arts degree). Pathetic idiot scum.
The best word choice a "professor" can come up with is "busted out"....LOL! What a joke you are.
antimarxism 3 months ago
@mattman154 no bro im 22 but still i h8 hippies and lazy whiny fags so yea they should pepper sprayed and owned 24/7 until they fuk off back to working at mcdonalds and dat dere subway..
klotweev 3 months ago
i hate cops but i fucking hate hippies even more so good job on the owning
klotweev 3 months ago
@klotweev Are you fucking 12? That was a human being who was assaulted by the police force we pay for as she was protesting for our future.
mattman154 3 months ago 2
@klotweev - So you weigh good vs evil by which group of people you hate less. that's nice. perhaps you would be better off paying attention to what people have in common, like a corrupt system that needs our attention. all of us, not just the dirty hippies.
shannonmorris 3 months ago
Keep up the good fight Citizens of the USA. These power tripping, law breaking police are nothing but a public nuisance.
kuztoml65 3 months ago
bext part is at 1:31 bitch got she deserved...
muskielol 3 months ago
The sidewalks were being closed to load a person arrested inside the bank. The Police clearly stated this. This woman got was was coming to her.
5150grow 3 months ago
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You don't need to close down an entire sidewalk to clear a doorway and put someone in a car. This is just a bad excuse the police are using to justify their actions against the occupy movement.
Kaaz420 3 months ago 2
@5150grow I disagree. She had a lot more coming to her but the good police of Portland held back. Damn shame.
Luka1410 3 months ago 3
Keep up the good fight Portland PD, these occupy morons are nothing but a public nuisance.
lbcjester 3 months ago
United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1876), the Supreme Court said that the "right of the people peaceably to assemble for the purpose of petitioning Congress for a redress of grievances, or for anything else connected with the powers and duties of the national government, is an attribute of national citizenship, and as such, under the protection of, and guaranteed by, the United States." The high court applied the liberty only to any federal government's encroachment.
crwstube 3 months ago
De Jonge v. Oregon, 299 U.S 353 (1937), the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the right to peaceably assemble "for lawful discussion, however unpopular the sponsorship, cannot be made a crime." The decision applied the First Amendment right of peaceful assembly to the states through the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
crwstube 3 months ago
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Edwards v. South Carolina, 372 U.S. 229 (1963), in an 8-to-1 decision, the high court overturned the breach of peace convictions of 180 black students who had peacefully marched to the state capitol to protest discrimination. The police stopped the demonstration and arrested the students because they were afraid that the 200-300 who gathered to watch the demonstration might cause a riot.
crwstube 3 months ago
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The court held the state law unconstitutionally over-broad because it penalized the exercise of free speech, peaceable assembly, and the right of petition for a redress of grievances. A disorderly crowd, or the fear of one, cannot be used to stop a peaceful demonstration or cancel the right of peaceable assembly.
crwstube 3 months ago
It's always the short guys that have such a chip on their shoulder.
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crwstube 3 months ago
Portland Police need to be commended on how they have been handling these protests. In no way can it be easy working long hours putting up with being spit on and cursed by the same people you have sworn to protect. I can only assume everyone on here leaving negative comments about the PPB have a warped sense of reality.
whatiswrongwithus 3 months ago
Thornhill v. Alabama, 310 U.S. 88 (1940), the Supreme Court held that orderly union picketing that informs the public of issues is protected by the constitutional freedom of speech of the press and the right of peaceable assembly and cannot be prosecuted under state loitering and picketing laws.
crwstube 3 months ago 2
Hague v. C.I.O., 307 U.S. 496 (1939), the high court ruled that peaceful demonstrators may not be prosecuted for "disorderly conduct." This case also secured streets and sidewalks as public forums.
crwstube 3 months ago 2
Good spray
drbackjack 3 months ago
@a1m33frank The poor people working in the bank probably didn't let him in cuz they either thought he was a protester or that they had locked up shop due to all the protesting. Also, the small businesses in the area are hurting due to all of the protests. Please find a different way to protest because this is not helping your cause or the businesses in downtown.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
I was down there at this time! Witnessing history in the making
loebj90 3 months ago
Hey Portland Police, I suggest using a water cannon loaded with several thousand gallons of pepper spray.
If that doesn't work, just call in the US Air Force to drop bombs on these COMMUNIST DEMOCRAT TERRORISTS.
RedStormCommingIn 3 months ago
Fuck hippies !
You all sound like a fucking whiny populist movement. Wahh they have money, I want their money that they earned.
Occupy a shower, then occupy a job, or you can continue to occupy your asses, with your heads.
Guns are icky
FBHO
FU AROCK
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fairman308 3 months ago 2
I know a lot of people don't know this from watching the video, but the reason the police were at this specific point the the sidewalk and was pushing was due to a Chase Bank behind them in which protestors were trying to occupy. Freedom of speech ends when you hinder another's rights. People wanted to do banking and couldn't because of protesters. People wanted to work at their businesses in the area, but were forced to close because of protesters blocking the way.
gijanearmy 3 months ago
@gijanearmy We were in the entrance area of chase bank when this was happening. A man entered and needed to use the bank. Most peaceful protesters left that area so the man could speak. He asked to be let in and we all...the protesters agreed to leave in order for him to do his banking. But they would not let him in.
a1m33frank 3 months ago
@gijanearmy yep as a matter of fact there were cops inside the bank arresting the filth there when the officers who grabbed her took her into the bank to get her cleaned up.
MrSGL21 3 months ago
Good shoot... :P
lbcjester 3 months ago
Hello, Portland Police! If it isn't clear from all of these comments, the people of Portland are disappointed with and angry at you. We are realizing more and more that you are NOT our protectors and NOT our allies, and are instead a tool of the 1%. I encourage you to make the smart decision and change sides-- join us, join the right side of history! Your conduct only shows us that we are winning. Don't push us any more-- like in Egypt, we will eventually show you what happens when we are pushed
TRBtree 3 months ago 2
@TRBtree Very powerful message, and well put! I agree completely!!!
a1m33frank 3 months ago
@TRBtree dear portland police! keep up the good work! we look forward to the day that we can walk the streets without fear of the "ows" mob. also, would love to see the tazer shockwave deployed!
J75player 3 months ago
@TRBtree Don't get too excited with your masturbatory revolution fantasy. It won't end like you think it will.
MrSGL21 3 months ago
@TRBtree Well, if that's the case, it's sad, because it means the people of Portland are idiots. But to the Portland police, the rest of the country loves you but wishes you were a little more liberal with your pepper spray and night sticks.
Luka1410 3 months ago
@TRBtree Get a job freeloader
cooks2006 3 months ago
Hello, Portland Police!
If it isn't clear from all of these comments, the people of Portland are disappointed with and angry at you. We are realizing more and more that you are NOT our protectors and NOT our allies, and are instead a tool of the 1%. I encourage you to make the smart decision and change sides-- join us, join the right side of history! Your conduct only shows us that we are winning. Don't push us any more-- like in Egypt, we will eventually show you what happens when we are pushed
TRBtree 3 months ago
What B()LLS#IT.
Point blank in her face and down her throat.
Like she was a violent threat after taking a baton to the chin for protesting on a public street.
Cops are getting paid OT to gear up and be aggressive.
Looks like SB got a prize.
Feel good SB? Took down a criminal?
crwstube 3 months ago 2
This country is polarized like never before. It scares me to think about what will happen when positive change does not occur. People will only become more upset and angry. What then? How far will the police go to "protect" the city? What you are witnessing here is a disgrace to EVERYTHING America stands for. I was at these protests. The police presence bred tension and fear. Never have I ever seen police officers so willing and eager to engage US citizens. The police need to CALM down.
armory0812 3 months ago 3
@armory0812 The police will calm down if you listen to them and go home.
Chris22090 3 months ago
@Chris22090 All protesters have the right to assemble and have freedom of speech. Regardless of whether you agree with the cause, you cannot deny each and every persons constitutional rights. The excessive police presence only agitates the situation. If people lose the right to assemble and protests injustice, then America truly has failed as a democracy.
armory0812 3 months ago
@armory0812 You are right. You do have a right, BUT freedom of speech does not mean you can break the law. ? Police are only there to keep order. If you really dont want them to be there then its best to go home. You already lost this game - Had lost it ever since you tore up parks, threw that firework at police and blocking traffic,
Chris22090 3 months ago
@armory0812 Continued....
Here is a tip. How about a PEACEFULL protest. If the cops are there so what? They would be there to make sure it remains peacefull.
If I walked up to you and punched you ands said "oh its freedom of speech, you would file charges right
Chris22090 3 months ago
@Chris22090 You are not understanding what is really happening down there. There are a few out of thousands who provoke police. There was 1 person who through a firework. I am not saying police shouldn't be present at all, I am merely suggesting that they scale down there aggressive behavior and shows of force. There is no need for riot gear. The majority of us have been peaceful AND followed the laws. Whether we can this civil disobedience or not, I do not think it is fair to lump the entire ..
armory0812 3 months ago
@armory0812 Doesn't look like it here. Now You may be right but the video and photos donn't lie
Chris22090 3 months ago
@Chris22090 continued...
Crowd into one giant stereotype. I agree that people need to act in accordance with the law, and if they decided to push the limits, then they risk the consequences. BUT. The consequences we have seen over these past few days are far more intense than they need be. I understand the police have a job to do, but to what end? Lastly, I would argue that we haven't "lost this game." If anything, people are waking up and becoming more aware of the issues at hand. THAT is a win
armory0812 3 months ago
@armory0812 @armory0812 They are waking up because thats all we see on the news. We see it when we need to get somewhere in Portland and you are blocking traffic. Many people use these roads and bridges to get to work and you are so selfish that you block their way.
but hey, never mind that. After all you protest at a bank and yet you take money from them
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Chris22090 3 months ago
@Chris22090 Almost everyone I spoke to removed their money from big banks like Chase and put it in local credit unions. It is unfortunate that while demonstrating we affected transportation. That is very insignificant though. Look at the big picture, read and research and stop getting all your information from the forth branch of the government...FOX News...etc!!!!!!
a1m33frank 3 months ago 2
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TRBtree 3 months ago
Mayor Sam is a coward
notsobadyathink 3 months ago 2
Portland police you are a disgrace to this country....PERIOD! I do not live in Portland but I do live in Oregon...I have not joined the occupy protest as of yet, I am now thinking about it though....After all the POLICE VIOLENCE I have SEEN in the last few weeks, I WILL NEVER TRUST A POLICE OFFICER AGAIN!! In my opinion U R NOT part of the 99% U have SOLD OUT and quite cheaply too. This has nothing to do with ur job this is a MORAL ISSUE...where is ur conscience...PSYCHOPATH? SOLIDARITY OCCUPY
KIMLAPHAM 3 months ago 3
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Keep this comment in mind next time you are a victim of a crime. Cops put their lives on the line everyday to protect people such as yourself and rather cheaply according to your comment. Use a little more logic in your future comments.
whatiswrongwithus 3 months ago
@whatiswrongwithus No worries the Constitution also gives me the 2nd Amendment right to PROTECT MYSELF and I am NOT afraid to exercise that one either.....;))
KIMLAPHAM 3 months ago
@KIMLAPHAM
Hey more power to ya!
whatiswrongwithus 3 months ago
I am fully on the side of Portland Police. I like to think my tax dollars paid for the pepper spray that went into Elizabeth's face. Occupy PDX, you have to obey the law. You disobey, you pay....the Portland Police and the county with your tickets.
pdxattak 3 months ago
ooops. Who put the tree here?
gannong1 3 months ago
Remember, Anyone can own a Taser, besides Police, so can WE!!!....If anyone is in Scottsdale, AZ, tell those guys (@Taser) to ship some up here for the Protesters!
Ha...
gannong1 3 months ago
Glad to see they got the USA Today stand secure! What a joke.
gannong1 3 months ago 2
Officers B11 hits SHOVES LIKE A WOMAN. Officer B9 probably is a woman and from what I can see, instigated or provoked the victim, which her consequences resulted her to be pepper sprayed? That small person (B9) totally struck her first without provocation. Police in general, have Power Trip issues.
These officers suck!
The tax payers pay their salaries. Lets outsource their jobs too, then they will join us!!
gannong1 3 months ago 2
The police in this country really have lost touch with reality if they think this video helps their case. How does it feel to be beating on your own people on behalf of the 1% who care nothing for you? SHAME ON YOU!
miraclelurker 3 months ago 3
It should not be illegal to be in the street. It's a natural place to be. For 5,000 years of cities people were always in the street. It's just for the last 80 years, or so, that's it's become a dangerous place for people to be. Equality is streets for everyone
jbibm81 3 months ago 2
This video explicitly reveals cops pepper-spraying at point blank peaceful protesters who are ON the sidewalk, for... ignoring their order to get on to the sidewalk? Nope, no reason. The only order broadcast was to get onto the sidewalk, not to disperse. These clearly-not-rioting protesters were in fact abiding your directions, and you attacked them for it. Keep it coming, PPD, you're the best recruitment tool we've got.
sosweetandsocold 3 months ago 3
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I love it! Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. This hippie should thank the police for giving her a compelling reason to take a shower.
ip503 3 months ago
@ip503 Portland police ... this is the mindset of those who agree with you. How does THAT feel?
miraclelurker 3 months ago 2
Does Mike Reese think we don't clearly see the girl standing on the sidewalk and screaming, "We are on the sidewalk?" just before the 1 minute mark?
bluecollarbrains 3 months ago 5
Can anyone figure out which officer assaulted her? We should find out whether he was from Portland Police Bureau or what. I hope Ms. Nichols contacts the Independent Police Review Board, and knows that Portland's City Charter Review Commission would like to hear about the need to make IPRB truly independent so that police misconduct becomes more obvious.
rdhardesty 3 months ago 4
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Jfricker 3 months ago
@rdhardesty The officer with the helmet designation SB appears to be the one who sprayed Ms. Nichols.
Autumnalmonk 3 months ago
This video clearly shows that as demonstrators were being ordered to "vacate the street or be subject to arrest," they were being pushed into the street. Mike Reese thinks he's going to be our next mayor treating people like this? Of course, he will have the money to buy the election, since we no longer have publicly-financed elections. Even if he can buy it, does he think we won't occupy EVERYWHERE HE GOES???
bluecollarbrains 3 months ago 3
Other then the journalists taking photos, the police, and people crossing the road, I'm not seeing people in the streets. I see people on the sidewalks with officers trying to ride their horses down the sidewalk as well.
xJuelietx 3 months ago 5
How many portland cops in riot gear does it take to pepperspray one wisp of a girl who was already on the sidewalk?
Mellzah 3 months ago 4
A picture paints a thousand words. This video proves the cops were using excessive force and were in the wrong. Can cops get any more stupid?
indigolily1 3 months ago 2
@indigolily
Please, this was not excessive force....bullets and beatdowns with batons would be considered excessive...this was crowd control.
whatiswrongwithus 3 months ago
People are on the sidewalk?
knectedmedia 3 months ago
Wow. You people should hire better PR people. This video shows exactly the opposite of what you have been claiming. Police are shoving people off the streets into the max line, and then they pepper spray them for not being on the sidewalk. Where is the police video of the pepper spray? Please release all the videos which are the property of the people of Portland.
eyoung1967 3 months ago 6
So you tell them to stay on the sidewalks, they stay on the sidewalks, well shoot, now how are you gonna get your jollies, oh I know, push em into the street, make sure to get that spray ready, I'm gonna use it on someone darnit!
She was clearly on the sidewalk, where they were told to be, you police were pushing the crown who was on the sidewalk, the police were causing this issue, not the protesters.
flyingwolf79 3 months ago 8